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Alexis : Hi, everybody.
Plant People: Hello again.
Brett: but i What up,
Alexis : Hello. i ah Can I have a not-so-humble brag on here?
Plant People: yes by all means.
Alexis : Listen, my lemon tree, she...
Brett: post.
Plant People: Go shoot.
Alexis : she be producing and I know of so many like I tried to space them out like I've been harvesting them right and just like letting them hang on the tree and different stuff but they're so ripe now they're just falling off the tree when I like accidentally bump into it so now I have huge bag of lemons and I'm like oh
Brett: Wow.
Plant People: Okay.
Brett: Flex.
Plant People: So is this like in a greenhouse or inside your home? Where's this lemon tree at?
Alexis : This is ah currently, she is in a stock tank in the greenhouse. Stock tank on a cart in the greenhouse.
Plant People: Gotcha.
Alexis : So.
Brett: This is the one that you you took custody of from a ah ah person, right?
Plant People: And apparently very happy.
Brett: That you...
Alexis : Yes, yes. She has been mine for about six years-ish. And what was I know and I can't either.
Brett: Oh, wow. I can't believe it's been that long. It seems its like those not that long ago.
Alexis : i thought about that. um Maybe a little bit longer because it went through at least one winter in another location. so ah
Plant People: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : But yes, i it was it was brought with a friend from Colorado and she brought it to Kentucky and had it in a greenhouse in Kentucky.
Alexis : And it was in the stock tank when I got it.
Plant People: i
Alexis : It's probably not really grown, but she'd be producing some lemons. and Super happy. She also has scales, so I'm not that great of ah a citrus grower because it also has insect problems.
Alexis : But... Lots of lemons. i'm not I made a lemon cake yesterday and I was like, all going to make a lemon cake. It used all of like two and a half lemons. ah I'm going to need to make a lot of cake.
Plant People: You're a lot of zest on hand at some point.
Alexis : ah
Brett: You should make limoncello.
Alexis : Well, I looked into that and apparently, I mean, you can do it, but like the Meyer lemon I grow as a thin skin.
Plant People: Yes, you should.
Alexis : And so they usually recommend a thick skin because there's less white pith involved. But I might do it anyways because I have a lot of lemons. So,
Brett: I would do it anyway.
Plant People: I mean, make lemonade, you know, this winter has been tough.
Alexis : Yeah. But then I need to like, I'm like, do I just juice those lemons and freeze the lemon juice if I don't have an immediate use for it Because once you take the skin off, you know.
Plant People: So.
Plant People: Hmm.
Plant People: The clock is ticking.
Alexis : I know, there's ah it's two parts here.
Brett: When you, did you, would you say that you had in aspiration to to grow lemons at some point, or is this more of a, an issue of worlds collide, things happen, you're a plant person, so it makes sense?
Plant People: Victim of your own success, kind of thing. Hmm.
Alexis : i I think I didn't really realize it was a possibility until I met somebody with a greenhouse. And then at that point, you're kind of like, oh, well, I'll never have a greenhouse.
Plant People: oh
Alexis : That would be really cool and I would love to do it, but that won't be me.
Brett: Well,
Alexis : It's not that my life. And it became it. So it's ah it's a mix of both.
Plant People: It's your whole personality.
Alexis : Like, I never don't want to but grow a plant, I feel like.
Plant People: So, yeah.
Plant People: I feel like figs are maybe in your future as well. All these things.
Alexis : Oh, totally.
Plant People: then
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: Yeah. I could say, I could see that, you know, I could see it with you.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: but you know, some people, they'll like see something somewhere and they'll be like, That's what I want to do.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: Like at some point in my life, I am going to grow lemon tree or like there'll be people who ask me like, Oh, did you see bonsai in karate kid?
Alexis : Yeah.
Alexis : yeah
Brett: And then you wanted to do that for forever. And I was like, uh, no, because until the first time that I was asked that, you know, people find out that a lot of people say that, but the first time I was asked that it reminded me that that was even a part of the plot of karate kid too.
Alexis : Yeah, I wouldn't have talk thought about it from Karate Kid, but yeah.
Brett: Maybe.
Plant People: That's one of the first things I think about with a karate kid. I don't know why that and those beautiful old cars and the bonsai tree.
Brett: Yeah.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: But it did not, that did not, i remember much more the like, like wax on wax off followed by like punching the wooden thing.
Plant People: Punching.
Alexis : Wax on, wax off, yeah.
Plant People: we
Alexis : Sweep the leg!
Brett: Alexis
Plant People: Absolute legend. Absolute legend.
Brett: and I remember that more.
Plant People: Isn't that awesome?
Brett: And and also just, just ah Ralph, was it Ralph Macchio? His cute little, you know, dimples.
Plant People: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: And i remember that as well, but.
Plant People: I may have dressed up as that shower from that movie at multiple events in my life. The shower curtain that he goes into, because it's an easy one, and you just kind of put the pipe up your back.
Brett: Wow.
Plant People: and yeah this It's an easy one, but i was always disappointed when you walked into the room and they just thought you were weird. They had no idea of the reference. I'm like, come on, people. Where's my 80s babies at?
Brett: Or if people people love shower, like you found out that you love shower curtains and they're like, oh, do you love them because of the karate kid? And you're like, no, I just have an independent passion for this. Okay.
Plant People: Yeah, just, I really love it. I really like the movie Saco, the shower scene in Saco.
Brett: Not all of it came from that moment.
Plant People: Yeah, that's not it, people. That's not It's Karate Kid, okay?
Brett: So Alexis, you just sort of generally manifested your plant love and the fact that you worked a bunch in the greenhouses at at the University of Kentucky while you were were studying and working there.
Plant People: Yeah.
Plant People: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : yeah chop the lemon tree yeah yeah send me your lemon recipes people
Brett: Now you have your own. So let's do this lemon thing. does that is that the main
Brett: Is that the main thing that you have in there that's like not a wild roots thing? Or is there what what other kind of stuff you got in there?
Alexis : Uh, whatever, like random plants that make me no money, but I hold onto them type of plants.
Brett: Those the ones, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Alexis : I, uh, I have, um, dragon fruit plants in there uh,
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : grew from seed just to see if I could. and now they are outrageous and they're very prickly because they are cacti and which makes them very difficult to move around.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : And they are very floppy cacti. and ah they're they're normally trellised up in like production. They, you know, kind of get trellised because they almost almost like vine in a way.
Alexis : ah But they are...
Brett: Like if someone were producing the dragon fruit fruit.
Alexis : Yes, correct.
Brett: Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.
Alexis : Yep. Yep. So they they tend to, they're a creeper of a cacti if they're just left to their own devices.
Brett: Damn.
Alexis : Yep. And yeah, therefore it's like creeping out of its pot. So there's like these huge, you know, very prickly cacti. And so every time I go to move the flat they're in, I get stabbed.
Alexis : and But I raise these babies from seed. I can't, I've already let go of a lot of them. i feel like I can't kill these babies.
Plant People: You have investment. Yeah.
Alexis : I know, but there's such a pain in the butt.
Brett: it feels It feels a little bit like if you had hatched a dragon from an egg and you're like, I did this.
Alexis : Correct.
Plant People: You're the mother of dragons.
Brett: And yeah, it keeps keeps burning my hair and like scratching me and stuff.
Alexis : I mean, it's my child. I'm going to, like, take care of it, but I'm pissed about it
Brett: And like...
Plant People: Where is Jessica on the podcast when we make a Game of Thrones reference? You're the mother of dragons, literally.
Brett: Mmm.
Plant People: moon winter
Brett: Mother of dragon fruit.
Plant People: Yes, mother of dragons.
Alexis : Mother of dragon and fruit.
Plant People: We should have a whole special or a comment section dedicated to what's in Alexis, what random plants are in Alexis's greenhouse, unintentionally or intentionally, and just make it a kind of a guest segment where you guess on what it may be in there.
Plant People: I'm guessing like jade plant somewhere in the corner, like some kind of jade tree. I mean, I'm just i'm seeing some things emerge.
Alexis : Well, so there's there's like there's the house plants, then there's the... problem i I call it i called the propagation house because it's like, yes, it's technically a greenhouse, but I'm predominantly using it for the times when I'm propagating plants versus like when you think of a greenhouse, you think of year round plants are in there.
Plant People: Oh, OK. OK.
Plant People: Justification.
Alexis : In the summertime, I close it up, nothing's inside. It's just too high and I don't deal with it. So it's ah it's a propagation house and all my all my house plants are... in the house except for the dragon fruit and the lemon tree because I can't fit it.
Brett: Yeah, I was going to say the dragon fruit and the lemon tree are are size considerations. Is that the main?
Alexis : Yeah, size as well as just like ah I don't want to bump into it in the corner in my pajamas.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: the lemons might fall off.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: No, I'm just teasing.
Plant People: The dragon.
Brett: We're having fun. ah So yeah, we were segued in and then I was just mainly curious what you were keeping in that greenhouse. but
Plant People: we're kind of, that kind of is it though, isn't it? I mean, how how did Alexis get here?
Brett: Yeah. what
Plant People: I mean, how do you get, I mean, what, what in your formative years led you to a greenhouse and dragon fruit, you know?
Brett: What happened to you as a child?
Alexis : well Well, the aliens dropped me off.
Brett: You see, on my planet, we do not have chlorophyll.
Plant People: When we do not have green,
Plant People: how do we get here?
Alexis : Oh.
Brett: But the idea of like, okay, I saw this in a movie when I was a kid. I think a lot of people have that experience and they may want to, it may inform what you want to do with your career, with your life in general, or may inspire you to take a trip somewhere.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: Like, you know, I really want to go see the, you know, the, the Alps because I saw them in a movie.
Alexis : Totally.
Alexis : New Zealand, because I watched The Hobbit.
Brett: Right. New Zealand.
Plant People: Absolutely. Yeah.
Brett: And So I was curious and I sent a text out to the pod squad to think about like, okay, what are some pop cultural references or experiences that you had as a kid that you think like maybe not impacted your decision to be a plant person, but they have like a distinct plant component that you're like, oh, that's pretty cool.
Brett: And I really like that. Or even you just remembered it could have maybe it terrorized you. Um, whatever, whatever variation on, on that you wanted.
Alexis : Need me see more? actually have a reference,
Brett: And I was just curious what was going to come, but what came to mind and, you know, our our lifespan, I think we spent time as children in the eighties, nineties and early two thousands, like as, as a group here.
Brett: um And so that's the time period we'll be reflecting on. So you won't get any, you know, 1920s references as far as I would expect.
Plant People: No. Unless we're channeling that.
Brett: Yeah.
Alexis : i actually have a nineteen fifty s reference but
Brett: Okay. Well then.
Plant People: ah yeah Yeah, and you you say we're talking about, I guess today, Brett, pop culture. Is that correct? Not necessarily our natural lived-in environment or growing up.
Brett: Yeah, yeah. that Not necessarily the academic journals we were reading as children or yeah, not not like, oh, grandma had a beautiful dogwood or like one of your other crazy folksy stories that makes me realize how hollow my childhood was, Ray.
Plant People: We're just... No, no, as an eight-year-old.
Alexis : Some sort of media or of.
Plant People: um yes yeah. It's the junk we used to watch. Yes.
Brett: Yeah.
Plant People: very favor We're talking Saturday morning cartoons.
Brett: We're looking for a shared like, oh, remember that movie that was out? And you had some good ones, right? That you texted back almost immediately.
Plant People: Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about like from the books you read to the shows you watch and and cultural references that you see. But, you know, we were talking a little bit about the show before the show, before we started recording today to see what kind of content we had. But, yeah, there's some things immediately popped out. And one of the first things I thought of um as we were talking as far as just being aware of plants, as far as pop culture.
Plant People: And I consider literature pop culture one of my favorite things.
Brett: Yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be visual media, anything.
Plant People: Yeah, yeah.
Alexis : Yeah, I've got books as well. Okay, some of us are also into books.
Brett: Could be could be fairyta fairy tales, too.
Plant People: Oh, yeah. We're bred. Alexis, all of a sudden, kind of, she chirped up. I mean, she's she's here for it. I know i knew Alexis would be, but I tried to think of the books that I loved as a child.
Brett: There will be books as well.
Alexis : Okay.
Plant People: And one of my first series box sets I ever read was like Little House in the Big Woods.
Brett: Hmm.
Plant People: And one of the characters was the environment, was trees. And that, you know, the Boxcar Children, did you know, ah that series, you know, it described the natural environment that they were in.
Plant People: And I gravitated towards literature that um I loved, you know, hearing about characters camping and going through the woods and the natural environment. And, you know, Tolkien, my other.
Brett: And little Little House in the Big Woods is Laurie Ingalls Wilder, right?
Plant People: Yes, yes, yes.
Brett: same Same as Little House on the Prairie, but different, different yeah.
Plant People: Yes. Yeah, it just it's that that series of books, the Little House books.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Plant People: But ah to me, one of the main characters was the environment. ah there and the way that things were described. But my favorite all-time series, ah you know, i love J.R.R. Tolkien and I love the descriptions of the natural environment, the adventures that they had, and ants.
Plant People: I thought that trees talked for the longest time and I was so, when I read that, like that there was a children's book version of the longer work that I read later and I was so disappointed when I found out trees couldn't talk. I was really disappointed.
Plant People: I was like, man, yeah maybe they don't, maybe they don't.
Alexis : Maybe they just don't talk to you.
Brett: Maybe you're not listening, right?
Plant People: Maybe I am not doing the right kind of listening, but yeah, I think of literature right off the bat, you know, and things that I like to read as a kid, some of the first memories.
Brett: So just to be clear, you read the the adult Lord of the Rings as an ah as a child and the child one as an adult.
Plant People: Exactly. maybe simultaneously.
Brett: anas That That
Plant People: I read the abridged version of The Hobbit in sixth grade, and then I started Lord of the Rings when I was in eighth grade and then finished that when I was a freshman in high school.
Brett: ah feels beautiful. I really like that.
Plant People: Yeah, good stuff. But I mean, you know, it it described plants and the white tree of Gondor. I mean, what's not to love people?
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Plant People: Come on. I mean, to me, every time I see a sycamore tree like at Keeneland in central Kentucky, I start.
Brett: Yeah.
Brett: Totally, with the white mark.
Alexis : Oh yeah.
Plant People: Yeah, I'm like, that's the white tree of Gondor. I whisper to myself every single time, every single time.
Alexis : ah
Brett: Yeah, extremely ripped off by j George R.R. Martin, by the way, that they have these, whatever, doesn't matter, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Plant People: Yeah, we're not goingnna we're not going to talk about any crossover liberties. No, no, not going to mention anything. But yeah, that's some of the things that I think about that, you know, this didn't necessarily set me out with um my specific path and extension, but it sort of cultivated, no pun intended, sort of cultivated my interest in certain directions.
Brett: A very, so very slight Lord of the Rings thing about plants.
Plant People: Alexis is cringy and I love it.
Brett: I remember when they, ah when the the fellowship arrives, starts hanging out with the elves and the elves have like, in the movie, it's like charred, but they, and the the hobbits are like, what the heck is this?
Brett: Like, I'm more of a tater guy. And this is like some kind of leafy green. I remember thinking that was really funny. And also like, oh yeah, I haven't seen a lot ah lot of leafy veg in the Lord of the Rings so far.
Plant People: Hilarious.
Plant People: No.
Brett: um
Plant People: and Whether was Lambus Brad, we we don't know what that is.
Alexis : One
Plant People: before Yeah.
Alexis : one of my favorite quotes from The Hobbit when I'm like out eating salad or something with someone and I'm just like, I don't like green food. Mm-hmm.
Plant People: Yeah. And you can identify the people that's your people in the room when they look at you and they're like, yeah Yeah. Tolkien famously said, he said one of the main themes, and I think I sent this to you, Alexis, and I love it because he said his hero in the book, I mean, and it was a famous interview, I forget, with the BBC or whatever, years and years ago, was that his main character, the hero of the book was Sam, and he was a gardener, and he kind of did a reflection between growing things and a mechanized war, you know,
Plant People: the wars that were going on and kind of and the industrial things going on at that time period. But his hero was a gardener. And that was a very important theme in those books. And I always thought a lot about that. Once I learned that later on, I was like, yeah, horticulture.
Plant People: Yeah. I was like winning. Yes. Yes. So winning. But yeah, that's one of the things I think of.
Alexis : What about you, Brett?
Brett: I was going to ask you next.
Alexis : No, I want to know yours next.
Plant People: But like I was not prepared for this.
Alexis : Well, and we all have multiples, so like you can just do one and we'll round table it.
Brett: um
Plant People: We do. We do. Yeah, I'm very curious.
Brett: Well, i'll go it in different I'll go in a different direction ah than...
Plant People: Hmm.
Brett: either books or movies and say, and talk about ah in video games. So in, ah in Mario, it's this character that's like a, it's like a plant that like can chomp and bite.
Plant People: you
Brett: And it kind of has some similarities and carry over with the ah Rocky Horror Picture Show, kind of the energy of like this idea of carnivorous plants or of,
Alexis : Hmm.
Brett: Um, and I, I didn't, I don't remember feeling like afraid of them necessarily.
Alexis : m
Brett: i remember feeling like, Ooh, I mean, obviously i avoided it cause I wanted to win the game, but, um, and And otherwise, like it was a lot like mar supermarkt er Mario 64, from from the Nintendo 64, all of the other things were kind of flat, you know, flat planes. And it was green because it was grass. But that was this like, that was one one that came to mind. And then another one that came to mind was the ah the rose from Beauty and the Beast.
Alexis : Oh, uh-huh.
Brett: under the glass thing.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: It's sort of got this magic about it, symbol of senescence and the passage of time and the magic of regrowth.
Plant People: Slowly was declining. Yeah.
Brett: And um yeah, I thought that was a pretty, a pretty impactful one as far as it didn't necessarily, it didn't necessarily make me want to grow roses per se, but it cued me into that plant cycle.
Alexis : magic
Brett: Yeah. And you Alexis?
Alexis : okay well um i'm gonna tell you about one that ah a memory that has been fairly recently unlocked but like it's been unlocked in such a major way of oh just like all these memories of watching it uh it's a movie called a troll in central park
Plant People: Mm-hmm. who
Alexis : And it's from like 1994.
Brett: Hmm.
Alexis : and it's an animated movie.
Brett: Wow.
Alexis : And so this troll he just this sweet little troll. His name is Stanley. And he has a green thumb. And it's like visibly green. He's and he's magic, right? And so he can actually grow.
Alexis : he like pushes his thumb down on stuff and grows flowers and and like all kinds of stuff everywhere. And so have – i i have once that was like unlocked in my brain i just think I have all of these memories of just sitting down and watching that movie on VHS and yeah it's an old school animated movie and I think
Brett: Wow, this is like an animated movie.
Plant People: And I had forgotten that existed, yeah.
Brett: And he his thumb is like glowing green
Alexis : Glows green and he presses it and like creates these like sentient, you know, flowers and vines and all these different things. um And he takes these kids through Central Park ah and, you know, they're escaping the evil queen and all of these different things. But that's that one.
Alexis : I, it's like, it's so interesting. I'm like, i feel like I am Stanley now or I get to try to be Stanley now.
Brett: morning
Alexis : So I'm like, that one really,
Plant People: Literally, I mean, yeah.
Brett: the the vi The vibe of that is reminding me of another one that you mentioned earlier of Fern Gully.
Alexis : Yes, Fern Gully's also on my list. Uh-huh. Same time period.
Brett: It's kind of the spectrum of like, that one seems to be more of like a gardening, growing, that type of thing. Fern Gully is more about this... ah I would say environmental awareness about, you know, deforestation.
Alexis : Environmentalist.
Brett: And I remember there's a scene, what reminded me of it was his glowing thumb. And I was like, what is the memory that is that is triggering? And it was like, she's, I think it's the the main, the main female characters like holding a seed in her hand and it like glows.
Alexis : The sea. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Brett: And I was like, oh that reminded me of that. um
Alexis : Yep.
Brett: Yeah. What a, you you were talking about what a crazy cast that that had.
Alexis : Yeah, she plants it after they've Uh-huh. Uh-huh. There's so many good people. And when you rewatch it, it's like Fern Gully is streamable. And I watched it fairly recently because it was one of my favorite movies growing up. And you start hearing the voices. You're like, oh, that's, oh, and that's. And like i start, you know, IMDb-ing it and seeing all these really famous people who are in this movie. And a lot of them did it for... I think free or low money and all that money got went to like environmental agencies and stuff.
Alexis : But I could have made that up. That was a dream I had once. Okay.
Brett: Yeah. Well, that, that feel, it feels to me like that is fits in that and Ray brought up, uh, that, Ray's response was about the Ents and that's a lot of the Tolkien stuff, but also like you mentioned mall interior scapes in the eighty s what can you that out?
Plant People: Yes, absolutely.
Plant People: You know, and that's something I've always noticed, ah you know, the first thing I do, and i don't know if you guys do this, to this very day, I go feel if plants are real because, you know, the fake ones have gotten good, okay?
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: And especially with like succulents, I'm like, is that real?
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: And I go up and I have to know if it's real or not. But even in the 80s, I thought that it was so interesting to see these foccus trees or, you know, these different plants, you know, you see pothos or whatever you have that's on the interior scapes, the malls, trees and stuff.
Plant People: And bringing the outdoor environment in. was always so interesting to me and it felt so, for lack of a better word, felt so rich and luxurious. When you walked in a hotel lobby or you went into them, i always thought of malls because there's nothing more iconic in the eighties than malls.
Alexis : Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Plant People: But to see plants on the inside to bring the outside world in, i just it just felt like a luxury. It it felt like it kind of brought you know a different dimension inside.
Alexis : it
Plant People: And if you added water to that, even better. Other natural elements, but that really shaped a lot of my thinking. You know, early on, I associated with like interior plants, indoor plants as like with luxury.
Brett: Well, yeah, and go ahead.
Alexis : it's where that you i say It's weird that you bring this up because I just got a text message from a good friend of mine who was like, did you all know that you could just like be the person who like designs indoor plantscapes?
Alexis : And I was like, yeah.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : I said, where do you think, who do you think planned out the malls?
Plant People: I did a little bit that, yeah.
Alexis : And she was like, I didn't know this was a real job.
Plant People: Somebody has to take care of those, right? And it takes a budget and it takes intentionality and yeah, it is it is.
Alexis : Yeah. it's It's hardcore, right? Like a plant dies and everybody and their brother sees it.
Plant People: I think it adds ah adds a layer, adds a dimension, yeah.
Brett: Well, that sense of luxury, I think, and it's a blend of luxury and it's also like there's a softness to it too.
Alexis : oh
Plant People: Mm-hmm, yep.
Brett: in ah in ah I'm thinking of an era where you're building a lot of very like angular metal, glass, corporate, chic, industrial feeling buildings.
Plant People: Yeah. Yeah.
Alexis : Industrial.
Brett: It was really important to do that.
Plant People: mm-hmm
Brett: And I think also like a lot of those malls would have glass, like part of the ceiling would be glass, like skylight, atrium kind of vibe.
Plant People: yeah like atrium kind of yeah
Alexis : Yeah.
Brett: And it it's the, it kind is like this recapturing of this, what I associate with like an old school English estate with a glass greenhouse on it.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: And so again, back to that notion of luxury.
Alexis : yeah
Brett: um And I think about now, like the houseplants we have in our house, like all the plants we have in our house and stuff, it would feel really weird without them there, despite the fact that they weren't there for the first even eight, nine years we lived here.
Alexis : who
Brett: that's ah That's a funny one. But you Ray, you pointed out um like in the 80s, there was kind of maybe like a... How did how did you describe like the difference between the 80s and the ninety s Because for for me, the 90s, touchstone ah plant, the impact of the plants on the film was Jurassic Park.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: Where you just felt like, I mean, I think they filmed it in Borneo or somewhere, or maybe it was set and supposed to be set in Borneo or whatever, but like a rainforest. And if you're in and near a rainforest, you're going to have be dominated by plants and other, I mean, other organisms too.
Brett: But um what was the thing you were saying about the, like the nineties,
Plant People: Yeah, you're going into the green wall. Yeah.
Plant People: It seems like ah you know just thinking back, which you know that's looking back a long time now for me, okay people. That's going way back. I came of age in the 80s. I'm an 80s baby. I consider that. But it seems like in the 80s, trends were more, I don't know if it was kind of the domination of plants, ah that if you were a plant in the 80s, you were going to be sheared to a very formal shape.
Plant People: You were going to be controlled and, you know, put in a certain way. And now that you can't apply that universally, but just that was just kind of an armchair observation I had made looking back on the 80s that there wasn't such a focus that the 90s had. Once we got to the 90s, people, we had like Rainforest Cafe went mainstream. OK, there was restaurants dedicated two jungle themes. There was Captain Planet, and we mentioned Ferngully, Once Upon a Forest, and all of these other movies and pop culture. Something shifted between the 80s and the 90s.
Plant People: I don't know if it was a certain amount of social awareness or what exactly, you know, what group and or series of events.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Alexis : Environmental groups.
Plant People: Yeah, what led to that, but there was ah there's definitely a shift for me going from the 80s to the 90s that there's much more awareness you know than there was it just for me personally once again probably not a universal ah true to them
Brett: Yeah, I don't know. I think that's i think that's pretty right on, like a kind of focus on on alleged progress in technology and modernization through the 80s, along with kind of like –
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: a certain um ah economic optimism followed by a real lack of economic optimism coming into the nineties. And then you have like the kind of Clinton year resurgence of, okay, it it's the economy and we're going to fix that. And we're going to, but it turns out there's all these other environmental reports coming out that, you know, global warming as they called it then, and that the ah pollution and other things are having these effects. And you have this emergence of like a, I guess that was the,
Brett: third wave of feminism or like ah a new wave of feminism, a new wave of sexual revolution, et cetera, kind of parallel in the sixties, that there was this reconnection with nature in a similar way of the flower children of the sixties.
Alexis : Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: I don't, I don't think that that's off like super off at all.
Plant People: I kind of felt that.
Brett: I think it's, it ah was really like, Oh yeah. And, and I would be very curious to see a media media studies piece about that.
Plant People: i mean.
Plant People: Yeah, I'd love to see it I mean, for me to notice that at that age or to reflect back on it must have been big for it to get through this thick demeanor.
Alexis : of
Plant People: It must it must have it but must have been it must have been pretty significant because, you know, and it's easier to see once I look back on it, we got to talking about it.
Alexis : ah
Brett: Oh, we all know that's not true, Mr. Blue Side of the Mountain.
Plant People: I was like, yeah, I kind of you guys mentioned all these really super cool pop references. i was like, yeah, I kind of felt that in the 90s. And of course, I attended a certain type of college at that time in the mid 90s.
Plant People: And, you know, it was, First and foremost, it and Ag and Natural Resources became sustainable Ag and Natural Resources degree.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: You know, even the degrees were changing names at that time in academia. There started to be, you know, this a huge wave of talk of sustainability and considerations beyond the now.
Plant People: ah So, yeah.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Plant People: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. like I said, environmental groups, if that was the genesis of that or just, you know, the environmental factors or what led to that. But I felt it yeah in pop culture and it was expressed all across pop culture.
Plant People: You guys had mentioned even more, you know, pop culture references. The jungle theme was, you know, throughout.
Alexis : And like the Jungle Book came out in the 90s.
Plant People: i was going to say Kipling. Yeah.
Alexis : And
Plant People: The book and the other Disney. Yeah.
Alexis : um what what what was the movie the jung with the game?
Plant People: yeah
Alexis : The Jungle Game?
Plant People: Jumanji, yeah.
Alexis : Jumanji. Yeah.
Brett: Oh, Jumanji.
Plant People: Yeah, I think about the drums in Jumanji.
Alexis : hu the The vines that were like, so you know, attacking you you had get through them and ah all the different
Plant People: Oh, yeah, all of that.
Alexis : all the different ones. Yeah.
Plant People: But it was a good it was a good time.
Alexis : What else? Who else has got one? Brett, you got another one?
Brett: me think.
Alexis : Other than the Karate Kid?
Plant People: Yeah, you you mentioned, you started mentioning...
Brett: Other than the Karate Kid, which set me on my path to become a bonsai guy.
Plant People: Which, Brett, did I hear you right when you said, oh I didn't really think about the Bonsai much when I was watching Craig? Did you just say that?
Brett: Correct.
Plant People: I was shocked.
Brett: I did not even remember that it happened.
Plant People: I was absolutely shocked when you said that.
Alexis : Mm-mm.
Brett: i didn't, there was no, cause like in it, in the first one, it's like this tool of discipline or like this tool to demonstrate discipline and and peace and whatever.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: And I think in the second one, one of his bones, I get stolen.
Alexis : I was say, yeah this... Yeah, there's one where he's like in Japan, like collecting the bonsai.
Brett: and i i could be making this up.
Plant People: Yeah.
Plant People: Yeah. And they they did...
Alexis : Yeah.
Brett: And they like pull it up with a rope or something.
Alexis : Yeah.
Brett: Um,
Plant People: It became one of the characters, yeah.
Brett: Yeah. I mean, I'm, you know, Ray, I'm not a big Hollywood guy. I'm more about, more about, more about Broadway than I am about, or more about main street than I am about wall street.
Alexis : ah
Brett: Um, or I don't know, whatever, whatever other thing I need to say to, no, I, I just never, I never thought about it.
Plant People: You know, it's the kind of vibe. It's the kind of vibe, yeah.
Brett: Cause, cause honestly, I wasn't really a big plant person until I was older. Um, like much, much older, ah And so that's why I was kind of curious from your all's perspective, if you had some formative memories of plants or something that, you know, that you you saw.
Brett: ah Alexis, you said that you you were ah a sacred garden or sacred garden, a secret garden ah girly back in the day.
Alexis : Yeah, you just said that and it just made me think of like, but Like plants have always been like a part of some like point into my life in the way of, of it wasn't like, it doesn't feel formative in the same way of like, oh, there was this revolution in my brain of like, oh, you know, plants are here and I can do something. It was just sort of like, they've always been there. It'd be weird if they weren't. And, and so it was more, it'd be, it's more like that. Like, yes, I took it a lot further and was like, I'm going to have all of these degrees, but, uh,
Alexis : It was, it was just, you know, we had the garden. My mom loved her, you know, um flower, like had a really large established flower gardens outside.
Plant People: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : Like she knew about trees. It was just like, you spent time in the woods and i don't know, it just was, you know, there was just like this nature of, I don't know any other way to be.
Brett: Yeah.
Alexis : So I'm just going to take it to the next level. Yeah.
Brett: Hmm.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : um
Plant People: My grandmother always had like dried, always thought it was so fascinating. She would have things drying on her porch all the way around, whether it was shucky beans or whether it was garlic braided.
Alexis : good
Plant People: But I was like, I was like, my granny's a witchy woman.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: I didn't know, I didn't know what to call it, but like there's all these herbs and stuff that grandmother always had drying out on a kind of an old tin porch and It was just interesting. Like you said, Alexis, I mean, that's not pop culture.
Plant People: I know we're diverging off little bit, but I mean, these are the things that, you know, big things that formed us.
Alexis : No, yeah, sorry. It's not pop culture, but.
Plant People: And we've talked some about that before, you know, as far as our experience, just experiences in general growing up.
Alexis : i I have a book that I brought up before, but for a different like reason.
Plant People: And I remember that.
Alexis : ah You know, those of you who've been listening for a while know that like my goal is to one day be a falconer. And one of the books that inspired me when I was really young was My Side of the Mountain. But like one of the things before I like kind of knew falconry was a real thing, like when I was younger, the reason I loved My Side of the Mountain is because he lived in a tree.
Alexis : Like that was, that was the best part was like, he lived in a tree, like said, lived off the land.
Brett: Mmm.
Alexis : And then like, he had this Falcon that helped him live off the land.
Plant People: You make me think of a children's book, Alexis.
Alexis : But that was like,
Plant People: What's with the little bunny curled up in a hollow tree? i am a bunny.
Alexis : um, oh, I don't know that one.
Plant People: I am a bunny. That's the, that's like ah when you said that, but yeah, i that's one of the first kids books I ever remember. And I've forgotten about that until this time, but I am a bunny.
Alexis : oh really? Yeah. Yeah, I just like, I wanted to live in a tree in the woods.
Plant People: So cool.
Alexis : Like I still kind of want to live in a tree.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : I still absolutely want to live in a tree in the woods.
Plant People: Still you have aspirations. Yeah, absolutely.
Alexis : So any book where it was like someone was like living off the land, but like in the forest. I don't know how, why I didn't become a forester. Somehow I got into another direction, but.
Plant People: I almost did. Yeah, I was infatuated with ah forestry and, and, you know, that that started my love of, you know, like what you're describing there is love of ecosystems and systems in general, ah just as they relate to each other.
Alexis : Yeah.
Alexis : yeah
Plant People: And then I went down the mushroom path, you know, while I was in college and, you know, the micro-arisol kind of things. And yeah, the the systems working together.
Alexis : Apparently I've been like planning for the apocalypse and to live off the land since I was a child. All my favorite books were like, someone is lost in the wilderness and they must survive.
Brett: Yeah, that checks that checks a lot ah checks out a lot.
Plant People: That checks a lot of boxes, Alexis, yeah.
Brett: and did i'll I'll share something about myself that gives a count. It's not about plants, but it's a counter that when I was a kid, I legitimately, the boogeyman concept was specifically ah Saddam Hussein in my closet.
Plant People: Very specific, very specific.
Alexis : But not the what was the other one you were threatened with the toe?
Brett: The tow woman was more of a cultural thing.
Alexis : Okay, creepy.
Brett: In my family, it was a woman who had a necklace where her, her, the, the jewels on the necklace were the, the toe bones of children who didn't have, who were caught out of bed without permission.
Plant People: Kind of terrifying.
Brett: So that's, that was a trans, that was transplanted.
Alexis : But the boogeyman.
Plant People: little
Brett: Right. But I was more about the WMDs that were, turns out, let's not, you know, we're going all the way back because this is making me realize as we talk about all the other things, as you all talk about, you know, you became plant people.
Brett: I still, and I should have known, you know, white guy in America wasn't good, wasn't good odds, but I still have not painted with all the colors of the wind.
Plant People: Oh, man, you're going back to Disney. I love it.
Brett: every Yeah, I never heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon.
Plant People: Disney references.
Alexis : Chef's kiss.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: i and i haven't i've been met a greeting bobcat to ask why he grins.
Alexis : Wow.
Plant People: You even mentioned like Beauty and the Beast.
Alexis : Wow.
Plant People: I mean, the the plant references in that group of work by that company is pretty amazing when you consider, you know, all the animated series and stuff like that.
Brett: andh
Alexis : Grandmother Willow, ah the best.
Brett: Yeah.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: Yes.
Plant People: Mm-hmm.
Brett: Yes. Yes.
Alexis : but as it It doesn't get better than Grandmother Willow.
Brett: So powerful.
Plant People: I was like, oh, that's the Entwives. I thought immediately as a child when I first saw that, I thought that's the Entwives. And and ah no, it wasn't. Unfortunately, I was dashed.
Brett: So, okay, here's a little side side quest question for you. If you could have an ancient tree spirit whom you could go and seek for counsel or just hang out and vibe with or whatever, movable like an ant or not, either way, what species do you think you would pick that you would want to to that you would want for your spirit homie to be
Alexis : American beach.
Plant People: earn
Brett: You're obsessed with it.
Plant People: Not a tricolor.
Alexis : I mean, first of all, can you blame me? Second of all, the American beach is like the, the bark, the skin, like I could just see like the, the creases of the, the ancient wise, you know, spirits like it's.
Brett: No.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Plant People: And it's very ghostly in the woods.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Plant People: It looks like a spirit.
Alexis : Yeah. And in the winter time, it just like holds on all of its leaves. So it looks like a little ghosty, um,
Brett: Mm.
Alexis : I feel like you judged me right there for that, but I'm going to let it go.
Brett: So no, I'm saying let's get one planted because that's like, you want to get one planted.
Alexis : My 2026 goal. Yeah, there's.
Brett: And I'm like, if you, if you want, let's get it in the ground so that your tree homie can start taking root.
Plant People: Literally.
Brett: Yeah, literally.
Plant People: Walk in a garden plant a seed. We've not even talked about music, by the way. What was that? I veered off there. planet to see That's lyrics, but yeah, I digress.
Brett: Let me, let me, something about peaches and shaking the tree.
Plant People: I forget what that song is.
Alexis : others
Plant People: What is that? Yeah, well, Millions of Peaches for Free.
Alexis : The watermelon crawl? What?
Plant People: That's a different song. Yeah. and Watermelon Crawl. That features a plant ah that prominently features a horticultural thing.
Alexis : Sorry, I'm a horticulturist, so watermelon.
Plant People: and me I love the fact that you immediately went to watermelon crawl. I did you not see that coming.
Brett: uh watermelon crawl wow yeah that's a good it's a good outside guess that's a ah sort of 90s uh anthem for
Plant People: Not in a million years. I kind of did. I kind of, bit kind of we were we went from, yeah, we went from ethereal, beautiful, ghostly beach trees to crawling, you know, doing a watermelon crawl.
Brett: take taking the stance against against impaired driving might i add if you drink don't drive to the watermelon crawl uh
Plant People: Yes. Yes. a Absolutely.
Alexis : true what's your ancient spirit tree should we be so lucky
Plant People: Yeah. Well, what's your tree, Brent? I don't want to move on without knowing your tree. Yeah.
Brett: I don't know. I'm kind of looking for i'm kind of looking for good ideas. um I think i think a a Hemlock could be really cool.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: I tend to be like an evergreen kind of guy.
Alexis : that like like suga canadensis
Brett: Willow is a really good shout for one. obviously for the you know ah the Was it Mother Willow?
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : Grandmother Willa.
Brett: Grandmother Willow.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : Grandmother Willa.
Brett: yeah um That's a good really good shout. I don't know. Do you have one, Ray?
Plant People: I'd probably have to go back to Sycamore. I mean, just because i absolutely love the bark on that.
Brett: Oh, that's right.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Brett: That's right. You said that.
Plant People: And the white, it's the white. I love that on that.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: It's very...
Brett: well the branch then were All the crazy branch angles on of Wars are also just in insane.
Plant People: it
Plant People: Yeah. And the exposure in the wintertime. it's got little balls that can fly down hit you in the head. I mean, it's great.
Alexis : idiot.
Plant People: It's wonderful.
Alexis : Why did you do
Plant People: Yeah. It's like here, if it has projectiles it can throw. Absolutely. alex It's absolutely.
Alexis : that?
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : If Josh were here, he would say like a burr oak or something, probably.
Plant People: Oh, probably some very fun and functional.
Alexis : a chinkapin oak.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: I'm trying to think that's a tough one, Brett. Yeah. a Good question.
Brett: I just feel i feel like i i want some money I want one that's like a little more zany. You know, I feel like an oak tree or ah like a sycamore. I mean, not a sycamore. A redwood or something like that is sequoia.
Plant People: Brit is a smoke tree.
Alexis : Willow.
Plant People: Yeah.
Brett: It's a little it's a little like, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Alexis : too obvious.
Plant People: It's a little on my nose, yeah.
Brett: like
Plant People: You wanna be a sneaky understory tree?
Brett: That's why i like I like willow as an option. A ginkgo would probably be wild.
Plant People: Ancient tree? Yeah.
Brett: It'd be like...
Plant People: I'm dropping all of my leaves at the same room.
Alexis : Imagine, imagine, um, grandmother ginkgo throwing stinky fruit at you and just be like, you idiot.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Plant People: Perfect, yes.
Brett: You fool.
Plant People: People that we don't like, we claim their spirit tree is Bradford pears. then Don't put that on anyone.
Brett: You are giving Bradford Pear tree spirit right now.
Plant People: Negative.
Brett: And let's just
Alexis : energy.
Plant People: ah Do not need to do that. Yeah.
Brett: So it.
Alexis : I think that might be my, um, what I'm gonna, like, if I'm have to be mean to people or like call them off, I'm just gonna be like, you know, you're really giving some Bradford pair energy right now.
Plant People: Nice.
Alexis : And I'm going need you to switch that up to something better.
Plant People: Nice.
Brett: Mm-hmm.
Alexis : Thanks.
Brett: Before I break your branch off.
Alexis : An ice storm is coming for you, Bradford pair.
Plant People: Or if you,
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: an ice storm is coming, winter is coming. Just say winter is coming.
Alexis : when The windstorm is coming.
Plant People: Yeah.
Alexis : I am the wind.
Brett: I sense a strong wind out of the West.
Plant People: That's a that's a that's throwing literal shade, Alexis. That's throwing literal shade.
Brett: Oh,
Plant People: When you tell somebody they have weak weak branch angles, don't ever do that. With a botanist, you're going to cause a fight.
Alexis : You call that a branch angle?
Plant People: Yeah, wow.
Alexis : out of here.
Plant People: Your embedded bark is hideous. Yeah, just go at them. Go at them, yeah.
Brett: Well, so what about any more recent? Any, any but like, do you have?
Plant People: Avatar.
Brett: Yeah, okay.
Plant People: Avatar. How do we forget Avatar?
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: That's a systems movie.
Alexis : Yeah,
Plant People: You guys mentioned Trees, Brett. and And I haven't watched the latest Avatar. There's a third one. But the first and second...
Alexis : yeah it's in theater.
Brett: I haven't seen either of the sequels.
Plant People: Like they, ah the original one was, i mean, prominently featured the forest and how the forest interacted as a one singular system.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: You know, in there, there was a mythology of Gaia, this, you know, overarching entity, but it basically was a forest system, an ecosystem where things are interconnected.
Brett: Yeah.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: But that's more modern, I was thinking. Yeah.
Brett: Yeah, I kind of saw that as like a blend of of forest and fungal networking energy, you know, which was really cool.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Yes, the fungal angle. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Alexis : yeah Like the Aspens and yeah.
Plant People: Yes, one single large you know organism.
Brett: Mm hmm.
Plant People: I was trying to think in and more recent, I'm trying to think.
Brett: One of the movies, you you talked about like the um the like the environment being a big part of the of the movie or of the whatever. ah One of them that I go back and watch regularly, not for the plot, but just because of the feel of it, including a lot of trees and plants, is The Revenant.
Alexis : Mm-hmm.
Plant People: oh
Alexis : oh
Plant People: Oh, yeah. Which environment versus man kind of thing almost.
Brett: Leo DiCaprio? So brutal. Because like, yeah, the bear attack got a lot of hype and it yeah it was intense, but like...
Plant People: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Brett: Just the, these, trees like thinking that these trees that have survived dozens, hundreds of years have gone through this cycle that he's experiencing this one time over and over and over again.
Plant People: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Brett: And like how, yeah, the interaction, I watched a really interesting YouTube video called reading and just recently called reading the forested landscape. um It's by this dude, it was this, it featured this guy who's a professor up at a place called Antioch College. And he was talking about like,
Brett: essentially being able to do a little bit of like a forensic botanical analysis of the space just by like seeing different things. And he talked about these things called ah pillows and cradles where like uprooted trees have fallen over and created a pillow. And what's behind is a cradle. And if it's anyway, it just made me think about that kind of ah that movie and that feeling of like,
Brett: existing within, within the environment of the plants and and just focusing on how humanity is just a part of that. And often at our, at, to, to our damage.
Plant People: Yeah. ah
Alexis : that movie I like have a vivid memory of watching for the first time and being like
Plant People: It's very visceral. Yeah.
Alexis : what is what is happening and I was young I watched with my parents yeah and I was like I don't know if I should be watching this like I was like I don't I don't they were like it's rated r but it's not like you know the kind you've rated r you can't watch and I was like oh okay and I remember just being I don't I don't actually think I should be watching this I don't
Brett: It's so visually intense. Yeah. Yeah.
Plant People: um You mentioned, yeah, I didn't feel it. Yeah.
Brett: Don't worry.
Plant People: It's very intense.
Brett: You won't see any nudity, but you will see a dude getting his absolute self getting ripped up by a grizzly bear.
Alexis : yeah yeah yeah yep
Plant People: It's, it's not call of the wild. Like you remember.
Brett: Hmm.
Plant People: Yeah. Yeah. You know, we, I'm going to bring it back to books. Cause that's what I do. Uh, I think of all the, like the Hemingways of the world. And I think of, uh, you know, Jack London.
Plant People: and how you know they prominently featured all this, or or more modern books. like I'm thinking Alexis, like um Naomi Novik's Pruited, where you know was the pride the primary character was a forest.
Alexis : Oh, yeah.
Plant People: ah But yeah, literature, I'm thinking, you know I still read books about plants to this very day.
Alexis : Or what was that other book? I think, I don't know if you sent it to me or I sent it to you. It's like Dark Window or something like that.
Plant People: Yes, yeah, basically herbology, yeah, and plants.
Alexis : And all of the... all of the Yeah, all of the names in the book were Latin names for plants.
Plant People: Yes.
Alexis : And if you knew enough about um if you knew enough about plants and how they're related, you could you you kind of figured out the end because she like paired these families.
Alexis : you know They have two different last names, but they were both in the same like genus. And you like you figure it out in the end because you're like, wait a second.
Plant People: They're compatible.
Alexis : theses are And I was like, it was so brilliantly done for like it didn't ruin anything for anybody. But like it gave plant nerds like a little little extra. o
Plant People: I know. That's definitely one of those.
Brett: inside track on figure it out.
Plant People: it It's so specific. It felt like a niche book, in other words.
Brett: Hmm.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: Yeah. and And I think all the magazines, and I'm really dating myself now, is I think about all the actual real-world physical magazines of, you know, Mom used to go to these flea markets. She she knew that I loved, you know, old magazines, old and new.
Plant People: It didn't matter if was National Geo or Good Housekeeping or Southern Living. any i loved to look through magazines. One of my favorite things was, like, all the cottagecore stuff. all the cozy looking log cabins with plants on the inside and dried lavender bunches.
Brett: Hmm.
Plant People: It's that kind of vibe you got going on. I think of all the magazines, I guess the equivalent now would be all the digital, you know, formats that everything's in nowadays.
Alexis : Pinterest.
Plant People: Yeah. Well, Pinterest basically, I get on there all the time. I'm looking in for my intensive square foot gardening stuff, but yeah. And I love the fact that social media has brought a lot of this stuff, elevated it back, you know, things ebb and flow, you know, in themes, but, uh, I feel like right now we're on kind of a high note for like, you know, indoor plant spaces and things.
Plant People: If you look at all the content on like TikTok or Pinterest, I mean, this stuff is really prominently featured as, you know, things that are commonly searched for, you know, that's kind of comes to the top of things.
Alexis : the
Plant People: And I love that. And we've, we've alluded to that on the show before with, even with different guests and they've mentioned, you know, the prominence of plants featured in social media. And I really enjoy that. And, you know, great.
Alexis : Or even just like a, you know, natural wood and, you know, how it softens a space and, you know.
Plant People: Yeah, we had that cool discussion, you know, with Robinson Center representatives and stuff. And yeah, perfect. Perfect. Bringing the outdoor world in.
Alexis : Well, hopefully we've unlocked some memories for you people.
Brett: Well, yeah.
Alexis : If you're like the troll in Central Park, and I'm immediately going to figure out how i need how I can own it because I need to watch it.
Brett: yeah
Plant People: I have to go back and watch that now, Alexis. I barely remember that. And I love the fact you brought that up because now I need to it's bugging me that I can't get that completely formed in my mind.
Alexis : There was another one that came out at the same time that was also like featured around Central Park, but like not planty, but it was like ah dinosaurs, I think is what it was called or something dinosaurs.
Plant People: It's awesome.
Alexis : um Yeah. So I'll, it's not the same one, but it all came out like this.
Plant People: No, not the same one, yeah.
Alexis : same I remember at all those VHS or at like the same time and I just cycled through them.
Plant People: Yes, I'm so sad I got rid of most of my VHS collection. I am so sad. I want them back so badly.
Brett: So if we have any clear omissions that we, how can these morons not have thought of this one?
Plant People: And there are plenty, I'm sure, and we want to know about them.
Brett: Please leave a comment, send send us a comment or leave them a comment on Instagram, on one of our platforms and let us know. And if we get enough of those, we will do a second episode and episode two featuring all of our errata about the terrible omissions that we made along with everything else.
Brett: that we think about that we think of between now and then. um I've already thought of a couple, but I won't spoil it.
Alexis : Jessica probably has some really good ones too.
Plant People: Oh, she would have.
Alexis : So we we'll have to bring them out.
Brett: Yeah, bet so.
Plant People: Yeah, for sure.
Alexis : Yeah.
Plant People: yeah
Alexis : Awesome. Well, we appreciate you guys being here, listening, leave us a review with what we forgot. When you leave us your, your five stars, hopefully go watch some good movies or read some books that channeled you into the plant life, or the plant lifestyle. But we appreciate you being here and we hope you join us next time.
Alexis : Have a great one.
