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Postgame Live: Fans react to Seattle Sounders EMBARRASSING 3-1 loss to Inter Miami!
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We react and take calls following Seattle's Leagues Cup 2025 final rematch at Inter Miami CF.
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Episode Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
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00:00:22
Speaker
Well sir, we got a scorcher today. Gonna be a real scorcher today. What the scorcher today? Well it's gonna be a scorcher.
Match Overview: Seattle vs Inter-Miami
00:00:45
Speaker
Good evening, everybody. Welcome in to tonight's post-match live. The Seattle Sounders went down to Fort Lauderdale for a rematch with Inter-Miami, Lionel Messi, and the Barca boys.
00:00:58
Speaker
And they just took 3-1 uh,
00:01:02
Speaker
not the ah Not the greatest bounce back from the end of that LA Galaxy game. You've now got a ah got you've got dropped points at the end of a league match against the l LA Galaxy and a 3-1 L to Inter-Miami. We're here to cope. We're here to rationalize.
00:01:19
Speaker
ah We've got the presser pulled up, and it looks like that's going to start shortly here. But ah I guess until then, Noah, how are you feeling, and ah why are you wearing that? Leo Messi, I got a question for you.
00:01:32
Speaker
Will you join the Seattle Sounders? Would you be interested in joining the Seattle Sounders? ah You know, obviously I'm wearing my club's colors ah with with this a very official ah quality Inter-Miami kit.
00:01:47
Speaker
Yeah, this is already getting well-received. Yeah, this is really how I feel about it.
00:01:56
Speaker
Ah, it's infecting me. Get it off. It won't actually rip. I'm sorry, guys. Oh, that's, yeah. Wearing the one that we got to try and trade in for ah Paul Rothrock jersey. That's nasty work. There you go.
00:02:11
Speaker
There you go. i think ah I think you made it further than the ah last time that you did this bit. so It wasn't even that good of a bit this time. so i mean, it wasn't that good dog game. thought that jersey would rip a little easier.
00:02:25
Speaker
Yeah, i thought I actually thought you were going to be able to do the i should have cut maneuver with that.
Initial Reactions and Lineup Discussion
00:02:30
Speaker
yeah ah I mean, I guess we should probably wait until the presser is over to like dive into our full takeaways. But ah just your initial mood, vibe, how how are you feeling after? We haven't done a lot of L shows lately. Really, the only L show we've done since Club World Cup was the Minnesota game. So it's kind of not been familiar territory lately. How are ah how are you taking it? how are you holding up?
00:02:54
Speaker
It was definitely the worst Sounders match that I've watched this season. It looked like team... No, disagree, disagree. San Diego away, or even St. Louis away, I would put above that.
00:03:06
Speaker
They at least scored a goal in this game. They least scored a goal in this game and had points the game where they were playing okay. Those games were way worse. I think it was just the fact that You came into this game kind of knowing and hoping that they wouldn't be asleep at the
Concerns About Team Performance
00:03:22
Speaker
wheel.
00:03:22
Speaker
And yet that's kind of what felt like happened just just in the form that they've been in. Like that San Diego game. I don't know. It just there was just so many individually awful performances.
00:03:33
Speaker
I guess I would group it with those two games. It's in that it's in that that category of like, if we're gonna if you want to drop your hand into the bucket and pull out one of those games and say it's the worst, I'm like cool with any of those. you don't you don't want it That's not the company that you want to be keeping.
00:03:49
Speaker
And I also thought, honestly, Brian Schmetzer... Yeah, we're going to talk about the lineup. We're going talk about the lineup, and we're going to talk about the concessions, and we're going to get into all of it.
Player Rotation Debate
00:04:03
Speaker
I do want to hear what Schmetz has to say about that. We'll also get Jordan Morris and Obed Vargas.
00:04:10
Speaker
Oh, is that who's talking? Who will be, yeah. Sick. All right, that's pretty good... Post game. Yeah, they didn't roll out Christian. I guess ah my initial thoughts on the lineup were um I actually i supported most all of the rotation that was done.
00:04:30
Speaker
But, you know, we've talked ad nauseum on this show this year. about the double pivot, if it's playing too many minutes, if it's going to catch up to them, ah if they are at risk of like running these guys into the ground.
00:04:42
Speaker
And honestly, I've, I've kind of come off that, or at least feeling that passionate about it because the way I see it is if, uh, If you're playing at the level that they've been playing at since club world cup, and you're still taking the results and no one's level is dropping off.
00:04:58
Speaker
Then i then far be it for me to, uh, get to bent out of shape, out of rotation. That's like, would be designed to prevent drop in form that isn't happening. However, in this specific situation, I think it has to be talked about again, because, ah if you are, if you rotated the lineup as much as you did,
00:05:19
Speaker
Anyway, then this would have been a good opportunity to give Christian specifically, I think, a rest. And like Snyder B, I know it's kind of maybe a tough mental hurdle to get over of like starting Snyder B on the road against Messi and the Barca boys, but he subbed on and he looked great.
00:05:36
Speaker
like He had one bad giveaway. he had one bad giveaway. But other than that, I thought Snyder B was looking was looking really good out there. So like that's where I'm like, man, just start him from the beginning. you know like that' That was the one thing where i really that I didn't like about the lineup. And and I think that kind of got underscored by Christian had, I think, five giveaways in this game. Oh, it was bad.
00:05:57
Speaker
It bad. Yeah, and there's these are like... giveaways that he never makes unless he's fatigued. Like the only time we see him make mistakes like that is when he's fatigued. So, well, it was interesting. I mean, quibble with the lineup. Did you have any the other? No, I am. I'm very much in agreeance with that. And
Team Miscommunication and Defensive Errors
00:06:14
Speaker
i I posted on blue sky said Christian rolled on looks like what a USMNT fan says. Christian rolled on plays like, like he was playing like a USMNT crash out bot.
00:06:26
Speaker
Says that he plays like like it was bad like it was dangerous giveaways and just Bad giveaway that led to the first goal. And really, we shouldn't just single him out because there were so many bad giveaways from so many different guys. I thought, i thought again, that's like... had a really bad first half. I thought Nuhu had a really bad game. I thought ah Yamar had a pretty bad game. I thought KKR had a really bad first half.
00:06:52
Speaker
I thought that... ah I thought KKR had probably his worst game I've seen. Rothrock wasn't playing well. Rothrock's giveaway led to that second goal. The whole squad looked... Just not good tonight. It looked like a squad who was playing on short rest with heavy legs, who had just played this team and on a shit pitch, thousands and thousands of miles away from home.
00:07:17
Speaker
And the other team was out for blood and had Leo Messi. That's what it looked like.
Impact of Travel and Fatigue
00:07:23
Speaker
Yeah. And which that, uh, that in isolation, you know, the final results of the game for me, uh, it's like, whatever I kind of, I had a bad feeling before this game started. Like I was, I was just feeling like this is lining up to be an L. So, uh,
00:07:40
Speaker
From that standpoint, like it's not shocking, and I think that it's it's not <unk> it's one of those results that does happen over the course of an MLS season to pretty much every team.
00:07:51
Speaker
ah But what I am concerned about coming off this game is just, you know, we've talked about this... notion of the league's cup hangover or really just like any hangover when you're coming off a tournament of uh that high intensity where you make a super deep deep run and in this case win it it's not like always a given that you're going to be able to maintain the requisite intensity and energy game in game out i thought in the first half they looked like a team that was not playing it really anywhere near the energy and intensity we've seen in all of these games pretty much since i was was yelling at the tv
00:08:26
Speaker
i was yelling at the tv Press! Press! Press! I felt like I was Brian Schmetzer out there. Like, it was it insane. What were they doing? Especially in that second half.
00:08:37
Speaker
It was like Jordan Morris was walking the entire time. Sir, I love you. You're not messy. You gotta have a little hustle. I mean... Like in these circumstances on a road game, cross country road trip, if you're not like busting at fully breakneck 110% intensity for all 90 minutes, that is one thing, but I think the totality of kinda how flat they looked in the first half, how that Galaxy game ended,
00:09:05
Speaker
It has me ah like preliminarily concerned that a little a hangover situation that we've been worried about might be taking place. Like it's giving me 2022 vibes. And that was that was the performance of a team that is being afflicted by that type of thing.
00:09:20
Speaker
To me, just the the lack of energy, of intensity and the kind of the giveaways that are uncharacteristic of this team. And just that's like stuff that happens when you're when your head's just like not fully in the game.
00:09:34
Speaker
So. I'm going to wait and see a few more games before I declare them hungover. But I am... They're on Hangover number Watch, Ari. They're on Hangover Watch. If I have a number one concern coming off of this game, it's that they looked a little they looked a little hungover. They looked a little hungover at the end of the Galaxy game.
00:09:54
Speaker
So... Hangover Watch is going to have to be... ah Who could be a good sponsor for that? Like ah Liquid IV. They should hit us up. Yeah, exactly.
00:10:05
Speaker
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Press Conference Anticipation
00:10:11
Speaker
Hangover Watch, I think, officially. And we'll see. like yeah This was always... I know it might not have felt like it because of what Seattle just did to this team in the League's Cup Final.
00:10:21
Speaker
This was always going to be one of the highest degree of difficulty games of the year, no matter what. Like, I know how thin their bench was. They had a bunch of guys suspended and stuff. I mean, you're still playing. I mean, these guys are some of the literal greatest players of all time at their respective positions.
00:10:36
Speaker
And Lionel Messi is literally the greatest player of all time. And you're doing a cross-country road trip. So it was always going to be. but Thank you both very much for your time. We'll get going immediately if that's all right with you guys.
00:10:48
Speaker
We're going to start with Jeremiah O'Shans. Yeah, I guess for Obed, what would you say ah the biggest difference in this game was as opposed to the the last time you guys played them?
00:11:02
Speaker
The biggest difference, I think, I mean, we gave we gave away two goals earlier up early in the game and a team with that quality is going to punish you and then you you're going against the current the rest of the game. and it's tough and stop playing away from home, especially when you give easy goals away.
00:11:22
Speaker
But it's something we have to learn learn from and move on.
00:11:28
Speaker
All right, next question, we'll go to Jada Evans. Jada, go ahead and ask your question, please. Thanks. um Ovid, also, do you feel how much do you feel that like change in line of things like that factored into what you guys were able weren't able to do tonight?
00:11:46
Speaker
I don't think it was a because of a lineup change or anything.
00:11:52
Speaker
Like i said everyone everyone this year has chipped in. One of the strengths of our team is that we have a very deep squad. We have guys that will come in and do the job. And so whatever lineup coach decides to put out should be ready for the game. And I think that has been hasn't true for most of the season.
00:12:12
Speaker
And it looked ah like, well, the camera showed you and Messi having a long conversation going into the half. Can you share anything about what that was, what was said?
00:12:24
Speaker
mean, he was talking about the last game, but all I can say is, you know, whatever is said between players stays on the field and everything was positive.
00:12:34
Speaker
All right, next question, we'll go to George. You should be able to ask your question. Go for it, George.
00:12:41
Speaker
Hey, ah so, Obed, I wanted to know if scoring more goals is something that you want to like do more as part of your game now that you scored the one goal. And also, but what restaurant are you going to take the guy next to you to thank him for his assist?
00:13:00
Speaker
And Jordan, I wanted to know and how you are feeling physically and what do you think you you need to do to get into the World Cup next year.
00:13:13
Speaker
Um, yeah, I think who doesn't want to score more goals. I think everyone wants to score goals. Definitely was the goal and going into the season. I still think there's more, more in me, uh, more, more goals out of me.
00:13:29
Speaker
Um, and I think in that, that play Jordan did, did really well to, you know, sneak the ball behind the defender and leave me basically one-on-one with the goal.
00:13:41
Speaker
Yeah, I'm feeling good. Obviously, it's been a been a rough season for me personally with all these injuries, but it's great to be back on the field.
00:13:54
Speaker
you The shoulder shoulder feels good. ah guys The support staff here has done a great job getting me fit and ready to go. Obviously, still need to get the sharpness up, get the game fitness up.
00:14:08
Speaker
It's been on the field. long time, obviously a lot of stopping and starting this year. So I need to kind of get that sharpness back a lot of that kind of training, but you know, progressing from the last game to this game, I felt better, felt more confident. So just gotta keep going with that and kind of build into the ah most important time of the year with the playoffs coming. and And then, yeah, for me personally, obviously it's a goal to try to get back with the national team.
00:14:33
Speaker
Part of the reason that this kind year was so tough mentally is I thought maybe if I kept playing like I did last year, potentially that chance would have been there for me and, you know, would have tried to prove myself to the new coaching staff. But all I can do is go out, work hard, try to do my best in the remaining games this year. And something happens and I get that opportunity, that's amazing. But my focus is obviously here in Seattle and helping the team win another trophy this year.
00:15:02
Speaker
All right, Jeremiah, we'll go back to you. Yeah, ah one for Jordan. What do you think you guys have to do to to keep this? you know, you guys have been on such a good run ah since the Club World Cup.
00:15:13
Speaker
ah This is the first time you guys have gone too straight without a win since then. is there any, I mean, how what does this do in terms of making sure you guys get back on the right track against Austin? And and how do you how do you kind of treat this next week where you're only going to have really one real training session, I think?
00:15:31
Speaker
Yeah, think it resets the focus a little bit. Like you said, you know, I haven't been playing, but it's the team has done so well since the club broke up. think they said it was the second loss since the club broke up. And so we felt like we gave the game away against LA. So we kind of put that behind us. This is always going to be tough place to come play. Like I said, when they score two goals early and traveling across the country and playing in the heat, obviously no excuses, but it's always going to be, it's going to be tough. You saw when they came to us, it's hard to play on the road.
00:16:01
Speaker
We knew this game was going to be going to be tough. got to learn from it and and push past it. But I think going into so the playoffs, it's good to have moments like this where you kind of have to reset your focus and and understand that we have really challenging games going up away in Austin, you know, Vancouver at home, Moose Fly, and Portland at home.
00:16:19
Speaker
Really important games coming up to try to obviously secure, you know, top four and host those playoff games because we know important that is. But I think having a moment like this to learn from and good reset moment,
00:16:30
Speaker
It's going to be good for the group. And then Obed, real fast, what what's been the communication with like in terms of when you're supposed to report for Yeah,
00:16:42
Speaker
I think I'll leave that out to Schmetz to say. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say. All right,
Player and Coach Insights from Press Conference
00:16:52
Speaker
we'll go over to Felipe Makeda. Felipe, go ahead and ask your question, please.
00:16:59
Speaker
Thank you Alex. My question is for Ovet Vargas. Ovet, it's been a long time. Many matches have played. They had rest. But how do you see, personally, physically, how do you feel after the final of the league rest against LA they played
00:17:20
Speaker
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00:17:34
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00:18:03
Speaker
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00:18:15
Speaker
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00:18:40
Speaker
What was it like? What was the i think Jordan talked a little bit about it, but I mean, what was the experience like there? Yeah, it was it was you know obviously not great with the result, but yeah it's a like you said, it's a tough place to come play.
00:18:53
Speaker
um the The excitement and the fanfare obviously around Messi and the players they have, the energy is high at the stadium. The fans are into it. you can feel that when he's on the ball and stuff like that so they They push that team forward.
00:19:07
Speaker
Yeah, again, no excuses, but it's a hot, humid place to come play, and it's hard to win on the road in MLS, especially kind of like I said when we started the game, kind of out how we did. So it's always hard to chase from from behind. the longer that game goes 0-0, I think it's it's better for us. So, again, something we can we can learn from, but like I said, it's going to be a good experience for us to move forward due to the type of games we're going to see in the playoffs, so we've got to be ready to perform.
00:19:37
Speaker
All right, guys, thank you both very much for your time. We're going to leave it there. Safe travels on. Thank you.
00:19:43
Speaker
ah For media members on the call, head coach b Brian Schmetzer is next. but Please go ahead and hit that raise hand function button again for us if you are interested asking him a question. We'll get going.
00:19:54
Speaker
There we go. Sorry, guys.
00:19:59
Speaker
ah Jordan called it a reset moment. What do you think of that? Hopefully that's what it turns out to be. I think that's sort of how Paul Rothrock framed it after that San Diego debacle earlier this year. He kind of had a similar sentiment.
00:20:14
Speaker
So I like that spin. Reset moment. Let's reset. Everyone just recalibrate.
00:20:21
Speaker
I was ready to cook there, but sorry. and Alex, I'm just rearranging some chairs. Understood. Would you like an opener this evening? No.
00:20:32
Speaker
All right. thank you question We'll go straight to it. Jada, why don't you lead off for us? Thanks. Brian, this is the but second last from the from the Club World Cup.
00:20:45
Speaker
Do you feel that the team has taken a step back at all um you know from that that bite that you guys had earlier before the for the break and after the Leagues Cup?
00:20:57
Speaker
If you only lose two out of whatever it is, 16 games, I believe, something like that, 16, 17. If you only lose two, that's pretty good, Jada.
00:21:09
Speaker
So look, this is gonna be a hard, this was gonna be a hard place to play, even with what happened, you know, a couple of weeks ago up at our place, you know, they were obviously up for the game, but yeah at the end of the day, still proud of the team, they've, you know, competed,
00:21:29
Speaker
They didn't quit. They got a goal in a second half, had some half looks, half chances. ah So, no, I don't think it's a step back. I just think this was going to be a tough game, you know, as soon as we saw it on the schedule earlier this year.
00:21:47
Speaker
right, next question. We'll go over to Jeremiah. aye Yeah, you know, you you made ah few changes in this game. ah What did you, though, think of the players who – a short rest for you satisfy you know you pulled some of them early i assume that I was somewhat planned, but was what did you make of the of the performance of the guys who were playing on short rest. Chris Gabbard, Who in particular.
00:22:11
Speaker
Chris I mean Christian in particular looked like he was a little off from his his normal level. Chris Gabbard, anybody else.
00:22:22
Speaker
I mean, Yamar didn't look necessarily great either. i mean, there was a ah few guys who in the first half, it looked like some guys were a little looking a little slow and and not up to their normal play.
00:22:34
Speaker
Well, because of the dropping of a couple of points against the Galaxy, we need to take a little bit of a calculated risk and kind of mix the group maybe a little bit differently than I would have.
00:22:49
Speaker
look Christian you know everybody's going to say you know some tough giveaways and certainly the first goal came from you know Christian but again this is a team sport and we weren't in our structure uh knew who's too wide you know we didn't have anybody really in the right pocket we were kind of saying well at some point this one's going to be here and higher of the field another guy's going to rotate in there so i think i can own some of that uh you know as far as the overall tactics and getting the guys in the right spots to try and get some more possession that's what we needed in the first half but you know look i'm not going shy away from it christian you know wasn't you know wasn't his best match so tried to get him off you know there were some
00:23:42
Speaker
Again, calculated forty five forty five you know, and Jackson, Christian and his brother, but I elected to keep Christian in at 2-0 just for a few more minutes to see if we couldn't get the next goal.
00:23:56
Speaker
So lots of things go into that planning, Jeremiah, and then, you know, the game dictates what you're going to do with some of those substitutions as well.
00:24:08
Speaker
All right, George, over to you next. Michael Co-Chair Hennessey & Coach, lot is talked about in MLS about the playing surface, turfers versus grass. It seemed from the TV that the playing surface was not that good.
00:24:22
Speaker
What was your take on it? It's fine. It's Bermuda grass, but it rained heavily in the afternoon. mean, it looks like that. Guys, you know It's different for us, just like you know Miami lost two games, their last two games on
Lineup Changes and Young Players' Performance
00:24:38
Speaker
turf. I'm sure what you're used to, it takes a little bit to adjust and adapt, but the playing surface is fine.
00:24:49
Speaker
All right, Jay, did you have a follow-up?
00:24:52
Speaker
ah Yeah, um well first, Obed had said to, I guess, maybe talk to you as far as when he's going to leave for the U23s. Is there something that you can share there?
00:25:06
Speaker
Well, the official list hasn't come out from the Mexican Federation, so i can't comment on that until it's out there officially. So, you like to find If he, if he were well okay, fine.
00:25:18
Speaker
um I'll leave that at that. And then also, you know, like you said, with the, with the different, how much do you factor in though the different ways the lineup had to change and what, what and what you were able to, or weren't able to accomplish today?
00:25:36
Speaker
how factor I just think in the first half, we were a little too rushed, you know, We had two high energy guys on the right hand side in Paul and Kalani.
00:25:48
Speaker
We had a guy, Georgie, who loves to run at people. And then, you know, Saze earned this chance to see again against a good opponent to see if he could come back with another good performance.
00:26:01
Speaker
But they're all young and they they need a little bit more seasoning. And in some of those moments when we needed to be calmer with the ball, extend our possessions a little bit more in that first half,
00:26:12
Speaker
take some of the sting out of the game, you know, it just didn't manifest it like itself like that. So, you know, when we were able to get hold of the game, you know, obviously the scoreline dictated, you know, them sitting back a little bit and us having more possession of the ball. But, you know, that's the type of game you have to play against Miami.
00:26:34
Speaker
And we weren't able to accomplish that in the first half. And then did you see any spillover or anything like that um from the brawl or the way that things ended in Miami? Was that a topic or at all or approached at all from the No, no, I think I said this interiorly. I don't know if I said it exteriorly, but Jorge Moss came from down the sideline to personally congratulate me because he didn't see me after the game.
00:27:01
Speaker
Class individual, class act. Javier Marciarano, we had pleasant words before and after the game. It's all done and dusted. I think that was just one moment.
00:27:13
Speaker
And, you know, The first tackle that DePaul put on Obed, that was the message that they were sending. But Obed played through it. And you saw Obed, he's such a talented kid. He was running past some of their players. So, you know, they tried to send the message, but Obed didn't take the bait.
00:27:32
Speaker
All right, Felipe, over to you, please.
00:27:37
Speaker
Thank you Alex. Coach Graham, how can you assess the performance of Kalani Kosir-Rensi in today's game? he was He was okay in moments.
00:27:50
Speaker
I mean, look, he's got again, a ton of energy. He scored some big goals for us, but in these bigger games, you know, his experience level and thinking you know, thinking he needs to, you know, do a little bit better there. but overall he, you know, did the best he could and, you know, never quit, never gave up.
00:28:12
Speaker
So he was fine.
00:28:15
Speaker
All right, Jeremiah, did you have follow up still? Yeah. how How would you assess Steph's performance in this game? It's fine. I mean, he made some saves. He kept this in it because it could have been five or six.
00:28:29
Speaker
ah But, you know, the goals that we gave up, Jeremiah, they're tough. mean, that first ball that Christian gives away is 35 yards from goal and Alba's coming in one-on-one.
Goalkeeper and Defense Performance Review
00:28:42
Speaker
you know the next goal to give away out by the touchline and Messi's in at the back post. you know I can't fault him for that. And then the the corner kick, we're down a guy.
00:28:54
Speaker
i mean, Kim Kihee was off the field and normally Kim Kihee Jackson, they're in those spots. And so we were short there. So it was a little bit of a rough game for the entire squad.
00:29:09
Speaker
But Steph came out and made some saves. And you know look, even the angle he took for Alba's first goal, he had the proper angle. And the ball hit his foot, but it just went in. you know sometimes you Sometimes goalkeepers are going to make that foot safe.
00:29:24
Speaker
All right, George, why don't you have the last one? but Looking at the next game, can you share with us where you are thinking about in terms of lineup? Are you going to rotate? Are you going to go back to your...
00:29:38
Speaker
normal um starting 11. there's no normal starting 11 right now we're going to put the best team out there possible to beat austin and i have a very deep squad i'm very happy with the team we will come back it's a little bit of adversity ah but we're going to come back and have a strong performance against austin and then hopefully finish the year out with some good performances getting ready for the playoffs
00:30:09
Speaker
Thank you. Coach, thank you very much for your time. let you go. Stay travel some.
00:30:18
Speaker
What did you think of – he said the lineup decisions were a calculated risk because ah because of what happened in the l L.A. game, I think. isn't that what he said? and Like, because they dropped points in that game, they felt like they had to go for it a little more in this game. So they took a calculated risk, played some guys.
00:30:33
Speaker
i imagine Christian is in that category of a guy who might have been rotated out. I feel like he should. I mean, hindsight's 20-20. I feel like Christian should have gotten a breather anyway. Like, it would have been Snyder Brunel starting on the road against Inter-Miami and the Barca boys. is Yeah, this game was going to be really tough anyway. just Just let Snyder be cooked. That's the only issue I have.
00:30:56
Speaker
You're on mute. Chat, I think it's hard. Just like the tech, I think this is a hard decision when you're Brian Schmetzer because you're in a position where you need to win points. You have LAFC on your ass with Hunman Sun.
00:31:15
Speaker
And I'm sorry, that's scary. That's scary. That's scary hours. And so, yeah, you you drop a result against the, gal or you drop points against the Galaxy. You have to go on the hardest road trip of the year, hands down, praying to the Lord Almighty that you get one point out of that.
00:31:35
Speaker
I mean, you need as many points as you can get. And so I... it's hard to blame him when it's so clear how important Christian is to this team, but also like,
00:31:46
Speaker
From what I saw today, Obed played so much freer in the attack when Christian wasn't on the field. He seemed to take over Christian's position and really like dictate that tempo in the midfield a little bit more than he even does normally.
00:32:02
Speaker
Snyder Brunel, I thought, looked incredible. He had takeaways off Messi. He had takeaways off everyone. He looked confident. He looked like the the only person on the field for the second half who really wanted to win that game.
00:32:14
Speaker
I literally have, I have no hesitation or anxiety about Snyder Burnell starting these games at all. ah know i And I get that this was a uniquely and challenging situation to throw a young player out there who has pretty much no experience into.
00:32:31
Speaker
And also we are Monday morning quarterback. And now that we know how the game went. So I acknowledge that. I just feel like with how the first half played out and how Christian looked in the first half and then how Snyder looked after he came on, which I thought if I was going to give anyone like a positive mark for their performance in this game, he would be.
00:32:51
Speaker
he would be in there. He would be in there. Obed in the second half would be in there. And what did you think of Georgie? Cause I would put him in there, but ah some people Sounds like would not.
00:33:02
Speaker
I'm interested to hear the the Georgie didn't play well skepticism. I don't think it's just and it's an end product thing. Like everyone can see like the. But also everyone else looked gassed. You had Osaze who just wasn't getting in the right positions all night.
00:33:16
Speaker
Jordan didn't even look like he could run. Honestly, like I mean, he even alluded to it. He was like, my fitness isn't there yet. I think he played probably too long.
00:33:27
Speaker
Moose looked way more dangerous than either one of those two players. And I mean, there were multiple times where Georgie beats one guy, two guy, and then he's yeah his head he picks his head up and there's just, there's no one to play to.
00:33:40
Speaker
So it's like, it's ah it's kind of hard to like ah get mad at the guy when there's no target guy in the box. And that even comes down to like Rothrock. I mean, Rothrock looked,
00:33:52
Speaker
gas man. I mean, if you're going to compare Georgie to anyone, you've got to compare him to Rothrock, right? Both the wingers, obviously they bring different things, but they're both engines. Rothrock looked, this was, this is, it was not a good game for him. It wasn't, it wasn't.
00:34:07
Speaker
And Georgie looked night and day better. And I think one Rothrock has been playing a lot and it's just, it's just, yeah. Like I,
00:34:17
Speaker
I don't know. Georgie was also getting back on defense. Georgie was, you know, drawing fouls and aggravating, ah just absolutely owning Ian Frey the entire time.
00:34:29
Speaker
I don't know how you he was the only one. He was the only one who was making stuff happen. I thought in the, yeah, in the first half. And like, it is, it's fun to watch him. Like when, when he has ah one V one, it's just like over, like he's getting around that guy.
00:34:44
Speaker
So, uh, yeah, no, I thought, I thought Georgie was good. I thought Snyder B was good. Obed obviously gets the goal. Uh, I guess I'll stay on the positive train a little bit. yeah um the yeah The goal that Seattle did get, first of all, I guess it was good. I thought the response after 3-0, which you never want to have to respond from being down 3-0, but given that they did, i was i was more or less happy with the response in the sense that they got a goal back, and they were never, like, I never felt like it was...
00:35:13
Speaker
fully, fully, I felt like it was fully chalked after three zero, but when they got one back with that much time left, I was like, you know, you you at least start put yourself in a situation where if you get one more in this next period of time, then like push for a potential point here, even.
00:35:27
Speaker
So I think it was that, but like, well, I was going to say real quick, like the, the ah seeing Albert Rusnak hit Jordan Morris, like with through ball like that, and then have Jordan get an assist, like to, to bring that goal back. That gave me a little, a little juice. Like, obviously I was in a pretty bad mood watching that game, but when they got that goal, I was like, Oh hell yeah. Like it got me excited to like see Albert Rusnak and Jordan Morris back in the squad again, because they hadn't been on the field for that long. And they already combined, like we saw them do ah last year, they got a goal out of it.
00:36:02
Speaker
And, That kind of just reminded me, was like, oh yeah, these guys are coming back, getting integrated and we get to see what that looks like, which is exciting. So that's, that's something. No, I agree. I think that there's a lot to gain from that. And Jordan clearly brings something that no other player on this roster does. He's got that vision. He's got that touch.
00:36:23
Speaker
He can finish when he is in full fitness and form. And I'm like, I don't know the amount of chances that were generated. If you have a fully healthy Jordan Morris, I think you...
00:36:34
Speaker
that that could have been a different result. Like, I don't want to... yeah Obviously, you can say whatever you want and and, you know, say whatever, but it's like you are genuinely more dangerous in situations like this ah where you are kind of fatigued chasing a game when you have a striker like Jordan Morris or even a start striker like Moose. I mean, i don't know. I don't want to keep...
00:36:56
Speaker
you know, pounding on Osaze, but it's like, you know, he, he didn't have the best match. Uh, he was of that one off the post though. That was tough. Yeah. I mean, if that goes, if that goes in, that was even earlier in the first half and that, that could have, uh,
00:37:11
Speaker
Was with that when they were down 2-0? Oh, no. that They had just gone down three zero I think, when happened. so that was I'm interested to hear about how you thought Ferreira played in this match. Because I was a little bit frustrated. Not a little bit. I was pretty frustrated with him and his body language in the first half. But I thought that once he slotted over to the wing...
00:37:33
Speaker
ah He looked way better and he helped to make that goal happen with that with that press on the wing. And then after we talk about this, I want to talk about the press because it was fucking abysmal tonight.
Criticism of Pressing Effectiveness
00:37:44
Speaker
I didn't think Ferreira was terrible, but he wasn't he wasn't like the Ferreira, really, I don't think, that we saw in League's Cup.
00:37:53
Speaker
But, I mean, i thought he was all right in the sense that ah I thought the offense played okay tonight like for ah for a road game like this, like not but not close to the level that we have been seeing.
00:38:06
Speaker
ah But there were there were some really good chances there. The one that Osaze smashed off the post, ah there was that one late that Moose put on target. i think there's there's a couple other. Rothrock had one on target. roth rock The Rothrock one, that's the one I was thinking of.
00:38:22
Speaker
so And I thought Ferreira was part of that, um but it was not to the level that he has been playing at. I felt like he got in his head a little bit too in some moments in this game, especially with shots and whatnot. And the same with Jordan. Like I thought Jordan should have ripped a couple of shots there. And so that was the other one when he laid it off. Yeah. like what And that was, that was right after Obed scored or pretty close to after Obed scored. So if you get one there, then it's like your, your game's wide open. What game's wide open. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:55
Speaker
Yeah, and that leads to what I felt like was the most disappointing for me was the press tonight. And just like, it didn't... I understand it's short rest, and I'm sure that Schmetzer was like, listen, let's go like 85% tonight. You're also playing in 185% humidity Brian the grass fine, but one hundred and eighty five percent humidity in you know brians said the grass is fine but like The ball moves a lot slower.
00:39:20
Speaker
Everything slows down on that Bermuda wet Bermuda grass. Like that's just, you know, that's just tough, but oh my God. And that like from the 80th minute on, I'm like, why are you not pressing every single ball?
00:39:35
Speaker
This team will give you the ball. They will pass you the ball. If you press them, you have 20 more minutes. You got 10 minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes max. If you just press the shit out of them,
00:39:48
Speaker
you can you can You can force a goal. We see this all the time with Inter-Miami. They don't have a defense. They don't have a defense. Ian Frey is not a defender. he he he He's a traffic cone, okay? So if you can get around him, you can score.
00:40:01
Speaker
And I just felt like the press was so not up to what we've we've seen. And I thought that that... was Ferreira.
00:40:12
Speaker
I thought that was Rothrock. I thought that was Roldan to a point. ah like Even when some people came on, like Jordan for sure, Albert 100%.
00:40:24
Speaker
um The people who I would say did well is is I thought Snyder was pressing really well. This is where I don't understand where people can hate on Georgie. I thought he had an incredible game and I thought that he was locked the fuck in and was pushing every button that he could possibly push.
00:40:40
Speaker
Same with Obed. um Yeah, it just I don't know. For me, that was uncharacteristic. And it's like, why why in this match did we choose to, or maybe not choose to, but what what what happened?
00:40:56
Speaker
What was going on? i don't know if you noticed that. I mean, the press definitely was not nearly effective tonight as it has been lately. i think there's probably fatigue probably does play into that. It is easy for us to to sit here and say, why but but i why are you pressing in the 80th of a road match in Fort Lauderdale where it's probably 90 degrees. What are we talking about? but like i i mean ah but also i think we've also gotten used to in leagues cup they were pressing all out intensity 110 every minute of every game because they were in a tournament when you're in the grind of the season you can't really do that you you like you can't
00:41:36
Speaker
you're you're probably not going to be able to be in the 80th minute of a game like this, pressing as hard as you possibly can. Like they have been for every game over the last few weeks. But you have enough people on the bench to do that.
00:41:50
Speaker
They had a starting 11 on the bench to do that. I think that they should have done that. I hear what you're saying, and I agree that it's fatigue. But Albert Rusnak coming off the bench and not pressing or doing anything of that sort.
00:42:04
Speaker
Listen, I love that guy. I love him so much. And I defend him against the laziness allegations all the time. But that was that he had kind of a lazy performance. Jordan Morris, same thing. I don't know.
00:42:16
Speaker
i understand that you're coming back from injury and you're gassed, but brother, you've got you've got to put some pressure on the ball. You have to. You have to. Should we hit the super chats?
00:42:26
Speaker
Yeah, hit the super chats. ah Where's my mouse? ah First super chat here from Alex Manning. Annoying result, but unsurprising because of the travel and short rest. Time to reset and put in some good performances before the playoffs.
00:42:40
Speaker
Reset, reset. that's ah That was what Jordan said. That's what that's what we're going with. Yeah, I agree. I mean, that sucks, but put it in the bin. like you put where You put it in the... I have no problem coping and rationalizing by saying road games like this in MLS, are kind they're kind of part of the deal.
00:42:59
Speaker
And one thing one thing that's been so sick about this team lately is they kind of haven't been as beholden to that as... most MLS teams usually are like they've been able to ah show this crazy depth that allows them to maintain their level in adverse situations.
00:43:14
Speaker
But I can I can say throw this one in the bin. the The thing that I think that the concerning thing just as we sit here right now is the is hangover watch. Like, yeah will this fester and keep kind of dogging the league season and affect their ability to to get a top four spot, which is what they need to do right now?
00:43:32
Speaker
We ran a poll in the chat and I asked, are the Seattle Sounders hung over? 78% said yes. 21% said no. So Brian Schmetzer, there's some locker room ah bulletin board material for you. What was the poll?
00:43:46
Speaker
It was, are the Seattle Sounders hung over? 78% said yes. 21% said no. So it's a, that game felt like it.
00:43:57
Speaker
But I think it was giving me like, didn't it feel like the games after 2022? Yeah. That was the vibe. yeah i was but Yeah. And i think I think what's true and what I think when we remove ourselves a couple days from this will be like...
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah, that looked like a ah team that played a game, had like a half day of rest, and then immediately gone on a flight to fly to Miami and play a match. Like that, that's that that's that's just tough.
00:44:26
Speaker
That's just unlucky. its it was it was It was never going to be as easy as the last time those two teams played might have. that That was why going into the League's Cup final, I thought the scales were tilted way more towards Seattle than people were...
00:44:43
Speaker
were given credence to because they had to do that. Yeah. And they had the exact same results. So, like, it that that is how it goes sometimes to an extent. Well, and it's it's also to say, like, Inter-Miami was playing for everything. They are literally playing for everything right now. Like, they they need to... They're playing for Messi stay on the team.
00:45:03
Speaker
Yeah, that and also, like, you know, it's a get-back game for them. The Sounders, are it's not a get-back game for them. It's not. fuck, we got to play in Fort Lauderdale right now. um Anyway, like i don't i know that Brian Schmetzer would never admit that. I know that the players would probably never say that. But it it is a mental thing, and the travel is a mental thing, and it does it does affect you. So, yeah, you've got to reset.
00:45:28
Speaker
Go spank Austin. Go absolutely spank them. They do that. If they do that, that would That's a trash-ass team. They better spank them. They're a little better than they were, but they're um it's at home. it's ah Or is it on the road?
00:45:41
Speaker
It's on the road. It's on the road. It's on the road. and that's ah That's honestly not like a that you can It's a given that you're going to smash them. They've been playing a lot better.
00:45:52
Speaker
That's true. This next one here is from Jake. Jake says, it's a setup for MLS Cup Final. We're going to get another rematch of MLS Cup Final. Well, if it is, then the Sounders better start getting some points so they can play this game at home.
00:46:07
Speaker
Yeah, and that's kind of the issue. There's not really like, a there's not space in the standings to be able to withstand a hangover and keep a top four spot because of all the other points you've already dropped this year.
00:46:20
Speaker
So really, like, I mean, if this team doesn't, make an MLS cup run this year, it's going to be, it's going to be about way more other games than this game.
00:46:32
Speaker
Like there, I can name like four or five games where they could have taken at least one point or all three points and then drop it for a tie. Like, The Galaxy game is worse than this game to me. Oh, yeah.
00:46:43
Speaker
Yeah. Like, ar I know. are Not even close. I think that this goes like I even said it but Like when we started like this is probably the worst I've seen them play this season. Like I think they played terribly, but it's not the most offensive game to me.
00:46:58
Speaker
Like that Galaxy game is more offensive to me because of. who like just everything about it, like being at home, lose dropping points from being ahead. Like it's just all that all that's, that's so much more offensive than flying down to Miami and getting, you know, shit on after short rest with messy, you know, like that's, what are you gonna What are you going to do?
00:47:20
Speaker
Oh, um, should we drop the call again or, uh, yeah, let's do it. how you I'm getting hungry chat. So let's, let's make these calls. anyone wants
00:47:33
Speaker
Sick. Drop the call link in if you want to come come on the show. Drop some takes. Cope. Rationalize. Etc. Noah's going to drop it in right now. But yeah.
00:47:45
Speaker
Overall, not the rematch that the Seattle Sounders would have would have hoped for, but also, ah like you're saying, not the most shocking thing of all time. What did you think of Fry? There was some discourse going around on this as well.
00:48:02
Speaker
ah Yeah. but It started after the first goal, and to me, like, um I'm your goalkeeper is one-on-one with the greatest attacking fullback of all time.
Player Performance Highlights
00:48:15
Speaker
Like the issue is the giveaway that leads to that situation. No matter what happens with the goalkeeper, like that's how yeah it can be bad goalkeeping and also ah a bad giveaway.
00:48:27
Speaker
And like, you just don't want to put your defense or goalkeeper in that position. i don't, I don't know. I think it was an up-and-down game for Fry. i like I don't really have anything to say about it. I literally don't know what to say about it because it's it's just straight up like...
00:48:45
Speaker
up and down. There were lows. He looked like shit on some of those goals. He also stuffed Messi twice. Yeah, i mean exactly. it's like i think I don't know who posted it, but someone said like they posted two photos and it's it was the Argentina goalkeeper and Onana.
00:49:05
Speaker
and The first thing was like ah Fry trying to make an easy save and it was a picture of Onana and then it was like Fry making the highest level of difficulty save and it's like the argentina goalkeeper who's really good uh i can't remember his name but whoever tweeted that or posted that think it was leddy that was that was a good bit i kind of agree with that but uh kenny's in the kenny's here let's get kenny on the show you ready caller first caller of the night kenny's ready what up kenny what up kenny 3-1 at inter miami how are you feeling crash up or crash out
00:49:40
Speaker
i don't think that's a thing crash out uh i'm fine guys it's two revenge games and we've still outscored these guys what eight to two la galaxy we've outscored them aggregate and then it's four to three aggregate on miami plus a cup on their head obed got obed got his goal so i mean i guess he's good enough to leave mls now It looked like they squashed that. Did you guys catch that?
00:50:07
Speaker
Yeah. like think were They were chatting at halftime and Obed put his arm around him and it looked like they were yucking it up. And i'm sure I'm sure there's a bunch of people out there that are like, see, that proves that he didn't say that, whatever.
00:50:20
Speaker
i think that proves that he did say that. And that what it looked like to me is that Messi was like... but whatever it's ah it's a whatever man I didn't mean it like you're a baller oh fan and Obed was like don't worry about it like that's how I that's what I thought happened and then Obed after and what is said stays on the field this isn't confirmed but apparently knew who gave his jersey to Messi so yeah i know that I think I saw that the lion that's pretty fire that the lion and the goat I don't even want your kit I just want to give you mine so you remember me he didn't even
00:50:57
Speaker
I don't know. I don't think he did. I saw them. They were having some kind of interaction post-game. But I couldn't see if it was true. Yeah, I saw that.
00:51:09
Speaker
To Snyder B, dude. Snyder B locked him down. Yeah, let's hit some highs and lows. Let's hit some high and lows. You hit it. You drive. You drive, Kenny. Yeah, you're on Snyder B. Yeah, he led the the game in tackles. He had four tackles in his cameo.
00:51:25
Speaker
ah He was the second highest rated, tied second highest rated sounder with Georgie Manungu. Obed Vargas was the highest. These are all per FopMob. Take him with a grain of salt. Not always the most angry, but decent with MLS stuff.
00:51:37
Speaker
um Obed Vargas, he was really cooking in that second half, like you said, once Christian was out. I don't know if it had to do with Christian, but they were, I mean, you know, we're dead in the water. Someone's got to take it by the scruff of the neck, you know? Might as well be the 20-year-old Alaskan, Mexican, the Alaskan Messi. Yeah, I feel like he's kind of built for moments like these. The Alaskan Griezmann.
00:52:03
Speaker
He's tough. He's tough. He's tough. Georgie, I thought he he was similarly putting the game on his back, putting the whole team on his back, you know, taking his guy on. That's what he's going to do.
00:52:14
Speaker
The heat wasn't bothering him. I thought Osaze wasn't backing him up enough. It was some of those runs and using his body well in this kind of – in these harsh conditions.
00:52:26
Speaker
It takes that experience, I think, you know, to be a striker in these kind of conditions, short rest, to know how to use your body through all that heat and save yourself because you know you got somebody coming on for you.
00:52:38
Speaker
um Jesus, he was running, but um but with Osase out there, I think what was was really effective in the League's Cup was Jesus at times was triggering the press.
00:52:51
Speaker
He was triggering the press from that mid block. In this game, we were sat so deep. We were pinned so far back and our line was up. So it was like it was like a very it was a very narrow block that they had to play through and they were off running.
00:53:06
Speaker
They didn't have Suarez up top dragging them down as an anchor. They didn't have the anchor up there. um ah Let's go Paul Rothrock.
00:53:18
Speaker
prop possibly the worst half of his entire Sounders career. Yeah, probably. couple couple giveaways, especially the one for the second goal, you know.
00:53:29
Speaker
um But we've seen Georgie give away that exact same ball and get scored on earlier in this season from that right wing position. So I think that right wing is still pretty pretty much up for grabs.
00:53:43
Speaker
What do you think about... Maybe, but he was playing centrally today. When he has to play central, who's going to step up out there? I think Rothrock's tired, too. He might be third most minutes minutes on this team. What do you think about ah on that side?
00:53:58
Speaker
ah um KKR, obviously. Alex Roldan was missed tonight, it felt like. What I like about Nuhu and Alex Roldan is they have a certain level of steel.
00:54:10
Speaker
A certain level of steel. Like, Alex, he kind of can get caught napping at the back post or caught up field. Nuhu can crash out, can do some scary dribbling, but... Double foots tackle in the air, you know.
00:54:25
Speaker
Backflips. We can go on and on. um But our backup fullbacks have been kind of... um It's just those rookie moments. They need a little bit more sand in their pants, you know, to use the American football expression.
00:54:39
Speaker
You know, they they need ah they need to get their weight up. Get their weight up just a little bit. KKR, um he's got great athleticism and balance, especially when he's on the ball.
00:54:51
Speaker
And then um he was he was he was on the other side of Christian for the first goal, right? He was coming in from the left of Christian, little square pass in his own in his own ah in his own half.
00:55:04
Speaker
Christian gets kind of bullied off the ball. He's so tired, you know. But they had people swarming. They had people swarming. You can't – that's a hospital ball, you know, to borrow another American football phrase, you know.
00:55:16
Speaker
It's a hospital ball to him. So I didn't think ka KKR had a great game in this one, but he's had he's he's come through for us before, so I can understand – Brian wanted to bring that energy, but it just needs a little bit more better decision making and a little bit more intelligence.
00:55:34
Speaker
um Yamar had to put up with a lot coming down that right side. And Kim didn't cover himself in glory either. um ah thought he played worse than Yamar.
00:55:45
Speaker
Kim got stepped on and had to come off the field, and they got one of their goals. Yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah, they got one of their goals when Seattle was down a man because they were waiting for him to get let back on the field. That was frustrating. I'm not like... ah Dude broke his hand, and he's like, let me come back.
00:55:59
Speaker
And then they're like, no, you can't. Yeah, because there's like the two-minute rule or whatever. No, that was the third goal. but i'm not ah I'm not super aggrieved about that because Seattle got pretty lucky to not concede a couple other times in this game. They gave Messi the ball like for wide-ass open chances twice.
00:56:18
Speaker
Yeah. yeah and they okay He put one off the post and Fry saved the other. like yeah that is If you do that but now, and then going back to the Weeks Cup final, he missed a he missed a wide open one in that.
00:56:28
Speaker
They got three misses out of Messi that he just doesn't miss those. Yeah. like So they got... have big chance for this one. so They were giving up, yeah. They gave up too many big chances to be aggrieved that three of them counted, even though it was kind of annoying that it's like they wouldn't let Kim back on the field for the corner kick. And then, of course, of course they score on it. Of course they score on it. You already knew it was going to happen when the guy was lining up over it. Osase jumped on there. is Is that what happened? Osase had to step up and wasn't able to.
00:57:00
Speaker
I think was Kim who got mossed on that, was it not? I can't remember. and i don't remember. these will These things will come to light the highlights. What does Brian say? He's like, go'll watch ah I'll watch the film. We'll get back to you. we'll watch We'll watch the film on that one, Jada. But the guys, they came out there. They were good.
00:57:20
Speaker
They had an effort that was good. The fans are good. Jordan Morris has an assist. Oh, yeah. Jordan Morris. Welcome back, big guy.
00:57:32
Speaker
Jordan Morris, Albert Rusnak combined to set up a goal. that was that That was great to see. That was great. Yeah. just Well, let's just get Pedro back in the fold. What's going on with him? we need to.
00:57:43
Speaker
Oh, yeah. We haven't even talked about that. I keep hearing tendonitis, but what's going on with this cat? I don't know, but I'm. Craig Weibel flew down there to make best friends. They were butt buddies. No, don't know butt buddies, but they were best buddies down there.
00:57:58
Speaker
i'm ah i'm kind of I'm kind of worried about that. Like, he just doesn't even make – he doesn't play in the last game, doesn't even make the trip. They've been talking about tendonitis. He's the one that gets rest. He's the one that needs rest.
00:58:11
Speaker
I don't know, man. He should have been healthy playing central. Allow Ferreira out on the right. but It's concerning. I mean, he – Georgie played pretty well at that spot, but it's still you you want to have La Vega, you know, much more.
00:58:28
Speaker
He's been blazing hot, much more polished. Oh, one other thing I forgot to say, Paul Rothrock, he had a pretty good chance. Pretty good chance to look on goal with is just his pressing through the heat.
00:58:39
Speaker
You know, I think he might have known he was coming off because he's he on a lot of minutes, so they probably plan to take him on. That's probably plan to sell. But he he was also having a stinker. But I think on that chance, I could have been wrong but because I haven't seen the highlights, but it looked like he could have rolled it to the back post and Ferrer would have had a tap in. i think The one that Rochelle had to save?
00:59:02
Speaker
ah The one he had smothered. Yeah, he got smothered at the the half. leaning back on his side when he took that shot. i I saw that too. I think he probably would have wanted to get it there, but I think that he probably wouldn't have been able to even if he tried.
00:59:15
Speaker
The pitch was kind of shitty, wasn't it, guys? Looked bad. Hey, ah frank Frank McDonald, famous Sounders historian, was saying on Twitter um that ah on that very same grounds, in, I think, 1982, Brian Schmetzer played against Fort Lauderdale Strikers.
00:59:36
Speaker
That's crazy. but like You guys should get Frank on here. You should try and get Frank on here. legend That's a good shout. I've interviewed him before for like written stories, but I haven't had him on Lobbing Scorchers. I'll try and line that up.
00:59:48
Speaker
All right. You guys got anybody else? yeah we got Yeah, we got a couple in the queue. We're hungry. We're hungry. bye guys. Bye, Kenny. Later, Kenny. Thanks for calling. I'm hungry. i'm fading.
00:59:59
Speaker
It's only 7 o'clock. Get GBT in here. Get Caleb in here. let's All right, GBT. You ready? Let's go. What up? What's going on, man? How are you doing, man?
01:00:11
Speaker
Crash out, crash up. are you doing? 3-1 L out of Miami. I'm scared. I'm very scared because we need home field advantage to do anything in MLS Cup, and we have proven that.
01:00:22
Speaker
In the past, we would have beaten LA Galaxy to get to the final, and then we would have hosted that, and we would have won and MLS Cup last year if we did a little bit better in in the regular season.
01:00:34
Speaker
um I think we can take away three things from this game. Stephen Fry had a shocker on the second goal. Andrew Thomas would have saved that.
01:00:45
Speaker
Georgie Manungu needs to start every single game because he was the one player that was the most threatening.
Key Takeaways and Areas of Improvement
01:00:51
Speaker
he was even more threatening than Messi. I mean, you saw that as well every time he had the ball. And the third is we can't keep starting Vargas and Christian Roldan. They need rest.
01:01:02
Speaker
they They're looking tired. They need some rest, you know. But overall, it's it's a game that we can take a lot of things from and learn and move on. But it's a really, really...
01:01:14
Speaker
really messed up result that feels like it could have been a lot better. I thought it was it was a good game for your Georgie ah agenda. like I really felt like in ah in a first half, that that was among the most poor halves they played all season. He was the only like notable bright spot.
01:01:33
Speaker
So that was good to see. but yeah i mean like yeah what you're saying about home field advantage is real like if they don't get that then that's bad news and if they keep dropping points uh i like like no and i were talking about the galaxy game is the tilting one in this in this situation because yeah if you just hold on to that and take all three there this matters a little less but like because you dropped those points this is like uh it makes it even dicier i feel like osaze had so many chances again that he should have had and put in the back of the net. I feel like Osase could have ended the night with two or three goals, maybe maybe two. There were two very clear cut chances.
01:02:15
Speaker
ah I like the guy. i There's nothing I don't like about him except for how he plays. You know, he should have scored so many more goals this season for the chances that he's got.
01:02:29
Speaker
i just feel like we are struggling without Morris up top. unless Danny Mussovsky comes up big, you know, it's just, it's more of a clinicality issue than anything else up front because we're creating the chances, but we just don't have the talent without Morris to put them all away that, that we should have like, like back when Rui Diaz was playing, if we had Rui Diaz now, he would have like 30 goals a season. I swear with this, with the amount chances our strikers are getting, but it's just another big issue that, that we need to solve, you know?
01:03:02
Speaker
I mean, prime Ruiz Diaz would have, but not the last two seasons, Ruiz Diaz. He was not very good. No, Prime Ruiz Diaz, I mean, yeah. ah jordan's ah Jordan's coming back. What did you what did you think of the yeah the goal, the Obed goal?
01:03:17
Speaker
ae i'm I'm very happy with Morris because he he's a really good build-up player as well. ah That's something that you don't get with Osaze completely, and you especially don't get that with Danny Russovsky.
01:03:29
Speaker
Obed Vargas just does what he does, you know, always is in the right position at the right time in the right areas, playing the perfect passes. And again, he's been a thorn in the side, especially in the second half of Inter-Miami, and they were getting a little bit frustrated when he was on the ball.
01:03:45
Speaker
I feel like Snyder Brunel needs to start a bit more because he is sort of like a second Obed Vargas. um But i'm I'm very, very happy with how Vargas played in the second half. The first half was fucking abysmal.
01:03:58
Speaker
It was crazy. It was just, oh my God. I don't know. We couldn't get on the ball. And when we did, we just gave it away. The stupidest little things that we shouldn't have done. Yeah, they're like, hey, Messi, would you like the ball? I'd like ball to pass it to you. Do you want a one-on-one with our goalkeeper? Take it. He's washed.
01:04:18
Speaker
Messi's washed. He should have had three or four. He's so bad. He's literally, I would put him as one of the worst players on the field For Miami.
01:04:30
Speaker
For Miami, at least. I think you're coaching there. I don't know. Eden Frey exists. and And Noah Allen also exists. it's just cut It's just like you really don't see him miss these. It's it's just weird, honestly. Like, I thought i thought he kind of – yeah, I mean, he has 19 goals, 10 assists this year now. or so So he looked like a player that ah that's been, you know, tearing up the league. but Slowing down a bit, though.
01:04:58
Speaker
You just don't see him put that one off the post ever. You don't see him miss, but like get that other one against Fry saved ever. It's interesting. lot Last thing I want to say is I've always thought Jordy Alba has been a better signing for than Messi because he he's been able to score 10 goals a season, assist most of Messi's goals, and Miami just look terrible without him, you know?
01:05:25
Speaker
he's He's the engine. he It should have been Busquets who is the engine for for this team, but it really seems like Jordi Alba brings it all together, and he's the real issue that that we need to start taking into consideration if we face them again in the final, if if we make it that far in MLS Cup, which a lot of people still think we will, but I don't know without home field advantage.
01:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, it can be easy to overlook that ah one of the Barca boys is the literal greatest attacking fullback to ever play the game. And you kind of saw that ah in this game, the assist that Jordi Alba got on Messi's goal. minister I that was a class assist. I can't really say much about that.
01:06:08
Speaker
100%. I have to go, but have an absolutely wonderful stream. I love you guys so much. Thanks, Tribe. Appreciate you, man. All right. We got one Super Chat, and then we'll hit Caleb. Oh, that's the wrong thing.
01:06:20
Speaker
Pay Obed. We will take this money, and we'll put it in our own pockets, and we will we will lobby. Every Super Chat will go to Obed's contract. No, every Super Chat will go to our pockets, which we will lobby the Sounders to sign okay him on a contract. we're Yeah, we're lobbyists.
01:06:38
Speaker
That's our job. We lobbied the Sounders to play Paul Rothrock. It worked. We'll lobby them to do this a thing. And we got one more super chat. Let's just do this and then we'll get Caleb. I'm sorry. Um, techno Gatsby says mid season trophies are weird.
01:06:51
Speaker
Teams seems flat on defense and disinterested at times. k Christian looks dog tired. Uh, I worry about a league's cup hangover. Yeah. I mean, that's, uh, hangover watch is real. That's what we're on right now. We are on hangover watch and, uh,
01:07:07
Speaker
you know They have a chance to dispel that if they can just get back to looking how they looked during leaguescap or ah yeah during League's Cup and since Club World Cup. but Until then, when you draw points at home against l LA Galaxy, lose 3-1 in your next match, hangover watch.
01:07:25
Speaker
All right, Caleb, you ready to go? Give us a thumbs up. Sweet. Welcome to the stage, Caleb. Caleb, with the archive kit from Singapore. yeah I got this at the LA game last week.
01:07:36
Speaker
o Oh, yeah. 3-1-L at InterMiami. How are you feeling? What did think? Dude, was frustrating, man. um We couldn't pass well.
01:07:48
Speaker
like our team let's not give it away they're gonna like they keep like they'll make some weird lunch or i don't know it felt like sometimes there was like no communication or maybe they're just confused i don't know it did feel like uh they were a step off especially in the midfield like there's a few looks where they were like it looked like they weren't in sync or they were not they weren't sure what was happening yeah it's uh i was there was there live oh you were in miami we were yeah me and my dad went um sounders shout out wow we'll ask you about the atmosphere was it hot and sticky no the well it was very hot uh wearing the scarf was it was hot it was sweaty um
01:08:39
Speaker
But like it was really quiet. The Miami fans were quiet, man. It was weird. ah like Especially the second half. Second half was mostly dead. um Just their their fans cheering. Let me see our ECS fans. i think our ECS fans were louder.
01:08:57
Speaker
But, ah yeah, it was weird. It was a weird game. Because Lumen Field last on Saturday, way louder. Way more enemy.
01:09:08
Speaker
And the team we were playing against, I mean, gave a good fight too. But, ah yeah, I think we should have buried this away. I think Osase should have had... um i think maybe League's Cup got in his head a little bit.
01:09:19
Speaker
Maybe. Potentially. I don't know. But, like... i don't know. It could have been... I don't know what what what maybe maybe want to rest moose and want to keep him fresh because I mean it is a tough little fixture for us right with Austin.
01:09:38
Speaker
ah But yeah, Morris looked good when he when he came on, though. That little like thing, the Vargas, um ah first Vargas gold that wasn't a deflection, I think.
01:09:51
Speaker
Right? Yeah. Which is cool. um so Yeah, the season at least, yeah. yeah Oh, yeah, I didn't even think of that. Yeah, so that was cool to see.
01:10:02
Speaker
um i wish we could have scored more. Like, it felt good. Like, after that, like, we came, I think Schmetzer gave a good talk. Like, we we looked a totally different team at the second half.
01:10:13
Speaker
don't know about what were you guys felt. Yeah, I mean, i don't know how much of that was, ah you know, when you're chasing a ah when you're chasing a game like that, sometimes the other team is more willing to just absorb pressure. And then this Inter-Miami team, they're definitely, ah you can get after them in that way. So I think they did a good job but of that.
01:10:34
Speaker
But I always kind of hesitate to give too much credit for that in a situation where you're pressing because you're down 3-0 or 3-1. Yeah. I mean, I think it is it is fair to say that ah the the attack looked a lot better in the second half. There was a lot less really bad giveaways in the second half.
01:10:52
Speaker
And they did get a goal, and Rusnak and Jordan Morris were part of that goal. So I think you do have to acknowledge that as well. Yeah, that one that Rothrock barely very missed before second half before the half ended, the first half, was awesome. what do you i was I stood up on my seat. I thought he scored.
01:11:13
Speaker
And then it was embarrassing. All the Miami fans were all um looking at me. um Yeah, I don't know. It was a it was a weird game. It was a weird game.
01:11:25
Speaker
I mean, that's what it's a Tuesday. It's a Tuesday. Yeah, why are we doing this on a Tuesday? Yeah. What is this, the U.S. Open Cup? We don't play in the game. It's tiring them, too. Yeah. Like, you come to Miami on Sunday, you have Monday. I don't know how... They must be tired, too.
01:11:42
Speaker
i I can't even imagine the the travels set up. That sounds pretty exhausting. i came I came to Miami today and I'm beat up. I can barely imagine how they do it. Like, what in the world?
01:11:55
Speaker
Yeah, no joke. Well, final thoughts here, Caleb. Anything anything else you want to add? uh i hope that andrew thomas gets some games get some more games this year i really hope he does i think he earned uh i i think he earned some more room um in the the roster discussion no i agree no no um like shame to like stephan fry i thought he still had some good saves today um i think maybe i don't know maybe we could mix it up a little bit but i know schmidt said he only wants to pick one
01:12:29
Speaker
So I don't know, but I don't envy Brian Schmetzer. Yeah. He has so many choices. It's wow. It's a crazy, it's a crazy one. It's a crazy season. It's a good, it was good season to be a Sounders fan.
01:12:42
Speaker
All right, Caleb. Thanks so much for calling in, man. yeah We will talk to you next week. All right. Ari, we don't have anyone else in the queue and I wanted to eat a burrito. Are you, or what are we thinking here? Do we think we just, we just chalked this one off?
01:12:57
Speaker
i'm i'm down to I'm down to chalk a little Perfect. When it's an emphatic dub, I think we have an obligation to stay on for two hours, but 3-1-L at InterMiami on a Tuesday, I don't think we have that ah that obligation.
01:13:09
Speaker
No, I agree. We did five hours after League's Cup against InterMiami. We don't need to do any more. Okay, let's do hunch. Let's do hunch and then we'll. Okay, I'm going to give you hunch because I just ordered food and it's going to get here. So right I got it.
01:13:24
Speaker
But ah hunch, we all all I'll stay for the first part because I love hunch. All right, ready?
Post-Game Reflections and Learnings
01:13:31
Speaker
Hey, you guys got me? Welcome. we got you hunch. How's it going, man?
01:13:36
Speaker
ah Not bad. Not bad. Um, so I'll say that my takeaway from this is nothing, literally nothing. Um, yeah, that's valid. I mean, short rest, highly rotated 3000 miles away in humid heat, uh, for a team you've already beat. And it's not going to be nearly to the level that you just played them for a cup.
01:13:58
Speaker
You know, I don't, I don't take anything from this. I don't learn anything from this and I don't worry about this at all. Not even a little bit. the thing You're not worried at all about a prospective hangover? That's my own memory.
01:14:09
Speaker
No, that this game has no bearing on that. Zero. Explain your ah rationale. The LA game combined with the Austin game, that is your analysis. And if we had gotten a better result against the LA game, we would not be talking about this Miami game.
01:14:24
Speaker
It'd be ideal to have gotten something. But LA going to a tie in the way that it did makes this game somehow feel relevant. But if's not. Yeah, I see what you're saying.
01:14:34
Speaker
It's not. um
Substitution Effectiveness
01:14:36
Speaker
The subs, I mean, okay. Well, I'm taking nothing from this in terms of I'm not evaluating my team. I'm not worried about this, that, or the other.
01:14:45
Speaker
I'm not worried about effort to some degree. Once they scored that goal and we had fresh legs, I mean, literally, you just lean on Miami at that point, and you get that second one, then they're really going to collapse. Because as was pointed out, ad nauseum, they had no other subs.
01:15:02
Speaker
Like, they had nobody. But I just don't know if we had the the stamina, even with the new folks or the fresh folks. did Yeah,
Debate on Player Potential
01:15:11
Speaker
I don't know. I did i did question...
01:15:16
Speaker
not the subs that came on but who went off that felt weird it felt like christian should have been one of the ones off like and i i may maybe you start snyder and you bring christian on late in the second half that's my only gripe i feel like snyder should have started this game i really feel like that and no shade against snyder i have no doubts in him But I don't have any belief or let's say i don't have any trust yet either.
01:15:39
Speaker
Like it's going to take more. See, I'm on a different page. I don't i don't know i already trust him. like Tonight reinforced the trust that I have in him because i figured like, all right, he didn't start this game because it's probably too soon in his career to put him in a situation like that. But I thought once he got out there, yeah i would not have been able to tell that he's an 18-year-old playing in like his third or fourth MLS game. I thought he looked – like actively good, not just, ah yeah not just not screwing up. Like he was positively contributing to their push for a goal that could have put them in position to get a result.
01:16:14
Speaker
Again, I don't have any doubts in him. I just haven't built any trust with him. And if we go back to the thing that I've brought up a few times, if we're making evaluations based on two games, let's talk about Ryan Kent's first two games. Let's talk about Pedro de la Vegas first two games. Like we just, it's not there yet. That's all I'm saying is cool. That's fair.
01:16:30
Speaker
That's fair. And that's also to not put that much pressure on him to have to somehow now have a standard of his own to live up to. Like, not that he can't, but it's it's it's early. like Let's get him in there. That's fine.
01:16:42
Speaker
I refuse to learn my lesson from the Ryan Pence thing, Hunch. I formulate conclusions off two-game samples. That's what I do. No, Patriot
Lineup Decisions Analysis
01:16:50
Speaker
and La Vega, like, with the first two games last year, it's like, we didn't know what we had, and then he was immediately out. And it's like, well, we're only going off those two games. We don't know what we've got.
01:16:57
Speaker
So all I'm saying is it's just... he he He is not limited by anything, but by the same time, you know we don't need to add constraints to him other than just support. like He's got to earn the trust. Let's let's see it happen, that's all.
01:17:14
Speaker
um I thought, man, i I would have started, well, this tells me they're starting Musaski on Sunday, which is not surprising. But I think I would have pulled Osaze at half or done a double swap or done a swap where Moose starts and Osaze comes on the second half. I just, he he had a presence, but he he didn't seem connected in terms of even getting back at times. And I just, I don't know what that was about. I know Schmetz is big on playing defense for everybody.
01:17:51
Speaker
He didn't seem full a lot into that, bought into that in this game. So I don't know. I like the guy. I think that is another thing you could ah question, I guess, about the lineup. Schmetz said that ah he started Osazi because he felt like he earned the chance to build on what he did in league cup but uh like moose is so such like a more known commodity at this point i almost feel like you could argue his reliability compared to osaze who's still like he's been playing great but he's not as established as moose has been this season moose that that that presence that moose could give you could argue that that should he should have been started in this situation You can on one hand say like, oh no, we had to play Christian because we had to get points in this match. Yeah, and that's weird.
01:18:40
Speaker
And then play, you don't play your leading score. Yeah,
Strategic Choices and Resource Management
01:18:46
Speaker
exactly. i'm amazing it's like what what How much are we really trying? Like if you're gonna if you're not going to start Snyder B because he's not ready for this situation.
01:18:56
Speaker
Osaze is more experienced than Snyder B, but not like that much. Yeah. Like, so yeah, you're right. he' It was kind of not following that exact that logic that he was saying.
01:19:06
Speaker
Yeah. ah And I thought maybe, maybe Osaze would have thought of it differently if he didn't get the start. But even if he did feel like a little, like he was chipped by not getting a start, maybe a little agitated. ah Osaze coming on in the second half could have been a good thing.
01:19:24
Speaker
you know entering the game as opposed to starting the game. like's He's already got experience with this team, and if he's a little pissed off about the fact that he didn't get the start, ah um sign me up for that. I'd like to see how he would do against them, you know bring some energy to the field. I don't know.
01:19:36
Speaker
yeah I just think the double pivot fear that Brian Schmetzer has right now is just like it's it's their biggest weakness. I think if we had won against LA, you would have seen a lineup tonight that like rivaled that Austin game like four years ago whatever. Oh, yeah.
01:19:54
Speaker
That's what who would have been on the field. And I think it would have been fine. They maybe should have just done that anyway. I kind of wonder. I kind of wonder. but I think they felt the pressure to get a result. But here's the thing. If you aren't going to commit to getting a result, meaning doing everything you can to get at least a point, what's the point in half-assing it?
01:20:14
Speaker
at you know
Team Dynamics and Decision-Making
01:20:15
Speaker
you know Going 90% doesn't get it done, but you expend resources doing that. which could affect your next game. So it's like, I get you. I mean, that's what these coaches have to do.
01:20:25
Speaker
They got weigh these things, but um mean, if you're going half-ass it, maybe quarter-ass it, like, pull it back even further, not to just, like, give of a green light, but you know what saying? Give guys some rest.
01:20:36
Speaker
ah And i you know, you could have, not to stir the pot on this, you could have sent Andrew instead of frying, getting, you know not have him to make the trip. Uh,
01:20:48
Speaker
And I don't know if that would been good or bad or if that would have made things worse, but, I mean, Brian said that he was going decision, so maybe that's why he had to stick to it, even though this is a one-off 3,000, well, 6,000 miles there and back kind of trip. But I'll tell you who i am done with, and I've been his fan for a while, or had been.
01:21:07
Speaker
Done with? Yo, I'm done. I'm done. i'm I've said it a few times now, and he needs to be sold. He needs to be sold at the end of the season, and that is new. i am I'm over it.
01:21:18
Speaker
I'm over it because there are things. he He is prioritizing his offense over everything else. And I've seen the pattern repeat, and you can you can watch this.
01:21:30
Speaker
he will kind of half dribble up and he'll have the left winger or midfielder sliding over up to him. And as opposed ah to play them through or make the long pass up there and then run up to try and participate, he will half dribble up there so that they're close enough to them.
01:21:47
Speaker
And then he passes to him and then tries to run by and be like, oh, put me through, put me through, put me through. And she won't keep like Georgie's over there just like salivating, trying to like kill them on that left wing. And he would not spring Georgie a number of times. He would dribble up or he even dribble to the center circle once a couple of times. It's just like, ah I don't think he's got the right priorities.
01:22:10
Speaker
I don't know in terms of,
01:22:14
Speaker
Eyes are set on goal. And I don't have a problem with him playing offense. But... don't have a problem with him being you know being a but up there, but he can't be the focal point. Like, it's... i don't know.
01:22:28
Speaker
ah yeah I don't feel like he's he's helping the left winger, whoever is in front of him. The only thing I got tilted at New Who about was when he kept Messi on side for just the most wide-open breakaway of Messi's career, which he somehow put off the post.
01:22:43
Speaker
I guess he had to juke a couple guys, but it was still ah still ended in a wide-open opportunity. But I also i can't remember how much time he had to he had to react, but that was just like, how do you guys let Messi get that opportunity?
01:22:57
Speaker
That's crazy. Well, he kept he kept the... Who was the other person the scored? Was it Jordi Alba? Jordy Alba scored the first one. Yeah, Nuku kept him on side tight on that run as well. he was He was the furthest back on that basically blooper over the top that allowed the run on.
01:23:13
Speaker
And like they even showed It's like, oh yeah, he's done because Nuku's over there five feet back from any other defender. So but like I said, I just don't... ah yeah The liability.
01:23:24
Speaker
like I like the guy. He makes some
Game Significance and Future Preparations
01:23:26
Speaker
miraculous plays, it's because he has to because he leaves things exposed and like has to dive in. And I mean, you get started with red cards. Again, I don't dislike him. I just, I want somebody who's supporting that left winger more.
01:23:40
Speaker
And I mean, look, you could see it with Reed Baker. Like we have a comparison. It's a pro, it's a pro RBW agenda, not an anti new who agenda. Well, new who's good and he's got value.
01:23:53
Speaker
Let's get something for that.
01:23:55
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. But yeah, I don't know. I don't take anything from this game. I don't worry about it as a coaching. I just put it aside. It sounds like they're only going to have like one or two practices, one practice before they're back on the road again.
01:24:07
Speaker
Are they flying back tonight? I'm not sure. Yeah, maybe. Well, i mean, it's already 11 p.m. there, 10 Like, are they going to get, is there an East Coast red eye they're going to push so long?
01:24:19
Speaker
I feel like that that is how they usually do it. They usually try and get the hell out of there. Yeah, they usually try and charter them back the same day. So then they're not at the facility Wednesday. They're going traveling, what, Saturday again?
01:24:34
Speaker
that gives them Thursday and Friday.
01:24:38
Speaker
Yeah. i' they Sometimes they travel a couple days early. Okay. Okay. Well, then somebody made reference that they only have one practice. It was in that press conference, I think. They're only going have one practice between now and Austin.
01:24:50
Speaker
So not a lot to course correct off Miami, but again, I wouldn't take anything from it. I would just put it aside and normal prep. So, I don't know. Like you said, I'm not worried about this. It would be nice
Current Standings and Future Implications
01:25:01
Speaker
to get some points, but I wasn't threatened.
01:25:04
Speaker
would have brought the the trophy and had it on the sideline.
01:25:10
Speaker
Maybe put some ice in it yeah for the Gatorades and water bottles. That would be a good bit. They would have the trainers go out like when they're bringing out like the the water bottles. Just carry the trophy out. The trophy for the ice and water there. Yeah.
01:25:25
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, I'm glad you guys did the show, of course. um But ah yeah, I don't take anything from this. LA, I'm more disappointed in. and but I think they just got a cut. That was the first game back.
01:25:37
Speaker
Right? The LA game, yeah. Yeah, so knock the rust off, get refocused. Everybody's been gone a week. Christian's had no break. like Again, I'm going to compare LA and Austin and then whatever that subsequent game is.
01:25:50
Speaker
And if they get a tie in Austin and you compare that to a tie in LA and then maybe a win after that or a tie after that, I mean, it is what it is. ah Chances are the LAFC is going to pass us. They just are.
01:26:03
Speaker
um That's sort of how I feel right now too. And that's, i'm that's a concern like that chalks home field advantage if that happens. So,
Closing Remarks and Next Caller
01:26:11
Speaker
so then it needs to be not about LAFC needs to be catching who's in front of us, Vancouver, Minnesota, or Vancouver and Minnesota. So it needs to be about catching them and not so much worry about LAFC.
01:26:21
Speaker
Yeah, it's tough, though. You're seven points back of them right now. Yeah, but don't have a game and games in hand. I thought we had two in hand. No, Vancouver has a game in hand on Seattle. Wow. I'm not going to fret.
01:26:32
Speaker
I think, i mean, i'm I'm happy for making the playoffs. Home field's nice. We were one game away from MLS Cup on the road last year based on one goal based at the very end. So, yeah.
01:26:46
Speaker
True. All right. Well, we got Vinny in the queue behind you, Hutch. So I can, Noah, if you want to go eat your burrito, can do Vinny's call.
01:26:57
Speaker
And then I'm probably going to call it a night after that. I'm covering Can Champ, so I got to tend to that as well. But... Hunch, thank you for calling in as always.
01:27:08
Speaker
Appreciate you, man. Noah already took you off the screen. Sorry. I'm pressing buttons. We'll catch you on the next one. All right. i'm You got this. i love you, Chad. I'm so sleepy.
01:27:20
Speaker
I need a burrito. Enjoy your burrito, Noah. Good stream. All right, we're going to get Vinny's call in here, and then we're going to call it a night, so no one else call in.
01:27:32
Speaker
No one else call in.
Future of Key Players and Team Dynamics
01:27:33
Speaker
If anyone else calls in, I'm going to not take the call, unfortunately. Sorry. But ah we we went an hour and a half, so I feel like that's a pretty good shift. All right, bringing Vinny to the stage right now.
01:27:43
Speaker
ah He does not have a video going, but I think he's here. Vinny, can you hear me? Yes, can you hear me? Yeah, I got 3-1-L at InterMiami. How are you feeling? What's on your mind?
01:27:56
Speaker
It's not the best feeling in the world, but still nice to know that we still beat him in Leagues Cup. Yeah. I feel like this might have been the end of the road for Fry's career.
01:28:10
Speaker
because For his career? Well, but probably... He's getting old now. He's been in the Sounders for a long time, he's had a great, great career with us, but...
01:28:24
Speaker
I feel like Andrew Thomas is about to take over for his position because he proved himself out the entire League's Cup. And when Open Cup comes around CONCACAF, I feel like Shredser might play in both of those tournaments and see how he does.
01:28:41
Speaker
And um he might take over for next season. Just like Jordan Morton. Because he just got back from injury and he's...
01:28:54
Speaker
had tons of interest in his career, but he's still a great player. But De Rosario now has been playing amazing and might take over his position too.
01:29:06
Speaker
You're thinking Osaze as the future ah and Andrew Thomas taking over this year? Is that what you were saying? Yeah, i'm pretty sure them become they're going to become the veterans that we try and sort more as long.
01:29:22
Speaker
Because they've been on the team for a long time. I'm pretty sure they've both been they've been here for both Cups, MLS Cups. And they're just great players overall.
01:29:33
Speaker
And I don't think that we should get rid of them just yet. Because
Strengths, Weaknesses, and Future Outlook
01:29:39
Speaker
they're still great players and they could be there if we need them.
01:29:44
Speaker
Like in another Cup Final. Yeah, that makes sense. Was there anything in, did you feel like the the goals that they gave up tonight were we're especially on the on the goalkeeper, or is it just more of a general feeling than related to this game?
01:30:01
Speaker
As a goalkeeper myself, when Messi scored his goal, Stephen Fry... in my perspective, should have been on the ground ready to have the ball fall right into his hands or his chest because where the ball was placed and where he was, I feel that the defender should have probably done a better job of getting in front of Messi so he didn't have a chance to hit the ball and then Stefan Fry could pick it up.
01:30:25
Speaker
But he it looks like he dragged his foot on the ground and like stopped him from the net cam replay. and But yeah.
01:30:37
Speaker
ah How are you feeling about the ah potential of a hangover? That's kind of what we've been talking about. And i don't think you can fully say it off two games, but I think for me, I was watching this game tonight and i was I was a little concerned that we could be looking at that type of situation. Hunch said he's not worried about that, but I'm a little worried about that.
01:30:56
Speaker
How do you feel about that? I don't know. what It's hard to tell right now. but Vancouver? Oh, well, not Vancouver. That would be a hard one to play. But Austin, if we fall to them, then that might be a big problem.
01:31:11
Speaker
Yeah. i I can still see it since we are playing three games in like a week.
01:31:19
Speaker
Yeah, and I mean, that that is a, I thought that was a home game for some reason, but they already played Austin at home. That's ah that's a road game. That's not an easy road trip either, man. like But and it'll be like a ah test of if the the depth we've seen this year can kind of keep playing at the level that it's been playing at. But that level that energy and that intensity that we got so used to watching since Club World Cup and during Leagues Cup,
01:31:43
Speaker
this This, I felt like there was that kind of was still there, at least in Attack, in the Galaxy game at home. It really wasn't there in this game, but I don't know if that's just because it was a really long road trip and on on short rest and stuff, or if it's ah part of a larger issue. I guess that's what we're going to find out in the next couple weeks here.
01:32:06
Speaker
i just hope that we can go on our streak again of playing the good games that we can do, because... We are a good team, and we have been. And even though we lost to Miami because he has four players, that they only have a four-player team, but doesn't mean that we're still not the rulers of MLS.
01:32:27
Speaker
I love that. I think that's a good place to ah call it, Vinny. I'm going to take off for the night, but ah thanks for calling in. Appreciate you, and we'll ah catch you on the next one, all right? All right. You enjoy.
01:32:38
Speaker
Take care.
01:32:41
Speaker
All right, chat, that's going to do it for your boy tonight. going to get out of here. got Got some stuff to do to close out the night. But thank you all, as always, for tuning in. If you haven't yet, please like the video, ah sub to the channel, like, comment, rate five stars, subscribe, all that stuff.
01:32:59
Speaker
I'll be back at it on Thursday for Under the Lights, 7.30. Don't miss out on that. we'll probably We'll be talking a little bit more probably about this game, but also looking at the Austin game more in depth. And, yeah, it's going to be good stuff.
01:33:15
Speaker
Thank you all for coming and hanging out. I know it wasn't as glamorous a post-game show. we've been We've been pretty spoiled lately. When you do shows after every single game during the season like we do, you've got to do all kinds of different types of results. You're going to have to do but few L's, and we've been lucky lately.
01:33:35
Speaker
We haven't had to do that many L's, but, you know... Take L sometimes. Take L. You still have to do the post-game live. So appreciate you guys hanging out in spite of the unfortunate result tonight.
01:33:48
Speaker
And I'll catch you all 7.30 on Thursday. Thanks for tuning in. Peace.