Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Keeper (2025)
126 Plays3 months ago
Rick & Trav tackle Osgood Perkins' new folk horror KEEPER, his third collaboration with Neon in two years. We discuss movie theatre etiquette, 1950's needle drops, and whether chocolate cake is overrated, underrated, or perfectly rated.
(00:00) - Banter
(6:02) - Teasing the Annual Spooky Awards Episode
(7:17) - Intro / Theatre Experience / Overall Thoughts
(22:27) - Analysis
(28:18) - Production Notes
(32:49) - Casting
(39:01) - Scare-o-Meter Rating
(39:43) - Highlights / Spoilers after this point!
(42:31) - Deep Cuts
(46:44) - Awards
(01:22:18) - Outro / Coming Up Next
Recommended
Transcript
Love and Relationships: The Strange Beginning
00:00:04
Speaker
Love, love is strange. Lot of people take it for a game. Once you get it, you never want to quit.
Reconnecting Over Films: Osgood Perkins
00:00:45
Speaker
All right, we're back. Rick, how you doing, man? I'm good, dude. Back up for another Osgood Perkins feature film here. Ozzy, Ozzy, we're
Hotel Woes in Montana: Rick's Frustrations
00:00:57
Speaker
back.
00:00:57
Speaker
Do you notice anything ah different? Different.
00:01:04
Speaker
I mean, it is a different film than Long Legs. Yes. Oh, your background. Is this a new hotel room? Upgrade, baby. Nice. Your last week here in ah Montana, I decided to fall out.
00:01:18
Speaker
I pushed for this. Okay. they didn't does It doesn't matter how many times you ask, they will not clean your room. They will not do it. I asked i asked four times within three weeks. Excuse every time. ah The third time I said, and I'm not going to say, I'll just say his name is Jeffrey.
00:01:34
Speaker
Jeffrey. And I know it's not your fault, man. I know I've just been asking so many times, but I just want to come home with just some nice new towels. Oh, yeah, Rick. I'm sorry. The GM said they would do this and that. Okay, thanks.
00:01:45
Speaker
I get there. ah come back down. He's like, please tell me good news. And I was like, Jeffrey, I'm moving out.
Montana Love Story: Rick's Newfound Romance
00:01:54
Speaker
I'll talk to production for now. I'm going over to across the way to stay with my...
00:02:01
Speaker
maya
00:02:04
Speaker
Stay with somebody I fell in love with, Travis. I don't give a shit. I'll shout off the rooftop. Who cares? I'm not going to name, but I ah did fall in love out here, okay? And now I'm staying at her hotel across And not with her. No, no. Okay. that is We're trying to avoid the enmeshment. We understand NRE, new relationship energy.
00:02:19
Speaker
We understand we're in a very beautiful place, and it's this like fake fake world. So we're trying to put in guardrails to not... ah Prevent us from falling in too deep too fast. But she is across the hall for me now.
00:02:33
Speaker
Awesome. Yeah. Turn down service can be finicky. And sometimes when that you have that long stay,
Humor in Hotel Cleanliness and Filming Stories
00:02:40
Speaker
it's tough. But who's who's making your room dirty in the first place? Like is someone coming in there and trashing it? And that's why you need it cleaned up so badly?
00:02:47
Speaker
Well, that's me. I'm the one who lives there. I'm the problem. It's me. Hi, it's me. I'm the problem. No, it's yeah me and the little dirty devils inside me. ah But now it's good. I like that you... I like that I talked about love and the first thing you ask about is my dirty room.
00:03:04
Speaker
That's right. Well, it was a lot of like, yeah, they're not cleaning up after me. I don't know what's wrong. And you honestly sound like how I assume my toddlers vent to each other when they're like, yeah, mom and dad didn't put for police tonight. I'm working like 14 hours a day. don't have time to get the new towels and...
00:03:19
Speaker
So you're wrapping up here up in Montana. Wrapping up. Last week. Last week. Hanging out with Kurt. Dude. I think he just wrapped filming his parts. Yeah. I believe.
00:03:30
Speaker
He wrapped, Kurt Russell wrapped Montana today. But yeah, we're not done filming. We still have to go to back to my neck of the woods in DFW. Only of which two days Kurt will be filming. So today was my third to last day with him.
00:03:43
Speaker
And it was a very cool time. um You know, I could list off a zillion stories. I'll just tell you one because he is a man of stories.
00:03:55
Speaker
He had moved to Aspen, Colorado 1977 in his twenties. And he, and he He was there when Ted Bundy escaped, Travis, the first time he escaped. Do you remember this?
00:04:08
Speaker
I mean, he went alive. did not realize Ted Bundy had multiple escapes. Yes, he jumped out a window. Then ah week later, Kurt's out at some party in the woods, and he's taking a pee.
00:04:20
Speaker
He sees somebody moving in the in the woods, and they're going towards like a tent, or they're going towards a place where they had food set up for this party. And Kirk kind of looks at him and the guy looks at him and the guy runs away.
00:04:35
Speaker
And so that's weird. Three days later, Bundy gets caught. And in the papers, he says, yeah, I was just stealing food wherever I went. And, uh, but the third night I was looking around and I saw this guy in the woods looking at me.
00:04:52
Speaker
And, uh, and I, so I split, so I was hungry that night and I was like, Wait, you prevented Ted Bundy from eating a meal that night? He's like, that fucker didn't eat shit.
00:05:04
Speaker
All right, little Kurt Russell, Ted Bundy crossover. here I was not expecting that. That's incredible. Good stories. that's ah That is ah an example of many that he's told, but ah something a bit more heartwarming I was in his trailer, like putting stuff away and he and his makeup artists are like best friends. They've known him for 35 years and they cracked open some beers and I was about to get out to give them some privacy just to hang out. And then Kurt goes, Rick, you want a beer? And I tried to play it cool. I was like, ah, yeah, sure. Okay.
00:05:37
Speaker
And dude, we just chatted about movies and beer and romance and ah stuff for like an hour. and And he just said all these really nice things about me. And he was like, you remind me of I think he's like, if we were our 20s and 30s, we would have ran around together a lot. I think and i think you would have gotten in trouble.
00:05:54
Speaker
I was like, Kurt, knowing your stories, I think you would have me in trouble. ah So it was just it was cool. It was cool sharing a beer with Kurt and he said some nice things. That's awesome. I love it. I love it. Well, before we jump into it, some housekeeping.
Introducing 'The Spookies' Awards
00:06:08
Speaker
We've teased this a few times, but we are nearing the end of 2025. And so with that, we are going to have our first horror award show, The Spookies. This is where a lot of the categories and awards you hear within the episode, how scary movies are, the best jump scares, the best line, so on and so forth.
00:06:28
Speaker
We want to recognize the whole slew of films that came out in 2025 for horror, or at least, you know, we've between the two of us will be 35 plus films that we've seen. And we need to start getting our nominations together here. And we need to start thinking about what films really stand out.
00:06:43
Speaker
So we are gonna make a push to share with you guys, our listeners, and solicit your feedback. So if you don't already follow us, especially on Instagram, We would highly encourage you to follow us there so we can start sharing our different awards and categories, and then we can ask for your nominations.
00:07:01
Speaker
So make sure to give us a follow. And we're excited to have that episode.
First Impressions of 'Keeper' by Osgood Perkins
00:07:05
Speaker
i think that'll be our last ep of the year right before the Christmas, New Year's slew of holidays. We're dressing up. Right. I'm i'm wearing a three piece.
00:07:13
Speaker
It's a big production. yeah um Well, this is the Sunday Scaries. I'm Travis Telerik. I'm Ricky Townsend. Today we are covering Osgood's newest release, three in two years, Mr. Perkins, with his newest film, Keeper, that we just saw opening night for the Thursday preview, and we are also recording that same Thursday night. So we are... I think this is the freshest we've ever been out of a movie. Dude, this is... I am still typing up some of my awards right now, so this is...
00:07:45
Speaker
The best lines, don't even know if this is Acrylion the film. My chicken scratch, my notes, doesn't even... We were leaving the theater just over an hour ago. So we are doing a tight turnaround here to have this episode come out the Sunday of its release weekend, following up on Longlegs at 24, and then The Monkey at the start of the Sierra.
00:08:03
Speaker
But for people who don't know what Keeper is about, Rick, do you want to tell us what this...
Plot and Genre Exploration of 'Keeper'
00:08:10
Speaker
logline a romantic anniversary trip to a secluded cabin turns sinister when a dark presence reveals itself, forcing a couple to confront the property's haunting past.
00:08:21
Speaker
Would you consider this a haunted house movie? Yeah, I think it could get grouped in. All of the haunting and it is some paranormal bits to it. And I hope that wasn't a big spoiler.
00:08:36
Speaker
It is. I was just trying not to over-spoil. And it's all taking place at the house or the grounds around the house. so I think that squarely fits into a haunted house movie, right? Yeah.
00:08:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's more about the entities with, I mean, it says, right. And it says dark presence. That's why I felt like it was okay to say this, but yeah. Uh, yeah. I think it's it's like it's not a squarely haunted house. You know, we've made that list one time and we got pretty clinical about it. And like there's a line, right? there's If the house itself is haunted versus if the house is the center of like some evil things happening.
00:09:12
Speaker
In this case, I think it's that second category where like it's they are attached to that place. So therefore, the place is kind of haunted. But it's more about the things there and it just happens to be in the house. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so this is following up Long Legs was more of a police procedural thriller.
00:09:27
Speaker
The Monkey was like a cursed object, but you know it's kind of over-the-top deaths, like Final Destination, in a lot of different locations. And this one's really...
00:09:37
Speaker
99% of the film is taking place at this home and the grounds around it other than just a little bit of exposition at the very beginning. So yeah, I think yeah that tracks. Well, I wanted to tell you specifically that when I went to the theater, I tried your sit in the back row so I can take notes on my phone.
00:09:54
Speaker
Well, it didn't fucking work because people sat like five seats away from me and I didn't have my backpack to hide the glare of my phone. But I'll tell you what, double reason why I could not do that is that three rows in front of me was teenager, a whole thing of teenagers, like probably eight of them. And, you know, good for them to go to the movies.
00:10:15
Speaker
Got learn their etiquette, man. God, i hate I hate to be a guy on the lawn. This girl was... texting on her phone from the moment the the title drop came, like shows neon pictures, yeah shows, up you know, whatever it is. I think Osgood Perkins, of a film Osgood Perkins.
00:10:34
Speaker
I'm like, okay, maybe they'll stop texting after the the initial credits. Then the movie starts and it's a montage of these women looking in the camera, still texting. I'm like, okay, maybe once dialogue starts. No.
00:10:45
Speaker
So I finally go out of my seat, down the stairs, around the front, up the other stairs, and then turned into the row behind this this these teens.
00:10:58
Speaker
And I was just like, hey, I'm really sorry to bother you, but your phone is super distracting. Can you put it away, please? And she like, Oh man, you called them out. Oh, I do this sometimes, dude. I'm not, I'm not sitting there for two hours while there's a glare somewhere, you know? Okay.
00:11:12
Speaker
So I sit back down and she was like, Oh yeah, I'm sorry. It was fine. It was, it was really fine. But the best part of it was I go back to my seat and the guy in front of me turns around. He's like, dude, big thumbs up, like thick. you so much.
00:11:25
Speaker
I felt like the theater hero. I was like not on my block, not in my auditorium, but now you can understand there was no way I could pull my phone out now. I could not pull my phone out even once. Extremely hypocritical. Yes, like here's this guy with these so-called morals and I believe yeah not rules for thee, but not for me.
00:11:44
Speaker
So aside from that, it was great. 20 people. I think we were all kind of beguiled by it, ah but it was interesting to watch it with a bunch of strangers who I think were all trying to figure out what the fuck was going on. Yeah, I rarely see evening showings for these horror films, these new releases. I go see it Friday morning when there's no one in the theater.
00:12:02
Speaker
So it was fun to have a slightly fuller house. I mean, there was, yeah, 20 plus people in my theater. And you actually get the like real horror reactions. There's
Surreal Style and Cinematic Comparisons
00:12:11
Speaker
certainly scenes, especially in this movie where people are exclaiming, you get the, oh no, oh no, oh no. Like I ah love that, right? That's the fun part about seeing horror in the theater is people literally can't contain themselves and they have to exclaim when something scares them.
00:12:24
Speaker
um What'd you think about the film? This is raw, we're just coming out of it, but you know, let me know your thoughts. We've been watching lot of Perkins. We really liked Long Legs.
00:12:36
Speaker
i i thought I didn't know that ah Big Cat from Barstool Sports could act so well. I mean, it looks weird to see him without PFT Cometor on there, but there's even look exactly like Big Cat.
00:12:51
Speaker
And then he had to go save Mrs. Portnoy. Yes, yes. He threw in his boss's name in there. I'm not going with that. That is... ah All I could think about. All I could think about. Good actor. I love this guy. You'll talk about him in casting, ah I assume, but ah that was Big Cat to me.
00:13:06
Speaker
It was just like Big Cat with a different accent. Yeah. um Because this is the freshest of freshest, I literally got to my hotel room, took 10 minutes of notes, and now we're here. So this is super raw.
00:13:21
Speaker
um this feels like This feels like his, and in the same way that Alex Garland had his men release. Mm-hmm.
00:13:32
Speaker
A folk horror, smaller scale, gendered movie with not a lot of answers and a bonkers third act. This felt very much in that vein.
00:13:43
Speaker
I wonder had I gone high, I would have liked this movie more or understood it more. Like it's so surreal and has so many different features.
00:13:53
Speaker
cutaways and superimpositions of like waterfalls and things that happened a long time ago. whole lot of B-roll of ah flowing water here. I think they might have been a little too heavy handed there with how much water they featured.
00:14:07
Speaker
Yeah, I talked to... There's two guys after the movie. i you know any Anytime I go alone to a film, it is fun to like... talk to some people about what they thought just as to get some things out. And we all three commented on that. We were just like a lot of water going on. Like a lot of water. I understand when you bring it back to water a few times, but this was like every five minutes. all right. Cut to another shot of it like a babbling brook.
00:14:35
Speaker
Like we go to water. We need a transition scene. Do you think maybe big water was involved in the financing of this film? The Saudis just like, all right, come on, guys. we People are drinking these sodas. They're drinking the LaCroix. People still drinking those. yeah i I say this tongue-in-cheek, but dude, the last studio I worked at, STX Entertainment, was partly funded and ran by Bob Simons, who was like a water...
00:15:07
Speaker
ah Baron in the US. He has a bunch of water rights. That's how he made his billions. So in that case, water did make movies flow. He takes a straw and drinks your milkshake.
00:15:18
Speaker
I drink your water shake. um i and and I know you did a lot of production notes, so i'm not going step on it, but I'm going I think it's worth mentioning because it'll tap into how I felt about the movie.
00:15:30
Speaker
I think this movie plays much better and will be received more warmly. If you go in knowing that this was like a little side project nestled between long legs and monkey, the monkey,
00:15:42
Speaker
Because it is really small. It is a small movie. It is it is a small cast, one location. Small budget. Very small. I mean, they they did it because of the writer's strike in 2023. And i do want to correct the record a little bit.
00:15:56
Speaker
I think on the last episode on Long Legs, I said that they made the monkey before Long Legs. Not entirely true. He wrote the monkey first. Then got funding to do long legs and then was about to go into the monkey, which you I'm sure you'll talk about. And then they strike and then keep her. But I had said before that, oh, he made the monkey first. That's not, he developed it first, but long legs came out first.
00:16:20
Speaker
Definitely creepy tonality. I wish it didn't make me wait an hour and 15 minutes to actually tell me what was going on. um I felt myself being like, okay, I get it. There's something creepy happening, but like this can't buy you that much equity here. Like I need, I need more.
00:16:34
Speaker
I need more of that. um So yeah, that was my, that's my initial. I I'm still working through it. going to talk about on this pod. I mean, there's things I liked, there's things I didn't yeah don't love it. Don't hate it.
Perkins' Tension and Writing Weaknesses
00:16:46
Speaker
So here's my short list of watching a few Osgood Perkins films, what he does well generally, but also what he does well in this movie. Perkins knows how to scare you.
00:16:59
Speaker
Similar to James Wan. I think he is very good at directing and building up scary moments that make you jump, make you cover your eyes. i think the monster really in this movie, you you get to see it near the end and it is scary.
00:17:13
Speaker
Like he does not miss there where I feel like a lot of horror films, when you actually see whatever the entity is, it's like, okay, I get it. It's kind of a stand in. um So he does a really good job scaring.
00:17:24
Speaker
i think... the third act of this film. It takes a while to get there, like you're saying, and to understand what's going on in it. But I thought the third act was a good pickup and a good way to end the film.
00:17:36
Speaker
And i think he has some really fun needle drops. His music choice, we'll talk about in our deep cuts, but there's some good pick-me-ups there as well. I think what has me the most mixed or even critical of this film, Perkins did not write this film himself like he did with Long Legs, like he did with The Monkey.
00:17:57
Speaker
And i think that shows because this screenwriting and maybe some of the performance as well was really tough. I like to think of there's a no man's land in horror you typically don't want to land in. It's either you are trying to be a more self-serious horror film, being more realistic, and because of that, you try to make the dialogue you know more believable, more engaging. You feel like this is really happening.
00:18:25
Speaker
That's on one side of spectrum. On the other side is parody camp, you know, people are saying just playing into the tropes, right? It's tongue in cheek, wink, wink, na nod nod.
00:18:36
Speaker
Everyone knows that, you know, this isn't really how things would happen in real life. And there's this big chasm in between the two where if you're not choosing one lane or the other, it just feels really flat.
00:18:51
Speaker
Like a lot of the, a lot of how the plot comes about and the dialogue I'm just like, okay, I guess. like Sure, that makes sense.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, it it felt to me indicative of the problems I have Longlegs, which is like, let's just make things creepy for the first two thirds and not you lot information.
00:19:17
Speaker
and then give you a bunch of information, almost like an exposition dump in the third act, which... Again, I like the third act. It gave me something to chew on, but I wish it take that. Yeah, like the third act of this film as well. That was my favorite part.
00:19:28
Speaker
I think the first two getting there was just really clunky. Not just clunky, it was just slow. like i mean It was so derivative of any other movie where you're trying to like, any other haunted house movie. where you Yeah, okay, I get it. There's something creepy going on.
00:19:44
Speaker
And then when things are out of the ordinary, just beyond your normal creaks and shadows and you see entities, there's, what am I supposed to do with that? Like there' that she's hallucinating. i don't know.
00:19:55
Speaker
Um, I want to assume people listening to this are deciding if they still want to see this movie. And so if you're not somebody who wants to go in blind, but you want to know a bit, Basically, this guy is dating this woman. So their name is... Rasa Sutherland, who's playing Malcolm. Like Malcolm. Is dating Tatiana Maslany, who's playing Liz.
00:20:14
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Boyfriend, girlfriend, hitting a one-year anniversary. She's very distrusting of... Or not very,
Themes of Love, Trust, and Safety in 'Keeper'
00:20:20
Speaker
but she's a little cautious about this guy. It seems too good to be true. He's and a successful doctor and...
00:20:25
Speaker
Her friend on the other line of the phone that she intermittently calls throughout the movie is giving her shit, saying, oh you're a kept woman. like He's got a wife and stuff in the city. and so It's a pink herring. not going to call it a red herring because I don't think for one second anybody watching this movie ever believed this guy had a second family. We knew something else was going on. Yeah. um and it Sorry, if I stay on that point, like you clearly know he has a secret. He's not sharing with her right right from the jump.
00:20:50
Speaker
Which I don't know if I love that or not because they still try to build in a reveal later. Yes. And it just falls flat because you're like, yes, of course. Like, clearly clearly he was not telling her the truth.
00:21:02
Speaker
He was not forthcoming with her. Like, There's no real... I mean, i will say the the leading the inclusion of his cousin Darren, who seems to be fun at parties... Yeah, the wild card. you do you It makes you question his culpability and and malice, and is this something he's been roped into?
00:21:22
Speaker
So do I do like... There is a bit of ambiguity there, but yes, you know there's a secret. um And yeah, the whole movie takes place in a cabin. They're there on their one-year anniversary, and... um Yeah, it involves ah her consuming some food that may or may not have been giving her some hallucinations.
00:21:41
Speaker
ah And that's all I'll say until we get to spoilers. so But um i want I do want to say something that did make me feel, though. is because I was trying to I was wrestling and drive with like why he made this movie. Like why? and Like what? I know why business wise he did. Cause he wanted, he wanted to give his, it was really nice. Strike pause production on the monkey.
00:22:02
Speaker
Yeah. But it's just pretty cool that most directors just sit on their cash and, and just fuck off for a bit. But he was like, no, I want to keep these people employed. And I thought that was a really cool, ah motivation to make the movie is to keep people employed and they found and you criticized the writing but they had to find a non-WGA writer so not the whole yeah the whole crew and cast are all they're all Canadians I mean we'll get into it but they're not SAG-AFTRA members that's how they were able to bring them all in so I was trying to think like why make this movie and what inside of Perkins was percolating what was percolating what was Perkins percolating
00:22:38
Speaker
And what I felt was like, and maybe this is Trav, just to be transparent, maybe it's because I am, you know, having those feelings of love and and with somebody new, especially when you get older and we're, you know we're both in our late thirties.
00:22:52
Speaker
Are we late now? Are we mid? i guess we're mid. We're not, we're not late for another year, one more year until we're late. um You do start to question, is this real? What is the other shoe going to drop?
00:23:04
Speaker
ah what's behind this person because you know you have all these good feelings but like who are they and so that was a feeling I had i also had this feeling of like you know because the movie starts with a series of women looking into the camera and they're initially happy and then by the end of their little vignette they're not happy I started thinking like, is this a movie about like just the exhaustion of, of, of being used as being love bombed, I guess, you know, there's that allegation of people going out there on dating apps and like,
00:23:35
Speaker
basically having a kink of like falling in love and then discarding their partners once that feeling goes away. Like just riding the high of those endorphins and new relationship energy. So- Yeah. those Love is blind if you've seen that.
00:23:48
Speaker
I haven't seen, i have your your references are ah really missing me right now. ah but ah But yeah, What about you? Did you feel like that? I agree with that, right? It's this... it's And we've seen this in horror movies before. It's this sense of women have this extra burden that oftentimes women don't have. who do who who What's a wo woman?
00:24:14
Speaker
I am still correct. The rest of the country is wrong in how they pronounce that word. Way too much respect to that O. The females...
00:24:25
Speaker
in general, shoulder a burden that males typically don't. In heterosexuals. When they are looking at a partner, oftentimes they're not just looking for their romantic connection, but do I feel safe with this person?
00:24:39
Speaker
And so that is the theme it touches on where there's clearly a romantic connection there, but she begins to question Liz, our our main character, our point of view character begins to question her safety as she's spending this you know weekend retreat away at this cabin in the woods with Malcolm.
00:24:57
Speaker
yeah And so that makes sense. I've seen it before. i thought it was done... decently well um i i like it i mean it's it's a yeah it's a used trope in horror but one that i i think still works right it's not too well i think i think safety is a good word to use because it's kind of twofold um and like we've like i said earlier this is a very gendered movie this is centered around tropes that you see a lot in heterosexual relationships uh where um a
00:25:29
Speaker
woman is starting not to feel just unsafe physically, but am i do I feel safe spending more time with this person as I get older?
00:25:40
Speaker
And, you know, in this case, I guess the biological clock does not matter because she doesn't want to have kids, but it's more so just like, is this another loser that is per pretending to be somebody else? Like, do I feel safe identity wise? Do I feel safe?
00:25:53
Speaker
Like, ah am I going to be embarrassed or shamed again because I thought this person was something that they were not? ah which I felt a lot. um There's, you know, similar to long legs, but this one's a bit more overt.
00:26:06
Speaker
There are things and images and in some cases entities that are slowly making their way towards our protagonist. And tension was an all time high at some point. Yeah. There's more of those. There's more jump scares than long legs too. Like this is truly like a movie.
00:26:23
Speaker
aimed to scare you in the more James Wan sense or I guess, you know, like even like slasher type sense where they like to fit in the jump scares where long legs is more.
00:26:36
Speaker
I don't know if I'd call it psychological horror, but gives you a little more to to chew on more dread, right? That's scaring you than than just things popping out. I think literally in this movie, there's one scene a jump scare where one of the characters just steps into room and goes, boo, it was somewhat scary. It made me react.
00:26:57
Speaker
I, uh, there was another movie I thought of aside from men and it's a movie that came out this year, ah that you and I both watched out of Japan, but best wishes for all. And the reason I thought about it, and again, big plug for that one, Travis, you've made it clear that, you know, you would only recommend it to like,
00:27:13
Speaker
big cinephiles who aren't into maybe as much art house horror. And I think I probably agree with that. it is not your standard horror fare. is a thinker. it is, it is bizarre. It is like more, more art house, less the people looking for a casual horror are movie experience.
00:27:26
Speaker
But, uh, in that case, and I think this movie does it, that movie best wishes for all does it better than this one in that something is off and you're seeing the consequences and results of that thing being off, whether it be for our protagonists or side characters,
00:27:42
Speaker
And then towards the end, it it started to explain why these things are happening and you you get kind of the lore dump. um I felt that structure was similar here. And and maybe that's not saying much because a lot of movies do this, but I'm just thinking of two off the top my head that came out this year that like had that similar structure where they just give you weird shit and you're supposed to sit there and be like, okay, well, what? Yeah.
00:28:08
Speaker
And then it's like, okay, that's why this is happening. Yeah, and it's best wishes to all, not for all. Oh, sorry. we do want everyone to have those best wishes. Right, was speaking to my audience.
00:28:19
Speaker
All right, well, should we get into production notes? Let's do it.
Production Insights: Filming 'Keeper'
00:28:22
Speaker
All right, so like you said, ah unique film for Perkins because it was kind of slotted in between production of you know put the The Monkey while he was working on that.
00:28:34
Speaker
Um, because of that, this is the third film he's done with neon. He did long legs, the monkey and keeper all in neon. This was a very small budget relative even to the others. This was reported less than $8 million dollars that he made this for.
00:28:51
Speaker
Again, this was going on during the SAG after a strike is when he began production on this. And so to get around, you know, the, the unions for the, for the trades, he,
00:29:02
Speaker
got a lot of Canadians and and that's really where he gets his writer. That's where, you know, the entirety of the cast is Canadian or at least the three lead roles are all Canadian. and And so, like you said, it it feels like a smaller film, really one set location, small budget.
00:29:18
Speaker
um yeah And you can feel that. And then I think the same goes for the box office predictions. They're fairly modest. um I'm seeing box office theory projecting one and a half to three and a half million for its opening weekend domestic gross.
00:29:33
Speaker
So that's, you know, it's not the huge viral over the top marketing campaign like we saw for long legs. It may not make its money back. Yeah, well, I mean, it's it's super early. like so I know, but if it's 1.5, you said 1.5? It's the 3.5.
00:29:49
Speaker
Oh, okay. oh okay All right, it might. if If it's on the higher end, because you know most horror films have a multiplier of about 3x. So if it made $1 million, dollars which I don't think it will, I think it'll make more than that.
00:30:03
Speaker
Let's say it's made $2 million. 2 million open a weekend, three x multiply, that's only six. You're not even meeting your budget yet. So this thing is, I think it is in trouble of losing money. The good thing is they probably didn't spend much on marketing because it's so... I was i was surprised that my theater out here in Bozeman, Montana even had it.
00:30:21
Speaker
um I'm curious. Why doesn't this film, this horror film, get released in October? Why do they slate it and until November when, know, October is peak season for scary movies? And we didn't really get that many scary movie releases in October.
00:30:37
Speaker
What, we got Black Phone 2, and that was... That was it, really. Or I guess the limited release of Frankenstein. You'd be surprised. I mean, October isn't typically a huge movie-going month. People are busy. It was horrible this year.
00:30:49
Speaker
It was the worst month. Right. But I'm saying, I think i think you and consider October a spooky month for when you re-watch older movies, but the box office has never been... i mean, they'll they'll pepper in some of them sometimes. Summer, the summer scares is like when you get a lot of your thrillers and stuff like that because people are free to go to them and they go in big groups. But as far as this one, honestly, they probably just want to stay away from competition.
00:31:12
Speaker
They're just trying to, you know, put it in a in a month where they don't have other horror films, even though there wasn't a lot of big hitters in October. they There still was. you know, a movie each weekend that would compete with this one, I would think. Yeah. yeah um But yeah, so pretty modest box office predictions. If it's way off that mark, we can clarify in our next episode where they land.
00:31:35
Speaker
um So yeah, again, Osgood Perkins, we talk a lot about him in our Long Legs episode. So go listen to that if you have not already watched He just directed this one, like we mentioned near the top of the episode.
00:31:49
Speaker
He brought in Nick Leppard, a Canadian, a Canuck. A scab. and Fucking scab. um which is Which is notable because Nick Leppard also wrote Dangerous Animals, which was another 2025 horror release.
00:32:04
Speaker
guess I'm not a big Nick Leppard guy. well I like that one. I think, again, Dangerous Animals, it's a it's a simple story, maybe kind of akin to Keeper. And the more i think about it now, I know I've critiqued somewhat the screenwriting for this one in Keeper.
00:32:20
Speaker
I think maybe what differentiates my views on this film from Dangerous Animals, the other film he wrote, is that Jai Courtney in Dangerous Animals is an absolute powerhouse.
00:32:30
Speaker
I love his performance. I think we vary a bit in how well we receive that. i think generally people who have seen Dangerous Animals love Jai Courtney. And so I think he carries ah simple plot,
Notable Performances in 'Keeper'
00:32:42
Speaker
where in this film, i didn't quite feel the same here, especially for like Rasef Sutherland.
00:32:48
Speaker
It wasn't doing much for me. Ross of Sutherland. ah Didn't know that he was the half-brother of Kiefer Sutherland. Son of Donald Sutherland. Another Scream King. Yeah, another Scream King, another nepotism-esque relation to film and to horror. here Here's the thing, though. what it up but like How do you avoid nepotism? like What if you just want to do the same thing that your dad wants to do, and all of a sudden you're a... find the nepotism conversation very tiring and very boring to me, because it's like...
00:33:17
Speaker
well What are they were are they supposed to do something else? Like, I don't know what what do we tell them to do? I think in the U S we have a tough time grappling with privilege where people like if, if you have any form of privilege, people rush to discredit you today for what you have done to say it's only because you started with a leg up. And I think that's oftentimes unfair.
00:33:41
Speaker
Um, so you're right. I'm being a bit, uh, you know, just trying to get a rise out of you. But it is cool. Yeah. Kiefer Sutherland's half brother. Kiefer has some great horror movies. I just saw Lost Boys recently. Yeah.
00:33:52
Speaker
Love Lost Boys. And then not horror, but it's based on Stephen King novel, but Stand By Me is an all time. Yeah. southernther one And then his dad did the remake of ah Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Yep, exactly. And an amazing Nick Rogue film, but it's a haunting horror film called Don't Look Now that i haven't Donald Sutherland's in. And it is, it sticks with you, dude.
00:34:15
Speaker
Oh, yeah. But yeah, Rousseff, he still kind of has chops a lot of small TV roles. He was in... um He's been, like, supporting roles in a few horror films. He was in Brandon Cronenberg's Possessor.
00:34:26
Speaker
This is, you know, the first time I've... I really liked him. Really? Really? Oh, yeah. I really I every time he was on screen, I was like, what is it? Because what is this guy thinking?
00:34:37
Speaker
his his his ah cadence of how he speaks is very interesting. He's ah kind of looking. i noticed that like ah oftentimes ah ah Liz would be staring at one thing in the room, like one thing that she's worried about or one item.
00:34:52
Speaker
and he's He's looking everywhere at the whole environment. i just thought he was a very interesting performer. I liked his choices a lot. Interesting. Well, again, it's fresh takes. So maybe maybe i will change my mind over time as I reflect more.
00:35:07
Speaker
You didn't like him. The writing in him, I think, went hand in hand to make this worse than it should have been. i i Again, going back to like the um Mrs. Portnoy that and kind of his distraction and rationale for leaving the home, like how those lines are delivered, how he explains himself.
00:35:25
Speaker
It just... it was hard for me to accept that he is really in love with Liz, with his counterpart in, uh, Tatiana Maslany.
00:35:38
Speaker
I, I was like, are we... Again, I thought, like is this supposed to be funny? Is this supposed to be campy? Because I was so unsold by this that I i just... well that's true I don't think you're wrong to think that. we're Perkins is training us to see his movies in the comedic light. I mean, both Longlegs and The Monkey...
00:35:58
Speaker
can be seen. i mean, the monkey more so he wrote the monkey as a comedy. He is. And, the monkey's very, very, but long legs is, is not as weighty as I think some people think it is. It's, it is comedic in many different ways. And it's kind of black humor, I guess.
00:36:16
Speaker
Yeah. That's higher. ah So I don't think it's wrong to go into this movie expecting some of that. and But you're right. we don't We get a few funny moments, but I don't – I feel like the comedy on Long Legs, Nick Cage is intentional with you know when he wants it to be funny.
00:36:34
Speaker
And you get it and it works. And here I feel like this is an actor in a movie that doesn't know when it wants to be humorous. when it does and when it doesn't and in kind of muddling that is where it loses me a bit but enough about him I do want to talk about Tatiana Maslany who plays Liz she is the lead in this film so she gets the best screen time she Hulk I think most recently is what she's famous for yeah it's she-hulk oh disney but um also she was in the monkey so she was part of that cast too you know when the production got stalled osgood perkins just said hey can i bring you on to my other feature film now i'm i'm doing which is really cool i like her i i think she's a lot more likable her reactions um the
00:37:22
Speaker
seem more realistic like they draw me in and know what she kind of looks like sally hawkins what do you think does that i thought that too about bring her back when i was seeing her younger sally hawkins yeah she's very uh you mentioned reactions she's she is very reactive like the anything that's going around her going on around her she is like she's just kind of doing double takes and unsure of herself not much less the person in front of her um yeah i i really liked her There's a scene near the very end where we get some very intense laughing, maybe also screaming. And I think she performs that very well where, um, you know, you have to have some good actor chops in order to make that scene work or else it's just going to One of my, one day you'll get one of these when I'm going and insane on a long drive or something, but, ah
00:38:09
Speaker
I called our mutual friend Blue and he didn't answer. And so i I'll do this bit while I'll like say something in the voicemail and then start laughing maniacally and then laughing even harder.
00:38:20
Speaker
And that laughter slowly descends into like weeping. Yeah. And so I felt very seen ah the final scene of this film because I i have I too have performed the maniacal laughter into just just straight up bawling.
00:38:35
Speaker
With kids, and I know this an area I go often, but it is very common to see the try to laugh something off and then start crying. Oh, yeah. Start crying and then I have to try and lull them out of it by getting them to laugh. So...
00:38:51
Speaker
i I have seen that performance done masterfully quite a few times. And that's why I think with experience, I could say Taliana Maslany does a great job as well. Yeah. All right. Now we're, well, I think that's it for production notes. So now we can go to our scarometer.
00:39:07
Speaker
Spoiler warning. Oh yeah. We're firmly in spoiler territory now. Spoiler warning. Where are you at for this? How about this? How about this? have We've never done this before. How about on the count of three, we both say it at the same time. like it.
00:39:17
Speaker
I like it. All right. You count. All right. One, two, three, seven. Oh, okay. 6.5. It's scary. Right. ah yeah Again, we've, I've probably been too hard on this film, but it is scary.
00:39:33
Speaker
Like it, it makes it jump quite a few times. And so if you're going to get scared, this is up there with our 2025 films for, I think the scarier side of the equation thus far. Yeah.
00:39:44
Speaker
Big shout out to the special effects and how Perkins framed a lot of these shots because I know. And I think I have been hard on it too. And maybe rightly so. I mean, I'll sleep on it and maybe tomorrow i'll feel the same way.
00:39:56
Speaker
I never want to, you know, mislead our listeners thinking we love something that we really don't. And even though this is a pod that's about the celebration of film, we want to be honest with you guys and how we think about things. um But I will say as a highlight, the...
00:40:09
Speaker
The makeup and look of these things were so great. exactly what my highlight was as well. All right. A lot of times. Let's get into When they finally, you know, we've said this before in other episodes, sometimes not seeing the monster is scarier than when you actually see the monster.
00:40:24
Speaker
And I think there's a lot of movies where I'm like, i don't want to see him because by the time you finally see him, he's so much less scary than what you've imagined. It ruins it. But the makeup team here, and I was good Perkins, killed it. I think this is the rare exception to the norm where when you finally see the monsters at the end, you're like, oh, these things are absolutely terrifying.
00:40:43
Speaker
Like, oh my God. And that's what makes the third act so good. You you get, you know, Liz waking up kind of the, basement of this home near an altar or shrine to the creature's mother, I guess, which resembles her.
00:40:57
Speaker
And you slowly see the creatures creep out from the shadows. And when that first head pops up, that was one of the moments in the theater where there was people going, oh no, oh no, oh no. Like just terrified because they look crazy creepy. They're like, I don't, one of them was like drooling out.
00:41:13
Speaker
There's just a lot of not water, some kind of liquid just pouring out of his mouth nonstop. oh Great job by the FX team there. That that was my highlight as well. are Are you saying the same for that was your highlight scene? Yeah, I was like honestly flipping through my nose to try to... I mean, I guess I did... i thinking I'll say another one off the top of my head here. Yes, ending was my favorite, but I do... Now, it went on too long eventually, but I do like any beginning of a movie where something's unsettling and creepy and they're just peppering in little things that happen. And the bathtub scene was honestly...
00:41:48
Speaker
longer than I thought it needed to be. But it was still a highlight because we get inside of her head what she's thinking about her hangups about the relationship, her unease about the home, but still trying, right? She she makes the little ah heart the scene before on the the foggy side of the window and then it is created behind her.
00:42:08
Speaker
And I just thought that was a nice tie into like maybe what the movie is about, which is like, fear of love fading or not being real. and And so that's where my mind was working the most. And so I, and her performance is great, wordless, but great. So that's, well, honestly, I think that's why it's great is it's one of the areas where they're doing the screenwriting. And so you finally get like, leper Oh, here's some exposition where they don't have to just like, you know, blatantly state what's going on. So i was like, Oh, this does work. So I agree with that.
00:42:33
Speaker
Uh, deep cuts and then we'll get to awards. And maybe a a so ah subset of the highlights for me, because um even if the movie wasn't um amazing or anything, and it's not one I'll return to, I don't think, unless I'm doing like an Oscar Perkins binge. But the two songs that played most prominently here, ah one being that opens the film, Love is Strange by Mickey and Sylvia, 1956. Excellent needle drops. I think we talked like Oscar Perkins. I've seen a few films now, like,
00:43:01
Speaker
He knows how to pick some winners and when to put them
Music and Ending Analysis of 'Keeper'
00:43:04
Speaker
into the movies. Well, so that one's 1956 by Mickey and Sylvia. And the other one is I Don't Want to Play in Your Yard by Peggy Lee, 1955.
00:43:13
Speaker
I want to talk about this one for a little second. and We can play a sample of it in the audio. But... ah he plays this song like four or five times. And so throughout the movie, and is that the one that ah we keep hearing on vinyl? Correct.
00:43:28
Speaker
ah It's called, I don't want to play in your yard. and it's about a person who's falling out of love. you
00:43:44
Speaker
I don't like you anymore.
00:43:50
Speaker
you be so I don't want to play in your yard. I don't like you anymore. You'll be sorry when you see me sliding down our cellar door. And it's only two other verses, but it's, it's basically like, I don't want to hang out with you anymore.
00:44:05
Speaker
I don't, I want to, don't want to, you can't be here. i I don't, I don't want to go over there. And so whether it's falling out of love or realizing someone's somebody that they're not, um know. I thought it was a great choice.
00:44:17
Speaker
He also has late in the film, he has Bringing On Home To Me by Sam Cooke. So same era of music. And then the needle drop at the very end as we go to the credits with Fooled Around and Fell In Love by Elvin Bishop.
00:44:30
Speaker
That was honestly my favorite needle drop because it's ah it's just a funny ending like you see um here we've realized that malcolm really is the villain and he's almost like a vampire and then he's 200 years old and the monsters end up siding liz instead of him and as this big reveal happens where he's now hung upside down and getting dunked into honey amber honey she goes marie antoinette and lets him eat cake and then she dunks him into honey and as his head submerged in it you get the deal dropped with uh fooled around and fell in love which is one of my all time like that that's an all-time song for me big jimmy lyric my dad let's song that
00:45:12
Speaker
Let's think about these lyrics that you and Jim Tillerick like to listen to because I think it does, again... it Must have been through. Yeah. A million girls. a million girls. I'd love them and I'd leave them alone. I didn't care how much they cried. No, sir.
00:45:25
Speaker
Their tears left me cold as a stone. Yeah. So that kind of confirms, at least for me, one of my theories what the movie is about and it is about like, you know, just... loving and leaving and, and how some people just do that and the exhaustion there and the disrespect and the recklessness, I guess, and, or the phenomena of how it feels, um, to fall in love and being, and and feel like an idiot for doing so. And I don't know.
00:45:49
Speaker
I completely agree. It's kind of funny because when we talked about long legs, you know, the needle drop that plays us out for that film was T-Rex, bang a gong, or bring it on, as you say as it's done internationally. You can do your US version over there. I just like to stick with the original. But yeah, that that had very literal lyrics describing the film as well.
00:46:07
Speaker
I think the way that this movie will age well for me if it does, because again, this is on the lower half of the horror films for me on the year. um But if I look at it as a ah movie about love that either...
00:46:19
Speaker
is afraid of it or critiques it or talks about the pitfalls and phenomena of it. I think it is, i think it does that well. and And again, maybe that's just because I'm in a newer relationship and thinking about this stuff.
00:46:32
Speaker
This is good yin and yang for us. You're a hopeless romantic where I'm a bit of a curmudgeon. So it is a good perspective where maybe that's why he didn't speak to me as much where I'm like, yeah, yeah. since says Says the married guy.
00:46:43
Speaker
ah Okay. Well now we can move to our awards. Should we do our Ben Gardner? Yeah. stward yeah There's a few of them. What'd you end up with? for You're a better note taker than me because you had light and I didn't.
00:46:58
Speaker
I'd happy to leave then. i know I have one. so yeah i can well Can I just do first? because you you if i you could just sure I thought you were inviting me to say it. No, it was more so like I only have one so let me do it because you might if you say it then I'm just going to sit there like chopped liver.
00:47:14
Speaker
My one that I can remember slash read from my notes that don't look like anything but chicken scratches when the tree eats the yeah Romanian woman. That's fine.
00:47:26
Speaker
That's fine. Like what? Like she's in the forest. She's looking around the house because she's heard a noise. And so you expect whatever harm is going to be the background or off screen.
00:47:37
Speaker
And all a sudden the tree she's huddled up against. attacks her just out of nowhere. It it goes again to like, wait, what is happening in this film? Because there are creatures. I don't think the tree was a creature. It's never really fully explained, but it definitely was an effective jump scare because it was way out of left field.
00:47:54
Speaker
Do we think that was a perspective thing where the creature was behind, she and the creature were behind the tree and we just saw the outside of them going up? It looked like the tree ate her. It looked like it was straight out of Poltergeist when the tree just smashes through that kid's window and gobbles them up.
00:48:11
Speaker
well yeah Up there with one of the best tree attacks of all time. It has to be this. You got a list? It has to be the Ents from Lord of the Rings. Or the Whomping Willow from Harry Potter. Ooh, okay, okay.
00:48:24
Speaker
Is that our Mount Rushmore? i think that might be it. Well, the Ents and Whomping Willow are firmly established in the Mount Rushmore. Ooh, I guess, yeah, I guess Poltergeist is too. There's a fourth slot. Maybe this is it. Who knows?
00:48:36
Speaker
Yeah. We'll see how the years go. Yeah, that was, that was my jump scare as well. There, there's a few others throughout the film, but that one was like, what is name some others though? Cause I was trying to, was struggling to remember them. name What are some other ones? I mean, purely for the sake of jumps, it was like, again, the, the scene. Yes. Yeah. Well, this is, this literally is purely for the sake of jumps, Travis. Well, okay, so I was saying that because there's literally a scene where it's dead silent. She's in a room and freaking Malcolm shows back up and just goes boo really loudly and they play the audio up and it'll make you jump.
00:49:08
Speaker
You weren't expecting it, but that's like a cheap jump scare. yeah There's down in the third act when she's kind of at that altar and in the basement of the home and she wakes up and you see the first creature's head just emerge out of thin air.
00:49:19
Speaker
um So there's a few good ones here. I don't want to, I know we're already in spoiler territory, but I don't think we need to catalog everyone other than saying there are some effective jump scares in this film.
00:49:30
Speaker
um Our cantaloupe award. Yes. ah I think a excellent cantaloupe tension setting scene for me was, yeah, she's on the phone with her friend and one of these entities becomes a long boy and their neck gets very long or already is long and starts shaking.
00:49:48
Speaker
looking at her going above her and it's initially materializes out of like you don't see it at first but mentioned this long legs as well perkins is good at putting a character in the foreground and then having this wide empty area behind them in the background where suddenly your eyes will catch movement and then be like holy shit there's something there yeah and and the two angles were given are are very he did this throughout the movie and and again don't know how much of it's a bug versus a feature but like it is a bit disorienting where things are you know and sometimes people's heads will be chopped like framed out like especially that dinner scene with the cousin and the and minka like you don't know where everybody's really sitting everything's kind of claustrophobic and and the two angles of this scene that we're talking about now well her side profile shot looks like
00:50:37
Speaker
She's just in a halt like ah in a corner, but then you go to the other shot where you see there's space behind her and this entity is coming. I don't know. it was just like it's enough to get you a little to put you on your back feet, I suppose. Yeah.
00:50:50
Speaker
He does a lot of tight shots from like atypical angles. Like, I don't know how many times there's a shot just like looking up at the soffit, you know, like the underside of the ceiling. We're just like, OK, just soffit. Soffits like your, your ceiling, essentially the, the underside. um Usually I call it like soffit if it's like the wood slats, not just like normal drywall.
00:51:11
Speaker
Nice. Big real estate. Big real estate. Hopefully I'm not butchering that. My other home people. now i wrong But there's a lot of shots, you know, like looking straight up at the ceiling, I guess is what I'm trying to say where I'm like, okay, that's cool.
00:51:23
Speaker
It is scary. Disorienting. Like you said. um All right. Well, should we move on to cannon fodder? Yes. Now, and again, my gut says cannon fodder is Minka. Yeah, it is.
00:51:36
Speaker
It's fine, man. Go with your gut. You're absolutely correct. you could say you could say the cousin, but that was a bit more meaningful.
Twists and Plot Inconsistencies in 'Keeper'
00:51:44
Speaker
And so, yeah, yeah Minka getting just eaten by this tree monster, which we've already talked about, has got to be it.
00:51:50
Speaker
So I think when we we're introduced to her character pretty early on, I think right when I saw her, I just knew I was like, oh, she's she's first dead. She's first dead. That's going to first kill we see. Like she's very minor character. She served her purpose with like a weird cryptic warning about the cake and she's gone. She's done for.
00:52:08
Speaker
Tastes like shit. I thought when she said tastes like shit, I thought she was talking about kissing the cousin for a second. That's, but i mean, step it on a bit, but that was by far my favorite line where she just leans in and tastes like shit.
00:52:20
Speaker
I'm going start saying that. So RIP Minka. And then ah Best Death. I think there's really only one contender here. Yeah, the honey head. Yeah, the honey head. Great way to kill somebody.
00:52:32
Speaker
i get I don't know if that's honey. I don't know if that's like ectoplasm from the monsters. But whatever it is, Malcolm getting his head submerged in that, hung upside down.
00:52:43
Speaker
um Yeah, sorry, Malcolm. Eat honey, brother. ah Shyamalan, easiest thing in the world. We find out that the Malcolm and his cousin are 200-year-old human... Oh, that's good.
00:52:57
Speaker
ah human dad Human beings. What were you going to put? I was going to put that Miss Portnoy wasn't really in a coma. Oh, I don't think Mrs. Portnoy exists, Travis. Exactly. That is my point. Like, that's that's the part I just can't get over how handy that was. I've seen it so many times in movies. Okay, so the reveal, right? Because we we clearly knew he's up to something.
00:53:19
Speaker
They're trying to, he's back home now. He's comforting Liz. And they're having a glass of wine. She's calmed down a bit. And she's like, how's Miss Portnoy? And he goes, who's Miss Portnoy? I love that part, by the way. That's like one of my favorite parts.
00:53:33
Speaker
You've shat on that moment so many times, and each time I'm sitting here like, oh, that would have freaked me out. He had brought Miss Portnoy times. just ector Mrs. her, Mrs. Portnoy. She's a married woman. He had brought her up multiple times just hours earlier.
00:53:47
Speaker
He really forgot that was the name of the person. I mean, dude, this is why this is this is why I'm pro-honesty and pro-not-lying. Because if you don't lie, you don't have to remember a bunch of shit. But if you lie, you have to remember things.
00:53:58
Speaker
And he was probably lying about so much stuff that he forgot the decoy, Mrs. Portnoy's name. So yeah it just happens. but I wasn't buying it. But that that was my Shyamalan twist. Okay. Well, I'll finish what mine is now. That I fully expected.
00:54:12
Speaker
Mine was that they are 200-year-old humans that... that were teen young boys in the 1700s, I guess that 1800s. Oh yeah. 200 years old. We're getting old.
00:54:24
Speaker
Uh,
00:54:30
Speaker
they're like with muskets and they have some intruders on their land and it's a woman that looks exactly like Liz. They kill her. This then creates some, uh,
00:54:44
Speaker
circular ah connection between them and the entities and they strike some bargain where like, hey, entities will not, they won't kill us as long as we give them women, women to eat or any human to eat.
00:55:00
Speaker
But it seems like they they typically use romance as a way to My thing is like, why don just die? I'm i'm barely I'm 36 and I'm like, good, dude. I'm like, OK, can we just end this already? I'm so fucking tired of taxes and God got of work out. And, you know, you have to work and stuff.
00:55:19
Speaker
Anyways, I'm fine. I'm taking my medication. But basically, I'm like, why would you want to live 200 years? what What is the point? Just die. Yeah. I don't know how they struck that bargain to begin with. like the Well, that's part of my, part let's dull knives. That is, a that is my number one. So maybe we'll, we'll can go to it there.
00:55:36
Speaker
But, yeah but that's the, that's the twist is that they're old boys. Okay. Yeah. I like that. um Don't go in there. So many, so many Tatiana slash Liz loved her acting, but her decision making in this was so poor in my opinion, like,
00:55:53
Speaker
every Clearly the cake is is tampered with. And she has already had perfect excuse. i don't like chocolate. Why did she eat It would appease this guy? No idea.
00:56:03
Speaker
Don't eat the cake. Did she secretly like chocolate though? Cause then she goes down to finish off the whole thing later at night. I don't think it's her love. that rocke be Like, Oh, I don't need dessert. Like not for me, not tonight. Again, another dull knife, but it's like, we have no idea how this like, uh, psychedelic chocolate cake works. does It doesn't make you want more. I don't, don't understand. Are the monsters making the cake?
00:56:27
Speaker
Are they the quote unquote caretaker? Like it was prepared and ready when they arrived there. Yeah, I think. Does it Darren make it or like the monsters? No, I think the monsters. Also chefs down in the basement have a little easy bake oven. think it's the monsters. It's like. With packaging with the ribbon and bow on it. It's like cooking with the Muppets or something. They're just all down there like fucking breaking things as their hands don't work the right way. and Yeah.
00:56:50
Speaker
They put the little heart with the chocolate on it. Yeah, a little blood on the top. I mean, they have a lot of time on their hands. They just haunt and cook. That's all they do. um ah like that. Mine was simpler. Mine was she she saw a garbage disposal activate by itself, suddenly turn on, and then turn off, and then she's just immediately like, oh I heard something rattling. I'm going to put my hand at this garbage disposal that I could just turn on by itself, which is a horrible, horrible idea. That would have been a good
00:57:21
Speaker
cantaloupe board too. but Anytime you put a hand in a garbage list, things are getting dicey. things are and dicey Right. All right. Best line. what What was your, what your, mine was tastes like shit. Mine was tastes like shit. I also liked, since I said that one, um, when Darren finds Liz home alone ah hu and just raises the big bottle of scotch and just sales out scotch.
00:57:44
Speaker
yeah yeah He says, Hey, do you want to keep this party going? Let's drink some scotch, which. If you are partying, there's tequila, there's some illicit drugs. Let's get scotch going.
00:58:01
Speaker
Scotch is like the end of the night nightcap, like you're in your smoker's jacket. that's That's not the midday, let's keep the party going drink. right I appreciated the enthusiasm with that quote. um Very funny that we both of our best lines were both said by the same person.
00:58:17
Speaker
um When Minka is in the woods lost, she's struggling with her English and she hears somebody in the off to the distance and she tries to utter an an English insult. It doesn't come out too well.
00:58:30
Speaker
This is what I heard. You might have heard something different. i heard her say fucking yo, like maybe you're asked as in something can be asked like, i thought that was like assholes.
00:58:42
Speaker
Oh, assed hoes. Oh. Fucking yo, assholes. I thought she was calling them hoes. Like fucking yo, assed hoes. It's a good point though because just before that, I'm not sure if I got this quote correct either because I can't see it online because we're just seeing it.
00:58:57
Speaker
We just saw the film and just released. But I'm pretty sure she's on her phone and she goes, I wish for Uber. Yes, she does. Which is how I love. She does. is Like they're trying to order an Uber.
00:59:07
Speaker
That's going to be my quote now when I'm in a group of people who need an Uber. I wish for Uber from the 2025 film Keeper by Oscar Perkins. And then everybody gets an Uber and leaves me alone. I have one more liked, which I want to ask you this question.
00:59:23
Speaker
ah if if if you If you believe in this theory, the idea that if they're talking about how... um Malcolm is obsessed with her paintings and he's like, if I could paint like you, I'd just paint over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
00:59:38
Speaker
Well, then she says, that you saying that about my paintings reminds me of the adage, if men had tits, they wouldn't be able to stop playing with them.
00:59:49
Speaker
If you woke up one day and just had tits, would you, how much time would you spend just being like, what's going on here? A good amount of the day. Yeah, same. I would definitely be late to work.
00:59:59
Speaker
I mean, I think it'd be half, half like, uh, sexual intrigue, but half just like intrigue. Just like, yeah what yourre how how do these things work? Like, i mean, I know, I know. Men are easily entertained. I know how they work. I want to be clear for the record. I know how they work. I just meant like physics wise. What the hell is this? Um,
01:00:26
Speaker
dull knives, dull knives. Do we have enough time to do them? Yeah, we got plenty. I've touched on a few, right? So we touched on like an ample amount. Maybe some would say too much time spent with B-roll of water flowing. i think we already covered that one.
01:00:41
Speaker
I talked about scotch, not usually a drink that keeps the party going. um Let's do the this' like the bit the big one. Let's do the big one. Yeah, yeah. Why didn't the entities just kill these sons of bitches?
01:00:53
Speaker
Yeah. what And there's a it's a throwaway line like, oh, well – the fish don't know their fish or they they don't... You know what i mean? He's just like... Oh, yeah. They're like They hook fish.
01:01:06
Speaker
they They're going to grant you three wishes, but if they can grant wishes, why didn't they just wish to get off the line? And I guess that's the whole explanation for like... It's like that they're... They kill these monsters' mothers, or mother singular, and now the monsters work for them. They got some kind of deal going on with i guess now that we're talking about it, I wonder if he was kind of saying that These entities might be physically and spiritually powerful, but maybe they're not very smart.
01:01:31
Speaker
And so they can be subdued ah or domesticated or or trained to do things and in a way that like, you know, dogs are stronger than us, Trav. They can kill us in our sleep, but we have somehow domesticated them into doing what we want.
01:01:46
Speaker
And so... Maybe that's what he meant by the fish thing. and don't know. ah yeah Those monsters are very confusing. are they Are they like Predator, where they can go invisible? And that's how we're saying, like, the heart on the glass and stuff like that.
01:01:58
Speaker
Or they more like non-corporeal, like Ghost, where they don't really have a physical form all the time? I think ah all of the above. I mean, we saw them literally do those things. Another issue I have with the film is that we don't know how much of this is hallucinations versus what was actually happening. So I can't i guess I can't answer the question. like A lot of cuts.
01:02:18
Speaker
Cuts upon cuts. Yeah. Where yeah you see her wake up a few times. um Another one I had was like, why... Why use AI for old Malcolm? Just like get an old dude. it was so distracting. It was like Benjamin Button hanging in a tree.
01:02:33
Speaker
that was no That was like if Benjamin Button was made in the 90s hanging from a tree. yeah' it even That wasn't even our Brad Pitt, Benjamin Button. That looked like Benjamin Button meets the new Snow White and Seven Dwarves dwarves. Yes. It looks like both of them. That's actually a great comp.
01:02:50
Speaker
um I'm surprised you you have not mentioned my biggest one thus far. so I'm going to jump in here. Okay. This is why I'm sorry to keep, you know, pummeling him, but Ross of Sutherland as well as, you know, Nick leopard who wrote this, this is where I had to suspend all my belief and that dissemblance in reality.
01:03:14
Speaker
Disbelief. Sorry. had to, well, yeah, I guess I was believing the film and this is where I stopped believing it. So, so you suspending your belief.
01:03:27
Speaker
Well, you were suspending disbelief and then you stopped suspending it. Okay.
01:03:38
Speaker
Tomato, tomato. Now i' getting more confused than I was by the film. that being That's Keeper for you. Where the film lost me is early on. They arrive at this cabin. you know Cousin Darren and his girl have just left.
01:03:51
Speaker
They are getting a little Randy. They are literally getting it on. She is on top of him straddling him. And he goes, wait, hold up. Before we do it, let's have some cake. which for like that That would never, never happen. Clearly something was up. You do think then that this guy had ill intentions because like like why would you she wasn't just ready to go. She was going.
01:04:18
Speaker
And he goes, hey, get off me. let's I want you to try this really good cake first. and that just like Is That's tough for when you're in When you're in the moment, there's very few things that would merit stopping. Like that is a very few things. Intimate, special moment.
01:04:34
Speaker
And you're both excited and it's going the right way. Like eating food is a whole thing. You got to get the plate. You got to get the forks. You got to sit somewhere else. It's like, let's stop. Do it. Like that's, yeah that is post coitus thing you do. Do that post sex. Oh, o sex food is the fucking best.
01:04:51
Speaker
Like you, you are not stopping mid sex to remember that you have a great cake for dessert. That's a great one. Like that could have waited, what? Five minutes. could wait to write up the fact That's what I'm saying.
01:05:02
Speaker
Oh, like two minutes. What's going on? 90 seconds. um Yeah. Yeah. If it's a good day. oh who was The kid in Halloween, the boyfriend, that was like 30 seconds. Sure. I'll call you rest.
01:05:16
Speaker
He would, He was slam bam. Thank you, ma'am. Fully dressed in 30 seconds. That's a tough one. Anyways, that's where the film lost me very early on. One other one I had is ah she's losing service at a very critical moment despite having perfectly clear service with her friend earlier.
01:05:34
Speaker
yeah and makes no attempt to move about the house to find better service. I was just like, this is important. You're trying to get out of there. go to Go somewhere else in the house. Go to a corner or a balcony or not enough ah resourcefulness trying to find. They probably had Wi-Fi there. should have done Wi-Fi calling. Yeah, Wi-Fi calling. was thinking the whole time, right? It was pretty remote. like I doubt they even had much service to begin with.
01:05:57
Speaker
um Oh, this one more. This goes back to the lore. So like, help me understand this. The young boys who are down me then become Malcolm and the cousin. It's actually, it's a twofold question, Trav.
01:06:11
Speaker
So 200 years went by and all of a sudden Liz comes up and then the cousin gets killed. The cousin Darren got killed. how Why did he get? Oh yeah, that was one of mine too. So, okay. So there's a lot, if I could piggyback on yours because I could. Yeah, go ahead.
01:06:25
Speaker
One, so I guess when they're young boys, they kill this creature's mother, they become immortal, but for some reason they both age and now they're like, 15 years and then stop aging? Like, why was that a sweet spot? Like, in their mid-30s or so? or yeah how does that work?
01:06:41
Speaker
And then, to your point, like, they're like, oh, no, these entities got us. They got our back. They're the ones preventing us from aging, keeping us immortal. And they just killed Darren. Yeah. and No explanation.
01:06:52
Speaker
yeah yeah No explanation. No idea why they turned on him. And Malcolm doesn't appear to notice at all, either. He's just like, you you know, if it was immediately after Darren died that then Liz gets to Malcolm. I'd believe that. Yeah. It'd be related to sleep that night. No, he doesn't get woken up to like hours and hours earlier or sorry, hours and hours later without even wondering where his cousin is.
01:07:18
Speaker
I get, yeah, I guess the, the primary question there being, What changed in 200 years? Was it simply Liz's presence because she is, quote, different because she looks like the mother of those creatures from 200 ago? Creatures got mommy issues. They got mommy issues. Way mommy issues.
01:07:36
Speaker
And that brings me to my next point. So does this come full circle or starts a new cycle where they were using the shrunken head of the mother as like a totem of sorts, a ritual,
01:07:48
Speaker
but then now Malcolm's head is in there. Is he now the new shrunken head and they're going to use that? Like, is she is Liz now Malcolm right is Liz. Now the two, she can live forever and again, he use Malcolm's head because she, because she killed Malcolm and now she has the head in the same way that Malcolm killed the creature's mother and had their head.
01:08:09
Speaker
Yeah, it's a good point. I don't know. I sound insane saying it out loud. Is Maggie on her way? Liz's friend.
Friendships and Relationships: A Critical View
01:08:15
Speaker
Pretty sure she was just like, I'm, she was like, I'm going to shoot you straight. You need to learn to like, to live with your mistakes. a Bad friend.
01:08:23
Speaker
Like, help me. I'm unsafe and stuck in a cabin with a man. I don't feel safe around. I'm like, Well, you got to learn from your mistakes. You know what? That was, that should be one of my losers is that, ah you know, there's a lot of conjecture and and rightly so about toxic male friendships and drive. I'd like to, I'd like to shout out. We don't have a toxic male friendship. We have a a very non-toxic, very healthy. We tried each other. Right. yeah It's all an act actually, guys. We write all this out ahead of time. but Uh,
01:08:52
Speaker
Pretty toxic female relationships going on here. She is, ah first of all, Liz is a complete bitch to Minka who doesn't speak English. She's like calling her a bimbo and like, and then her friend, they like hang up on each other. And that's like, she's basically calling her a kept woman and that she doesn't I don't know.
01:09:10
Speaker
Not a lot of good female friendships going on here. Yeah, I'd agree. i only have one last tool knife because we've been piloting a bit, but I do have to bring this up because when Malcolm reveals his master plan, so to speak, and Liz is trying to get out of the house, she gets out on a patio and starts to scale the side of the home.
01:09:31
Speaker
She sees the monsters peer over at her from the edge of the roof and her her grip fails. like She falls what I thought was into the creek. I thought so too. And then she just wakes up in the basement of the home.
01:09:44
Speaker
Just no idea what was going on there. Like maybe the monsters saved her, but she's not even wet when she wakes up. And again, it's like, is she dreaming? Is this even reality? I saw Eli Roth say that this was a surrealist Lynchian nightmare.
01:09:59
Speaker
And I'm like, it kind of pains me when somebody just calls something the surrealist Lynchian as if that's the only thing he can do. Mm-hmm. I did think it was surreal. I didn't think it was Lynchian at all. I think you can sometimes generously slap on a surreal label to just a plot that doesn't have a lot of continuity or makes sense. Be like, oh, it was just surrealist.
Humor in Grooming and Food Preferences
01:10:21
Speaker
All right. I have a lot of winners and losers. Oh, yeah. have a few. One winner. it was blinking. You miss it. Tatiana Maslany has armpit hair and is a female. i I must have blinked.
01:10:35
Speaker
ah Winner. Winner, because Trav, I'll tell you this, the woman I fell in love with on this ah on this project, very European, very European style. steve john pertz Don't knock it until you try it, Trav. I'm just saying.
01:10:50
Speaker
I'm not that progressive is what it comes down to But you don't know. I wasn't either until it it was before me. And I was like, there's something kind of natural and beautiful about this. This is I'm starting my platform now.
01:11:02
Speaker
Right. But by the way, my my pro armpit hair for all. I'm not going to say just for women. I'm saying you should stop shaving your armpits. That's what I'm trying to tell you on. po See, that's why I don't hold double standard because I do. try I don't clean shave my armpits, but do.
01:11:17
Speaker
No, you don't. I'm relatively hairy guy. I trim. You trim your armpit hair? Dude, it's hard for me to wear short sleeve shirts if don't. I mean, it's like every like two months or so. I'm not constantly trimming it down. Do other men you talk to do this?
01:11:33
Speaker
Are you asking do men trim down their body hair in general? No, no, no. yeah I guess. yeah Oh, yes, of course. I've i've done my chest and stuff. I just I've never had enough chest and not armpit. Do you know how weird that look for like smooth as a sealed chest and then just extra hairy armpits? Like I just I don't have a like, look, at I don't have that much.
01:11:51
Speaker
Like, OK, you're see, you you just can't relate. Then I'm far, far hairier than you. Sorry, your testosterone pills are really working. Yeah, I don't know. I started taking a. pills for my hair the past six months and wait what do for what do you mean you do for hair regrowth or something yeah it's just for regrowth why your hair's a your hair next yeah it's pretty thick it's pretty coarse i i'm probably vanity has gotten to me but the the problem is that um it's not just on your head i need to switch to like a topical application can when you just take the pill like all the hair on your body is growing just out of control
01:12:27
Speaker
Draft, this explains so much. Does it? Have I been looking extra hairy recently? You've you've looked hairy since 2009. didn't know this was medicinally induced.
01:12:40
Speaker
um All right, so winter armpit hair for all, all genders. um I'll do one more than i want to hear from you, but um muskets. Love a good musket. Those guys shot that entity's mother with that musket from like, I don't know, 100 yards, 50 yards.
01:12:57
Speaker
And they shoot her again point blank. Yeah, not cool. But just two young lads with muskets running around. That can't be her shrunken head then because a musket blast is like firing a cannonball.
01:13:10
Speaker
That's literally what it is. If they fired that point blank into her head... Her head would have exploded. there There wouldn't be much head left to shrunk. To shrunken.
01:13:20
Speaker
To shrink? To shrink? I don't know. Is shrunken the past tense of the word shrink? I don't think shrunken is a word. I think shrunk is a word. But a shrunken head is something. So shrunken is a word.
01:13:34
Speaker
Oh. right Yeah. Why isn't it just shrunk head? Yeah. Can I start saying like, you know, when my when we accidentally throw like cotton shirts in the dryer, like... Cusey, I know of, oh no, my shirts are shrunken.
01:13:47
Speaker
I guess that is, right? Yeah, you're right. no i've said okay So what's shrunk? like like Oh, my dad is older. He's 85 now, so and he has shrunk. He's gotten less tall. Yeah, I don't know the right way to use them or which contacts you use one over the other.
01:14:02
Speaker
I hope I don't shrink. um you have some good winners. so I'm just going to only have one. It was randomly inserting a mini-me into the movie. oh yeah What the fuck was that? i guess of mika that's scary enough where she suddenly sees mika in the home but then ausot perkins was like no it wouldd make this crazier as if we just have a tiny mika right next to full-s size mina and they're both talking together Yeah, and she's got a high voice and she's not like proportionally small. Like some parts of her, kind she looks like very miss misshapen.
01:14:36
Speaker
yeah But I don't think it wasn't very proportional. It was like... The the other girls who have been killed there didn't get mini-me's. Minka was special in that regard where right only she got a shrunken Minka.
01:14:47
Speaker
A shrunken Minka. That's going to be my new punk band name, the Shrunken Minkas. Hey, opening for the Flogging Molly's, the Shrunken Minkas. Yeah.
01:14:57
Speaker
ah Drooling for ah for ah for a bad guy, for a villain. Yeah. Love when there's – This one – Talk about waterfalls and water.
01:15:08
Speaker
Yeah. Nonstop drooling. i don't How did they create enough saliva to support that much drooling? Like they were just – That actor had like a two liter of some kind of liquid just born out It looked like a vanilla protein shake.
01:15:21
Speaker
Yeah. Extra protein. um Another winner. i think you and i both like when this happens. Inserting the title's name into a line. Hey, she's a keeper. Yeah, I was like a nice.
01:15:37
Speaker
I know that I do like the on the nose. i I'm always game for that the insertion of the of the name of the film. And then the my last one for Winner Before Losers is ah the multi-purpose use of honey.
01:15:51
Speaker
just you know You can sweeten coffee. You can add it to your PB&J. i like to put it on a... use it for anything else than dunking heads in it in the film? No, I'm just saying that its it this is one use of honey among many.
01:16:05
Speaker
And it showed a unique ah showed a unique use of it. you you know Got it. Jurassic Park. you know Well, I guess that was just Amber from the tree. So maybe that doesn't count, but I like to put honey on my PB and J's and my coffee and sometimes on a cracker with salt and butter and's and sugar.
01:16:26
Speaker
Yeah. my My girls are really big on PB honeys. Dude, you know what's the best is? Is a honey butter. yeah oh Do you know how you make it? Honey butter chicken biscuit?
01:16:37
Speaker
That's like well no i'm just saying like the best menu item. The spread it so yeah water burgers that is their really the only good thing at Whataburger. ah but Do you know what honey butter is?
01:16:49
Speaker
No. i mean you take so You take some honey and you take some butter and you mix it up. ah yeah Thank you. Very enlightening. um right Losers. Chocolate cake? I have it on there.
01:17:02
Speaker
I love chocolate cake with this film portrayed as such a weird light. i This is probably the most damage done to chocolate cake since the film Matilda. Yes. Yes. I'm so glad you said it. where you're going to go I was like, don't, you cannot say this number one because Matilda is one.
01:17:14
Speaker
Yes. Since Matilda where all of a sudden i'm a little, I'm not a huge cake guy. I could go for like a chocolate, like a double chocolate or French cake and, The way she eats it, like scooping her hand in, examining what's in her hand, letting a little bit fall off her hand and then just stuffing her mouth. I'm like, nope, not for me.
01:17:32
Speaker
Only time I'll fuck with chocolate cake is if there is some like raspberry preserves or some jam or some – I need to have the fruit element in there too. Are you more of an ice cream guy than a cake guy? Yes, a thousand percent. Me too.
01:17:44
Speaker
Ice cream is like... We're well cultured is what that means. Yeah. We know our dulces, our sweets. um Weird cousins is a loser for me. Everyone's got some weird cousins and Darren is definitely one of them. That guy is coming in hot, bragging about dating a girl that can't speak a lick of English, ah not letting anybody speak. He dresses like the guys from Night of the Roxbury. He's just weird cousin vibes all around. He reminded me of the guy from Superbad who's like...
01:18:12
Speaker
Who's like, hey, I know you. The guy who gets who hits who hits him by the car like with the car. Hits Michael Ceron with the car. That's exactly what I was thinking. he looks just like. he looked That's who I thought it was. It's um ah Joe Latruglio.
01:18:26
Speaker
He looks just like Joe Latruglio. He's like, going to be totally honest with you. I've worn out for a totally nonviolent crime. yeah So fucking good. I love it. I just watched that movie again for the first time. You look like Jimmy's brother. Yeah.
01:18:42
Speaker
Yep, yep, you do. He's like he's like leaning over like out of his knees. yeah Hands on the knees. All right. Yeah, Weird Cousins is a loser for me. um also had waterfalls and like running water as a loser.
01:18:57
Speaker
I just feel like they were objectified. Yeah, TLC. Never forget, don't go chasing them. But I feel like they were used for their looks versus... their use or like yeah anything beyond just, Oh, there's water. I just felt like they were kind of objectified.
01:19:12
Speaker
and You know, or least time's up. I guess it was supposed to be thematic with maybe because like the original mother figure that looks like Liz got killed next to the river. Speaking of which, one of my losers, I guess is a nice segue for, uh,
01:19:27
Speaker
stay on your ground laws. They're like, she's on our property, so we're going to murder her. And it just wasn't a good look because she was not trying to invade the home. She was not a real threat. That must have been ah that must but become present day Florida, probably. she was it I think that's a very liberal interpretation of like, well, she's on our land. We got to kill her.
01:19:47
Speaker
yeah Not as innocent. and Not on my land. As he contends. um Another loser is Liz as a painter just didn't really see it. i I'm with you.
01:20:00
Speaker
None of these things popped for me and I'm, you know, i'm no art critic or anything, but that one that he loved, it just looked like a faucet with like a ladder behind it or something. i don't even know what it was. Surreal again. Surrealism.
01:20:13
Speaker
It can be anything you want. Yeah. And then kind of a shot across the bow for ah any European countries that end with A-N-Y-A. Transylvania, Romania. Armenia.
01:20:27
Speaker
Well, I guess that's not A-N-Y-A, but it ends in the N-I-A. Yeah. Just, you know, a little disrespect there. ah Any more? Nope.
01:20:42
Speaker
That's it.
01:20:44
Speaker
tra it Let's do this again. scream queen or king at the same time see okay so i just have to preface but we did not select osgood perkins for long legs he was right up there with mike monroque we're like oh we'll have a natural chance to give it to him okay keeper but i don't think i could give it i don't care i can't i don't have one readily available i think you'll just find it in your heart and then within within three seconds you'll know the truth ready I know you'll do it.
01:21:15
Speaker
I know you. to me Give me a second.
01:21:23
Speaker
All right. I got it. You count. All right. One, two, three. Tatiana Maslany.
01:21:34
Speaker
yeah liked her performance she was you've said so many good things about her she's the best casting crew i probably went too deep who would you you said the composer bishop no elvin bishop oh oh fooled around and fell in love okay he'll drop at the very end when the credits roll i thought she right I'll side with you right away. tay autoimus i like i actually liked both performances very much, but I know that you liked her more. You had issues with him, so i'm this feels like a good consensus. 100% to get on board. I like her performance. i want to see her in more horror films.
01:22:04
Speaker
And so, yes, she rightfully deserves our scream queen, as she's now kind of the queen of the creatures at their little homestead there out in the woods.
01:22:15
Speaker
kind of a miss for Perkins to lose out on the... I i love Long Legs is one of my favorite films of 2024. The Monkey's really good. I know. I really want to see man. It's really funny. So I like The Monkey as well. So I think it's fair to say, you know, I've enjoyed two of his last three films and would recommend.
01:22:31
Speaker
I want to ask you something as somebody who has seen all three of these. These are ah forever in his career. it's gonna These are going to be grouped in together because they were made in such quick succession and around each other and stuff. Do you, Travis, see any connective tissue between the three? Because I can try to tie something between Longlegs.
01:22:47
Speaker
Yeah, the Perkins verse of these three movies, The Monkey, Keeper, and Longlegs. Anything. and it can be a stretch. I'm just curious because you you have the benefit of seeing them three. Just good needle drops where lyrics can speak very literally to the movie.
01:23:01
Speaker
Monkey has some good lino drops. Oh, I can't wait to see that one. I'm ready for it to be funny. um All right. let's Can you remind people, Trav, that we want their
Audience Engagement and Social Media
01:23:13
Speaker
help with the... I know you said it on the top, but for our sign-off, what we want with the Spooky Awards. Yeah, we're gonna again, we're we're getting ready for our Spooky Awards. So...
01:23:21
Speaker
Also, drop a comment if there are horror films you think we need to see. If you don't already follow us on Letterboxd, please do. You can kind of see we've been inventorying all the films we've seen to date, so you get a preview of what we will be considering.
01:23:35
Speaker
We're trying to actively add a few more films to that list between now and mid-December, like a month from now, when we'll do our spooky awards. So if there's any film you feel that's very deserving that we haven't covered on the pod and you don't see on those letterbox lists, let us know.
01:23:50
Speaker
Love to check those out. And then also if you follow us on social media, specifically our Instagram, which is what? The Sunday scaries dot pod. Is that our handle? The Sunday scaries dot pod. follow us there and you can actually participate in voting and setting in nominations for our different awards.
01:24:06
Speaker
And next week before we're off for a week is Eli Roth's thanksgiving are we love the seasonal films love the seasonal films on the nose.
01:24:17
Speaker
And so that'll be next Sunday. and then we're off for the Thanksgiving and holidays before we begin the December festivities, which will be as of now.
01:24:29
Speaker
Black Christmas, Five Nights at Freddy's 2, and then Spooky Awards. That's the plan for now. That's the plan. Subject to change. Subject to change, as always. Awesome, guys. Hey, Trav. Trav, you're a real keeper.
01:24:42
Speaker
Hey, you're keeper. You're keeper, Rick. We do not have a toxic friendship. Keeper? I hardly know her. Okay. Oh, God. We'll see you next week.
01:24:53
Speaker
Bye, guys.
01:24:55
Speaker
Bye.
01:25:12
Speaker
but I guess explain in to what regard. Trevor, sorry. Are you six inches away from your mic? You seem to be peaking at times. Oh, I'm about four to five. i can.
01:25:24
Speaker
I think six is the U.S. average.