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"Mind Over Murder" - Season 1, Episode 4 (The Family Guys Podcast)
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Join Tougie and Cyn as they discuss "Mind Over Murder" The episode features Peter after he is placed under house arrest, and decides to open his own bar in the family's basement. The bar immediately becomes a success among Peter's male friends when his wife, Lois, begins to sing and dance in front of them while wearing revealing clothing. Meanwhile, Stewie attempts to create a time travel device in order to escape the pain of teething.
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Introduction and Personal Updates
00:00:16
Speaker
Hello, everybody, and welcome to another edition of a lovely little show that we like to call the Family Guys. My name is Toogie, joined by the one and only Sim4TheWin and Sim before we get into our discussions today of season one, episode four of Family Guy. Mind over murder. I need to ask.
00:00:39
Speaker
How are you? Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. A little sad. I just had to take my girlfriend to the airport today and back to her homeland of Finland. All good because I'll be there in about a little over a month. I don't want to be staying there three months.
00:00:55
Speaker
Now we've talked about this off air a lot because of, you know, the fact that like, okay, we have a hockey podcast as well. And, you know, just in terms of like, oh, if we wanted to play games or whatever, you have figured out like how you're going to be able to record and do stuff while you're over there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be bringing.
00:01:16
Speaker
Yeah, either my desktop or if my laptop, which is mostly just for watching stuff, if that can handle like recording and things like that, it's yeah, but likely going to have to be taken my desktop. It's going to be fun. Yeah, that's going to be that I would be so anxious that entire flight. Yeah, well, yeah, that's my plan is to like, I'm going to have to my laptop is going to be like,
00:01:44
Speaker
Like in its original packaging with like the styrofoam and shit. And I'm going to probably take it as a carry on because I don't trust that like being handled by people other than myself. Exactly. Exactly. Like I was thinking that too, you know, especially like over a year ago when my wife got to go with us for the first time to go over there, we had the joking but not joking conversation about, okay, what would it be like to move to a different,
00:02:14
Speaker
continent yeah and that was one of those things where it's like okay what do you sell over here and then just repurchase once you're over there and then yeah for me I was just like oh god I'd have to trust somebody with a multi thousand dollar computer rig and I you see horror stories I see horror stories all the time of people having items damaged and
00:02:41
Speaker
Anyway, I'm sure it'll be fine. The
Health Talk and Episode Research
00:02:45
Speaker
moving itself process whenever the application for residency gets approved, that's going to be a thing in and of itself. But luckily, I don't have to take a bed, which is going to be fantastic. I don't have to take my desk, which is also fantastic.
00:03:03
Speaker
But it's all like my prized possession. All my tech stuff, clothes, whatever. But yeah, all my Warhammer stuff too. That's the thing. That's another thing that worries me. Understand. Well, in between our prior episodes and such,
00:03:23
Speaker
and while you've been having a great time as of late, I haven't. People might be able to hear it in the voice a little bit. Your boy has been battling bronchitis. I don't do 2024.
00:03:43
Speaker
from a sickness standpoint, from an illness, not sickness, because sickness makes it sound like it could be, it could have been fun. It hasn't been all that fun. No. Um, I don't know. I used to get bronchitis every single year when I was a kid. It was just a recurring thing. So I used to have
00:04:03
Speaker
horrible luck with getting sick through elementary school, really all through school, which isn't all that surprising when you consider what schools are. They're just gigantic term factories.
00:04:15
Speaker
Um, and then it wasn't as bad when I was working like, you know, in, in the public jobs at a high school, stuff like that. But over the last, you know, while since it's been like, okay, YouTube and Twitch, obviously I haven't been getting as sick as much, even with my wife being a teacher, especially for the first couple of years. Cause it's like, Oh, people are wearing masks. Yeah.
00:04:36
Speaker
people aren't getting sick anymore. I had that conversation with my doctor the other day where it's like, yeah, I didn't diagnose a single case of strep throat for a year and a half because people were wearing masks. Funny
25th Anniversary of 'Mind Over Murder'
00:04:49
Speaker
that masks work.
00:04:51
Speaker
Which makes sense as to why I didn't wear one when I flew. Beginning of March, I ended up getting COVID for the first time after traveling to North Carolina. And now this month, after traveling to Tennessee, attractive bronchitis because apparently my immune system is still recovering from COVID. But it's just the flu, don't worry. Fucking idiots. It's been a fun experience to be
00:05:20
Speaker
dealing with those two things back to back. And now I'm just like, huh, you know, you take for granted the ability to talk for more than two seconds without feeling like you're going to die. So I'm happy to be here is what I'm trying to say. Positive vibes. Good vibes.
00:05:39
Speaker
on deck for today's show. Now, I watched this last night. You watch this literally just before we started to record. So this is this is fresh in the brain for both of us. But before we get into it, I wanted to mention a couple of things that I had looked up. I really enjoy looking up writers, producers, stuff like that for individual episodes. And I'm sure you notice the writer of this episode has a character named after him. Yes, indeed. So
00:06:09
Speaker
We'll bring you all back, as I mentioned, Mind Over Murder, the fourth episode of Family Guy debuted on April 25th, 1999. So we just passed the 25th anniversary of this episode. Oh man, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's rough. Sorry everybody. That's a little rough, yeah. This episode was written
00:06:34
Speaker
by the duo of Garrett Donovan and Neil Goldman, who yes, is the namesake of the future character. These two wrote a total of four episodes for Family Guy, but they went on to be involved in two other very notable shows, including being writers and executive producers for Scrubs,
00:07:00
Speaker
Which I have never seen an episode of. At least a full episode. That's one of those shows and I have a few of them. I think the best example has to be Monk. Where I just remember that show being on before a show I actually wanted to watch.
00:07:20
Speaker
But then I gave that show a chance and I'm like, oh, this is hilarious. And it's either because I never gave it a proper chance in the past or it's because I'm an old man now and I'm not sure which.
00:07:32
Speaker
So maybe my mom was really into monk. I remember she watched that. She had all the seasons, which I have, of course, inherited as I took. Somehow I got stuck with all the fucking DVD box sets when my sister and I were dividing up her worldly possessions. So yeah, they're just in a huge box underneath my Warhammer table. But yeah, I mean, it seemed like a good show. I watched bits and pieces here and there, but I never got into monk either and scrubs or something that.
00:08:00
Speaker
I don't know like it looks fine it looks funny it was just it i never just got into it you know it's only so much tv i can watch. They also went on to become executive producers for community another show i have not really given an honest try towards me neither but
Writer and Director Influences
00:08:16
Speaker
i have i have heard that one is very good. The episode was directed by a man named roi allen smith.
00:08:25
Speaker
which, you know, if you have, if you have a name like Roy Allen Smith, yeah, you go by the full name. You're not just Roy Smith, right? This was his only family guy credit. I was going to say, I don't remember that name cropping up at any other time. He has quite the history elsewhere though. He directed and produced the land before time, two, three, and four. Oh, the second one's the best. Let's go.
00:08:53
Speaker
I haven't seen those in forever, by the way. I just say the second one's the best, because that's the one I watched the most. There you go. He was also a producer for Muppet Babies, The Ren and Stimpy Show, and the Earthworm Jim television series, as well as a director for The Silver Surfer. Okay. That's a good... Hey, that's an impressive line of work. It is. That's all I'm saying.
00:09:23
Speaker
Although, God, Muppet Babies is one of those shows where I'm like, I must have watched that, but just there's something about it where I cannot imagine going back and watching it. Yeah, I don't know if I ever watched that. And unsurprisingly, the title, Mind Over Murder, was inspired by 1930s and 1940s radio programs, particularly the radio thriller anthology series, Suspense, which
00:09:52
Speaker
I'm pretty sure I've seen that that obviously genre and time period was influential towards stuff like Twilight Zone. Oh, yeah. Obviously, you know, the influence that that spins off after that. So no real surprise. Yeah. Yeah. Seth MacFarlane was obviously a huge just in in in every single way a media nerd. And that'll crop up with some with some jokes later on. And I guess I'll wait to give all the insight info when those jokes pop up. So it makes a hell of a lot more sense. But yeah, it's
Episode Analysis and Humor
00:10:23
Speaker
Yeah, quite, quite a funny story and a little bit of a, uh, can relate to moments in that. And I think it's coming up in not too long, but then again, all these early seasons for me and family guy can often tend to like blend together the same way we thought in that first episode, we're all the jokes in that one. We remembered from like possible different episodes, just cause the jokes per per minute, as you said, in the, in that pilot episode, we're just so dense. I didn't even remember half of them being in that episode.
00:10:53
Speaker
This was another episode for me where there were certain jokes where I'm like, Jesus, it was that early. But we'll get to those when we cross them. But the episode itself opens with the Lincoln assassination in the form of a Mentos commercial. Mentos. You got to watch out for the copyright. Yeah. Yeah. Change one letter and you're fine.
00:11:17
Speaker
Which everyone hates and deems ineffective in making them want to mint, except for Peter who has been brainwashed into wanting to kill Lincoln. Fantastic. You know, we kind of talked about it, what was it, episode two that wasn't quite as strong as the first in terms of how it opened?
00:11:39
Speaker
I think it was a joke of like, Stewie, like, oh, I'm already reading at a second grade level or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Like that didn't quite hit as well. This was good. This was good. Yeah, it's been a little bit of time in between us recording episode three and episode four and a strong joke at the start of an episode kind of gets you right back into the mindset, especially one with, you know, the long payoff like that. And then that takes a turn that doesn't that you
00:12:07
Speaker
clearly aren't expecting whatsoever. That's just like the classic family guy formula, essentially right there. They sometimes will draw things out much longer with topical references, and then they just take you in a completely different, ridiculous direction. Once again, showing how stupid Peter is, of course. The episode really opens up, though, with Lois daydreaming about performing
00:12:33
Speaker
she is interrupted by Stewie who is teething and he has a tremendous line as Lois mentions to him that teething is a normal part of a baby's life so he responds all right I order you to kill me at once which I didn't remember
00:12:54
Speaker
at all. And it got me even better than it just got me now. Yeah, like that. It's classic. And I love the follow up, the shake me like a British nanny. Yeah. Now.
00:13:11
Speaker
Do you know what that is in reference to specifically? I'm sure you could piece together what it is in reference to. No, I was I was going to look that up, but I figured since you were writing the script this time, like you'll you'll you'll have the answer for me. I sure do. It refers to a February 1997 case that took place in Newton, Massachusetts.
00:13:34
Speaker
where an 18-year-old was charged with murder but ultimately convicted of involuntary manslaughter of an eight-month-old. Skip ahead 30 seconds if you don't like particularly rough details because, yeah, it's rough.
00:13:55
Speaker
The baby had died from a fractured skull and subdural hematoma and had previously and had a previously unnoticed fractured wrist. Although initially found guilty of second degree murder, the judge reduced this person's conviction to involuntary manslaughter during a post conviction hearing, leading to her release after serving just 279 days. Well, that's wow. Yeah, that's.
00:14:25
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That, that was not even here. Yeah. God damn. Yeah. She must be hot. You know, okay. Hot and white and in the nineties.
00:14:47
Speaker
Well, now I have to know. I mean, obviously, dude, like where in Massachusetts, what is it? Was it in like one of the more upscale places? Was it where she hired by some husband wanting to live out a pornographic fancy? It's like, I don't care if she's good with kids. She's hot. That's just where my mind went. So Newton is it's less than 10 miles outside of Boston, like straight up suburb North Shore, though.
00:15:14
Speaker
God, I forget the geographics of Newton, to be honest. I try not to think about Newton. You know. Yeah. It wasn't. Yeah, you know, lace curtain. I'm trying to choose my words carefully here.
00:15:39
Speaker
Um, to your speculation of was it because she may have been deemed as attractive? Perhaps. Give me a rating. You have the I'm just kidding. Sorry. I'm going to say perhaps later on the hot scale. Um, you got to get a pre mugshot photo. Sorry. Oh, God. So anyway,
00:16:09
Speaker
Um, she shook a baby and yeah, and she hot though. That's America. That's America. That's our, that's our judge or, or, you know, our judicial system in a nutshell, let's be honest. Um, we cut to Peter, Brian Cleveland and Quagmire fishing and drinking heavily as Cleveland recalls a joke. Peter told at a bar.
00:16:37
Speaker
As he says, a Jewish guy looks over his shoulder, sees a bunch of Jewish guys, and a Chinese guy looks over the other shoulder, sees a bunch of Chinese guys, walk into a bar. Nobody takes offense. But Peter fails to notice the naked priest at the other side of the table, who isn't offended by being brought up either.
00:16:59
Speaker
That immediately made me think of like, okay, how well known was or were the stories, the rumors that had about
00:17:09
Speaker
You know, about the sexual abuse within the Catholic Church. Granted, this was pre-2002 when the Boston Globe launched the major story that, I mean, literally led to films like Spotlight and stuff like that. But it was kind of an open secret all the way before that. Yeah, I mean, years before, like, Sinead O'Connor ripped up the picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live.
00:17:35
Speaker
So, I mean, it was known by the way, everyone owes an apology. Yeah, she she never really got it either before she passed. Nope. So that was. Ah, fun. Yeah, I remember when I said it was going to be a fun episode. Get all of the depressing shit out of the way. The Lincoln assassination shaking babies and Catholic Church.
00:18:04
Speaker
Peter returns home with Brian as Lois finishes slaving away over the house. I like Brian's line of I'll be in your bed, no calls. You mentioned it in a prior review, just how they continue to tow the line between how human Brian is versus just he's a dog. And they'd continue to play with that. Here, up to this day, I would say.
00:18:31
Speaker
I also like, we didn't mention it, but when he, when Peter can't remember Brian's name on the boat, when he's like saying how good his friends are. I don't know why. That's just a little thing that just tickles me. As Peter muddies up the house and drops a fish on the living room table for lowest gut scale, bed and fully prepared. But he took care of dinner.
00:18:57
Speaker
Yes, Peter explains that he cannot possibly help Lois cook, as he recalls being bad at doing laundry, in which Peter enters the washing machine where noted goat bastard, Mr. Tumnus, has stolen his sock. So many Lion Witch and the Wardrobe references from the show over the years,
00:19:28
Speaker
This is one of the first lines of this episode where him calling Mr. Tumnus goat bastard has, has stuck with me over the years. Whenever I, whenever I see that character, it's always your goat bastard. Oh my God.
00:19:48
Speaker
And also the voice clearly of Mr. Tumnus, Seth McFarland, obviously. Very, very close to a Stewie slash. I don't know what else, but yeah. I don't know how many spins he can put on a British accent, you know? Yeah. Peter recalls being bad at changing Stewie who pees in his face, which, you know. They put paprika on him, man.
00:20:17
Speaker
But also, why is Paprika next to the talcum? Oh, my God. As Peter Fights bring Chris to soccer practice, he finally gives in with, you know, I spoil you, which is another line that I'll use all the time. This is a good one for that. You know, absolutely. It just this is like the main episode where you're like, how the hell is Lois with this person?
00:20:45
Speaker
How does Lincoln, how did that even happen? And how did, well, how does she stay? Yes. Peter finally brings Chris to soccer practice where he sees Quagmire in the stands with beer, preying on soccer moms. And Peter unsurprisingly elects to stay rather than going home back at home. Stewie comes up with the novel idea of a time machine to skip over the teething process.
00:21:14
Speaker
More on that throughout this entire episode, of course. Back at soccer practice, Peter Hells, go Chris, daddy loves you in a platonic way. I'm married. Oh my god.
00:21:30
Speaker
I just want to point out also that like every single kind of B story so far is like Stewie oriented. It's always him doing some, you know, maniacal evil baby genius type thing. And I can't I can't remember exactly when he gets his first a story. He's just always kind of his arc right now is just always like in the background doing these maniacal baby genius things and
00:21:55
Speaker
Yeah, I know he obviously is going to get some A stories usually paired with Brian that that was a chemistry they found really good. But yeah, I just found it quite interesting that that was pretty much the sole focus of all of their B story slash, you know, their background story, side story, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, between like the ray gun, the weather control device. Yeah. Well, Chris is a great formula, though. Yes.
00:22:21
Speaker
Chris catches the ball leading to a penalty for the other team and leading to a fellow father, and air quotes, to berate Chris.
House Arrest and Cultural References
00:22:33
Speaker
Peter demands an apology to which he doesn't get one and gets the beer slapped out of his hand. Peter slugs the man, air quotes, discovering that he hit a woman who then gives birth on the spot.
00:22:51
Speaker
I also hit my mom. Do you mean my you mean your father? Yes, just every he just still you know at first He's like he doesn't get it, and then he's just in complete denial over what he did But don't worry he makes up for it by sending a jack-in-the-box to the hospital for the baby that then knocks out the mother again I Looked up
00:23:14
Speaker
who played the woman, by the way. And it was an actor by the name of Alex Rocco, who was most well known for playing Mo Green in The Godfather. Holy crap. That was him? Yeah. What a voice actor. He sounds nothing like that in The Godfather.
00:23:42
Speaker
I would know I didn't watch it. I didn't care for it. It insists upon itself. I knew you were gonna go there. I just did a big scene while the guy sitting in the chairs. I am one of the best scenes in that movie. One of us was gonna bring it up the second I mentioned it. I just reached for the punch. Oh my god. Now you guys can see why we do a Family Guy podcast. This is our sense of humor towards one another. These are our references. Just two giant nerds, to be honest.
00:24:12
Speaker
Peter recalls the other times that he broke the law by loitering, peeing in the pool, and sneaking into Wimbledon with the same gag of his eyes. I don't know how you can make eyes going back and forth turn out funny, but yeah, apparently watching a tennis matches how you do that. They had that good mix of the simplicity of some jokes and then obviously dipping into massive absurdity for others.
00:24:42
Speaker
We find out that Peter's on house arrest as they integrate pong into him being on house arrest as he's being monitored. Excuse me, running back and forth across his living room. The bronchitis. It's fighting. Yeah, just the sheer amount of old callbacks, especially. I mean, I I reference my childhood pretty constantly, too, and like
00:25:08
Speaker
the fact that you're going to have an artistic medium as obviously Seth MacFarlane did to be able to put those things in. And the fact, well, I don't know how many people, especially if you're a younger fan of this show, let's say you were born in the 2000s. I doubt you've ever played Pong. I was lucky enough to be able to play it on like an old PC laptop at one point. But it's, you know, it's obviously an incredibly old game. Yeah, it was
00:25:35
Speaker
This was a couple years ago now at this point, but my dad had a friend of his give him like an original like Atari Pong set up. So we got to play that on an old CRT and it's amazing. Yes, very fun. So Peter's on house arrest. Lois, though, is excited to have him home.
00:25:58
Speaker
Peter, though, is already bored out of his mind. He's even tired of television, including Homicide on Sesame Street. This is one of my all time favorite bits and lines. So you get, now this is a spoof of Homicide, Life on the Street, where Burt is a struggling alcoholic detective who verbally abuses Ernie.
00:26:26
Speaker
Which, honestly, yeah, it's one of my favorite lines of the show of all time when he's like, I wish you wouldn't eat cookies in the damn bed! And Ernie is like, Bert, you're shouting again, Bert. It fucking gets me every single time.
00:26:46
Speaker
I had to do another deep dive, and first and foremost, I completely agree with you, I love that, but I had to look up Homicide Life on the Street as well, because I had never heard of the show, but it ran from January of 1993 to May of 1999 on NBC. Oh, wow. It covered a fictionalized version of Baltimore's police department homicide unit, starring Daniel Baldwin and Richard Belzer.
00:27:17
Speaker
Sorry. Go ahead. You've mentioned a Baldwin and I thought of another family guy reference when Alec Baldwin is feeding all of his brothers from his many nipples, apparently. Get up, Steven. You're the weakest. Holy shit. Daniel Baldwin, of course.
00:27:41
Speaker
I wear it's time for everyone's favorite segment. Rank the Baldwin brothers. It's not the Alec Baldwin simply because he was in the departed. He's just at the top. I mean, just by default, he's at the top anyway. I think I've seen any of the others in anything.
00:28:04
Speaker
Okay, so Daniel Baldwin, this was, when you go to his Wikipedia, homicide life on the street is the big thing that's mentioned. Uh, Mulholland falls from 96, a couple of other things, but nothing too crazy. Yeah. Stephen Baldwin, who you mentioned, um, unusual suspects, but he was also in biodome and the Flintstones Viva rock Vegas biodome with Polly Shore. Yes, sir. Oh my God. Well, I saw that once.
00:28:34
Speaker
Hey, yeah. Like any Paulie Shore movie. Yes. That's once the best. That's enough, John Mayer. For me. It's Billy Baldwin in second. Alec Baldwin has to be the number one, but for me, it's Billy Baldwin in second solely because of the greatest film of all time. Backdraft. Is that the fire movie?
00:29:04
Speaker
Yes, with him and Kurt Russell. I probably saw that, but I can't remember anything about it. So that was like my favorite movie as like a four to seven year old. That sounds like at least a PG-13 movie, buddy. Why were you watching that? Well, that's the thing, right? I mean, it was a Ron Howard film. Like I didn't understand any of the implications of anything. I just liked fire trucks as a kid.
00:29:34
Speaker
So it was perfect. It's because they're solitary killers. Yeah. Just, you know, I had my time as a kid where I'm like, Ooh, fireman, I could be a fireman. Um, that didn't happen, but you know, um, and as mentioned, the show also started Richard Belzer, who, uh, was on law and order for like 23 fucking years. I actually think if I'm not mistaken,
00:30:04
Speaker
His character transferred over from homicide life on the street to law and order. Oh, weird. Pretty sure. So shout out to Richard Belzer, who was once- So that's technically the same universe,
Baseball, Geography, and Ghosts
00:30:23
Speaker
interesting. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if it's the same universe as our universe where
00:30:30
Speaker
Richard Belzer for me is most famous, not for being on Law and Order SVU, but for being choked out by Hulk Hogan. That was a thing that happened. An excerpt here. On March 27, 1985, four days before the very first WrestleMania,
00:30:52
Speaker
Richard Belzer repeatedly requested on his TV talk show Hot Properties that professional wrestler Hulk Hogan demonstrate a wrestling move. Hogan applied a front face lock which caused Belzer to pass out and he hit the back of his head on the floor when released. After waking up, Belzer was days lacerated and briefly hospitalized. He later sued Hogan for $5 million and settled out of court for $400,000 in 1990.
00:31:21
Speaker
He fucking, like, that's the thing of literally asking for it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, granted, Hulk Hogan, like, you don't just let someone go after putting him in a face lock, right? Like, in case they pass out or get dazed, you should probably help them down. But, hey, Hulk Hogan's never been one to do the right thing all the time.
00:31:46
Speaker
1985 to like wrestling was still very like, you know, a lot of people knew, but it was still very much presented as absolutely not. We are very much a serious sport. So, you know, when you have someone like Richard Belzer being like, hey, because the 80s to me sounds like it looked like the most ridiculous era of wrestling ever. I don't know how they were being like, yeah, it's real. You got just some of the characters in the outlandishness of that.
00:32:15
Speaker
They were in the middle of the transition between
00:32:21
Speaker
You know, straightforward trunks, boots, whatever, couple characters here and there to the over the top. Here's Hulk Hogan, that's the big character. And yeah, so they were in that transition period. Last thing about that, Belzer refers to the settlement in his 1997 HBO stand up special revealing it helped him pay for a home that he called Shay Hogan or the Hulk Hogan estate.
00:32:52
Speaker
So at least he had a good sense of humor about it, I suppose. All of that to say, there was one other actor who was very notable for his role on Homicide Life on the Street. It was known as Andre Brower's breakthrough role, which
00:33:15
Speaker
Unfortunately, most people know him nowadays for Brooklyn Nine-Nine. And of course, having just passed away this past December. But that was the big breakthrough moment for him was on that show as well. So from me not knowing a damn thing about homicide life on the street to doing a deep dive and learning a little bit.
00:33:40
Speaker
I always find it interesting kind of what shows were going on in the eighties or nineties. And it's like, Oh yeah, it was kind of the breakout for that particular actor and so on and so forth. So it might be worth checking it. Don't forget the show is also brought to you by the letter E. Peter says Lois is lucky that all of the things she likes doing are here in the house already like cooking and cleaning before, you know, Brian tries to shut him up to save him from himself.
00:34:12
Speaker
Lois tries to explain that she does these things because she loves her family as Peter continues to dig himself a hole. As Peter ponders, I wonder what the guys are doing. It cuts to Quagmire and Cleveland at the community pool. And I believe this is the first example of Cleveland's
00:34:30
Speaker
Oh, that's nasty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It obviously becomes quite the catchphrase from him throughout the entirety of the show. I mean, you can think of tons and tons of interest instances where it comes back. Yeah. Peter heads to the family basement where he's spooked by a spider and a spider dog, eventually falling down the stairs and then seeing the ghost of the Pawtucket Patriot
00:34:57
Speaker
who Peter thinks is coming on to him. Yes. Now, I got to ask you, I don't really know as much about the east coast as I would like to, besides like history and the Revolutionary War and shit. And that's kind of what is Pawtucket. Is that a place community like a like a county or a city or an island? Oh, OK. OK. That makes sense. So the. But I figured I'd wait on the show to ask you to see. Yes, the poster.
00:35:27
Speaker
the home, formerly, of the Pawtucket Red Sox, which were the AAA ball club of the Boston Red Sox, known as the Paw Sox, which... God, I... That's my one big thing about Pawtucket is I don't have too much to add about it just because it's...
00:35:50
Speaker
It summed up well. It's Rhode Island's, you know, there's some good aspects about Rhode Island, but much like Maine, you're also very much overshadowed. It's a state that's pretty much a city anyway. In a lot of ways, yeah. It's so small. But that's the big thing for me, is being upset that the Paw Sox don't exist anymore. And that they're now in Worcester. Good God!
00:36:16
Speaker
Sorry, I had to look it up because I didn't realize just how large is Rhode Island. It's only 1,200 square miles. Yeah. That's insane. Sorry. See, I live in California where it could be our own country. Yeah. Yeah. Rhode Island could not be. It's the best way to sum that up.
00:36:36
Speaker
The Pawtucket Patriot gives Peter a speech straight out of Field of Dreams, essentially stating, if you build it, they will come. Any Field of Dreams memories, because I love that movie as a kid. I haven't seen that movie in God knows how long. It's great. Be better without Kevin Costner.
00:37:02
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Fuck you, Kevin Costner. I just love shitting on Kevin Costner, which I think I got that from Family Guy when they're always shitting on Kevin Costner. But yeah, it's such a cool movie. I don't remember. It's well over a decade, maybe even two decades since I saw it last. But yeah, I remember my mom sat me down to watch it with her. And it's just such a cool, just a really cool story, like in a very cool concept that
00:37:31
Speaker
I don't know, man, you just don't see original concepts like this anymore that often. Just with the way how media consumption and media in general has trended, particularly with the advent of streaming. Now, I don't know if they're doing it again, but 2021 and 2022 MLB did their Field of Dreams games where they went to Dyersville, Iowa.
00:37:58
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population four thousand four hundred and seventy seven. And literally in the middle of a cornfield, they built they built a park and played two games there. August 12, 2021, White Sox and Yankees in August 11, 2022 Cubs and Reds. Yeah, you got to go to the old school. And those games were awesome. Yeah, man.
00:38:24
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Can't believe I didn't watch it. So I'll have to. Are they? Is it confirmed they're doing them again? So they're not going to the same location, but there is a game scheduled between the Giants and the Cardinals this year at Rick Woodfield in Alabama, which is the home of a minor league baseball team, if I'm not mistaken, is listed as the oldest
00:38:54
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baseball park in the United States. Wow. So not quite a cornfield, but that is still a pretty damn cool idea. I don't know. June 20th of this year. So that's pretty cool. Former home of the Birmingham Black Barons, who Willie Mays played for in the Negro Leagues from 1948 to 1950. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. There's a lot of history tied to that stadium. That's sick.
00:39:24
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What is the current AAA? It's Birmingham something. I know it. I just haven't played the show in a while. At least the Birmingham Barons. That's right. Yeah. Yes. Who are affiliated with the White Sox. So there you go. Works out well. Anyway, tangents. I mean, they're they're fans of Family Guy. I don't think they would mind us going, you know, doing cutaway tangents. Oh, that's it's very on brand, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:52
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We cut to Lois preparing a dinner while Peter decrees the bar downstairs. Ye old pub. Of course, old and pub both having ease at the end and he paints over the E and old. This is the only correct one. Yes. Typical fucking Peter.
00:40:10
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Lois waits for hours before discovering Peter in the bar. Peter's happy. He's just like Tim Allen. He builds stuff and has a criminal record as Tim Allen snorts into a screen wipe to
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the next scene. Oh, that's what that is? Oh yeah. I thought he was holding a cigar. I viewed that as a straw. Oh shit.
00:40:39
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This is a good debate. Now, now we have to settle this because I always thought he was just like holding a cigar and they pulls it like a side. That's like how I always saw it. But your way fucking makes sense. And family, I would absolutely go there to make fun of his. Well, his troubles with Coke. Yes. In the 80s.
00:40:58
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For those who do not know, and of course you can find this simply on his freaking Wikipedia page. For those who do not know, cocaine is a hell of a drug. On October 2nd, 1978, Tim Allen was arrested at the Kalamazoo Battle Creek International Airport, which just on its own. You're gonna have a meat coffin now. Jesus.
00:41:27
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Who knew that was a place? Jesus Christ. He was arrested for possession of over 650 grams of cocaine, equaling 1.43 pounds. He subsequently pled guilty to felony drug trafficking charges. However,
00:41:51
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He also provided the names of other dealers in exchange for a sentence of three to seven years rather than possible life imprisonments.
00:42:03
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He was paroled on June 12, 1981, after serving two years and four months in a federal correctional institution, Sandstone in Sandstone, Minnesota. So Tim Allen is a narc, kids. Yes. Yeah. And uh, stayed out of trouble for the most part, aside from a DUI in 1998. Um,
00:42:27
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Yeah, I very much viewed that as a coke straw that he was snorting into a screen wipe like it's crazy. Maybe I'm wrong, but I I swear that that's at least what I saw. Oh, shit, because he puts it right on Peter's white. Yeah, but to me, it still looks like a cigar because like one end of it, I'm looking at the picture right now. One end of it is like gray like it was burnt.
00:42:55
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OK, OK. Well, maybe I mean, yeah, different interpretations. You you saw it from the legal way of the plausible deniability of fruits. Oh, my God. Look at this mugshot of Tim Allen. Oh, yeah. Tim Allen's mugshots impressive. That is the most 70s looking man that ever 70s. Basically, holy crap. Yeah.
00:43:22
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And then, of course, he went on to be the, you know, he went on to be Santa Claus and the voice of Buzz Lightyear and... What the fuck? Why this shit always pop up over my camera? At least it's not the fireworks. What is... Ah, it's so weird. If you're on the video side of things, you're just going to be seeing weird stuff whenever I do hand gestures. I was going to ask, favorite Tim Allen role?
00:43:50
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Honestly, the Santa Claus. I am not a huge fan of that man or his work, but his credit to the art credit to the writers also credit to his delivery. I think he is.
00:44:03
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The Santa Claus is honestly one of the funniest fucking Christmas movies of all time. And he's such a piece of shit. And it's hilarious in that movie, like how much of a piece of shit he is and the way in the movie. I thought you were talking in general. Well, yeah, that too. But no, like him in that movie, I mean, he plays a piece of shit so well and then you later find out, oh, he's kind of a piece of shit like that tracks. Right.
00:44:26
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The same way Mark Wahlberg being very racist in, you know, The Departed later, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, OK. But like, no, like it's. It I don't know what it is like it that movie always makes me laugh like he's just he's so so good in that role, the writing for him, the jokes were just so good, the sarcasm, just being a complete asshole to the stepfather who is in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, who is also tremendous in that movie. It was it's honestly, I think,
00:44:57
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I would say my favorite Christmas movie. Like it's it's up there. Like it's just because it's it's I can be cliche, but at the same time, like, you know, it's funny and it plays to the comedy very, very well. But it also has, you know, the heartfelt poignancy that every Christmas movie needs. And it doesn't get in the Hallmark territory, which is always good.
00:45:23
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The person you're referring to, by the way, was Judge Reinhold. Thank you. I never remember that guy's name, but he is tremendous. Tremendous in those movies. Fast Times. He was in Stripes, which is an awesome goddamn movie. He's sucking us into his delusions. Oh, goodness. Anyway, Tim Allen.
00:45:50
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Peter is hosting all of his drinking buddies in his new bar, telling jokes. What's the difference between porno and art? A government grant. It made me think of like, oh yes, quite shallow and pedantic. Yes. Peter goes upstairs and asks Lois to make 600 clam cakes as she furiously walks away.
00:46:21
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I don't even know why she was doing all his goddamn dishes in the first place. Lois, you deserve dinner. Yeah. Peter then gives Stewie some whiskey for a toothache, as Peter recalls his mother doing the same as it cuts away to her throwing a glass at young Peter. I thought it was a whole bottle, but yeah. Same, same thing. Just chucking it. Oh my god.
00:46:43
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Lois takes a bath as she daydreams over her profession or desired profession and Peter being a loving husband as she gets interrupted by some dude peeing. We got back to the bar where Meg is waitressing and Stewie is drunk at the counter talking to Misty. Misty. Who did the excellent Monica?
00:47:14
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Ah, damn. Oh. He continues to talk about his time traveling device. Lois heads to the bar, dismissing Chris from working the door after he asks for her ID.
00:47:29
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Where she finds Stewie drunk, and she is of course furious. As she brings Stewie back upstairs, he sings, show me the way to go home. Everybody, I'm tired and I want to go to bed. Just the women, which I still quote to this day. Tremendous. Peter has brought Lois's piano down to the bar for the buffet, but lies that he wants Lois to perform.
00:47:59
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as he states to everyone in the bar, pretend you like it, no matter how bad it stinks. Lois crushes it, although awkwardly, this was the first time, like in one of these first episodes, I noticed that the animation was kind of rough. Like the line work in particular was just really off. Yeah. There's some times where I think, um,
00:48:24
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They drew it a certain way and then sometimes they'll zoom in on it and so therefore the lines kind of get thicker and less sharp. I think that was one of those occasions.
00:48:39
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Yeah, special shout out for for a long time. I actually thought that was someone else doing the singing for Lois because she did sound slightly different. But it is actually Alex Borstein, who has clearly a tremendous voice. And the only reason she doesn't sound totally like Lois is because, well, it's quite hard to always sing in a character voice. But she hits a lot of the she hits a lot of the notes to evoke Lois anyway. And I think that's.
00:49:12
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The men are
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all ogling Lois, leading to Peter getting jealous. The next day though, Lois is overjoyed at having been able to perform while Stewie is hungover.
00:49:24
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Lois ponders if his gums are sore leading to another tremendous quote that I still use to this day with Stewie going, are you a detective? Which
00:49:40
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I have used that as a sassy response like when we've been playing games on Twitch with friends. Endo in particular has been on the receiving end of that on numerous occasions. Peter tries to convince Lois not to perform thinking that no one wants to hear it as it cuts away to her performing at a packed bar downstairs.
00:50:03
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Um, Joe, or not Joe, excuse me. It was Cleveland. We'll get to Joe soon. It was Cleveland admiring Lois's performance. Quagmire states. Now that's a woman. That's a fish. That's a bee. First flashcards.
00:50:24
Speaker
God damn it, just another freaking quote. These early episodes, like we have stated before, have made such an impression that it still lasted 25 years later.
00:50:37
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A guy walks up to the bar and states, now she's a smoking little pistol, isn't she? To which Peter asks if he's a woman and then slugs him when he says no, which obviously a great little just call back to what had happened earlier in the episode. Just to be honest, who wouldn't slug that guy? He was animated as like the typical late 90s douchebag, long ponytail and those weird rectangular dickbag glasses. I agree.
00:51:06
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Peter's house arrest ends as he joins Lois at the supermarket, as a man compliments Lois on her melons and hooters, ultimately getting away with it because of what Lois is holding, only to then state, your wife's hot, and then he sprints away.
00:51:28
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Peter doesn't want Lois to continue performing, flashing back to when he didn't marry Leslie Uggams because she wasn't Lola Falana. I had no idea who the hell they were referring to here, so I did more research. They got her to actually voice herself too, which is impressive because they're essentially saying you're unrecognizable.
00:51:54
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Which isn't true as Leslie Uggams, who as I mentioned, did voice herself in this cutaway. She's an actress most known for her appearance on the TV series Roots, where she earned a Golden Globe and Emmy nominations. She had great success on Broadway as well. But even more recently, she was in the Deadpool films as Blind Al. Oh, yeah.
00:52:20
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And even today at 80 years old, she is involved in successful series appearing on Amazon's new Fallout series as Betty Pearson. So not bad for someone who 25 years ago was at the butt end of this joke. I mean, that's that's tremendous. And I had to look up Lola Falana as well.
00:52:46
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a Tony-nominated actress, dancer, singer. She appeared on numerous late-night programs in the 70s. I took this from the Wikipedia side of things, though, but with help from Sammy Davis Jr., who, by the way, she had an affair with.
00:53:03
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Um, so, you know, there might've been a reason for
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the help was to say, uh, she brought her back to Las Vegas where she became a top draw by the late 1970s. Philana was considered the queen of Las Vegas. She played to sold out crowds at the sands, the Riviera MGM grand hotels. And finally the Aladdin offered her $100,000 a week to perform at the time. Philana was the highest paid female performer in Las Vegas. When was that a hundred thousand a week?
00:53:29
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Uh, late seventies. Jesus Christ. That's getting like a million a week right now. I was going to say, let's see the inflation calculator. Do you have an official guess? All right. In the one was it again? What year? Let's, let's go with 1978 as a, as a random option.
00:53:54
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as late 70s. We'll go with 1978 and it's $100,000. We'll say in March of 1978, how much is that in today's money? Do you think? Man, that's right before the Reagan presidency. So that inflation is about to get out of control. So a hundred thousand. How much do I think that it is in today's money? 78. Honestly, I'm going to say 1.125 million.
00:54:25
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Not that crazy. Fuck. Yeah. 492 thousand. That's it. I mean, to be to be fair, that's still a 400 percent fucking increase, but. Yeah, I was going to say, right. It's like, oh, really? That's it. But yeah, then you think about the math behind. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. I did get a little crazy. Yeah. I did. I did also just go fucking grocery shopping until a little pissed.
00:54:54
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Yeah, that'll skew your opinion on finances. That's for sure. I can relate to that. I think we all can. We come back to Peter at the supermarket who runs into the woman that he punched and all of the townwives, including the first appearance in this episode here of Cleveland's wife, Loretta. Loretta. And they are all pissed at Lois for taking their husband's attention.
00:55:22
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Lois spitefully that night at the bar sings towards Peter as Stewie loses his blueprints as Lois shows it off to the crowd as they dissect his plans for a time machine. Stewie tries to cover up that it's not a time machine by stating it's, it's a pheasant, which who draws a pheasant? My grandpa used to take me out pheasant hunting when I was a kid.
00:55:53
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And, uh, fun story. There's an old family video of him picking up one of the dead pheasants. And I was like, he was just trying to hand it to me. And I was like, I don't want to touch this dead thing. And he just says it's odd. It's the funniest fucking thing. He's like, Paul, it's a pheasant. It's dead. Yeah, this is a man who taught fighter pilots in World War II. And here is his grandson afraid to touch a dead bird.
00:56:20
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The real greatest generation. Holy shit. Oh, man. If you ever find that idea, I don't know how I would. I'm I know we have in storage, a bunch of old photographs. I'm assuming there's old family videos in there somewhere. Yeah, we got to we got to digitize all that shit. Yeah. Stewie furiously also then states you shall rue this day. Go on. Start ruling.
00:56:51
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This was a great episode for long-standing quotes. Oh, yeah. Stewie runs upstairs as he tells Lois to burn in hell, to which Lois responds, hell, hell has fire, which is a part of the on again, off again in the early episodes of Can They Understand Stewie? Yes, and that just adds to the confusion. Oh, and I can't wait till they break the fourth wall on that in a very specific episode.
00:57:17
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The wives then head down to the bar to confront Lois, who monologues about what this means to her, turning them against Peter, who fails to use his hidden bookcase to escape as he gets trapped in it. Quagmire then accidentally sets the bar on fire with a cigarette butt.
00:57:36
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as Stewie's upstairs coming up with a new plan to rewind time as opposed to fast forwarding. Are you laughing over the same thing I am? Yeah, that he has two random people tied up. It almost seems like it's supposed to be a reference to like James Bond and one of the Bond girls tied up together and he's a Bond villain, but I don't know.
00:58:02
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I love when the guy's trying to talk to Stevie and Stevie just goes silence and the guy's response just, oh, yeah, I'll never get away with this. Silence.
00:58:15
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Peter fails to use a fire extinguisher to put out the fire in the bar and apologizes to Lois promising to be a better husband. At the same time, Stewie succeeds in reversing time. And we cut back to the living room just before Peter is to bring Chris to soccer practice as Peter trips over Stewie's device, getting him out of having to bring Chris. Stewie's first two teeth break through and agree to bite the tongue to end the episode.
00:58:47
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Maybe maybe not like the strongest finish to the episode, right? Like they kind of wrapped everything up really quickly, I thought. But I very, very much enjoyed this episode in terms of its quotability and just in general, like it's one of those early episodes. I know a lot of people are kind of iffy on some of the early episodes, but
00:59:16
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It's it's not a it's not a can't skip. Like, I suppose you could if you wanted to. But for me, it's like, no, I can watch this episode and enjoy it. It's not an all time classic, but it is a solid episode for me. Yes, I do really like this episode. And it's it's also really it's like one of the first ones where they really start to bring out the musical side and.
00:59:41
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you know, emphasizing and that and obviously moving forward, there's going to be a ton more musical numbers and episodes that kind of, you know, feature a heck of a lot more music in it. And this was like the birth of it. And it's strange that it's not Seth MacFarlane singing, despite the fact that he is an incredible, incredible vocalist. And we'll obviously get a chance to hear all about that, including I don't know what season it is, but one of my favorite episodes of all time, where he has a great song as Brian that he sings.
01:00:12
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I mean, that could be one of many. Yes. Any overall or final thoughts kind of on episode four here, mind over murder? No, I think we only got one or two, one or two more episodes of the death titles and the old. I think that was the last one actually. Was that the last one? I thought we I thought there's five in total, man. Maybe there was only four.
01:00:39
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What is the next episode? The next episode, episode five of season one. Is it a hero sits next door yet? A hero sits next door. All right. Can't wait to meet Joe. I said we'd hear more from Joe and indeed we will. My recollection of this episode is that it is fantastic. Yes, I have. Yeah.
01:01:03
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Those are, yeah, we'll see how fantastic it truly is. Because sometimes your mind romanticizes certain things. I'm hoping it holds up. Yes, me too. At the very least. But we will have to wait until next time to get into that particular episode where hopefully I'll be even more recovered from this bout of bronchitis and sin. We'll not be depressed about the price of groceries. LOL, you will be. Don't worry, it's not changing.
01:01:31
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Maybe once you're in Europe, that'll change a little bit. Once I'm back in Finland, man, you get 30 euro for a week's worth. It's amazing. Imagine.
01:01:43
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Well, we talked about inflation earlier, so here we are. With that, everybody, we will bring this episode to a close. We want to thank you again for joining us here, whether or not you are on the YouTube side. Hey, if you're not already, just search the family guys and you'll find us there. And of course, if you're on the YouTube side of things and want to find us on the audio side, we are pretty much available on all of your pod catchers of choice. Do people still use that term? I don't know. Spotify.
01:02:13
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Apple podcast. We're out there. We're easy to find. I would hope, I would think, and hey. I'm sure we have links somewhere on the YouTube side of things as well. Yes, in the description for both the YouTube side, it'll bring you to the audio side, for the audio side, it'll bring you to the YouTube side.
01:02:27
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Quick and easy there. Watch us on all of them all at once. And rate us highly. Do the thumbs up, subscribe five stars. Yeah. Help us get caught by the algorithm a bit. But even if we don't, then hey, I think the two of us are still content to just sit here and.
01:02:47
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Talk about nonsense for an hour. Anyway, it's a good time. It's a great way to stay in shape. We'll see all of you next week for another edition of The Family Guys.