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Daily Manchester United - 145 - Wildcard Wedesday
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Kieran, Tom, and Pete are on today’s episode for a little bit of everything! Pete’s trip to Old Trafford, reminiscing about the past (again), and a look at the transfer rumblings.
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Introduction and Co-host Introduction
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone and welcome back to the daily Manchester United Happy Wildcard Wednesday and if you're of the volition of celebrating Easter yes it is Wednesday I had to remind myself of that as well.
00:00:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
My name is Kieran McGinley I'm joined alongside on today's episode by the lovely Mr Tom Kenz. Tom how are you doing on this episode?
00:00:26
Tom Cairns
and Not too bad, Kieran. Hello to you everyone. Life is a rollercoaster, as they all say. You know, Thursday and Sunday proved exactly that. But we've got a little little bit of a break midweek, haven't we, before we next play Bournemouth this Sunday coming.
00:00:40
Tom Cairns
So it gives... Ruben Emmer in a little bit of time to think about what he decides to do for Sunday's game, because I can imagine it's going to be a similar lineup to the one we saw against Bournemouth. I can imagine going to few more names being rotated around to get some rest and give those who were rested maybe a little bit of game time before we make the trip to Bilbao, which is very much our season again.
00:01:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
Guest Introduction: Pete Fitzpatrick
00:01:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
certainly will be. And joining us for the first time, you may have already seen him on TikTok, GSPN Man United. He joins us for an episode today. It's Pete Fitzpatrick. Pete, welcome to the podcast. Welcome to, well, as Tom said, the roller coaster. hope you've got that white knuckle grip on.
00:01:23
Pete
Yeah, far you to use it now, but ah yeah thanks a million for having me on the show and hi to everyone everyone listening. and Yeah, you might have seen me on TikTok with a lot of bleeps, but it was about 20 minutes after the game and as you can see, the hair has long gone, but the head was gone and the heart was somewhere
Intense Game Recap: Man United vs Lyon
00:01:40
Pete
else.
00:01:40
Pete
So yeah, it was ah it was quite, that was, yeah, I'd never, I was at the 4-3 against Liverpool last season and and I always said, was like, I don't think I'll ever have a game like that again.
00:01:52
Pete
Like, what are odds? And in that game, yeah, it was the lowest lows. i Like, as everyone everyone was thinking, like, where do we go from here as a club? Like, it felt like the fate of, like, the next five years was on the line.
00:02:05
Pete
And also, where would Amarim go if you lose the game like that? ah But then just to, like, absolute bedlam. And I have a few, we'll get into it, I few war wounds on my body as a result of the Maguire goal.
00:02:17
Pete
But we'll get into it.
00:02:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, on TikTok, on that clip, you said it was the greatest comeback. I should say greatest censored comeback since 99. A week's passed now, were roughly a week. Still have that same mindset?
00:02:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Still agree with yourself?
00:02:32
Pete
a Yeah, in terms of like three goals in six minutes and added time, was the like i was saying Maguire Maynard was like crouching the foe, like the big man, little man.
00:02:46
Pete
And it just reminded me after, because there's a picture of them together. ah But yeah, in terms of also like the fate of... There felt like there was so much on the line. And then you're looking back, what are the great European comebacks we had...
00:02:59
Pete
We've obviously had a lot, but in recent times, I'd still stand by it just because there was so much on it. didn't It wasn't like, ah we've had a few good comebacks in the league and stuff and here and there, but like what did it mean, really?
00:03:14
Pete
And I do think the one last year against Liverpool, that was more of a topsy-turvy back-and-forth game again in the f FA Cup. So... Yeah, I'll stand by it. But I don't want another one. I'd like just to for once just a calm semi-final somehow. But that won't happen. We know won't happen.
00:03:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, weirder things have happened this season, Pete, and it seems to be the man mantra of this team. ah Tom, you weren't at the stadium, but i mean you were watching the game, at least the latter half of it. What did you make of it?
00:03:44
Tom Cairns
It was a crazy game because we were cruising from the performance in the first half and second half, it was all Leon. I couldn't really believe my eyes. It was a blessing. It went to extra time because ah upset Leon's momentum a little bit.
00:04:00
Tom Cairns
By the time they went down to 10 men, it made me think, right, we've got a good chance of scraping through here. But then for some, sorry, for some reason, Leon were able to get that third goal. Thanks to the man who got the equalizer in the,
00:04:13
Tom Cairns
First leg, Shirky, um his name. and And then by the time, like i said, put it from the penalty spot, I really thought that was that. we were not coming but We were not going to score three goals, given how poorly we'd been all campaign.
00:04:27
Tom Cairns
From the moment we got the penalty, I sort think, right, okay, if we get this pen put away, we've got a chance. Bruno puts it away and then the momentum just swings again in Manchester United's favour.
00:04:39
Tom Cairns
And then up came Manu with a brilliant dribble into the box and slotting it away.
00:04:39
Pete
Thank you.
00:04:45
Tom Cairns
Oh my God. My heart was pumping by that point. I knew there was going to be a lot of added time because of the injuries we had in the second half of that extra time period. It was going to be something like four or five. Thankfully it was five.
00:04:56
Tom Cairns
But, you know, Maguire was able to put in that header from Casemiro. My word. I was almost screaming head off in the hotel bar. but Thankfully, there weren't too many people in the room.
00:05:08
Tom Cairns
But though it was phenomenal. I've
Extraordinary Match Highlights
00:05:11
Tom Cairns
never seen a game like that before where there'd been five goals scored in extra time with three of them coming in the last, well, four of them coming in the second half of extra time.
00:05:22
Tom Cairns
It's crazy.
00:05:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, it was, it sort of like felt like United had run out of steam. As you said, by the time Lyon's fourth goal had gone in, it just felt like the heads had dropped.
00:05:32
Pete
Thank you.
00:05:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
And all of a sudden we win the penalty, Bruno dispatches of it. And all of a sudden there's this boost and Kobi Meynu coming on as a, well, makeshift striker, as you say, fantastic footwork in the box to be able to get the shot away.
00:05:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Then it's equaliser. And I'm sitting at home watching on thinking, it's going to penalties and this could go either way. Okay, we get to pick which player we don't get to take the penalties. Probably someone like Inanna or Lindelof, someone who's not had good experiences with penalties. But...
00:06:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
All of a sudden, 60 seconds later, they've they're not long talking about the last goal, and suddenly Maguire's up there to head home. And it was just surreal. I thought, is he offside? Has he pushed the other defender?
00:06:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
But no, it stood, and... ah you were just sitting there for three or four minutes in total delirium. Like, is is this really happening? Is this how we're going to win this game? Almost expecting another twist in the tail being caught out at the other end. But yeah, its it's been crazy. And I don't think a game could sum up Manchester United more this season.
00:06:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, we threw away a 2-0 lead. We conceded, know, Two really, really poor goals to concede, in all honesty.
00:06:41
Pete
Thank you.
00:06:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then to to fight back at four two down. It's had a little bit of everything of what we struggle with this season. and um With not having the goals up front when we need them. The defence, I don't think has been the worst part of this team, but it's certainly not helped.
00:07:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
And... and Yeah, I have to say for Andre Inano, the four goals that he did concede, there wasn't a lot he could do about them. yet He's been a lot under a lot of criticism. Some of it you know he brought on himself with the comments about Leon. We should easily dispatch of them.
00:07:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Leon fans gave him absolute hell for, what's that, 210 minutes if my math serves me well, maybe a little bit more. And it almost worked, them giving him hell. But we just managed to prevail with Harry Maguire being the saviour. And yeah, I mean, I could happily talk about that game for,
00:07:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, the next couple of minutes. But I'm sure everyone wants to move on because we had that game against Wolves and we're straight back down to earth. But hey-ho, that's the life of a Manchester United fan base. We're well used to it this season.
00:07:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Although the news came yesterday that we're mathematically staying up. So can I get an ooh?
00:07:50
Pete
part Party time.
00:07:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
Avoiding Relegation Celebration
00:07:52
Pete
time
00:07:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Party time.
00:07:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're safe for it another year. Oh, goodness me. Anyway, more reaction to what's been going on recently and maybe some transfer news coming down the line.
00:08:00
Pete
Okay.
00:08:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll be back after this.
00:08:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, ah Pete, obviously more about yourself, first time on the episode. We've got to know, it's sort of like a trial by fire this season with anyone who had you welcome to the to the show.
00:09:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
How did you have the ignominy of supporting Manchester United, especially in this time right now?
00:09:08
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:09:14
Pete
and So, obviously I'm Irish and that's 50-50 split down the line. Actually, no, South Wales as well. But in English, Cubs, obviously, it's United or Liverpool.
00:09:24
Pete
And then whoever's the good team that's good when you're seven or eight. So, a lot of mates support Arsenal. And, yeah, it's not great. But, no, I supported them. My dad supported them and...
00:09:36
Pete
my uncle, massive Liverpool fan, my dad was United and my mum always said my uncle tried to buy me Liverpool jersey when i was born and she said no he'll pick his own team so which I always thank her for sometimes now but my dad, my granddad supported Man United as well not so much, ah like still alive but but United it obviously helped that United were good and my uncle supported them, on the other side supported them and it was kind of like 2000 around that time
00:09:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Boo.
00:10:04
Pete
Roy Keane was the captain, Dennis Irwin, big Irish influence. There was also Man United cafe in Dublin that lasted all of six months. But I got my first jersey there, Dwight York one. And that was kind of the, yeah, just from there went on. And then first United game was actually at Anfield.
00:10:22
Pete
with the uncle who supported them and my dad and my dad was like you can't wear a jersey in but i wore under like five layers and we lost but first of the moment i'd say i fell in love with it all even though i 2001 2002 was the first season i like fully remember of like properly following them and i went to a game my granddad's 70th they won 4-1 van israel score twice david beckham free kick and phil neville they're all in the first half of at our end
00:10:33
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:10:48
Pete
And it was kind of from there, i was like, yeah, Vanessa Royce referred to Flair and that's not changed.
00:10:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank
00:10:54
Pete
So from there, it was like, yeah, this is the thing. It's great. ah And it's kicked on from there and never really looked back. And up until I was 19, it fantastic. My 20s were pretty bad, but I'm at the point now, kind of like you need to, like I was obviously at the match here on Thursday,
00:11:18
Pete
There's people leaving like around me and a couple of my friends tried to leave and I was like, what are doing? like And he was like, thank God, thank God you rescued me. i was like like, you take the bad times. like At the moment, when you'll remember eventually when United get good again. It will happen.
00:11:32
Pete
You'll remember the bad times. And I always remember that growing up. My dad, like we were all, you thought United just win everything. That's just what this club does. It was all we knew. And my dad was like, I remember watching Maniardic get relegated. So like, you know, like just kind of makes you, you have to pay things relative terms, but yeah, wouldn't regret it either way. You kind of, ups and downs, as I said, the rollercoaster of supporting the club. So that's kind of a long story short, I'm Irish is basically why I support them.
00:12:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I love that. Gave us a sort of a short story as well, as well as the detailed.
00:12:06
Pete
Yeah.
00:12:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
and But you're right, as ah King Eric, I'll paraphrase him you can never change a football club. So we're glad you're stuck with Manchester United because, um I mean, the reaction after the game on Thursday speaks volumes.
00:12:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
um and And that is that. I mean, Tom... Obviously, great memories. I mean, we find ourselves in this trap again.
00:12:26
Pete
this
00:12:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know, you hear the late likes of Beckham and Van Nistelrooy. I mean, what what a striker Van Nistelrooy was. Absolutely deadly in front of goal. it's It's so easy, especially right now, to sort of look back to the past and with rose-tinted glasses and think, man, we had it so, so good.
00:12:43
Tom Cairns
Man, I would do anything to get that squad back or get a squad like those. But of course, football changes from time to time. Venisoroy was a player who wasn't exactly the most skillful, but he was one of the most determined players I had ever seen.
00:12:58
Tom Cairns
Grace, a Manchester United shirt. And you know he put it on and got on with it. I will probably say that I think his ego had kicked into him towards the end of his time, hence why Srelix decided that he needed to move on. it And so Venisoroy went to Real Madrid in 2006.
00:13:15
Tom Cairns
But think he still has a heart at Manchester United as Van Nistelrooy. It's a shame what's happened to him over at Leicester. you know It hasn't clearly gone right for him. and I doubt that he'll be there next season.
00:13:27
Tom Cairns
He will be looking for a new job, I think. But you know if there's an opportunity for him to come back into the coaching staff at Manchester United, I'd be all for that because I think his energy could be what United need at this minute in time. It's just whether Ruben Ambran buys into what he can bring.
00:13:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but I sort of think if if there was a place for him at Man United, especially when Amirim came into the job, he he would have gladly gone back as a coach. But I think yeah he got that taste of management. Management is what he's wanted to do. So it makes sense to try and take the plunge at ah at another club. If he wasn't going to get the chance at Manchester United, try it try it somewhere else and when you've got top-class players who try and get their hand in management, you know you've you've you've got your Roonies and your Lampards and your Gerrards who find it tough because they're expecting the players they coach to be at their level.
00:14:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And it's normally that those ones that are sort of in the background. You know, Eddie Howes, who you know may not be the flashiest players, but they've got the footballing brain. i mean, you could argue Pep Guardiola is probably... Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho were good players. Jose Mourinho, his career really curtailed by injury.
00:14:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Pep playing for Barcelona was ah was a good talent, but I feel like the best managers come from you know players that were quite good, but not the limelight, not stealing the show. And even then, captains of clubs seems to be even a little bit rarer. I mean, John Terry, I know, is in is in coaching, but I don't think he's had a hand at management just yet.
00:14:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I wonder, you know, for Van Nistelrooy, what the next step will be, whether he will ever be a Manchester United manager. I'm sure the Stretford MP will welcome him with open arms if that ever were if that ever were to happen.
00:15:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we're with Amerim at the moment and we're sort of sticking with it.
00:15:12
Pete
um yeah On Van Nistelrooy. Yeah, I was... like I remember at the time, it was obviously annoyed. It was so cool seeing Van Nistelrooy manage us. But I was not ever really in favour of Oli as the manager. was kind of like, this is a nostalgia trip.
00:15:28
Pete
it's not realistic for these guys to come in and this is not like this not how it works. like You don't just get the Man United job because you're a good one. may as well have Dwight York as an ex-manager. you like It's not really... I was like, this is actually like the best version of Oli.
00:15:43
Pete
Interim run. Have the honeymoon period, we're all happy, but we never get to the point where it's getting toxic and it's kind of like... At the end of Oli, people were like, Oli in, Oli out and all that.
00:15:54
Pete
And you're kind of like, oh this is bit... don't like this. like So Vanistro is like, you know, you have you're an unbeaten Man United manager. What a great achievement. Same as Michael Carrick. And you're like, you know, that's a good thing to have. and I remember the Leicester job was an awful job for to take.
00:16:09
Pete
And I do think, to be fair, it was the manager PSV did relatively well, but he left. He fell out of board or something. But Leicester team are awful. Really, really poor team. And no one's surprised like no one has but but no no one surprised going so I think maybe he was like, well, it's a Premier League job. Like, i like English football a lot. I've an affinity towards it.
00:16:32
Pete
And, yeah, but it's just funny. He probably got offered a job because in his four games with us, he beat them five two and 3-0. And they probably thought, like, we'll get this guy. But I think Van Isteroyd knew all their Leicester's weaknesses. He probably thought, well, they've got no strengths.
00:16:46
Pete
So, like, I feel bad for him, but it was just is poison chalice where he was taking that job.
00:16:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
was going to say, just be careful punching down, Pete. You never know. we we have a limited range of punching down, especially this season.
00:16:58
Pete
yeah
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
But...
00:16:59
Pete
Just the promoted teams are the only teams that we can seemingly beat.
00:17:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it seems that that way. I mean, you look at Wolves, they are, what's it now, six on the bounce? um First the points, then the pints is is the phrase around Wolverhampton right now.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, yeah, fair enough. they've They've dragged themselves up towards that sort of mid-table, which I really couldn't have seen them do in that first instance. But more about one Wolves player in particular when we talk a bit about transfers. We'll be back after this.
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00:18:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
and I've said it before and I'll say it again, get me to summer. And of course we get to this period of time where who isn't Manchester United linked with in a transfer window.
00:18:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
The past two have been decent, ah but some of the names that are coming out, you
Transfer Talk: Mateus Cunha to Man United?
00:18:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
know, uh, Mateus Cunha being a bright spark for Wolves this season. Um, apparently we're one of five Premier League clubs that are in for Mateus Cunha in this window. Um, that's according to Sky Sports.
00:18:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Tom, quick on quickly on Matthias Cunha. Is he a realistic signing? Can you see him in a Manchester United shirt? And is he the answer to our prayers up front?
00:18:47
Tom Cairns
It doesn't feel like a gamble going for someone like him. and It's just, is he worth 62 and a half million? I think that's more of the question. Having said that, we paid 72 million for Rasmus Hoyland nearly two years ago now.
00:19:01
Tom Cairns
The first season he had was actually all right, but this season, nowhere one near it. With Matthias Cunha, I can see him hitting the ground running.
00:19:07
Pete
Thank
00:19:10
Tom Cairns
I just worry how long he'll get, depending on how our season goes and whether Amram stays in the job or not. Because I can't imagine some of the players that we've got, who Ericsson Harden signed, will stick around. They'll probably be sent out on loan, if not move on for good.
00:19:26
Tom Cairns
Martinez Cunha. It's not too bad of a sign in, I don't think. But it's just whether he would gel into Manchester United's system. He may have gelled into Wolves' system nicely. but Manchester United different kettle of fish to how they play compared to how Wolves play.
00:19:41
Tom Cairns
It feels to me like Cunha has more of a limited skill set, which is the kind of skill set you to find with Anthony Alanga, for instance, who's at Nottingham Forest. I'm not 100% sure.
00:19:52
Pete
you
00:19:53
Tom Cairns
I think it's more the fact that his price tag is what puts me off. I don't blame United necessarily going for him. It's just whether... Are there cheaper options out there? That would be my only say.
00:20:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Pete, how about yourself with with coonna
00:20:08
Pete
and Yeah, on the system, I'm kind of like, yeah, like he these Wolves do play a similar system to us, 3-4-3, and you can kind of see the way he plays. Yeah, you can see him in of those 10 positions.
00:20:19
Pete
On the price side, like yeah, it is a lot of money, but I'm kind of like... You're not getting a player from Premier League team. And ah the Hoyland point's fair as well because we've said nothing. And Anthony.
00:20:30
Pete
But it's hard. Who would you get from a Premier League team, bar a team going down, that you're going to get reasonable deal? Solanke cost £65 million. He had one good season for Bournemouth and then Spurs bought for that.
00:20:42
Pete
and And you're kind of looking around elsewhere. Semenyo from Bournemouth is going to go for... like They're not going to give him away on the cheap. Mbumo would cost a similar amount, I think. And that's the one that was kind of people were kind of bandying around, is one or the other.
00:20:55
Pete
ah But yeah, Cunha, I'm like, yeah, he plays a 10, he can also kind of play as 9, goes this, very good at dribbling. remember the game, first game last season when Wolves ran through us, kind of like the first signs of,
00:21:07
Pete
this new Schoenhaag 4-3-3 is a disaster. He ran through us. So it is we need people who can carry the ball. We don't have enough of those people. And ah he's a good age profile. He's 25 going against 26.
00:21:19
Pete
and Because we can't just buy all potential. We need to have guys who are good to go. And we brought Bruno at 25, so it's almost a template. You need some these guys are just going to like want to step up to the next level and go well at United.
00:21:31
Pete
And he does seem like that. He said a lot of things... wants to test himself, wants to try himself out. And he's talked lot of nice things about United in the past, that he used support them growing up.
00:21:42
Pete
And he said Anderson was his favorite player, which is great. I always loved Anderson. ah So yeah, and I do think, I like the fact that he has a bit of edge and personality. I know he's had a few disciplinary issues.
00:21:54
Pete
But apparently thiss this is the first season he's had them. But I like someone to be like, yeah, you're hungry. You want to do well. You're not just here to pick up a paycheck. So yeah, I think it's... When was the last... We don't sign Premier League proven players. We need to be shopping in Italy the whole time now for forwards.
00:22:08
Pete
So yeah, it's the it's the price tag depending on what our budget is overall with sales in Europa. And then also there always is the risk because...
00:22:19
Pete
every United signing has a risk these days. There's no, like, if you could find the best player in the world and you'd still be worried that they'd, like, something would go wrong. So, yeah, it's on paper, but I'm happy with it. But I was on paper, i was happy with a lot of signings. So, I'll just, we'll hold on for now.
00:22:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, Pete, you say about we need to stop shopping in Italy. Well, there's this you know reports from 442 about Victor
Victor Ossiman Acquisition Debate
00:22:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ossiman. And a deal in principle has have been agreed for around £65 million, his reports there.
00:22:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, looking at his stats this season, OK, we're not technically shopping in Italy. If you want to technically call we're shopping in Turkey. But in the Turkish Super League, 21 goals in 25 appearances. Europa League, six goals in seven.
00:23:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean... we're We're talking about a player here who can make chances and take them on his own, which Hoyland has struggled to do. And Ossiman seems like a player that he could you know grab a game by the scruff of the neck.
00:23:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do you reckon, Pete? did you Could you stomach one more striker from Italy?
00:23:18
Pete
I, yeah, no, sorry, I should have, yeah, I didn't think of that when I was saying that. There's always an exception to a rule, as they say, and I do think the big difference there is, like you said, like, yeah Osman did it for Napoli, like, he won the league with them, and he's played Champions League, he's played Europa, he's not like, that but but Hoyland has barely played half a season. I liked Hoyland at the start, I rated him, I liked him last season, but he's regressed a lot, and he did need a senior striker with him, so no, Osman would fit the bill, and Osman does the way he plays,
00:23:46
Pete
you can imagine him playing in the Premier League. He has no problem. As you said, he can make his own chances. He seems have no problem with the physicality. he's really He's rapid. like his every His profile lines up with a Premier League striker. And again, he's 26. So he's probably someone of being like, yes, I want to play for a massive club. And if we're in the Champions League, I'd be like, let's just get awesome and buy a senior striker.
00:24:10
Pete
Maybe Hoyland can just be there as well and learn off from Mercerxie or whatever you there. But yeah, on the other side, like the lap looks great and all, but i'm I'm kind of like, think we need someone who's just like, i don't need to learn. I'm going to come in here and start banging the girls right away because that's what went wrong with Hoyland. Like it was just all too much. And obviously there's a million other issues at United that have contributed to it, but it is just a lot to put on someone.
00:24:34
Pete
And going from Apeswitch to United is... heat like But playing at Napoli, that's a big club, a massive stadium, massive fan pressure every day. and so no ah yeah, Osman and Cunha, I'd be very happy with. But again, that's a lot of money.
00:24:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is a lot of money. But Tom, what ah but ah what about yourself? Could you see Osserman in a United shirt?
00:24:55
Tom Cairns
He had been mooted to be in the Premier League for some time, hadn't he, for a few years. I thought there was like some rumours of linking him with Chelsea. There may have been another club as well, but with United, i would happily take him.
00:25:07
Tom Cairns
I mean, we've been lacking this killer instinct all season. It's fine having good wingers like Amidiallo and players like Bruno Fernandes getting on the score sheet and putting a lot of assists, but they can only do so much.
00:25:21
Tom Cairns
With Cunha and Osterham, it would help alleviate some of the pressure from those particular players. Hoyland right now isn't good enough, but I think he would still be good enough to be a squad player at least, be the kind of player that comes off the bench, just to help we rejuvenate some of the spirit that was lost from him last season.
00:25:44
Tom Cairns
It's just, when we get to next season and everyone is very much fit, includingerxi including Xerxes, including including Martinez and others, I just want to see ah fully strengthened attack inside.
00:26:02
Tom Cairns
Defense is fine. It's the attack side of things that needs work.
00:26:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and i mean, could you call them
Rashford and Anthony's Future at Man United
00:26:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
signings? um When we get to the summer, we'll obviously have the lone returns of Marcus Rashford and Anthony. Now, I'll come to you first, Tom.
00:26:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Have they done enough at their respective clubs, Anthony at Real Betis and Marcus Rashford at Aston Villa? Have they done enough to give them another chance in the starting line-up?
00:26:33
Tom Cairns
Anthony, no, because i think he's better at playing in a particular league where his strengths come into the into the fray. With Rashford, if he doesn't hit the ground running straight away, then I think it would be time for him to move on.
00:26:51
Tom Cairns
Or if his attitude isn't even there for when the likes of Cunha and Opsanen arrive, then that's when you need to pull the plug on him. Marcus has had his time at Manchester United. We'd all love to see him perform well. We'd love to see him succeed, no matter where he goes.
00:27:06
Tom Cairns
But for me, I think Marcus has had his time at Manchester United. I think it's about time he just stepped aside and let someone else take his place. And besides, United have already changed the system from having two wingers to having two attacking midfielders and having those two wingbacks, which are filled at the moment by Delo on the right-hand side and Dorgue on the left, until Diallo gets back.
00:27:29
Tom Cairns
I would say with Anthony, he needs to move on. Because he's he's just not going to fit into that Manchester United system, I'm afraid.
00:27:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Pete, same question.
00:27:38
Pete
ah Yeah, I've actually what Tom said. Anthony, like... Anthony's not proving anyone wrong. Like, Anthony's just not... One, he's not a good enough player for... know we're not good, but a team that wants to be winning titles, like, that is the ambition at the end day.
00:27:53
Pete
So, and if Anthony's so good, like, I will say... why don't Arsenal buy him in the summer? Or Liverpool? Would you want your club to buy him? The answer would be no. So he suits the league, as Tom said, suits slower style.
00:28:05
Pete
And suits playing for Betis, not as much attention. He's a more of a marquee player. he gets more the ball. He's not getting subbed off. And his confidence would be boosted by... like you know he got a chance, if he wasn't playing well after 45, he's likely off.
00:28:18
Pete
And then Rashford... Not a bad way. I don't want to see Rashford even at the training ground this summer because it's just over. like We can't be kicking this on. For his sake as much as anyone, for everyone's sake, it's just it's like it's a painful breakup in a sense.
00:28:32
Pete
Still of a lot of time for Marcus Rashford and he scored against City tonight in the penalty spot. And like, yeah, some things never change seemingly. But times, it's over. like and Again, if Rashford's so brilliant and United ruined him he's back and all this stuff,
00:28:46
Pete
Villa stumped up the cash for him or another club by him but I just think that relationship with United is broken and the relationship with Ambram is broken and I was at a few games this season actually saw his last goals for the club which is bit mad but I went to Liverpool at the start of the season 3-0 and like fans turned on so quickly like the relationship was gone so I just think for everyone's sake, you know, better, but and also better players have left United before than Marcus Rashford.
00:29:14
Pete
And there were players who were more, far more revered, Vanistroy, Roy Keane, Bex, Sam, lot of left in like acrimonious circumstances. It doesn't really define your legacy.
00:29:25
Pete
And I think it's just time to be like, okay, It's a shame how worked out. United are to blame for a lot of Rashford's problems and things that happened. But it's not on Ruben Amrum to fix problems that he inherited.
00:29:36
Pete
If the guy's not going to work, like if it's just not working, just move on. So no, I think all the guys, and hope to God, Jadon Zancho goes to Chelsea. Malassia, if you're out on loan now, you're just going out.
00:29:47
Pete
One, because Amrum doesn't want in squad. And two, the wages, a little bit off the wages for the next six months. And three, can your value be increased so we can sell you and buy you players that actually will contribute?
00:30:00
Pete
So, yeah, I think it's just for a lot of, and there's lot guys in the squad, but like it's just, time's up. Like you've had a go at it. You're not good enough.
00:30:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and as you said, Pete, as we record this, ah City and Aston Villa are playing. ah Villa have scored with Marcus Rashid from the spot. Correct me if I'm wrong, that is his first goal in the Premier League this season, isn't it?
00:30:19
Pete
He scored against Brighton away.
00:30:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, did he? Okay, right.
00:30:22
Pete
Yeah.
00:30:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
so I was going to make that point of, oh, he's only just scored now, but no.
00:30:25
Pete
Yeah. But no, he's not.
00:30:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. Okay.
00:30:27
Pete
he's not ah Rashford, he's got four goals now. He's got two against Preston.
00:30:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:30:32
Pete
The stats aren't everything, obviously. But stats always get brought up with United players, even people who've done Aaron watching other matches. But if Rashford had the stats he had in the Champions League for us, a different conversation and PSG game he did play extremely well in that second half before Emery bizarrely sucked him off when he was like was like Marcus Rashford is like on it like he's got an extremely high ceiling you just keep him on and give him the ball but in that first half he was terrible and I was like that's Marcus Rashford doesn't prove anything different societiess that's what he is
00:31:05
Pete
He's up and down, he's streaky. Is that because he was poorly coached United with like six or seven different managers and systems? high Probably, that's probably a large part of the reason. But that's what Mark Strashford is like.
00:31:15
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:31:16
Pete
He'll give you amazing moments and it'll frustrate you as well. So it's, what do you want? Like, do what I don't really, we don't need, we need players who are, Like I said a while ago, you know, I'd need like Dennis Irwin's like seven out of 10 every week, sometimes eight, occasionally nine.
00:31:33
Pete
None of the, like Bruno Fernandes is like that, but none of these guys who are one week unbelievable, the next week, they don't want to be seen. So yeah, I'm not, yeah, just we're, we we we can't do do with these guys anymore.
00:31:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:31:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, it's it's it's a tough one, like especially with the Rashford, as as you said, Tom. For someone like Rashford to have come through the system from the Youth Academy, scored on pretty much every debut he ever had for Manchester United and on his England debut, don't forget, as well.
00:32:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Now he's 27.
00:32:05
Tom Cairns
Perfect.
00:32:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
He should be in his prime, and yet so far he's got two goals in the Premier League so far this season. and We're at game, what was it, game week 33, 32, 33? So, Is that a sign, as you say, Tom, that sort of maybe backs up the point that maybe it is time for Rashford to, well, Villa would be ah a good fit for him because they'd be probably in the Champions League or at least in some sort of Europe guaranteed by the Premier League stage.
00:32:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe a a change of scenery is what Marcus needs.
00:32:33
Tom Cairns
I would agree with that. And just correct you, Marcus Rashford had scored four goals for United in the Premier League this season. And like what?
00:32:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just don't know anything, do I?
00:32:40
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:32:41
Pete
ah
00:32:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
said I'm out.
00:32:41
Tom Cairns
ah Yeah. OK. But plus the two for Aston Villa. ah So he's on six goals this season in the Premier League, plus the goals he scored against Barnsley. And he scored one in the Europa League against Porto.
00:32:52
Tom Cairns
And then he got two in the FA Cup at Preston, I believe.
00:32:52
Pete
Yeah.
00:32:55
Tom Cairns
Or was it one goal?
00:32:55
Pete
yeah data Yeah.
00:32:56
Tom Cairns
ah was it Yeah, it was two. Yeah.
00:32:57
Pete
That, yeah, that portal game, and I heard it earlier remember that game like that was the best Rasker play for United in ages and again Hag subbed him off at half time he scored a goal he set Hoyland's goal and he was talking about like oh he's not tracking back or something weird like that but it was like you're like fighting for your job this guy is you just don't when Rasker's like that it's been It was a rarity in his last 18 months at United, but you keep him on because he does have a lot of ability and it's never been a talent debate about Marcus Rashford. What's talent if he's be there all the time?
00:33:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, well, sub me off because I know nothing about football or Marcus Rashford, but there we go. I'm glad to have been joined by Tom and Pete, who know far more about Marcus Rashford than myself. And
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00:33:45
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00:34:25
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