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Speaker: hello everyone Welcome back. I know it is Sunday. I know the... Clocks have changed. But we had a special where we are having a special guest on today. The legendary Jason Brooks. from Such. great films as Friday the 13th Vengeance.
Speaker: and Friday the 13th Vengeance Part 2 Bloodlines. The death of Snow White. Diced Reloaded just to name a few. Let's bring... Jason Brooks. on the show. right now.
Speaker: Hey, Jason, how are you doing today? Hey, good. How you doing?
Speaker: It's not winter yet, so I'm excited but sure Thanks. And. Jason. So I had said earlier that my wife's got a few questions she'd like to ask you to start off this interview. So Alyssa.
Speaker: Would you start off the interview? Sure. So we we'll start off with. Um, Friday the 13th. vengeance Okay. I just have to know How did you come up with the tense scene in the beginning of just...
Speaker: the the two people in it and whipping them around, basically. Oh man. I have to go back in my memory, which is I'm losing a little bit but it was uh In the script, we wrote that. And of course, it's an homage to Kane Hodder's with a sleeping bag.
Speaker: but you know as Jason moves on. Through time, you know, he's we got to make them bigger stronger. And so what's better than having one person in a sleeping bag.
Speaker: Two people in a tent. So. And then we were planning it. to be around a tree But once we got the set. um on the lake there we had a tree stump so we just kind of improvised and used the stump instead Hey, that' that's just filmmaking in general. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: No, Alyssa, those weren't real people in that when it hit the stump. What? ah yeah Oh, my God. There is one comment. that Mark had shown me once upon a time, and someone had asked. It's no longer on there, so someone must have probably got rid of it. but Someone had asked.
Speaker: Were the people still in there? It's like, no. like No. We did our job. Yeah, like, no, there's not really... people in the tent when it gets hit over the stump.
Speaker: Hey Mark. if i remember right it was like a phone body a sleeping bag and some other other things in there that we filled it with. um just not very light we want it to still look heavy and so there was quite a bit of weight to it so that it would hit properly but um and we had i believe a blood bag inside to to burst once they hit the stump so that the blood comes out and...
Speaker: Yeah. Have to make it look real. real make it look fun at least okay Hey Mark, how are you doing buddy? Mark says, hey, Alyssa, hey, Steven, and hey, Jason.
Speaker: Hey. Okay. Mark? Yep, from talking shit. Oh, hi Mark. Um... And I'm going to steal one from Alyssa because, you know, i I think me or Mark asked this on the last one. um So when you became the drunk, angry hillbilly guy, redneck guy in there.
Speaker: Um... Why did the member have to be so big? Oh, well. That's an interesting question. um ah So...
Speaker: When it came time for doing that scene in Vengeance 2 um It was kind of a late addition. we had some people watch one of the cuts and We realized that some people didn't remember some of the things from part one.
Speaker: And so we needed a transfer of information for the audience. So. uh talking with our uh director of photography cody newton we were trying to come up with some sort of way that like obviously like one cop could be talking to a doctor or to another cop to kind of pass information on to let them know like oh yeah we found this many bodies it's Elias Voorhees yada yada yada so Amen.
Speaker: When we came up with the idea that we do that. cody was like well i want to do it in a place that's not in office. Let's not make it boring. Let's make it. um fun or something different.
Speaker: and not just the woods or an office, which is boring. so We decided on the autopsy room and going to the morgue and then i was like well that's great because we wanted to bring back diana prince and maybe bring back a couple of the actors from the original and then then we could be doing autopsies on them.
Speaker: So sorry, my dog is getting very Hey, that kind of looks like the dog in Vengeance Part 2. It is. That is him. Excellent. Oh, he's a star?
Speaker: The dog's like, where's my star treatment? Exactly. um So yeah. We... decided to do it in the in the autopsy room and to bring back Diana Prince because she didn't quite get to have the the makeup and death that we wanted her to have in the first one so she was on board to come back and then So we thought, well, wait a minute, this is the perfect time to bring Louis back because everyone kept asking for the return of Louis.
Speaker: And I was like, he got his head ripped off. How are we going to bring... Louis back and people were like, oh, there's a twin brother. I'm like, no, I don't want to. That's. too ridiculous and so We're like, oh, yeah, let's just do something with Louis. And then people can at least see him in there. And then Cody said, well.
Speaker: If you have. Louie in there. You got to have a dick joke And so we're like, okay. And. um And so why I was like, but i don't want to have i've seen it in the movie before where the corpse has an erection or something and so i didn't want to just do the normal thing and i had just gotten done watching a documentary. on the Icelandic Phallological Museum. where It was on Netflix and they were looking for a human donor to donate.
Speaker: um a human penis to this museum in iceland where they have hundreds and hundreds of other animals and insects and stuff penises of their of that kind so um i thought well that'd be funny that's something that that louis would do is he would donate his member to the uh And so I was talking to Naomi.
Speaker: makeup artist and we were like we got to make this we're doing our pickup shots we got to make it quick what do we do And. typically what we would do is we would sculpt something out of clay we would do Um,
Speaker: something to essentially uh mold cast and stuff and make that and I'm going to pass off now. don't Thank you. um and It came down to timing. And we said, you know, the quickest way would just to be.
Speaker: to do a body cast of myself. So that's what we did. We just by basically did a body cast of me at the time and we didn't intend to tell anyone. about it and so we made that made the copy of it.
Speaker: of my real my real dick and then A movie came out. and then we got a contact from the icelandic philological museum that was mentioned inside the movie as...
Speaker: It was written there. And they wanted to actually put that on display in their museum. So they asked if they could have the actual props. So we flew to Iceland, delivered the prop.
Speaker: um I got a lifetime membership. the character louie also got a lifetime membership to the museum and um So yeah. and I guess that's it had to be that size and that thing because I guess it was just really me so ah And we, yeah, and after it came out in the museum and then word started getting around, people started talking about it.
Speaker: um it the word got out that it was just me So we decided it's not a secret anymore, I suppose. Well, that was... I have to say Louie's introduction into a Friday the 13th. film was one of the best.
Speaker: Just... The guy does not give a shit. Yeah. He's there to party and... just say the most obscene things and like Alyssa was just like that That is a great character for Friday the 13th. I'm like, that's a great character in any horror movie.
Speaker: Thank you. yeah it was jeremy brown the director who um who wanted it in there. I actually created the character for a different movie called Happy Trails that I had worked on. and had written and he saw that and he's like oh my god i love this character can we bring him in here And I said, yeah, as long as I get to control the the lines, the dialogue and who the character is, ah let's let's use it.
Speaker: And we did. and I tried to make them be. like everyone's worst uncle. And that, you know, the guy that people don't want to be around, people cringe around and hate and everyone seems to love him. And since then.
Speaker: I... resurrected the character and played him in 11 different tv shows film projects and everything like that so Um, Yeah, I guess he was a... A hit.
Speaker: but So. it It kind of brings me to my other question of... Why of all the characters that you could have chosen to play? Why Louis?
Speaker: Why Louie? um I think it was just. um When I was doing it for Happy Trails we are casting for this uh Convenient shop owner out in the middle of nowhere where our lead character comes in and talk to him He gets directions and everything and I wanted this kind of like old curmudgeon II guy to be the the shop owner and kind of interact and kind of mess with the the lead character and Um,
Speaker: And we were auditioning some people. We were looking around. And I was talking to my DP, Ryan Zablinski, at the time. And. We kept trying to find certain looks and I was like, no, it's not right, not right. So I put on the makeup myself and the beard and everything. I went to my garage and had my son film some of the lines.
Speaker: And I did it as Louie. And Ryan came back and said, dude, you have to be Louis. I was like, no, I'm directing this film. I don't want to be in it. I'm just going to direct it. And he's like, no, you have to be.
Speaker: you have to be the character. And I was like, all right, fine. And so I did. And then that's where it kind of stemmed from. And it was fun. It was a lot of fun to be someone who I'm absolutely not. and um It was... ah Yeah, it's just a good time and then people seem to enjoy it so Makes it more fun.
Speaker: Oh, definitely. I mean, you know like you said. This is a character that you wouldn't let anyone else be. This was your character. But, you know... There's also some other great characters in there, too.
Speaker: Um... That being Peter Anthony. Amazing, amazing. person that he is um you also had uh I'm gonna butcher her name.
Speaker: Sinai. Sanaya? Saniya. um You also brought back Steve Dash. CJ Graham, like it's a who's who.
Speaker: If you've ever fallen in love with Friday the 13th, like we all have, of people that came back, granted... um with Steve, did he die?
Speaker: shortly after filming had ended, or was it... is certainly in the middle of it. It was shortly after. When we we actually... flew out to Florida to film with him for his parts because his health wasn't yeah good enough to um to fly out to Seattle where we're shooting the rest of it. So a small crew.
Speaker: um jules valenti uh dustin monte earth and i we flew down to florida and filmed his scenes. And. When we got there, he took us out to a steakhouse for dinner the first night. And as we're there, he's like, hey, I want to tell you guys something that I kept from you.
Speaker: like okay what's that he's like yeah i had a heart attack a couple days ago and i've been in the hospital i just got out this morning and you know And I was like, what what we should postpone this. He's like, no, no, no, no. That's why I didn't tell you because I didn't want you to cancel.
Speaker: And he said, yeah, I've been having some health issues. and but this movies are important to me so I... just wanted to let you know that that's what happened and stuff and we're like Freaked out like what do we? We've got to take care of you. and ah but he kept insisting and his family too was like yeah no this movie is super important to him he loves the character he loves what he's doing and and uh what we're about so He was dedicated to it. and then About two and a half, three weeks after we got done filming, we wrapped her back home.
Speaker: Amen. you know We're still in touch with the family and lovely people. and Steve and he was calling and texting and um And he was in the hospital for for diabetes.
Speaker: and um and having some some... complications with that. He lost his leg. um and so Anyway. as One thing after another it ended up leading to his
Speaker: passing, um unfortunately. And I just feel very grateful that we had the time and opportunity to stay with him at his house for a couple weeks we got to do that movie that we were able to immortalize him in this in the way we did in the way that he loved and he did he loved the movie he loved what we made so that was also really important and Um,
Speaker: and being able to keep his. legacy alive and then which we did in part two as well with not just a funeral, but his son, his grandson. playing young Jason Voorhees with the sack in the very beginning of the movie. It was Steve Dash's grandson. So.
Speaker: Um, That was a very emotional. time on set as well as to have the family steve's daughter um come out and, uh, and put that on. And as soon as he came out with the makeup and that costume and everything, and we filmed the scene with CJ and handbill is not a lot of dry eyes there was a lot of um a lot of emotions in that moment and so Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, you know, Steve Dash will always be a legend. and everything that he's done. including being in this great film. um I will always defend. the vengeance movies until the day i die because again they're There's something about the fan films.
Speaker: that in my opinion do better than the later ones that we got. And like... When I... was going to have Peter Anthony on, but because of scheduling issues.
Speaker: He wasn't able to which we got to get him back. I want to get him on this um on this new version of the show I'm on. because Rose blood. I mean, that was another one that you could literally plug it in. after part seven. And it would. it would flow. like it was an actual Friday the 13th movie, just like Vengeance and Vengeance 2.
Speaker: you could plug them in somewhere and it would still... Yeah. it would still tell that story And that's why, like I told this, I'm like, you have to watch these films. Like, Mark got me into them, and...
Speaker: I always watch them during Halloween. i Alyssa's always like, well, you can't watch them all the time. And I'm like, but you let me watch like Halloween and all that all the time. Yeah, why not? Yeah. And that was the... the thing with the continuation um A lot of people don't know and you may might know fans will know but in part six the ending tom mclaughlin originally wanted to end it with the cemetery
Speaker: And. um Elias Voorhees coming up to the cemetery paying the grave keeper for maintaining or moving the Pamela's grave and all that and the production.
Speaker: The company said no. they didn't want to commit to having a Elias in there. So. He was never able to film that. So we contacted Tom. And. Asked to Tommy and asked him like hey, would you mind if we start off the film with that because I'd be a great introduction and Then while we're at it, we're like, hey, why don't we have Tommy play the Gravekeeper.
Speaker: And so it was really wild to have. Tommy fly out. play the gravekeeper in the scene. And even he was like, I wrote this 30 something years ago. And.
Speaker: now here i am acting in the scene that i wrote that i was told i couldn't do and doing the continuation of the story. so that was That was pretty fun. So I love like, you know, going six.
Speaker: on through vengeance and vengeance 2 and Same with the part seven in Roseblood. Yeah. And you know, I love the kills. like the kills are some of the greatest kills of friday the 13th i put them up and even with like kane's kills And...
Speaker: Which if I ever get him on there, he'll probably. be like hey You had Jason Brooks on here. You're saying his kills and those were about as good as mine? Like, what's up with that? I'm sure he's heard enough about us.
Speaker: um So. Go ahead Alyssa. Talking about kills, though. Have you ever watched a another horror movie and thought, oh. I could have. totally done that kill much better.
Speaker: Oh yeah. um All the time. and what i mean My partner, Naomi, and I, we own Real Fiction Studios, a special effects and production company. What we do every day is we do. these kills and um And then we see it. So I either.
Speaker: How it was done. on. the by the actor or how it was done by the effects team. um There's been a couple of times where it's like, oh man. if i would have been able to do that i would have done it this way or um Or even just some of the subtle movements with watching some people on, especially on indie films, usually the bigger budget films get it right. They hire good.
Speaker: um Suit actors and everything like that to to perform but every once in a while you know it's like ah that was a great concept a great character And. um I wish I had the opportunity to See? get in there and do it. Um,
Speaker: and either build the effects for this because we would have had fun doing that. or being able to execute it on screen. so Yeah. And there's also times where it's like, oh my God, how did they think about?
Speaker: how do they think of that? That's amazing. How'd they pull that off? And it's like trying to figure out a magic trick. Sometimes like that you also see the opposite where it's like, amazing work and amazing performances that that you become.
Speaker: Um, envious of and inspired by. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean I would put up the effects work of this, like with...
Speaker: the final chapter. you know how you When about... doing the effects in this and with the way that, you know, some of the kills.
Speaker: there There were some of the kills that I was just like, damn, you know, like, you you wanted to look away a little bit, but then there also there's also those kills that you can't look away from, like... ah Which is the one... um I'm trying to think about it.
Speaker: And I just watched the movie last night. um Well... The... The Louie one. Where it was just like. he, he,
Speaker: Literally. gives jason the business and jason's just kind of in his mind like Who are you? Yeah, yeah. And then kills him. And then gets his head ripped off. That kill was done by Joe Castro.
Speaker: Really? And then we had our. um one of our executive producers, Don Schell. who paid quite a bit to help make the movie happen. he one of his things was he wanted to play Jason for that scene to kill me. so put the costume on him and we put them on an apple box to make them taller so take power and and then We had ah Joe Castro who cast my head and made the whole prosthetic and did an amazing, amazing job on that.
Speaker: um And. yeah So that was a fun one.
Speaker: yeah Go ahead, Alyssa. I know there's one that you really liked. So... Mine. My question is... with the maniac miles Yes.
Speaker: I have to know, was was that a sympathy kill? because of how painful that tour was yeah we did that on purpose um for sure it was We're trying to make it like meant that
Speaker: The Maniac Mile was one of those knockoffs. where they were just trying to do a cash grab so everyone's out there in the woods trying to like make a buck off of this and so we had him reading from his index cards on purpose and kind of messing it up and um The guy who played the the leader of that group Amazing actor. He's really great. And so it was.
Speaker: really hard to kind of dumb it down to be like oh i'm really bad at this um And. We just yeah you wanted them to die because they were competition to the to the group We were following we liked and and they're kind of the bad guys in that sense um and just you want to see them.
Speaker: go down and So. Yeah. it It takes a great actor to be able to play a horrible actor. Yeah, it does. It's it's harder than than it seems.
Speaker: Well, and plus we... The Diana Prince kill. Was another great kill in this movie. um Kind of wish we would gotten to see how she got killed in halloween ends but you know We got the best of it in Vengeance Part 1.
Speaker: um How did Diana Prince. come to be involved with the movie because i mean she's in a tremendous actress she does um darcy the male girl with joe bob briggs and their show the last driving yeah um So how how was she able to get involved with it? And was it a lengthy process to get her involved? Or was it just like she was on board right away?
Speaker: She was on board before I got on board, before I was cast as Jason. in the original when it was called Mythos. and then So I got to meet her. coming onto set for the first time and she was Really sweet and wonderful lover to death very shy. She was kind of in the corner to herself and we're shooting in the Idaho Mountains.
Speaker: for mythos. and it was freezing and not everyone came prepared from out of state and i remember seeing her kind of sitting on a bench just kind of huddled up curled up and everything and I offered her my... I just like.
Speaker: fuzzy hoodie thing and i offered it to her and she took it and so she wore that the whole weekend and um and from that point on we started talking and found out that she used to live out here in washington and so we kind of connected a lot and um i've hung out a few times she's flown out when she came out stayed a couple days for that.
Speaker: body cast for the for the kill that you're talking about, which didn't end up getting used. but um Yeah. G. she was wonderful and then when i called her up to so ask her if she would be a part of the second one She...
Speaker: was all in she Yeah. She's a great sport. a lot of fun to work with and just a sweetheart of a person and Fucking brilliant. um spending a couple of days with her Just hearing her talk in her mind, she's...
Speaker: She's really Really brilliant and smart. And and I was the one who was able to make her Darcy the male girl costume I made that for her and a couple other things for the show. so Yeah.
Speaker: Man of mayor many legends, Jason Brooks says. Um... It... And with some of the other actors that are in this. ah Again, you know... um With getting Steve Dash, with getting CJ Graham.
Speaker: um It must have been one of those things where it was just like... With getting CJ Graham. that had to be very fun too, because.
Speaker: Again. Another great Jason. you know, before we get you know, kane hotter and then everyone thinks well kane otter kane hotter well cj graham was actually the one that pretty much Was the Kane Hodder Jason before Kane Hodder Jason?
Speaker: Yeah. yeah uh no i loved cj graham as as jason for sure and that was another one where Win mythos. when it was called Mythos. um We try to run a Kickstarter. indiegogo and it didn't really do well we didn't have the the audience we needed we didn't have the followers we needed to be able to get the attention and get the money and people wanted a feature, not a short and Mythos was meant to be.
Speaker: a short So. After the... the Indiegogo ended and we didn't have quite enough. we Jeremy and I talked. and decided like, what are we going to do? And I said, why don't you do your Elias Voorhees story and add that into the mythos story? And then we'll combine it and make a feature.
Speaker: and he's like yeah but who do we get to play Elias. It's got to be You know. That's a big role. And. I was having a couple of beers and I was like, well, what if we.
Speaker: Talk to CJ. and get the Jason from part six to be the dad. you know and have him do it and he's like yeah like cj is gonna do it andm like why not Let's just try. And so we wrote them.
Speaker: on uh is Thursday the 12th in June. And then the next day on Friday the 13th. We got the response from CJ and he was at a... an event and he said yeah i'm in send send the l loi over and we'll do this and i love the idea let's do it And, um,
Speaker: And they were just like. if you don't try you don't succeed it's like you just gotta try it And then. yeah and then tom mclaughlin tommy mclaughlin same thing reached out to him he was loved it um Bugsy, who was in the Fright of 13th video game.
Speaker: um He was in it too. We had a Harry Manfredini do the score. who did the score for all the films. it was definitely like you said like a who's who all coming back we just So blessed to have so much interest from these people.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's it's definitely a passion project for everyone involved. and we We here in the horror community and the fan film community thank everyone.
Speaker: that was a part of vengeance one and bloodlines And... Now. getting on to Vengeance Part 2 Bloodlines. We are shown that.
Speaker: Alyssa? Great. doing
Speaker: Is that you? No! Oh, I keep hearing like this weird noise. Yeah. like that Yeah. It might be my headphones, maybe. Oh. Um,
Speaker: But, you know, with Vengeance Part 2 Bloodlines. You have. More. callbacks to Legends. You have Darcy, you have... as you said.
Speaker: Tom McLaughlin. Tom Matthews. you have Again, CJ Graham. So many more. Yeah. and we had Paul Taylor from Hello Razor Judgment and played Pinhead. We had Rob Mello from Happy Death Day.
Speaker: Um, CJ's wife Ruby was in it Yep. And. Uh... Yeah Darcy came back. um Yeah, it was... it was Fantastic.
Speaker: and then And then, of course, you brought in... um Tamara Glenn, who was Samantha in Halloween 5. Tamara Glenn, yeah. And Richie Ramone. Richie Ramone, yep. um And also Amber Brooks.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. some of the greatest but people that you could bring into a movie are in this movie. How was that all like? How was that all brought about? Was it just...
Speaker: reaching out or was it like hey you know uh We really loved your first one. We want to be in this one. Yeah, it was. a little bit of everything. I mean, we went back to CJ and um Tommy McLaughlin.
Speaker: Um, and we're like hey we're going to do a part two are you guys in they said yes uh and then As we're writing the story. um and started a cast, you know I started meeting other people.
Speaker: um I knew Rob. and paul from doing conventions and talk to them was like hey would you guys want to come in and do this and they they were down and then Darcy DeMoss.
Speaker: That one came a little bit later is actually we had the roles written for ah David Howard Thornton and Felisa Rose, and they were both going to come on. But they both ended up doing another movie together when we're filming. So neither of them could do it. They were both on the same.
Speaker: things So timing didn't work out. and so we end up um changing it and peter anthony actually was the one who said well what about darcy demas I was like, well, she died in part six.
Speaker: So how would we... Do that and he's like did she did we see her die? And say, okay. That's fair. So we called her up and she said the same thing. Well, I died in part six. How do we... did we see you die and so she was in and she is one of the Best.
Speaker: Most lovely souls in the world love her to death um Came out Reprise World did an amazing job. um And then... Tamara Glenn. i met her also uh at a whore convention doing some signings and stuff and we hung out for the weekend and she loved the idea so she jumped on board asked if she could you know also be a part two which we'd love to have her and then She...
Speaker: As we are going through. text me once and said, hey, my friend Richie is... wondering he's trying to get into acting. you deserve something for him and i was like well Not.
Speaker: So much. Not really. I mean, some small spots or something like that. And she goes, okay, well, I'm going to have him call you. Alright. so i remember being at work at the time getting a call from richie and and uh Get on the phone with him. He was like, hey, this is My name is Richie. Tamara sent me your way. We started talking and then.
Speaker: It became. clear throughout that phone call that that was Richie Ramone, not just some random guy named Richie. And I was like, wait a minute. your fucking richie ramone drummer for the ramones you know he's like yeah Yes, you could be in the, what the fuck? What? absolutely and he crushed it like he was so good and Um,
Speaker: And yeah, it was so crazy, my life. I remember. Thinking what is my life? I'm getting texts from Darcy getting texts from Tom McLaughlin um friends with cj graham and everything and i have richard ramon texting me saying hey i'm just coming out of the studio we just recorded a new album check it out give me your opinion we have it's not really fully mixed yet so don't judge too much but like I'm getting.
Speaker: pre -released albums to listen to. and what this is crazy and he even asked on set like could i write a song for you guys for the movie Yes, yes, absolutely. So we have a couple of his songs in there.
Speaker: and then um amber brooke She was. um she would I think this was her first movie. we I met her through a mutual friend.
Speaker: who was also in it she was also one of the the redneck um crew. ah who got shot with the arrows or got stabbed in the door with the arrows that's who i knew and she was friends with her And.
Speaker: said yeah i've got this very beautiful friend who is a model wants to be an actress can she be in it and And then one thing led to another. and There she is. So.
Speaker: Um, Yeah. But. otherwise ah Yeah, Richie took David Howard Thornton's spot. Darcy took Phyllisa Rose's spot. And which I think in the end worked out great. Yeah. yeah and i loved to bringing darcy's character back and it just added a little bit to it so Well...
Speaker: I remember meeting you and Darcy at the same time when me and Mark did a different podcast and you guys were so busy with promoting. vengeance part two that I had told Mark, I was like, bro, if I can ever get.
Speaker: Jason or Darcy were both on at the same time, i'd I'd consider that a win for the podcast because You guys were like... yeah we can do it but we gotta also go on this other podcast we're we're trying to promote this we're trying to really do press for it and it was like yeah let's do it and like me and mark both came away with it's like god we had so much many more questions we wanted to ask and That's why, like...
Speaker: As soon as Alyssa's like, well, who do you want on the show? I'm like, well, first, Peter Anthony, I want to get him on. I said, we need to get Jason back on because I said, there's so much more time that I wanted. But you guys were super busy and you had other commitments at that same night too. So it's I appreciate you 100 % for coming on here.
Speaker: Oh, no. Appreciate you having us. You know, um it's it's such a great opportunity to even be able to talk to you again, because like I said, you know, Vengeance won and then. with the sequel I think the sequel has... The better kills, I'm biased.
Speaker: But I've always said that. you know sequels are either hit or miss And with vengeance. Part two, it was definitely a hit. Thank you. Yeah on Part one, I did not do the kills on that one.
Speaker: Um, That was a combination of Joe Castro and... Chad from Raptor Props. They came in and did it. um There was a couple of things I. assisted in or helped.
Speaker: do for some of it. but um But yeah, and then also the makeup artist. ah onset. the lead makeup and special effects artist maddie also did that so but part two was uh naomi and i We created those and then had a team of some other artists who helped as well.
Speaker: um And. That's where we really got to. like shine because I wrote the script, so I was able to write the kills in. and then you know go to make the kills and be like, what the hell did I do to myself? I just wrote that now I got to make a spine that rips out of the body in this way. and nacy I was going to ask about that one. yeah So on on no budget, basically. So how do I?
Speaker: do that and so anyway we we worked our asses off to make those happen and so i'm really It's great to hear you say that. because we did put a lot of... Love, sweat, and tears. and oh Oh, definitely. And, you know, it... it You can tell. You can tell the passion. And and I remember when me and Alyssa did, you know.
Speaker: reviewing of some of our favorite horror movies I've always went with the fact that you know yeah you can have a higher budget movie and it flops. And that's why I always loved. low budget films. because You can tell the passion. It's like, hey.
Speaker: It needs to be a hit. Because if it ain't a hit, we're all forgotten. And you definitely had a hit there. Um, I do also know That.
Speaker: Alyssa. had wrote down a question about one of the kills and then all a sudden it shows the deputy cutting into a donut. yeah Yeah. Why did you have to ruin pastries for us? No, I love match cuts. and I had that in the script. I wanted it to be.
Speaker: machete coming down into the person then cutting straight to the donut i try to break something like that into all my stuff, but I don't know. I think it's fun Yeah, definitely. And of course, the Winnebago scene where he's just... Matt.
Speaker: killing everyone in sight, and everyone's just like... no No one's moving this roadblock or even trying to, you know... Get everything moving that that's another great scene The bridesmaids all just want to get get to the Chippendales. And next thing you know, they're all dead on the Winnebago. and did you Did you pick up the inside joke on that one?
Speaker: So CJ Graham. CJ Graham. when he was discovered he was a chippendale dancer Really? that picture that they're holding where where she's holding the poster up that is actually cj graham from when he was a chippendale And, uh,
Speaker: Yeah. And then that's where his wife, Ruby. um amazing lovely person too uh They're all there. So we put that inside joke of having CJ be the Chippendale dancer that they're going to go see.
Speaker: but I would have never picked that up. But granted, again, and Mark has told me many times, he's like, you got to watch it more than once because there's so many Easter eggs in there. You're never going to see them right away. Yeah. We try to be subtle with it, not too in your face, yeah but if you're a fan, you'll pick up on a lot. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. Well, like, I even told the list, I was like... Because Alyssa, she's the one person that's always like, well... You know, he's messing with one person. Why couldn't the rest of them run?
Speaker: And I'm just like, yeah, that's what happens in some of these movies. It's just like you're telling them, like, run, and run. But then at the same time, you also have to be like. Nope. You got to build that suspense. You got to have them try and save the character that's eventually going to, you know, get her spine ripped open. and Yeah, and it's it's one of those things where...
Speaker: It's... Already a complicated sequence having all these deaths and kills going on here and trying to create chaos and have everything match when you have that much going on and As we're filming it, I know a few people were like, I don't know how this is going to cut together. Will this even work? We might have to cut this whole scene.
Speaker: And when I edit it together. i know a lot of people were like oh my god how it It worked. and um and i had it in my head how it would kind of be cut together so that helped but It was very chaotic. And to try to trying to create that.
Speaker: environment where you did see chaos and people running like why didn't they all just run to the woods? So we did have some people run to the woods and we did have people run off this way and that way, but we have to have people running to go save their others and or help people who fall in. you know You have to have the heroes who end up dying. yeah all this going on so that No one's sitting there long enough.
Speaker: Trying to pay attention to one person going. Why didn't he just... Pose. gun out and start shooting or why didn't he do this why didn't he just get in his car and pull away you know you got to create enough chaos to yeah to warrant what's going on. on. Yeah.
Speaker: Um, And those poor stoners that were just trying to enjoy the cabin. and Next thing you got Jason pinning the woman with the fucking arrows. Like my favorite sequence.
Speaker: yeah I told Alyssa, I was like, I was like You know, it's almost kind of like Michael pinning someone to the to the thing in the air kills but i said it's so much better with the door because eventually someone's gonna have to open the door and just kind of have that Sorry.
Speaker: Yeah. sorry you died we tried to warn you but the human wreath yeah it was um Yeah, that was my favorite sequence when it came down to it in the end with just busting in the door and Going through the. the people. I love it when you have this kind of contained space where people can't really escape. and It's like fight or flight.
Speaker: And that's what we intended to do with the original vengeance as well with the prisoners. that scene originally they're all chained at the ankles and jason's just cutting through them and they can't get away so They have no choice but to try to defend themselves. And it's kind of like.
Speaker: on Star Wars Rogue One with Vader in the hallway. going cutting through all the rebels you know that's the same vibe i like i love that and um And so the original Vengeance prisoners are supposed to get their Beep. ankles degloved and and cutting off their own feet to try to run away that kind of thing and and then Mixed Ron.
Speaker: who was on there helping his production designer and art director for like nightmare and elm street and blade and leatherface and boogie nights and all that he was like no let's just do this like we did on texas chainsaw we're gonna go take the camera to the ground backwards and have all the carnage fly in because he He said, I don't want to have this like. Everyone was kung fu fighting. have a choreographed bite scene i don't want to do that let's just have the aftermath and Leave it to your imagination. So that's how we shot that. so Um,
Speaker: I wanted to bring something like that back. And I think that the... the cabin with the stoners was my My little way to kind of cut through and not have them being able to run necessarily.
Speaker: Well, I mean they tried to warn them Yeah. then They literally were just, I mean, Amber Brooke being Amber Brooke's character. She's just standing there wielding a knife like, stop! pointing at the good people like and then of course when she tries to get jason You know, he stabs and cuts one of her implants off, and it's just like, oh, my God. but again it's done in such a way that it's like these These kids could have left.
Speaker: Bye. They just... stupidly stay there and die. Don't do drugs, okay? Well, yeah anyhow I'm kind of screwed on that front.
Speaker: Yeah. But then you have Angelica and the cop, you know, they're also trying to leave. They're in the house and they're trying to get out. so Why they didn't use the front door that she got pinned to i don't But.
Speaker: I mean, they they kind of trap Jason to come in the other way because I'm like. Okay, he's got a chainsaw. And I remember when I watched it the first time, I'm like, oh. You might want to... You might want to get out that door now, but...
Speaker: The smart thing was... is how much a Jason is really a thinker in the way that he does his kills is he just leaves the chainsaw running While you're thinking that, you know, hey, you're going to come around that corner, he's there waiting for you. But in fact, he's actually came around and is now trying to get you from another angle.
Speaker: That is one of the. best things i think horror movies have lost. is where the killer is literally trying to bait you to stay where you are.
Speaker: But at the same time, it's like... Should we tance it? Should we, you know... Should we just stay here? Yeah, like wait around for him to kill us, or should we just... try and figure something out to get out of here and at least fight another day.
Speaker: And. Yeah. I mean just how smart that was. was one of like The best things. And I told Alyssa that I'm like. That's the one thing that would scare the crap out of me.
Speaker: is You don't know that he's not there Yeah. Yes, I see them because you hear them. Yeah. Where like with other horror movies. It's... They're all about the kill counts, but like within Friday the 13th, including this, yeah, there's a lot of kills in there, but it's also Jason...
Speaker: being smart enough to realize like, hey. I could go in there with the chainsaw. Yeah, they're gonna get me. But at the same time, I could just set this down while it's still running.
Speaker: and fake them out. Yeah. And i'm I'm really grateful you picked up on all that. And. I'm somebody who I do read some of the comments and feedback and I listen to people and.
Speaker: um because i always want to grow as a filmmaker and storyteller and one of the things i heard a lot from the first vengeance Um, was there wasn't enough. tension, not enough buildup, not enough stocking, not enough.
Speaker: lead into the kills it was like Jason shows up, kill, moves on, kill, move on, kill, move on. um And. that was i mean essentially we had to cut it down there was a little bit more but because you're trying to tell a story.
Speaker: um You have that story and we also have to get the kills and squeeze those in there. Some of the things you get sacrificed is... Um, The... duh tension building or the stocking in favor of keeping the character building and the story development and yeah stuff so um so on this one i really wanted to make sure that we listened to the feedback and what people want.
Speaker: and what we may have missed a little bit on the first one and I wanted to add more. of the stalking and the tension in the building. and some get some anxiety going so Yep. Yeah.
Speaker: So I'm glad you picked up on that. Bing. Kind of down the same vein. Talking about scaring. Have you ever... actually scared somebody. while you're on set. Oh yeah.
Speaker: Not on purpose. um but it is one of those things where I'll be. you know walking around or directing, interacting with people. And everyone's laughing and I'm... They say I'm a sweet guy and then. i put on the mask we call action and then we cut and they're like holy shit you scared the fuck out of me i I didn't realize, like, you just change in that moment. and um it's all very controlled i'm not one of those guys who gets in their head and gets aggressive and tries like I like. safety and i like um,
Speaker: planned, rehearsed. actions and everything but um but somehow putting that mask on and just towering over them and being in that character. ah few people have said that it's been a little a little scary and intimidating you know in the in the moment and they didn't expect that Well, and and you can tell you know, just from talking with you, how much of a great guy you are. But like you said, you know, once once you put on that mask, it's almost kind of like.
Speaker: You have to live up to being jason Oh, it's big shoes to fill, yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you you do a very great job at doing that. um I think we'd be remiss if we didn't ask how many injuries were incurred on these films. Yeah.
Speaker: Um, I'm the only one that I know that got injured. Um, And it was. On. Venues two, I broke.
Speaker: ribs twice. Um, Oh. okay it was during the final showdown when angelica uh and I are fighting in the in the church. Um,
Speaker: i um i have my arms around her and she climbs up the church podium and then falls back We did that safely like seven, eight times. And on the very last one. when she kicked off.
Speaker: we kind of Fell a little sideways. missed um kind of land on the side of the mat and her elbow or shoulder hit my rib and broke my rib. And then we had to finish the rest of the six hours of the fight scene.
Speaker: So everything after that, I've got a broken wrist. I can barely breathe. And, you know, like with a chain around the neck and I'm reaching and she's crawling on my back. All that was done with a... The broken rib. And then when we did...
Speaker: Pickups later. several months later where you wanted to get when we had Tom Matthews Um, or shooting all that. when she runs out of the car jumps on me and starts stabbing me In the first Vengeance,
Speaker: I wanted that where it's just this crazy stabbing and we they only kept one or two hits. I want it to be. more. so i was like i'm gonna write it in so we get more and then she was afraid she's gonna hurt me But I'm like, hey, I have these pads on.
Speaker: from the Truck hit. Like when the trucks yeah you know go tumbling, I've got. pads on so Feel it. It's great. i'm Solid. And she's like, okay, good. And she took the rubber knife and started hitting and hitting and hitting, and then... as she was going instead of going straight down she kind of started coming from the side Oh, yeah. under the pad.
Speaker: And I felt that it pop. So it didn't actually break. It's just the cartilage. kind of disconnected the cartilage from the rib. and um And then. finished out the night there as well ah And that was the rest of the finale with Tom Matthews. I'm like, I can't.
Speaker: leave we got tom tonight we're gonna film this i'm laying on the ground and anyway then i went to the doctor the next day and again they scolded me for not coming in right away because Ribs.
Speaker: Yeah, that's a that's big deal. if you can if you puncture lung that's not good yeah so Go to the doctor, kids, if you break a rib. but And then...
Speaker: on Roseblood. um when I was a saw blade. cutting ah cutting the girl in half. Yep. when we're doing that and i was getting the blood splattered my face the effects team that was there Spraying it Somehow.
Speaker: there was maybe some rust or some sort of metal particles that were in the blood. So it got in my eye. And after I i do that. I. I put the, I turned, I put the...
Speaker: Weedwacker down. slam it down and i go over and i look up into the security camera I had practiced rehearsed that so many times that I knew how to do it. So when the blood hit my eye.
Speaker: It was burning so bad and hurting. I had my eyes closed and I did it blind. I literally walked over, put it down, slammed it down, walked over the camera, turned. looked up and then they called cut and then i was like okay i need the medic And they pulled eight tiny little pieces to set me up. eight tiny little shards of metal out of my eye.
Speaker: Um, And then... i ah later on in that same shoot. when I grabbed the machete by the blade from the body. When I see Michael and I rip it out.
Speaker: The props people didn't dull the blade enough so it sliced all the way through the silicone glove into my fingers and hands and i felt my Glove filling up with blood.
Speaker: So I went over to Peter and I was like, hey, don't tell the AD. But I opened my hand up and you can see the blood just pooling in my in my hand and pouring out and I was like You got to finish the scene I'm just going to hold it closed. and ah we'll get through it but just so you know I can't use this hand.
Speaker: um And we did that and then. when um When the guard comes over, same night. It's brutal. um And he's hitting me with that metal suitcase.
Speaker: over and over again. Again, we practice it so many times over and over again, very safely. And then on the last hit. as you're swinging it the handle one of the connectors broke off on the hinge and it swung and angled and it hit my forearm and it fractured my arm.
Speaker: And then. um And that was the night where we had to do the fire. the face off of the fire and Saniya being lifted. and all that stuff um And so I could feel my arms swelling.
Speaker: inside there and had these latex arm pieces. of the skin that were kind of like clamped down almost like a blood pressure cuff and i could feel my arm just tight in there the whole time. and um Anyway.
Speaker: went to the doctor the next day i got the x -rays saw that we fractured my arm and um Yeah. And I think those are Most of it. but there's so There's probably a few that you know aren't going to be mentioned. and Minor things, but yeah, stub to toe. you and of Does the yeah ER staff know you by first name? No, no, thankfully.
Speaker: You should get a punch card, though.
Speaker: So. We were what were... We're going to wrap up here shortly. We just want to ask. um I haven't seen Death of Snow White yet. Bye. but Oh my god. If Mark was still in here, he'd tell you some of the things he said about me and with that. um I've been dying to see it. it's just i've been So busy.
Speaker: with trying to, like when when Because I had been on the podcast game for like... What? year, two years. ohio And... Mark was always like trying to get me back in. and you know trying to do the fame and i kept always telling them the famous al pacino line every time i you know want to get out they want to bring me back in and of course my wife. you know being the deciding factor she's like we're gonna do a podcast And I was like, okay, you know, and.
Speaker: Um, i i had told mark i was like i really gotta see death of snow white And every time I go to sit down to try and watch it. something else comes up he tells me about another fan film that i gotta watch and it's like god mark i'm trying to watch these fan films because with
Speaker: Brian on talking shit. Do your research, brother. Because like Mark has to... tell brian what happens i think brian's changed his ways but like i i told mark i'm like that would drive me nuts because like with vengeance i had to watch it i i could have someone describe it to me but like i told this i'm like you have to watch it Yeah.
Speaker: Like it takes away. the greatness that are both films if you're just hearing someone tell you what they saw. Yeah. and he is left up to your imagination you don't get the same experience but Yeah.
Speaker: And, you know... um I will. get to death of snow white i will even do a review on it and i say hey you know a few people told me to see this and finally got around to it But, you know, I just, I appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Speaker: Thank you so much. Thank you for being a great. filmmaker in general hopefully one day hollywood will see their mistake and bring you into the fold and allow you to make.
Speaker: even better movies than we're seeing in Hollywood right now. well i've got some opportunities right now um I got a meeting this week. I might be signing a contract for something. bigger that will be fun.
Speaker: Um, So there's some Things on the horizon. And plus, as Mark has probably told you many times when he interviewed you, um if you ever need a free kill. yeah I would tell Peter Anthony that last time when... We did. me and mark did the other show i told peter anthony i'm like Just make it look good.
Speaker: Like if you got to spray blood all over me, fine. I'm fine with that. They don't need to know it's me. They just throw me through a window. I told Peter Anthony, I'm like, just don't Dr. Loomis me. you know through a window where i i miss my mark and end up getting cut worse than i should have been but i i've I've always wanted to do stuff like that But like I told Alyssa, I'm like...
Speaker: Good thing I have medical now because I know what... how bad my knees have gotten. I'm just like... Hey. if i ever got into that situation jason or peter would be like hey you're gonna do this fall down the stairs tumble and you know make it look good And it's just like.
Speaker: Okay, I guess. four Yeah. Oh, no, i've I've told the list. I'm like, if I ever get that chance to be in a fan film or anything, I said, if they need me to do the stunt, I'll do the stunt. I'll probably injure myself, but I'm gonna do it.
Speaker: Yeah, that's how I've always been. and Like even the fire stunt in Vengeance 2. I wanted to do that so badly. and in the end they talked me out of it and said you know you're the writer the directory or the jason if something happens to you this production stuff.
Speaker: yeah So let the pros do what the pros do. and It was good advice. I still, you know. I'm envious. of Thomas Marshall who who doubled me for that and I had that experience as amazing. and But...
Speaker: He did an amazing job and yeah. But yeah, I just... as i get older too i'm realizing Stunt people. are wonderful. I know a lot of them they do great and they can, you know.
Speaker: Do things safely. and Yeah. make you make you look amazing so and Oh definitely. Needed less. Yeah, yeah and less punch cards needed, less hospital visits needed. Bye. there is something about doing your own stunts and being in the moment and being able to have that experience. It's it's really... something great.
Speaker: Well, thank you again Jason. We appreciate you 100%. um Once I get done watching some of your other movies, I'd like to have you back on sometime down the road to it.
Speaker: to interview on those. I know Death of Snow White is one. Mark has talked. to me about um Dice Reloaded Yep, Diced and a sequel now coming.
Speaker: um i'm I'm hoping. um The director has been talking about a sequel for a while. Epic would like one. They just need to make sure that enough people are aware of it and see it so that it. you know. yeah It's a worthy investment.
Speaker: So definitely pass the word. And. That's another one. Where can people learn about it? Diced? Diced Reloaded is... out on amazon and tubi and all the normal places to go watch movies Um, Death of Snow White, same thing. is Amazon.
Speaker: ah Apple TV. Fandango at home. Like everywhere. It's just everywhere. Um, You can buy it on Blu -ray, DVD, same with Diced, Reloaded.
Speaker: And. Yeah, or you could go to our page, realfictionstudios .com. or look up real fiction studios effects on instagram facebook we'll have a lot of information about everything or just contact us through there and we can guide you to where you want to go.
Speaker: definitely I mean you know And again, thank you so much for bringing these fan films to reality because. Honestly. We do need some more Jason in our life. Granted, we now have the new show, which... i i told the list i'm like i think they did really good in the direction they're doing it it's just
Speaker: We're now waiting for the movies and how they're going to do it. Are they going to still have Friday the 13th without Jason now? Or is it going to be Jason without Friday the 13th? It's still such a mess. And at least we got the show now.
Speaker: linda cartolini was so great i told the list i'm like you know There was just one actor that they should have got in there and they needed to do it. And that's Jason Brooks. I think you would have done such a great job in that.
Speaker: There was so many times where I so i even said it with. when talking with Mark, I was like, So many of the people from Vengeance would have done very well on that show, too. I would have loved to.
Speaker: Yeah. i haven't I haven't seen it yet. It's on my list to watch. i've just been It's been a very busy month for us. and it's up But I've been hearing good things about it. And I've had a few people reach out.
Speaker: Um, saying that there's like nods to Past. actors yeah like Kane Hodder. there's a an officer or something. or something about Hodder Kane.
Speaker: Yep. And then ah people have reached out and so asked about an Officer Brooks. who's in there and I don't have any connection with it. I decided to do that on purpose as a little.
Speaker: secret Easter egg, but I don't know. Yeah, that would be. epi big Are there any other horror movies that you would like to... recreate like Halloween, or You know, hey, Blumhouse, since you're not really doing anything with my bloody Valentine anymore.
Speaker: There's your guy right there. That my bloody Valentine would be a lot of fun. halloween i mean just about anything i Even ones that are like not on the top of my list.
Speaker: it'd be fun to give my version of it to to make it something I would love to see. um But yeah, I just...
Speaker: Yeah, I'm hoping I get some opportunities like that after. this next movie. you you definitely deserve a man like Hollywood needs fresh people that can look at these franchises. I mean, like, Pex Chainsaw Massacre now. They're going to reboot that.
Speaker: all the Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's like, come on, you know, like give these. independent filmmakers a chance because independent filmmaking no matter what big Hollywood wants to say.
Speaker: are 10 times better than what big Hollywood's putting out right now. it It seems to be because, you know, big Hollywood, they're putting a lot of money into it and they really want to protect their investments by giving the formula they they believe has worked for so long.
Speaker: But. you know People don't want to eat the same dinner every night. now You know, you want to try something new. and different so i think that's what we're seeing right now in the industry is Yeah.
Speaker: people like curry barker and markiplier and all that and they're seeing independent. ideas and voices. being popular and so that might give people like uh,
Speaker: me or other independent filmmakers opportunities that we may not have otherwise had because They're seeing the money. And hopefully they focus on the right thing and see that it is. Yeah. kind of un...
Speaker: Leashed. creativity and risk -taking and chances where it's not the safe route because safe filmmaking in the sense of don't take it too far. Don't do yeah the formula. That's what people are tired of. And that's why these other ones are successful. So.
Speaker: All right, sir, we will let you go. um Is there anything else that you would like to plug while we still have you? Is there... any TV show.
Speaker: that Jason Brooks is going to be a part of. I wish I could talk about what I... what i'm about to do um you'll still have to have me back on later but yeah um yeah just keep watching keep following me follow the real fiction studios account and you'll see some of these up and coming things and um Yeah. And we just got done. where in the middle of editing a film called crack for screamify This is their first original feature film.
Speaker: And so that will be coming out soon. um by the around the end of the year. And. Um, a bunch of other things coming in the future. so yeah Keep it up. Keep it up, brother. We we have faith in you.
Speaker: We're all rooting for you. We're hoping that, you know... You get your due diligence. um Yeah, we're... we're We're excited for all your projects and we hope to see you. get to that very plateau that you you are wanting to get to because we know We all got goals and we know that. the saga of jason brooks as a filmmaker actor director producer special effects person is
Speaker: It's still waiting to be written. And you know, it's got a lot of chapters. Yeah, we've got to start by watching Death of Snow White so people, you know, that get those numbers up so that I can help me out. Oh, please. you guys You guys had a premiere on that one, didn't you?
Speaker: yeah down in hollywood we had the player and it was in the it ran in the regal cinemas for five weeks in um select regal cinemas around the country. and um Yeah, so it had had a good run, but just we don't have the multi -million multimillion dollar marketing budget to get more eyes on it. So people are still discovering it.
Speaker: which is great. They happen across it and check it out. and it's one of those Things that I'm hoping one day the right eyes find it Yeah. and mention itself.
Speaker: And they will. It just it takes time. I mean, heck, even Halloween, the first one was a slow burn until someone... decided to happen upon it and say how scary it was. Yeah.
Speaker: So thank you again, Jason. Thank you guys. We've monopolized enough of your time. But next time you come on the show, we will have a. Kind of a trivia game. We're kind of... trying to piece it together and And I know Mark was like, hey, you know, you could do something based off of what we do. And I'm like.
Speaker: I don't want to copy you guys. i I love Florida, not Florida. But I said, I think the certified Jarvis needs something. so we're we're We're hoping eventually someone comes up with the million dollar idea.
Speaker: That says, hey, you know, this is what you should do for trivia. But thank you again, Jason. Of course. We appreciated you on the show, and we will have you back. Thank you so much. Appreciate you having me on.
Speaker: Alright. Thank you all. And see you later, Jason. I'll see you. Bye. So, everyone, that was Jason Brooks, legendary filmmaker.
Speaker: He doesn't get his due. i mean this guy is one of the greatest filmmakers, independent, you can call them whatever you want. He is such an amazing guy Um, Go check out.
Speaker: vengeance if you haven't. go check out vengeance part two i mean you already seen if you've seen the first one you gotta you gotta watch the full story and also go check out Diced.
Speaker: and wait for more information on possibly a sequel to that. and go check out death of snow white Make sure when you do check out these films. that you do like.
Speaker: Comment. And. you know, Tell these people how great of a job they're doing. Because you know what? That same old formula in Hollywood, it it just ain't cutting anymore.
Speaker: We need these independent filmmakers. So please, the support means so much to them. And it means so much to us because. Without them. We're dealing with the same old shit.
Speaker: So... I'm Steven Jarvis. That's Alyssa. And we will see you. next time. Happily married. Questionably certified.
