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#21 | Yankees Fall 0-2
31 Plays1 year ago
Andrew drove through a nightmare of a Southern California, Liam was ganged up on in a game of Mario Party, the Yankees will be going home 0-2, and Ohtani got hurt.
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Yankees' Postseason Run Begins
00:00:11
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Two Front War. My weekly podcast that covers the Yankees post-season run. I'm Andrew and with me as always is Liam. Hi Liam.
00:00:24
Speaker
Liam? You're muted. I'm muted. Oh man. Alright so we're here. I was in the middle of traveling before I could actually come in before I could watch game one of the World Series, I drove through Southern California. I got there. You didn't have it on the radio? No. I was listening to audio books. And also because like it that neither neither of my teams or neither of these teams are are really my team. And I don't you really have to know the people I feel like to understand what's going on when you listen to the radio.
00:01:09
Speaker
And also I was driving through Southern California, which like going down the five, I don't think I'd be able to pay much attention.
Southern California Traffic Tales
00:01:21
Speaker
How bad was the traffic out there? Cause they had every sport under the sun. Yes. Uh, I 10 E whatever. Sorry. And I keep getting my East and West mixed up. I 10 West, the one that I was on fine. I was going 65 the whole time, which is a speed limit. I 10 East.
00:01:40
Speaker
it It was bad. I think I passed like about a 30 mile long traffic jam. It it extended from from I-10 around Cabazon who to where it meets up with the 210. I don't know if you can visualize, if you know what I'm talking about at all, but it was ah it was a pretty big distance. I just looked over and I was like, oh my God, I'm so glad I'm not on that side.
00:02:10
Speaker
and I hope that, uh, I hope that it doesn't, uh, open up to experience that on my way back from my trip.
Gaming Frustrations: Mario Party Mishaps
00:02:21
Speaker
Uh, how did your, uh, who won your Mario Party game? Liam was playing Mario Party before. Everyone, everyone ganged up on me and I, I escaped with only one star and one coin. Oh man. Why did they get up on you? Were you dominated?
00:02:38
Speaker
because I'm the only man. Oh no. This is reverse sexism at play. it's I believe the term is misandry. down with him it Down with the Down with Liam, I'm in a very hot basement, sitting in a child's gaming chair. So let's get this this started, huh?
Yankees' Game Two Setbacks: A Pitching Dilemma
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Speaker
We are here after the the end of game two. um Yankees are down 0-2 after a just one misplaced pitch in game one and a little bit of a Disastrous road on start in game two. Let me have issues in game two. Yes Let's start with game one though. um I did not watch that at all. So You have the floor I yield my time as a congressperson might say The vibes between game one and game two were off you could feel it just at the start of each game one deceptively
00:03:53
Speaker
quite a good game people you'll look at the final score you'll say six to three whatever yeah you got to watch the game to understand what actually went on it was very closely contested but even then yeah but even then the Yankees walk off though yeah in my opinion we're running away with it before then yeah they had the Dodgers number in every corner for the most part it's just that Uh, the 11th hour, everything kind of fell apart and some stupid decisions were made. I agreed with Boone's pitching decisions up until that semester. Okay. So you agree with pulling coal out? Even pulling out coal. Yeah. I thought that was really good. I liked the match-ups with the homes followed by the matchup. The Kainley were. Hmm.
00:04:48
Speaker
I believe that was the order. I think it went Cole Holmes, came Lee Weaver cousins. Okay. And then, uh,
00:05:01
Speaker
then you said the only thing you disagree with is, uh, bringing Nestor in Nestor. And, and they, they had, they were going about pitching everyone past the
00:05:14
Speaker
kind of pass the eighth inning, but definitely in the 10th inning just wrong. Everything was wrong. The only ironically, the only good scenario they had was their match against their Tawny in the 10th. I like that. It was a nice quick, it was a kind of a quick pitch. They put them, they were pitching to contact really. They were hoping for something close and like a, like a fly to keep everyone in place. But even then they had bets going up and they decided to walk them. And you can, you can think however you want about that now in retrospect, it was Freeman at the moment of was kind of the better matchup.
00:05:53
Speaker
He's been, he's been struggling and you know, lefty on lefty. Well, I, well, I figured the idea of, of walking Mookie wasn't, it wasn't because it was Mookie and cause like you got Freddie who's Freddie.
Betts vs. Freeman: Was Walking Mookie a Mistake?
00:06:09
Speaker
Um, I thought it was because you by loading the bases, you now have a force out everywhere. And so like, just as long as you get, if he hits a ground or.
00:06:21
Speaker
you know, it's feels there's choice. And if the first base is not in a first base is not open, right, then you potentially have, you know, Mookie get a get a base hit. And then now the bases are still loaded. And now you have a shaken up pitcher, maybe.
00:06:41
Speaker
Sure. Uh, you have to, you have to really know though, where the ball is going. And that's something you can't count on with Mookie. He's not any particular kind of like, Oh, he's a, he's a ground ball guy. He's a pop fly guy. He can send balls into the fucking wall. We're into the crowd. He can do whatever he's an all around guy. Freddie on, on the other hand, uh,
00:07:11
Speaker
You kind of know what you're going to get. You kind of know exactly what side of the field you're going to get him on. He's majority. I think if you look at his career spread, you'll see a very heavy heavy favor for the right side of the field. And if it's not over the wall, it's usually somewhere in the infield. But I mean, I understand that too. You also, I go with Freddy over Mookie at the time because he was struck. He's been struggling.
00:07:42
Speaker
That struggle is over now. Yeah, he's hurt. That that was there was another narrative going in. The two hurt first baseman with like already storied careers behind them in their second homes, Freeman and Rizzo. Rizzo is far worse for wear than Freddie Freeman. But we won't get into that. His fractured fingers he's still playing on. Yeah, it turns out ah you don't have to have to run whenever you get a homer.
00:08:14
Speaker
Nestor served up an absolute meatball across the middle of the zone. There was no movement on that pitch. I was at my last charging spot and I had to charge it a little bit more than I needed to. So I was like, okay, I'll turn on the game, see what's going on, right?
00:08:35
Speaker
And, uh, I do that and, uh, I get on YouTube TV on my phone. I'm like, Oh, they walked to Mookie. Okay. Here's Freddy. First pitch. I was like, okay. That was a laser. That was a laser. That was a 93 mile an hour laser pointer. Yeah. That was, that was, uh, any professionals going to hit that. Yeah. That was, uh,
00:08:57
Speaker
So I was like, okay, that sucks. If you're not going to throw a ball, something out of the zone on your first pitch, it has to be something with movement in the night, on the 10th inning of a playoff game. Come the faces loaded. Come the fuck on. Okay. So you're not too happy about that. I don't think Nestor should have been putting the game at all. Okay. Who, who, who, who would be your choice? Be? Would it be someone else or would it be keep the previous dude?
00:09:27
Speaker
Everyone was talking about bringing in Tim Hill. I like that. I like that move. I saw him pitch today. He has a very, what feels like a very old timey wind up.
00:09:40
Speaker
Nestor though, just, it would be a nice like narrative thing or whatever. Yeah, it would have. but but like Like legacy builder, but this isn't the spot to do it in.
00:09:51
Speaker
Yeah, and it's like rough because he hasn't pitched since what like a just before the end of the season, the regular season. So that that's definitely was definitely was. real And he he's he's more of like ah a middle reliever, but like a long relief build. So I don't understand. I maybe like the thought process was like.
00:10:12
Speaker
He's not a guy that you go for for quickouts, especially in a high leverage position like this. Maybe like the mindset was kind of like, hey, I don't want to like burn the the more consistent guys I want to be having in this bullpen. So throughout throughout Nester, maybe I don't fucking burn them, dude. Yeah, shit. du I mean, you're going to have a bullpen game anyway. Later on, you've shaken Nester's confidence now. So when you have to throw in a long relief guy,
00:10:42
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you know yeah Yeah. So the Yankees can only afford to really kind of lose that bullpen game? I don't. You think so? I don't have. I don't think so. I don't have. When they get to their bullpen game, i don't um'm but I'm not feeling fucking good about it. yeah i'm not What do I have to look forward to? What do what I have to look forward to?
00:11:05
Speaker
And I guess that kind of brings us to game 2 today. Yankees lose 2-4. Rodan started. So I can find out how um I also forgot my mouse. I'm very bummed out. So now I'm going to be recording and editing on a trackpad. So in drew so that's that's three L's for me. Go to CVS in the morning or something, dude.
00:11:33
Speaker
is going. Walgreens. Rodon with 3.1 innings, 6 hits, 4 runs, and 3 strikeouts.
Yankees Bullpen Struggles Despite Efforts
00:11:41
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ah Gave up 3 home runs. yeah ah
00:11:48
Speaker
He had a bad night, which you don't want, but you don't have enough. You don't have time anymore to be upset about that stuff. Absolutely not. So you if if he's bad and you're telling, you know, you just you see it, I get better. You're just going to kind of somebody, hey, get the fuck off. Yeah. And the whatever. I mean, the the the the only what sucks the most about this is that the Yankees bullpen put in the work.
00:12:17
Speaker
He, you know, so I get, you know, Rodon goes 3.1 innings for the the rest of the game. The the Yankees bullpen only gave up two two hits for the rest of the game. And in one walk. ah Yeah, one walk and Dodgers did not score from the fourth until the the end. So from the fourth through the eighth.
00:12:42
Speaker
so Which go which and now the diagnosis, since the Dodgers team has now seen the full Yankees lineup twice, it's it's going to be a lineup problem now. And yeah I heard everyone talking post game, like, you know, maybe a trip back home is going to get some guys going, but it's the 11th hour. So I say, you got to make moves.
00:13:09
Speaker
You got to make some noise, like, yeah, real fast. My first move is moving Judge down to five. OK, yeah. Talking about speaking about Judge is what a. He needs to figure this out. This is this is unacceptable. Oh, for four, three strikeouts. Yeah.
00:13:34
Speaker
I saw someone on the Giants discourse saying that he's he somehow has worse postseason numbers than Barry Bonds. And I believe Barry Bonds was under the if you just take his postseason stats, Barry Bonds was like a like under the Mendoza line hitter. So. So I want Judge batting fifth a set.
00:14:03
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, and then I ideally, ideally next game, but, uh, I see, ah I seen Boone maybe making it, uh, a game for decision, but it, I, I, I'm thinking, I'm thinking lesser of him. If that decision doesn't happen at all. All right. I was kind of saying, I think.
00:14:29
Speaker
Yeah, like i I was saying that he should have been moved down back in the the division series.
00:14:37
Speaker
he he was He was figuring his stuff out. but Yeah, he was still figuring it out. Again, i was i was I was saying this. He was deceptively. Good, because he was working. He's getting some walks. and he was He was getting walks. He was he was taking smart at bats. but He's seen the two best Dodgers pitchers now, and he's looked fucking awful. is like He looks lost at the plate. He's just like trying to make something happen. He's letting nothing come to him. So you can make this decision. you you can Yeah, he can make those decisions in the five hole next game, to as far as I'm concerned. OK.
00:15:14
Speaker
ah Up until, I don't even know what inning, but for a majority of the game, Soto was the only one with the hit.
00:15:27
Speaker
guy fuck they find the money for this guy he he if he counts for who the floor hits that they got today and on the on the inky side it was just kind of sodo gets or yeah so it gets the run in the third inning and then
00:15:54
Speaker
you're you're just kind of like watching it. You're like, OK, the game's tied. The game's tied. And the Dodgers immediately respond with three runs. And then it's quiet for the whole rest of the game. There's really nothing to talk about until you get to the you get to the ninth. we Yeah, I think things restart and things restart and you get together. But yeah, big you know the bases get loaded. And then it's like, oh, shoot, it's the bottom of the lineup. How is it true? I don't know.
00:16:25
Speaker
yeah Jose pitch hitter final that better the game. I don't know how you swing at that first pitch. I don't know how you do that.
00:16:39
Speaker
just nervesy I don't know why you do that. No, I don't know why why you swing in your first pitch in that scenario because the pitcher is shaken. He's coming in a high leverage position. He's, he's got nerves. Definitely. You don't want to lure him into like a false sense of security, you know, see a couple, what he's got. You already got the, the report on the iPad or whatever, whatever scouting yaks have done.
00:17:09
Speaker
I don't know why you don't ah wait on a couple of things, you know, see where he's at. Swung first pitch and yeah only bad things can really happen. So I, I'm
Otani's Injury: Hopes for Recovery
00:17:25
Speaker
deflated. I'm deflated, dude. I'm a popped balloon right now.
00:17:34
Speaker
Yes. Uh, I guess ah the only big thing to talk about now is Otani getting hurt. Yeah. In a bot slide. I think he's going to be fine. Yeah, so this is from Alden Gonzalez on Twitter. He says, Shohei Otani suffered a subluxation of his left shoulder, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said. He'll undergo further testing tomorrow, but his strength and range of motion are good. We're encouraged, Roberts added.
00:18:09
Speaker
Yeah, he's gonna be he's if what he's saying is true that his strength and range of motion is fine. He's playing. No matter what. That won't be a Dodgers. A mutual Dodgers and Italian decision. He doesn't want to sit for shit. Oh, absolutely. It was it was it was kind of it was very interesting. I think that if it yeah the the The entire series is then covered colored by Otani being hurt the rest of the way, if it was actually, I think, serious. But I don't think it's gonna, I don't think that's serious. Yeah, I think if Roberts was, yeah, I think Roberts was like gonna try and make Otani sit out like the rest of the series, that Otani would pull an Aaron Rodgers. What does that mean?
00:19:01
Speaker
ah Get Dave Roberts fired fire. They should. They should. I mean, they should fire Dave Roberts. I don't know how he's been manager for this one and how overview comes out of this cost them in the playoffs. What? Do you think that you think it comes out of this world series? No, no, I think his job is more than safe.
00:19:28
Speaker
OK. If they were going to fire him, they they would have done it a long time ago. But I think he's he has a very safe safe job.
00:19:38
Speaker
we We shall see. it's it's
00:19:43
Speaker
It's do or die for the, the Yankees right now. Um, they, they lost the chance to win the, the series at home. And now they've might've given themselves to winning the series at all. So, um, they're, if they don't figure this out, who starts tomorrow, it's going to be, uh, it's Schmidt. Yeah. Monday's the next one. Who's your starter? Schmidt.
00:20:13
Speaker
Schmidt. Yeah, he was the best pitcher in the league for a hot minute before he got hurt. And then he came back later in the season. But we'll
Yankees' Lineup Woes Against Dodgers
00:20:22
Speaker
see. You know, I've been talking about it this whole postseason for the Yankees starting the division that they need to that that risk is going to kill them. That not, you know, not being able to to bring runners in. And I think we're seeing that in a
00:20:46
Speaker
This is like, it's really making itself known. Well, sure. But, uh, you look at what a lot of people are doing here, taking some of the bets for the most part, or at least having productive outs. Um, it's ironically now like.
00:21:11
Speaker
the judges of the lineup. And I think the the other thing is Wells in this game too. He's kind of been a nothing presence for the most part. It is their it isn't their problem. it is It is their big problem. and And they look like a different team playing against the Dodgers compared to that of the Guardians. I think that says a lot more about them. These are two These were two teams that were compared a lot to each other and how yeah they'll grind you down. I think it's just the Dodgers have that extra bit of legitimacy in their lineup that allows them to not have to worry about having productive outs or smart at bats and just getting hits that in turn, you know, cost them a lot more money, but
00:22:07
Speaker
Yeah. It's interesting to see how they compare and how the Dodgers at the moment, maybe this changes. I don't know. Maybe the Yankees bring it back, but the Dodgers just being a better version of the Yankees in almost every way as of now. Yeah. I hope it's not a sweep. I don't think it will be, but. What's up. I don't think it will be, but I've seen, I won't i won't be surprised if it if it was.
00:22:41
Speaker
So we'll be back on Monday and Yes is gonna be the next um so as the They'll be back in New York. Hopefully that hopefully that does get them to kind of figure it out. But um it's it's looking rough. I mean, your prediction is still alive that Yankees win in seven. Mm hmm. It's just that they have to win.
00:23:17
Speaker
They can only afford one more loss. Yeah. And if even if the the daughters takes us to 3-0, it's... I think it's as good as is done. Fox had a graphic that teams that are initially go up 2-0 have not won the World Series. I think that's what I saw. I don't know how true that is. Yeah. Okay. Well, I hope that's 100% true. The 2-0 curse and then...
00:23:49
Speaker
but yeah and I don't know. I also think I read it wrong. so who does maybe it was a dodgers maybe it maybe it was't Maybe it was a Dodgers exclusive stat that Dodgers have lost every time that they've gone up 2-0 in a you World Series. That seems like something true.
00:24:11
Speaker
OK, so is there anything else but this this game or the previous one that you want to say that we may have missed?
00:24:20
Speaker
Just Chism is finally doing more than just the veteran one. He's good. He's he's good again.
00:24:34
Speaker
he's more of a, he's more of like the August, September player.
Chism's Season Turnaround
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah, like a early September player that we saw from, you know, the the tradiness of it all started to to wear off and he started to really settle in, as opposed to the nothing burger of the playoffs that he has been that he had. So that's cool. That's the only thing I think the the they just got lucky. Comment, I feel like continues to haunt him.
00:25:13
Speaker
No, no, no, because I mean, look at it. The Guardians just got lucky with their one game. They look thoroughly outclassed in retrospect. Oh, yeah, for sure. All right. So, uh, that'll do it. We'll see you back on... Well, see you Monday, Liam, and we'll see everyone on Tuesday to talk about it. Yay. All right. Well, goodbye, everyone. Bye, everybody. Let's give you a kiss!