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Just Craftin - Episode 005 - Craftin Strikes Back
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On this special bonus episode, Shawn, Ed, and Chris go further down the hobby craft rabbit hole. They discuss some of their current projects, airbrushes, and what's next.
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Introduction and Podcast Background
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey, welcome to episode number, what was it? Five? Five. or The Crafton Strikes Back. The Crafton Strikes Back. Number five of Just Crafton, where we, being me, Chris and Sean, get together and talk about Crafting. It could range a lot of things like miniatures, models, painting, molding, you name it.
00:00:29
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This is our yearly meetup. Yeah. Yeah. We haven't been on since December. It's nice to see you all again. Yeah. My name's Ed. I'm here with Sean. You just heard him. How you doing?
00:00:40
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Hello.
00:00:43
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And across the pond on the other side, mr Christopher Hall. All right, lads. Fucking December 2024. What a like what a joke. What joke. It's our last one. Yeah. Oh, my God.
00:00:58
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It's probably my fault because I phased out of doing stuff for a while. i think it's because I played more music or something. I don't know. Don't try to justify it. Uses that same part of the brain.
00:01:11
Speaker
No, yeah, it's not really an excuse. But yeah, so we're here. It's been a while.
Oscar Nominees and Movie Talk
00:01:18
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um we're gonna talk about what we've been working on lately and maybe some questions that we have for each other regarding what to do with issues we've encountered or whatnot but i think we have some other things we're gonna do first i don't know sean yeah do you want to you want to talk about oscar nominees is that what you want to do you want to you want to you want to
00:01:43
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Let's go another three and a half hours talking about it. I was really hoping we'd get a reaction out of Chris, but that's just it's he's stoic as always. We all watch Marty Supreme, right? yeah No, I've not seen Marty Supreme, lads. Sorry.
00:01:59
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Well, let's spoil it for you. i i was i would I wouldn't watch it. I'd save your savevior time. If you like ping pong, it's good. I did watch, I watched weapons the other day. I thought that was amazing.
00:02:10
Speaker
Nice. I don't know you've seen that. That is good. That's an eyeball. The ball, is the bulging. move Is that that one? I think it's the kids, right? that Yes. Yeah. Yeah. With the kids and the eyeballs and the bits and things. Yeah. Is that is that nominated for any Oscars? ah I don't know. hey I don't know. That's like we, I just get the list and I don't watch the show and I don't watch and I don't really follow up and I don't look at the other nominee categories. We just watch those movies and that's pretty much it.
Warhammer Painting Techniques
00:02:40
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it's It's pretty much the shittiest coverage of the Oscar nominees on the internet. but we I digress. we can We can go back to crap tonight. I just wanted to fix see how that... yeah i've just I've just realized why you asked that question. Sorry. Yeah, last week we spent three and a half hours from like 10 to 1 You can slowly see that the it just devolve over the three and a half hours into just...
00:03:10
Speaker
Kind of chaos. It's fun. Yeah. It was a good time. Yeah. Anyways. oh Anything? ah Chris, you said you had like game or something. You want to do that first? We'll do that last, mate. We'll that last. OK. So Sizzle, there's a little game that Chris has brought on.
00:03:28
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it may or may not involve some dice. We'll see. um Does anyone want to go first, talking about what they've been working on?
00:03:37
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That's a bad hosting question. ah Bad Ed. um I'll go first. I'll break the ice.
00:03:48
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and I like that idea. and I think I should go first. Yeah, I'll go first. So i went a while, probably. a year like when our last episode was probably since December 2024 it's probably the last last time that I probably did something um since I did any kind of like gluing models together and painting them miniatures primarily Warhammer is what I usually do um but recently i played a game
00:04:23
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of Warhammer 40k and I realized how much I needed couple models to make my army better and I just so happened to have purchased one of them in the UK with Chris in Sheffield right?
00:04:39
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Yes mate. um And I was like, I should build that. And it's the Primark Magnus the Red. He's got giant wings. It is a daunting, was a daunting task to just start.
00:04:52
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Because I knew anyone knows anything about highlighting and feathers, it's a lot of highlighting.
00:05:02
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I don't think you got a lot of sleep that last week there, did you, Ed? Yeah, no. It was it was literally like... nine out of 14 days of me staying up past 1 a.m. m just like working on it i said in the uh i said in the chat i love it when i wake up obviously because there's five hour time difference i love it when i wake when when i wake up first thing and ed's like i'm just having my morning tea and ed's still awake painting and just sending sending photos and where is that too I'm getting into bed and I'm getting messages of Ed still painting. It's like, dude, like go to bed. like water are I'm going to sleep. What are you doing? I had a couple of 3 a.m. m nights. because he
00:05:45
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What happens is you just start painting and it's like 10 p.m. 9, 10. That's when I usually would start. and then like You look up and it's like, fuck, it's 1230. Well, I'm just going finish this one part.
00:05:57
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And then it's 3
00:06:03
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But yeah, um it's been ah quite a journey, a lot of hours. Started with airbrushing the base paint on it, doing kind of like a zenithal, starting with black, going over um with. So what I did was I started with black, right?
00:06:22
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This is airbrushing black. Then I, from the bottom, airbrushed it with black and blue mixture. So like the shadowy parts had like a blueish.
00:06:34
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Like a blue tint. Yeah, blue tint. You went top, bottom to top. Bottom to top. Yep. With that color. Then I went from the top, his skin color, which is not what you see here because that's what highlighted over, but like the magenta, darker magenta color for his skin because he's a demon.
00:06:53
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so for So for context, this thing's like a 12 inch tall... yeah like Herculean figure dude with like the most ridiculously huge wings. So like total, total height, maybe like 12 inches or however many centimeters that Wings spans like seven inches. Yeah. it's yeah And, out and like it's wings are bright blue bodies, bright red kind of like a generalizing just cause you know, the, the audio medium and I'm watching ed whip this thing around in space. Like it's like, it's not fragile and it's stressing me out.
00:07:26
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What you doing? Yep, there it is. Yeah, it's like... No, it's, yeah. So the wings were, I did it in pieces. i did I glued the wings on after they were painted.
00:07:40
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So each wing, I did a gradient from colors of magenta to blue to black. From the in us to the out, black would be the edge of the wings.
00:07:53
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And the airbrush is perfect for that. Mm-hmm. and did you did you blend Did you do all the blending and stuff with the airbrush, or did you did you come back in later with brushing and and do blending between the colors? It's like a gradient across. um It was all airbrush.
00:08:08
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Nice. There was a little bit of fixing, but and I didn't really need to. So what I had to do... So remember, it was black. And then I did the magenta.
00:08:20
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And then and then um what I had to do to get the blue to come through in the middle, I had to go with white in the middle first and then over it with blue.
00:08:33
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Because it's additive. And like, otherwise blue on top of black is going to look like it's yeah really dark blue. right Like barely able to see blue. Yeah. yeah um That's what you got to keep considering when using lighter colors, is what base is underneath and how it'll shine through. Because you might be sitting there putting on eight coats to try and get it to look actually blue when you're putting it on black.
00:08:55
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Well, then you also have to consider the stuff you put on top of it after the fact that it will typically darken it as well. So, yeah. So, he has these runes on his wings. This was an interesting thing. So, like, wanted them to be bright, glowy, green runes.
00:09:12
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And in my head, I was going to use my airbrush, right? You just, like, spray a little. It looks like it's, like, a light, you know, glowing. But I didn't have...
00:09:25
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just like I think was just lazy. That's what was. I didn't want to get the air airbrush out again. And ah what I ended up doing is interesting. i I painted the runes white.
00:09:41
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And then I got the contrast paint, the like green, glowy, it's not glowy, but it's like it's contrast paint that's like bright green. yeah And I put that over, I i don't know, sorry, it was a step before that.
00:09:53
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I took it ah ah brush and I dry brushed white. all around it, like light dry brush. So it's almost like an airbrush, essentially.
00:10:05
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like It's like a ray tracing effect, kind of so it's like light scattering out from it. Yeah, and then and then I just took the green contrast paint and went over that entire area. And then afterwards came in with a brush and end um did the highlights around it and stuff.
00:10:22
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So that it made it look like I used an airbrush, but I didn't. Look at this guy. Yeah. so okay So can you play with that thing now? Like, is that like, oh yeah. You, you put that on the table and you get your rulers out and.
00:10:35
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Yep. Starting. yes Everything is line of sight to it. If you're wondering, cause it's very visible. So, so I have a question. This is kind of more about 40 and just in general, or like it may be, maybe for people out there who are listening and are interested in painting, like.
00:10:49
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Because there's a difference between I think what a lot of us are doing, like some of us are doing kind of like shit that sits on your shelves. You're doing stuff that you play with, like it's active wargaming. Like, is there something special that you need to do when you're done? Like you just spent a ton of hours on that.
00:11:04
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Is there anything you need to do at the end to like coat that with like a shellac so that way when you're touching it with your Cheeto fingers while playing 40K, you're not just ripping the the layers of paint off over time?
00:11:17
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Yeah. So I haven't done it yet on this guy, but I try to spray a matte clear spray no go from a rattle can over it.
00:11:28
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Now, yet mean do you have to do like four codes that so it's like, pur like weather or like resistant or is it usually pretty good? Yeah, just one. Cool. um But I haven't encountered a situation where like, oh man, it would have been better if I did more. So I don't know.
00:11:43
Speaker
But could you just keep because you just keep buying new ones and you don't play with the ones the existing ones very much. so um I can tell like I've gotten better with a fine brush because I'm starting to do like outlining of like tiny, tiny stuff. and it When you're doing it, you're like, God, no one's going to see this. But when you bring it away from you, it's like it it's impressive. like It pops things out.
00:12:13
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And I'm talking like
00:12:17
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like if there's a shape and you paint it some color and then you around the edge of that shape you do a highlight even if it doesn't match lighting it's just because it's a miniature it's almost like a cartoon effect where it makes it pop out i'm trying to remember what they call it it's Like a cell shaded kind of thing. Games Workshop does it on their like space marine panels where they do like a light, light blue line around each edge of the like the thigh panel, the arms and stuff. And it it it makes things pop out.
00:12:53
Speaker
It's like an edge highlighting kind of. It definitely is. Yeah. But it's it's it's not edge highlighting because it's responding to light from a particular angle. It's just like all around the entire.
00:13:05
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This emphasizing kind of, yeah, edges. um so i've been working on that and
00:13:15
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the one of the harder parts that was kind of like a i'm new to this it's glazing you know i'm talking about nay hey hey but it's really hard to do and i it takes patience and maybe i should have used my um hair dryer a little more but You take paint that's more watered down, and you do gradient from like a dark to a lighter color.
00:13:42
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And because it's like wet, it blends better. So like generally, an airbrush does it perfectly, like instantly. But with a brush, you got to glaze it. They say call it glaze because it's like wet.
00:13:57
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And you go start from like like here on his orb, on his thing. It went from a dark green to a light green to white. from bottom to top. Nice.
00:14:08
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So that's all with a brush, not an airbrush. Like in multiple multiple passes, like where you do a little bit, let it dry, do a little bit of dry. So you're controlling the amount of pigment. So I got the two colors, the one I'm going to and the one I'm starting with at the bottom. And then I'm blending them on my palette and using that with a little more water than usual and going from dark to light.
00:14:30
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And it took a few passes for me to like figure it out. go I'm like, oh, that doesn't look right. Because sometimes it'll look right. with all the water, like wetness in it, but then it dries and it doesn't look right. So then I have to go back into it. You know what I mean But ah yeah, it took a few tries, but it ended up being okay.
00:14:49
Speaker
Could be better probably. Clearly I'm a noob at it, but you gotta to start somewhere, right? It looks pretty good, Ed. I'm not gonna keep giving you compliments, so stop fishing for him.
00:15:01
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So what do you think of it? no I also did a freehand. Look at this piece of shit. Look at this. It's not very good, is it? in his In his hand, he's got an eyeball like in his hand, palm.
00:15:13
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He's holding it up. And there's nothing like um in the the mold of the plastic that shows it's an eye. It's just a sphere.
00:15:26
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from the plastic. So I had to free, I free handed the pupil and the red veins and stuff like that. So that was cool. Nice.
00:15:37
Speaker
Uh, so this is for what games is for it? Warhammer 40 K. Why, why is he so big? Cause he's a primark. So he's like, he was a son of the emperor and then he turned to chaos and he's the leader of one of the thousand sounds legion.
00:15:58
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There's not many of them out there. prime so it's So is he like a capital ship? Is that kind of like the equivalent? like Yeah, yeah. like He's immortal like because he's chaos. He's like giving in to the demons a little too much.
00:16:15
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So when when you play him in your game, does he basically just destroy everyone? Yeah. like they have to To kill him, they have to devote a lot of stuff to kill him.
00:16:25
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and he's yeah he supports my army in a way this army the thousand sons army does a lot of magic so he he augments that really well so the real question is do you have a custom foam case that that crazy thing fits in so you can travel with it that's the next question i don't know how i'm gonna travel with him it's like it's like I'm going to have to just put it in my back seat and hope it doesn't tip over. Like in a box or something. Yeah, you need you need like a box. It's got like the sticky Velcro circles on it. And then you put them on the bottom of it too so it just sits up straight in the box. So if even if the box moves, like he's still just stuck in space. i I do have a lot of foam and I have big tote crates. So it's possible. i But you know where am i going to put the rest of the army if I'm using it all for him? You know what I mean? like it's's I have to figure it out.
Model Assembly and Repair Tips
00:17:20
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Oh, space a concern? Is that like... Are you talking about just in the foam or like... In the amount of totes I have. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, yeah. But... Yeah, so that was interesting. i also did something new I've never done on his cloth, white apron-y thing that's coming from his crotch.
00:17:41
Speaker
Loincloth? Loincloth. Yeah, loincloth. Thank you. It's a pretty big cloth. Yeah. Usually... it's past his knees. Yeah. yeah must be Must be covering something pretty... That's as tall as a... That cloth right there is as tall as a space marine. And space marine are huge.
00:17:59
Speaker
like a Space marines. It's like a pendulum. But anyway, I usually do a cloth, for especially with this white. I do like a... dark gray to white but because he's like magic and stuff you know um I got the idea from Games Workshop the guy there on the tutorial I go to like a bunch of tutorials when I make my guy And he did this thing where he watered down a bright green and used that as a shade.
00:18:30
Speaker
A wash, rather. So is this on YouTube, Ed? Yeah. Who is it? ah It's... but What's his name? It's the Two Thin Coats guy. Two Thin Coats, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:43
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I'm trying to remember his name. But yeah, he watered down it bright green and used it as a wash, and it comes out like cool because it's like... magic greenish in the crevices Duncan Rhodes is his name yeah
00:19:04
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other than that there's a lot of using a tiny ass brush ass brush yeah oh my mishap I gotta talk about that I dropped him No!
00:19:21
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Towards the end of being done with him, um I was working on the base, so he wasn't on a base, and I just put him to the side, put him on a thing, and it just I didn't realize there was nothing under it to support the weight, and he just fell on the ground. and I was like, fuck!
00:19:38
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um couple pieces. His head came off, which was fine. I glued it back on. His knee thing broke off. I didn't realize until the next day, but I glued that back on. But the biggest thing was the end of his staff broke off.
00:19:54
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And it's very... Yeah, the tip. The end is weight. It's got that ball that I was talking about that I painted, the green ball. It's weighted. So like if I just tried to glue it back on, I'd have to be sitting here for like...
00:20:09
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10 minutes with super glue holding it and not move. i was like, how the fuck am i to that? So I tried it, right? I'm sitting there three, four minutes and I'm moving here and there. And i'm like God, it's not staying. It's not saying I was like freaking out guys. I was i like, what am I going to do?
00:20:26
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and I just like looked around my table and I saw my little drill that I had bought semi recently. Yeah. and i was like wait a second what drills this mate talk to me it's like a little hand drill that you use your fingers just to drill um i like buying tools mate that i'll never use it's one of these yes it's one of those oh i've got one of them i've had it about three years and the top twit the top twists so you so you can put pressure on the top and twist like this yeah so it's it's good with miniatures if you want to like put it through the bottom of their head and then paint their head or something
00:21:04
Speaker
it's good It's a good way to hold parts of a miniature if you don't have a base for the classic holder to hold. um But yeah, so I used that drill and I went in one end with it.
00:21:17
Speaker
Yeah, there you go. Oh, wow. go. You got lots of drill bits for that. um With the smallest drill bit, I went in with it on one end and went in the other. And I happened to have a sewing needle that I clipped down to like a centimeter or maybe a little less.
00:21:33
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And I just went in one end with that one and with the other and glued it. And it was perfect. Perfect.
00:21:39
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Like a reinforcement, like a pin that held ah holds it into the right spot. So otherwise, because I can't say how many times I've done that, try to superglue something small back together. It's like, I can superglue it. Then I get it. It's crooked. And then there's a big blob of superglue it. It's like, well, that turned out worse in every way. and i i don't know. It's exactly right. i've I've done it before, but I've used helping hands. You know what those are Yeah.
00:22:02
Speaker
There's these little, it's like a base thing with clips, like arms with clips at Mate, I'm going to talk about them bad boys. So like I tried to use that to to glue something similar to this situation together. Yeah. And it's got a magnifying glass on it. Yeah.
00:22:21
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Look at us. Bunch of dorks. I like that, Chris. That's good. got ah he's Like a paint a paint thing. Yeah, it tall holds little things up so can paint them.
00:22:35
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ah But no, like I tried. It actually worked, but it took a lot of maneuvering and f finagling with it to like hold the two things together with those clips and in the in the right in the right spot. Yeah, it's like you got them together, but then it's like, how do you make these micro-adjustment clips stay in that perfect spot?
00:22:54
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o Yeah, so that's I didn't want to do that. So I luckily thought of the the solution. um I've also started painting this guy as an infernal master, same army.
00:23:08
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um This is the second guy I've painted for this army that's like this. He's got so much detail on him. It's kind of annoying. um I painted him his front part first before I put him on the base.
00:23:24
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And now that he's on the base, I can focus on the cloak, which is the last thing I have to do on him. And the cloak, I'm a little daunted by it because cloth is so hard for me. It's like going to involve glazing.
00:23:36
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from a dark gradient to light gradient on the in the folds and stuff. But I'm thinking I'm going to do like some kind of like jade green. like this blue It's starting right now as blue, like a navy blue. And I'm going to come up to like a jade slash green highlight.
00:23:52
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Very colorful. We'll see. Very colorful, people. yeah This army is like all about change and different colors, pink and whatever.
00:24:03
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when you and When you send photos, Ed, of all the bits you're working on, you don't fuck about, mate. You don't shy away from color.
00:24:14
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At all. lot It's not like building a a gray but Star Destroyer or the robots that I build. You you go all in, mate. You're like fucking...
00:24:25
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and it He uses all the colors in the whole palette. yeah That's this army. That's this army. It's the way it is. And it requires more brushwork because of that. Because if you're doing like a gray or silver thing, that's kind of like it's easier because it's you can dry brush a lot of it, get that done, and it still looks spectacular.
00:24:44
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um And you can make mistakes and it's not that bad. This is like, fuck, I got like a red on a green, and I got to like fix it. you know like It's just fucking annoying. um there's this There's these little panels in here where you do like the stripes, and you paint them. like One's yellow, one's red on this guy.
00:25:02
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The other guy I have is blue and yellow. I remember struggling so hard painting like those tiny little stripes this time around no struggle for some reason I like I think you you get better trust me you get better you do it and then you I use the wash to get into the crevices between the stripes that helps like make them pop and gets rid of maybe even some mistakes are you doing colors straight out of the pot or are you doing a lot of mixes
00:25:33
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Mostly out of the pot. it so yeah Because you're doing it on Army, you don't have to worry about like how do I match this color I did two months ago. and when i when start When I start highlighting, I just start mixing. Because the red on this guy, the panels, I start with a dark red. I had the orangey red ready, all ready out of the thing. But then I wanted something a little brighter, so I was adding a little white and...
00:26:01
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or just pure orange is what I did. And glazing or mixing that in with the red and highlighting up from that. So when when you're painting straight from the pot, do you water that down at all?
00:26:15
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Yes. So I used to not. You have to. Like, you really do. And um to make it look good, anyway, um ah you can look at my stuff early on. I definitely didn't, and I should have, because it gets a little clump clumpier, a little uneven, not as smooth, if you will. Globface. Globface painting, yeah. um I also... Oops, sorry. Sorry.
00:26:39
Speaker
If you were using, say you were, so obviously <unk>r you squirt your paint onto your palette and then would you just like put a few drops of water on that and then mix it in? ah No, I would get water from, like dip the brush in the water and that's enough water.
00:26:56
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Right. Generally. are you Have you moved over to wet pallets, Ed? like Are you a wet pallet guy? Yeah, I am. no god yeah It preserves paint when you leave because you can close it up and it keeps it on that.
00:27:10
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It's like parchment paper that's on it. but um So you've got notes. I get a gloss on there. Staying up until 3 a.m. m So you can just go to bed anytime you want if you've got a wet pallet. You don't need to stay up until your paint is finished. That's true. But yeah but but then you you have to clean your brushes more, though. So you might as well just do it all once. yeah off Brush cleaning is mandatory. You have to. you going to be buying brushes left and right? um No, I put a glob down. i pull it some of it away.
00:27:41
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You know, like from the glob and then I twist the brush in it. And then I test it. You'll see like good miniature painters do this. they Their thumbnail has like lines all over it because they're testing it at first.
00:27:56
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Because a lot of times, you do that and you go right to the model and it's like, fuck, that was a too big of a glob on the at the start. But then later, it's perfect. So you got to get rid of that. Oh, sorry.
00:28:09
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That's my phone. That won't happen. I'd say that's a that's a i but say that's a unique soundboard choice there. You're making some purchases. i do you make That's why like I got a text message to sound because it's like I can hear it easily. But anyway, yeah. So like you go to the model and it's like a glob and you're like, oh, god damn it. But if if you would have just like test brushed on your thumb once, you can get a perfect line after that.
00:28:38
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But that's that's the stuff I've learned recently. like this is a year I'm years into it now. so It's like doing this. it's like I've realized. Doing the highlighting on this magnus and the feathers and stuff.
00:28:50
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So do you think that guy's the best? Yes. Yes, by far. I did a new technique that I learned from Duncan Rhodes on his horns. Where you just do like Like you have the base red and brown, and then you take the light ivory watered down little bit more than usual. You just use streaks going up constantly.
00:29:15
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And it kind of like looks like bone from one color to the next. It's really cool. Kind of like how you do flesh where you do red or like red color underneath and and day i do the flesh over the top of so it. kind of looks like it's yeah yeah fleshy. this is like it's like Yeah, it's streaky because it's a bone.
00:29:33
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if you If you look at the picture I've sent you guys, you can probably see it, but I thought it the the effect was really cool. And you do a lot of claws and horns that wear you that is useful, so especially in Warhammer.
00:29:46
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oh But ah yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything else. So ah i mean so what's what's next? do you have anything like ah after this, or does it just continue with more army stuff? Or are those the only two you have left?
00:29:58
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No, I have other stuff. I have other stuff. Always other stuff. um Nice. One last thing on this. The gold. Gold. I won't paint gold unless it's on brown.
00:30:13
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i don't know if you've noticed in my pictures, my work in progress, there's a lot of brown I'm using as one of like the starting points. I just find gold metallic paint painted over brown is so much better because like if it's over white...
00:30:30
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or a lighter color, or even black, like you can see where it's not uniform when you're painting the gold, and it just annoys me. Unless you're doing with an airbrush, obviously. So it's annoyingly uneven paint when you paint over other colors. But with brown, because gold is close to brown, believe it or not, um you could just do one coat over it with gold, and it looks...
00:30:55
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fine perfect have have you ever tried the uh like the metallic wax kind of paints like where it's uh chris is like you looking at the horns yeah i'm looking at all of it mate it's
00:31:12
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because i had that I've had that same issue with golds and like other metallics like you were talking about where I'm a paint like I'm using like a wet paint and like the pigment kind of gets like it's not uniform but I've actually I think I have one here on my desk no I don't I don't know where it went oh yeah here it is it's a it's called AK true metal it comes in like a almost like an oil paint tube it's like a wax it's like a wax made yeah it's colored wax And it goes on so it's like it goes on super smooth and you can kind of work it around. It's like a out it's at i don't it's really interesting how it works and behaves differently because there's not really a medium.
00:31:50
Speaker
Does it go with acrylic okay? Do you know? or yeah Yeah, I think this isn't this is an acrylic wax. Sometimes like I know with going with oil paints on acrylic, you have to coat it first with gloss or something else or whatever.
00:32:06
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No, I would say this almost actually goes on better with acrylics because it has that little bit of grit on like a varnish or something that would... make it kind of smear around a little too much. You could like wipe it off because I would say when I use that, I have to like let it dry a little bit before. Yeah. So that's through these metallic paints. My tip is you want more of uniform color gold over brown and silver over black.
00:32:31
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Yeah. Generally what I do.
Exploring Warhammer Lore and Projects
00:32:36
Speaker
Cool. That's it so far, I think. Oh, i did I did a couple other flying dudes for this army, but I speed painted those, so they're not as impressive. um So have you played this guy yet?
00:32:48
Speaker
No. Next week. Next Saturday. All my friends are like, oh, God, i will we got to play. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to lose, but I still want to play. it Yeah. um yeah i thought he was I thought he was immortal. how are you going to lose? What the hell? Well, when he dies, he doesn't actually die, I guess. so what What kind of fucking artillery are they packing, mate, to take that bad boy down? ah The guy I'm playing, think it he's going to be playing Adamek, so like the robot army.
00:33:18
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So...
00:33:21
Speaker
I'm nodding like know what you're talking about. Yeah, I know. So are you saying like a big robot? Is that kind of what his equivalent would be? Just a bunch of robot dudes.
00:33:32
Speaker
Like the sit luck the ones we saw at Warhammer World? Yeah. Adeptus Mechanicus. yeah they they They live on Mars and they kind of not really serve the empire Emperor. They're on the Emperor's side, but They like knowledge.
00:33:49
Speaker
Adeptus Mechanicus. Yes. Yes. That sounds metal. Metal as fuck. I love all the names in Warhammer. It's so good. Even the names of their paints, which are also just names from Warhammer.
00:34:04
Speaker
but anyway You know, there's a metal band called Bolt Thrower. Oh, nice. All their songs and all their albums and everything. oh It's all the lyrics are based on Warhammer lore. Oh, that's awesome.
00:34:18
Speaker
All their artwork's done by the same people that do the old school like Blood Bowl games and stuff. Blood Bowl, yeah. Yeah, that oh old games workshop artist. I don't know who they are, but he does all the artwork for the yeah bolt thrower, yeah.
00:34:34
Speaker
so So your friend doesn't have Call? Is that his name? C-A-W-L? Valerius Call? Yeah. I think he does. Because that seems like it's the equivalent character. equivalent character Here you go, Chris. I'll put it in the chat. that i don't think he's as big, though.
00:34:50
Speaker
maybe i don't know i don't think he does, actually. If he's huge. but yeah Look at that dude. Fucking hell.
00:34:58
Speaker
Hilarious call, yeah. Ed, I think you picked the wrong army. You should snort over. i do like this army, but he's already playing in it, so i was like, eh, I won't go. Yeah, that guy looks dope.
00:35:10
Speaker
Freaking cool. I can't even tell what's what on that. That's stressing out. There's a lot detail. Yeah, Hilarious call.
00:35:21
Speaker
Still not as colorful. Yeah. He got him there. Yeah. I don't think he's as big. He's not that big. Who's this guy? Who's this? Fucking... He's sick.
00:35:34
Speaker
Oh, he needs some... That guy needs some Nurgles rot. Look at that. I know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you do. Yeah. I'm trying to find them big robots, mate.
00:35:47
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything coming up next. Let me think. um have Is it them? Those are Chaos Knights. I have those.
00:35:58
Speaker
Yes. i You've seen them on my shelf, I think. they They should do like a like not a stop motion, they could do like a CGI stop motion 40K show. That's what they need. That would be cool. And it looks like almost like small soldiers style. They need to make a show like that, but it looks like it's made out of like the models. they i type but They'd have to make all their models.
00:36:23
Speaker
They could just make all their models with magnets and then move them around. or It can be CG, just make it look that way. Dude, I should show you mine. Chris is showing me all these Chaos Knights. I'm like, I have that. these these are all These are all photos from when we went to Warhammer World.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah. i've got more I've got more photos on here than Star Wars Celebration. that As you should. Both times we went there, it was fucking amazing. I love it, yeah. Add to cart, add to cart, add to cart, add to cart.
00:36:53
Speaker
No, I can't. I can't, Sean. Yeah, you can't. Buying stuff there is not smart, actually. It's more. Well, that's why that's why I can't even, I don't even entertain the idea of getting into 40K. Like, I did X-Wing miniatures, and that was bad enough.
00:37:08
Speaker
I can't imagine. Like, I just, do I can't. I can't do it. I watched this reel of this guy. He got asked by his friend, how do you play Warhammer? And he's like, I'll show you. he brings him over to a computer and he's like add to cart, add to cart.
00:37:23
Speaker
Spend $2,000. That's how you play. ah
00:37:30
Speaker
ah But yeah, it's a lot of money, but it's fun when you actually play it. i oh So coming up next, I'm painting some Tyranids because I also have a Tyranid army, which are those bugs, purple bug things.
00:37:41
Speaker
So I got a couple of those guys lined up. Some of them are flying gargoyle-like things, like little gargoyle things. So got to more wings. Tyranids, mate, that's my one piece of knowledge. that's the I dropped that on that girl in the Warhammer shop when she asked me what i was working on when i was buying paints. that's right I didn't want to tell her I was making robots out of yogurt pots. I was like, oh I'm just working on my Tyranids army. yeah Yep.
00:38:07
Speaker
of Smart. Now you can say thousand suns. want anyway Yeah, you can dig that hole deeper. but Just Mechanicus. Valerius Call.
00:38:19
Speaker
ah ah No, just for my son. yes He sent me for him. So Space Marines are Adeptus Astartes, and then the Atomac are Adeptus Mechanicus. Well, if anyone's still listening,
00:38:36
Speaker
that's second, mate. I think that's... um To say you've had a year off, and then you've dropped that bad boy, me Yeah, this is all in the last, like, month. Pretty impressive.
00:38:46
Speaker
I know. We've been getting nightly updates, mate. I love it. Morning morning updates. Yes. Yes. but Sweet. Who wants to go next? Chris!
00:38:59
Speaker
Damn it! All right, I'll go. um I don't know why I'm so adverse to going. um So, like Ed, I've... I took an extended period of time away. No excuse. Just I think it's part of the the you know, the the ADHD hyper hyper fixation cycle. Like I just i like it goes away and now it's like, oh, I'm ramping back up again. We should podcast.
00:39:24
Speaker
But I'm trying to come out at it this time with a different strategy, ah because before i would I think I would focus on one. kind of one thing at a time. And then there's always like hang up. So like, I'm very apprehensive.
00:39:38
Speaker
Like, cause usually it's just like, I'm very apprehensive to just like commit to something. I'm like very planning and like, all right, how do I want to like deconstruct this tie fighter? So I could be the most efficient with painting it. Cause I don't want to lose any of the detail.
00:39:49
Speaker
And so then I'll just kind of get stuck in these, like, like I need to let it dry. So then I can, you know, do this other thing. Cause I don't want to get my pizza fingers all over it.
Board Game Miniatures and Diorama Techniques
00:40:00
Speaker
And so like things just take forever. So now I'm coming out with different strategy. I'm like, what if I work on like five things at one time and just yeah like um yeah like, I'm always kind of, I'm always kind of moving. It's like, all right, today I'm feeling, I'm feeling like maybe i I could put up with cleaning my airbrush. So let's take all the shit into the room and let's just, just hit it hard.
00:40:19
Speaker
This is how I roll, Sean. This is how I roll. Yes, and i'm so I'm making a lot of progress, and I'm also'm also making a lot of messes. um And the thing that kind of kicked this off was I got a new game for Christmas, one that i was I've been asking for, and that is ah the Days of Wonder Battle of Hoth um board game.
00:40:42
Speaker
And so that's like, it's not quite 40K. It's like a 30-minute game for like, beginner people, uh, for anybody who's familiar with the memoir 44 game mechanic, it's just built on top of that.
00:40:55
Speaker
Um, it's meant for like families and just beginners and whatever. So it's like a 30 minute game, but it comes in a couple of little miniatures. Uh, just a couple looked like a lot to me. yeah, Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of little people, but nothing nothing like nothing too crazy. so how many um So there's maybe like 15 little dudes. They're maybe about an inch tall, like on the good guy side, maybe 20 on the bad guy side. It comes with three AT-ATs. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:41:24
Speaker
ah Two, so it's all based on Hoth. And so there's two kind of um rebel ion cannons. Not the ion cannons, but like the butt like the turret, the turret blaster cannon ones. The first transport is away.
00:41:39
Speaker
Exactly. And four ah four man in a bathtub droids. And nine snowspeeders. So what I've done so far, is so that's kind of caught me back into it. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to play the game anytime soon because Madison sure as hell not going to play with me. So I might as well just sit there and like like my wife. and so it's like i well ah just You had said man in a bathtub droid. What's that?
00:42:06
Speaker
The man in a bathtub. the the look the the The Viper droid. Me, I'm never not going to hear that now. Why have I never heard that before? You've never heard you never heard him say men men about men about that. That's good. i like that.
00:42:22
Speaker
but about stuff so fuck ah god damn it They're my life top top three droids there. are easy probe draws like yeah i can't believe I can't believe you've never heard it called that, man. because that's not I did not make that up. That's not for me. that So I will not take credit for that. Man in a bathtub. I love it. yeah Yeah, you will never unhear it. and like is It's like the That Guy's Wise thing in Return the Jedi. That Guy's Wise.
00:42:50
Speaker
So yeah, Madison's not going to play with me. So I want to enjoy the game, so I might as well paint the miniatures. And plus, I think that's an easy stuff like this. Like this is kind of like the X-Wing 2.0, where it's like it's something small. I got into modeling by customizing those X-Wing pieces.
00:43:05
Speaker
so this is easy. Like it's easy and easy kind of quick wins. So I get back into the swing of things. So I started doing that. I i airbrushed them. Um, I didn't do the snow speeders. Like I did. They ah prime them, but I'm getting to do them next. because they're just so much more complicated. I'm like, I don't want, I, I hate masking more than anything in the world. yeah Like,
00:43:25
Speaker
I don't care how many times I watch a YouTube video. They're like, just press it on and then just take the back of your thing and push it on. It's easy, doesn't it? It's perfect. and Every time I do it, it's like, cool. That looks like a dog shit every single time. And it's like placing tape exactly where you want it is so hard to do. It's so hard to do. Oh, what's it like to have hands that don't shake your whole life? That must be nice, isn't it? freaking rub it in so i've used masking tape on a model for the first time this week and and it did not it did not go according to plan well i guess it's a lot of touch-ups afterwards it's like oh i guess it's just gonna be a dirty droid now isn't it it's just gonna be really dirty
00:44:12
Speaker
So all in all, I started with the AT-ATs. They were the easiest. Base coated them. So here's here's what they here's what they kind of look like. they're kind of I haven't matte coated them yet. so they still have their shiny gloss coat on. Nice. ah Basically primed them.
00:44:27
Speaker
I did some light filter work on it, which is so it would be like a lighter a lighter wash kind of coat, but on certain areas to kind of lighten some of the primer so I didn't want to have to paint it on.
00:44:39
Speaker
a little airbrush, Sean. No, i did I only airbrushed the primer. Everything else was brush coating after that. Because they're just so small and my hands shake like too. I'm not airbrushing stuff like this. It'll just be a disaster.
00:44:54
Speaker
I have an airbrush, semi-expensive airbrush, that can get a small enough spray where I could do detail with it. But it scares the shit out of me. Yeah, I have stuff like that. I can't even imagine.
00:45:10
Speaker
I was going to airbrush like the the front window on the head. yeah. I was going to do that white and then do like a bright red on it. But then it's like as I'm looking at it going, I have an airbrush that can do it.
00:45:21
Speaker
But I don't have the hands that can do where I want it to be. It would be like white line across like the mouth. be like nailed it. It'd cool because you get That's exactly want.
00:45:31
Speaker
You get a glow effect. That'd be really good. It would be cool. Yeah, it would be very cool. like But since I only have three, I'll do that on a different like a different one. I want you to try and send us your first attempt because I want to see if i laugh or not.
00:45:43
Speaker
so i have So I don't know if you guys have this. Do you guys have like ah an item that you use to test? like that's like your That's like your dummy piece that you're like, is this the right color? Is this like a a technique on it? like Because I have this old...
00:45:57
Speaker
paper i have this old like ah it's like the micro machines at a TST. So he's just like, he's probably got 35 coats of paint on him that I just like, I'm always testing stuff. It's like, Oh, how's that? How's that snow look on the feet? Does that look okay? How's this look? And so he just, so he just keeps getting coated and stuff. And,
00:46:15
Speaker
That's my test one. So i'll maybe I'll test the the thin airbrush on that. But no, so I did. actually do a piece of paper. I have it right next. Because you never know if it's going to start splattering or something. Because I hate, fucking hate that.
00:46:28
Speaker
But I always test it. I change colors. I'm always testing. Or if I don't, if I put it down for a minute, a second or whatever, I pick it back out I got to test it. Make sure it's going to come out correctly. Oh, yeah. Half my half my paint that I buy is atomized throughout my home or on everything else and not the models that I intended to be on. So, yeah, it's always being tested or wasted in some way.
00:46:47
Speaker
ah Plus, you get a feel of the aim. Yeah. Like that's why I'll airbrush this up. yeah I'll airbrush my hand. Like the I'll put it, I'll gloves on and I'll do it like right where my finger, my index finger meets my thumb, but the little, the L. Yeah. it' So I'll spray there just to kind of, cause the worst part is going to the mom. Oh fuck. That's lower or higher than I wanted or whatever.
00:47:08
Speaker
Oh, and especially with like grays. Cause it's like at my whole, uh, spray booth is gray. So it's like, is it spraying anything? And next thing you know, I just have like a big glob running down. it's like, yeah, I guess it was cool. That's awesome.
00:47:20
Speaker
Um, So yeah, I did the three AT-ATs. Those turned out fine. i didn't I don't think I did anything too special with them. um Just kind of getting back into the swing of gray filter, seal coating, and then kind of doing like a null in oil, just a basic wash throughout the pieces. Nothing too crazy. um And then using some of my AK Interactive...
00:47:46
Speaker
snow effects that I got years ago. AK is good. AK is the best. I got, um, so I got used my, my terrains, snow diorama stuff. And then I also used my acrylic snow sprinkles.
00:47:59
Speaker
What's the, what's that, Sean? These, so AK interactive, who I am huge fan boy of, they are pretty sure they're based out of Spain. They make a lot of, I've got some of their products yet. I've got some of their bits.
00:48:11
Speaker
I, what the snow stuff was. Yeah. so's ah So they make a bunch of diorama products, and it so it looks like it looks like that marshmallow fluff stuff. Oh, yeah. um and it So it's kind of just a like little bits of foam that you can – it's acrylic base, so you can get it with water and kind of like mix it up and kind of make ah like snow. oh So like I did it on my Viper Droids here.
00:48:35
Speaker
So I put it on the base really small. Come on. There you kind of see it on the bottom. There it Man about that. Man about that. So, and you can control it. it's So it's got, so it's got all this water in it. And so it's evaporates. It kind of sinks down and then you're left with like the, the snow texture. sweet so that's what that, the other stuff you just sprinkle on top. Yeah.
00:48:58
Speaker
So that's what that looks like. So it's more of the hard earth packed snow and the snow sprinkles. This is very similar, but this is more for like the edges of things. um So it's a little bit maybe thicker, like a almost like it it's it's like a thicker. um Yeah, think for the edges, like it's a thicker medium. So it actually has like more bubbles and stuff in it. So you kind of see it dried in the lid there. The other stuff is like a dust.
00:49:27
Speaker
No, it's all it's all liquid. So you put all of it on with paintbrush. So the other one's more of like a foam, like a liquid foam. even know and this one And this one looks more like little be like little teeny tiny beads in like a goop.
00:49:45
Speaker
So this is more like, oh, if you have like a tank tread mark that's in snow, like this is the stuff that would be like a little more, it's slush. Slush, that's the word looking for. It's more like a slush. and And no, I did not buy these. So for people, I don't go out and buy just these crazy specific products. I went to a diorama masterclass where they just teach how to do stuff. It was sponsored by AK. And depending many people come, they just give away all this stuff for free. So it's just like, give show me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me.
00:50:12
Speaker
that that That was when I still lived in the Bay area. And that's what led me to, i don't know if you could see it back there. I have a little diorama of the ATAT or ATST standing there. And it's got the little Legion characters that I used. So sco troopers. Yeah. No, they're scout troopers. Oh, scout troopers, yeah. Yeah, scout troopers. um Cool. AK stuff rules. I love their weathering. But yeah, so I did so i did the little cannons. I did these similar.
00:50:39
Speaker
i sweet primed them in gray. Then i i brushed white, on ah very watered down white on top of it to try kind of doing the reverse. um Same kind of thing, metallics. I use that wax metallic on all the little metal parts and the gun barrels, and then I put a little bit of snow on the edges here.
00:50:58
Speaker
Nothing crazy. I don't need it going too hard in the paint. Looks good. So yeah, i have a bunch of all that kind of stuff, and now I'm getting ready to do my little my little snowspeers they're snow speeders. my snow speeders.
00:51:10
Speaker
Yesterday, I was actually looking up. I'm going to do the different paint schemes. So I'm going to do like the the orange. I'm going to the light gray. Then I'm going to do like the Action fleet, micro machines, black with orange on like one or two as well.
00:51:23
Speaker
um So that's what got me back into this. So i'm but I've been really, really excited. Kind of, I have like a, we have a gear room. It's like a spare room in our house. It's like all of our backpacking and stuff. That's where like the laser cutter and stuff is. So I just set my airbrush thing up on top of the laser cutter and just have it vented out the window. And so i'm just like leaving it there while I'm doing all this. So I could just go in there and be like,
00:51:47
Speaker
but ba ba baby baby but I'll go and then just like leave. So i don't have to keep cleaning it up. And so that's been really helpful. um Cause I've also been working on some other stuff while that stuff's been drying. And cause therefore what when I work on a single project, I run into this issue where I'll spray something, it'll dry, but then I'll start working it too much.
00:52:10
Speaker
And it'll, I'll start like peeling layers back off because they haven't been fully cured or whatever. And I just get pissed and stop. um my other big project so i'll go through the little ones first i have a bunch of stuff that's not been painted but i've built so i have like this little all black x-wing right now that so he's now been primed and he's gonna be ready to be painted classic x-wing or uh it's a classic yeah i said I have this turret this that Star turret that I finally primed and I can finish painting that. I have another Snowspeeder from a Bandai kit that's going to go with a Bandai AT-AT.
00:52:53
Speaker
I have... ah Now I finally primed it. Oh, shit. He fell apart. It's Darth Vader. He's loosely put together. yeah that's That's why you don't fling stuff around.
00:53:07
Speaker
ah I forgot that I had that loosely put on there because i was disassembling it. Oh my god, that was funny. I'm sorry, that was funny. I feel bad if that's like... oh no it's not No, it's not broken. He's right here. um It's because it's all it was barely all held together because i had all the pieces apart spraying them. I think the sound was the best part. It was a crash. Is it just shattered on the desk? and like But no, there it is. It's Darth Vader's TIE Fighter. yeah TIE Advanced, so that's ready to be painted.
3D Printing and Customization
00:53:37
Speaker
Is that a Bandai kit? Yes, that's another Bandai kit. I have some Bandai need to get to, too. Like a Millennium Falcon and a TIE from Force Awakens.
00:53:49
Speaker
I... ah I don't know. I'm sure you could tell that I've now reorganized my office and now all pretty much all of my pile of shame is in here except for my ah perfect grade Millennium Falcon. And I think one other thing, but like now it's all I could see all the stuff I need to do. it's all here and in this bin, this cabinet here.
00:54:07
Speaker
um But that's ready to go. and the other thing I'm working on is is ah is a resin 3D print that I did that's been sitting around waiting for me to do.
00:54:20
Speaker
um which I kind of have a love-hate. I'm a big fan of 3D printing, but I'm also... like I think people on the internet make it seem way easier to deal with than it actually is, especially if you care about like detail and...
00:54:37
Speaker
and like just not like all the little bits and bobs and stuff. So I did this and I thought it looked great at first, but now I'm slowly adding. So here's the base. I'll show you the base first, but I'm customizing the base. So it's like a, like a round pedestal, all of this extra shit, all this extra wires and stuff, the stuff I'm adding because it looked,
00:54:58
Speaker
It looked terrible when merged. See the big, big seam through here. and im yeah I'm patching all that up. um But a lot of this will be covered. So like hypothetically, where's the front? That's the thing with 3D printing, right? You're printing different pieces you've put them together. Yeah. And so like that's what the front will look like when it's glued. Oh, shit. An imperial cog. OK. I know what's coming here. I think I do, too. And so this this little.
00:55:27
Speaker
Some color. So yeah, this is that's going to sit right there on that once that's little better. it's ah it's ah It's a bust. It's a bust. There's a bust here. I'll put the head on the bust.
00:55:40
Speaker
There you go. There's the... yeah Nice. I'm going to get i have to get the... I can't just use grays on this one. Nope. Got to get the blue out, Sean. Got to get the blue. And what's really cool is he is even he even comes with this little guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Are we going to talk about this? Or is it going to be a surprise for somebody?
00:56:02
Speaker
Well, I don't know if it i don't know i mean it is it is going to somebody, but I don't know if that somebody listens to this. so They're not going to fucking listen to this because they're currently off their tits on mushrooms in Vegas. so So I think it's so I mean, if it the surprise gets ruined, then that's just more more motivation for me to get it done.
00:56:21
Speaker
um It is a it is a Thrawn figure. It's a bust. um And it looks great at first, like all 3D printing stuff. It's like, oh that looks so good. But then you start like putting things together. It's like, oh my God, I have to do so much cleanup.
00:56:35
Speaker
yeah A lot of sanding. lot of sanding. And then you realize like, oh, it's resin. So like, I can't just like sand it and be done. It's like, no, I have to like take safety precautions because I don't want like brain cancer.
00:56:47
Speaker
So it's like, okay, I got to get like the bin out and get the water or wash it outside because that dust will kill me. and it's just, it becomes a whole ordeal. And I am, that's why i love the Bandai kits because it's just like their attention to detail is like what I'm looking for.
00:57:03
Speaker
um What are you using? do you Are you using like a Dremel or anything? for like Nothing. i'm not using anything powered just because the resin is so... Like you would think that it's like epoxy. So it's like, oh, it's super, super hard. But any resin that's printed is still fairly light. So I'm using like tiny stuff.
00:57:23
Speaker
So I'll answer your question. So first I am for some of the things I'm using like plastic putty to fill in, like give small gaps and seams and things because it's just easier to deal with.
00:57:33
Speaker
um Some stuff I'm actually using like resin with a UV light to fill gaps. Other parts I'm using small sanders.
00:57:44
Speaker
Like I'll use like sanding sticks, like these, these little guys, these little emery board strips. um I'll use. They're so useful. You sent me some of those a long time ago, mate, and they are so useful. Yeah. I had like, I ordered some on Amazon for like two bucks and they sent me like, Oh, you wanted a million of them.
00:58:02
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there you go it's like no what is it exactly so it's like it's like a nail file thing but they're real thin strips oh yeah yeah okay and but they and they come in all different like grits and stuff and i also have like the tamiya like big sheets that i cut into little sheets um i've got this thing that's like a it's like a pen but it's also got like the little files so it's got the files in it and you put them in there kind of like that screwdriver and you can go like i like that and I've got my... I also use this a lot.
00:58:34
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I use my scriber, my like by dental tools, basically. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like if you need to... like Because anytime you're filling and patching, like you need to re-add details. So like I need to re-scribe lines or kind of pick some stuff out. It's basically just a bunch of dental tools like stuff you that work on your teeth.
00:58:54
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um And I will say I have may or may not i may not have used one at some point in my life to like get... Something out of your tooth. Yeah, i was like, oh, and I'm like, oh, this is awesome. i do like This is a joke.
00:59:05
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For reference, this is a joke. because like I could do my own dental work. what the What is the point of it? I don't know why i'm paying somebody. That's a joke. That's not real. I'm not actually doing that. But ah but so the biggest the biggest thing with this is like ah Chris has inspired me because this bass looked like It looked like shit.
00:59:24
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Like it just really looked like shit. You can paint it well, like with the wires and stuff. So I have, so I've been slowly painting it here and there. So what I've done, Chris will probably get a kick out of this is it looked like shit before. Like you could see seams and stuff all the place. And I've slowly been covering it in old bass guitar wires,
00:59:43
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old old wiring so like I have so I've I've i've kept these things I've kept all these like old bass strings forever like I'm like I'm gonna use them for something and I have all this this old wiring and plastic bits and plastic wires and so I'm just guitars drink is so useful the one guitar strings oh yeah so useful yeah i can't in strings same thing yeah so i've been using that that little screwdriver drill thing we were talking about with the teeth so i use that and i drill holes in that bend it it bend it at 90 put it in there wrap it around and i'm kind of like wrapping things around in different spots this this part right here was original this big piece where it's all these cords wrapped around but all this twizzler
01:00:27
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But all this other stuff I'm kind of adding around. and you can see with new ones, i've like I've been priming it to kind of see how it looks. And then I've been adding new ones and slowly just making... All those wires be different colors, Sean.
01:00:38
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I'm going to try. going to see. I'm going to try. I'm going to try on some of them. Yeah, they'll all be different shades of gray. um The ones that are inside are going to be darker. So i think I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to play, i want to I'm going to map out what what I want Thrawn to look like, and I'm going to try to do like maybe darker shades, of like because he's got a lot of like blue.
01:01:02
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He's got red and yellow on his thing. I have no idea what color that thing is on his back. We'll figure that out at some point. And I'm going to probably do darker shades of those highlight colors in here. on those cored on the cables.
01:01:15
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What do you call them things? I can never pronounce it. does it The thing on his back? I have no clue. i've like the These things? On his shoulders? The lizard thing, yeah. Oh, Isalamari, yeah.
01:01:27
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Isalamari. That's what I say. could be wrong. Some malarian. I have no idea. But yeah, we'll figure that out. But I got to get it done obsessively. I think if you include like a some red lights here and there in it, in that base. Oh, yeah. Get some LEDs in it, Sean. So that way it can really i can really show the imperfections and globs and dust when it turns on and you just see it just covered in globs of overspray. I mean painted, but yeah. no Actually, it would be awesome.
01:02:02
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Because I do have LED... Sorry, I keep turning and talking to the side, but I do have LED... like wire that I could do something with.
01:02:13
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I don't know what I would do with it, but I can trigger it. Cause I think I sent, I think I sent one or two to Chris. I'm like, let's let's see if he figures out what these are. um They're just like little led wires that use like coin cell batteries on. Like you'll see like boy light hobby time using them all the time for like blaster bolts.
01:02:29
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And like, he just makes it look so he's a huge he's good startling iron. Just wire, wire, wire. poop poop boop pe like There you go. That's a switch. It's like, i love how easy you made that look. But I i got suckered into it and I bought a pack on AliExpress or something. i'm like, I'm going to do something with these. And three years later, as you can tell, have you used it I have not. i have plans though. That's what this. So the plan is I'm going to use this snow speeder with
01:03:02
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that at at in the, in the bin. i And I'm going to make a diorama ah with that snow. Good start. Guitar string. Oh yeah. And I'll, maybe I'll put a little Luke going like up, up to the thing. And then, and he's goingnna have a little led lightsaber. A guitar string from the back of the speeder to like wrapping around the AT, the edit. Yeah.
01:03:26
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I'm going to add it to the list of things I need to do. And, uh, well That's got the plan. Talking about the list, mate. know this is not a visual medium, but there's a fucking lot of stuff in that cupboard you've just opened. that And that's not even all of it. so There is. I think there is probably... He opened that up. i was like, God, it could be anything.
01:03:49
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before you but not look at Look at this. look at look at all I have a 3D model Woody from Toy Story I need to build. i have dan How many models did you get in Japan, Sean?
01:04:01
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Actually, I got, i think I only got a like one or two. Cause I did, I did get one, i get it I got a couple for free, which is one I'm about to, cause I wanted at the the panel. um But no, it was just, they didn't, there was, if I was into Gundams and stuff, I probably would have gotten a lot. Yeah. But yeah.
01:04:22
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yeah they I have enough. I have enough. And I have ideas. i was I've already been scheming on what I want to build next, even though I've got 35 things in progress. Like, I want to kitbash my own ship that that I have ideas on what want to do. But the final the final thing that I just got the idea for ah just the other day with the announcement of all the Mando and Grogu merch that's coming out.
01:04:51
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I was like, oh, you know what I did? i got, well, because I was just baffled when I saw the, leg I don't know if you see the Lego Razorcrest that they're releasing. It's like, it's the Razorcrest 2.0, trust us, it's the new ship. But it's got yellow, it's got a bunch of yellow on it now.
01:05:06
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um I got this in Japan. full This is one of the the gimme the free giveaways I got. I got a Razor Crest, like a little mini version. It's like a one... Is that Bandai?
01:05:21
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Yeah. It's Bandai 144, I think is the scale. 1, 144. But it's the original. So it's just a little simple guy. It's just like a couple... like And it's already kind of silver, so it's kind of... It's only got three sprues, so it's got these and that and the base.
01:05:38
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And some... It's got some shitty stickers that i'm not going to use. So I'm like, oh, i can I can quickly put this together and then I can try to make it look like the new one once some better pictures come out with the yellow and stuff. And it's like, haha, I will make the new... I'm like, maybe that'll help me get excited for the new movie. And...
01:06:00
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Maybe we'll see. And so, yeah, I'm going to put that together because it's like a nice, cool. And plus, I I'm not always a big fan of working with like silvers and stuff like the metallics. I'll probably still prime it and then use my own metallics.
01:06:12
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Like I got this. I got this stuff a couple years ago that I've used on a couple of things and it's awesome. It's called like a mirror. mirror finish it is like super glossy it's it's more metallic than the container it's in like it is it's like it almost looks like mercury it's kind of crazy so I've always wanted to spray it I've always brushed it but I want to spray it so I'm probably going to use that on here and it's probably going to turn out like dog shit but who cares it's a small model and I'm going to paint pun some of it yellow anyway so I think that's really cool yeah because Razor Crest is super shiny
01:06:48
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Yeah. So I'm, and I'm, I'm very excited to build that. And I may, you know what, I may give it, I'm probably going to give it away. Cause as you can tell, I have no room for anything in this office. And so I don't think I'm working on anything else.
01:07:02
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I think that might be it boys. I think I might be on work it. So it's a bunch of star Wars stuff at different scales. Uh, easy thing Easy things like the Battle of Hoth stuff and the man in the bathtub. Oh, I didn't show you this. I didn't show you like a man in the bathtub up close. so like It's not super canon, so I've done like red on some of the eyes. yeah Come on, focus. Focus.
01:07:22
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Did you use gloss varnish over some... He is. He's he's currently matted, but I'm going to use aardcoat and stuff on some of the the bits and bobs yeah to make him... Man in the bathtub. To make him kind of stand out more...
01:07:36
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I was thinking like that lens they have, you know, yeah. Yeah. yeah The little, the little dots like around his head, like the little lenses. And so I painted some of the lenses red just to kind of make them.
01:07:47
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So he's not just this black and metallic looking Viper joy. Just kind of get, make them more menacing. oh Before Chris goes, I want to say, I have one more thing that I forgot I was going to work on next, but you don't, you don't want to interrupt Chris. You know, you want to go before him Yes. Um, but, uh, after he goes, i want to talk about jamming.
01:08:07
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Cause that, that lens you pointed out on the man in a bathtub could use it technically, I guess, but, um, not looking for, not looking for critiques Ed. just kidding. No, no, no. just saying like, like it could be yours. That looks like a piece of shit. john ah You could make that look better. yeah I am really happy with this. and It's really motivating me to get back into it. Well, it's good. Cause it looks like shit and you can do a little more work on it. hands Maybe I'll send that one back through a review cycle and, uh, Maybe try again. Oh, no, no. um
01:08:42
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So Google this. Mutalith. Mutalith. M-U-T-A. Making me fucking. L-I-T-H. Mutalith. Vortex. Beast. Yeah. Product line. Yeah. Here we go.
01:08:54
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This, I have it primed already. It's white. This is the next thing. I taught don't know why forgot about this. Good for you. This goes in the same army as the Magnus, the Primark I painted. So I'm going to like, it's going to be primarily, I think I'm going to try to primarily do it with airbrush only.
01:09:15
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So they're like two meld many colors together. So do you have the one with like a head or do you have the one that's heads turn into tentacles? Tentacles. Tentacles. I got that.
01:09:26
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What is it? Mutal Vortex Beast. Muta, M-U-T-A-L-I-T-H, and then a Vortex Beast.
01:09:37
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Wow, look at that. and so It's a really fucked up looking beast. I like the sprue, how the sprue's kind of like chaotic looking too. Like it's not straight lines. Like it's all over the place. That's kind of cool. I've never seen that before.
01:09:50
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I see. $96? Yeah. yeah I paid $100 for to be. I went on eBay and I'm lazy sometimes, so I paid $100 for one that was already put together and primed.
01:10:07
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ah So is $40K to stand for like an expectation setting for how much you're going to pay to get into this game? Yeah, probably $40,000. But it yeah no but it is a lot.
01:10:21
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I'm pretty much done mostly spending money on it. Yeah, sure. i'm gonna I'll take that bet. i will take I will take that bet. I've done the bulk of the spending already. So i'm now now it's just the little things, new things that come out if I'm interested in them. Until your next UK trip. And I can take you at least five more crafting stores that I've found since you were last year. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's it. You're talking to three people. here's There's three of us. I can see all of our backgrounds. And ah you're saying, oh, I think I've done the bulk of my spending. It's like, yeah, sure.
01:10:54
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Got it. I can see your background. I can see your background. can see my own background. Got it. Sure. Are we enabling? we Is that the kind of the vibe are we going for? Are we enabling each other here? or like is it?
01:11:05
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yeah Yeah, Ed, you don't got a problem. You're fine. No problem at all. don I am comfortable with my spending. Because if you have a problem, then I'd have a problem, and I do not have a problem.
01:11:19
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But yeah, that's sorry. Chris, go ahead. I just want to let you guys know that's going to be my first airbrushing a lot journey. It's going to be in the next week.
01:11:31
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Oh, I look forward to my ah morning as I'm having my morning shit. ah Looking at your progress shots, mate, as you're still awake. All right. Cool. Nice. ah Sean, before I go, I've got a question. that Yeah. It reminded me that you printed that 3D Thrawn.
01:11:49
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This guy. what did you I've got a terrible memory. You've probably already told me this and shown me. The Ninja Turtle that you 3D printed. Oh, yeah yeah. Did you finish him, mate?
01:12:01
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Yeah. Yeah, he's back here. He is, right?
01:12:06
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I'm not going to drop him because I will i will be pissed. Oh, looks so awesome. but How tall he? Like 10 inches? um On the base, he's probably about 12 inches total. yeah And so this is where I learned a lot about 3D printing. And like so the base is the first thing I did. And he is covered...
01:12:26
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in um like he is a a brick of resin like just an absolute brick heavy yeah it's and it's kind of messed up so that's that's kind of the base here so it's kind of this rocky like stones and he's got this old kind of like temple and the demon guy on the front and let's see cool and then this is this is the turtle this is rafael here Whoa.
01:12:56
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Dude, that is rad. and so his little His little mask comes off. We've got to make this visual, haven't we? got to find a way to make this visual. man. That looks cool. So I started out, like kind of, what I did with him was all black, and then I kind of Zenithal highlighted it, like kind of.
01:13:18
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ah But then i did I was trying something new. I kind of ah I took yellow and green and dry brushed. the entire, like the entire, uh, model, like his entire skin and shell and stuff all the way down. And then I airbrushed green, like a darker green on top.
01:13:34
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Um, and then did his shell. His shell is like, so then I kind of did muted color. So like, his was like a red. as I muted it down and like all of this, like, so there's, yeah. Like that vibe you got with him, the muted, like more real red. Yeah.
01:13:49
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It's kind of like a bloody, like a Brown red. Um, yeah, that's how he turned out. I'm pretty happy with him. He looks a lot different in a light too. Like it's kind of cool how, how different it is based on the lighting that it's in.
01:14:04
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So like if I crank up the light, like his colors really pop a lot more. Um, yeah he's kind of cool like i really enjoyed doing like the rag the rags and stuff on his feet i could turn it so could see it yeah like those bandages like those are fun to do how it's just like they start i did them like white almost like a like a tan and i just kept weathering and weathering and weathering and weathering and so me take this i mean ah i stabbed myself oh the back's better there you go let's see It's like down here, you can see how they were tan, but you just keep weathering it so it's actually like dirt and dirt and dirt. and it Yeah, you kept it brighter on the outer sides and upper. That's good. Yeah, so it just kind of continues to... Then it did the flick the toothbrush flick speckle on his skin to make it look like he's actually like organic. did you see how painful it Did you hear how painful it was then for Ed to praise you?
01:14:55
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It's like, well, I guess this one's okay. No, it was good. You get it right around the edges. it's good yeah doesn It doesn't look like complete dog shit.
01:15:08
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It looks awesome. not Yeah, that's right. I'm sad I didn't seek it out and look at it when I was at your place. there's there was ah There's a lot going
Robot Building and Toy Fair Plans
01:15:18
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on in this room, so I don't blame you.
01:15:21
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It was... a in its pasts it's not It's kind of chaotic in here. so no No harm, and no foul. You'll see it next time. That's right. Maybe. i don't know when that'll be, but next time for sure.
01:15:34
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Anyways, yeah. that's what that that's No, rad, dude. I think last time I saw it, it was like you primed it and it was all black. Yeah, I'll have some off to share some photos. I think I posted on something, but yeah, that's that.
01:15:52
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He'll reply to the photos that he already sent. Yeah, to I know he's going to do that. And then I'm going to feel like shit. It's like, go say hey, it's like from December 2024. And there was no response. and i'm like, you know what? Fuck this. I don't want to model anyways. I i gave it a shot. nobody Nobody thinks I'm any good. So I'm just going to whatever. I'm done.
01:16:13
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Brilliant. Oh, well. It's me and then, isn't it? oh Yeah. So I've been there. ah Like Sean, I like a million and one things going off.
01:16:27
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It's just the way my um my brain works. I get hyper fixated on one thing, but I also need multiple other things going on at the same time.
01:16:39
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So obviously I've been, as you guys know, trash building, junk building, scratch building, whatever you want to call it. Building these little robots um that i started doing, don't know, maybe probably about a year and a half ago now.
01:16:56
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And then I built a few um and I was doing them individually and then I kind of built a batch of like five and then painted all those and then they sat for a while.
01:17:10
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And then I'll put those down. I'll put that project down and work on some drawing or work on something else. But this late this latest batch I've just been super into. um And I've built 10 different droids all at once.
01:17:25
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nice Nice. Just out of junk. um because the kind of way that i do it is i've got boxes and boxes of junk and trash and stuff that i save bits of plastic old kits and to get it all out of storage i have to fill this whole room so just to build one droid it's kind of a lot so i just thought i'm just going to build as many as possible um and i built I think I completed 10, but I've also got like five others on the go that I put away. And I was like, that's a bit silly now. I need to concentrate and like my room's a mess.
01:18:03
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So put all the parts away and then started painting them. you have a plan for all these? So yeah, kind of. i'm I'm going to start selling them.
01:18:13
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Oh, nice. And We've got so me and a friend of mine have got, because separate to the droids, I'll get to in a minute, but i've got a I've got a table booked at a toy fair in April and that I'm going to take the droids with, hopefully get them online as well at some point. Nice.
01:18:33
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But yeah, people have shown interest already, like friends and family, but I'd like one, so. but yeah. That's awesome. I i mean mean, you should probably work on the eyes and then the the gla glazing a little bit, but you know, I'm excited for you. thattic again I need to critique it. The ones I've been building like over the past year, they're all pretty similar. look They're kind of like r2 droids in a way like kind of gonk looking r2 that kind of droid like a gonk astromech kind of vibe astromech that's the word i was looking for sean yep um in my head they don't live in the star wars universe but they're quite obviously influenced by that as a lot of things are um but this latest batch
01:19:26
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I've tried to mix up and do different shapes and sizes and all sorts of things. So I've got these these really little ones. These aren't painted, like, finished yet.
01:19:37
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I've got these little tiny ones. Mm-hmm. I've got done a couple of these ones. So I've started weathering. Look at the weathering. Sean.
01:19:50
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I'm big fan. I like it. like it I like it. That gives me boner. They kind of look like Camtono. They kind look like Camtonos, but with droids. So when I first started building them, I built them out of yogurt pots or yogurt pots, whatever. What do you call them over there? yogurt like Like a yogurt tub, container? Tub, yeah.
01:20:09
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and Empty plastic tub. I put two together and then that's my base. And then I just start chucking stuff on from there. um But I've started doing different shapes and things, what I'll get to in a minute.
01:20:22
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and But these, so my daughter's obsessed with dough balls. So we buy these packs of dough balls and they come with a little tub of garlic butter to dip the dough balls in.
01:20:35
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And but that's two of the tubs on top. Oh, that's funny. On top of each of it. And then just like add add different bits on. But I had this like accidental
01:20:50
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ah light bulb go off. So I buy these like at Christmas. They're like clear baubles to put on your tree. You can put things inside them.
01:21:01
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Yeah, like a clear like the clear plastic where you kind of snook them together, yeah. Yeah, well, they fit perfectly. Like one half fits perfectly on top of these. So I built i built all these little bits on top and then put the little dome on.
01:21:18
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Yes, nice. can You can see all the little inner workings inside it, it's like It's like the 80s, 90s clear telephones, and you can see the electronics inside. Like all the little bits and bobs, like the brain.
01:21:32
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Kind of gives them a little different vibe. It fits perfect. So I've got those little dudes going off, and then okay I've got some square dudes. These aren't finished yet.
01:21:44
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that this is um This is a fidget cube. This is just a container that comes in. So they're like three they're like three pounds from the supermarket. So every time we do the food shop, Michelle's like, why why have we got like four fidget cubes inside the...
01:22:00
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just swap the boxes just just need the cases that's all are you are you dumpster diving the uh the neighbor's recycle bins yet like oh yeah my uh my neighbor was throwing a printer out and i saw it on his it got a skip on his drive and he chucked it in and i was like i went and knocked on his door i was like can i can i get this printer this old printer out your thing i was like yeah sure he's like And then I had to tell him why. i was like, oh, I'll make little robots. And if I say if if i take this printer apart, it's gonna have some pretty rad greeblies inside it. so i this reminds me, like I came, ah like the closest I come to thinking of doing this kind of stuff was if I played Legion.
01:22:45
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Yeah. And I wanted to make like a Tatooine terrain, like the buildings and stuff. And I was like, I was like, going in the trash, you can find everything you need for that. yeah But anyway, I think i I sent this video to Chris. I think I may have just sent it to him the other a couple of weeks ago where it's this guy where he will just take like an old piece of discarded, like an old telephone. He's like and he'll make a droid completely out of just like that one thing. It's like a more like a Gundam style, like a like a stand up droid kind of thing.
01:23:21
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but it's like, oh, man, I I want to do that. i need to start collecting junk. And it's like, wait, no. no i don't keep going on the list i've got so much crap and it's like people at work know now as well so anytime someone has like a healthy pot of like whatever they're like do you want this chris yes please and now party often like in the in the trash like picking people's rubbish out when i'm in when i'm in the kitchen and like making a brew and stuff but Yeah. And then I've got a fan. I've done this. Oh, my boy.
01:23:57
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This guy's primed at the minute, but it's ah kind of a different shape. And I thought I'd built some little tracks for him. So he's got like. Yeah. Not to make you go back, but what was the what were the legs on that other one made out of? Like the shiny, the gonk-looking legs.
01:24:13
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Yeah, what are those? I had a guy just give me um a load of like plumbing parts. So it's like tubes that were like used, the plastic tubes that were used for plumbing.
01:24:25
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These little plastic bits and bobs from that. Cool. Yeah, and then that's... That's my favorite paint and it's so Citadel. Is it Leech leech Belcher or something? lee Lead Belcher. Lead Belcher. Yeah. yeah there yeah I love that so much. That's nice.
01:24:42
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But yeah. So that one's just base coat. Yeah. I've got a ton of droids and I'm just having a fun. Lots and lots of fun with that at the minute. And I built this big bad boy as well. He's... He's the biggest one I've built. He's just primed so far.
01:24:56
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um' I'm waiting for you to make one that's like a Russian nesting doll where open it and then there's another droid inside and then you open that and there's another droid inside and there's just like droids all the way down, down to like a teeny tiny little one. That's... That'll be sick. I've done a few this. You're like, this is a giant yogurt container. This is a half yogurt container. This is a...
01:25:20
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I've done a few guys that have got arms as well. And some I've stuck on already and then started painting and been like, ah, should have just stuck these arms on afterwards because it's really hard to get into these bits and bobs.
01:25:35
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So there's a couple of guys where I've just got their arms and I'm painting them separately. That's a big arm. I like it.
01:25:46
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it's ah Is that a red arm? is that Was that red? it was It was not a red arm, Sean. It was just a red wire. I went and fetched this when you were showing your wire stuff because i was like, ah.
01:25:58
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Yeah, so i've been just having lots of fun with that. I'm fucking... I'm really into it, boys. Really, really dig it. so It's relaxing, isn't it? Yeah. so good.
01:26:09
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It's great. um And it's completely different to... It's a completely different discipline to drawing and the illustration stuff that I do, which I love as equally as much, but...
01:26:21
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yeah who knows where itll what it'll lead to and where it'll go but right now um i'm i'm loving it um that's awesome but like like i've said multiple multiple things on the go separate to that i've i got bored one day and started trying a bit of sculpting um so i got some super sculpy clay and if you've ever heard me on any podcast talking about toys, I'm obsessed with like 80s gross out toys, like things like mad balls and stuff. So I made my own mad ball
01:26:58
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whoa kind thing of out of clay. but That looks gross. I love it. Look at that.
01:27:10
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It's like fleshy. Yeah. yeah it's like It's like garbage pail kids meet like a coughing or wheezing Pokemon, but and also flesh colored. Yeah. So that one I've baked and obviously painted. That's cool. And I've some like a little alien dude um currently.
01:27:28
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Is it heavy? should after baking. Not at all. No, that's just like tinfoil wrapped up in a ball and then sculpey light on it. It's really light. Is it brittle?
01:27:39
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Like if you drop it, will it like... Throw it against the wall, will break? it's That's durable. That's good. It's when it's baked, it is, yeah.
01:27:51
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But then I think I'm going to give this guy some like tentacles or legs or something. and now Now you just need to get some plaster. You need to make a mold, or reverse mold. Then you got to silicone injection and then you can have squishy versions.
01:28:05
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Yeah. So yeah, just trying out all these disciplines and having fun with it. I've got these eyeballs that I bought. like One fits in there. and I'm just like adding that's cool one giblets and shit onto it. but I just keep adding bits on and see where it goes.
01:28:23
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That's awesome. Lots of different crafting. and then and then Do you just say you you have them all sitting on a shelf? Is there just like a pile? like it Just off camera? like ill just off camera I see you looking around. It's okay. It must be more... There's stuff everywhere. and this This view that you've got right now is very, very deceiving because it's like the length of the room.
01:28:47
Speaker
But what you can't see... It's like all the stuff over here and over here. There's just, yeah, there's a lot of shit everywhere. But there we go. But I've got some, I'm working with a friend of mine and we've made some some toys, like bootleg toys that we're actually going to package up and take to the toy fair as well.
01:29:07
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So he's like kind of kitbashed two old toys from the 80s together to create like a new character. And then He's made a mold and then made them out of resin.
01:29:25
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Nice. And we're painting them together. And then I'm doing, obviously, all the artwork and the packaging and stuff. So... Yeah, but lots of projects going on.
01:29:36
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And I've got quite awesome joggling quiet quite a few art projects as well. Currently, i was working on some Nightmare on Elm Street stuff so for a book. buts It's just, yeah, just lots of mad shit going on.
01:29:51
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But it's good. I love it. right there much That reminded me of a project that I've also been working on that... Well, it also reminds me of your, your, your, i don't want to call them your gross out stuff. i don't know that That's a term of endearment. No, want to make it sound like it's not, um, that's telling the audience scale modeling tools are this. Okay. So this is not advice just for everybody involved, but if you find yourself in a situation where you need small tools,
01:30:22
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so Scale modeling tools, especially clean ones that have never been used, are way better than most of the stuff that you get from like doctor's offices. So for example, say some say your partner has had a bunch of stuff like removed from their back and they have like these like giant stitched up wounds and you got to remove the stitches.
01:30:44
Speaker
Yeah. Scale modeling tools and tweezers and things like that are so much more effective. Yeah. then the junk has blunt tipped blind, like blind tweezers you get from there. It's like, hold on a second. I, this is ridiculous. Why am I using, this why am I using these like safety scissors? Like I'm a kindergartner. Like I got, trust me, I got stuff that's going to work way better.
01:31:11
Speaker
And so that's funny. I was like wondering where you're going with that. And so I come upstairs and get a fresh, a fresh pair of my fancy, my fancy tweezers with an actual point. And I have those too. Yeah. These that's, that's my promotion for the day is normally I'm pushing AK stuff, but if you go on the internet and buy one of these like 10 packs of like good, what are they called? Well, don't even know who makes them super pointy tweezers, whatever that brand's called Tico tweezers that are actually sharp and they come with hooks and things and curved bits. These are the single best thing that I've used in modeling. Yeah.
01:31:50
Speaker
in a long time and i take it for granted until recently i'm like i know what to do for here and so i'm yeah so that's been my other project has been like greebling somebody's back and removing stitches with scale modeling tools. so So I don't want to hear it from anybody else about all my tools that I keep buying and how I never use this stuff. So yeah, she can be quiet. um Yeah.
01:32:17
Speaker
Don't tell her I said that. I would say the one thing I've used those tweezers for a lot, it's kind of funny. I like the army painter painter metallics.
01:32:28
Speaker
You know the little bottle they come in, squeeze bottle? yeah Yeah. It gets like caked in the in the nozzle. And I just take the tweezer like because it's so pointy. I just shove it right into the end of the the bottle and it opens it right up.
01:32:44
Speaker
It's perfect. You know what? You know what? It took me way too long to realize about with bottles like this. Like the, they kind of look like the traditional craft bottle, like fabric paint bottles you get at. your fabric store. I didn't realize that the tip came off for the longest time.
01:33:00
Speaker
Yeah, they do. yeah Like they're like, Oh, you can buy the balls, like the little metal balls to put in there and shake it up. it' like well, how am I supposed to get it in there? And then I was like messing with one, one day. And I'm like, I just pulled, like I pulled the tip out and i'm like, what the,
01:33:13
Speaker
This mis goes to my Twitter thing because I have to do it. because I'll be sitting there squeezing and nothing's coming. like, what the fuck? And suddenly the entire tip comes off and then a bunch of paint everywhere. So that that so i'll take the tip I'll take the tip off, put a ball in there, use my my vibrating machine and just set that for 10 minutes.
Advanced Painting Techniques
01:33:31
Speaker
we need vibrating machine. you are Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:33:34
Speaker
yeah it's not I don't know where it is. it's oh no, there it is. It's always close by. it's always Yes, it is. You guys told me to get those little ball bearings. Oh, yeah. on and they Lifesavers.
01:33:48
Speaker
So the pro-acryl ones come with glass ones. I think they're glass balls. So like they're not metal and don't affect like the paint, I guess, in the long term.
01:33:59
Speaker
Nice. nice So when I'm Because i forget my memory is terrible. And when I'm painting like 10 different things at the same time.
01:34:10
Speaker
So i'll I just want to run like a process past you guys. Yeah. So I'll make sure I'm um'm actually doing it. Because I get varying different effects. Like some days I'll be like, oh yeah, I nailed that. And then the next day I'll be like, what am I doing wrong?
01:34:27
Speaker
why Why did I fuck that up? So I build a model and then I prime it. So i prime it in black. And then I do what you call a Xenithol highlight, where I spray from above with a white or a bone color from a rattle can.
01:34:45
Speaker
And then I add a base layer. So it's just like this is the main color of what it's going to be. um If it's going to be multiple colors, like i different parts, I'll put base layer colors. like Say it's a blue bit there and a red bit there, whatever.
01:35:03
Speaker
And then this is where I always get like, I get confused. So at that point, should I dry brush or should I do a wash?
01:35:14
Speaker
Wash. I think it depends. Okay. It depends on the effect. To me, it depends on the effect. like So I'm never going to make, I don't want any of them to look clean.
01:35:27
Speaker
They're always going to look like they're fucking knackered and rusty and weathering is obviously the last thing I do. But I always get confused when I dry brush and when I do a wash. so So the way that I do with it is would dry brush before and after, but for different effects.
01:35:48
Speaker
So I will dry brush before a wash a lot of times to get... um enhancing kind of contrast and shading or like doing certain effects, like kind of thinking about it like actual dirt. So like for me, a wash, like I think so with models, sometimes models are like, oh, I do a wash to make it just for contrast.
01:36:11
Speaker
For me, most of my washes are like, I'm trying to add like the base layer of just like absolute grime and it's also for the contrast but i want something underneath that as well so it's whether it's like exposed metal um chips in the paint things like that because i don't want that on top of the grime like i want that under i want that under to be like what's the paint and the body in the machine look like specifically for droids and in ships yeah then i'll put the grime on top my wash on top to really kind of kind of seal it all in well first in between that dry would dry brush it then i would seal it with something then i would wash and then i'm going to come in on top of that for like dry brushing like dust effects or like really shiny metals or or something like that to like there's the dirt and then there's the yeah there's there's different kinds of dry brush so like if you're
01:37:03
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If you're doing like large area dry brush, then you might want to do that before wash. Like the skin. Sometimes skin or something. I don't know.
01:37:16
Speaker
But if you like want to do a super light edge highlighting dry brush, like ah as and that's definitely after you. Right. So if ah when I'm doing chipping, so I'm doing like metal chipping.
01:37:34
Speaker
And normally I just, I've got different techniques for that, but I'll like brush the edges and chip away and do like little bits on the edges of the metal panels.
01:37:45
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I do that before I do a wash, yeah?
01:37:50
Speaker
So the wash would get into the little, makes it look like the... and then yeah Another thing a wash does is it helps blend a little bit. you know but So yeah, i feel that's the effect you want. It's also different washes.
01:38:03
Speaker
You get a feel for all your washes. They kind of like react differently. to And you'll know just by instinct a little bit over time. And I, so if that was me, I would do, I would do on both ends. So I would do a little bit before because, because washes can also get unwieldy of like, Oh, I do. I do a little bit before then I wash and it's like, well, should i just lost everything. So like, I'll do more of it again after the fact. Cause it's, I wish I could say that my process for star Wars stuff and droids and,
01:38:32
Speaker
pretty much everything I build, I wish it was straightforward of like, I don't repeat myself. I do this this this, this, this, and this, and then I'm done. It's like, no, it's usually step one, two, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three, four, three four five, three, four, five, six, seven, nine. Like, I'll just keep like layering until I get to the point that I want. So like, specifically like for like a TIE fighter, like I would do the base coats. I would do the layer of like the black and the panels. And then I would probably dry brush it to add a little bit of texture to the black.
01:39:07
Speaker
And then I would seal the whole thing. Cause like, all right, i'm kind of happy with this. And I want that gloss to kind of help things flow better for the effects. Then I would do a wash over the top of it, mostly erasing most of the visible, visible dry brushing I did, but there's still a little bit of something there. There's still a little bit of something that the light catches. So it's not just that black.
01:39:28
Speaker
that black with more black or other dirty crap on top of it. And then I would drive rush again. So when you do a wash, what kind of paints are you using? Speed paints?
01:39:39
Speaker
I don't, I do not own any speed paints. um Or you're making your own wash. So you're just like, so i I use it all washes. So I will sometimes do my own washes, but I also have a lot of like,
01:39:53
Speaker
my favorite thing to do is the weathering. So like all 90% of my products are either like, it's either basic paints or ah weathering washes and stuff that I paid too much money for for, very specific use cases. Like, so like most of mine are like, oh, it's a, it's a panel line wash for, ah it's a blue black color to go on top of dark colors, or here's my dark streaking grime that I put on there. Then I can wick it down to make it look like things are running and just, or grease or starship, starship streaking.
01:40:28
Speaker
ah there are a lot of enamels, a lot of weird products that behave, in weird ways which is also why i seal before doing it but so i i i use washes kind of like differently there are multiple uses you can do the typical just coat the whole thing and then it gathers in the crevices so i've also taken my smallest brush my like highlighting brush and i've specifically put wash in certain spots like edge of panels in cracks where i don't want wash where i've already worked yeah and i want to keep it popped out the way i had it oh um also multiple coats of a wash
01:41:18
Speaker
can create an effect that you want, like a darker or more of that color. Because like one coat might only just get the crevices, whereas if you do multiple coats, it kind of starts working like a contrast paint, where where you start seeing some of that color on the raised raised surfaces.
01:41:38
Speaker
Sweet.
Airbrushing Skills and Techniques
01:41:39
Speaker
So something else. So this might this isn't directly what you asked. but I think something that you might find interesting, especially for the droids. So something I did with this ridiculously huge TIE bomber, and I also did with my A-10 back there, ah is a technique called, have you heard of mottling? M-O-T-T? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:42:04
Speaker
And so that's something, instead of dry brushing for this that I did, and I'm sure you could kind of see it in like the... in the light when this hits it. So for this, I did it black.
01:42:15
Speaker
The whole thing, the whole tie bomber was in black. Cause I can't take this apart. It's all one, it's all one unified piece. And so then after that I did model, very light modeling in white. So just kind of adds variation. It just takes forever. You're just like very lightly with white, just doing squiggles all over the entire thing.
01:42:35
Speaker
and And then doing your base colors on top. So that way I don't need to do any dry brushing because it's already got like that weird variation in the light just in the blues all throughout. I can hold that closer. So it's like it's very subtle. I mean, you kind of see it there. And so then and that that kind of creates that that airplane airframe sitting out the sun UV damage where like paint and pigment don't decay at the same rate. So you kind of get that.
01:43:04
Speaker
warped, warbled look. And so it's kind of underneath the base color instead of trying to put shit on top of the base color to make it look dirty. It's kind of like a UV damage ah look that i kind of I've really picked up on. I started it with the A10 ah behind me. And I think i actually have a picture. I could send you a picture of what a it' it took freaking forever. But i'm I'm a big fan of that. It's kind of like taking that zenithal to the next step because you're just doing it like the little little with the airbrush like crazy.
01:43:36
Speaker
but So I do zenithal highlight and then ah put my base color on and that just fucking sometimes... like what what's What was the point in that zenithal highlight? as well just it's I think it's additive minutely, but it's generally for like you seeing where shading would be for the future.
01:44:01
Speaker
Well, and also it depends on how thick you put it on. like Sometimes you if you if you put a thick layer it, it's like, well I just covered everything up. Whoops. um yeah So i'm not I'm not watering my paints down there. My brush goes...
01:44:15
Speaker
if it's a Citadel paint, it goes fucking in that pot or ah squirting it in and I'll just go straight in, bang, paint. So obviously I need to, I've learned that I need to start thinning my paints down and,
01:44:28
Speaker
Well, if you have an airbrush, you can zenithal with base colors too. So like like I did with the Magnus, where I did the shadow, the bluish black from below, then did the magenta from above with more of a lower degree. That's a fantastic, fantastic segue there, Edward. It's almost like you knew what I wanted her to talk about next.
01:44:50
Speaker
and So I've been kindly gifted an airbrush.
01:44:57
Speaker
join the club so I can take take my painting to the next level ah boys I ain't got a fucking clue where to start or what to do or anything but neither do nice thing Neither do we. It's just kind of making it up. You figure out as you go, mostly. but Obviously, I've chatted to you guys about it and about basic setup and things.
01:45:21
Speaker
And I've learned that I need to completely and utterly move my office and change everything around. because I've got no access to the window currently. So I ah need to change my ah my whole office around before I can start using it because I need access to the window. But other than that, I don't know where to start, what paints to buy, what i would use the airbrush for.
01:45:46
Speaker
i think there's some good YouTube videos. um Ninjon has a really good one.
01:45:55
Speaker
N-I-N-J-O-N. I like his stuff. then john
01:46:02
Speaker
um He's on YouTube. And I think... He has ah hes a good ah like starter paint ah but airbrush video. Like, this is what you need, and this is what you should have.
01:46:17
Speaker
I mean, there's definitely there's definitely like ways to step into it. I think if you already own... like If you already have an airbrush and you already have a compressor, like... that gets you over like the biggest hurdle, which I think is like the analysis paralysis of like, which one do I get? Which one do I need? And it's like this whole, like they're impossible to tell a apart and some are better than others, but like you've already got one. So it's like all right, i have this.
01:46:41
Speaker
Step one from what I've learned over time is like, I would just take the thing apart, at least like get the, i get the needle out, figure out what the pieces are, because that's the part that's the suckiest is once you've done and it's all, it's a covered in paint. Cause you cleaning it is like the most like,
01:46:58
Speaker
like most critical piece. It's the part that sucks the most. Like in my opinion, I just hate, I hate cleaning it. So I'm not going to like sit there and just like spray one thing and then walk away and well, I'm done now. I'm going to come back tomorrow.
01:47:09
Speaker
It's I'm like, going to do a bunch at one time. Um, And I think outside of that, the paints and stuff, I think you're fine as long as you water, like as long as you're comfortable watering it down, like thinner is better.
01:47:21
Speaker
um And then just practicing with like a certain type of like pick a pick a paint that you have a bunch of fit it down to like. skim milk or whatever. Milk, yeah. Milk consistency.
01:47:34
Speaker
It's like ah like, I always went with the skim specifically, so it's a little bit watery, but it's kind of got some viscosity to it. Then just practice practice with certain, ah with a certain ah but the yeah to me, the airbrush matters, but it's more about like the paint You can spray any kind of paint and it's not about dialing in things exactly of like, oh, I spray at 20 PSI. It's like, cause it's, it's always going to change depending like, cause you're never going to mix the paint the same way and it's gonna be the same thinness and paints are all different. So it's just kind of getting used to.
01:48:06
Speaker
Like even all this just, I find really daunting. Okay, um let me let me simplify it. There's no like, it's not like, ah it's more of an art than a science. Yeah. um Because I think there's a lot of places online that'll say like, oh, you should shoot at 20 PSI for this this thing. It's like, but it's really, it's just kind of getting used to like spraying it and you're like, okay, that's,
01:48:29
Speaker
I'm getting like big splatters. It's like, okay, what does that what does that mean? Or like knowing what resource to go to for that. It's like, oh, my my PSI is too high or it's drying on the needle, so whatever. like And it's it's really kind of simple once you start doing it because you'll notice, you'll see things, but okay, I'm i'm spraying too hard.
01:48:47
Speaker
Like it's drying before it hits. I'm good at that, mate. I'm good at spraying too hard. Yeah. And so it's like, and then just like, it's by the thing that I've always learned is like, it's just, you want it thinner than you think like, Oh, this paint's pretty thin. And then you spray it. It's like, Nope, that I really should have thinned that down like 50 percent, like one to one with, uh, like a daily a bottle of thinner, right.
01:49:12
Speaker
That, uh, cleaner, you'll go through a lot of cleaner if you're changing colors a lot. And like and if you're just using if you're just using ah like acrylic paints, then just like isopropyl alcohol or like Windex or whatever. like it's not like you paid a billion dollars for this airbrush. So it's not like, oh, Windex will eat away the metal after 30 years of using it. It's like, I think you'll be OK. Like you don't need to go out and buy. my cleaner smells like Windex. I'm like, is this just Windex?
01:49:40
Speaker
Usually usually it is. I use Vallejo cleaner. A lot of my airbrush stuff is Vallejo. So it's cleaner, thinner. I still am not sure what air ah flow flow stuff would be used for.
01:49:56
Speaker
Yeah, flow prover. It's a retarder, so it makes it not dry as quickly. Like if you're spraying it high tid. This is shit you don't need to worry about. This is all just products you buy later on. It's like, oh I could use that, but really...
01:50:09
Speaker
You don't really, yeah. You just need paint, acrylic paint, water, or some other like thinner. Water. water so i told you about he'll tell you like some of the accessories like the squeeze bottle water thing with like a nozzle that comes out like you know like the dentist has it um so whatever i don't have i don't have any of that yeah you just square it in part like i have like a little jar that i could just like dump stuff in but then you can i'll get that i got the what you have it right there i think sean yeah but the the thing you can just rest your airbrush on it's in the other room yeah it's like a little jar thing that has a filter on top.
01:50:50
Speaker
It's all shit to waste your money on. It's like, it's something that you just set your airbrush in. It's a hole and it's got a filter in a jar. So you could spray into it. like oh this is convenient. Or you can use like a paper towel and a cup. So you run cleaner through it, but you just do it into that jar.
01:51:04
Speaker
kind of thing My, my most recommended things are these. get like a billion of these little plastic cups off the internet. You can mix it in it and then just pour it.
01:51:15
Speaker
Pour it in your That's a good idea. I have literally a billion of them in here. and then And then these. Yeah, that's what I have. I've got loads of them.
01:51:26
Speaker
Yeah, just... can yes poop I think the cup's better. but but they had I think they have different purposes. So sometimes I'll take this and I'll put it in the cup. If I'm done spraying a color and I'll use it to suck it back out and I'll put it back in somewhere else. Like because these are, these are good for putting things in and out of both places.
01:51:46
Speaker
This is really just good for like mixing and dumping and, Like if you mix a bunch and you can pour a little bit in and spray and see if it's all right, instead of dumping it all in and then it's like, shit, it's too, it's not thin enough. I'll dump it all back out again. Like you can just do like a little bit at a time.
01:52:00
Speaker
so I love these things. I've had a couple instance instances where I spilled like half a pot of contrast paint all over the table. Yeah. And I just use a pipette and suck it all back up, put it back in the pot.
01:52:12
Speaker
So if that ever happens, get, keep those pipettes handy.
01:52:18
Speaker
yeah Because i know I know Ed and I have different approaches towards our airbrushing and like what we use it for. like i'm I'm very much a a lacquer enamel Tamiya, stuff like that.
01:52:31
Speaker
I know Ed's very much a wargaming acrylic. But at the end of the day, it all boils down to the same stuff of like... get some paint, thin the shit out of it, hook up to your compressor. Cause that's the fin most finicky part is the stupid compressor. It's like, Oh, do you have a compressor that's got an extra tank and it can be consistent? Or do you have like one that I saw that you have that we've all started with where it's, it'll, it'll start strong. And then it it has like a cliff. It'll like, ba it tries to keep up with your spraying. So it's like getting you like spray and then now go on. And like, as it kind of goes back down, it's,
01:53:05
Speaker
yeah it's like it's little stuff It's little stuff like that. that i ended up getting the two tank one. I forgot about that. i had I had the two tank one as well. it's like okay and because i'm also I don't like it going bad like all the time because it'll vary the pressure. but That's stuff you've learned and figured out. like There's stuff that I've picked up that annoys me about my airbrush that I've adapted for. and there's stuff like i think It sounds like Ed is somebody who will put paint in and then just like wash wash it, spray it, put another paint in where I'm more, I'm more planning a meticulous room. Like, all right, I'm going to spray this color and then I'm going to like clean the airbrush and maybe use a different airbrush. Like if I'm trying to be, if I'm trying to do like a bunch of stuff at once, I'll just use different airbrushes because I don't want to,
01:53:55
Speaker
My paints are maybe a little bit harder to clean out so as quickly, but I like the way mine spray better. it's just little finicky things that you you pick up over time. I would say doing the Primark Magnus, I got, a i I could feel it. I was getting more comfortable cleaning, switching colors well enough where it wasn't, you know, you're not seeing the previous color in a spray. So it's like, and it it didn't feel like tedious towards the end of it. i was like,
01:54:24
Speaker
Ooh, maybe I can like, I won't feel like I'll feel more motivated to get this thing out and like spray more. Like it's just got to use it over and over and over. And then then what's used to it and like even if you just use it for little stuff, like I don't use it for everything. I only use it for like priming, like base layering and some like basic weathering. Usually like on that TIE bomber, like I went around the edges with a light, like a very, very thin down black, to just go around the edges just to give it like,
01:54:54
Speaker
shadows around some of the panels like that's it and then i rest i did all with with brushes uh or seal and like i'll seal it with them too um it's like i just try to start little see if you like it i hated it the first couple times i did i'm like this is stupid it's a lot of work but then once i figured out what i was good at with it it i love i love it now and it's like i need more airbrushes i need to get and Yeah, I bought some neon paints that I want to run through it.
01:55:22
Speaker
I'm excited for that. Obviously going to go on the Mutalith Vortex Beast. So we'll see how that goes.
01:55:31
Speaker
ah Fucking love it, Ed. I love it. yes Yeah, I'm excited. It's it's it's a ways away because obviously I've got to sort out my ah workshop first, get things in order. I mean, till the summer or something or yeah when it's warmer out.
01:55:48
Speaker
It'll be on the yeah the next batch of robots, I imagine. Not this batch. So it's interesting you said do you want to like rework your office like as somebody who's done this multiple times.
01:56:00
Speaker
Like, yes, I've I've given up on trying to have it be a permanent spot in my room just because it is so like, all right, I got to run this out the window and I don't want to just sit in here all the time.
01:56:11
Speaker
So I've kind of leaned the other way of like, I'm just going to go put it. i'm going to set it up when I need it and just batch them all out just because it is so, i think it's made me better personally for my own experience of like planning out of like, all right, today is going to be spring airbrushing day for these these things. And come up with a better plan so I could just go do it and then put it up and be like, I don't need this being shitting up my area anymore. Cause it does like, even if you have a ventilation, you've got a mask and stuff like that. Smell still lingers and stuff like that. So yeah, I don't, I don't keep mine dedicatedly i set up.
01:56:48
Speaker
if i ah If I have an excuse, though, to move my office around, I'm going use it. That's I'm using this as an excuse. Because we built, this is we convert this was the old garage.
01:57:02
Speaker
um Garage. Garage, as it's properly said. We converted it during COVID. So what's that? Five, coming up on six years ago.
01:57:15
Speaker
I bet I've had it.
01:57:18
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four or five different configurations of wherever it is in here. You know what mean? You just got to, the more toys you buy, the more room I have to, more shelf space I have to find.
01:57:31
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You just need to make more shelves. That's the key. That's it. I'm buying Legos. I'm like, I'd rather have miniatures, even though I do love Legos, but it's just like, where do you put them? Dude, honestly, that's been the biggest shift in my collecting. like i'll be like Modeling has slowed me down because I'm like, oh, I don't get the same satisfaction. I still love toys. I clearly have a shit ton of them.
01:57:56
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I don't enjoy the Action Fleet Gloob or micro Galaxy Squadron stuff as much because it doesn't have the detail. You know what it does? Bandai, but I have to build it. So I can get it and stack them up and be like, well, if I want it, I got to build it.
01:58:11
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So... slowing me down and they're cheap it's stupid how cheap they are sometimes it's like i can buy a model kit that entertains me for two and a half years um or i can for the same price as a a micro galaxy squadron thing so oh sweet yep
01:58:38
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i'm excited for you chris I'm excited, but I'm also daunted. Which is normal. That's normal. But I got a, like everything, the first time I built a built a trash bot, whatever you want to call them, and started painting it, you've got trust the process. Just dive in and go for it. i'm going to call And you learn and you from it if it's a mistake.
01:59:05
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so yeah I'm going to call them junk droids. Junk. like Junk gonk and junk. Like a junk droid. Junk droids. Because I've got a brand it, mate, so I need a name, innit?
01:59:18
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Junk. That's good. Droids. Yeah. Cool. So that's that's a fucking that's another brilliant segue. Do you want to play a little game with me?
01:59:30
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Let's do it. Right. So the reason I got into building these droids in the first place is um aye started watching a guy on YouTube called Bill making stuff and he's a trash builder crafter builds all sorts of stuff started out just building droids and things like that but he's made his own like universe where everything lives so everything goes now is for that universe but every year he does something called the big bot bash
02:00:05
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and he invites all his YouTube friends um to the Big Bot Bash and there's rules to it which I'll get to in a minute and eat everyone that's invited makes a video and at the end of the month in March every year there's like 20 odd videos to watch on a big playlist of all different YouTube creators o building, building these droids.
02:00:32
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But this year is opened it up to everyone and is put out, put out the prompt list, which I'm about to send you guys. All right. Um, Oh, very cool.
02:00:43
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I just thought it'd be a little fun little thing. Even if you don't want to participate, basically, oh my God. Okay, I can read it now. yeah You need a D20, which I've got right here.
02:01:00
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And you roll for every segment. So you roll for head, and then you roll for arms, you roll for body, roll for legs, and then you roll for flavor, which is kind of so cool the vibe of it.
02:01:18
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So I just thought it'd be funny if we if we all rolled and then wrote down the attributes that we've got. what is it? So what do we got? We got head.
02:01:29
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Head. Arms. Arms. Body. buddy leg Legs. And fan flavor. So I'm going to do it. I'm going build one yeahp um next month.
02:01:46
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But I just thought it'd be fun if you guys rolled and see what kind
Big Bot Bash Challenge Plans
02:01:50
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of... I need that i need that accountability. a Hell, I'm doing it now too. i I'm committing. Sweet. Let's do it. um So for he for each each of those attributes, there's there's 20 things like listed out.
02:02:05
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So I'll roll first for head.
02:02:11
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And that is a nine. So head is hot. Hot. Hot head. Who's going to roll next for head?
02:02:23
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I can. yeah I got a 19, which is pointy. Pointy. Pointy. Sorry, I followed the arrow. My bad.
02:02:34
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oh I want to swap. Pointy. All right. I am rolling for head. and me roll. i have a six.
02:02:46
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so i have cyclops ah That's cool. Well, was going to write down your guys' too. So, okay, you got... Ed got pointy. I got hot. Hot.
02:02:58
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Like, is that, like, attractive or, like, on fire? Or is it up to whatever you want? Well, I pictured fire, but... It says, now interpret when you get to the end, now interpret these attributes however you like.
02:03:11
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Got it. Cool. So whatever it means to you. i'm rolling for I'm rolling for arms. 18. Piston. Ooh. I like that. 11. Short.
02:03:26
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Okay. Yeah. short
02:03:34
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hey I have 16. Club. Nice.
02:03:47
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I'll roll for body. Two. Worm. Oh, worm body. That'll be interesting. piston worm.
02:03:57
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Right, okay. This is going to be an interesting draw. Okay.
02:04:04
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13. Holy. Holy.
02:04:10
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Holy and yours was worm I keep forgetting to write them down. I'm just watching that. There you Roll. And a nine. Camouflaged. Oh, that's good. I like doing that.
02:04:24
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That's what another thing gouaches are good for. like a or Doing the spot the spots of a camo. yeah because Because you can still get what's underneath. anyway You know else is really good for that?
02:04:37
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Any kind of sticky tack? Like a silly putty? so silly putty like the gooey, gooey, like a kneaded eraser. You can like use that, I can make a worm out of that, spray around it. It can make your lines not super crisp, but it gives you like the, it's like better than tape.
02:04:53
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But anyways, go ahead.
02:04:56
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Oh, is it me? No, it's Chris. on the Roll for legs. Legs, that's right. 12 stumps.
02:05:09
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This is going to be weird. Weird looking droid. Stumps with wormy but us that could look I don't know why I'm thinking of um That worm in solo, but anyway, what's her name?
02:05:22
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Madame Proxima Proxima. Yeah, I was thinking earthworm Jim, but yeah I got a 19 rocket rocket legs They fly now tackle they fought they fly now they fine now i got a six. So I have triple jointed. cool.
02:05:45
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That's cool.
02:05:48
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Right. And I will roll for flavor. So the flavor of the joy, so the vibe is two minor. okay With an e not an O. Hot-headed minor.
02:06:04
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Hot-headed, piston-armed, worm-body, stumpy-legged minor. Dude, that could be sick. i um I'm very jealous of yours. I have immediate ideas for yours. That sounds awesome. 18. A killer!
02:06:17
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Dude!
02:06:21
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du
02:06:25
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All right. Mine is, I have a three. so i have a thief. he these I don't really take Cyclops as thieves, but you know, we can do, sneak them human work we can work with that.
02:06:40
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We can work with that. Yeah. So put ah put a cloak on them. Interpret these attributes however you like. And it's a trash building, scratch building, kit bashing, sculpting, illustration challenge, no 3D prints.
02:06:55
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Oh, no 3D. So what's when's our when's our end date? When when does it need to be done? i think it's the end around the last week of March. So about a month's time. Okay.
02:07:13
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Okay. And there's droids. Big Bias bot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pointy-headed, short arms, holy body. like everything except the holy. It's throwing me off.
02:07:25
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if It could be like holy as in religious. So you could you could you could be wearing like some kind of like... Could be. Except there's an e holy. but yeah. Interpret it how you like.
02:07:37
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True. It could be the alternative spelling. mean could out it just You could build whatever body you wanted, but it's got bullet holes in him and poof. Bullittles, that's holy. and it could be like You could interpret it as like the legs, like if they're mechanical, there could be gaps like in gears and and like do like metal legs. You have like feme femur and tibia. There's like gaps in between them. like There's no flesh.
02:08:05
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like It's not weird, random Swiss cheese. just like it's actually he doesn't need anything there. he has his gaps Gaps between the moving parts, like the panels are removed. That would be sick.
02:08:17
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Nice. So yeah, join in if you want. Have fun. ah But yeah, it's going to be rad. All right. all of my All of my other projects are pushed to the side and now I'm working on this. This happens every time. Sorry, guys. Sorry.
02:08:35
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No, I like this. This is cool. Until next week when another project comes up. Everything's pushed to the side. so what's even i'm done There's accountability now, so I have to do it. Jackson saw that I had got some D20s and he was like, oh, what have you got these for? Because he's watched the previous year's not big Bop Bash videos.
02:08:55
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It's really cool, actually, how different YouTubers with the different styles like interpret the different droids that they build. But and he got really excited and he was oh, I told him what it was for.
02:09:07
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And he rolled a couple. So I did a few of Jackson, and then he drew his, and he's drawn like little bots that match his attributes.
02:09:20
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was like, got to do two, mate, and then they can have a fight and battle. He was well into it. Yeah. Roll the dice for whether you win or not. Or if you hit, do damage.
02:09:32
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and and he saw ah so When I saw I've got these D20s, the first thing he said was, like, Dad, I'm not going to start playing Dungeons & Dragons, are
02:09:44
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I was like, what if I did? He was like, you've already got enough hobbies. um you're grounded you're grounded does is he interested in it at all uh in probably not don't just drag him i don't think so no yeah he's probably just thinking dad you just you've got to get over stranger things mate it's finished it's yeah so it's done yeah cool cool has um has anyone got anything else they want to
02:10:17
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We can talk about jamming next time because we're running low on time for me anyway. Yeah, cool. I'm out. I'm out. You're sketching my droid. My bot idea. I love it. I love how into you got got into that. which Damn. I wish I didn't have a camo body. That's the only thing that's messing with me. But I guess. Yeah. Yeah. At least it's not a worm.
02:10:44
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A worm body. Yeah.
02:10:48
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what if What if it's multiple worms? Hot, hot head. How am I going to interpret that? Give him a chiseled jawline, just like a worm, but he's got like a jaw, like a sculpted jaw. like I would just do a giant flame around his head.
02:11:06
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Piston arms, that's going to be hard. ah Why did I do this? Anyway. It's done. It's done. Sweet.
02:11:19
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I'm a fan. i'm digging it. I'm working on it. Well, it's nice to catch up after a year off a yeah a year and some change. Let's not leave it as long.
02:11:31
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I look forward to sharing my bot, my bot design in March of the celebration with us. How about that? Oh yeah. That's going to be fun.
02:11:45
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Um, yeah, that was a good one. um
02:11:51
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I don't know how to outro this. Thank you for listening. if you if you If you have stuff that you're working on or that you've completed or that you're doing, or if you have questions or comments, feel free to reach out to either one of our two podcasts and we can route it because we still haven't kind of kicked this thing up into its own individual right podcast. So just send them to either one and we'll and we can, we know how to get an Instagram for this just to like post what we're talking about.
02:12:20
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This like actually I think warrants it versus like scruffies and... It's we have we have one, about but we just don't post anything. It's like, God, i just I've done so well at kicking Instagram. It's oh man, that's... But we'll figure something out.
02:12:37
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We'll draw you back in. Oh my God, life is so good without it right now, but we'll figure it out. We'll get something. We'll make Ed manage it. Sure. Because I got i gotta to practice my jamming, my glazing.
02:12:52
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Yep. Yes. Yes. yeah It's so impressive looking. I've got to learn how to airbrush. it
02:13:01
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Yep. And I've got 10 droids to finish and another one to build now. sir we Airbrush will speed things up once you get a hang of it.
02:13:11
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All right, well, thanks for listening. um Catch you in another year when we come back for another episode. Just kidding. It's going to be a lot sooner than that, hopefully. ah But yeah, thanks for listening.
02:13:25
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Awesome. Cheers, guys. See ya. Cheers. later