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Daily Liverpool: We're out of the FA Cup... - Plymouth Argyle 1-0 Liverpool (Post-match reaction)
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A depressed Louie Easton and Karl Coppack try to make sense of our loss at Home Park.
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Liverpool's Shocking FA Cup Loss
00:00:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to Daily Liverpool on the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Louis Easton. Joining me today is Karl Karpak and, well, I can't believe I'm saying this.
00:00:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've just lost to Plymouth Argyle in the FA Cup.
Team Selection Criticism
00:00:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Karl, I mean, this is inexcusable, really, isn't it? For a team of our quality, I understand we're playing the youngsters, but it all went wrong, didn't it?
00:00:31
Karl
Yeah. Yeah. The, um, all right. So the manager you got it wrong. Um, he absolutely got it wrong. And, um, we needed more backup than we got the Gomez thing. Absolutely setting backwards. Um, because suddenly you've got to play a kid at right back. Um, uh, you know, ended up getting taken it off anyway, which is not his fault. Um, I think you go there with a little bit stronger than what he did. I was quite surprised at some of the, uh, um,
00:01:01
Karl
uh, some of the choices I like, jaron sir but, uh, I, yeah, yeah, it's, I mean, yeah yeah if if he stays with Gomez, it's good enough. and I don't mean, but I just thought, I thought I'm not having to go to the kids at all.
00:01:13
Karl
I'm really, really don't want to go to the kids. I thought McConnell did okay. It means a shame about his mess, obviously. But, um, I don't think that cat, I don't think he was expecting that somehow.
00:01:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:21
Karl
Um, It's the senior players, it's the forward line. I'm i'm furious with more than anything else because they were playing like it but was beyond them. And I get the whole, I've been on social media, I've been told to pieces and I've backed down a bit.
00:01:33
Karl
I called on a slot everything for basically saying, why are you bringing on a frail kid when you can't control them in a field and you've got an England international on the bench? Why not try and win the game mates? But apparently Jones was injured.
00:01:45
Karl
He was there in name only.
00:01:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, for goodness sakes.
00:01:46
Karl
Yeah. right but it was don' they It wasn't that it's not a big one, but they'd why why risk it? And I get that completely. That makes perfect sense.
Liverpool Outplayed by Plymouth
00:01:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Should have just brought more players really, shouldn't we? I mean, I understand the whole, you know, we're playing against the team struggling in the championship, but Arna Slott said it himself.
00:02:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is like a cup final for them. They're going to be playing out of their skin. And we saw that they did.
00:02:06
Karl
And that's, and that's my big game.
00:02:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
And
00:02:08
Karl
We got bullies. We got bullied because they wanted it more. And and i'm I'm fine with saying in that. And and i I'm reading lots of stuff about, you know, yeah, but you know, the bigger game is when it's difficult to pick a game as well as I'm not really stupid, but, um ah there was There was an awful lack of application.
00:02:25
Karl
And I'm um i'm talking about Elliot, I'm talking about Jota, I'm talking about Diaz, I'm talking about Kiaza. I want them to go to a game and think, Jesus, these are up for it, let's get up for it too.
00:02:36
Karl
And I don't, we did, we didn't get up.
00:02:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:39
Karl
and We spent the first half knocking the ball around the back, which is fair enough because their kids, you know, they just want to touch the ball and get confident, and get confident. I get that completely. But the forward line, bloody hell. And no one moved.
00:02:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I know you're criticising the senior players. Do you have any sympathy at all for Osaru Endo? Because he had to go into centre back, he wasn't prepared to do that, and he had to suffer because Joe Gomez clearly wasn't ready to play yet.
00:03:02
Karl
Yeah, I mean, I think he eat he did okay because he because he's competitive. And to be honest, that's the sort of game he likes. He likes it when there's elbows flying all over the place and they're trying to sort of bully.
00:03:12
Karl
We shouldn't be bullied by bloody Plymouth. I mean, you know, but we got bullied by Plymouth, our guy.
00:03:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can't believe we're having to have this conversation now, bullied by Plymouth Argyle.
00:03:24
Karl
Yeah.
00:03:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
All I can say is, thank god Wayne Rooney isn't their manager still, because can you imagine? We wouldn't hear the end of it.
Commentators' Lack of Insight
00:03:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And they parked the bus as well.
00:03:31
Karl
ah top I think I'm more disappointed that I had to listen to Sam Mattiface and Lee Dixon for two hours.
00:03:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah, don't get me started. ah Honestly, I was the most vocal person when Clive Tildesley got dropped because he was my childhood ah in the Champions League growing up, and I absolutely love him, but that's...
00:03:48
Karl
Well, Mattiface says at one point, he says, oh, we thought I was going to have to go into center back, you know, which is an unfamiliar ground for him.
00:03:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ah, I mean, just...
00:03:56
Karl
If you'd read anything about it, he plays for years in center back.
00:03:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's like he doesn't do his research, it's...
00:04:02
Karl
Yeah. Just so bad.
00:04:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not unfamiliar territory, it's just not his favourite position, and well...
00:04:09
Karl
He's played maybe, that' I don't know, I don't know, maybe a dozen times Liverpool has said it, but I don't know.
00:04:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:16
Karl
Well, and I think it's also because Joe Gomez had gone off, you know, it was, I don't know. It's just just just a bad day.
00:04:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:22
Karl
I thought i thought the seniors are awful. i And they'll get the pass.
00:04:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it that's where we were let down. And also, you know, so I thought it was crazy that we started both Gomez and Jotter and they were our two captains today.
00:04:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
um do Do you have any sympathy for Jotter? I understand he had a very difficult game, um his first game back.
00:04:38
Karl
No.
00:04:41
Karl
No, both of you so bad, both of you is really bad.
00:04:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
but it was It was not a good showing for his first game back.
00:04:44
Karl
um
00:04:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, the ah other than the volley where it was towards the end, that was unbelievable.
00:04:50
Karl
um Which is great.
00:04:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
But other than that, so he didn't really have a pop at goal.
00:04:56
Karl
There was one moment where he sort of, we we broke down in the middle and we got through and he basically just sort of rolled it to a centre back and I just thought, get get off the pitch, mate. Get off the pitch. You're not starting to derby.
00:05:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:05:07
Karl
If you're going to do that and it it was, you know, it wasn't a challenge or anything like that. He just sort of ran out of options and just sort of, I don't know what to do at Plymouth Hargyle. I mean, you know, you absolutely do.
00:05:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
You have to give credit to Plymouth, though, because they defended unbelievably well.
00:05:20
Karl
Yeah.
00:05:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, that Nicola Katiche guy ah swearing on the TV after the match, he was unbelievable.
00:05:23
Karl
Yeah.
00:05:26
Karl
All fine with that.
Plymouth's Defense Praised
00:05:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Hazard in goal, well, I'll say haard Hazard, I'm so used to saying Hazard, he in goal was unbelievable.
00:05:32
Karl
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's amazing to think he only made four saves, but they were all so important.
00:05:40
Karl
Yeah. um but um but Again, in all the races, the fact we did, we didn't do anything for 80 minutes until we suddenly got the nine minutes injury time. And then we started playing and push them back when they got tired. Then we're getting cramped and stuff like that. Um, yeah, absolutely full credit to them. Um, they got the penalty. It was a penalty. It was a stupid thing, but, um, we didn't, we didn't have any answers on this disappointing move. I live with all the answers for the answer, things like that. Cause you're going to play teams who aren't as good as you who are going to work harder than you. And you have to overcome that.
00:06:08
Karl
And we didn't do that today, and we did not like we were ever going to do it. Again, they were saying on the teller, oh yeah, there's nine minutes, you know, even if Liverpool score. What a day this is for Plymouth. They thought, I've got to score? Have you seen us?
00:06:18
Karl
We haven't been near their box.
Refereeing Controversies
00:06:20
Karl
But I thought they were actually on Plymouth. I like the big line up front, that's what Bondo thought would be very good.
00:06:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bunder, yeah.
00:06:26
Karl
Yeah, the referee was terrible. They're all going to be terrible, aren't they?
00:06:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh It makes you miss VAR, doesn't it?
00:06:34
Karl
Yeah.
00:06:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Seeing that match.
00:06:35
Karl
Jesus, that was...
00:06:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was so annoying as well when the offsides were being given, even though they did they kept possession. ah and ah you just You just miss it because it takes the sting out of the game a bit.
00:06:44
Karl
Yeah.
00:06:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know Plymouth are used to it and we're not, but that's no excuse at all. It's just it's frustrating as a fan watching it more than anything.
00:06:53
Karl
Yeah.
00:06:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I'd like to talk more about Harvey Elliott as well, obviously the man who gave away the penalty. He hasn't had too much playing time this season. I really thought this would be it. He obviously had his issues with injury earlier in the year as well, but I mean, it was no it was a complete off day for him.
00:07:08
Karl
Yeah.
00:07:14
Karl
It's like the ground of me. Absolutely. It's like the ground. that is There's an argument. So he's our worst player. I can't think of anyone who had a worse game than him. And even, even without the penalty thing, there was so many loose touches.
00:07:25
Karl
There was like both being on the hit or overplayed or more.
00:07:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and it was the balls at the end as well when he was trying to punt it up the pitch. um ah that It just looked hopeless, really.
00:07:33
Karl
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, And again, for me, that that's just a a lack of, not even application. I grew up, the manager said we worked hard enough, but we would we didn't create, we need to create more.
00:07:47
Karl
We didn't create for 80 minutes. And he's a senior player. He's an international player. And but and there was just so much, it's almost like the game was beneath him somehow.
00:07:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm, yeah.
00:07:58
Karl
Like if if I'm not winning this in the first 15 minutes, then I don't like this. And he just sort of,
00:08:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
It seems odd to criticise Harvey Elliott based on effort, because he was he's the one that runs more than anyone else, but it just it looked completely hopeless today.
00:08:08
Karl
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:08:13
Karl
Yeah, but but what he's told me today is he's not starting the derby, is he?
00:08:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, absolutely.
00:08:18
Karl
ah Yeah, exactly.
00:08:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, he wouldn't have played today if he was starting the derby, but I mean, that just confirms it.
00:08:21
Karl
yeah and
00:08:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, we see the difference when Sobelslei plays, and we didn't we took that for granted earlier this season.
00:08:26
Karl
Yeah.
00:08:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now,
00:08:29
Karl
There's an argument said that's obviously a place today we went.
00:08:32
Karl
just good get Because a had every single he' got he's got every single thing that you don't want to if you're if that's your game to press, because he just wouldn't...
00:08:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
that but Yeah, I hear that as well.
00:08:41
Karl
I mean, Sombra Slide doesn't let the opposition alone. We we we didn't go near the opposition today.
00:08:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I also think as well, one of the main reasons we lost was, I mean, it it all went downhill when Gomez went off, obviously, but you look at our back line, it was Timokas Endo out, slightly out of position as Sam Matterface highlighted earlier.
00:08:48
Karl
ah yeah
00:08:56
Karl
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:09:04
Karl
but Top pond, if that matters.
00:09:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
top.
00:09:06
Karl
Yeah.
00:09:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
hey this It was Timakas, it was ah Endo, it was Kwanzaa, and it was Mabaya and McConnell went back into midfield.
00:09:16
Karl
Yeah.
00:09:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that defense was being covered by the inexperienced Nione and McConnell as well.
00:09:21
Karl
Yeah.
00:09:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I understand that you can't really point the finger at them as much as the forward senior players, but I mean, You really miss someone like Virgil van Dyke who can just play out of the back naturally because I thought I thought my but my buyer when he came on ah I know it says Debut but he kept on passing it backwards.
00:09:34
Karl
I think they just because they just want yeah I mean I mean that's perfectly understandable because you just want to think all I want to do is hit a white shirt every single time I pass the ball and you don't want to take risks.
00:09:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was sort of scared to take on Yeah
00:09:54
Karl
because you just want to get through and think, I had a sound debut for Liverpool today. um I did really like, I'd say the manager got a lot wrong, but I did like the fact the manager pulled him and said, this is why I'm doing it. It's not against you. It's about the system I'm going to play now. And I can't, you can't be a part of that. Also, he didn't have a bad game or anything like that, but it's a bit unlucky with the booking, I think, but he's booking every everyone at that point. ah And you can't really do that. And then the midfield, I really liked McConnell. I think McConnell's got a future.
Defensive Woes and Young Talent
00:10:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think so.
00:10:21
Karl
I just wish the two of them had someone in there with them. And that's why I was really, you know, yeah as Jones did what didn't get on and just sit between them and say, right, we do this.
00:10:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:31
Karl
That's for the next five minutes. We do this. And there was none of that. um So it was all a bit sort of panicky. And Michael scores the goal. We probably go through. So.
00:10:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just, I find it weird that Morton didn't play as well. I mean, I thought this would be the sort of game for him as well because he has, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:10:44
Karl
Yeah, it's an experienced championship player.
00:10:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's, he played plenty in the Championship for Hole. Why didn't he do it and Blackbird as well? Why doesn't he do it today? It, you know, I understand you want to give opportunities to the youngsters who came through the Academy.
00:10:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, Nione loves the club to bits. um
00:11:02
Karl
Yeah.
00:11:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
i I can't understand Slots logic before the game, you know, picking the team that he did, it just, it makes no sense to him.
00:11:07
Karl
no
00:11:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
And starting McConnell at right back, like I know I don't watch much LFC TV, I don't really watch the Academy games, but isn't his best position meant to be in midfield?
00:11:22
Karl
Yeah, he's basically six or a six adjacent player.
00:11:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
It sort of seemed sensible to put Endo in the centre back.
00:11:28
Karl
Uh, and that, and that bell, the legal fine against Chelsea last, last year, God, he was immense.
00:11:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was brilliant.
00:11:34
Karl
He was absolutely immense.
00:11:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
The tactical foul as well still lives in my mind.
00:11:37
Karl
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. He's, he's, he's not all right back.
00:11:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
any
00:11:41
Karl
I think he's got a bit of a problem with right back because if you haven't got the main one and the other ones you're resting him for the Derby, which I completely agree with, obviously. I don't know. I'm just furious about it.
00:11:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
i think that's why he risked gomez right but well not no scomez plays sense about i don't understand
00:11:53
Karl
You haven't played Santa back yet.
00:11:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:11:55
Karl
Yeah, I mean, I mean, ted it's one of those things, isn't it?
00:11:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
buts ah
00:11:58
Karl
I'm calm down about it because, I mean, Gomez and Kwanzaa, you think? Yeah, that'll do. That'll do. What you don't want is Kenate there. You know, you don't you don't want to risk that before Hizabi.
00:12:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, do you remember the League Cup match earlier in the season against Brighton?
00:12:12
Karl
Yeah.
00:12:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Where they both looked quite shaky there, I thought.
00:12:14
Karl
Yeah.
00:12:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
I still don't...
00:12:17
Karl
But but umm I'm just going to use the words it Plymouth Argyle again.
00:12:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think Quants... Yeah.
00:12:21
Karl
but that That should be alright against Plymouth Argyle, who won with the penalty. I'm fair play to them, obviously, but um but you think that that should be enough. ah i just
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just didn't think Quants was going to be good enough for Liverpool.
00:12:35
Karl
I'm not sure.
00:12:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that feels...
00:12:35
Karl
but ah I had a message from a mate in our time who said the the problem we've got with that we've got some good young players coming through, but none of them are like Owen coming through or Gerard when he had the skin edge or anything like that.
00:12:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I feels harsh, but...
00:12:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nice.
00:12:46
Karl
They're all alright, but there's nothing explosive in there.
00:12:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:12:49
Karl
And I said, technically, Well, my most could technically conscious established. I thought, I don't like Walter. I think he's got a Rick in him, but I think that's only because of his age. Obviously I love Connor Bradley, obviously, because how could you like football and not like Connor Bradley?
00:13:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:13:02
Karl
But um ah the I don't know. this's it's It's been a bit sober and I think for the a fili Academy players, the lads who got sent off against PSV, ah you know but but My bio today it went on and then got pulled.
00:13:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nalo, yeah.
00:13:17
Karl
i and um I'm fairly sure that's tech that's just a system thing, rather than anything like that. and ah I think the manager will learn a lot about his players today, but I hope he learns more about senior players than the kids, because the kids but that's a hard place to go for your debut FA Cup.
00:13:34
Karl
Bobbly pitched, or they're all into it. The referees
00:13:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And Plymouth fans are amazing as well.
00:13:39
Karl
Yeah, like I've got no problem. It's also it's a proper kit.
00:13:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:43
Karl
I like that kit. It's very good.
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, it's a lovely case.
00:13:44
Karl
ah um And I will be getting on to classic builders immediately after this podcast to get a quote for a classic builders. But yeah, let's let's just say I'm calmer now than I was at full time when I basically wanted Jogo Jota to walk home in his pants with Harvey Elliott behind him.
00:14:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah It's a long way from the south coast, a long, long way.
00:14:05
Karl
Yeah. Yeah. And I thought Nunez was all right, but then again, the, the bit where, where Jota does something really, really good.
00:14:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:14:11
Karl
He puts the ball on the six yard line and drags it across and he's nowhere near it. I think well that's your job.
00:14:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, yes, I mean, that's where he should be.
00:14:16
Karl
That's your job. What are you?
00:14:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what Nunez is actually, that's that's meant to be his best quality, his positioning.
00:14:20
Karl
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nowhere to be seen in that moment, and I was really angry with him.
00:14:24
Karl
Yeah. If you hit that, if you hit that blind, all you think is if I can run that across the six yard line, then someone
Incohesive Attack
00:14:31
Karl
will be there and it should be him. It didn't get there.
00:14:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 70 million we spent on.
00:14:35
Karl
and that's fun And there was a lot of not getting there today.
00:14:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, sums up our game really, doesn't it?
00:14:39
Karl
but
00:14:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah We're going to take a short break and we'll then we'll summarize our feelings after this.
00:15:07
Karl
stop for that
00:15:34
Karl
Okay.
00:15:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
So plenty of ah inexperienced players in a Liverpool shirt. I mean, that's essentially what it boils down to. I mean, I think the main reason we lost as well and the reason we looked so flat in the first half is because a lot of these players have never played with each other before.
00:15:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I mean, as even especially Kieza, someone who's new to our our only signing all season, and he started on the right, finished on the left, and you know he kept on having a go.
00:16:06
Karl
Yeah.
00:16:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
but Just couldn't get anything. um They were all doubling up on him, like you mentioned before.
00:16:15
Karl
i Well, there was one bet where he took the ball off Diaz. And I thought, you shouldn't be near each other. You should be on the opposite plane.
00:16:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I couldn't even understand our formation at the end because it was it seemed like Jota, Diaz and Kiez were all in the same position at the end.
00:16:27
Karl
No, I couldn't. I couldn't.
00:16:33
Karl
And with concert is a nine. despite the fact we've already got a nine at the end. um now it
00:16:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Harvey Elliott playing at centre back as well.
00:16:43
Karl
Yeah, of course you do, because of his height and his power. Yeah. Jesus Christ.
00:16:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, that's the FA Cup, that's our, I mean, I never was pushing the whole quadruple thing anyway, but that's our quadruple gone, it's our treble gone.
00:16:50
Karl
Yeah.
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah wow i Yeah, so am I.
00:17:00
Karl
um but I'm made of a Plymouth. I genuinely am happy for them. they They're a prop about being to that ground and it's a lovely place and it's an absolute 100% credit to them, but we did not make it easy for them.
00:17:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, we well, they made it very hard for us. And like it's always difficult watching Liverpool play against a team that has a really low block.
Reflections on FA Cup Miss
00:17:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I mean, that's why we struggle against Nottingham Forest, because they spend majority of their football without the ball.
00:17:24
Karl
Yeah.
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
And when that works, it's so effective against us. It really prevents us from being creative.
00:17:35
Karl
Yeah, but we didn't block them in though, did we? But we didn't block them in.
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, we didn't.
00:17:39
Karl
If it's a low block, you stand around them and basically you just pass it around until you you pull them this way and that way until you get the opening. And then then you do it that way, which is what we're good at. We we didn't get near them. There was no point where we were stringing balls across the midfield while they were all packed in.
00:17:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and it's amazing that one of our best chances came from Quavine Kelleher right at the end.
00:17:53
Karl
they was
00:17:57
Karl
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah come I mean, yeah, that's...
00:18:00
Karl
ah that if that if If that goes in.
00:18:04
Karl
Get yeah you get you get you every ticket. We're gonna win everything and it's frustrating now because I mean the other because of the other results both United Sit there, you know, sorry both Manchester comes very very close to going out Everything obviously Chelsea are out.
00:18:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and we were buzzing with the drawers at the time as well.
00:18:17
Karl
It's been it Yeah, just a bit of a waste of opportunity that I think but But humility is always welcomed I think
00:18:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, if anything, it just means we can focus more on the Premier League. I mean, that's the only positive we can take out of it. It's less midweek football.
00:18:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, and for you know for the new fans who ah started supporting Liverpool because they wanted us to win everything, they were glory hunters, that now they can understand what it's like to not have things so easy.
00:18:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
this because i mean It reminds me of the Oldham one. Do you remember the Oldham one?
00:18:48
Karl
no
00:18:53
Karl
no i was thinking that's our worst ethical appearance i was at that game i was in the second row and i've said this on other podcasts before the most damning thing for that but i remember that tie back for which is robinson jonesing girl robinson wisdom i think character in coattice i want to say no no maybe scared of the scale i think i think it was cool we play four to four
00:18:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:19:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah A Suarez was playing and captaining, I think, wasn't he?
00:19:16
Karl
ah Which was ludicrous Joanne scored his first Liverpool goal I want to say and when the fourth goal one in went in I was so close to the pitch not one player spoke to another player I'll never forget that as long as there was no come on.
00:19:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Really? i want Wow.
00:19:30
Karl
What are you doing? Oh, or you know, or like, you know, okay Well that didn't go right what what what they they didn't speak. That's the worst back floor I've ever seen That's a terrible game and an awful long drive back as well ah self lived and bond and and so South
00:19:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:45
Karl
ah
00:19:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's where I live, me.
00:19:47
Karl
Yeah, um so that's a long drive. Two things to hold them is an unpleasant there and back in the day.
00:19:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Tooting's where I was born.
00:19:53
Karl
Yeah, yeah if if you've lost two...
00:19:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's a long way from Oldham, and I mean, getting out of Tooting is an absolute nightmare as it is, with all those 20 well and hour zones.
00:20:00
Karl
If you've got to get up Trinity Road to the South Circuit and then go through the M4, that's...
00:20:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, God, I hate that area.
00:20:09
Karl
tip but that's ah
00:20:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
but That will mean nothing to the Liverpool fans.
00:20:14
Karl
Now, that's unpleasant.
00:20:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Or maybe it will, but oh god.
00:20:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
All the way to Oldham.
00:20:18
Karl
But yeah, two so doing that in a day.
00:20:20
Karl
And and and then being told by Brendan Rodgers that we were a bit unlucky. we like ah ah it it Is that the one where he said that the occasion we were a bit overawed by the occasion? Oh no, that was the that was the val that was the Villa semi-final.
00:20:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:31
Karl
We were a bit overawed by the occasion. It's Ashton Villa, lads.
00:20:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, the Catenio goal being... Because that was when Ben Teque was playing with Fabian Delph and they just absolutely had their way with us. If that's the Cebefario talk about.
00:20:42
Karl
we ah we We played seven midfielders that day. Three of them on the as the front three.
00:20:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
God, your memory is much better than mine, I'll say.
00:20:49
Karl
I was there. they may add a long walk I wrote a book about that. Well, the final chapter of the book, I wrote with Sachin and Crowley about that. ah
00:20:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I want to say the older one is where Brendan Rodgers' son was playing. Is that right?
00:21:00
Karl
Yes, I think so.
00:21:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the only other thing I remember. about Oh no, that might have been the one where we got them again and won. um
00:21:07
Karl
Oh, the 5-1 Anfield, yeah.
00:21:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, maybe maybe.
00:21:10
Karl
Yeah.
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, the thing, the joys of reflecting on losing against teams that we really should be beating. um
00:21:19
Karl
Humility, thank humility.
00:21:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, yes. It's a very humbling moment so for Liverpool fans this season because it felt like everything was going our way ah right until we played the mighty Plymouth Argyle who, as you mentioned, massive credit to them.
00:21:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
They absolutely deserved their win ah today and absolutely.
00:21:35
Karl
that They fought for everything tonight, and we didn't.
00:21:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I wish them the very best in the FA Cup. Hopefully they can knock another Premier League giant out and then that will make us feel a little bit better.
00:21:45
Karl
I wanted to win it. I'm going to back it. They're my new team.
00:21:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, so do I. Yeah, Plymouth Argyle for the FA Cup. That would be much better than the Wigan one, won't it? And I can't tell you when the last time was the team outside of the top flight won the FA Cup.
00:21:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I couldn't tell you.
00:21:59
Karl
Probably was Wigan, I imagine.
00:22:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, because Wigan got relegated that season.
00:22:03
Karl
Oh no, Wigan, they got relegated that season. In that case, it would have been West Ham 1980.
00:22:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah That's 24 years before I was born.
00:22:11
Karl
Oh, hang on, hang on, Portsmouth and Cardiff went Portsmouth down at that point. I think it probably was West Ham. I think I have to look that up now.
00:22:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
What, 2008?
00:22:20
Karl
We're Portsmouth down at that point.
00:22:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, but they were about to go down, but they spent all of their money on ah the team.
00:22:23
Karl
like
00:22:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, that was when they had ah Campbell in defence, Glenn Johnson right back, David James in goal.
00:22:30
Karl
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:22:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
So they were just about to go down and had to be saved.
00:22:35
Karl
Crouch to foe.
00:22:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, Jermaine Dafoe was there.
00:22:39
Karl
Yeah.
00:22:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Anyway, so that will wrap up our podcast. Karl, I hope to ah review a match with you in the not so distant future with a polar opposites feeling after the match. um But always a pleasure to be with you.
00:22:51
Karl
I'm angry. I'm angry because the senior players let Liverpool down today. I'm a still a little bit annoyed with the manager for I thought he just blown it off, to be honest.
00:23:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:03
Karl
And I get the hold, yes, but that's not our priority. But what annoys more than anything else is I don't want to see a Liverpool team being out fourth. And in the fourth round of the FA Cup against Plymouth Argyle, and it's nothing bad against them.
00:23:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
especially in the fourth round.
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:23:18
Karl
But I just hope that on a slot tonight is on the coach back or whatever, if I imagine they're flying, is just going to look up to a few of the players and just raise his eyebrows and go, really? that wast that's That's just not good enough.
00:23:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:30
Karl
That's not.
00:23:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I backyard a slot, obviously. ah He doesn't seem like the sort of person that...
00:23:35
Karl
um I've deleted the thing I said on Blue Sky about him, that he can go and do something to himself.
00:23:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay.
00:23:41
Karl
Yeah, I've deleted that because I didn't know about the Curtis Jones thing.
00:23:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, you're a very reactive man, Carl. A very emotional football fan.
00:23:47
Karl
I don't like losing.
00:23:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:23:48
Karl
I don't like losing. I don't mind losing when we should have lost. I don't mind that at all. That can happen. If we lose to Mount City, Mounties, you're a good team. I get that completely.
00:23:59
Karl
But not when we don't compete. And I don't think we competed enough today.
00:24:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nah.
00:24:03
Karl
And I'm not the kids, the seniors.
00:24:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes. I'm just looking at the... Oh, we had one expected goal. They had 1.23, so... ah I mean, I hate that stat anyway, but...
00:24:15
Karl
Is the draw tomorrow?
00:24:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
God, I couldn't tell you. I don't care. It's just, I mean, it's only the FA Cup.
00:24:20
Karl
I always want to see who we could have got.
00:24:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. i um Yeah, we'll keep it we'll keep an eye on that.
00:24:25
Karl
and It must be because Forrest played tomorrow, so it must be tomorrow. I tell you what, um one of my mates said, um at least I don't have to watch the one show now. So it must be on the one show tomorrow.
00:24:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, God. i Well, at least, at least Jermaine Genus isn't on there anymore.
00:24:38
Karl
Can we end this with some positive? That is true. jo yeah Absolutely no comment.
00:24:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not getting the Coink Coink Coin.
00:24:46
Karl
Let's look, let's let's end this with some positives. We don't have to, I'm not the face anymore.
00:24:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, we don't have to listen to Sam Mattaface or Jermaine Genus.
00:24:53
Karl
We don't have to watch, yep, we don't have to watch the one show.
00:24:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yes, tomorrow night. Tomorrow night.
00:24:59
Karl
ah We get weekends back now, which is quite nice.
00:25:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've got the League Cup Final to look forward to.
00:25:06
Karl
And, and Anna Slott knows a bit more about the players who can't quite make it to the first team.
00:25:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes, and we have to um and we also get to the idea that the player of the Euro 2021 has now had a humbling night at Plymouth. what's it What a football story.
00:25:20
Karl
i I'm... I still like him.
00:25:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I love him, absolutely love him, but...
00:25:26
Karl
ah
00:25:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
the idea that he's struggled at Plymouth now after being the talk of the Euros when they when Italy won it. It's quite something.
00:25:36
Karl
Arguably player of the tournament, he was fantastic.
00:25:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was brilliant.
00:25:40
Karl
it Absolutely fantastic.
00:25:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he's better off the left wing as well. I don't want to get into a massive talk because I've tried to end this podcast like four times.
00:25:44
Karl
Yeah, I'd say.
00:25:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:25:48
Karl
and do Let's be positive.
00:25:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:25:49
Karl
No more San Matthew face.
00:25:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no more Sam Matterface.
00:25:50
Karl
There we go.
00:25:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
There we go. And we'll end it there. Thank you very much for joining us on Daily in ah daily English. That's the other one. Daily Liverpool ah after a humbling but ending on a positive ah evening against Plymouth Argyle.
00:26:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we'll see you tomorrow for Tech Six Tuesday, where we look back on this match and also look forward to Everton. That will be a big one. See you for that.