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Speaker: hello everyone and Welcome back to another amazing episode of the Certified Jarvis Podcast. I'm Steven Jarvis, and with me, as always, is my wifey. Oh, it's a Travis.
Speaker: And today we are talking about. forgotten horror movies that are actually amazing. um And, you know. We would be remiss if we didn't say. Thank you. to everyone that's Somehow... gotten us to like 2 ,500 views.
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Speaker: YouTube, whatever. And you will see this. You can even go on Zencaster and find us. but today like we said we are talking about forgotten horror movies that are actually amazing And. I think we'd be remiss if we didn't start off with. one of the horror movies that kind of started off a genre.
Speaker: that would later birth Halloween. Scream. Nightmare on Elm Street. Friday the 13th. And many, many more. And that is. Black. Christmas.
Speaker: Black Christmas is... about a sorority. That's being killed off one by one. by an unseen killer. And I think it's one of the very first.
Speaker: known. attempts. at marketing of Um... The whole so -called horror slasher genre.
Speaker: Um... we We never really do see the guy. I mean, we see his eyes. That's about it. And plus, let's be honest, he calls more worse. he He calls more than...
Speaker: Your local. YMCA about your memberships going bad. or Or what about... ah your extended car warranty I think he even. Calls more than them.
Speaker: Heh.
Speaker: Who is this? Uh. Jake? From State Farm. Yeah. so Well.
Speaker: This obscene collar sounds hideous. Well, it's a guy so... Um, And we kind of hear from the calls.
Speaker: the killer's name, which is Billy. um The remake would later go into more specifics. but with the original. You had a very well -rounded cast. You had Margaret Kidder, who would later go on to such amazing work. as the Amityville Horror.
Speaker: The Superman movies, the original ones, the better ones. um I'm going to get a hate in the comments for that. Um... and many many more. So Alyssa, what were your first thoughts on Black Christmas?
Speaker: My first thoughts was...
Speaker: In the beginning I felt like it moved a little bit on the slower side. For. ah horror genre movie. But then it really did. pick up about.
Speaker: I don't know Maybe.
Speaker: a quarter to half ways in to the movie. And that's when it kind of grabbed my attention a little bit more. um But you really have to get through that very first portion of it.
Speaker: And that can be a struggle for some people. Well, I mean, definitely. um The kills in that movie are amazing. um When he... Literally.
Speaker: hit The first kill. that we see is he literally wraps up. plastic bag around someone's mouth and head and suffocates them.
Speaker: Later bringing them up into the attic. in a rocking chair. Um... which was funny because that is the The picture on the movie poster.
Speaker: Another thing that really, really was a great kill. was the unicorn scene. where he literally just goes off. a Margaret Kidder's character.
Speaker: And, you know, it's... It's stuff like that that later inspired John Carpenter. to make Halloween. It's stuff like that that later even probably inspired Sean Cunningham to cry the 13th.
Speaker: Um.
Speaker: it Such a great movie for its time. that I feel remiss when people. kind of skip over it because Let's be honest. We all love Halloween. We all love Friday. We all love...
Speaker: you know, Um... Nightmare on Elm Street. We all love Child's Play. We all love Scream. Some of us love Terrifier. We're not those. people. Um,
Speaker: it And. Some of us love the Hatchet movies. But... I think. when they made this movie, which...
Speaker: The director of this movie would later say, um, That he had a sequel idea. but it would be about a bunch of babysitters. and people get remiss that they think that John Carpenter stole Halloween.
Speaker: From. the director of Black Christmas, but that's not true. um Both had the same idea. Just... very much different. And...
Speaker: I think with this movie... Okay. It helped. the whole genre around. holidays. And I think it kind of... spoiled it for a lot of us because we would later get movies such as my bloody valentine which we will talk about later um friday 13th of course April Fool's Day.
Speaker: There's a Thanksgiving one nowadays. um I think there's an Easter one, too. Maybe, possibly. um But that's the thing. This movie doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
Speaker: because i think at that time in hollywood they were still trying to figure out how to market this You know, we we had the... the British Hammer movies, which were considered horror back then, which... are today aren't very scary. I mean, they relied heavily on gore with Dracula and all that, but still. it's not as scary as what our parents probably thought it was.
Speaker: Right. Another. forgotten horror movie. is My Bloody Valentine. Um, It's a cult classic. but back in its heyday. Another Canadian horror movie, which was. Unfairly.
Speaker: treated like garbage. um It talks about the story. Of.
Speaker: What's the name of that town in that movie? It's been so long since I freaking watched it and I love this movie. um ah I'm blinking on it too.
Speaker: Valentine's bluff, I think. Out. quick look that up. But anyway, you know it it had the premise of a killer Going after people on Valentine's Day.
Speaker: and that person being a minor. you know, in a minor outfit and all that which made it so cool. I, to this day...
Speaker: Still think. that we needed. The mining town of Valentine's Bluff. is what it's called. um I think we need more. of The minor.
Speaker: killer. I think My Bloody Valentine should have been a franchise. There was talks about... a sequel back in the day. um Never really panned out. We got a remake.
Speaker: Which? was what it was. Um, The sad thing is... Blumhouse now owns it. Supposedly there's a movie coming out. They want to make it. into a franchise but at the same time There's been no news. sense. I think 24.
Speaker: 20 now 2014 2024, 2025. And that's the last time we ever got any updates on. My Bloody Valentine coming back.
Speaker: Hopefully. b Blumhouse will do the right thing and keep. trying to make the film because I think My Bloody Valentine deserves its flowers. Um... Great. great cast.
Speaker: Um... keep Somehow. Go ahead Sir. Do you fear, though, that if they do make a And... A sequel. Do you?
Speaker: that it's too too late at this point. Well, no. I don't think they will make a sequel. I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna start off from scratch. They're gonna go with the first movie.
Speaker: And you have to. It's been so long. like I mean, the remake was, I think... Early. Late 20... 10s maybe.
Speaker: So it's like you... you you have from the 80s when it first came out. to... Three make. to now. If I was Blumhouse, I would just...
Speaker: i I would keep it the way it was. with Harry Warden being the the killer. even though we find out in the original.
Speaker: it Harry Warden had passed away. And Axel had kind of taken on that role. And... Which I hated. i I really wanted to see the Harry Warden character. I didn't want to see a copycat. I felt like that had been done to death in other movies before.
Speaker: so it just It was one of those things where it was just. It it was such a stupid ending. Um, Of course, Axel doesn't die. He just loses his arm, and then...
Speaker: um A fan film. Actually. kind of played as a legacy sequel. where at the end of it you see Axel. but because the actor who played tj it has sadly you know passed away um It sucks because I think TJ was such an underrated hero.
Speaker: In that movie. Because you didn't know in the original. if it was axel or if it was tj because tj and axel wanted the same woman Well, what better way than to do it that way?
Speaker: Um, But yeah, my buddy Valentine isn't talked enough. It wasn't talked enough back then because, you know, evidently American filmmakers back in the day thought that Canadian films weren't that marketable.
Speaker: I mean, they did the same thing with the a Australians too, but you know, this was. Um... Which brings me to our next one, and that is road games. Another Jamie Lee Curtis horror movie this time taking place.
Speaker: in Australia. Um... Stacy Keech. No. I don't think it's Stacy Keach. I think it was his brother. that.
Speaker: plays the hero in this you know Alyssa you can talk
Speaker: I know. Oh. I was waiting for you to finish yours. Your thoughts? Oh, it was Stacey Keech. Okay. Um... Stacy Keach in the movie is a trucker who later happens upon a guy who's killing women.
Speaker: and literally dumping them all around Australia's outback. Where he would later run into. Jamie Lee Curtis. which you know every horror movie back in the day had to have her the And I love Jamie Lee Curtis, but after a while, it it got old.
Speaker: wait we We got it. We got it. She was the very... very first scream queen but at the same time it just Okay. It's like we get it. Hollywood, we got it.
Speaker: Right. she She found her niche in. horror. And yet she hated it. And that just doesn't make sense to me. Why? why
Speaker: That's why. well i think I think she was afraid that if she kept doing Halloween movies, she was going to get typecast as Laurie Strode. And and Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker: Yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis deserves her flowers. She is a very talented actress. don't really care for her politics. for the Activia. Um... But, you know... I still think she deserves her flowers.
Speaker: um Honestly. I don't think she should have ever came back for. the Blumhouse Halloween trilogy, I think she should have stayed away. um But money talks. and you know what that whatever.
Speaker: else happens with that. Um. But... Her and Road Games, I felt, was such a departure. from How she played it in Halloween.
Speaker: like She still wanted to find out who the killer was. But she kind of played it in the way of... damsel in distress. She allows herself to get caught in the movie.
Speaker: And then Stacy Keach's character has to find her. and hope that she isn't dead. Right. i think I think she still had a bit of damsel in distress, though, in Halloween.
Speaker: Oh, 100%. Wow. think she She has always kind of had that character of damsel in distress. It's just a matter of.
Speaker: How much? of a damsel in distress she's portraying. Well, yeah, and and I mean... It's not over the top.
Speaker: Like I think it was in Halloween. Right. You know... Um...
Speaker: I know I'll get in trouble for this, but I i think. Chris. from Um. Black Christmas. was a way better character than Laurie Strode ever was.
Speaker: It's just. Halloween. had gotten so much more support. Then Black Christmas did. Then Texas Chainsaw Massacre did. like And I've talked with Mark from Talking Shit. about this many times. in private where it's like Could you imagine had - Someone had the wherewithal to really market Black Christmas or Texas Chainsaw Massacre the way that Halloween was.
Speaker: Like if that happens. Halloween isn't the first. and I I think it's kind of subjective to say it is the first.
Speaker: I mean, we all know that it is the very most successful. as it was back then. very successful. Um... Kind of got more people talking than maybe Black Christmas or Text Chainsaw Massacre did.
Speaker: but At the same time. I think. There were other movies. that could have won that crown. had they had. the machine behind it.
Speaker: Great. Um... Texas Chainsaw Massacre was pretty much just a... drive -in movie. That's what they wanted to do. Um...
Speaker: And like I said with Black Christmas, it's it was another one of those, well, it's Canadian. we It's not going to be good. And I felt that such a...
Speaker: Stupid thing to say. I think it's the stupidest thing. that Hollywood had against Canadian cinema and even Australian cinema.
Speaker: Um. It was different. it was different filmmaking and I think Hollywood couldn't grasp it because It just... Didn't make sense to them.
Speaker: But it made sense to us. Great. The immortal words of... Marty McFly. Maybe you're not ready for it, but your kids will love it.
Speaker: And i think I think that's what happened with horror. You know, like our parents watched it. It was like, oh, hey, you know, this is cool. Scared them. But then when we watched it, it they became all classics.
Speaker: Right. Um... And, you know. Another one. Slumber Party Massacre.
Speaker: Which? so We can talk about two, but... Let's be honest, the first one was better. it speaking Um... The first Slumber Party Massacre has a guy with a...
Speaker: Drill. Hmm. He likes to drill them hard.
Speaker: but um the premises again. Same thing like Halloween and all the other ones. But... I think the...
Speaker: I think it's another one of those really stronger. female. hero types. that we had kind of started getting oversaturated with.
Speaker: but yet still very, very... in demand. at that point
Speaker: And then came Slumber Party Massacre 2. Where... A guy with a guitar. Literally comes out of people's dreams and kills them. Yes, because ripping off Nightmare on Elm Street with the guy in a fucking denim rock and roll.
Speaker: Black leather jacket. was gonna sell. And that just seems like it's... Not even really like a.
Speaker: A sequel at that point. It just seems like it's a completely different storyline. when you
Speaker: change things up that drastically. If that makes sense. Oh, 100%. I mean... You go from... And... I will be of the opinion I don't think it ever needed a sequel. A lot of movies.
Speaker: that were that good. Didn't need them. Um. I've always said that about Halloween. If they never would have made. the sequels Who knows what could have come of the... of it.
Speaker: I think it would have been a lot better. And I'm... a person that will Die hard defend Halloween. but I think the sequels killed it. And that's what happened with...
Speaker: Um... With that of slumber party massacre is that it just Again, Hollywood had found a niche. And... was was teenagers getting killed.
Speaker: and it literally was like oh hey you know it slumber party let's do it i feel like hollywood was in an office. with a dart board. and literally just throwing darts at the board And whatever so landed, like...
Speaker: But I want to be a part of that. like thought process that was like oh yeah we need to make a sequel to this and you know what we'll fucking have a guy come out of a the boyfriend's body.
Speaker: and have a guitar. with a drill on it. Meanwhile, He's trying to kill someone, and he doesn't. a ah fucking song number I want to know how high the person was to even come up with that concept.
Speaker: Yeah, like I, yeah. I hate you. Yeah. you You have to be tripping. Pretty strong acid.
Speaker: Oh, 100%. Like.
Speaker: Like I want to know the fucking process of that though. like you're sitting there literally saying hey this has never been done before let's put a drill on a fucking guitar oh and while the bitch is running away you know what we're gonna do We're going to have them dancing in the hallway, singing a fucking song.
Speaker: And then he's finally going to get to her after you know she could have gotten up and fucking ran away. 500 fucking times.
Speaker: But I digress. I feel like that Every horror movie, every. Yep. edward Oh my god. in English, Alyssa. every horror movie ever is you always look at the victim and it's like All right. I want to fan away about. 3 000 times over but You're just...
Speaker: Crouching down that corner. Trying to. Feeling at it. And you're about to get your ass whooped. It's kind of like in a scary movie. What's the last thing you said to the victim? Run, bitch, run! Yeah.
Speaker: God. Yeah. And... Um... Yeah. Slumber Party Massacre 2 was just... it, it It was another movie that didn't need to be made.
Speaker: first and foremost. um
Speaker: Our next movie we're going to discuss is... The hills have eyes. Not the remakes, because god awful, that's just... someone sitting there going like oh hey we need to have more rape scenes in this
Speaker: Which grand the first one? did have that the original one did have that but it Back in them days, it wasn't all. blatant like it is now. Um,
Speaker: The concept of a family that goes out in the middle of nowhere in the desert and are tracked by... cannibalistic mutant killers. um It was a great premise. Again, West Craven.
Speaker: Like, there's people out there that literally will be like, hey, no, Wes Craven's... better than John Carpenter. I... I'd say it's 1 -1A.
Speaker: I think. John Carpenter will always be the king of horror. But... Wes Craven's right up there with him. Scream. Last house on the left.
Speaker: The hills have eyes. Um, Nightmare on Elm Street. And... granted if he was still alive today who knows he could have introduced us to a new one I mean, that guy was creating new franchises like it was going out of fucking style.
Speaker: And with the hills have eyes. It was different. again. you know, and How many people in there? Right mind.
Speaker: Go out. End. literally say hey you know let's go out to the desert and we'll we'll we'll get trapped by mutant cannibals. and then have to fight him off.
Speaker: Right. it's It's another one of those movies that... Honestly. Got forgotten with time. I don't care what anyone says it did it It did.
Speaker: And. Granted, thank God for video stores that literally were like, hey, you know. Here's this movie. Watch it.
Speaker: I need to do a podcast episode on video stores. Yes. I think that would be a... great one for like a round table discussion.
Speaker: Oh, 100%. Um... Coming soon. Good. Once I, you know... You too. Yeah. Once I get more people on.
Speaker: Um... But, you know, I think what the hills have eyes again. different concept by Wes Craven. And. He literally does lean into that fear of...
Speaker: You're out in the middle of nowhere in the desert. You don't know what's going on out there. You hear noises. you He takes all the... the horror tropes. But yet. infuses them into something new at the time.
Speaker: And yes, this one would have sequels too. The second one. was Okay. The third one was not even called The Hills Have Eyes. It was just called Mind Ripper.
Speaker: Um... So, yeah. at that point How can you even call it a sequel? Yeah. I don't know. It's still... bears the title the hills have eyes part three I think it does now. I'm not sure I haven't seen it.
Speaker: The first two were good. well the first one was a classic the second one was kind of like that sequel that was like Well, we'll test our waters with it and see what happens. And it's not bad.
Speaker: It's just, again, one of those things where I was like. Do we really need a sequel? You know. Eh. It just, yeah.
Speaker: I mean... So many people will say Nightmare on Elm Street Part 1 was the best. And other people will say... Part two was the best. I mean, we you got a more demonic... scary Freddy in the second one.
Speaker: Where in the first one, it was just like. Here's Freddy. Um. Do you have any? forgotten horror movies that are actually amazing, Alyssa.
Speaker: moving
Speaker: uh and horror movies
Speaker: See I'm I'm still really new to the horror. movie Um. John. So. Most of the horror movies that I have seen have been...
Speaker: More of like the. mainstream. or movies. Oh. So I... i don't know that any of mine would necessarily be.
Speaker: Considered.
Speaker: Underrated. Forgotten. If that makes sense. Well... I have another one for you. And that's another Jamie Lee Curtis one. Called Paratrain.
Speaker: Because yes. Hollywood wasn't even trying anymore.
Speaker: It's set on a train and there's a killer with one of the Marx Brothers masks on. And that's all you need to know about that one, folks. And Jamie Lee Curtis is in it.
Speaker: Um... Again. One of those movies where Jamie Lee Curtis, even though she hates the genre, was like, hey, I gotta make... I gotta make this money. And she did.
Speaker: She did. Um... And yeah, that's tear train for you. um it's Better to be forgotten. Um... There are some really good.
Speaker: movies, That. I think people will be like, well, that isn't forgotten. And one of them is called the car.
Speaker: I think it's... A great, great movie. um came out before Christine. And... I think what made it.
Speaker: the best is just Bye. You never see who the driver is. Right. And it's not a semi this time. It's just a demonic car.
Speaker: Right. Then. I think that's really what grabs your attention in that movie is just never knowing.
Speaker: Who? is behind the car. Yeah. Or who is driving.
Speaker: And like... You never know when it's going to show up. Right. until it's too late. Like, when when she runs into the... your life about.
Speaker: Five minutes ago. Yeah. like when uh The sheriff's girlfriend is like calls him and says, I think I can hear the car. And you could just hear it the horn. and it Runs through the house And it's, it it's.
Speaker: It's movies like that. that always was cool, especially the The... Like...
Speaker: the The car itself. is a classic. Um... And. We would... Later. get other car movies like this um you would have christine you would have Fuck.
Speaker: And I, and I think. bill those are a forgotten movie as well. to an extent Yes and no. um Another John Carpenter classic.
Speaker: It's just... I think what happened with John Carpenter. is that he shits so much on the establishment in Hollywood that any time after Halloween.
Speaker: Hollywood Stuck it up his ass. And that's sad because, I mean, he did direct a lot of good movies. outside of Halloween. Um...
Speaker: I escaped from New York. The thing. Christine. Big trouble in little China. which is a comedy and not what we're talking about right now, but... I mean...
Speaker: I think... And that even later happened with Wes Craven. I mean, he made Scream as a... shitting on the horror genre and all that. that he helped create.
Speaker: Imagine that. Um... It's just... The sad thing about the car is... Unless... You knew someone that...
Speaker: watched it or watch it on YouTube or which is the edited version. Because God forbid, oh my God, there was a noted sadist who comes up with a quote in the beginning of the movie. It's like, oh, please.
Speaker: Um. And... I still think the car. deserves its flowers. I think. James Brolin.
Speaker: was a hell of a great choice as the sheriff in the movie. Um... A lot of the kills are top notch. for a car that just runs into people.
Speaker: Um... My favorite scene I think is probably the scene where it shows up when they're doing the parade. And it.
Speaker: puts him in the cemetery but when they find out that he can't touch holy ground is It's pretty smart. Um... Yeah. You know, if Josh Brolin or James Brolin would have been smart, he would have just drove his fucking motorcycle into a cemetery and then that would have been it.
Speaker: but you know when It did. We'll be at that point then. yeah When? He goes into... The Garage.
Speaker: And... to get on his dirt bike to lead the to find the car to lead it into a trap and it's in the It's in the garage.
Speaker: And it's trying to... trying to kill him. by suffocating them in the smoke. While he gets out of there. And. The cars.
Speaker: On his ass. class. The whole way. and then when they finally destroy the car then Fire comes out and you see like this. the devil or whatever.
Speaker: they want to call it. The demon. And... you know i hated that part i think they should just left it alone as well what was driving the car um Great.
Speaker: but Another one that I think. It doesn't get. the amount of talking about and it was a tv movie back in the day and that's dual This is Before Jaws.
Speaker: This is before Steven Spielberg hits it out of the park with movies. um like et and Close Encounters, Jaws. and fucking every other movie he's made.
Speaker: Um, It's one of those things where...
Speaker: He literally... takes a semi. And unleashes it. on Dennis Weaver. and his character.
Speaker: I feel like. Duel. was one of those movies that again, You blink and you miss it. Type. TV movie back in the day.
Speaker: and It took me so long to figure out that it was a TV movie, but like I remember when we would go to Walmart. in sancre falls Not the Walmart where it is now, but where that movie theater is. That used to be the old Walmart.
Speaker: End. Um... In the bargain bin one time. Keith had picked out I want to say it was one of the fast and furious movies, but my dad picked out Duel.
Speaker: And... My dad and I. always have had the same love for car movies. I mean. He showed me bullet. vanishing point. Um.
Speaker: This was kind of my vanishing point. because it's there's not a lot of story in Duel. It's just.
Speaker: Whatever pissed off this guy or whatever in the semi truck is. is. it Yeah. And... It would later inspire Jaws.
Speaker: As we all know. Um, It's just the one thing that I love is the mo there's no motive of why or whoever's in the semi is going after this car salesman or insurance sale he's some type of salesman And, um...
Speaker: I mean, this guy is just relaxing and all of a sudden... and He's in a life and death situation. um One of the... best scenes. is when he thinks he's getting away and all of a sudden the radiator Hose goes out.
Speaker: And he's just freaking out. He's freaking out because the semi is now coming. and he can't he can't get away like he was like he was getting away and all sudden just Bam!
Speaker: Right. And I think. Something goes wrong. And I think that's why that scene works so well. Because... It is still plausible. Yeah.
Speaker: And... I really think. That's where horror movies... Either make it or don't. Well, yeah, I mean you of Could that really actually happen in real life? or is that just so far -fetched that it really wouldn't happen or would have...
Speaker: such a slim chance of happening that Hellwood, basically. freeze over. Yeah, I mean... Just... And Dennis Weaver.
Speaker: One of the greatest. Choices. for Um... Dennis Mann. in this movie. And that, I mean, he thinks he's getting away and all of a sudden that damn radiator hose, which they've told them many times in the movie, you might want to replace it.
Speaker: And he's like, oh, I'll do it later. I'll do it later. And then. when it goes. and the amount of tension in his face like he's seeing it. And he's like,
Speaker: There it is! There it is! There it is! And like. He's literally saying, come on, come on, you stupid car. And when he crashes in...
Speaker: to the embankment there. And all of a sudden, the semi is barreling towards him, and it finally re -kicks up. And goes.
Speaker: and then the semi just comes up behind it leading up to the climax of him getting out of the vehicle and smashing it into the truck and then the truck goes over the cliff with the car and dumbass Shouldn't have done that, but you know.
Speaker: He had to do what he had to do to get out of that fucking situation. Right. um It's literally such an easy story that It shocked me that people didn't realize that Duel and Jaws could have...
Speaker: could have the same story. It's just one's in the water and the other one's on Dry land. Right. Um... i Go ahead.
Speaker: ah Another movie that... Could be considered. forgotten. Jeepers Creepers. Yeah, but that's for...
Speaker: Dumb reasons. People... people it And I've seen this debate go on. other podcasts. Should we... Should we be celebrating a horror franchise that had a fucking molester as the creator and director?
Speaker: Yes, you can still do that. even though the director and the creator of the franchise was a piece of shit. you're Right. at At some point you need to separate.
Speaker: the The creator... And victor's Victor Silver does not own Jeepers Creepers anymore.
Speaker: But God. Damn, did they fuck up that franchise after two. Yeah, it did. it did have a steady
Speaker: I mean... Jeepers Creepers Reborn what the fuck were you thinking like? if This dude only has one day every 23 years to come back and somehow he's mastered.
Speaker: having remote -controlled fucking car. That. Like, yeah, no, that that was so fucking stupid. The original one.
Speaker: I love how... He comes up behind him in that. Fucking horn. There.
Speaker: It's just like. Good God. that's that's the kind of dude that you just flip off dude And you know, the funny thing is. This movie's actually based off of an episode of, um...
Speaker: Unsolved Mysteries That actually happened. Oh really? I didn't know that. A couple were passed by. a a guy in a van i want to say not a not a medical van like the one in fucking jeepers creepers but i think it was a regular van while they came across them changing license plates or so no he was dumping Um... a body into something while he's seen these people driving by
Speaker: and chased after him well eventually he went around them and was found to be changing license plates. And they later, I think, caught the guy or the guy. like he knew he was caught so he committed suicide but he ended up killing his wife and shit and a lot of people drew what happened to that couple and that.
Speaker: Ciao. to the movie. Hmm. But yeah, that that fucking car horn. Oh, I had nightmares of that car horn.
Speaker: I swear to God, if I'm ever... Like, on a... deserted road. At night. And I hear. er er And I see it and it's a fucking.
Speaker: old medic van. ah Dude, I'm fucking getting the fuck off that road. I'm getting off that fucking road. Um... But yeah, Jeepers Creepers, the first one was...
Speaker: really good. I felt the Second one was better. Just because they they... They brought more into it. Right.
Speaker: Um... End. You know I love the scene and the of the bus scene in the second one where he's picking out his victims.
Speaker: And he's like this. Hmph. And he sees the one black one because. supposedly the one black guy on the bus is so afraid. Well, there's more, but...
Speaker: This one frayed guy. and it just Get some fucking just... the creeper just orgasms over how scared this guy is. And it's just like, Jesus Christ.
Speaker: but um Yeah, Jeepers Creepers, definitely. definitely forgotten and it's sad why it really is but you know people Fucking morons.
Speaker: um Another one. And I think Alyssa would... probably roll her eyes about. this but I have to go with The Town That Dreaded Sundown.
Speaker: based on a true story. That happened in on the border of Texas and Arkansas, or the Texarkana. border. Um, The guy was never caught.
Speaker: And. They did take liberties with the movie, of course. but A lot of the story is good. And the ending is what really killed me is that.
Speaker: even though they never Got close to the guy Like. They made the ending where they shoot him. in the leg. And he escapes.
Speaker: But... they made it seem like they were fucking close and they were never close like this guy was The zodiac killer before the zodiac killer And.
Speaker: The town that dreads sundown was such a - great underrated fucking movie. that when I showed it to Alyssa, like... And. The only scene that Alyssa couldn't watch was the trombone scene.
Speaker: where he Where he hooks up the knife to the trombone because he figures out he could fucking stab her with it. And it's just like. it's such a stupid scene, but at the same time, like, what a fucking kill.
Speaker: Right. Look. Yeah, that one was that. Yeah. I'm speechless on that one. And, uh... Oh. I know Alyssa is really going to hate this one.
Speaker: But... It's a movie that was actually made. Just for the express permission to fucking capture a really live... serial killer in San Francisco. And that is.
Speaker: The Zodiac Killer. This movie is so fucking bad, it's good. and when i showed this to alissa she literally sat there looking at me going like what the fuck Are you we watching?
Speaker: Um, It's such a stupid whodunit movie. that by the time they reveal who the killer is it's just like why fucking bother Um...
Speaker: The kills are in no way what really happened. the the The filmmakers even. Boasted. That.
Speaker: Uh... They only made the movie because they wanted to catch the Zodiac Killer. Um... At the movie theater, they handed out people. paces of paper for people to be like, hey.
Speaker: This is who they felt the Zodiac was and who why he was killing people. And supposedly someone had wrote on a piece of paper, I'm the Zodiac. well Little did we know... is that in that theater in key locations they actually had handwriting analysis people there in case the zodiac actually showed up as if the zodiac killer was that fucking stupid Right.
Speaker: And... supposedly The Zodiac Killer was there because he wrote on a piece of paper. I'm the Zodiac and I was here. Like how many fucking people in that movie theater could have done it?
Speaker: like just sat there and said, I'm going to write this and quick. Put it in the fucking thing and no one will notice. how How many people are... just trying to get attention.
Speaker: Yeah. Is what that. Have to. And... Yeah, this movie was not made to... Be any good. It was just made to catch the fucker.
Speaker: And that's what the director wanted. And that's why the movie is such a convoluted mess. that I think my wife wanted to, it was like, did I just take drugs?
Speaker: It was kind of like... ah Malignant. For Alyssa.
Speaker: You know... Understanding malignant, malignant. was hard for you to understand. No, I was saying that The Zodiac Killer movie was your... was Kind of like Malignant malignant was to me.
Speaker: It was such a mindfuck of a movie that you couldn't understand it. Yeah, I okay. Yeah, I get what you're saying now But you know um Yeah, and the voiceovers from the killer in the movie of the Zodiac Killer are so fucking out there. It's just, yeah.
Speaker: Hey. I do have to say. that the Zodiac. was much easier to understand than any Quentin Tarantino movie will ever be.
Speaker: But here's the thing, you barely watch them. They're easy to understand. And. the off
Speaker: Okay, Nikki from Obsession. Um, but you know and that's the thing with But. the zodiac killer it's one of those movies that you literally watch it once or twice They literally made the motherfucker. so they literally tried to explain why he killed and they put it as he was a Satanist.
Speaker: And when they reveal that in the movie, it's just like, really? We're grasping at straws here with this now. Like. Do I believe the real Zodiac Killer was a Satanist? No.
Speaker: Do I think he was smart? Fuck yeah. Do I think if he would have kept doing it? he would have Eventually been caught. Yes. He was getting sloppy.
Speaker: And I think that's why he stopped. It was because he knew. He was getting sloppy. Right. Um...
Speaker: And. Yeah. it Yeah. Ed. Dead. do yourself a favor if you ever want to watch a stupid fucking movie based on the zodiac killer watch the zodiac killer It literally...
Speaker: like True. Okay. At the remake. Yes, well... Good. The one that you're thinking of is just called Zodiac. The one with... Robert Downey. jake gyllenhaal and mark ru ruffalo yeah that's just called zodiac Right. um And that one.
Speaker: It was. Badass like I was very. I loved how they took their time with it and they really did this story justice.
Speaker: Right. The only thing is, is that I like so many other people I don't know. I think if it was Arthur Lee Allen.
Speaker: Bye now. they would have found so much on him to charge him even though he's been long, long, long past dead now. um I still and People hate me for saying this. I still think it was a cop.
Speaker: Um... You just... Yeah. I just. In that day and age, in the 70s. Yes, we didn't have fingerprint.
Speaker: as much as we do now but I think Eventually. and Which, granted the Zodiac is long dead. I... or in a fucking nursing home somewhere.
Speaker: On deaths were bad. Like. I've always said this. Even if they found out who it was and it's some old geezer in the fucking nursing home clenching to one last bit of fucking life what What are you going to do? You're going to parade them in front of everyone and say, well, you finally fucking found them.
Speaker: Alright. like it I just I don't think they would. um It's... Yeah.
Speaker: I think it at this point in time, if they ever found out who really did it. They would just come out and say, hey, we now know who he is. Yada, yada, yada.
Speaker: Um... And that's the end of it. I think is what would happen. with yeah it It... it would It would still give. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Of the victims. Some sort of. closure at the end of the day The family members at this point would be a little more removed, but. Okay.
Speaker: It's still affected. their faith. In some. way shape form. So closure is always. always going to be needed.
Speaker: If that makes sense. Hmm, it's kind of like something we talked about when we talked about Friday the 13th last week. And Alyssa. And Alyssa kind of just...
Speaker: diminished Pamela's story. Hehehehe. I'm sorry. Pamela's a bitch.
Speaker: Linda Cardellini, though, in that show was so fucking hot. Huh? huh She's a wicked Pamela. Yeah. Yeah. but Hey you guys need to watch that new series.
Speaker: I'm peacock. But. um Yeah, like, I mean... You could go down the list of every horror movie, and there's so many. Like, Pieces was another stupid one.
Speaker: Um... But yet again. It e was what it was. Um... there There are other ones out there. That are just.
Speaker: Ugh! There's so many of them and I know I'm missing them, but... um again, they're I honestly do believe that, and I know a lot of people probably disagree with this, but I think...
Speaker: George A. Romero's original Dead. Series is one that's. easily forgotten. just because He wasn't smart enough.
Speaker: And I'm not shitting on George A. Romero with this because I love George A. Romero. I think he was way ahead of his time with the whole zombie apocalyptic setting.
Speaker: Um... Motherfucker should have copyrighted Night of the Living Dead. Should have went to a copyright thing so then we don't have as many as we do and all of them suck.
Speaker: The only one that is as good as Night of Living Dead. The original was the remake in the 90s by Tom Savini. Other than that... All the other. rip -offs of Night of the Living Dead.
Speaker: are stupid. Um... Now. If you ask me which my favorite one in the whole Dead trilogy is, I think it's Dawn.
Speaker: i've I've said that multiple times. I think we even did a... podcast episode on which one I like the most. Um... And. You can even go revenge the living or return to the living dead.
Speaker: which were kind of comedy movies. Um. Still very good though. And... I would. I... I think. One day we will get more into the whole zombie ghouls.
Speaker: episode down the road. um We're almost up on an hour or so. I think we've word vomited it enough. for tonight. Um. Hopefully you all enjoy this. If you did, don't forget to hit that smash that like button. If you aren't subscribed yet,
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