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Ep 138 Harness the Hard Times - We Are Driven Podcast
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Arun and Dan discuss stories of hard times and what they learned from it.
Arun "The Driver" Coumar is an automotive entrepreneur, car enthusiast, and motivator, CEO of Driven Automotive Companies. Shop apparel, Join the Driven Network: wearedriven.co
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00:00:14
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Can I explore this? It's probably going to be a 2017 Explorer sport. Yeah, modify it. Six inch lift, forties.
00:00:31
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I don't know if you can get a lift that big for one of those, but I'm interested. I can make it. Yeah. You don't know what I'm capable of. I don't know what I'm capable of. I don't think you can do it. You couldn't do it on a 2002. You know how you can just cut the springs on old cars. This is, you can just put a second spring on top of the first spring. Yeah, but then the independent rear suspension and half shafts are going to freak the fuck out because the angles are going to be like down like 90 degrees. You probably probably would break it before it even turned. That's OK. You'd have a massive, massive negative offset wheel with positive camber. Yeah, that shit's breaking for sure areas. Good morning.
00:01:22
Speaker
Welcome to the We Are Driven podcast, where cars meet motivation. This is episode 138. My name is Arun Kumar, and I am the driver. And I'm here with my co-host, Dan LaRue, who advocates for modifying Explorers. Hey, Kyle. I would. Good morning. I'm good. yeah Good to hear it. So we're here with the We Are Driven podcast to build a community of driven people around the world. This is one of the ways in which we're doing it. This podcast is basically half automotive banter, half heavy topics of motivation and success and the tactical ways in which we want to go about achieving it.
00:02:08
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We also have a YouTube channel, it's called Driven Diary, where there is a weekly vlog uploaded that's capturing a day in the life of myself as I build a billion dollar automotive services business. And lastly, we have a Discord server, which is basically a app based chat room where the driven people of the We Are Driven community come together to hold each other accountable, discuss the pursuit of excellence in business, fitness, and cars, and work through the iterative goal-setting framework. So why are we doing all this? We believe that driven people are the next leaders of our society. So we want to bring everybody together, get everyone on the same page so that we can unite to make the world a better place.
00:02:54
Speaker
Now, Dan promised me a spicy news segment today. um Yeah, I see. But yeah, it's so I originally had something different but found out as I was going to pull up some articles this morning that, you know, I just live under a rock. And it's not not a new thing. I was going to talk about the Kona SEG ESS because I saw ah like a recent video of Kona SEG ripping on one. yeah and I was like, oh, that's freaking sick. Like, no, they were talking about this last year in 2022. So we're not we're not going to talk about that. But I did have a spicy little piece of information.
00:03:41
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about the UAW. So ooh I was in Michigan ah the week of the 12th. and we are recording on June 18th for the listeners. So this is last week for me and my parents had the Detroit news on and they were talking about the UAW and I stopped mid conversation and I walked into the living room and I was looking at the TV and President Sean Fain is under investigation. So after me and Arun shitting on the UAW for a better part of six months in the strikes and all this jazz,
00:04:19
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There's a 32 page status report that was filed that Fain is being investigated for allegations that Union has not been cooperating with the federal monitor who is investigating Fain for possibly trying to get like regional directors to engage in acts of financial misconduct to benefit others. So like he was benefiting. I'm assuming him, they're they're like looking at possible embezzlement charges ah within the UAW and it seemed like he was strong arming and threatening other directors from the way that this article reads from CBS Detroit, which is really interesting. So like for an example, in providing requested documents and that Fane retaliated against the UAW secretary treasurer for her refusal to authorize
00:05:17
Speaker
quotes certain expenditures of funds at the request of and or for benefit of those in the president's office end quotes so they go through all this fighting with the manufacturers and of course they're making a ton of money now because of the deals that they've made and it sounds like there might be some shady stuff going on which is Historically, kind of accurate for the UAW. Pretty expected for unions and federal monitors and all all. Yeah. So they're not cooperating with the federal monitors. The federal monitors are are actively investigating Fain's office. So I'm sure there'll be more to come on that, but it is very spicy. And I, I hope that they get this dude because I thought he was a snake in the grass from the moment the strike started.
00:06:11
Speaker
How tall is the grass? I think it's pretty tall. You think? I mean, I hope it's not because I think my metaphor here is basically the shorter the grass, the easier it will be to catch the snake. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, in general, if you were to consider every corrupt leader and and specifically corrupt, like,
00:06:39
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nonprofit organization, politician, all those kind of people. The grass is getting shorter and shorter and shorter and it's great to see it. Well, yeah. And when, when you come into the industry and you openly start a strike amongst multiple manufacturers and create deals that in my opinion, fuck the consumers. Oh yeah. Like, yeah, people are going to be looking at you and they're going to be looking at your balance sheets because they're public.
00:07:09
Speaker
Like come on got him. What do you expect?
00:07:15
Speaker
Yeah. Well, we'll keep an eye on that one is it as it evolves. Definitely some spicy news. All right. Cool. Okay. Let's move on to our appraisals. So this is where Dan and I give each other an auction from bring a trailer. We guess what the hammer price is going to be. Whoever gets closer wins bragging rights. I've been bragging for a number, many big numbers of weeks in a row. but Dan actually beat me this week. Yay. I win by, by 0.7%. And we both actually kind of crushed it this week. So Dan gave me a nice, slightly modified 7.3 power stroke excursion. I guess 41,000, it went for 42,000. So I was off by 2.4%.
00:08:09
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I gave Dan pretty much a brand new in the wrapper 76 mile 2015 50th anniversary Wimbledon white Mustang. Dan guessed $45,000 and it went for $44,250. Yeah, that was ah a layup for old Dan here. Solid. Good stuff. leo you Give me anything an S550, I can probably get pretty close. Pretty close. So you were off by 1.7%. This week, I have something for you that is not an S550, but it is a V8 rear wheel drive car.
00:08:50
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Oh boy. I'm what I have for you. I'm super scared that we bought the same car. A Jaguar. Oh, okay. We didn't. A 2002 Jaguar super V8. Now I'm pretty sure this is an XJ, but they've called it you in this listing. Super V8. And so this, this is California car. Oh yeah. Purchased by the current owner's father in 2015 has 77,000 miles. It is black over charcoal and it has a supercharged four liter V8.
00:09:35
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with five-speed automatic. Back in 2002, it came with rear parking sensors, a CD changer, navigation, heated adjustable front seats, I would hope so, but also heated rear seats, and automatic climate control. You failed to mention my favorite part of interiors of this era, the very fake lip grain. Oh, not the car phone that I'm sure it has. Now that wood grain is gross. Okay, so this is one of 788 of this car ever made factory supercharged. So it's rare. 23 to go. So current bid $10,000 and basically a day left. There's probably never 99, but that was different.
00:10:28
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Across three owners, I have never seen such regular oil changes for a car. All owners did whatever is necessary. First owner even reported to the dealership at the 20K service that the driver's floor mat was wearing prematurely. It's not a Vandon plus, right? It's just a super V8. I think the thing that makes this one special is the supercharger.
00:10:58
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But the Vanden Plas is supercharged. Oh, and I don't know what I'm talking about. I honestly ruin. I don't know on this because there have been three supercharged ones have gone in the last. Year or so.
00:11:19
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The cheapest being 26,000 and it's a 90.
00:11:26
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oh You would think that this car with the way it sits would already be hired in 10,000, which is what makes it scary. You know, you know what I'm saying? Like you would think yeah so in terms of the game, you always know bidding low is safer than bidding high.
00:11:48
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I think. Twenty two. So I think I'm off on. Well, I guess something else. I don't know what else to get. That's the problem. I'm just throwing a number that first thing came to my mind with the one that went for twenty six. They're about the same in quality, except this one's a ninety nine. Yeah. So. And that one was blue as well. So it's a little different. Otherwise that's what I'm going with 22. I don't, I don't, I don't, I think it's wrong, but I couldn't tell you what number to put on it.
00:12:32
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It's your best guess. It's my best guess, yeah. Let's frame it positively. As we're going to be doing it later in this podcast, I recommend that you frame this positively. Okay, what am I guessing? Let's see what you got. All right, I'm gonna play a little game with you on this one. This one does end literally because we're doing a short week recording. This one ends right before our next one. So this will be fun, right? Right in the moment. Play a little 10 question or 10 hint game. See if you can guess the the car. For first one, U.S. made.
00:13:11
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okay
00:13:14
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Second hint made from 2000 to technically 2009.
00:13:22
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e the At the time of it being built, it would have cost $375,000. What? Oh, no. Or nine and a half billion Vietnamese dong. that it Now I'm confused. It weighs 1,300 kilograms. It's about 2,800 pounds.
00:13:47
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or the equivalent of 5.2 zebras. What are you doing? What is this? It has a seven liter twin turbocharged V8.
00:13:58
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Oh, it's ah so it's a twin turbo. Yep. It makes 750 horsepower and 700 pounds of torque. Only 75 were made. I think this specific one will be less. goes a zero to 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds. this Is this some sort of Corvette? No. And it is a forgotten Le Mans class winner. And Le Mans just happened last weekend for us.
00:14:30
Speaker
What in the world? I don't know. I have no clue what this is. So it won Le Mans in 2012 in the GT LM one class. This car that I'm looking at is 1100 mile 2005 Celine S seven oh turbo cop. Damn, I should have got that. This is the poster car that you would typically see in silver. This one is. what is so called it's it's a specific red live Liz stick red paint yes I said that right Liz stick yes 1100 miles twin turbo simulator v8 six-speed manual this thing is gorgeous
00:15:17
Speaker
This is the same seller of as as that vector from a few weeks back. It is sure is it is already at six, $680,000. So we're, we are encroaching the double mark here very quickly with two days to go. So I'm going to classic dot.com for this one for, for some comps here. They take great photos though. I think the only change I'd make with this car is the wheels. I'd rather go black on that color because my goodness, the the red paint with the black and red seats. Wow. So there were two. There were two twin turbo as sevens that went in mid 2021 for mid six fifties. One was six fifty one was six fifty five. Yeah. This is already one six a different.
00:16:15
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Why? Sure. I just, I don't think I've ever seen one in red to start. Well, there's only 76 of them ever made. so yeah So it's just different. This is gorgeous. I didn't realize these were in Le Mans. That's cool. Yeah. They, they were part of the GTLM LM one class and it struggled through its entire inception and finally one, one in the last year. So I got one question is... No, I don't. I don't even know. Oh, there was a 2003 red one that sold last year.
00:17:02
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different red though. So like here's here's my question. What if the company Celine cause have you heard what's happening with Celine recently? Yeah, I've been getting emails from them about investing in a new car. Yeah. Yeah. They're trying to raise money and it's super scammy sounding. It definitely sounds scammy because like, what do you get out of giving them money for ownership in the new Celine hypercar or whatever it is?
00:17:29
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I don't know. I haven't read it. They've been sending out those letters like the last three years. All right, so this one could could I will say be like a million dollars. Yeah. I was thinking like this could be a million dollar car, but is it really going to be that high or is it going to be like 750? Yeah, I couldn't tell you. Cause I wouldn't hope it's not inflated by like 50% in two years, three years 2005. So we're 19 years.
00:18:13
Speaker
I don't know. I could see it's iconic, dude. It's an iconic car. I think I'm going to go with with 780. OK. All right. Going up 100 G's in two days. Meanwhile, I'm giving you some stupid tiny dinky Jaguar. I saw this thing and I'm like, I have to I have to bring this one up. It's so gorgeous. It's the right color. It's low miles. You buy this thing to let it sit, unfortunately. it's ah its an art It's an art piece. Who says? Who says? I mean, I would drive it. I take it and run it against ah your boy's Huracan.
00:19:00
Speaker
Yeah, right. You get wall up, dude. I was like, yeah, it's kind of slow, actually. It's 2005, though, like that amount of horsepower for 2005. That's a lot. But think about how much more you could put into it now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dangerous thinking right there. Oh, yeah. That's that seven liter. You could. you could sit on it later you when you first said how big displacement this was i thought it was going to be a viper but then i realized you said to the turbo and i was like nope not a viper not a factory viper at least not a viper all right anything else on this on the car banter uh no no term no that that's it other than uh yay ferrari one and three at lamal
00:19:50
Speaker
Alright, let's eat here, meat and potatoes, second half. Today we're werere kind of repurposing some topics that we've gone over before, but more importantly, I just want us to sort of tell some relatable stories that will give our listeners a chance to just relate to how we are going about resolving hard experiences in our lives and how we're using them to help and inform and guide, and motivate through new hard times as they come up in our lives. so
00:20:34
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I kind of gave Dan a prompt and if it's okay with you, I would like to have you start on this one. And basically what we're going to do is we're going to talk about a difficult time in the past, a difficult story here, but how getting through that difficult experience has given us a new found strength and toolkit set of skills to get through life. So with that I'll leave it to you Dan Yeah, and I won't lie when I you know first read our outline and what Arun was asking for I actually kind of struggled with this at first because I i Unfortunately read his portion first which it's like man, you know Arun and I have a little bit of a different trajectory history and how things happen, you know Arun's been in a
00:21:31
Speaker
you know, they business mind longer than I have. So some of his examples that he will give are just a little bit further down the road than mine. So there are just some things that I haven't been able to experience just yet, but there are things, you know, as I was climbing the ladder that I can give kind of examples to of, This is how I got to where I am now. So the example that you know I want to give is the mundane data entry jobs of just no growth, just no
00:22:14
Speaker
There's no excitement to it and things aren't changing and you see them not changing. Well, how do you how do you change them? What what happens to your mindset? So most people that mindset you know makes them depressed, makes them not hungry, just kind of puts them in the going through the motions mindset. And for me. I don't know what clicked it, but i maybe it's because of my love for cars and me wanting more for me is I saw that there was no growth in some places and I saw that there was room to be better.
00:22:52
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And for me, if I wanted to break out of those mundane jobs and just being bored in quotation marks or burnt out from our last episode, I learned to be creative and kind of push the boundaries of you know, how do we experiment with sales and do incentives and do the extra projects? What are some products that we could sell? So I learned to be really creative and was able to harness those creative growth patterns over, you know, five years or so. And it helped, you know, upper level management here at ChromaHandsons recognize me as as as an employee that eventually became
00:23:41
Speaker
a minority partner who is now the director of operations and logistics. So now I get to use that creativity every day in trying to make processes better for everybody in the business and help them grow and be able to coach and do kind of the same thing that some of my mentors did with me with some people that I work with here. So that's kind of how I looked at this. Yeah. So I, you know, ah we've talked about your story a fair amount, but one of the words that comes to mind for, for what you just described there is you're the proof of what is possible. If you simply try rather than just do what everybody tells you to do in order to
00:24:35
Speaker
Check the box to become successful in that way yeah the the the is what it is mentality will never get you where you want it to be and and that is what it is in this case that i'm talking about is like. you should go to college in order to be able to get a good job. Yeah. Nope. Not required. Right. And yeah. So, so what was, what was the catalyst that pushed you from this is shit. This is boring. This is terrible too. I need to do something different about this. I think for me, it was just,
00:25:21
Speaker
I felt no drive to, to be into work. So like the catalyst for me is like, I i needed something to get me out of bed. And but why didn't you just, why didn't you just say, I need to quit and like find something that's, Oh yeah. And I actually had this conversation with one of the, uh, the board of directors here last week and she asked a similar question. And for me, Even though like I'm not a huge fan of chrome and black plastic overlays, it's not a product I'm super excited about. I do believe in the business and what it does and what it does for dealerships and what it does for some consumers that can't really afford you know the higher level trim style stuff. So for me, like I love doing that. I love educating and dealers and helping them make money.
00:26:12
Speaker
Even though they already make a ridiculous amount of money. So, so for me, like I believe in the business and and I do like it. I like the interaction with sales reps. I like the people in the office. So I love my boss. It came, it came back to the fact that your role, you saw a bigger picture, but you didn't see how you would fit into the growth of that bigger picture in that role. Right. So I guess I'll kind of close with this is
00:26:44
Speaker
Not only me, but my mentor, we both had to find ways to be creative within the Chrome enhancements universe to get the growth and to be recognized. We had to fit, we had to fit ourselves into the machine as new cogs. So that that's, you know, the best advice I could give anybody that's just kind of stuck in the mud, not knowing what to do is like create your own spot. Create your own spot. If. You find yourself in this situation because we've talked a lot about, you know, how to find and define your dream career and how to then go get that job and all that. In your case here, what you're basically saying is.
00:27:32
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You, you saw a foot in the door opportunity to something that you believed in. You got to know it better. You continue to believe in it, but you were really starting to hate life. Oh yeah. To a point, to a point where like it showed here and I got called out for it for, you know, being overly negative and, and like, it was, ah it was a problem and, and. it was you know totally on me. But once I got the groove of figuring out like what I wanted to do with it, I feel happier than ever. Yeah, and it it took that conscious effort of saying I need to be able to make myself into a functioning cog that's beyond just this tiny little piece of the puzzle. Right.
00:28:17
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yeah And that's easily replaceable and doing monotonous work and not really using your brain. I've been there for sure. Just not using the brain at all. Yeah. Pretty, pretty terrible. Oh yeah. Then distraction becomes way easier and you find yourself just wasting time. It's, it's just, it's not healthy. Yeah. All right. Well, here's how I'm going to start my story.
00:28:45
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take you back to June 13th, 2022. Oh boy. Two years ago, two years ago and two years and five days ago from this recording. So that was the day that I went into the shop that I co-owned at the time with a business partner. And I told my business partner that I think it was time that we parted ways. We had different visions of where we wanted to take the company. He wanted to run a small family business that had flexibility and he could bring his dog into work and he could have his girlfriend working with him. I wanted to grow a larger and more successful business that he was not interested in really taking the time or making the sacrifices to grow into. He founded the company.
00:29:36
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he had put in quite a lot of sacrifice and effort to get it to where it was. I came in, I think about four years after he started, but it was it was just a different mindset towards what the business was supposed to become. And so it was causing a ton of friction between us and the business was actually starting to struggle because I needed him to be you at a really high level. Which he didn't want to be at and I needed him there because We had taken on quite a lot of overhead in order to sustain support a bigger operation with a sales team and a manager and a bunch of staff and a bunch of software and marketing and all that stuff and
00:30:29
Speaker
I needed him to step up and be the technical leader that he should have been in that sort of an organization, but he was not interested in doing that. And so we had all this overhead and no new technical leadership coming in. And so we had no leadership and it meant we weren't getting cars back out again and we were losing money. So. That was a bad day. that was ah That was a catalyst of a day there where I basically went in and said, I think we're done here. Let's part ways. And I had proposed a certain structure by which that was supposed to happen. And that is that was something that he wanted to consider and take some time to consider. And so I wrote it up, handed it to him, and I left that day.
00:31:16
Speaker
Is that shop still there? Yep. Is it still operating? It it did survive. Okay. It survived all of this. Yeah. So that began four months of the highest stress negotiation of my whole life. I had a ton of external things going on at the same time as this in the rest of my life. I had to fly, and this is such a first world problem, but I had to fly to Romania and Mexico for two different weddings that were... Oh, I remember that. These weddings were a week apart. I had just crashed my M4.
00:31:57
Speaker
yeah And as a result of crashing the M4, plus all the stress and hotel room beds and long flights, I also experienced the worst back injury of my entire life. Man, that feels like that was ages ago. well it wast It kind of was. I mean, kind of, but it really wasn't. A lot of shit's happened since then. I don't remember that vividly. So so i I got crushed. June and July of 2022 was one of the most stressful periods of my life. And as we got into August and September and October, it did get a little bit better, but I had this negotiation hanging over me for the better part of four months.
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm pretty sure like you got COVID somewhere in there too. I probably got sick. I definitely did not get COVID. Oh yeah. Yeah. But okay. So what was happening? Credit card debt was going through the roof in that company and the credit cards were personally guaranteed by myself. Oh oh boy. I was struggling to make any progress in the negotiation because the only time that my business partner would actually get back to me was in the middle of the night. And so it would basically be one small exchange every day, just like one email back and forth or one text message back and forth. And that would be it. And they would basically be me sending something in the morning, him sending something that night, me waking up to it, reacting to it.
00:33:32
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And that is one of the worst possible scenarios to find yourself in where you were waking up with the dread of knowing that there is a yeah stressful message waiting for you. You're going to sleep with the stress. Yeah. ah why Why was it that way? what How did it work out? Because I left. I stopped participating in the day-to-day operations. yeah And he was he had to step up in a really big way. at that time because i thought this whole thing was going to take two weeks yeah and that there was going to be an amicable separation and here we were and so basically it it was just this really painful situation of having to wake up every day to some sort of
00:34:20
Speaker
message from him that was basically accusing me of stealing money from the business Accusing me of not contributing as much as I thought I had ah him Requesting additional information and all the passwords and all this stuff But at the same time you look how much debt you have me in with these credit cards Well, he was he was saying that that was my fault and and basically to explain that part of the situation a bit and We had agreed that I would not take actual compensation from the business, but that I could use the business for certain expenses. that were yeah yeah and And I did do that. That was exactly what happened. But it could definitely be said that I spent too much money. Yeah. I know. I remember the deal now. Yeah.
00:35:11
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So that that was part of the part of the deal here. And so what ended up happening was he asked me for a buyout offer. And I basically said, look, I acknowledge that I overspent in lieu of a buyout. How about we just both cleanse our hands of this and say no money needs to be exchanged and we can go about our ways or separate ways. so So eventually we arrived at that conclusion, but it took basically four months at which point we did pay off the credit cards. I was able to close those credit cards, get my name out of the business. I changed. I did all the legal filings that needed to be done to change ownership and I returned the keys.
00:35:55
Speaker
In that same month, I found myself personally in a very bad financial pi situation. I had maxed out my personal credit cards, I had zero money in the bank, and I was actually at the rock bottom of my personal business financial situation, because I still had driven performance advisors at that time. They say that the best entrepreneurs hit a rock bottom somewhere. Yes.
00:36:22
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basically suffering so much from that stress that I was being really stupid with different business moves that I was making. And I tried to start two other things at the same time and invested more money into that. And basically just and ended up blowing a bunch of money on wasteful things and made it nowhere and ended up having at the end of the day, no money. and needed to acknowledge that I should probably focus on the consulting work. I picked up a significant amount of work from Schwartz Advisors and thus began my elevation back into profitability has a as an individual business owner.
00:37:10
Speaker
But those four months were really fucking bad. That was horrible suffering the whole time. I was constantly preoccupied. I was not able to have any fun in my life. I woke up with dread every single day. But, but why is this a good thing? Why do I want to talk about this? Every single negotiation, financial difficulty, lawsuit, employee issue that came after that has been easy. It's been extremely easy. And the amount of skin thickening that happened during this time where I was being threatened with a lawsuit, I thought I was going to have to declare bankruptcy. I didn't know where any money was going to come from.
00:38:04
Speaker
I realize that what you have to do is just to get through it I realize that emotionally I had to better manage my situation so that I wasn't being impulsive I wasn't falling into desperation I could actually be present with my loved ones during this time. There was a lot that I had to improve upon and that I had to learn about and this was by far the highest stress situation I had found myself in up to this point in my business. And it was ridiculous. It was horrible. But at the end of the day, it actually worked itself out. Like it wasn't this miraculous, huge amount of, you know, God shot or luck or skill or genius or anything like that. It was just a grind of negotiating that basically said, this is what we are going to do.
00:38:59
Speaker
And this is the only option that works for both of us. And that was what we were able to agree upon. And so what I learned at the end of the day is business is something you have to game. Business is something you can win. And that is how you do it. Because if I hadn't won that, what would it have looked like? I would have defaulted on credit card debt. I would have gotten sued. I would have destroyed multiple companies. This was something we had to hold together this way. And I'm not going to say that this is going to be the most stressful situation I ever encounter. I hope it's not. I hope that I get into some way higher stakes shit in my life than how much money this was over. But I know that I will be able to survive it based on this experience where I felt physically like I was falling apart.
00:39:58
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but I was able to get through it. Well, that's the whole part of going through something challenging. Now you can learn from it. can It's easier next time. You can teach other people. Like if I have a problem, I guess I'm gonna ask you now. but if you How did you do this? It's basically, well, I hope you do, but also... But also it's a matter of yeah whether you whether you find yourself super bored again and you realize you're in a rut and you need to get out of it. You know how to you know how to do that. If I find myself in a really nasty lawsuit divorce type situation, which I hope I don't,
00:40:35
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ah considering I have no business partners now and I'm happily married, but just in case something like that ever happens again, I know how to handle it. I know what it will take. I know that I can bring a less emotional version of myself to the table to be successful and win that situation. And it may seem like the worst thing in the world that you are going through, but trust me, your only option is to be able to survive it. whether it's boredom, whether it's high stress, whether it's all of those issues we just listed. That's the only thing you can do because once you're on the other side of it, you will be able to believe in yourself in a way you never ever could before. So now I like, I know for you that it's going to be very difficult for you to ever get to that place again, where you're not able to innovate.
00:41:32
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I don't wanna be in that place again. Yeah. It puts you puts your brain in a dark place. And and so youre you your only option is going to be to ruthlessly become better all the time. Yeah. That's a good place to be. Yeah. And it took it took going through the suffering and not quitting to get there. Right. not being burnt out. That's about as wholesome. and what What are you talking about? That's right. What ah what a wholesome and cliche way to wrap up that message. I like it. I do too. All right.
00:42:12
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I think that's all we got for today. Do you have anything else? No, sir. I want to mention, I think we're good here. That S7's going for a million bucks. That Jaguar is going for 50 grand.
00:42:27
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We'll see. If they put a twin turbo on it, it would go for a million bucks also. If that thing goes for 50 grand, I'm not showing my face again. I'm done. Oh boy. All right. Well, that's all we got for today. So we appreciate you listening. This has been a rude and Dan and until next time, stay driven.