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Speaker: hello everyone Welcome back to another amazing episode. of the Certified Drivers Podcast. I... I'm always co -host Stephen Jervis with the other co -host.
Speaker: Alyssa? Wow. She should have said her name, but I said it because I'm going to ask. I was going to say you said it before I even had a chance to say it. So, a yes, I did.
Speaker: Um, But today we are doing a Halloween 1978 review. Asking ourselves, is Michael Myers still the king of horror?
Speaker: Alyssa. what do you What are your thoughts on Halloween 1978? End. Do you believe that Michael Myers is still the king of horror? okay My thoughts on the 1978 version of Halloween.
Speaker: It's kind of a mixed bag of... Thoughts? So... Initially, when I first watched it. I was like, God, this movie is so...
Speaker: Fucking slow. Initially. And even to this day, I still think that the the opening. Is so slow.
Speaker: And for me... That is something that I really struggle with, especially when you get into... the supposed to be more action -y movies, the more... Um.
Speaker: horror -esque movies. I don't like a very slow bit beginning i I want to get up to speed. Like that. So I really struggle with. um With the beginning of the movie, but once the movie actually starts to kind of catch its stride I think it is actually a really great movie.
Speaker: at the end of the day Oh.
Speaker: And yes, there there is still something to be said about... a movie building a story behind it. i I do get that. That's not lost on me.
Speaker: But I think there's also a delicate balance between the two. If that makes sense. Oh, 100 % agree. um And end to me. I'm okay with the slow build. um I think.
Speaker: One of the best things that they did with the movie was... Instead of. going. showing Michael right away. I think what. was cool was The opening theme.
Speaker: and the pumpkin. And John Carpenter's Halloween. I thought that was cool. Like... When I first seen it during... amc horror month as a six -year -old kid after watching halloween h2o well being forced to watch halloween h2o because my brother yeah Sad Omni. Asshole.
Speaker: I was a few years older than you the first time I saw that. Yeah, well my parents didn't give a shit. Um... ah but No, like... it They did not give a shit.
Speaker: All clarity I was in my 20s before I saw that movie for the first time. Hate on me. Yeah, she was a baby horror fan. um But...
Speaker: As I was saying, I do really love how John Carpenter. added that tension because like When you hear that theme. It just, it it to me, it amplified and scared the shit out of me.
Speaker: And then, of course. When it's... when you get that little bit of monologue by the kids and they're like trick or treat giggle and then it shows a figure walking up to a house. house.
Speaker: which is Michael. But we don't know it's Michael. and you know he's wandering around he sees judith and her boyfriend getting ready to you know have sex and fool around and all that shit. um What's that?
Speaker: That man must have been a quick one pump because he was out of that house before you know it. And... ah Yep folks, he went there.
Speaker: Well yeah, I'm going to. Because I do the same thing. but um I think it was interesting. How? We all thought it was a ah child's hand.
Speaker: Or... a male's hand It was actually Deborah Hill's hand that grabs the knife. in them in the beginning. And... That first person.
Speaker: Follow. Up to where he. goes up the stairs, kills Judith. And then goes back down the stairs and the parents show up. Take the mask off and go, Michael.
Speaker: Like. that to me. was like what the hell am i watching because Hey. And the thing that I think a lot of people who think it's boring or too slow or whatever.
Speaker: Okay. You have to look at it. from that time. Like... This is a suburban. household. area. you know And to have.
Speaker: That happened in that type of area back in those days. Was probably so unheard of. That it worked. Nowadays. you could you could get away with it being in a big city or you know suburbs again or low income.
Speaker: areas. But what made it really work was They didn't show my... right away until after he comes back and the parents unmask him. Um,
Speaker: I do kind of wish. that, you know, we could have seen
Speaker: Not only Michael being taken away. As a kid. but also like the court appearance. and how he was in Smith's Grove.
Speaker: Like we would later get in the TV version. We got the deleted scenes where Loomis is talking to the board saying, you know, he's. You need ah You need to believe that this person is.
Speaker: Pure fucking evil. And... I think... That was such a missed opportunity. That way. yeah We hit that rainy night where... Loomis and...
Speaker: Ah. Nurse Marion. are going up to... Smith's Grove to pick Michael up to go. to the court where he's going to be tried as an adult.
Speaker: um I think there's a lot missed opportunities in the beginning. but What a way to start the movie. And. And in all honesty... I think if they wouldn't have had... that music playing.
Speaker: In the beginning. I don't think it would have had that factor of. What are we what's going to happen next? Right. That music.
Speaker: helps out that movie. So much. And yes, I do agree it does have pacing issues, but... But you also have to look at it as.
Speaker: John Carpenter wasn't trying to make a slasher film. He was trying to make a thriller movie. Where it's like. It... And it's kind of like Jaws in that way.
Speaker: where when that music really hits that high crescendo. It's almost like, oh, fuck, you know. Michael's coming, Lori. Like, you gotta to get out of that house now. Like, now, Lori. And when she punches through the window and removes the rake.
Speaker: It that. Tempo. And... ah how How do you say that word? Tempo and... the Not momentum, but the the whole...
Speaker: The pacing. though Well, not pacing it. I wish I could remember the word. but When it hits that absolute. hitch. where Michael's in the kitchen.
Speaker: He just gets through the door. and she breaks out It's almost like... um It's almost orgasmic to know that she gets out in the nick of time.
Speaker: And I know people are gonna be like, well, what does he mean by orgasmic? Because you're with her. in that moment going like lori get the hell out Like, what are you waiting for? you you see something like she's turning the knob and it's not moving It's not opening. Like, come on, Laurie, don't wait. well when he finally rounds the corner after breaking through the kitchen door in uh Wallace House.
Speaker: you know, it's almost. to that point of of. And then orgasm wasn't really a great word, but it's almost to that point of where it's like. Fuck she's dead Like, he's there now. She's dead. But she gets out.
Speaker: Great. And I think. That helped with the pacing. I think it really did. um Michael. Michael being slow and methodical. is my favorite Michael.
Speaker: I'll die on that hill. like in the other movies he became just an ultimate killing machine because of what Friday the 13th did and All that with the high body counts.
Speaker: I think if Michael. And the other sequels would have kept up with that pace of him. Picking and choosing. who he wanted to kill. And that's the thing. People look for theories in the movie like, oh, well, he killed Annie because. She...
Speaker: reminded him of Judith or he targeted Lori because he reminded her of Judith or he target killed uh,
Speaker: ah Not Annie, but, um, well. He kills her, but um Linda. because she's this way. I think the movie was just a straight up.
Speaker: thriller, horror -esque movie where John Carpenter just wanted to tell the story of this kid who went nuts once upon a time, and then all of a sudden he gets out. And.
Speaker: He's doing it again. Right, well, and kind of back to your comment about that you like how methodical Um. Michael is.
Speaker: IS -2 is too I do. I think that that is something that sets them apart from other. horror thrill movies.
Speaker: Just because most horror thriller movies, it is about the body count. It's not... Well, well slash it's not slasher movies. It's about the body count. Right.
Speaker: um But anyways, so...
Speaker: it It kind of sets him apart and it... Dare I say it? it shows a bit of human side to him. In that. He...
Speaker: He does think about what he's doing Like a human would. And it's not just a... Ooh, I see a person. Let's.
Speaker: Um.
Speaker: i don't I don't care who they are. let's Kill them, you know. kind of a thing
Speaker: well where and I. i most horror movies are like. I... And. Having that. human -esque side.
Speaker: shows kind of like a Almost a weakness of sorts. But at the same time, he is such a powerhouse that. having that little bit of a weakness.
Speaker: doesn't diminish his character, if that makes sense. it It very much does. I mean, and his weakness is. Okay. And this is huge.
Speaker: Um... If Lori would have fucking opened her eyes when she drops the key off at the Myers house, she would have seen him a long time ago. but Um... You know...
Speaker: It's that. age -old fable of the boogeyman where the kids can see him and And Lori can't at first. And so. the momentum of Well, why can't Lori look?
Speaker: look through the window, he's there. Or, you know, look behind you, he's there. or how did he somehow magically disappear when he goes behind the bushes like it It's almost like...
Speaker: and And me and you have said this before. So you have Michael, the human being. But when he puts on that mask, it... it Like... yeah It metamorphosizes him, and I think I said that right.
Speaker: Big words, people. I'm going somewhere with this. It kind of transforms him. Even better. to The Shape. Because you have Michael Myers and then you have The Shape.
Speaker: And... I think once. The shape. kind of molded Michael into what it wanted. through the mask. That's when Michael seemed to... er ceased to exist.
Speaker: in Loomis's eyes, which... we would see how much crazier loomis would get in the sequels but I always thought that Loomis was... Kind of like.
Speaker: Van Helsing or like Dr. Frankenstein. In a way. in telling people that hey this monster has escaped and it's only going to do one thing it's going to kill Right. and you know, um
Speaker: I think with Michael. Yeah. Halloween wasn't made to be a slasher movie. And he makes mistakes in the way that.
Speaker: He. He lets Lori live. Instead of going for the kill when she sees her friends butchered, He, he...
Speaker: Slashes at her arm.
Speaker: But at the same time, it's that method... It's that ah inability of his to finish her off when he has the momentum. on his side.
Speaker: yeah I mean... When? She comes into the house. and she hears movement upstairs. It's almost like Michael daring her.
Speaker: Come up See what's going on. We're your friends, Lori. Where are they? Come. see what I've done with them. And like the Bob kill. Like, when he stabs him against, pins him against the... um wall.
Speaker: Like... He stands back and he just looks. very's Almost like he's admiring it. well exactly exactly and we've heard many podcasts and commentaries even allude to he Yeah.
Speaker: He's almost in awe of what he did. And I know the book, the novelization goes into whenever he kills someone, it's kind of like an orgasmic feeling to him.
Speaker: which... Thank God they left that out of the movie. But in a way, it's it's almost like telling the truth. Great. So I mean, it it gets to that point.
Speaker: Where. When he can't kill Lori. and he's going after her and she's banging on the doors well then he shows up while she's crossing this the road And.
Speaker: It's that. Tempo of... He's coming. Laurie, he's coming. Laurie, he's coming. he's He's now crossing the road. And she finally gets Tommy to come down. Well, when he's crossing the road and Tommy finally gets off his little fucking ass and opens a goddamn door.
Speaker: It's all. most to that point where Bam, he's right there. She's gone. But she escapes. She locks the door. Somehow he gets in the house.
Speaker: through a window. Where. It's almost like he he he fucking opened that window before he even... knew she was coming to the house.
Speaker: But I mean, again, that's another... You're diving into another thing there. um But I mean, the pacing at times is slow, yes. Um, The cut. between what Michael's doing and what Loomis and the sheriff are doing.
Speaker: Very very awesome. I enjoyed it. um Some of them were throwaway scenes. just because Like when. When Loomis is like Lonnie get your ass away from there.
Speaker: And all of a sudden he sees the car like. How the hell do you miss the car? Like, you've you've looked for this car. all through the whole movie and all sudden bam it's right there like how the hell do you miss that Great.
Speaker: And so it it's almost like.
Speaker: I don't know. It's almost like Loomis. knew Michael was Somewhere in the town. It's just. He was so interested on the Myers house.
Speaker: That he didn't know. that Bam! He's here. He's on the he's near. somewhere, like... yeah Loomis allows Michael to kill.
Speaker: I really believe that in my heart. He allows Michael to kill because he's so enamored. at Yeah. essence or aura of what Michael...
Speaker: has become. which is pure. purely and simply evil. And death has come to your town, Sheriff. you can either help me to eliminate it or watch it Or however he says it.
Speaker: and And I think this is very right in. in that whole statement. Oh, very much. Very much. Um... And Brackett is very right in not understanding what he's dealing with.
Speaker: Right. um Well, I mean, it's... it Most town that hasn't. Hasn't had to deal with a With Michael. with Michael, but...
Speaker: Also just a... Mass. Um...
Speaker: Mass killing spree. Yeah, thank you. Well, and and also a piggybacking off of that. I don't agree.
Speaker: I mean, the mass killing spree, yes. I agree with you on that. But... Whenever. Loomis. And the sheriff talk. They do talk about the night that he killed his sister.
Speaker: Right. But that that's just not so. you No, yeah, yeah. I agree with you. Well, I mean, you got to realize, though, back in the day. Shit like that didn't happen in the fucking suburbs.
Speaker: Right. And that's what made it so scary. Right, exactly. I mean yes. the The way they paint ah paint it is that...
Speaker: This happened and the town was still scarred by it, but it's like. He's never coming back. So what are we worried about? Well, when he does come back. it's almost like, oh shit.
Speaker: We're gonna relive this shit again, but we gotta stop them. and bracket. I love Bracket. I hated what they did to him in Halloween 2, and I also hate what they did to him in Halloween Kills.
Speaker: Like. In Halloween Kills, it was so stupid that... He's a security guard at Haddonfield Memorial Hospital. And it's like. Really? You would...
Speaker: have retired to become a security guard at a hospital. like no you're gonna want to make sure that motherfucker who killed your little girl You're going to make sure that that motherfucker was dead.
Speaker: or in custody. And like one thing. In the flashback scenes. Of. Halloween kills that I didn't really understand.
Speaker: was Where was Bracket? When Michael got captured.
Speaker: Right. Because...
Speaker: In those flashback scenes, we We see Hunt. We see Deputy Hunt.
Speaker: But then... They also knew about the three teenagers being murdered. So it kind of made me wonder if it was like... If. bracket had found out.
Speaker: You okay? Yeah, I just. is twitching uncontrollably Like she's over there almost passing out and here I am wide -eyed And...
Speaker: it's almost to that point like They showed. bracket not being there that he's trying he's probably going home to tell his wife what had happened.
Speaker: But at the same time, like, I felt Brackett should have been there.
Speaker: And if he is there and I'm sure someone will comment and be like, well, he was there in the flashback. It's just you don't notice him because it's a different actor playing him as a young bracket, which. Could be the...
Speaker: could be Could be. But I mean, this motherfucking maniac killed your little girl. You're not going to just. disappear into the night looking to tell your wife no you're gonna hunt this fucker down Right.
Speaker: And I think... Because you're going to want...
Speaker: Go ahead. I was just going to say, right, because you just at the end of the day, you're going to want justice for your daughter and for your family just in general. You you want that closure.
Speaker: Well, yeah, and I mean, even in Halloween 2 when they... when they have them go like you let them out.
Speaker: And all that. It's like. Yes, I get the grief. But at the same time, like. You looking at Loomis and blaming him for the state stupidity? Like, no.
Speaker: like Loomis tried his damnedest to make sure that Michael never seen the light of fucking day, but because the state. was like, well, you know, he's...
Speaker: He's comatose. He's mute. He doesn't talk. He doesn't he just sits there. We don't see him as a threat. Well, it's like, okay, you don't see him as a threat, but wouldn't you trust a guy that's worked with him for how many fucking years? like like That would be asinine to not believe that.
Speaker: And he's just the guy that ends up being tasked with... um Stop cleaning up. there Yeah. Well, and like he even said to, uh...
Speaker: to win Dr. Wen. Like... When they're like... We're not responsible for this. And he's like, oh, no.
Speaker: Almost mocking him like you are responsible for this because you allowed this to happen. Like Loomis fucking told you, begged you, pleaded with you that this was going to happen, but you didn't believe him.
Speaker: And when they showed up at the gate in the movie. And she's like. um What? Why are they wandering around? And he's almost to that point like. He knows who did it.
Speaker: He knows it was Michael. Right. And... I love how he refers to Michael as the evil. when we when he's talking with the nurse.
Speaker: And he's like, the evil's gone. it's gone away from here it It just shows you. The depths of. what we're dealing with.
Speaker: And... Also, it goes in more depth. of Who? Michael really is.
Speaker: Because I mean the guy And that's why I think I do like the remake and how they did it. was that it it literally progressed that Michael could talk.
Speaker: but Eventually he just... became. Silent. Alright. And that's why. Go ahead, sorry. No, you good. Go ahead.
Speaker: That's why I think we needed. those deleted scenes in the movie. Not. just as deleted scenes i think they should have stayed in the movie Because it would have worked.
Speaker: so much better. had we had those scenes. it would have kind of filled in the gap. Right, and ah and again, that would show a little more of his human side.
Speaker: Yeah. Versus just... a machine. Well, and I think that's why John Carpenter didn't show those ones in the... in the In the final cut. Because, but again, it would have humanized them.
Speaker: Right, but at the same time... You still want to be able to connect with characters. So you still have to have some sort of
Speaker: humanization to an extent. What'd you do? You do. It's him. Walking around in broad daylight. When if...
Speaker: Anyone in real life would have seen that. That mother fu - Halloween night does not become the boogeyman's. Party like that motherfucker would have been locked up in real life right away.
Speaker: Hey Kyle, how are you doing today, buddy?
Speaker: Um, And if you haven't yet. kind of piggybacking off that. Go. Check out horror and report. Kyle Curtis -Flett. Great guy. Amazing podcaster.
Speaker: Deals with everything from horror movies to pop culture to even interviews. But back to the main segment. We are doing very good, Kyle. um As you.
Speaker: are hearing we are talking about The greatest Halloween. ever. assembled and it was like avengers Halloween being tomorrow. we We just had to.
Speaker: Yeah, I kind of wish we would have held on to doing it tomorrow. but We also have the guest thing on Sunday, so I kind of wanted to do it tonight. Um. But yeah, i think I think we do get Michaels.
Speaker: human side. Even with him wearing the mask. because Like we said before. He makes stupid mistakes. Like he literally makes. dumb mistakes. And that.
Speaker: When you have the opportunity to kill Lori. like You don't. You miss. You slice her arm. She tumbles over the fucking... the um Bannister?
Speaker: I think it is or the railing. of the stairs and then she hurts her leg But and then at the same time, like he looks down. At her. And then he walks around the stairs and he's right there.
Speaker: And you're just like. Get up, Lori. Get up, Lori. He's there. You know, and she tries the front door, which doesn't open. So it's kind of like. That's why I kind of have a problem with when she goes up the stairs.
Speaker: I don't think he was up there I think that was just. The control, the. Bob kind of. Something was breaking upstairs.
Speaker: and made a noise. I think he was downstairs somewhere. Because. How the hell would he have gotten... The trap on the... um On the back door.
Speaker: And. How would have you gotten the front door not to open anymore? it's It's like he... broke the front door Like the handle. And then...
Speaker: Um... While she was... fucking around. Colin for them. He was or. What he probably did. Honestly, is when he was carrying Annie.
Speaker: He probably. Cut that exit off where you put the rake up against the door. And then when he was carrying her in.
Speaker: It's almost like that was the only escape. for anyone so he was like Okay. I now know Which way they got to get out?
Speaker: So I can take that out once Bob and Linda show up. And I mean, he was fucking around downstairs while they went upstairs. Like he had to have been. See, and I think that's what makes the movie's so good.
Speaker: is it It leaves that mystery. It doesn't... Oh, yeah. it doesn't close off that mystery with an answer so you can make your mind wander and I think that's really important in any suspenseful movie.
Speaker: Because then your mind can just. put together a story that day. You want it to be.
Speaker: And that can be different than what... I want it to be. Well definitely. What?
Speaker: Joe down the street wants it to be. Well and plus that music. That. Bum bum. Bum bum.
Speaker: Bum bum. All that. Once it hits that crescendo. it's It's almost like you a roller coaster ride where where you get to the very top, it stops, and then just goes.
Speaker: Great. And it keeps going until... Loomis arrives, which... If it wasn't for them screaming fucking kids, you know.
Speaker: If it wasn't for those meddling kids, I would have gotten away with it. wrong movie Well, yeah But, I mean... Loomis is very lucky those kids showed up when they did.
Speaker: Great. And so he goes in there, he runs up the stairs. Michael is... Fucking choking the life out of Lori. And we see his face. But before all that happens, we're back in. the Wallace house.
Speaker: Or the Doyle house. uh michael has somehow managed to open up a window and get through there. Without her even fucking noticing it somehow. and takes out the phone.
Speaker: Well... She ends up being a dumb. Fucker. And... Yeah, definitely crazy. It'll be 50 years in two years.
Speaker: that the 50th anniversary of the film. Um. Uh... The one thing. that i think is so stupid is he had so many more chances to kill her and he misses Like when he's behind the couch and she's playing around with the fucking knitting needle, like a fucking moron.
Speaker: It. It just... And... The funny thing is... She gets them in a place where it. Should have fucking killed him. I mean, she gets them right in the fucking...
Speaker: Would that be the jugular? The jugglers on this. If not, if. not if Yeah. if If not... Well, on both sides. but And when.
Speaker: It... when he takes it out. Like, you don't even see any blood splitter, nothing. But then he falls down and she grabs the knife, holds the knife over the...
Speaker: Fucking couch like a fucking. like no you go over there and you fucking stab him more times like you go stabby stabby on his ass But no, she later... slumps down the couch and drops the fucking knife.
Speaker: And then she goes upstairs. And tells the kids like. i killed the boogeyman and well tommy doyle utters the famous line while he's climbing up the fucking stairs mind you because evidently no one can hear him climbing the stairs or moving around downstairs.
Speaker: Um. And... You hear Tommy Doyle utter, you can't kill a boogeyman. And then they scream because he's behind them. And so she locks them in the bathroom. and She goes into the fucking...
Speaker: the Must have been the master bedroom. And. She makes it look like she... Escapes. out down the terrace and... ah That's what they call that terrorists, right?
Speaker: Terrace or... second floor decking balcony balcony but she ends up going in the closet and doing all that shit. Michael isn't stupid. Like, he knows that bitch did not jump.
Speaker: that And so he. Fucking... opens up the thing. Well, meanwhile... Anise. Any part. that She would think that he's that dumb Erases because she's screaming now at the top of her fucking lungs that he's breaking down the goddamn easiest fucking door to break down of a closet. ever.
Speaker: especially in a suburban home like no you're you're making that shit out of oak or really strong wood. Right. But I mean, at the meantime, at the meantime.
Speaker: At the same time. That type of door. is in real life a very flimsy type of door so well it's particle board believe that i I think that's what it is. I think it's particle board.
Speaker: Because, yeah, like he punches through that shit like it's nothing. And no, like, you're a fucking rich family. Like, no, you're you're not buying flimsy fucking wood for...
Speaker: but For a closet. You're buying like the absolute. best. material for that closet. people. Um...
Speaker: Oh I mean... It just shows how gullible the fucking parents were. I mean, they allowed fucking Annie to almost go bring her boyfriend over to have sex in their house. like And then Bob and Linda do, and then they make a...
Speaker: which we'll talk about that comment soon, but... Yeah, and then Michael gets in the closet while she has taken a coat hanger. A wire coat hanger, by the way, but we Evidently didn't want to spend extra money on a fucking better door For a closet.
Speaker: But we'll buy wire hangers. and what get some in the eye. Well, when she gets him in the fucking eye, he drops the knife and she picks it up, stabs him. Well...
Speaker: Fucking Captain Dumbass of the SS Laurie Strode decides, I'm going to drop the knife again. Third time. Well, no, second time, by the way.
Speaker: And she sees him down and she thinks he's dead, blah blah blah. She gets the kids, tells them to go call the...
Speaker: goes down the street and call for help. Meanwhile... She is in a corner. Not looking at this motherfucker that survived a stab in the damn neck.
Speaker: And he. Slowly. Rises. Insert the music. And he she takes so fucking long to sit her ass back up.
Speaker: to walk away that he's already there. He decides to choke her, which by this point, if I'm Loomis, I... If I would have known all the shit that she went through and kept dropping that knife, I'd have let him kill her.
Speaker: I would've i'd have been fine with it i would have been like go ahead michael this is your kill i'll just wait until you're done And then when you're done, I'm going to fucking shoot you six times.
Speaker: But at the same time she at the same time, she was just a nervous teenager. so I don't fucking care. Knife is completely understandable, but at the same time I'm not that person. I...
Speaker: I'm gonna fight. as hell for my life. to Bullshit.
Speaker: I just might leave the knife in them though. Because. Well, and like... When she finally gets his masks. um Masks.
Speaker: mask off. Then she shoots, well, Loomis shoots him once, which I don't really think he hits him. the first time i think he fucking hit the wall
Speaker: Because Michael literally. puts the mask back on and all of a sudden just I think it jolted him back. But then Loomis... gets in the doorway shoots them supposedly five more times and Then Michael falls over the balcony and we see him.
Speaker: And then Lori utters. Was it the boogeyman or? It was the boogeyman. Everyone's divided on it. Honestly, I think it. I think what she is doing is she's asking.
Speaker: I think she's asking. if it was the boogeyman. And I don't care what people say. I think that's literally what it meant. but because someone in subtitling didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
Speaker: Mixed it up. So it didn't sound right. But then we get the best ending. Loomis looks over the balcony expecting to see Michael and Michael is gone.
Speaker: There ends the movie. So we see some wide shots of the house and we hear Michael breathing. But the movie is pretty much over. We get the credits. Go a fucking home. and Check the back here. fucking cars because he's probably in there.
Speaker: Right. but fence at the end. The one part I have a problem with and people of today's generation have latched on to is the whole.
Speaker: Well, let's rip Lindsay's clothes off. It's a fucking movie people. Get the fuck over it. Like, seriously? You have... Yeah.
Speaker: You'd think John Carpenter. put it in there. It's a throwaway fucking saying. Like I'm pretty sure John Carpenter wasn't openly. professing love for pedophilia at that point. Like, no.
Speaker: the The world has taken such a strange view on that scene that it's like, no. He was making a joke. And.
Speaker: It granted the joke was kind of fucked. I do agree with that. I will agree with that. But at the same time, like. It's a fucking joke, people. Let's get over it.
Speaker: So that's my rant on that. But. Do I still think Michael Myers is the king of horror? Ugh.
Speaker: Not slasher horror. I think Jason takes i i think jason takes slasher. But if it was a straight up like. Thriller. building suspense type movie.
Speaker: Then yes, I still think Michael is the king of horror. I think no matter what. you can't have one without the other. If there's no Michael, there's no Jason.
Speaker: I don't care what anyone says Um, So, I mean, yeah, I still think Michael is the king of horror, but... If we're going off kills... ah It's Jason every day.
Speaker: Huh? Because, I mean, that motherfucker would grab a garden shovel and use it.
Speaker: Where Michael... be used. of Where Michael just literally, he uses a butcher knife. That was his weapon of choice until the later movies when...
Speaker: You know, they wanted to one up what Friday the 13th and every other one was doing. Great. So it's I still consider Michael to be the king of horror.
Speaker: but at the same time like i said i think it's a tie with him and jason and i I... I think in the kills aspect, I think you got to give it to Jason.
Speaker: And I do want to do ah an episode where we go more in depth of. Michael versus Jason. Bye. I still agree with Michael being the king of horror.
Speaker: I do. I think. It was revolutionary what they did with the movie. And had they not had the music, I think the movie would have sucked.
Speaker: Bye. The music just adds a whole... whole other degree to the movie. For sure. Well, when John Carpenter first Showed. people the movie without the music like they said this movie sucks and then when you He had to create that song. Sound.
Speaker: And he did it on a piano or I think he did it like on bongos or a piano. Using like. some time signature or whatever for it.
Speaker: And. I really do believe that John Carpenter. Had. He not did what he did with Halloween 2, which was the whole fucking sister, brother, cousin, uncle fucking idea.
Speaker: I think. Halloween. Should have been a standalone film. I really do I don't think it needs a sequel right away. I think they could have waited. a decade or a few years.
Speaker: Then did a sequel or. you know. What if they would have waited until the Blumhouse trilogy and that's the first sequel? like I'd have been okay with that. Alright. And that that's where...
Speaker: It really differs between the 78 version and the Blumhouse versions. And that the Blumhouse versions definitely.
Speaker: It... it didn't Take away the story building. But it. It helped with the tempo. it It jumped into the action a little bit quicker than what.
Speaker: The 78 version did. Yeah. So I. Those versions definitely grabbed my attention much quicker. Well, I mean, yeah, you know it
Speaker: Granted. i I'm hearing rumors of this new Halloween film for the 50th anniversary. Supposedly John Carpenter is coming back to direct one more. I would really love to see that.
Speaker: Um... Yeah, it'd be cool and I think it would be ah No holds barred. Yeah. type movie be just because it just is the Anniversary.
Speaker: Just don't bring back Lori. Don't bring the brother, sister, cousin, uncle. next door neighbor's son angle either. Like, just have it be Michael being Michael.
Speaker: That's all you need to do. Um... But what is what is your thought, Alyssa? Do you still think Michael Myers is the king of horror, or do you think he's been passed?
Speaker: I think he still reigns supreme. in my opinion as well. And.
Speaker: Because if if if you think about it...
Speaker: when when people are getting ready to dress up for Halloween and they want to dress up as a A whore icon. what what What is the first horror icon that comes to most people's minds?
Speaker: It typically isn't Jason. It typically isn't... Um, Freddie, it. It typically is Michael. So I think that. Says a lot.
Speaker: Right there. But then as well, like you said. So many other. horror. movies, characters.
Speaker: are kind of just a roll -off. from Michael.
Speaker: And... So that speaks volumes for... Him.
Speaker: And I think. the characters that were kind of... a spinoff from Michael.
Speaker: They... They would lose their meaning if Michael lost his meaning. If that makes sense. Well yeah. Um...
Speaker: But ah you know I think there's also more debate on this. and And I would love to go down that road. with like maybe more people. I think that'd be like a great round table discussion.
Speaker: ah Oh. 100 percent. But... We would be remissed. If we didn't announce. the Biggest thing that's coming to this show. Bum, bum, bum.
Speaker: And, you know, I'm going to announce that Alyssa is going to announce what's going to happen. So Alyssa, what's going to happen on the show? Well...
Speaker: We have a special guest coming on the show.
Speaker: Okay, and? So... It's not gonna be hard Normal night. But. on Sunday.
Speaker: We are going to be hosting Jason. Brooks. The Jason Brooks. And also...
Speaker: it will be at 3 p .m central standard time which with Daylight savings happening. tomorrow night. That's going to be interesting. um But yes, Jason Brooks, if you don't know who Jason Brooks is, he was in Vengeance. Part one and two. and also had help In.
Speaker: the death of Snow White. He has done many. multiple projects. Great guy. Had him on the podcast back when this was the Jarvis podcast with Mark Bensett.
Speaker: And. We cannot wait for that interview. So remember, come check us out Sunday at 3 p .m. Central Standard Time for that interview. We are so appreciative of Jason.
Speaker: Brooks, and we cannot wait for that. Um, Go ahead, Alyssa. Great fun time. With. with it. N. come learn about his his work because at the end of the day we want to We want to support as many people as we can. on on this podcast and um So.
Speaker: supporting um
Speaker: supporting people that have creative ideas. Um... And are also very. Pop culture related. are some of the things you will see on the podcast.
Speaker: Yes, we will talk about video games, talk about TV. talk about music, but right now we are focusing on interviews. with people from all different genres.
Speaker: All we say is that if you want to be a guest on the show or you want us to guest on your show. We do not do political stuff. It's just who we are. And that's that.
Speaker: we We just want to. remain a a fun environment for. For everybody. For everybody. not just one particular group. So. Yeah.
Speaker: um I'm Steven Jarvis.
Speaker: I forgot my name. Oh yeah, I'm Melissa Jarvis. We are the Certified Jarvis. We will see you Sunday. Also, don't forget to go check out Horror and Report. with Kyle Curtis -Flett.
Speaker: Great guy. Check out Talking Shit with Mark and Brian. Um. They have... someone going on the show like they do every time. You're chaos 24 -7.
Speaker: And eventually, hopefully they'll come on our show because, you know. I think. the certified jarvis podcast was kind of inspired by talking shit because let's be honest we can get down and boogie with them any day of the and we'll just break the internet that night Yeah. no um But yes, check us out Sunday for the Jason Brooks interview. that will be live 3 p .m central standard time here on the Certified Jarvis Podcast.
Speaker: and also Go check out. you know the replays We cannot believe that we're almost to 400 plays on Zencaster. We are. over 3 ,500 views on the YouTube channel We cannot.
Speaker: Thank you all enough. for watching us, sharing us. telling people about us, wanting us in you. Wait, that's weird. yeah um But you know what?
Speaker: We are the Certified Jarvis Podcast. And your support. us Yeah, though your support means. More than we could ever say. it It is truly. ah humbling experience that so many people will watch us just be fucking goofballs.
Speaker: Um, And.
Speaker: Happily married. Question is certified. See you all Sunday.
