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Why Workplace Wellness Matters with Dilan Gomih - E60
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Trying to prioritize your health while balancing work and family can feel overwhelming - especially when time and energy are in short supply.
Most of us wrestle with fitting movement into packed schedules, guilt around “selfish” self-care, and the frustration of not seeing results when life throws curveballs, like injuries or illness. It’s too easy to fall into an all-or-nothing trap, thinking if we can’t do it perfectly, it’s not worth doing at all.
This episode unpacks how small, consistent shifts in movement, mindset, and routine can spark real momentum - no matter how busy or burned out you feel. You’ll learn new strategies for breaking through the inertia, reframing fitness as a tool for resilience, and making even five minutes count. The insights come straight from someone who’s lived both the high-stress corporate grind and the journey back to energy and vitality.
Dilan Gomih is the founder of Dilagence, a health and performance company partnering with organizations to integrate well-being into corporate culture through off-sites, team-building workshops, and benefits communication. Before launching Dilagence, Dilan worked long hours on a foreign exchange trading floor, an experience that shaped her focus on high performance and energy management. She is a certified personal trainer with specializations in behavior change and corrective exercise, and has collaborated with leading fitness organizations globally. Dilan’s work centers on helping both individuals and companies unlock sustainable energy and create environments where people can thrive.
“You give me any human for a minute and I will show you how to make that minute effective for fitness.” - Dilan Gomih
In this episode you will learn:
- Why movement and fitness are not selfish pursuits but essential for fueling energy, mental sharpness, and performance in both work and family life.
- How to break down barriers to fitness by reframing movement as effective and worthwhile, even in very short bursts, and how to adapt when your preferred activity isn’t available.
- The importance of flexibility and mindset in building resilient routines, including letting go of perfectionism and embracing small, positive changes throughout the day.
- How nutrition and fueling choices can directly impact day-to-day performance, cognitive function, and long-term health, and the value of personal experimentation to find what works.
- Why sleep and recovery are integral to productivity and wellbeing, with practical context for prioritizing these areas both for fitness and workplace success.
- The role of framing mistakes and setbacks, both in personal health and at work, as learning opportunities, and how a solutions-oriented mindset sets the foundation for sustainable progress.
Resources
- Connect with Dilan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dilangomih
- Learn more about her offerings at Dilagence: https://www.dilagence.com/
- Subscribe to her newsletter, ‘C-Suite Workout’: https://c-suite-workout.beehiiv.com/subscribe?utm_source=home-of-healthspan&utm_medium=podcast
This podcast was produced by the team at Zapods Podcast Agency:
https://www.zapods.com
Find the products, practices, and routines discussed on the Alively website:
https://alively.com/
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Transcript
Introduction and Crisis Management Philosophy
00:00:00
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If something is going down, here are the two quick questions. Did I lose money? Is anybody dead? As long as the answer to both of those things are no, great, there's a solution.
00:00:10
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This is what I need to do next. Because the error or the mistake, the time ahead of you to do good, to make an impact, way longer.
Podcast Introduction and Health Focus
00:00:24
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This is the Home of Healthspan podcast, where we profile health and wellness role models, sharing their stories and the tools, practices, and routines they use to live a lively life.
00:00:38
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Dylan, we are here, the Home Healthspan podcast. It is exciting to connect with you. i know you are coming to us from the future. You're in London right now, but I appreciate you carving out the time.
Guest's Background and Fitness Journey
00:00:50
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Oh, it's such a joy. Before we jump into you, everything you do and have done, how would you describe yourself? I would describe myself as alive fitness enthusiast, founder, um chief energy officer for anybody who needs it.
00:01:09
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Chief Energy Officer. So I love this. i do think it's worth setting the stage a little bit for our listeners who may not be familiar with you because I think people might see you and you're like, wow, this crazy fitness person. But your background was pretty heavy ah corporate.
00:01:25
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and And so this was came out of a realization, a passion, a need that you've identified for yourself and people. millions of other people, I would imagine. So can you talk to me a little bit about, you you started with fitness enthusiasts. like when When did that start? How did that start?
00:01:45
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How did that manifest at different phases of your life? And what does that look like now for you? I so appreciate the question because um I grew up playing sports. I grew up an athlete.
00:01:57
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But I It's so interesting how like my association, my love, my passion for what fitness did for my life actually manifested much, much later when I was working 90 hour weeks.
00:02:09
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And if someone were to ask why, when I think about sports and everything that I did growing up, it's going to surprise anyone if you're listening on audio. I'm a an Nigerian woman who grew up figure skating. So love that juxtaposition for you. But um I grew up so devoted to a sport that required you to wake up at, you know, be at the rink at five in the morning, get back to the rink after school.
00:02:35
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But what I associated when it came to like fitness was the competition. It was performance. It was making sure that I showed up and in competition and for my teammates.
Impact of Fitness on Personal and Professional Life
00:02:45
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But when it came to the workplace, what a 5 a.m. m workout did for me meant that when I went to the trading floor, so when I started my career, I was working on a trading floor and foreign exchange trading floor.
00:02:56
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It's my mind was working at its best. When you're in a world where you have to operate in the fourth decimal place, so again, I was working on a foreign exchange trading floor, you're buying, selling currencies. That meant that my attention to detail was so high and I was always kind of really on.
00:03:12
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And what fueled that more than anything wasn't just you know picking up weights and putting them down, but it was that realization that it made me feel more confident. It literally was getting stronger.
00:03:23
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And my capacity to deal with high stress situations was just higher. And that, I mean, it seems to fueled what and why you do what you do now. But before we jump into that, I am curious, maybe selfishly and and personally on this, that whole point of, hey, that 5 a.m. workout helped you show up better, more mentally sharp, ah more ready to to take on the day, to do what is expected of you, what you're capable of at your best when you're at work.
00:03:54
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And I think... There are a lot of people, maybe not our listeners, but people who aren't necessarily in this world as much, who view fitness as almost a selfish activity. Oh, you're doing that for you.
00:04:08
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And i really see that I'm a better father. when I have energy, right? Like yeah if i stay consistent and and do my fitness, then can go all day, like go to the beach with my daughter, then we go play this game, then we go meet these friends. And I am a different person and she gets a different and I think better father if I'm able to carve out that time. So I i personally don't see it as a selfish thing.
00:04:35
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I think I'm better to those in my life when I get this. And it sounds like you were seeing the same Is that as you talk to organizations and and make your case, is that an uphill battle you're fighting? Like, how how do you position that?
00:04:51
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Yeah. and And I think it's actually because it is so worth making it just as simple as what you just said. Right. So when you move your body, you're getting more energy for everything that you have to do after.
00:05:04
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So initially when people think, oh, I'm taking time for myself to move, you're only associating with that word, taking time for yourself. But what happens next? When you go into your work, your mind is working better. What does your organization want from you? To be giving your best, not just be giving your 50 60%, but to giving your 100%.
00:05:20
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to giving your one hundred percent I use the word energy intentionally because energy is what fuels everything you do. How you show up in your family, how you show up in your workplace, how you show up with your friends.
00:05:31
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If you don't have any for yourself, then you could arguably say you're not giving any of those stakeholders your very best. So it's the farthest thing from a selfish act to say, I want to give my friends, my workplace, whoever else I'm interacting with my absolute best in order to do that, fitness, movement, insert whatever wellbeing activities, actually the requirement that allows me to do that.
Importance of Movement for Daily Performance
00:05:57
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And that's what I realized super early on, which was it's not that I like to work out. And don't get me wrong. i do think that movement and joy go hand in hand. But when I think about what would it mean for me to show up my absolute best during the day, that means movement was a priority.
00:06:14
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in whatever way I could fit it in. and I just want to be conscious of the fact that there, maybe in this audience, we have a lot of other fitness enthusiasts that identify with that word. But if somebody else is listening in the background and thinking, I don't do a 5am workout, that's not me.
00:06:27
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Or I don't do these crazy bootcamp classes. and be so clear that movement can mean so many different things to different people and they're all correct. was in ah a conversation, there was a bunch of, what's it, F45 people?
00:06:40
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people that they were all about the F45, this, that, and the other. And there's another lady there who is trying to get back into it and had just done, not F45, but just getting back into movement and fitness. She's like, oh yeah, you know I got to the gym and I and i did this 17 minute and it was intense. It was hard.
00:06:57
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And they were almost trying to shame her. Like, you can't get anything done in 17 minutes, this, that, and the other. Guys, I don't think you understand. like the The gap between zero and 17 is is thousands of times bigger than 17 to 45. Like what she did by getting that 17 is tremendously impactful because it's going from zero. it's That's where the biggest lift comes from that that starting point.
Effective Fitness Strategies and Adjustments
00:07:19
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And whether it's 10 air squats five times a day when you would have just been sitting in the office chair or you're at 45 or you know you're training for an Ironman, those gradations, it's that first step that you get the biggest lift, right?
00:07:34
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Oh, I love that you brought up this example to to underscore two things. First of all, you can make a 17 minute workout effective as heck. So the part that I left out of the story is, well, first, once I figured out that I was in love with fitness and what it did for my life, I'm very much not not so somebody that keeps things to myself.
00:07:54
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So I actually had this dual life where I was working full-time on a trading floor and I was teaching something like 10 fitness classes on top of my full-time job. Right? And along the way, credibility is important to me.
00:08:05
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So I certainly got my CPT or my certified personal training certification, my behavior change specialization, my corrective exercise specialization. Why? Because this concept of being able to train different types of bodies and understand any human that I engage with is incredibly important to me.
00:08:20
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But doing so also allowed me to understand this. You give me any human for a minute and I will show you how to make that minute effective for fitness. And that is so important for people that are working during the day because you know what?
00:08:32
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Getting a 17 minute break when you're working an intense, crazy job, that's tough. So sometimes you actually have to get in the habit of harnessing, what can I do in five minutes?
00:08:44
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What can I do in 10 minutes? As opposed to abandoning the concept of moving or doing something for your wellbeing at all. Because sometimes that's all you've got. All you got is five. All you got is 10. All you is 17. Use and know it's effective.
00:08:59
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The timing and what the movement is. So another thing I go back to, I had a ah friend, former colleague who was a runner, right? Identified runner and then hurt his ankle. It's like, oh, yeah. so i put on 40 pounds or something, right? Because I hurt my ankle. I couldn't run.
00:09:15
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Like, OK, well, that's interesting, right? I can say I'm a swimmer or I'm a this. And I had this knee surgery and I couldn't do anything. But that's not true. I had knee surgery, so I had to be careful with my knee. But I could do a bunch of stuff, right? Like I'd never miss a day at the gym. I just adjusted because it was about movement. It wasn't about a specific, I'm training for life at this point, not a competition.
00:09:36
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So identifying in a narrow niche where something gets in the way of that niche and saying, well, I can't do anything. say, no, no, no. I just need to move my body to stay healthy. And so if it means I can only do arms or I can only do back or I can only do core or, hey, I just had s surgery on my back. I couldn't do anything upper body. I can only cycle.
00:09:54
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Like there's always something it seems like you could figure out to do. I think when you phrase it that way, it widened your aperture for what else you can harness, right? Like what else you may not have realized could have been your thing.
00:10:08
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ah i didn't expect to bring this up. Sorry, sister. I'm going to put you on blast for just a second. But my sister ah is an incredible dancer. Absolutely incredible. Like growing and growing up, that was her gift.
00:10:22
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And she actually hurt her ankle a couple of years ago. And it was just such like a ah mindset shift where she was like, but what I do is I dance. That was my thing. Fast forward.
00:10:33
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She picked up cycling about a year ago. And then just this past February, she was like, wait, this brings me a lot of joy. think I might start competing. She started competing and she's actually like winning races, right? So it's like this, this like shift from like, oh, I'm only a dancer to wait. No, I need to move because movement made me happy.
00:10:53
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What are the other ways that I can move? Literally has kind of altered the course of her life. yeah Just, and it started with the mindset shift. moving from identity to things we do. These are things I do, and I can change the things I do, but it's not necessarily who I am or have to stay.
00:11:09
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So that's a lot on movement. How about how you fuel the body, right? To to move well, you need to fuel well. And it's it's something I've seen with my nieces, my daughter, others of my nephew.
00:11:24
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when you Certain foods go in, Like there's a good energy. Other foods go in there's crashes, there's upset in this, right? they're They're little kids. And you can see the sugar cycle with them pretty pronounced when they eat certain things versus others.
00:11:40
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How do you think about for yourself and or working with clients that fueling part of things?
Energy Management Through Nutrition and Recovery
00:11:46
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Yeah, and i'll I'll be careful here because I'll say my scope of expertise is not necessarily nutrition, but I do think that this connection between what you eat and how you feel is incredibly important. So I will say even for myself, like the simple shifts of realizing during the day when I ate something like a Rice Krispie Treat, I just remember on the trading floor at the time, Rice Krispie Treats, they were a thing.
00:12:08
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But you know when I ate it right after lunch and then I had this crash around 2 p.m., it started to really hit me that actually it wasn't even the case that I couldn't have that Rice Krispie treat after lunch.
00:12:22
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But if I wanted my brain to stay effective, I wanted to stay on, then that wasn't the right timing. right like I can't afford to have a ah sugar crash in the middle of my day. So being conscious of...
00:12:35
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How do you need to feel? What are types of foods that support high performance, particularly for you because everybody is different? And then actually creating cadences for yourself is really ah unlock because one size doesn't fit all.
00:12:49
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How I eat as an athlete today is completely different from how you eat andrew as as you know of a former competitive swimmer. Well, how I eat now as a former competitive swimmer is very different than how I eat when i was as a competitive swimmer. I need 12,000 calories a day or whatever I was eating back then.
00:13:06
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Totally. One day I'd love to see that breakdown. Like what was the breakdown of 12,000 for Oh, i I remember my senior year college, and was studying Italian. We had to say what we had for breakfast.
00:13:18
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And was like, well, you know i had these six eggs and then I had these four pancakes and I had these two bowls of cereal. And they're like, oh, my God. i was like, I'm not even halfway through. what are you talking about? I kept going. in like and And I'm in class eating muffins because I had eat muffins before practice and had breakfast and then had this because I couldn't possibly make it to lunch without eating more in between.
00:13:37
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um It was it was a lot. Now, I borderline want to ask you to say all of that in Italian, but I won't put you on this my podcast. I was doing it all in Italian back then. And then ah that summer ended up traveling in Spain and Italy. I got very confused back because I had studied Spanish for years.
00:13:54
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And it was like going back and forth was hard. Yeah, but that makes sense on on the fueling. I have a question on the fitness side back in recovery and how that feeds in. So, you know, there's question.
00:14:09
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camp of overtrained, you need to rest more, and others saying, hey, you couldn't possibly over be overtrained. The average person can't look at these professional athletes, how hard they train. And I was trying to reconcile this for a long time in my head, and then i realized, wait, like LeBron gets like 12 hours of sleep a day.
00:14:27
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he Recovery is his job. he can he puts He spends millions of dollars in his cold plunges and all the different things. So yes, he's not overtrained because he has the right recovery for what his training load is.
00:14:38
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And so maybe we're not overtrained on what the peak body of ours could do, but in terms of the recovery we're able to give ourselves, we are overtrained. So how, for yourself and or working with clients, do you think of that sleep and recovery side of the equation when you're thinking about how much and how you move your body?
00:15:00
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And we're birds of a feather because LeBron was going to be my go-to example too, which is like, you know, like truly like before a playoff game, you're not seeing him over training. You're seeing him like taking the necessary pause that allows him to go hard.
00:15:15
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And I want to say like, if anybody's listening and they're thinking, well, I'm not necessarily an athlete, let me be so clear. This applies to the workplace too. Right? So like how you sleep the day before a big meeting actually does impact your recall. Like, you know, we talked about our prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for all our executive function.
00:15:33
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Sleep is vital for your prefrontal cortex. So if you do have a big presentation, if you do have a big conversation coming up, actually recovery is part of how you're going to perform the next day.
00:15:46
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You asked specifically about fitness, but I can't help but link these two things together since like the work that we do at Diligence is really around helping employees broadly think about performance. Recovery in life matters.
00:16:00
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It supports... when you want to go hard. So coming back to this example of of fitness, it is part of the cycle. And if you're the type of person that goes to a group fitness class and you run out right after the stretch, I want to highlight the stretch.
00:16:14
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That's actually part of the workout. Like think about it as actually part of the entire circle, which is you're preparing your body for the future work that it needs to do. we talk about sleep, we think it's a passive process and it's not.
00:16:28
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Your body's recovering itself. It's healing itself. It's clearing out waste. So as opposed to thinking about performance and recovery in all senses, fitness, work, other things that are important to you as things that are divorced, actually very much they'll think about these things as they go handin hand in hand. They're part of the process. They reinforce each other.
00:16:50
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I mean, and expand it beyond just the big presentation, the big meeting. I mean, we know from Daylight Savings, right The number of cardiovascular events that go up or down depending on which way we go on sleep. The IQ, how it adjusts by several points. So it's whether it's a big meeting or not, I mean, do you want to be stupider than you are normally on any given day? Like your your IQ literally is lower when you're not getting to sleep. Or increase in the car accidents, right? Like you're you're putting yourself and others on the road at risk at a certain percent when you have sleep deprivation.
00:17:25
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so I don't have the exact stat, but there's a stat that says that like not getting sleep is just as bad as drunk driving. right And people read these things and go, huh, and then move on to the next.
00:17:36
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And then you know anytime I meet somebody that says, oh, I get by just fine on three to four hours of sleep, I just immediately go, but have you ever consistently gotten seven to eight and seen how you think and how you feel on seven to eight?
00:17:50
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Because I bet it's a world of difference. This is a truth across all five pillars, whether it's moving your body, it's fueling your body, it's sleep, every single one, in that people say, oh, I'm fine.
00:18:01
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right like i Because it's the world they live in. It happens slowly. right they They don't feel like they did when they were six, but they feel like now that they're 46, however they feel, and it happens slowly, and this is what normal is.
00:18:12
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Then all of a sudden, you start putting them on a plant-forward diet. They're eating lots of plants. versus processed stuff. Like, oh, you know what? Like my knees and ankles don't hurt when I step out of bed in the morning. Like this this feels different. This feels better. Oh, wow. my i When I move, it it doesn't hurt. And all these things, it's possible now, but you you just think whatever your baseline is of like, hey, I'm fine. There's this whole different world on optimization. I realize for a lot of people that can get ah bit pejorative or have a negative connotation,
00:18:46
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on optimize. Hey, I don't want to optimize my life. I just want to live it. Like, well, do you though? Like you could have these vibrant, amazing days Yes. And like you're speaking to so much of what I care about where I think so many people just get through their lives surviving is get through their lives being like, I'm fine or I'm okay.
00:19:05
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And like, we're just going to point to the name of the podcast, like home of the hell spin when you're living or we have the opportunity to live into your seventies, eighties, nineties, maybe a hundred. It's not just about getting to the number.
00:19:17
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Can you get there with joy? Can you get there feeling filled up, like lit up on a regular day, engaged with everything that you're doing? And the difference are these little tweaks.
00:19:29
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And if you don't like the word optimize, fine, pick tweak, pick small adjustment. But even what you're talking about, like this element of like making tweaks to your diet, thinking about getting more healthy vegetables into your life, moving in whatever ways that bring you joy.
Lifestyle Changes for Enhanced Well-being
00:19:44
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They aren't like crazy shifts, but they're little things that unlock these big leaps so that when we're talking about living long, living well, it's not just fine.
00:19:57
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It's rich. It's full. It's enjoyable. And I think everybody deserves that. Yeah. And I think that's what a lot of people have miss too, because you mentioned the 70s, 80s, whatever. they're like, well, I'll worry about that when I get there.
00:20:10
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But it impacts today. like i think that's what a lot of people don't realize is how much better they can feel today. having just Working with the people I've been working with since starting Alively seeing within weeks, they're Oh my God.
00:20:26
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Like actually I actually, thought i wouldn't like this kind of food, this fresh plants, fresh animal, whatever, instead of all the processed junk I was eating. But actually really liked the taste. Like this is actually pretty delicious. And you know what?
00:20:38
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I feel so much better. Like I didn't realize because that's how I always felt, but I feel so much better. Oh wow. When I move my body, I don't wake up sore. i actually have more energy when I expend more energy. Like how is that possible?
00:20:51
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All these things and sleep. Oh, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. And then all of a sudden getting eight hours in. whoa, you know, I'm a different person. It's just... And seeing how interconnected all of all of these things are, like they're not separate, like they become a comprehensive part of how you operate.
00:21:10
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So it's it's not just saying I'm a different person. You actually are. you actually are operating differently. You are thinking differently. and You're opening up your world to see things that you probably couldn't see because you weren't living...
00:21:24
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to your full potential, which yeah i think again, like it is about how you feel today, but I'm also somebody that tries not to live with regret and I don't want regret for other people.
00:21:35
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And when I hear people say things along the lines of, wow, I wish I knew this stuff earlier, or they have the major life event and they're going, oh wow, these were the little things that wish that I'd harnessed in my twenties and my thirties.
00:21:51
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If, you have the opportunity to prevent that life event as best as you can, genetic risk factors aside. Yeah. To realize that you can gain 20 years as opposed to looking back and realizing you lost time.
00:22:07
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Just make the shift. It's totally worth it. It's truly worth it. It's worth your time. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a truism in everything, right? the good I think it's old Chinese proverb, the best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago. The second best time is today.
00:22:20
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And so whatever it is, like the best time to... eat better or move better, all this was a while ago. But you know, the second best time right now. and and And not tomorrow, but literally right now. but Well, I just had this junk for breakfast. Like, okay, but you don't have to for lunch. You can start now. Like, you don't need to wait till tomorrow.
00:22:38
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Like, today is not gone. Every single moment is an opportunity to invest in yourself. Correct. i mean, it's I remember being on a call with someone who, again, she's amazing beyond measure. And like when it comes to her professional life has accomplished so much.
00:22:56
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We started the call and she was really down. And the reason she was down was she has been changing some, making some tweaks to her diet. And she's like, I ate a donut and I just like totally effed up the rest of my day. And I was like, it's 10 a.m.
00:23:10
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but but What will you be doing the next 12 hours of the day of the day. we We have plenty of time us to change that. So, um, the sooner you can go, i can't do this, but I can do this, or I did this, but you know what?
00:23:24
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Now I can make this next step. That mindset shift is just so powerful and it gives you your time and your energy back. And you spend less time thinking in the negative space about things that you can't get back, but the future way ahead of you.
00:23:39
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I'm living five hours in advance. It And I mean, I'd love to dig more on this mindset and how you work with clients there, because, you know, whether it's in sports, right? You miss a putt, you miss a shot. You say, OK, like I can harbor that and and let it impact the rest of the game.
00:23:55
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Or i did that. Now let me get back to it. I messed up a trade. And so now it's I'm just spinning out and i do a bunch of other bad trades or I put that aside, learn and move forward. it's the same with any decision we make at any point. Like, OK, that was one thing.
00:24:09
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Do I learn something different right now that I can change? So you have any kind of structured practices that you put in place around mindset, around stress management to to notice those things and and change going forward?
00:24:22
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Yeah, it's it's funny. Before I so started diligence, when I talked about working on the trading floor, very quickly, when you're in a high pressure environment, where again, in this world where I was living in ah currencies, and when somebody says we're dealing with a buck, a buck in my world meant a million dollars, right? So a buck is small change.
00:24:42
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Very quickly, you have to be able to cut through the noise, cut through the loud voices. And then if something is going down, here are the two quick questions. Did I lose money?
00:24:53
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Is anybody dead? As long as the answer to both of those things are no, great. There's a solution. There is a way to understand, okay, this is what went down. This is what I need to do next.
00:25:04
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Because the error or the mistake, assuming that no i'll the answer to both of the questions are no, is this much. The time ahead of you to do good, to make an impact, to to actually like reclaim whatever that mistake was, way, way longer.
00:25:22
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As long as you can go, okay, this is what happened. This is what I need to do next. This is what I need to understand so i do not do it again. And you move forward and you keep sharpening your game.
00:25:34
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And I kind of want to go back to like this LeBron example, right? Like LeBron doesn't have a perfect game, right? and they get Every single time. That's not the case. But why is he in the gym training?
00:25:45
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Why does he keep sharpening his game? Because there's always something that you can tweak. There's always something you can learn. There's always something that's going to help you to continue to be your best. So it's okay to acknowledge that things happened. And in fact, it's a necessary part of life.
00:26:01
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But the unlock is how quickly can you go from the fact that it happened and take the next best step that you can. So that way you're actually moving towards who you're supposed to be or accomplishing whatever you're supposed to be accomplishing work-wise, life-wise, fitness-wise. Yeah.
00:26:17
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And I mean, talking about that, accomplishing the next thing. I mean, I'd love to get into your journey, your why, your purpose as you made this shift.
00:26:29
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and And think about social connection purpose. We have the whole health side that can be very internally focused. But there's a whole part of what we then put out and contribute to the world. yeah And i think you were experiencing something, saw something.
00:26:43
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You said, hey, there's a need here. Let me go start to to fill and serve that. Yeah, so I'll say the the two things that Diligence does today is on one half, we do programming. We particularly work in off-sites or think lunch and learns, new hire orientations to help people understand what should peak performance look like in your workday.
00:27:03
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And the second piece we'll do is lots of organizations have incredible benefits. and Employees want to use their benefits. We make sure that they're being communicated in ways that engage, retain, and are well-communicated with talent.
00:27:15
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I built a company that I definitely know that I would have loved to have while was working in those 90 hour weeks, understanding how do I make sure that I'm regularly being well-being into my life?
00:27:26
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And how am i making sure that it's being communicated to me about what matters? Like if I'm somebody who cares about fitness, how do I make sure that I know that I have these fitness benefits available to me? For me, the reason why I business finance, despite the fact that there's certainly a a steady career, there's some level of certainty to it, right?
Integrating Wellness into Work Life
00:27:48
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ah Both financially in terms of a career path was um understanding that I discovered this in my life.
00:27:58
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But everybody in a workplace deserves to thrive. Everybody deserves to have the tools that they need to live well. And even after I left finance and the next step was working in a variety of incredible corporate health and fitness organizations was realizing I'm not done until I've had the opportunity to create something that plugs back into the future of work exactly what I wish I'd had. had So diligence has actually been this a culmination in realizing how can I take this full journey of working in a space environments, actually having the opportunity to work in some of the best fitness organizations in the planet and then make it so employees and organizations large and small can harness their own well-being in ways that both serves their organization, but most importantly serves themselves, serves their communities and allows them to live well and long.
00:28:50
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Yeah, that's amazing. It's very needed. it's I think, being, and you tell me if I'm wrong, better received with every passing year as people recognize the importance, the cascading benefits of it.
00:29:05
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For someone listening to this who says, yes, I want that, how can they find you, follow you engage with you?
Connecting with Guest's Services
00:29:12
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Yeah. So I would say our website is diligence.com. And if you have an offsite coming up or you want to do a team building exercise or a lunch and learn, that's a perfect place for us to come in and and start our engagement with you.
00:29:25
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If you just did your employee engagement survey and you're starting to think through how you can better support your workforce, once again, reach out. Diligence.com is the easiest place. We have a free newsletter that is always going to be free.
00:29:36
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ah Health education and health equity is incredibly important to me and why I started this business. So for free health and habits, you can always subscribe to our newsletter, The C-Suite Workout. And follow me on LinkedIn.
00:29:49
Speaker
Always posting fun things here. Well, Dylan, it was a pleasure to catch up with you. I appreciate you coming back from the future to come today with us. And i look forward to you know continuing the conversation offline and working together in the future. So thank you.
00:30:04
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If you can't tell, if you weren't watching this, I was smiling so much throughout this conversation. so it was truly a joy and a delight to be five hours behind with you. Thank you for joining us on today's episode of the Home of Healthspan podcast.
00:30:18
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And remember, you can always find the products, practices, and routines mentioned by today's guests, as well as many other healthspan role models on Alively.com. Enjoy a lively day.