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Introduction & Wildcard Wednesday
00:00:09
Speaker
Every club. Every day. The Global Sports Podcast Network. work Hello and welcome to the Daily Liverpool podcast on the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:00:22
Speaker
My name is Michael. I'll be your host today. i am sadly alone. um There is only me. It's Wildcard Wednesday. This might be going up a little bit late, so I do apologise, but I might rename it to Waffle Wednesday after this because it is just going to be my voice for the whole time.
00:00:40
Speaker
um And I do apologise about that. So basically today what I'm going to do is I'm just going to talk through our summer signings. I know there's only two of them, but I think it might be good to talk about them in because they they kind of get forgotten a little bit, um especially Mama Dashvilli, who I'll
Mamardashvili Signing
00:00:58
Speaker
start with. um So a little bit about Mamadashvili.
00:01:02
Speaker
ah He is a 24-year-old Georgian goalkeeper. um He is two years younger than Kelleher. um He is, what, like three inches tall or two inches taller. Like, he's a big, big guy. He's about 200 centimetres tall.
00:01:17
Speaker
um I couldn't quite do the maths as quickly as I wanted to about how foot how tall that is in foot. But if you want to know, you can search it yourself. um He's left-footed. he plays for Valencia and has played for Valencia for the past few years.
00:01:34
Speaker
And is Georgian. He's Georgian goalkeeper. He is Georgia's number one goalkeeper. He has been for the last few years. um So in the summer, we signed him for, I believe, £30 million.
00:01:47
Speaker
um he is he the season After the season, we signed him. ah before the Before we signed him, sorry. um he had a blinder of a season. um So he was one of the top goalkeepers in Europe, especially in the Euros. I know a lot of people probably came to hear about him when Georgia were going on that bit of a run of getting to those later later stages in the Euros and playing really, really well.
00:02:17
Speaker
um So between 2022 2024, Mamadash really played 96 games for Valencia. um mom and dashsh really played for played ninety six games for valencia um So he played pretty much every minute. He came through basically came through the Valencia Academy, and played for Valencia B, um went out on loan a few times to FC Rostovic, Lokomotiv Tbilisi and Dynamo Tbilisi. So...
00:02:45
Speaker
in Georgia um and then made it into the first team of Valencia has been a mainstay in the first team since. um And then we signed him and sent him back on loan to Georgia. um So the main, he's also played for Georgia all the way from under 17s, all the way up to the national team. He's played there since 2021 in the national team. He's made 27 appearances. Um,
00:03:08
Speaker
um The season that we signed after we signed him, he had he was one of the best in the world. he he was sort of From I've seen, it was considered the top 2015 goalkeepers in the world, um which i mean is not mean not a mean feat by any mean.
Goalkeeper Performance Comparison
00:03:33
Speaker
um And especially for a 23-year-old, that's quite impressive.
00:03:36
Speaker
Yeah. He's one of those players that maybe because he is Georgian and maybe because he was playing for Valencia and he wasn't playing for one of the big dog clubs and wasn't playing for a quote-unquote big nationality when it comes to football. I mean, Georgia's national sport is rugby, but um it seems like their football team is slightly better than their rugby team. But I'm not saying that. Their rugby team is very good.
00:04:00
Speaker
um But basically, if Mamadash really was... I don't know, English. I mean, the flag's not too far away. Um, if he was English, we might be speaking about him a lot differently.
00:04:11
Speaker
Um, I mean, he compares really well to, uh, Dean Henderson. So, I mean, that could be a good way of, of starting this off saying like he, um, so he is, uh, three years younger. No, he's four years younger than Dean Henderson.
00:04:28
Speaker
um Um, I know a lot of people still think Dean Henderson is a, uh, is a young goalkeeper. But basically, Mamadashvili is much, much younger. He's playing sort of a similar number of games to Dean Henderson.
00:04:41
Speaker
Obviously, different sort of teams. I mean, in their room in their respective leagues, probably similar sort of level nowadays with Valencia. They've been struggling a little bit this season. um But, I mean, it's no through no fault of Mamadashvili, I'll call him Georgie,
00:04:57
Speaker
um So if I refer to him as Georgie, that is who I'm talking about. um So he's played pretty much every minute the season. He's made 20 appearances.
00:05:09
Speaker
um When you compare him to other goalkeepers, um he has made a lot of saves. He's kind of brought his team out of out of some tough times, but he's also not had the best season.
00:05:22
Speaker
um His expected goals, um sort of goals prevented a statistic, which is where you take the number of goals conceded compared to the expected goals conceded. um And then what you're left with is number of goals ah prevented.
00:05:37
Speaker
In theory, that is how it how it should work. um So, ah This season, Mamadashvili is on minus 0.5. So he's had not had a good season ah this season. But Kelleher, on the other hand, played much less games, but he is on a prevent goal prevented of 1.6.
00:05:54
Speaker
So if you compare it in that and that ah sense and you have that in mind and you can kind of see where I'm coming from with those with those statistics, he's not been very good this season.
Strategic Goalkeeper Planning
00:06:05
Speaker
I'll just walk talk you through last season... um he had a much, much better, better game, better season. So he had 7.09 rating overall, but he had 9.3 goal prevented, um which is, I mean, that is very impressive.
00:06:25
Speaker
Um, I'll get him up to compare him to Alison because obviously Alison is the gold standard for goalkeepers, um, in, in the world football. I know many, I know, I mean, many team, many, uh,
00:06:39
Speaker
teams seem to not like that that is the case, but I mean, they can cry more. It is definitely the case. So um this season for Alisson, Alisson is on a 0.6 expected goals. I mean, he has he's made... out We're comparing him... ah So if you compare them together, they've made... Mamadash really has made... Has played one more or three more games, um but has conceded more.
00:07:07
Speaker
um it So basically, I don't think I'm selling them to you. um Basically, Mama Dashvili is Kelleher replacement at this moment in time, not an Alisson replacement.
00:07:21
Speaker
So in the summer, Kelleher will be coming into the final year of his contract. He will want bigger things. He wants to go to a team. In my opinion, he's top 10 goalkeepers in the Prem. He could play for...
00:07:32
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play for at least 10 of the teams in the Prem, if not more. um Teams like Chelsea could have him. I don't want him to hu go to Chelsea, but like he is definitely a step up for a lot of goalkeepers in the league.
00:07:46
Speaker
um So if we do sell him, having that sort of ready-to-go replacement in Mamadash really is is perfect. And obviously we have seen that Alisson is not...
00:08:00
Speaker
completely infallible when it comes to injuries. He is a is a player who does get injured fairly regularly and is usually if he does get injured, he's out for a long period of time. So when it comes to kind of protecting Alisson and making sure that he isn't in a situation where we lose him and then he's gone for the whole for this whole season when we're left with playing...
00:08:22
Speaker
um let's say Jaros, in goal for for a number of games. We need that sort of backup that is is good enough to be a ah to be a starter if we wanted to.
00:08:33
Speaker
I would probably say Mamadashvili is more Kelleher's level at this moment in time. He's obviously younger, so the more games he can get in, that's why we probably sent him out on loan because we didn't want to kind of have three amazing goalkeepers.
00:08:45
Speaker
um But we basically kind of made sure that we weren't kind of overstocking in that in that situation. But I reckon this summer or maybe even the summer before, Kelleher probably came to the to the bosses upstairs and kind of went, I want to play football. I want to be the first choice. I want to be the guy who is saving the goals, who gets the plaudits, who is the man.
00:09:08
Speaker
um And with Alisson here,
Squad & Contract Management
00:09:11
Speaker
he's not going to be that. So I think they probably had that conversation, maybe not last summer, the summer before. And then this summer,
00:09:20
Speaker
some are just gone, ah they've kind of identified their goalkeeper to be Kelleher's replacement. Because Kelleher, if he was willing to sit on the bench for another three, four years, um like until Alisson eventually moves on, um if he was willing to do that, he would be our natural replacement. He would be the Alisson replacement.
00:09:43
Speaker
He would have had teaching under Alisson for... pretty much his whole career, um he would have been able to kind of step into those shoes. He's shown that he's adequate when it comes to it, when he yeah when he has to step in for ah those stretches of games, eight or so games that he's played this season.
00:09:59
Speaker
um And he's he's made that step up, but he is also a player that like, he wants to play for the Irish national team. He wants to be that first choice. He wants to kind of be the guy wants to get into the top 10 of the Ballon d'Or for goalkeepers. He wants to get into like, he wants to be the best in the world.
00:10:17
Speaker
Um, and I think that's just the competitive nature of Liverpool. We foster that, that sense that like you are, you can be good enough and you should be good enough if you're here.
00:10:28
Speaker
So why can he not do it somewhere else? If he went to a, a team like, I don't know who knew who needs a goalkeeper now. Like, if like I said, I said Chelsea before, but, um, Chelsea is Robert Sanchez is not good enough. He's not as good as Kelleher. Kelleher is better than Robert Sanchez.
00:10:46
Speaker
Um, In pretty much every way. And I think Chelsea could pay a lot to get him. And if we can get sort of 30, 40 million for Kelleher, we've made our money back from Mamadashvili and we've also made complete profit because obviously academy players, ah FFP and stuff like that, like over like all that comes into account nowadays when when a club is looking at making and and making signings and planning their squad.
00:11:12
Speaker
So it is ah it is a really interesting sort of conundrum that Liverpool have had to deal with because they've kind of pre-planned. because i mean They didn't pre-plan when it came to the likes of Van Dijk, Salah, Trent.
00:11:25
Speaker
Trent less so because obviously if Trent goes, Conor Bradley steps in, most likely Trent will go in my opinion, Conor Bradley steps in and can do that role. We will need to bring in another right back because Conor Bradley needs competition or we need to kind of give Bradley more time to kind of settle as that first choice.
00:11:44
Speaker
So having someone who can step in for a little bit works. I think probably Salah and Van Dijk are going to sign on, but... it's a little bit of squeaky bum time. um um Like they've left it so late to do that.
00:11:57
Speaker
I'm confident that they have. And I think this current situation is that like two of them have signed and they're waiting on the last one. um And that, um and it just puts pressure on the whole negotiation. If they announce, Oh, Salah and Baddike have signed. Oh, amazing. What's happened to Trent?
00:12:12
Speaker
And then everyone looks at Trent. Everyone puts pressure on Trent. All eyes go on Trent. He starts getting labeled as like, he's he's already out the club. He's, he's kind of down to stuff like that and it's just not helpful for for the player so I can see why that we haven't had an announcement I mean a lot of people had views I think Jesse had a view that like they were going to announce it on that Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve or something like that like a big announcement all three of them with their with their kits on and stuff but And like that would have been amazing, but I think it makes more sense for them to not show
Liverpool's Long-term Strategy
00:12:48
Speaker
that.
00:12:48
Speaker
I saw a ah a statistic the other day that like um in sort of two seasons time, so um not 2025, not but twenty twenty seven that summer The majority of our squad have their contracts ending in that summer.
00:13:05
Speaker
um So like there's going to be a lot of sort of new contracts, upheaval, changing of the squad in the next or three seasons. um And that's going to be really interesting to see, especially if like the big boys, if, say, Salah and Van Dijk do sign, but they only sign for two years, they join that list of people who are leaving in that summer.
00:13:25
Speaker
and like, I really hope that, um, the Richard Hughes and all like the, the guys behind the scenes are ah kind of planning for that and have an idea of what they want to do. Like they, like they want to get like the likes of Harvey Elliott, Curtis Jones, Tyler Moore, and they want to get like,
00:13:41
Speaker
these younger, like, academy and in quote inverted commas, like, the, the because obviously Harvey Elliott isn't from our academy, came very young, but kind of, and is a Liverpool fan, so feels like he's from our academy, but he isn't.
00:13:54
Speaker
um Like, these young players who can kind of hold the team the or like be the spine of the team for the next few years. like We've already got Qunsa signed for another five-year contract. like Those sort of things are already getting put in place, so I'd like to see like a little bit more movement on that.
00:14:12
Speaker
um But the fact that we're ah already planning for not even our first choice leaving, we're planning for our second choice leaving for someone who who is young enough to then step up into the first choice.
00:14:22
Speaker
Like we're having that long-term plan. And I think that is kind of discounted by a lot of people, especially with like, when they look at the sort sort of money that like City is spending, I mean, United to their detriment are spending. Like when they're looking at that sort of money, they only see that we spent 30 million on a goalkeeper that we're not even going to have this season.
00:14:40
Speaker
Like it is one of those things that like, you have to kind of, handle and you kind of have to have a thought about how this club has been run since CSG took over.
00:14:53
Speaker
This is a Moneyball club and I absolutely love that. Moneyball is one of my favourite films. Moneyball is one of my favourite sports stories. Like, um The fact that we are run like a moneyball team and we are successful when when we can look at how United have spent billions and have done nothing with it and we can look at Chelsea spending billions and they haven't done anything with it.
00:15:14
Speaker
They have like they've just wasted money and burnt through it and put their clubs in. poor situations. like United are getting rid of canteen staff as opposed to getting rid of the wage bill. like That is how so majorly messed up their club is. like But our club has ran well. We are functional. We are going to like keep moving. our Our academy is starting to churn out bangers.
00:15:36
Speaker
though Morton, Quansa, Bradley, Trent, Jones, like all these players. Ingemoa, that's our scouting team, not necessarily our academy, but better be sure we're calling him our academy product when he's enough when he's in the first team and Chelsea are going to cry.
00:15:52
Speaker
um But like all these players are coming through and that is because we want to be sustainable. We don't want to be spending a hundred odd million just for for no reason. like it's There's no point. And I think like having a goalkeeper like Mamadashvili coming through and having that sort of security that we've got our goalkeeper sorted for the next 10 years until he's 33...
00:16:15
Speaker
It's perfect. like what why would why would Why would you be complaining about that? it's not It's no big outlay, really. £30 million in this climate is nothing. um And like if we can get so of similar money for Kelleher, it's a zero-sum game. We've just got a good goalkeeper for a good goalkeeper.
00:16:31
Speaker
Like it is one of those things. So yeah, that's my spiel on Mama Dashvili. um Now, well in after the break, we're going to come back and I'm going to talk a bit more about Chiesa and a bit more about just kind of what I think our transfer plans will be in the summer.
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Chiesa's Challenges & Potential
00:18:18
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now. Hello and welcome back. um That little break was so that you can hear some ah good stuff from our partners, from our sponsors. But yeah, so ah this half, I'm going to talk a little bit about Chiesa.
00:18:31
Speaker
I think he's had a little bit of criticism. I feel like a little bit unfairly um in my personal opinion, um just because like... you've got to give him a chance, haven't you?
00:18:43
Speaker
and You can't just kind of look at him and be like, oh he's rubbish because he hasn't played. Like last season, he played 33 games and scored nine goals and got two assists. That not a bad turn. That is not a bad return um for that number of for that number of games. And like he's already, in this season, he's sort of played five, well, he's played seven games if you if you, or eight games if you include, like, all competitions.
00:19:07
Speaker
He has got one assist and one goal. Like, it's not amazing, but it is, like, sort of better than, like, He's getting east in. He's a little bit older than maybe I thought he was. I thought he was probably still around the 25 mark.
00:19:21
Speaker
He's 27, so he is a little bit on the high side in terms of his age. He's not got that longevity. um But he at one point, Chiesa was being talked about as a £115 million pound player.
00:19:33
Speaker
We got him for £15 million. pounds Realistically, this is like a no-brainer transfer. It's a transfer that... like If he plays really well and we potentially keep him until he's 35 and then he retires, amazing.
00:19:48
Speaker
If he plays not so well, plays quite average, we sell him for 20 million, we make 5 million profit. profit Because on name alone, and because it's a Liverpool player, we could definitely make money on him.
00:20:01
Speaker
like we We could definitely do do a job with him. Yeah. it's one of those things that like he's getting eased in because he's known as having some problems with his injuries. so And like,
00:20:14
Speaker
like the likes of like Fabinho when we signed him he didn't play until like December like or maybe not December but like he didn't play the first game of the season didn't get thrown straight in like we are not a club that does that and we are smarter than that and if someone has muscle injury problems and if someone like struggles to kind of meet the meet the pressure and kind of we need to kind of ease them in a little bit more then like do it. like why why Why would we not do it? Why would we kind of rush him straight in?
00:20:46
Speaker
One thing that I am confused by is that like every time he's played, he has looked good. He has looked good bordering like electric at some points. He's had fits and starts with it. um But I think it's it's ah it's a very strange one where like I want to see more of him and i and he just isn't getting put on the bench probably because like Nunes and Jota and Elliot and that like our bench gets filled out with very very good players and it's just a testament to how good our squad is that like Chiesa can't get on the bench and I think
00:21:18
Speaker
If Chiesa was with Klopp, he would be on the bench because Klopp used to like having and about seven attackers and one defender on the bench. um While Slott seems to like to have a much more balanced defence, likes to have two or three midfielders, likes to have a full-back subby on each side and a centre-back, and then likes to have sort of two or three attackers.
00:21:40
Speaker
um He just can't get on the bench. I want to see him more. like i think... If we hadn't been knocked out of the FA Cup, I would have liked to have seen him a little bit.
00:21:50
Speaker
like a little bit more just getting some starts. like I can't really see where he gets starts for the rest of the season. um Maybe if like ah either our Champions League tie or maybe if the EFL Cup is completely like gone within like gone for the opposition and we're winning by 4-0 in the first half, he gets brought on um and then he gets to just have like a run of the show.
00:22:14
Speaker
um That would be Cool. I mean, in either situation, winning five nil within the first half would be amazing. um And if we get to see Kiesa, great. um But then, like, if we... like i would i would like to see him more. He's very two-footed. He had a decent season last season.
00:22:32
Speaker
He has had a few injuries already, which isn't good. Like, that's not a good start, that the fact that he's just having loads of injuries. um But it's one of those things, like, we've got to kind of settle with him.
00:22:45
Speaker
um I said I was going to move on to the sort of transfers that might happen next next year, the bits that I
Liverpool's Transfer Speculations
00:22:53
Speaker
think we should go for. I mean, I've seen a lot of talk about left-back.
00:22:56
Speaker
We have two serviceable left-backs. Robertson and Simagas haven't been amazing this season. I think Simagas has probably actually been better when he's played, but they are serviceable for at least one more season. um I think the more pressing positions are right-back if Trent goes.
00:23:11
Speaker
we can't just have Bradley. We can't just get stuck there um and and just have Bradley. Maybe even like a centre-back because Gomez is too injury-prone and having only three centre-backs, I would like to think that Van Dijk would stay. As I said, I think he's probably already staying.
00:23:29
Speaker
um But I think maybe bringing in another centre-back and maybe having Gomez as that sort of backup right-back and just giving Bradley as much game time as possible might work.
00:23:40
Speaker
um I think midfield wise, I've seen we've been linked to Zaire Emery. i he's ah So Zaire Emery is a really, really good sort of, I think he's 18 year old. He's playing for PSG. He's kind of working his way um into being like one of the best midfielders in the world. He's been playing for PSG for a number of years now.
00:24:02
Speaker
But the fact like that it's going to cost us. 100 million minimum to get him out of PSG and I don't think we're paying that for a midfielder. I'll move on to the to more attacking positions but um as much as he would be amazing and having him as our midfielder for the re for the next 10 maybe even 20 years if he plays till he's 38 like like he would be incredible but i think it's another situation where like bellingham where we've seen a really good player where like oh yeah we we can have him yeah he's really good um but then we're not realizing the finances involved because as i said earlier like fsg don't spend not necessarily to their detriment either like we don't make those silly transfers if we spend big we spend big caveat with that
00:24:53
Speaker
The guy I'm going to get onto now, Darwin Nunes, we spent big on him, has not come off. But saying that, if we can get money back from Saudi Arabia... it's a fine transfer. Like, it's a transfer.
00:25:06
Speaker
He's had some good moments. Like, we can look back and be like, oh, what a guy. Like, crazy Darwin Nunes, whirlwind of chaos. like it Like, he will become, like, sort of a cult hero and, like, will be looked back as, like, a street won't forget streets won't forget kind of player.
00:25:22
Speaker
um But I think getting sort of, like, a, say it quietly for the Newcastle fans, an Alexander Izak or someone like that, like, to lead the line and to be a player that can, like,
00:25:33
Speaker
actually be the guy up front because like at the moment we're reliant on Salah and like if Salah goes where are the goals coming from? You could maybe say Gakpo.
00:25:44
Speaker
Gakpo scored a decent amount goals this season. I think probably like that's it. Like maybe like if you can get Chiesa fit and firing, he can get you sort of 10, maybe 15 goals a season.
00:25:56
Speaker
If you can get Gakpo scoring, he can maybe get you 15. Like that is like on a very, very good season, but you're not getting the same numbers as Salah getting 30 odds at the moment and probably will be on like 50 goals by the end of the season in all competitions.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah. Like we need that sort of guy to lead the line or to at least take the burden. Because if we can get everyone scoring sort of 10 to 15 goals, as opposed to one guy scoring 40 and the rest scoring about 10, like or or or less, like they they that will be the prime prime opportunity to kind of,
00:26:32
Speaker
build on this team and if we got if we got isak people are looking at us and being like oh oh damn they've got a striker to rival harland and they've got a better squad like they ah they like they they'd be looking at us as like we are as good if not better than city and we haven't really been looked at that like looked at like that for pretty much our whole time. like City were always the favourites, we were always the underdogs, but if we got a player like Izak or we got maybe, we revamped our attack in in some way because I've so've seen links about Jota, Nunes and Diaz being kind of
00:27:14
Speaker
shipped off to kind of make it make way for more attackers to come in and having players like Jadon Danz coming through the academy. I love Jadon Danz. He is great. um And I want to see more of him and I hope he has a good time at Sunderland.
00:27:26
Speaker
Like having those players to kind of bolster our attack while having that sort of staple signing of that big man up top, I think would be great. I think we would really fly from that. So I'd like to see, in recap, I'd like to see maybe ah striker, maybe one more midfielder,
00:27:42
Speaker
more holding maybe, maybe a defensive midfielder, but we can kind of, it doesn't really matter. A right back, definitely. And maybe a centre back. Like we've kind of, the rest of the positions are covered.
00:27:53
Speaker
This is all prefaced on the fact that Van Dijk and Salas Day and maybe Trent goes. Like those are the, those my kind of ideas for this transfer situation.
Conclusion & Engagement
00:28:03
Speaker
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