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Boxing Lopez/Paul/Stevenson + UFC 303 Pereira vs Prochazka ft. UFC & Combat Sports Insider Clubber D the Combat G (BALL & BUDS Combat Sports Special)
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#BALLandBUDS UFC #UFC & Combat Sports Insider Clubber D the Combat G + The Sports Professor on UFC 303 #UFC303 Alex Pereira vs Jiri Prochazka
& Boxing #boxing (Teofimo Lopez, Shakur Stevenson, Jake Paul, Mike Tyson & MORE)
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Introduction and Technical Challenges
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Peace with the Americans! It's that world heavyweight float. Championship belt wrapped around my waist. Yo, I got that ripped flam figure float. Slam you on the pavement, that's why they call me street pro. Create need on beat flow. Like Jordan, after the second time, he's three peated folks. Get ready, set, let's go. Fight toe to toe, release the flow created by this mic pro. Life camera, get low. action back, back to back, in fact this monster will grow y'all better let him know man with the master plan and you have no need to know heart like when it cold busty fools anything left to kill and whack rappers is a crime I stay trying to get mine
00:00:45
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Stackin' value, packin' venues, winnin' overtime Ain't no find timeline Open your eyes, lookin' for the best, and this is what you find Game is only for the bold You can't prepare, now get ready for the show Introducing, from parts unknown, your UFC and combat sports insider, Clubber D, the combat GM, the sports professor!
00:01:15
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Yo, yo, yo, what up? That sounded awful. That music sounded like the music stopped. It was just a beat going really kind of slow and choppy. You okay over there when you're in there, buddy? I have no clue why. And now you're frozen. Oh, he's back. What's up, peoples? We're here. I have no, clue I have no clue what it looked fine on my end. It was playing fine over here, so I have no clue why. Uh, I have to check the YouTube and see, uh, if that came out correct on the YouTube, but it looked fine on Instagram too, while I was watching it. So I'm not sure why that came out on your end deck. Can you hear me now though? Oh, you're fine. You miss fading. Hey people, we're here balling buds. We are here minus some technical difficulties. If you can hear or say something, hopefully you can hear me because I'm, yeah, i on testing Mike one two testing Mike one two. Well, we're D and your man, and Omar over here. We're making it happen today. How y'all doing? You can't answer, but I'm gonna say it anyways. What happened?
00:02:13
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I'm making it happen. Can you hear me? That's awesome. That's what I'm talking about. Can you hear me or no? You sound like you're down a hill. We can hear you but you're down a hill or something. This is getting ridiculous. I am like right on my microphone. All right, people. Well, while he's fixing that, I'm going to go ahead and start. We're going to go over UOC 303. We're going to talk about some boxing and mix a little ah ah personal news. We're going to mix a little um what I had to drink today and eat today. And we're going to mix a little people who have foot fetishes. Now I'm just joking, but we're going to talk about UFC today while Omar
00:02:50
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Fixes what's going on. I'm mercy Maria good. I'm glad you can hear me. Omar's uh He's uh fixing uh his side of things. Uh, he's gonna Pop back on, I told him a long time ago, you cannot buy a Slurpee and a laptop in the same place um because you know you get the quality that you pay for. But we're rocking and rolling, we're gonna make it work today. And ah you know we got a big UFC card this weekend. It was supposed to be Michael Chandler and first Conor McGregor, but unfortunately, they got canceled about two and a half, three weeks ago because Conor McGregor broke his
UFC 303 Main Card Analysis
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toe. And he's been out the cage for, I wanna say what?
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Since he broke his leg, it's Dustin Poirier, which was a couple of years ago. So, you know, I obviously didn't think he was going to make this fight because, you know, he's, he looks a little juiced up. He's taken out Ryan Garcia of medicine. So he was, he's been looking pretty big for this fight, but um you know, it got canceled and we got a hell of a hell of a main event rematch with Alex Poirier going against Yoruba Hotchich. Hope I didn't butcher his name because his name is hard to say, but anyways, we got that main event. We also got a Brian T City Ortega going against ah Diego Lopez and that's gonna be a that's a barn burner. That might be a passing torch type fight. It's crazy to say that passing towards but ah Brian Ortega, it's like he's been fighting forever and he's 33 years old. But you know, he fights so sporadically but you got that's good. That's gonna be a good fight also. And then you got the next, the next wannabe, wannabe, wannabe Conor McGregor. You got Ian Gary going against Michael Finn and Page. Now that,
00:04:19
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That fight's interesting because you got Michael Vinton Page with his second fight in the UFC. um And, you know, he's known for his bellator fights and he fought ah Michael Perry and, ah and, and, uh, bare knuckle fighting. So, uh, you know, that's, that's gonna be very interesting because Michael Vinton Page likes to dance around and look goofy and look silly. um Besides that knockout by vi ah ah Diego Lima, ah Douglas Lima, you know what I'm saying? he's He's had a pretty decent career, but you know, he fought in Bellator with a bunch of people that, you know, um work at U-Haul. So it's hard to kind of gauge how good he is because, you know, if you don't fight UFC, you don't fight it best, apparently. And MMA, ma that's always a story. Oh, you're back.
00:04:55
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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. and you you There we go. There we go. Hey, yo, yo, yo. What is up, friends? I apologize for those technical difficulties. Not sure what happened. I had everything set up. Clubber D can attest he came into the waiting room, yeah into the green room when i was when I was testing out all the music and everything. and He told me that my volume started messing up, so I'm not sure what happened. Everything was fine before, so I'm going to have to, again, not buy my laptops at the 7-Eleven. So we'll make sure that we go get maybe a new one of those as well. um I am actually ah going to probably be switching locations.
00:05:36
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yeah And going to a new internet location for future programs for hopefully better internet, so we'll see ah that being said I saw you uh Introducing what we're going to talk about today a little UFC 303 a little bit of a boxing news fights will also have in Tony the savant joining us in a little bit to debate his boxing pound for pound list with Clubber D. And as well, we will have our always funny fan mailbag. That being said, shout out to my mama. She wanted us to give her and my grandmother a shout out since they are live in Gagua, Puerto Rico, watching us. Hello to my grandmother and my mother. We love you. weapon by weapon ah I'll see you guys at the chair to four points. Okay. I'll be over there on Tuesday nights salsa dancing and playing blackjack.
00:06:31
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It's a fun place. Y'all should go. Just saying.
00:06:36
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eight e up what but yeah I like that. I think that sounds like a good idea. All right. Well, let's get C303. So let's kick this bad boy off. First of all, as I heard you mentioning, ah right, this was originally slated to be Conor McGregor's huge, huge return to fight Michael Chandler. Obviously, over the weeks when the press conferences were getting ah delayed and they had you know all these people hanging on the edge trying to figure out, was this actually going to happen? was it what If it wasn't, Dana White is still taking making people's money. I'm seeing people's fans complaining online because he still took their money even though he knew it was going to be canceled.
Undercard Fights and Fighter Insights
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Conor McGregor turns
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Zao had an injured toe of broke action until the foreseeable future. ah So as you mentioned, though, right, since he was injured, since he won't be in this card anymore, which is very disappointing to all UFC and MMA fans in general ah who was wanting to see him come along, we now have that replacement between Alex Pereira and Jerry Prochaska as we like to call him. ah So that'll be the main event there. No,
00:07:59
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but no no, no. I was going to say that's going to be the new main event. that we are seeing headlining 303. You mentioned the other ones as well. That would be um that the fights that we would see on this card. So let's go ahead and we'll go with the ah the other cards first. We'll start with some of the per but one of the preliminary fights excuse me that I know that you wanted to talk about on this program before we give your club banger for the main event. And so that is the actual undercard fight of the night that you have. to watch between Cub Swanson versus Andre Feely. So can you give us your thoughts on that fight?
00:08:38
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Yeah, cups Watson. He's ah he's one of those ah holdovers that came over from a W.E.C. would like with your right favorite Josie Aldo, Dominic Cruz. This guy is he's been in the game for so long and all his fights are are usually exciting. And he's fighting ah Andre Pozzo named touchy feely. I think that's probably go be the fight tonight. That's we're born burner. OK, these guys are I think we're a one hundred thirty five pounds, something like that. That's that's the fight I saw in um in the main undercard. You know what?
00:09:05
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That's what i i just what I want people to look at. Okay. I just you need to check that fight out. Um, I would say not a club banger, but I actually cups Watson winning this fight. Um, actually, you know what? Reverse club banger. I'm gonna say, uh, Felix pregnant win this fight. Cause, uh, first club, lower reverse club thing I had i to switch it up a little bit. I'm looking at my notes and I was like, yeah. I'm gonna feel it. He looked pretty good last night. So I'm gonna feel you on that one. Watch watch me be wrong, Bill. That don't count for more on my record, but well we'll make it work, okay? We'll make it work today.
00:09:39
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Yes, sir. We will make it work. All right. And then let's keep that moving on. The next fight that I know you wanted to talk about is who you just mentioned, right? A guy that some say is, ah you know, a little bit bit a little bit Conor McGregor. um This is going to be total showmanship. I mean, I don't even know if the ring is big enough to hold all the yeah cockiness and showboatness that will happen in this fight between Michael Venom Page and Ian. uh gary so sir what are your thoughts on what should be a very fun fight to watch well yeah gary's one of one of the uh fighters kind of like uh paddy pimpleton that they're
00:10:20
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from the from From across the pond, they're trying to build up to be megastars similar to Connor, Connor was or is. Ian Gary, his nickname's The Future, so and he's from Ireland. So there you go ah also with that with that whole Connor connection. He's 14 and 0, 7 KOs. He's fought in decent opposition in the UFC. He's fought in Jeff Neal, which it was a split decision win, but it could have gone Jeff's way for some people. um I kind of had Ian Gary win him, but I could see if Jeff Neal winning in that fight. He's fought Neil Magny who's a he was the ah basically Kevin Holland s-type fighter, you know He's a gatekeeper, but he's a very good gatekeeper, you know Kevin Holland said he's not a gatekeeper and he also fought to ah a Person who fought just past weekend a D rod Daniel Rodriguez and he knocked him out. So Ian Gary He's a exciting fighter, but there's a lot of backstory where he got kicked out of a Leon Edwards is a fight team um He I think he married or or was dating and one of his old trainers wives or something like or ex-wives This is a lot of people don't like whoa Yeah, it's very cocky. He's very very brash as as as cool people like to say but you know, he's he's full of himself but he can fight so I'm um'm I'm a fan of that he's fighting Michael Page. I mean in Gary's 26 you got Michael Page who's what? um
00:11:32
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Michael Page is 37 years old. So he's old. He's older. He's a little long in the tooth now. He's long in the tooth and he's fought Bellator for so long. But he can still fight though. He can still fight though, man. He can still move. He can go because his style. He does that little weird sideways karate style. So, yes. I don't know if that would happen against the Wonder Boy Thompson. But you know, I would say this. Well, Michael Page, you know, he's famous for his his knee to head hit with Cyborg, the male Cyborg's husband. When he cracked his skull, cave that in.
00:12:03
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So, you know, he's, he's exciting fighter. So this fight will be good. I think this, this is one of the tune in with tune into also, but, um, yeah, that's, that's, that's, they're going to kick the card off with that fight.
Co-Main Event Analysis: Ortega vs. Lopez
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And the fact that they're doing that is, is, is ridiculous. So hats off to the UFC or hair lines off to them. Yeah. You know, a parallel hair.
00:12:24
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Um, you know, for a card that was, uh, I mean, I don't want to say sabotaged, but it was, we had some questions as to whether this card was really going to happen. And so for us to not only, not only are, um, suspicions be correct about the fight being canceled or the fight being delayed and Conor McGregor not being ready, uh, Maybe not the fight that everybody was expecting to see so soon, but a great fight nonetheless is what we shall see in this second edition of, as we mentioned, AP. We both love AP a lot, right? And we also got him going against Yuri Pachaska, who also previously fought in Raisin in Japan.
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so uh has some international experience there uh so this is for the light heavyweight championship here um and again even though it wasn't exact what and i'll say i was gonna do that first before that but we can jump to main event Oh, I'm sorry. Did I skip the coma? I sure did well did. I apologize. No, I sure did. I skipped my bad. I skipped the one you want to talk about the most. Brian Ortega versus Diego Lopez, who you mentioned earlier. My apologies. Everybody i got a little off track. I got too excited. for the 303 main event. So the co-main Brian Ortega, yo, you know, even though he has only competed five times since 2018, you know, we both love to see him fight. And the way that he fought his first two defeats came in those UFC title challenges against Max Holloway and Volkanowski, the great. um So now he's coming back to City. As you mentioned, he's going to be meeting Lopez, a prospect who has now won five out of his last six.
00:14:19
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Yeah, I said he's good. Can you hear me muted himself? But anyways, Brian never tell you he's come back. He's he's two and three in his last five fights. Um, I feel like, you know, he he looked great fighting, um, uh, uh, uh, Yuri Rodriguez in his last fight in Mexico. He looks good. It was a rematch because he heard his elbow in the prior fight, which was, uh,
00:14:43
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Oh man flows flows going in but uh, he lived a good ah fighting in mexico his last fight Uh when he when he will rebashed. Uh, y'all here rodriguez, but he's fighting a killer diego lopez is a killer This kid is this kid is bad. Okay. I mean as I mentioned earlier brown rotator being 33 years old and uh Diego lopez is 29 24 and six, okay and in his last what five fights he's and and he's five he's four and one of his last five fights with uh, three knockouts, one TKO, and one submission, and and one one loss by decision. So, you know, this this guy's bad. we laugh We last saw him on UFC 300. I believe I called that fight ah when we were down in Nashville that he was going to beat, um um I forgot that the the young man he fought, but, you know, ah Diego Lopez, see this kid's a killer, man. He's good, man. Out of his 24 wins, you know, 10 of them by KO and 12 by submission, so he's well-rounded. You don't see that a lot in MMA now. You use see somebody that's either a puncher or
00:15:41
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a puncher or a, now your dad's on there, a puncher or a ah somebody who's a submission practitioner. So, you know, this fight is, ah ah you know, it's what it's one of the fights, that's it's a com is's good co-main event. Now, as far as who I got winning, you know, you go and get it ready. if that Let's see if that's not muted, Omar. Let's go, let's hear it. Can we get the club banger? If you can hear me. Yeah, I got you. Can you hear me? Sorry, people. Can you hear me? You can't hear me? Food line ah club love bang ah club you know we ba line love technology over here. But anyways, I got Diego Lopez winning his fight. Got Diego Lopez winning his fight. um um And I don't know if I even called the last one, Ian Gary or or Michael Page, but I'm gonna go with ah Ian Gary beating Michael Page in the in that fight before. Are you back? Oh, sure, I keep on going. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Okay, so.
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I don't know what
Headliner Fight Analysis: Pereira vs. Prochazka
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happened. All right. I was switched. I'm going to go straight to the main event. Um, so we got to ask for era going against a year. I'm not going to keep butchering his last thing. Yes. He was a rising champion and yes, he was the ex UFC champion. Okay. And he's, um, global catch Sarah who was, uh, can you hear me? I can hear you all. ah Well, it's weird. I can't hear him. um He beats a global tech share who was who was ah the former champion and and global tech share is Alex for ever is a Training partner so All right, I'm trying to talk y'all guys are having a conversation what's going on over here you guys are good flow and Omar we're All right, I'm saying they can hear me I'm gonna keep going Jesus Christ ah so
00:17:26
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He beat global text error who was asked prayers for my partner and I would say. I would say that since then he had a little ah grudge against him. He stared him down after one after their beat his training partner. Alex prayer moved up after his loss to Israel. Alessania he moved up to fight. um to fight ah ah to fight Yuri. And that fight, you know, he beat him. He knocked about in the second round. But that was after that was after a a long layoff by Yuri Prohatshka. When he when he beat a glove to Sarah, he was out of the cage for over a year. So he fought him with his first fight coming back over soldiers shoulder surgery. And he knocked about in the second round. But Yuri, this man is is 30 and four with with 26 kills. This guy can fight. OK, he's he's not a slouch.
00:18:12
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um I'm not happy about this quick turnaround for this fight since they're fighting so soon. um And it's got announced announced out of nowhere. I don't know if Dana White already knew that Connor wasn't a go, and he said, okay okay, guys, go ahead, see if you can get trained up and make weight. Or were they already a backup to this event, um because they were already scheduled for a prior event. So I'm kind of weary on how this is going, but I feel this is gonna be a different fight than the first go around. We all know about Alex Boyer's career. you know The man is, he's a world renowned kickboxer. okay He's only had 12 MMA fights and he's 10 and two, but he's a two division world champion. ok We all know what he can do. okay He has what? Eight, nine knockouts out of his 10 fights. um He lost his first fight. He lost his first fight by submission. He lost his second, another fight by Izzy by knocked out. everybody else see Everyone else he's fought and he's either knocked him out or TK owed him.
00:19:08
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besides one. So and that w and I'm gonna get to that because if you re can take him down and wrestle him, because Alex Pereira is trash on the ground. He can't wrestle to save his life. If Yuri can do that, then he has a good chance of beating him, okay? But that's if Yuri can do that, because Alex Pereira's a big dude, okay? Yuri's not not a small guy himself, but Alex Pereira's like 6'4", 6'5", and very long. So pause, that sounds weird. But, ah you know, he's reckless. re i can eat it wow yourself. Yuri's gonna have to get in close with him. to To take him down and that's if he can do that. So the first fight went a certain way But as you're coming up a long layoff this time you're inside one fight and I was back in April Against rocket roaches which who's a good fighter out of Serbia and he knocked about in the second round. He's back to his his ah He's back to his ways, you know, and that's 17-month layoff in between him winning a belt and fighting Alex You know that that's that could that could play in a factor why he lost that fight, you know, so With this one whoo
00:20:10
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I don't want to go against the grain, but I'm going to say, as Pereira, we'll be losing by fourth round decision. I'm saying right now, Yuri's going to win fourth round. you're like You're like a mime, okay? like ah like a Like a mime. You can't hear you, but we can just see you. Fourth round decision. i'm um I'm going with that one. Yuri is going to win. He's going to win. All right? So you cannot hear me you can hear me at all. You cannot hear me. No, I can't. I can't hear you. They can hear me. Everybody else can hear me. I don't know what's going on. If you can hear Omar, put in the chat, you can hear him. They say they can hear me. Now I can hear you. You can hear me now. Yeah, I can hear you now. I didn't do anything. I've just been sitting here.
00:20:59
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that's bad. What? Good. Okay. You can hear me. Alright. Thank oh yeah god. Geez. Okay. You're good. Well, good job there anyways. You're doing well. I mean, it's not like all you needed me to do is prompt you anyways. Um so, you did good there. I appreciate that. So, wow. you ah Wow. AP loss. You're you're going against our boy in the fourth round too. I mean, you're usually, if he's going to take somebody out, he's usually going to take him out early or at least try to and that's what got him caught last time against AP. So, you're thinking he's going to last till the Mm. Okay. All right. I think the game plan, the game plan is going to be to wrestle him. Take him to, he's not good. Well, Yampa Hobart fought him was first fight at two or five. Yawn beat him, but Yawn was wrestling
Boxing Matches Overview
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him and that was a split decision. It could have gone Yawn's way, but I will say, I will say if you're a taste that takes that a blueprint and drag some to those later rounds, it could, you can, you can submit them.
00:21:56
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Word, word, word. Well, There you all go. Put that, go to your Fandul, go to your Draft Kings, whatever your platform is and make sure you put in. Yuri Prohatshka with a fourth round victory. Now I didn't hear you. I think I missed this. Did you say KO? Um, or submissions, I think he says sub, but you know, either way, a little sub actually waffle. I could waffle. Yeah. A little subway. Wow. Sub action sounded very, uh, I saw, I saw, I saw a post about the similar wrestler who passed. They honored him on the UOC event this past Saturday. They, uh, they put his thing up there and talked about him. So the UOC did acknowledge him, uh, cause he passed last week.
00:22:37
Speaker
Yeah, he passed last week before the ah the ah Whitaker fight um in ah Saudi Arabia. They they honored him that last last Saturday. so And yeah, that's weird because it it said yeah it said like everybody else said that they could hear me. So I don't know why. yeah or why do we recommend Yeah, I don't even know. Whatever. Anyways, all right. What do we got? Don't be a hater. I don't i don't know know what's happening right now. Constructive. Oh, thank you, Dad. Oh, he's welcome to constructive feedback. That being said, cool let us move it on and get your boxing club bangers before we bring in our boy, Tony Lee Sivan, who will be in shortly to debate his piece for a pound for pound list. Excuse me. I love you, but God. where that list
00:23:25
Speaker
when the The list was a list was a little little suspect when I saw it. So we'll go bring him in in just a second. But for now, let's talk about a few of the biggest boxing matches coming up this month of July. What I'm going to do is I'm going to list out all these fights because I'm not sure that you actually want to talk about all of them um and that you give me the club bangers for which ones you want. So starting June 29th, we have Tio Fimo Lopez, and excuse me, 21. ah
00:23:57
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We're good. Okay. If you will, Lopez, okay. If you will, Lopez 20 and one will be going up against, and as you quoted in your, in your email to me about the lineup, a nobody Steve claggett. A 38 seven and two for two female Lopez's B WBO junior welterweight title. The same night we have. Juan Francisco Estrada with a 44 and three record going up against a huge, huge prospect. Some even ranked them in their pound for pound list.
00:24:31
Speaker
Well, yeah, that's i said as I said, some people some people rank them in their pound for pound top 10. So obviously not. one But he's 19. He's 19 to know. Jesse Bam Rodriguez. He's actually going to be fighting for, though, the WBC junior bench, kind who is actually owned right now by Juan Francisco Estrada. And then finally, July 6th, we have Shakur Stevenson going up against Artem, and I hope not to butcher this, her to you, Jan, to you, Jan, for the WBC junior lines like
00:25:03
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but are peter chart ah yeah I didn't say that. ah Send your complaints to Clubber D. Shakur Stevenson has a 21 and 0 record. The other artichoke is 12 and 1. I call him an artichoke. WBC lightweight title. Alright, so there's the three next main fights that are coming up. Start wherever you would like and I'll I'll I'll control from it. Well, I'll start with the the one that's next week, uh, which of course, Steve's the card. You also got Oh, Shaki Foster defending his WBC belt. And he was on my not um yeah last year. Oh, he's, he's on that card. And also Kishan Davis. Shout out to the seven five seven represent Virginia. He's on that card as well. So that's not a bad card that that's, at that good that's usually it's having. And Tia female Lopez, ah Mike brought this up on Tony Savant channel. When we got on the other day, they're not, it's on, these are fights on ESPN. They're not even promoting us. Okay. You, but.
00:25:55
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Steven, uh, Steven, uh, TFP on Lopez. You got him fighting, um, uh, Johnny, like, I don't know who, I don't know. Yeah, I know. Right. I don't know who this guy, like, who are you fighting TFP more? Like he's been fighting these guys and they've been close fights, which is crazy. But, um, you know, I got a TFP was going to win. He's going to. Yeah, I didn't think I didn't know i think we needed a club bigger on that one. That's the biggest obvious um BAM. BAM's not a prospect. BAM's in my top 10 pound for pound list and a band keeps it up once. Let's go. Once it becomes undisputed, BAM Rodriguez is going to probably fight the monster the if he keeps moving up. He's at 112 pounds, I believe. I used to weigh that back back last week, but I had diarrhea. But anyways, in a way, BAM, let's go.
00:26:39
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Bam already has two belts. Okay. So he's going, he's trying to get undisputed in that division. And once he does that, he's going to move up and then hopefully he'll fight the monster soon. But Bam Rodriguez, he's in my top 10. Like if you guys want to, want to fire to watch, get the zone, ask your cousin for, for, uh, for his, his log on, you know what I'm saying? Or ask somebody or just pay for it. Okay. Or just watch Bam Rodriguez fight on Saturday. He's hell of a good fighter out of Phoenix, Arizona. You know what I'm saying? Omar stopped doing a punch, which is pretty funny. Oh, he's back now. ah who's the other fight we had uh oh yeah i got bam the core stevenshin yeah i figured yeah bam so it was funny but that's your core fight now he was gonna fight frank martin back in the day but frank martin chose not to fight him and waited wait a little while to fight tank
00:27:24
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The person Shakur's fighting is the person that Frank Martin fought last, who a lot of people like myself thought he beat Frank Martin. Frank Martin looked like trash before the tank fight, and it was against this person. And this person got his first loss after they gave it to Frank Martin, but he's not a slouch. He's not a slouch, but I got Shakur's teams to win it. Shakur didn't look good his last fight because of a shoulder injury or whatever he was dealing with, but all he was you just hitting and running. But um this fight, I think Shakur should showcase um his skills and show everybody why he's a two division unified world champion and why my master plan and boxing is going to be tank is going to fight Lomo and are saying that's going to be for the linear and ring magazine belt, which is it should be for 135.
00:28:09
Speaker
Once your court gets through with this fight, he's going to fight Lomo's countryman who beat Navarate. That's the need for both the belts. And then the winner of those two fights fight each other next year around this time for undisputed at 135. That's my master plan. If it doesn't happen, I'm going to talk to somebody. I'm going to make it happen. Okay. That's, that's, that's what boxing needs. especially for those lighterweights and all you tank stands, I mean fans, y'all want that to happen because now at age, he'll be 30 in a couple of months. Now he thinks belts matter. So now he wants to fight the best. So there you go.
00:28:42
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Well, thank you for all of that. Excellent analysis. Wasn't even and a need for any club banger sounds because of the fact that we all knew where you were going in all three of those fights. ah But just for ah dexterity purposes, I just
Fan Engagement and Technical Issues
00:28:58
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want to do it one time. Love bangers club. There we go. Just trying to do it just for just for keep us on track a little bit. um So that being said, thank you for all that. and Yeah, as you mentioned, our boy Oshaki Foster will be fighting and he's no slouch here. Robson can say so from Brazil. um So that should be a really good fight.
00:29:20
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Robson fought, I think he's he's fought Shakur. He's fought a couple other lightweights. He's not a, he's a good fighter. He's a really good fighter. Oshaki's at 130. So I wonder if he's gonna move the 135 up there where Shakur is, who knows? But Oshaki Foster, man, that guy that's won the fights of the year I saw last year, probably wouldn't have better fights after that quite some time. And that was my next question for you is when Shakur but keeps his belt, um ah what are plans for him next? What would you do next if you were him? Oh, like I said, he needs to fight Dennis Varetic.
00:29:54
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think I said his name right. The guy who just beat Navarazzi for the WBO, because he has a WBC, Tank has a WBA, Lomo has the IVF. So, four people, four belts. He's an end fighter. Got to get together. There we go. You know what I'm saying? And both of them, this is your court. This is a very significant fight for his court. This is his last fight on top rank. So, is he going to stay with ESPN or is he going to take money and go somewhere else? He told Tank he wants to fight him, but he doesn't want to make a deal with PBC and fight him. a five fight deal and him fighting him on the fifth fight. You know, he wants to fight him now. So Mayweather's offered his olive branch to Shakur saying, Hey, you know, I like what you do inside with me. Um, cause he hates tank right now. So he wants anybody to be tank. And also, um, Eddie Hearn from Matt's room, the zone, he's recently been i saying, Oh yeah, it's a gorgeous, uh, he's just amazing fight. Oh, that's my English accent right there. Well, wow. That's it. Right. Shout out to the bear. I see you out there.
00:30:54
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paddington parrington Do you know where he came from? Do you know where he came from? Come on. Tell me you remember. Please remember. Please remember where he came from. The cartoon. No, wait. No, remember Peru. Peru? Yeah. He upgraded from Peru to England. Like that's an actual origin story. Oh, like i like you all the Jamaicans over there and stuff. Okay. i lin lewis Okay. Because you remember when we used to do the podcast and you would do USA Paddington. You remember I would put in that little song. I got the ah the theme song and I put it in. It would be like Paddington. He came from Peru. It was like what? It was a whole backstory. It's amazing. I thought you remembered that, but I don't know why. No, I don't. I don't know how you got from Peru to London, but whatever.
00:31:44
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Yeah, I don't either, but that's doesn't neither here nor there. It was a theme song and it was like, okay. Okay. You know what? I'm not even go there to be with me and you P A D D I G T O N padding. All right. Okay. We just, that's our inside joke. Y'all we've been having that inside joke for a long time now. So, uh, anyways, uh, if there was a comment, I didn't see it yet. So give me one moment. Um, I did, I do not see. franklin's magic fill
00:32:15
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Alright, so we got but thank you to everybody on the live stream right now. I see a bunch of y'all coming in and that is the right time to be coming in because we are talking boxing right now. We are going to welcome in here shortly. Tony the Savant and him and Clubber D are going to debate Tony's pound for pound list. So we'll bring him in in just a few minutes whenever he gets to the waiting room. I just sent him the link so he should be on shortly. That being said, we are going to get into a little bit of the fan mailbag before he gets here.
00:32:46
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so First fan mailbag question. And this comes from Kaizen. And this is from Tokyo, Japan. Awesome. Thank you. Oh, by the way, oh, I forgot to tell you, I went back and found that email. Did you remember the other place that we're huge in, aside from China, was Belgium. Belgium? We were big in Belgium. We were ranked in the top 50 in Belgium. Let me get a waffle. Give me one. yeah
00:33:18
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That's what I'm saying. And so in in Belgium, they speak three languages. They speak ah French, German, and Dutch. Now, you know, I was born in Germany, so I got a little bit of connection there. But yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. And on the basis of American soil, get out of here. You know what? You don't have to say all that. It's been a fun fact. you say that good all cut take it out here Now, americans I will say, Uh, I will say, uh, because we rank so highly in China and we've been ranking week after week after week after I have to show off some of my Mandarin skills as I used to practice Mandarin. Uh, so Ni hao wo shi min Omar. That is, hello, my name is Omar in Mandarin. So thank you. And shout out to all our Chinese fans out there. Uh, we appreciate y'all and everybody subscribe at ball and buds B A L L A N D B U D S.
00:34:15
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Subscribe there, catch all the new videos which were from Clubber D and myself. Clubber D has a new short out on Diarte Wilder, four hundred view over 400 views on YouTube, over 200 on TikTok. So go check him out. By the way, go and subscribe to his TikTok account, clubber.d on TikTok. I'm going to start dancing pretty soon. I'm going to start doing those little staged pranks. I'm doing all that stuff. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing all that. Just check me out on there pretty soon. I might. Because you're not stripped back in the day. My stage name was Stretch Mark. But that's another story. Stretch Mark. We're going to go back to what we used to talk about.
00:34:53
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that stretch mark all right so anyways from Kaizen in Tokyo, Japan, he asked, Usyk was recently declared to be stripped of, or he was going to forfeit, it doesn't matter, same thing, he was going to be stripped of his IBF title, which will now be fought for between Anthony Joshua and ah Daniel Dubois. So what are your thoughts on the belt being taken from Usyk and what are your preliminary thoughts on the fight between Joshua and Dubois? Thank you for your question. Well I mean I mentioned this our last, i was it our last one? Because I
00:35:30
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It was back when I do brought for now. It was a couple. Yeah, couple shows are good. Yeah, I said they're going to strip us. It was the same card. I'm sorry. Same card as Fury and Uzi because the IVF was going to strip him because they want that. That's our poster board. What they wanted Joshua versus. ah Philip Orridge, I can't pronounce his name. But anyway, one of that fight. bur i got um but There you go. Dewar got the upset. So now it's Joshua versus Dewar. And the IBF, Eddie Herndon pushing for that. So we know that Usyk is tied up with Fury. So you can't have that fight. So they stripped them. They're gonna have this belt. And this is a way for Joshua to be saying, hey, you know
00:36:11
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i'm a three time champion, you know, so that's if he wins and they had a face off today and they almost came to blows in a little face off, which is pretty funny. But um you know, they're fighting September. um
00:36:26
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I mean, to be honest with you, in the heavyweight division, if it's not Fury or Usyk, nobody really cares at this point. At this juncture right now, nobody cares about anything but Fury and Usyk. Let's get that rematch, let's run that. Now, they get the winner most likely, but at this juncture in heavyweight division, if it ain't Fury, it ain't Usyk, everything's chopped liver. Now, this is where I was gonna go with that because yes, you're right, right? The winner of that fight was supposed to fight the winner of Usyk and Fury so they can then unify the belts and all of that good stuff. It came out today. Anthony Joshua said in the news that he doesn't care if Usyk wins, he wants to fight Fury first. He said it's been too long that they've been waiting for this fight. Fury's been ducking him. And he said he wants that fight even if it's not for the belts.
00:37:18
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I mean, I don't, does that make sense? Or should he stop wasting time and go after the belts, right? Well, it's because you gotta look, Joshua is a smart man, okay? You gotta have people oh that will say that someone sells the face of boxing, this person's a face of boxing, Tank is a face of boxing, Ryan Garcia, all these other people. When you look at the money, Joshua's part of the top four of most money made on the Forbes list of boxers, okay? He fights more than once a year like his other guys do, don't do, I'm sorry. And he fought that they fight at Wembley Stadium again.
00:37:53
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they want to put 90,000 in Wembley. If they go, if they fight in Wembley or Tottenham or somewhere like that, what they've done before, you know, he fought Carlos Tackham at, at, I think Wembley or some one of them stadiums, you know, and it Carlos Tackham was like, who nobody knows who who he is, but he put like 70,000 in seats. Exactly. He, when he fought Klitzgo, you know, he had about 90,000 or whatever in those seats. So he's used to selling out these big arenas. So he needs a dance partner for that. And that is that essentially is their Mayweather pack. Yeah, that is who they need to to have fight over in the United Kingdom. OK, so that's why he's going for that fight because he knows it's a lot of money in that fight. And it's not looking so well. Fury has come up with this loss. He has a rematch. Yes. But there's video of Fury walking all hands and knees out of out of a bar. And and i and I don't know where he was. a oh
00:38:43
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Yeah, he was walking on his knees out of the bar drunk as a skunk. Look at terrible. So, you know, that's the fight. and And Joshua is smart with that fight because that's basically saying When it was Fury, Joshua, Wilder, we wanted to see those those three. Some of them mixed. Wilder finally got done with Fury, but he never got to do it with Joshua, Pauls. And now that Fury and Joshua, you know, they're back very, very relevant. Even if it's come off a loss, that's still a big draw over there. I caught it. ah so Paul's on that too. But yeah, so it's reckless.
00:39:17
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Well, yeah, that's that's a fight the British boxing fans want to see and I want to see it too. They might flop. You know, I've been I've been to a fight in a while. OK, the ball and buzz, the ball and buzz budget has a pretty low for the boy club or D. OK, because I haven't been in a lot of these fights like I used to be going like I was overseas for a couple of fights. I was here locally for some fights. I was in Vegas for some fights. I have not been to a fight in over a year and a half. This is a little ridiculous. Then you started messing with Flo Canteen, Hot Take Jake. The budget has been low for your boy, Clubber D. Shout out to them, because much love out to them. Bottom line sports, check them out every Tuesday. They got a great show. Check them out on Facebook, YouTube, all the good stuff. Bottom line sports. But your boy hasn't been going in no fights, OK? I'm going to talk to my publicist. We got to get this thing straightened out, because I need to start going to these fights again and be in front row and talking to some of y'all's baby mamas and mothers, OK? This is ridiculous.
00:40:08
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definitely tell uh Bronson I will be in touch with him uh sir Bronson and we will uh we'll figure out that schedule for you uh you gotta you gotta you publicist
Usyk's Title and Boxing Landscape
00:40:20
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take it too much off the top Paul's wow it's reckless as all get out Um, all right. Next question we have from shot. This is where my man. Hold on. Hold on. um ba get me Thank you. Get me some tickets. Thank please. Get me some tickets. I know. I know. I know. We've been slacking what happened. What had happened was
00:40:44
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Back when we had the podcast and only the podcast, we didn't have to as much to spend. ah So we were able to lavishly send Clubber D abroad to nice places and have him sitting, you know, ringside. But then we started going live on TV. Expenses went up, more money, more problems. And now Clubber D is sitting at home. So Tom, I apologize. We will get that rectified.
00:41:10
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like but travel deskal shallvel seepa machine Alright, the next question from our fan mailbag comes form comes from bare knuckle, not for chumps. I mean, I would say so I I I wouldn't want to be even a bare knuckle fight fighting contest. so i no So anyways, this comes from this person and they are from uh they're from Tampa, Florida uh and I guess this because they are wanting to talk about the jake paul flight but it says here um
00:41:43
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cupy We see that the Tyson Jake Paul fight has been delayed, which is now bringing up a bare knuckle contest between Jake Paul and Mike Perry. First of all, can you please tell us why the fight was delayed um and also so because most people know it was due to Tyson having to delay the fight. Why is this old ass man still fighting? And that's a quote from the mailbag, old ass man. That ain't me saying it, Mike. so I'm sorry. Hubbard, what are your thoughts on this? Jake Paul and Mike Perry, they're boxing though. They're not bareback. They're boxing, right? No, no, they're they're boxing. Yeah, they're boxing. This guy likes bare knuckles. Yeah, that's great. So Mike Perry has boxed before. He fought on that. ah
00:42:30
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like where that app is. He fought on that when the Rampage had his team and Shannon Briggs had his team. He actually won that fight against a boxer. We all know Mike Perry from the UFC. Mike Perry is the king of of of a bare knuckle fighting right now. You didn't actually look Rocco. He knocked his two fault two fighting for you quit. He beat Eddie Alvarez. You've been a lot of people in bare knuckle. So he's the man right now in bare knuckle fighting. Now his boxing skills aren't bad. The problem is Mike Perry fights at what 185 ish, I think.
00:43:00
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seventy one eight five um Yeah, let me check that. like Jake Paul has been training to fight heavyweight, so he's coming in as a big dude. He's coming in as a lot bigger guy, and Jake Paul can pick him. Yeah, yeah, it is. He can kick a box. He's not a bad boxer. He's not terrible. So um I'll let you know who I think is the way later when I kind of get to see you know closer to the fight what they look like. but um Uh, Tampa, is that my brother? was that my brother His black ass get on. I was about to say, I was thinking, I was wondering if this was your brother, because didn't your brother say he might be sting at that contest? Yeah, he says he was sitting up in the rafters, uh, watching that fight up there. He's going now. I wish I can go. Um, but, uh,
00:43:40
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Yeah, um, and what was the other question it was about this fight or Mike's, I'm sorry, Mike Tyson so my Tyson so they had a Mike Tyson why is it all that still fighting, and by the way, I think it was a stomach ulcer to answer the question yet also where they had to stop the plane for him to ah see what was wrong with him and chat also in the past it's not a, it's not a new thing, but um I personally, it's like this. He's what, 58 years old? You know, sit your old ass down. You just don't need to be fighting. There's no need to be fighting. You have money. You have a gym out in Abu Dhabi. What are you doing? You got the edibles, the ear edibles, you know, say so Mike Tyson. What are you doing?
00:44:19
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it's just i don't and people were saying that the contract were the later he went in a fight the more money he'd get so i don't know if that's true but um a lot of fighters uh had said that um about it about the contract i i guess he got maybe saw it but um you know take it with a grain of salt uh but you know i i'm just not I never liked to fight. um I always said, and I said, you know, I was at my Texas last professional boxing fight, not the Roy Jones. who I was at the one in DC when he lost to Johnny McNobody ah in the 12th round or eighth round, whatever it was, but I was at that fight. He looked terrible. So I don't want to see him fight again. And yes, we all know we have the allure of, yes, it's Tyson. He can knock him out, yada, yada, yada. But this is not Tyson from 1991, 92, 93. This is not him.
00:45:09
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You know what I'm saying? This is a different Tyson. This is an older Tyson. So you can't be like, you know, it's the same guy, you know? This they say nobody except me says listening to too much Joe Rogan and Dana White in his ear. Mike need to chill. um you do I mean, I mean, I'm sorry. If they're having to stop a whole damn plane, because you're having also problems, you should not be fighting, sir. I don't care if you are the baddest man on the planet, at which you are. This is not good for your health.
Jake Paul vs. Mike Perry Significance
00:45:41
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Uh and I feel like uh I feel like this fight's probably not gonna happen. It's supposed to be rescheduled for November 15th but it's not probably not gonna happen. Jacko, I know that's Jacko from the Bruce Willis movie or that Jacko. I don't know what Jacko told you. a Top five. but What? What? You know, to be honest with you, if if ah Jake Paul knocks out or beats up Mike Perry really, really bad, he's going to get a lot of respect. He's got a lot of lot of respect for me. But if he does that to Mike Perry, he'll get more respect. He'll get more respect beating Mike Perry than Mike Tyson to me. Be honest with you.
00:46:17
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Oh yeah, of course. samein The same 42-year-old Mike Tyson, the same 45-year-old Mike Tyson. This is 58-year-old Mike Tyson, okay? And as Mike Perry said, he's looking to to to mess up Jake Paul's payday. The only reason he took this fight is because he wants to knock Jake Paul out so he so he can't fight Mike Tyson no more. I'll say this flow, yes. A 22nd clip of Mike Tyson sparring does look good, but that's not the whole minute of the clip. That's only 20 seconds they put on the internet. If anyone watches that fight against War Jones Jr., both of them look like dog shit, okay? Both of them look like dog shit. It was a small-ass ring. They look terrible. I'm sorry. It's not that they're standing too old. They can't move like that. And Mike Dodos is a War Jones Jr., just lost his son. Unfortunately, took his own life, you know?
00:47:04
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Shout out to, uh, Roy Jones Jr., you know, saying he's him and his family. Okay. But, uh, yeah, I, Mike Perry, if he beats Mike Perry and he beats him soundly, he got, he has my respect. When he beat Anderson Silva, when he beat, uh, Uh, would he beat, uh, Nate Diaz? Yeah. Cause Nate Diaz, when I saw Nate Diaz punch, it was like this. I said, he didn't even turn his punches. Oh my God. When I saw the sparring, I said, I knew it was going to, it was going to beat him. When I saw him spar against, uh, when I saw the sparring footage of Tyron Willie working up to the fight. And that was Mayweather's trainer that Tyron Willie was working with. Okay. When I saw that footage.
00:47:42
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Oh no. Jake Walker whoop his ass. I already I already knew. So like that that's why I kind of wait to see these guys who they when they fight them, how they look and they sparring and things like that. they have They picked up the boxing. My parents only had one boxing fight and he won. He he fought a pro boxer, but I want to see how he looks because, you know, it's you could do UFC, you could do bare knuckle, but that's not boxing. That's totally different. It's bare knuckle. you You cut real easy. You get sliced up really fast. so And after that, you know what I'm saying? It's a very close clinch, damn near clinch type fighting. That's not, you can't do that in boxing. Oh, okay. So you're not going to count. Okay. So, okay. So you're not even counting that nearly anything like box. we've gotten Now, can I, can I get your, now look at this comment, please. Oh, good.
00:48:30
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Jackal says, I think if he beats Mike Perry, he should get his rightful fight against Canelo. And I think he will win that as well. Hello, Jackal. Jackal, you're a good guy.
00:48:44
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yeah He might as well fight. You know what? He should fight John T. Water if it's a heavyweight, right? I think you should fight him too. Fight, fight Joshua, fight him all. If he can do that, woo. yeah i give for this one that's a good one that's good i mean But you know what? But you know what? He's onto something because I put like this, Jack. You have a point because Canelo doesn't like to fight anybody. He said he would never fight somebody like Jake Paul, but then he said he would fight him later. So I can see them not having Canelo fight somebody and just keep ducking Benavidez and go ahead and fight Jake Paul instead. I can see that. I can really see that in about a year or two. Right. But could you see Jake Paul defeating Canelo?
00:49:34
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no No, no, no, no, not in 90 days. Snowballs in hell. It now what did i yeah and would be Joshua verse, uh, in Ghana type stuff. If they fall because Joshua wasn't playing when it got him, he put them down with, I should have. So I would definitely done that.
00:49:54
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Flo says he wasn't in good shape in that Jones fight. Nobody except me says, where's Roger Mayweather when you need him? Which is hilarious. And then Flo chimes in again with, yeah, fight all the old heavyweights. You know, hey, at least he's he would be making money from that fight. And I think that's ah the whole point. of that all It's just a cash grab toward his cash grab. His last, I think his last pay-per-view Jake Paul had didn't sell that well. um So he's it's kind of on a downward downward slope. and hit my mic He's on a downward slope as far as ah his pay-per-view buys. So I think he kind of went for the gusto going with Mike Tyson, to be honest with you, because a lot of people aren't tuning in as much because they know it's a spectacle. It's not it's not good
Boxing Industry Challenges and Fan Influence
00:50:40
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good boxing. you know it's The thing about boxing, and I was hoping Tony would come on. Yeah, I don't know what happened. I'd send him to look. Thanks.
00:50:48
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Well, we're going to do a top 10. The thing about boxing nowadays is that it used to be a sport where that you had the niche fans who really love boxing. That was mostly mostly the masses of people who love boxing. And then the casuals would watch like, oh oh, wow, Tyson's fighting. Let me tune in. Or Roy Jones is fighting. Cool. Let me tune in. You know, things like that. That's cool. That's fine. But now. The casuals have a voice with other social media outlets, and they say some of the dumbest stuff. And because that's the but majority of people saying it, because they're not really boxing fans, um the boxing community is starting to listen to that and grift to cater to those people. And that's the bad thing in boxing right now. like you know Growing up, boxing, every fighter wanted to fight the best. Now it's like, oh, well, that fighter, he drives a Lamborghini, so he has to be better. What? What are you talking about?
00:51:39
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like uh the community unfortunately and the boxers starting to listen in and the commission commissions are i think are starting to listen so there some of these fighters are trying to act they're acting too divaish acting like they don't want to fight anymore so and that's the story i might do a short or something like that later about pbc fighters who have all lost when they fight fighters that don't fight at pbc you know it's a it's a long list of fighters you know from from gay russell to aero spence to
00:52:20
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Saburo Matias, to uh, Charlo when he fought Canelo, you know, all these fighters, Deontay Wilder, they're cool when they fight somebody, when he fights a real competition, because they get their ass whooped. Steven Fulton fighting the monsters, so there's a lot of fighters who cross the street, got that ass whooped. So that's the problem with boxing, you gotta have the best fight the best. If you're not here to do that, go to celebrity boxing, you know, go to tiddly weeks or something like that, you know. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think we've we've talked about this ad nauseam. I think that we have discussed this so much that it it kind of makes my ears bleed when these casuals come on and you know discuss things that that they don't know anything of of what they're talking about. And it just seems like um
00:53:02
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the farther we get away from the golden age of boxing, not only does the sweet science you know dissipate, not only does it it get more decrepit from from the last use, but also we don't get to see the the the prime fights that we want to see when people are actually in their prime and not just aging each other out. or or or putting causes or draining people or rehydration and all this other bullshit, not crossing the street and everything else that happens with these, uh, uh, these diva fighters, uh, these days. So, all right. Well, thank you for that. Next mailbag question from m MMA BMF mobster, uh, out of Atlanta, the ATL. Um, and they ask,
00:53:48
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On July 6 in California, there is a boxing match scheduled between two former UFC, ah you know, popular fighters, Nate Diaz versus Jorge Masvidal. What are your thoughts on this fight, Clever D? I'm glad you left that off the fighters. We named all the fighters that are boxing tomorrow. I mean, sorry, not tomorrow, but um but Next Saturday, next Saturday. It's next Saturday's next week. oh Yeah, I'm glad you got that one off because they had like um a press conference in California and they got the scrapping.
00:54:28
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Nate Diaz's folks started fighting with, a oh right, Masvidal's people. And Nate Diaz's trainer ah bloodied up one of the fighters that was messing with Masvidal. I mean, it's just a a yeah just a thing. And the thing about that fight is like the the the buildup to that fight because the undercard, they have some decent fighters fighting undercard, Fernando Vargas, who was one of my, so when I when i really started really getting into boxing, Fernando Vargas, him, oh Floyd Mayweather,
Ryan Garcia's Suspension and Career Implications
00:55:00
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David Reed. That was an Olympic gold medalist that year, and I was a big fan of all those fighters. If you remember, David Reed had the little eye thing for Trinidad and all that stuff, but a friend of artists, but when he fought the Alahoya, he, you know.
00:55:12
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got caught with steroids or whatever and still lost that fight in that fight with a Trinidad that took years off his life. But ah he almost won that fight being it it ain't stopping in 12. He has three sons at that box now and his son, his youngest is fighting Ryan Garcia's brother, younger brother. And they were going back and forth spar war the world words. You know what I'm saying? You got Ryan Garcia was up there talking shit saying like, you know, your dad's a juicer and that and I'm like, bro, I know you ain't talking. But ah they have fought like I don't know why you talk about Fernando Vargas a legend. and ah had a ball like How can you talk about him Jim? But anyways, so Ryan's younger brothers fighting Fernando Vargas a son, they know each other, they don't like each other because they fought an amateur. So that's actually a decent card, decent fight on that card, which I'm um'm eager to see. But ah yes,
00:56:03
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APS has one, fight boxing experience, you got You got Jorge Masvidal, who is a hell of a street fighter. I'm giving him his flowers. He is a hell of a street fighter. Kimbo even gave him his flowers. Kimbo. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace. Towards the end of his career, a good MMA fighter. He wasn't bad. He just had to fight anybody in any weight class, and his record reflects that. But towards the end of his career, that's when he turned it on, when he knocked out a Darren Till, then it skyrocketed from there.
00:56:39
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And then a knockout with Ben aspirin made him high level, you know what I'm saying? So um he's done a lot as far as a businessman. He has bare knuckle MMA, which is good. But he's doing boxing now against Nate Diaz in the rematch of the BMF belt.
00:56:58
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I like it. I like it. I like you. I don't want to pay for it. No, I know. I'm not paying for it. I'm not paying for it. I mean, I would say would say Nate Diaz because he's more act. No, no, no. Take it back. Taking it back. Taking it back. Nate Diaz's face, him and his brother's face has that scar tissue on it. It's just terribly bleed easily. So just like the first fight when it stopped because of a cut,
00:57:32
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Clubs bangers.
00:57:38
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Clubs bangers. Masvidal round seven. rep the
00:57:47
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I agree with you. um You're right. Those cuts always get in the way. or Diaz in that BMF fight obviously was not able to continue because they stopped it because of the cut, even though we may think that that doctor should just blow off at that point. But he didn't, so we got to take the decision for what's worth, even though we all think it's bullshit. um So that being said, on to our last mailbag question. Before we get one from me, because I have my own question. liberty But this last question is coming from, this is very interesting, username here, strumping PEDs.
00:58:27
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ah Now I'm glad you all turned in for the fireworks tonight I want y'all to go ahead and subscribe at Ball and Buds B-A-L-L-A-N-D-B-U-D-S as we always have fireworks with Clubber D and myself And hoping that we get Tony Lee Savant on here for some more fireworks I'm a fireworks god damn list under that for pound debate, but if not, I get that debate before the debate tonight, stay tuned in with us because I know you're going to see those fireworks tonight. That's must-see TV tonight as well. um I know I'm going to get some popcorn and be laughing my ass off after this when Biden and and Trump go at it. But ah Trump and PEDs, Ryan Garcia is retiring instead of letting them get
00:59:11
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the the fan mailbag says getting let him didn't get the credit for suspending him as he was suspended for the peds that he popped dirty for on thursday garcia also forfeited the 1.2 million dollars from his match against Haiti and the win was overturned to a no contest. Clubber D, how do you feel about Ryan Garcia retiring instead of taking the suspension, even though he still has to take it? And also, how do you feel on his prospects going forward? It's just semantics. he just that I mean, if anyone who follows Ryan Garcia and what he says on Twitter, you know he's full of shit.
00:59:51
Speaker
um You know, he says a lot of stuff. Uh, they cheated. Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah. He's another one. Um, so there's something with Ryan Garcia. Um, they did a plea deal so we can got it. Got a year, you know, so and that's, that's fine. He did he only fights probably once a year anyways. Um, They turned to a no contest now today as of today. He said that it was a trainer scooter who's a world renowned boxing trainer help you lose weight to make you make weight um gave him something and.
01:00:24
Speaker
When him and his family has started doing a blame game. This it was this, it was that it was that the two amino acids and ah amino acids in a car company, the car company guy came on. He was on Fox News and everything. You know, it's like, no, we tested our lot. It's not our lot. So there's nothing in our stuff. The other company, the neutral, whatever. ah are thinking about taking legal actions against Ryan Garcia. Now that's when now he's coming out saying he wants to talk about the trainer because at first it was Ashwagandha. He said, this is what made me pop hot. Ashwagandha came out and said, no, no, it ain't us. Don't try to say that. You'll get screwed if you you say that. oh Oh, damn supplement came out. Well, you cannot keep blaming other things. And then now he's saying the trainer and the trainer on June 2nd had an interview saying, yeah, what i this is what I did with him. ah This is the stuff we did. Here is
01:01:12
Speaker
Here is the the lot that we used um To this is a lot he emailed Vada the lot that he gave him a supplement So they already know they test the whole whole batch not just that particular thing to make sure and nothing else was was tainted He said that straight to Vada so he's already been cleared So the fact that he's using us the ah the trainer last minute as a fall guy He's probably gonna get sued for that because you can't you can't keep saying it's I don't take supplements only take a little bit of supplements I refuse to Hell, Vada was supplements I'm using. Okay. You cannot keep doing that stuff. You know, so it's, that's, that's the problem. I think that, I think the Jackal, I think the Jackal may be flows burner account. I'm not sure what's happening here, but the Jackal says they screwed Ryan. It's gotta to be a conspiracy.
01:02:00
Speaker
There's no lines to read between, okay? If your misery loves company, tell Flo, enjoy the guest room. Because anyone, put it like this. if if If you cheat and you keep pointing fingers, and each time you point a finger, it gets cut, you just gotta say, you know, take to your suspension, just come back to boxing. It's not that hard. And, you know, if he's such a religious guy, why are these religious people talking about him, all the bad things he says about people's wives and girlfriends, they like to ignore that that stuff and all his actions, okay? So let's not be blind to all that crap. and be completely accountable for him. He's a grown man, okay? He cheated. So what? Move forward. Devin Haney took the fight. He knew that ah that he had that stuff in the system and still chose to fight him. That's all Devin Haney. There's a lot of money that at hand. um and And Oscar De La Hoya, you need to pay both of them, because he's pretty slow on paying them. I've read that. but you know
01:02:52
Speaker
And that's the work. Yeah, that's actually a question that Flo had. So have Haiti and Garcia really not gotten paid? And if so, how is it normal to wait this long? You guys are saying it's through the zone and they got the pay-per-view. The pay-per-view takes time for them to pay them. But, you know, I don't know that the contract, they private the problem is a lot. Someone with Garcia's money has to go to Devin Haney and the commission and New York commission and it has to go to WBC. So it it has to, they have to weed that out. but you know, that's on De La Hoya. That's Golden Boy. that's That's his promoter. So, you know, De La Hoya came out saying, fuck David Haney and that and I, like, shut up, De La Hoya. Go back to wearing fishnets. You know what I'm saying? So ah he's saying, first he's against Ryan. First he's against this person. He's he's always against Canelo, you know, and he tried to point out, well, Ryan got a year, but Canelo got six months and did it. Either way, they all cheated. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. So, you know,
01:03:51
Speaker
Yeah, we know floids we know it's not you. I was just joking. He's Christ gullible. But i you know, it's the Ryan Garcia situation for me personally, right? You have a big ah you have a big social media backing. Everybody likes you or the younger folks like you and some adults that don't like accountability like you also um keep that momentum. Keep training. Just come back next year. It is what it is. You know, I'm saying like it's It's not that hard, but I hate when I see people try to make excuses for a grown adult and say, oh yeah, no, he's nice. He's nice. And then he's doing X, Y, and Z over here, which you ignore that, but you're cool with him just because he's, you know, he says praise Jesus after he says, I'm going to bang someone's girlfriend and you're going to do nothing about it. That's cool. But because he said, praise Jesus, get out here with that man. I'm not doing it.
01:04:40
Speaker
So the Jackal continues boxing got this one completely wrong and now more than ever holding back money making a fight in Davis versus Ryan 2 instead of but making them wait a year. Well, obviously a Ryan Garcia fan. He's a Ryan Garcia fan, but he doesn't watch boxing. Cause I just said the top, the top four fighters that make money and Forbes list of fighters. Ryan Garcia ain't on it. Okay. He's not in no one's pound for pound boxing can keep moving on without Ryan Garcia. He's not a major figure. He has no role titles. The time he had, he could fight for a role title. He couldn't make weight. So boxing doesn't really care about wearing Garcia. It's going to keep on going without him.
01:05:19
Speaker
OK, let's be clear his pay for you buys. He had one good one with will tank when he lost that fight. His following fight against Oscar Duarte. He only had 5000 people show up and had terrible numbers on his own. So let's be clear that Ryan Garcia is not the next worry. Jones Jr. OK. He's a good prospect, he can get better, but don't act like that's not crowd him like he's got a belt or done something, he hasn't. Cuz if he took it serious, he would have made weight and all this and he would have done his ass. And we were talking about him being the next being the WBC champion fighting anyone else. So let's not bring all this other crap in there. All right, so think about it. I know he's your YouTube God, but this is boxing, I hit my mic again. This is boxing, all right?
01:06:02
Speaker
Real boxing fans tolerate Ryan Garcia's antics, but it's not like he's Anthony Joshua or somebody, a heavy hitter like like Fury or somebody like that. He doesn't pull numbers like that. He just doesn't, okay? He probably stole his fight too. Go ahead, Omar. Yeah, no, you're good. Hey, Flo, at least you stand 10 toes down and you do you you stick with what you say and I at least say that's good on you and you you got good morals at least. Yeah, he's probably never gonna read it though, so. don't expect to reply. Um but I appreciate you anyways. Um shout out to uh D D clubs. The the the uh Ridge. My brother. My brother. Shout out. to i'm running in shout out Um the Jackal uh had another uh
Mayweather vs. Davis: Rivalry Speculation
01:06:50
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hold on. This is the one. I do think you have to point but I do want to ask you as you think, do you think, excuse me, as Gervonta Davis Tank gets closer to beating Floyd's undefeated re
01:07:03
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that Floyd will try to cheat him. I see he seems jealous. Is this Jake? Is this how I take Jake between right? Right. Right. tanks Right. Right. tanks Right. tanks ah record and the Right. tanks titles not regular Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right
01:07:22
Speaker
before even do that what was one of the best lightweights of all time before it became monday maywe <unk> pretty war for be up a torogati and um and and gale corraes people like that Heavy hitters. That's when you know, you don't know box and even write that. Okay. So look, look at this is what you should do. Go like this. Look at your nails. They're dirty. Clean them. Come back and write something constructively. That's nice. All right. first warning that's gotta be that's gotta be hot take yeah because he made he made that same that's it hot take jake's burner he made that same uh statement on the show uh you had to destroy he's not even close he's only 30 and oh he would still have to win another 20 fights in a row just to get match his record like what are we talking about 30 years old before he fights somebody meaningful 30
01:08:09
Speaker
yeah look What tank look where flod was when he was 30 years old what he did already the people he thought and the people exactly in his his resume. So stop, stop. Wipe your nose to spray running. Well, I guess you know, I'm not sure what happened to Tony V. Savon. I sent him the link about 40 minutes ago. I've hit him up four or five times since then. Thought he was going to come on. Maybe he started streaming. You know he's always recording, which I don't. I'm not mad at you. I keep doing anything but. I told him 730 and that's right when I said the link was 730. So we were hoping to have him on. Doesn't look like he's gonna be able to
WWE and UFC Partnership Announcement
01:08:44
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make it. but We are going to go over his pound for panel list that he sent in. Before we get to that, there is one more note I wanted to make um because we do know that WWE and UFC.
01:08:56
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now under the TKO Corporation, are now partner partnering on a lot of events. For instance, um um they've been sending people to each other's events. They're gonna start ah working in other ways together. But one of the ways this weekend, w WWE superstar, Finske Nakamura, one of my favorites, will be in the corner. for a very huge up and coming prospect for UFC, Ray Tizura, who will be fighting Carlos Hernandez. So we don't really need a club bang or anything. I just wanted to point out that Shinsuke would be in his corner. And Shinsuke was a former MMA fighter himself with a three in one record. Yeah, a fun pride. ah Well, I mean, they had ah they've had the the crossovers happen quite a while, quite a bit. They've had ah ah Jake Paul.
01:09:46
Speaker
Hold up, no, Logan Paul hold up a, uh, I think Sam, uh, Dominic, Dominic, my best friend, so like that you've had Ray Mysterio in the crowd before. So they've kind of, you know, ever since they, they bought the, whatever. And also they've had Michael Chandler on Raw say, I want to fight with Conor McGregor. So that's, yeah they've, they've been trying to work in, you know, in unison. And I think Saudi Arabia, I think you'll see was just there the first time this past weekend, but, uh, WWF or E I'm sorry, E where were there before. So, you know, we're kind of working with and, uh, and, uh, WWE w has has plans now in the works to go perform at the spear as well, which is, uh, you know, where UFC is going to have their first fight coming up in September. So anyways, I just thought that was a cool note and wanted to get your thoughts on that. Oh, right.
01:10:36
Speaker
I mean, it sounds pretty cool. um i I really wish Tony was here. I wanted to get y'all's debate going on. It looks like it's not gonna happen. I'm ready to hear Tony's list. I mean i know it, but whew. Well, i'm gonna I'm gonna list it out. I'm gonna list it out for the fans watching at home. Tony, I wish you were here to defend yourself, brother, but we're gonna have to go on what you had, because it's in the list, baby. Tony's how Tony D'Souveau boxing pound for pound list goes a little something like this.
Tony's Boxing Rankings Analysis
01:11:07
Speaker
We will start with just the first three because I know that you're going to have some sort of point of contention here. So I'm going to list out the first three and we'll do that. We'll do three and then we'll do the next three and then we'll do the last four.
01:11:19
Speaker
cool. I just pulled it up out on my on one of my pages. So I'm kind of looking at it right now. So I can enjoy it. You're good. Yeah. Awesome. So here's pound for pound list at number one. He has Terrence Crawford. at number two he has Oleksandr Usyk who recently obviously beat Tyson Fury and at number three he has Devin Haney the recently reinstated even though he's still lost technically I mean we all saw it but right it was reversed because of the PEDs and Garcia so Haney is his number three let's start with those three and how you feel about that all right ah so any
01:12:00
Speaker
Boxing top three should be in any order because you can defend each person kind of argue each person why they should be at that level, but for me personally, I have Usyk, Bud, and Inouye, the monster, okay? These three people are two division undisputed, okay? When I say undisputed means they they got all the belts, all four major sanction bodies, they got all four belts, okay? now You can argue that Inouye hasn't fought the same toughest opposition as the others. So that's why I don't have him as my number one, but I still pay respect because he's demolished this about everybody's fault. And steven Stevie, Stevie Fulton, Louis nearly all those guys are, are ex-champions. Those are really legit fighters. Now, Devin Haney said he's retired for a year. So I didn't even put him on my list. I took that Haney away. And, um, even though he popped for peds, uh, I still kind of.
01:12:54
Speaker
Oh, that's my man Josh down there. Someone actually with some common sense. um So is that you? Okay. Shout out to Josh, 86 boxing. You guys want some real boxing news? top This guy right here, man. He does deep dives into the old school boxing. Josh is that guy. And he interviews a lot of upper comers, too. um Hey, I watched the stream with him and his and his buddy the other day, and they were going out on the old school boxing. I was like, yo, I was watching. I was like, thoroughly I was thoroughly impressed with their knowledge. So shout out to the to to them for real. Oh, no. We'll get you one pretty soon. Oh, we need to got to get him on the next next boxing one. That'd be great. Um, but Flo was asking me to put the list up. Unfortunately, Flo Tony didn't have it in actual list form. He hadn't finished the blog. So he only sent it to me in a Facebook message. So I only have it on my paper. But what I will do for you is I will display the yeah ESPN yeah pound for pound list that they have. Um, and so let me add that to the stage real quick. Here we go. Um, and then, so, uh, we'll look at their top three. Uh, they have Ushik at number one.
01:13:55
Speaker
Karen's Crawford at number two and in a way at number three. So following exactly what you said. That's what I have. That's what I have right there. Yep. Now, I'm the reason I said Haney's because the last performance, even though I love Haney, he's in my, if he, so if Haney didn't say he retired for a year, he still be in my list, but he just wouldn't be at three. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think the three, I think the three's a little high. Even if, even if nothing else than the fact that Again, even though PEDs were involved, we saw him get caught by multiple hooks from Ryan Garcia. He got caught and a lot of people do memes, but you got to understand Henny didn't get knocked out. He fought, he stayed the whole fight. Okay. So he did not, write he didn't quit like Ryan did against Tank. He see fought the whole fight. Um, every round from two to seven, two to eight,
01:14:45
Speaker
Handy won those rounds, okay? If you look at it, I watched the fight twice already. Handy won those rounds. Each round that he didn't get knocked down in, he won, okay? Mine's the first. But, you know, it was a stretch where it just, he lapsed in judgment and just got lazy in there and Ryan took advantage and Ryan did what we're not supposed to do, knocked him out. But when someone doesn't make weight by three pounds, you think they're going to come in tired. You don't have the same stamina if you're overweight or you didn't make weight. So that just proves in with the cheating, whatever, you know, is what it is. So yeah, Henny, I took about my list and say he's retired. So let's let's keep it moving. um All right. cool yeah
01:15:22
Speaker
for number four, he has a Canelo Alvarez at number five. He has Demetri Beeville and at number six, he has Arthur better. Here's the problem with that. Here's the problem with that. How do you have Canelo over Beeville when people beat Canelo? now as we That makes no sense. i he You, how can you have Canelo over Beeville when can be will beat him drop Canelo down? Okay. For me. I got better BF at number four. All right. Oh, wow. Okay. Nice. There we go. A hundred hundred percent knockout rate, uh, uh, radius. All right. Everyone he's fought, he's knocked out just like virtual Ortiz, just like, uh, uh, Gary out of town Russell before he lost. Okay. Now flow. You ain't never seen it in a wifi. Get out of here. Uh, so he's just a' seen him fight, but, uh,
01:16:15
Speaker
So after Benabif, you know, I would put Beval there. Okay. That fight needs to happen. I can't wait for it to happen. Should have happened already, but it got pushed back. You know what I'm saying? Or. Then at, would that be six? Then I'll put Canelo at six. I'll put Canelo at six. Okay, can so he had Canelo, Beevil, Beevil. You have better Beev, Beevil, Canelo, and that's because obviously Beevil beat Canelo, so you can't put Canelo over Beevil in just common sense format. All right, cool. So let's go ahead and look at ESPN and see where they came into play at then. Uh, hold on one second. Let me add that to the stage. There we go. All right. So for number four on ESPN, they have Dimitri Bevel. Okay. And they also have no over Canelo. So just your reasoning exactly yeah ESPN has done the same and put Bevel ahead of Canelo. Now they have better be of at six instead of four where you have him. So they, uh, look at that record. 20 and Oh, 20 knockouts. Okay. People 20 and Oh, 20 knockouts. He's no joke.
01:17:21
Speaker
Now people have 22 and 0 and 11 knockouts. So I think, I mean, is that why you think maybe because he has the, the advantage and wins maybe because he's been the fighter that can be Canelo. Okay. Canelo boots. I mean, Arthur better be of, okay. His resume is good, but it's not as good as be volts just cause the Canelo fight. Okay. And he moved down for that fight, I believe. No, he, no, no. Can I move up? I'm sorry. Can can I move up? but Regardless, better be a he's older too. It's like 36 37, you know what I'm saying? They're trying to age them out. Um, and that's been a rumor with the vault, trying to keep aging them out, aging them out, and then pushing that fight away. Cause better, better be a kind of like, you know, uh, uh, he'll be a Morgan, Morgan middle and Islam, a cat, my cottage, you know, he's Muslim. So he doesn't like to fight anywhere around Ramadan. And unlike, hain't like Haney trained during Ramadan for the, uh, Loma fight, but.
01:18:17
Speaker
But our BF doesn't like to train around Ramadan. So, you know, that that's why it's fights have been stalled forever. But yeah, I can't, I can't put Canelo over Bevol. I can't do it. Got it. All right. Get out of here. Doubt out to everyone who is tuning in. And those of you subscribing, I see subscriptions coming in on the YouTube notifications. So thank you everyone out there. If you have not, please. Yeah, let's get to 100 at least, right? We gotta get this channel going, so please subscribe at Ball and Buds. You see it right on top of me up there. Go subscribe at Ball and Buds and also join at the bottom line Sports on Facebook and check us out as well. That being said, let's move on to the next three we have four or the next last four excuse me on Toni the savants P4P list. He has at number 7 Earl Spence Junior at number 8.
01:19:13
Speaker
Tyson Fury at number nine. Let's stop there. Let's stop there. No, no, no. Let's stop there. You obviously seven and eight have had a nerve. Let's take that off right there. That's distracting. um
01:19:30
Speaker
He has Earl Spence over Tyson Fury. He does. Yes. Earl Spence at number seven. How? Above ten. Two. I mean, it takes him to be on there, but it takes him to be 10. But how, I don't see how Earl Spencer be on there. He hasn't fought in over a year. He got his ass whooped his last fight against Terrace Butler when it was, when it was finally, you got to understand when they, when they fought, that was the first time he's done real drug testing. That's all I'm saying. um boom And you saw- He also go has him, he also has him above in a way at number 10. What?
01:20:06
Speaker
He has where's where's the way out on his list? Number 10. How is a two time undisputed champion at number 10 on your pound for pound list? a How was that? Oh. my god i'm glad he ain't on here tony i love you but god damn what are you talking about how is anyone not number one two or three on your list that's impossible how is he not that's Tony as i heard your quarterback list you got Kayla Williams at 10 so i we're gonna i heard i saw her i saw that i saw
01:20:42
Speaker
It was bad. It was bad. I understand the biasness. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Maybe he hasn't seen Inouye. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe he has never seen Inouye fight. Maybe. Maybe. You probably never seen it. You know, if you haven't seen a fight, I get it. He fights over, I think, Japan, right? So thank you, Derek. My brother. A horrid list. Like, it's just how? What if Inouye had 10? 10. After Spence, Fury, and Tank. Tank was number nine, by the way, for him.
01:21:15
Speaker
All right, let me gather myself. Gather yourself and give us your seven, eight, nine, and ten. All right, no order. Okay, seven. I got Bam Rodriguez is on my list. He's number seven. I'll say he's there. Okay. Eight. Now I'm spitballing because I didn't write this down. I only wrote a couple down. I didn't write the rest. And eight. Okay, that's fine. I'm going to put better. They didn't do this. got be an eight gottamangelist And if anyone says, oh, why you got him there? Kayla Plant. And, oh, you have never seen BAM fight. like i
01:21:56
Speaker
I don't know. He hasn't seen a fight. Anyways, we're going to put Bam at ten. Who's he got? He got he got Benavidez, Tank, Shakur, and Bam at ten. Okay, that's it. See, Bam should be higher than Tank. But anyways, I got Bam. I got Bam at what I have at eight. Bam at seven. Benavidez. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Benavidez at seven. I'm eight. I'm sorry. And the reason I have Benavidez is people are like, oh, why you got him so high? He's fought Caleb playing an ex-champion. He's fought
01:22:27
Speaker
What's his name? God. The duty fought but after Caleb Plant. Looking up on what you're not It's it's all good that's all good. I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to remember. um and if Andrade, Andrade, give me your Andrade. Andrade, that's right. Yeah. yeah that's So he fought him and he was a, that's who Canelo moved up because he avoided the fight. Knocked him out in like a third or fourth round. Okay. So then if he does 100%, got him at a, got him at what I would've had an eight. Now nine. All right.
01:23:02
Speaker
And this is a disclaimer because I do not like to put heavyweights in my top 10 list because the reason being I do have Usyk up there is because he came from cruiserweight. And also he's not your typical heavyweight who just no real skill like a wilder. He has good boxer. He can like, you know what I'm saying? He has, he's a damn good boxer. And also he's a two-time to the best cruiserweight of all time over at Vanna Holyfield moving up to heavyweight as well.
01:23:32
Speaker
I would say, all right, so we're at nine. Mm-hmm. Yep. So, so far, you have Usyk, Crawford, Inouye, Baderbiev, Bevel, Canelo, Bam, and Benavides.
Significance of Boxing Belts
01:23:51
Speaker
Oh. but you're missing the likes of just to give you a few just to just spark your mind. Spence Fury, Tank, Stevenson, and Tiafumo Lopez, maybe Loma, maybe uh that's funny what this what we'll do. This is what we'll do. This will do. So, I'm not going to disrespect the man. I know he has a lot of suspect fights but I put Tiafumo Lopez at number nine. Okay. Okay. Put him up there. The reason reason being is because see people calling me when we're doing a show Jason Aponte. We're doing a show so maybe you ain't listening. You ain't watching. So we know you don't watch. Thanks a lot for supporting the boys that you've known you for 20 years. Why aren't you watching? Yeah, you're watching. But ah anyways, ah so at nine, a result of putting T a few more Lopez there is because
01:24:36
Speaker
This man is a two division champion. He's very young in the game. He's only 2425 in that tank. I'm sorry, not tank, but a Shakur Haney range. He's 140 champion. He fought Lomo beat him at 135. He would have been undisputed, but he's not because Lomo ducks. Devin Haney to fight to him so he didn't get the WBC for the BC belt. So he won that fight and then OK. He went to 140, got the belt, and then fought Josh Taylor, who was undisputed at 140 and whooped his ass. So that's why I got Tiafema Lopez at number nine, all right? You can't just put somebody i up there just because they just fought, but look at their body of work, okay? I don't care who you sell out in the arena and how much money do you make. What is your body of work as a fighter, all right? So that's why I got Tiafema at number nine.
01:25:24
Speaker
All right now 10 so 10 hold on a second let me let me introduce this real quick though because you already said that tank would automatically be above above spence right which we know all right hold on hold on i know i'm setting you up uh we also have the aforementioned Shakur Stevenson that we talked about earlier and then you have the honor all also rema uh getting votes on the ESPN list uh Lomachenko uh Fury Spence and Haynie so those are pretty much what you'd be looking at for your last click Now I already said earlier that I, I'm taking Spencer away. I'm sorry, uh, handing it away from his stage retire. If he was on this list, he probably be nine or 10. Okay. I understand Ryan Garcia had the pens and got Adyada, but so you're only doing that because he retired because if he wouldn't, he would be in your top 10. Yes. And, and if now, if Ryan Garcia would a be in a fair square and there's no drugs or weight loss, whatever.
01:26:21
Speaker
You know his ass about my list is where I'm gonna say what does that okay? However got it. It wasn't like it wasn't a fair fight. So right, okay, I Don't want to put Spence there Because he loads got awful. It's been over a year since we saw that ass whooping Yeah, he still had to come back from that come back from that ass This is, this is me being petty because I went and spent first Crawford for five years. And for five years, he ducked him saying that I'm going to do the easy route. He said this on videos. Anybody wants to research that. Um, this is facts here. Okay. So now tank, you look at takes body at work. He ain't really fought nobody point blank period.
01:27:06
Speaker
Okay? ah You're like, oh yeah, he beat Frank Martin. Y'all don't know who Frank Martin is. Y'all don't know who Frank Martin is. I punched my mic again. Flow union jinx me. so the flow culture yeah So the reason why I'm going to be nice, I'm going to say tank because he's fighting Lobo next. It's going to be for unified belt. WBO. against the WBA and it's going to be for the ring magazine and the, uh, lineal belt. And if you guys don't know the linear, the ring magazine is that belt. That's look like American flag, like Rocky war that that's basically states that that's the main person. That's the the main guy in that division. So I know Tony, the Savant have posted what belt means the most in boxing and he said, the WBC, the WBO, uh, the, the IVF or, uh, um, the WBA is really,
01:28:02
Speaker
If I point if I can do it correctly right here the little rocky belt right there That's the ring magazine belt. That means that the lineal belt means that you are the man at that division. Okay, Devin Haney held that when when Zab Jude was walking out to the ring Okay, when he was a little kid, so that belt right there. That's what tank in one mode fighting for ah amongst our other belts, okay, so I'm gonna put tank there at number ten Cause he's finally becoming a man and fighting fighters that he should have fought four or five years ago that called him out. But now at age 29, he wants to say, you know what? I want to fight the good fighters. Belts matter. So I'll put take at 10. So there we go. That's my check. And you have always said that.
01:28:46
Speaker
and you have all bad you have always said that before about tank. Um, so that's no surprise that you are ranking him there. So you had to recap number seven, Bam Rodriguez, number eight, David Benavidez, number nine, Teofimo Lopez, and number 10, Yervante, Tank Davis. Now let's take a look at how ESPN ranked those fighters. And so we see here, we should flow good shit. respect. We see here that they have Kate Davis at seven. So, you had him at ten. They have a seven. They have Shakur Stevenson in here who you did not have in your list at all. Um and they had Bam who you had at seven. They have him at nine. And then they have and they have Teofemo at ten. Uh notably missing
01:29:34
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beavviez uh and fury so that is the espn ranking what do you have to say i think fury the reason why fury gets a lot of slack is because fury looks like dog shit against uh in ganu who's not a boxer and then if you see what joshua did to fury he got him up out of here in two rounds and um you know i believe i somebody I know put that video up in our group group chat it wasn't me but it was somebody that watched that fight allegedly put that group that knockout in a group chat but you know it wasn't me because I i pay for my fights but anyways um um so it was I know who it was um uh so tell me this then uh there's gonna be a few
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raise your Raise your hand for your Slim Shady. um So the people would ask then, after looking at the ESPN list, why it is, and this could be recency bias because he just won, but why do you have Gervonta at 10? And I know why you do, because you said he hasn't bought anybody, but ESPN has him ranked at number seven, which is quite a bit higher. What do you think is the discrepancy there? Well, you got to look at two things. They have Gervonta and Tank Davis at seven, and they actually score at eight. And score down who's number nine and 10? But Jesse's nine BAM and then tennis teal female. OK, so you got two female and then you have Shakur, which are both ESPN fighters top rank. So they're having that. Got it. Damn. Damn should be hired. Bam holds two belts is fighting for his third belt in his division. He should be higher than that. um Tank has one belt his whole career.
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Okay. I don't count regular champions. Okay. I don't count when you say Devin Haney, Shakur Stevenson, uh, or trash or whatever, and then you don't fight them when you have the opportunity to fight them. I don't count when you say Ryan Garcia, you're on steroids, but we all, er everybody knows you're on steroids. And then when I want to fight you, you you drain him with 10 pound weight clause, and then you make it a catch rate of 136. That's why I don't put you there. Okay, if you're the man who been the man at 135 you should have already fought Shakur Stevenson already fought Devin Haney should have fought Ryan all these guys a long time ago, you're older than them when Mayweather released that that full video
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Um, of, of tank sparring Devin, Devin was only 16 and tank was 20 years old and Devin was, was, was, was manhandling him. Okay. The only posts that the clips were tank, you know, hit him a couple of times. He gave that to Ryan Garcia to post. But when now that human take our beefing, he posted a whole video and you saw that I know, right? yeah how is that Yeah. So people read between the lines when it comes to this boxing stuff. All right. It's kinda the, the answer is always in front of us. You just gotta look. Okay. Shakur Stevenson, I'm a big fan of Shakur, I love Shakur, I love watching them fight. Tiafema Lopez, big fan of him, but they work they fight for top rank, which is ESPN. So of course they're gonna be on the list. Now, I think Tiafema deserves to be on the list. Shakur, he has better accolades than Tank does in boxing, being a two division and unified champion, 130, 135. Yes, he has a better resume on paper
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than tank but Shakur hasn't looked so good his last few fights you know so that's the reason why I kind of kind took him up off there actually I was gonna have my 10 but I put tank there instead and that's because tank no actually I mean I agree
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Yeah, no, I was going to say, I completely agree with your reasoning. And I forgot that Shakur and Teofebo are top-ranked ESPN boxers. So they would have the bias to put them on the list. I completely slipped my mind. So that is really great analysis there by you. So I really appreciate you helping us out with that. um And so there you go, y'all. That is the top 10. Hey, Tony, we are sorry we missed you, brother. We really wanted to have you on. I was hoping to have a spirited debate between you and club or do you? We're going to have to. We're going to make sure he gets on next time for banter, brawls and bravado. The next time we have one in a couple of weeks here when we get Mike, we be on for some baseball will try to bring him on as well because.
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