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Episode 23: Our Greatest Fears
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Today, Tyler and Kalab (swamp) discuss our greatest fears, covering the physical, emotional and psychological.
Good Morning, Gents! This is a podcast hosted by four Marine Corps veterans with the goal of uplifting men to be the best version of ourselves. In an age of high rates of suicide and depression, especially in the male population, we are taking a stand. This is a place that will cover all of the challenges and realities that we face in the current world, and how we can break down barriers to betterment for ourselves, our families, and the world.
A tragic suicide of our friend sparked an idea and experiment for us as we rekindled our friendship: A group text where we say "Good Morning" to each other every single day, and continue the conversation about what is going on in our lives, be there for one another, and spread positivity and reassurance. Men bear so much weight of responsibility in society that it is hard for men to have an outlet to express themselves. This has attributed to the vast number of suicides in the male population. We aim to cut those numbers down with this podcast. Between the discussions our hosts will talk about, and the guests we bring onto the show, we invite you to join us on this journey towards self-betterment for all.
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Return and Life Updates
00:00:08
Speaker
Good morning, gents.
00:00:13
Speaker
Good morning, gents. All right. You guys haven't heard my voice in quite a few weeks. This is Caleb, and I've got Tyler on with me. um And it's also been, what, three weeks since we posted an episode.
00:00:26
Speaker
Life is happening. um Four guys trying to de-conflict schedules. just Just been a struggle for us recently. All right, Tyler. How's it been going, man? Howdy guys.
00:00:38
Speaker
um It's been busy. ah Lots of work. Lots of trying to catch up on my own shit. um You know, just family shit. Stuff with the wife.
00:00:49
Speaker
Had a vacation. Trying to yeah get... How was your... How was your old trip? Our trip to London was really good. We had a good time, man. But since then, just getting back to it. and Yeah, it's really just been work, work, work, work. work And then...
00:01:05
Speaker
Just some stuff around the house. Just trying to pick up the pieces where, you know, you feel like you're behind on everything. So just trying to play catch up. Yeah, absolutely. I hear that, man.
00:01:16
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of in the same boat. We're adjusting life on this new schedule. And it's just long days. My off days are middle of the week. So it kind of changes how we how we do life as a family. And we're just trying to figure that out still.
00:01:29
Speaker
We did add a new puppy to the family today. Yeah. With you earlier. So that that'll be an interesting addition coming on here. Cute, chunky little girl.
00:01:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Chunky little chocolate lab. It'll be good to have another chocolate dog back in the house since our last one passed. Life's been pretty. Yeah, he's the best dog.
00:01:52
Speaker
But life's been pretty good. It just, like I said, schedule, schedule, schedule is our crutch right now. but i feel like I feel like since you started the new position, you've just been like beat to shit with the schedule.
00:02:04
Speaker
Yeah, man. it's ah It's long days, and the hard part is it's it's volatile, and it's not predictable always, right? How many yeah times have I texted you guys and been like, well, headed out to rescue a train in the middle of the night, like not going to help, or not going to jump on.
00:02:20
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yeah So it's ah it's it's ah not as structured as my last role. um But I will say my last role, right, I felt like I was twiddling my thumbs in a cubicle and not very purpose-driven, not very engaged, just kind of going through the motions.
00:02:37
Speaker
i do feel like I'm actually accomplishing something. So I'm feeling a little bit more fulfilled here in this role. Physically more worn worn down, but mentally and emotionally fulfilled.
00:02:48
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um I'm back to a people-leading position. I've got 35 people underneath me. Damn. Yeah, so it's ah it's been good. It's been good, actually, for my for my mental health as well. like it it's It's helped me to kind of fall back in a little bit more of a confident position there. Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:06
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But yeah, it's been good.
Exploring Fears
00:03:08
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Well, want to introduce the topic, which is fear. You know, we were kind of chatting politics a little bit here prior to the going live on the recording.
00:03:18
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And just life in general around around the world right now, there's tons of fear, whether it's physical fears or political fear, fear of um fear of war or fear of economics, fear of whatever it may be. There's tons of fears out there. So Tyler and I just thought, let's talk to some fears. Let's talk through how we deal with fears and, you know,
00:03:36
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What kind of fears we face in a daily life? What you for definition for us? Yeah. So usually it's either Mac or Brando who does the definition, but I got step up here.
00:03:46
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So we got an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain or a threat. Oh, man. All right.
00:03:57
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That last part gets me because it it makes it more of a, like it's an emotion in response to something physical, likely to cause pain or a threat. I guess emotional threat. Emotional counts too, yeah. Yeah, little threat.
00:04:08
Speaker
All right. Well, I think the easiest place to start here, because it's it's more lighthearted, would be yeah physical fears. That'd be a good, like, intro before we get deep into the the heavy stuff of yeah surrounding fears.
00:04:22
Speaker
Physical fears. I mean, and don't want to exploit you here, but you refuse to jump out of an airplane with us. Well, there's been a new revelation in this. I know there has.
00:04:33
Speaker
So I think our listeners should actually learn this. um So I've recently stumbled upon this thing. There's this organization that basically trains people, whether it's just normal civilians or veterans, whoever, ah there are like height and weight requirement requirements, but basically trains people to learn how to jump just like the paratroopers did in World War two using all of the equipment, the gear, the the planes, everything as it was from World War two
00:05:13
Speaker
And me growing up like idolizing the Band of Brothers. and like their experience and everything they went through like that. I always i always said the only way you're going to get me to jump out of a plane is if it's like going airborne like those guys.
00:05:32
Speaker
So when I found this like and there's like videos of them doing it and like going through the training and then like actually making the jumps and i'm like, i could get behind that. Like if I'm going to face a fear of like heights and like skydiving, like all that, like I would feel so much purpose in doing that. And like if I get to earn my wings, like making five jumps, dude, which you do as part of this class, like you do two weeks worth um of training, just like the World War Two paratroopers did.
00:06:02
Speaker
And you make your five jumps and you earn your wings like, dude. And I could just not even just earning the wings, but like that first jump. stepping out into the abyss and just facing my fear and like i know the first five seconds are going to be the most terrifying fucking thing in my life but when that parachute opens up and i'm just floating down like i know i would probably scream out enjoy like for doing that like just being a part of that and experiencing that like You know, it's so weird to me that I know a lot of people like from high school, different like girls and things like that who seem like chicken shits when it comes to so many different things in life. But they just openly will jump out of planes, like go skydiving and do all these weird things that like I feel like I would never do, you know?
00:06:53
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But people handle shit like that differently. I think a huge part of it for me is like, since I was a little kid, I've struggled with like motion sickness. And I hate being stuck in a situation that I feel like I can't get out of.
00:07:09
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So that's why like, since I was a little kid, like, I'm the worst person to bring to a fucking amusement park because you're not gonna have fun. If you're stuck with me, it's like my, my dad and brother would go on all the rides and my mom would be stuck fucking staying back with me.
00:07:23
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But just because I can't handle it, like I get so sick. So I've always just like said, like, fuck, no, i'm I'm never going to jump out of a plane because then if I'm falling and I'm fucking motion sick, like, what am I going to do? I'm just falling in that horrible hellscape like.
00:07:40
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Feeling sick like that same reason ever since I learned my lesson going out fucking deep sea fishing like never doing that fucking shit again Because that was hell on earth like I don't want to put myself in that position But I will do it if I get to do it like the airborne did in World War two and They're also not jumping like from that high up like it's actually pretty fucking low I know, man. that's what That's what makes it crazy to me. that that that'd be where you like like I'll do it if i do if it's this.
00:08:10
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One, it's it's it's pretty low altitude jumps. so like If things go awry, like less time to recover. but True. And then the other part that's weird for me on that whole situation for you, which I respect it because of I think it's just the cool as hell that they put this program on.
00:08:30
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But like I'm a firm believer believer that modern technology has ultimately made us safer. So to go back to World War II designed technology, like to go back to world war two designed That's fair.
00:08:44
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Makes me nervous. That's fair. But I mean, look at the statistics like they haven't lost their their instructors are so professional and they're they have this shit down to a science like, yeah you know, they haven't lost people doing this kind of thing like they they understand very well what they're doing and how to do it.
00:09:04
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and properly training people and that just the whole process is like very safe and as long as you're following what you were taught like you're pretty much good to go so i'm not really worried about it in that aspect um plus the the big thing for me is like when i
Fear of Nature and Adventures
00:09:21
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compare it to normal skydiving like i hate the idea of like falling for a pretty long time without even opening the show. Oh, man, see, I'm the opposite.
00:09:31
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i'd want the Halo jump. Yeah, yeah, fuck that, dude. jump, dude. i want I want the, the the longer the free fall, like, that would be amazing. I can't do that. High altitude level thing. I cannot fucking do that.
00:09:42
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But I like the idea of like, there's like five, maybe five seconds of you just like flying through the air, just like real quick fucking figuring shit out. By the time you even fucking realize what's going on the chute is open and you're like, get like preparing yourself to to fall and, you know, land where you're going to land.
00:10:03
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Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, honestly, like I, I'm scared to jump out of an airplane. Um, but as far as like those physical action fears, I mean, I'm, I would be lying if I'd say I don't get nerves and fear towards a lot of things, right? Like growing up in South Louisiana, I, I grew up learning to swim in chocolate bayous that had alligators everywhere. Right.
00:10:24
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Every time before you jump in the water, you you're nervous. Right. Cause you, there's shit in those rivers, in the bayous in Louisiana, right? Like, We've got alligators, alligator snapping turtles, alligator gar... Like, there's a lot of things that will fuck you up, right?
00:10:38
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But even with we roller coasters, like, you know, my youngest daughter, she... Or not my youngest, my oldest daughter, she likes to ride roller coasters. And even when we're in line getting ready to get a roller coaster, like, I get that fight-or-flight response. And, like, yeah man, this is... Like, do I want to do this? Like, this is kind of going be scary. Like, but I know...
00:10:57
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um kind of how i handle that that physical fear is like the reward is i know there's going to be enjoyment on the other yeah side so i just have to i just have to get it started right like i have to just take the first step is kind of my my way to combat that as far as physical fears i mean like i've got the normal like you know i've got the no fears of heights i get nervous when i'm on a tall ledge you know yeah cliff jumping in a lake i'm like oh this is kind of sketchy but i know that if i do it once like that shit's gonna be fun and then i'm gonna keep doing it right yeah that's kind of how i kind of how i attack that physical fear what about animal fears you got any weird animal fears like like my wife's like will not fuck looks at all
00:11:39
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I love snakes. I think snakes are awesome. I don't have any fear of snakes whatsoever. Like, I won't fuck with them, like, because I know how quick their reaction time is. And, like, you know...
00:11:50
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you you don't You don't know which snakes are poisonous. like You might have some clues based on like their color design or like things like that. but like I'm not going to go fucking with them, but I'm not afraid of them. um I got my six-year-old catching snakes.
00:12:02
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Nice, hell yeah. I have a partial fear of spiders. like yeah It's not really... a i don't know if it's a fear. like Because it's not all spiders. like I can't classify that as arachnophobia.
00:12:14
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i It's all spiders for me, bro. I will crush somebody's prized tarantula in fucking heartbeat. it's I so like, for example, tarantulas tarantulas are for the most part, you know, they're big and they're hairy, but they're slow.
00:12:29
Speaker
I hate those fast fucking moving spiders that just fucking. wolf spiders and like the you know the kinds that you find randomly in your house that fucking move at a million miles an hour scare the fuck out of you and they're huge um long leg span like those ones scare the fuck out of me but like little guys like or the really skinny fucking ones that are like i mean there's daddy long legs and then there's like the ones that just fucking hang in the corner of the room and they just fucking chill like i don't care about like they're fine by me like do their thing they're they're helping us out they're eating bugs um how spiders don't bother me it's the uh it's dude it's it's spiders of size that get
Firefighting and Safety Concerns
00:13:13
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me it's uh i held a tarantula once and holding a tarantula in my hand and feeling a spider that had weight to it yeah was the creepiest thing i'm like the fact
00:13:23
Speaker
The fact that you could feel the weight, right? Like most fighters, if it got on you, it's you don't feel it. wait It's a tickle. It's weightless. yeah Dude, when you hold a trenchant, like there's there's mass there. And you're like, i gotta try that. I gotta try it because I've never actually held I've held it.
00:13:38
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One of the Marines in the s four bra used to bring his trenchant. ah Brandon, he was supply guy. I think it was he was prior to you.
00:13:49
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And Sergeant Major came down and asked him, why the fuck does he have a spider on his desk? And he made Sergeant Major hold it. He was like, Sergeant Major. He like walked out of me, kept calling him like a chicken shit. Oh my God.
00:14:01
Speaker
It was Sergeant Major Chapman. It was the Sergeant Major before col before Collins. But yeah, he he got him to fucking hold it. But man, I held that. That's the spider. Dude, I can't do spiders. They just give me creepies.
00:14:14
Speaker
Yeah. As far as other animals, dude, I'm not really nervous. It's more or scared of them. It's more like abundance of caution, right? Like while I'm hunting, I've got a sidearm because I know there's mountain lions, right? It's not that I'm scared of mountain lion. Yeah, that's different.
00:14:27
Speaker
Like, going walk into the woods and get in my deer stand just the same, but, like, I'm aware, and I know they're there, and i'm I've got a plan to so fuck that. The only thing I'm fucking, like, afraid of as far as, like, an animal or a creature is fucking house.
00:14:42
Speaker
Oh, yeah, they're so gnarly. They are. So gnarly. Fuck them. I would take a spider over them any fucking day, dude. Those things i grew with that show up in the worst possible time.
00:14:53
Speaker
They're fucking disgusting. They have 10 trillion fucking legs and they're fast as fuck. And they will crawl up your ceiling, up your wall, fucking like anywhere. And they're not like a normalineipede normal centipede. Normal centipede just has like the little round legs.
00:15:06
Speaker
They've got those articulating legs. So it's yeah like spider legs on a fucking. It's. Oh, ah I fucking. I'm They're so disgusting. They creep me the fuck out. I hate them. Dude, I got a small tangent here. I've got ah one of those one of those bug assault rifles that shoots the salt.
00:15:23
Speaker
Oh, got to get that, dude. i've been wanting to get that for so long. Dude, they're only like 50 bucks. make ah Make a poor adult decision. I'm going to it. Because you could go around and fuck up the... it'll It'll take out a house sentencing, I promise you. Really?
00:15:37
Speaker
Yes. Fuck yeah. All right. So that's it animal kingdom, right? There's a lot of fears based around the animal kingdom. Mostly, you know, very I would predominantly say it's like two two big categories, spiders and snakes. So yeah that's that's where most people's fears come from.
00:15:54
Speaker
Any other physical fears that you can think of out there? Obviously, there's there's like fear falling. There's fear of heights. Drowning. Drowning is a big one. Drowning is a big one for people who don't grow around with water.
00:16:05
Speaker
That's a good point. So for me, losing oxygen in general, um whether it's drowning or like if fuck if I'm in a fucking fire, bro, my my damn job. right Like if I run out of air, I'm toast. And like my my biggest fear in my job is running out of air and like suffocating. know I fucking.
00:16:27
Speaker
Oh, that terrifies me. Honestly, I guess I never thought about that with firefighters. Like, that yeah that is fucking scary. Most people don't. You think of flames. You don't think of, like, you have an air tank on you, and you have 20 minutes, basically, to get in the building, do whatever you need to do, and then get out of the building.
00:16:46
Speaker
Yeah. Did you do Hero Dunker? Yes, I did. Yeah. It freaked me out a little bit, but... I didn't mean to cut you off. Keep going. No, it's okay. It's just I've always been terrified of running out of oxygen or suffocating asphyxiation.
00:17:01
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um i agree with that. Growing up as a kid, you ever wrestle and like or like mess around and like somebody gets a blanket over your head and you're like you have like a fucking rage out. like Oh, yeah. right like That or getting dunked in the fucking in the pool by my older brother. like Yeah, that that comes from a fear of that. That's that same asphyxiation, lacrimine, I think.
00:17:21
Speaker
And I think that's a very natural fear to have, right? Like it's it's our it's our life force. like yeah It's how we survive. We need to breathe. and That's very logical. like I really didn't think about that for firefighters. Like, I mean, you see them with oxygen tanks, but you don't think about like the burn actually depleting oxygen within a but the fire.
00:17:39
Speaker
And the thing is, so like based on your body composition, your physical, um like how fit you are, um so many different factors weigh in for how much air you consume.
00:17:54
Speaker
So there's guys like tall skin dudes that work with me. And they are just able to go through something like very physically intensive and not go through that much air.
00:18:06
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Me, even though I'm like physically fit, I fucking suck down air. So like I'm so much more conscious of it and like worried about it because I know that like I use up a lot.
00:18:18
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where someone else might use up less. And, you know, it it's just one of those things like, you know, every day when we come into shift in the morning, we we do our checks for our equipment that we're using for the day, whether it's our rigs, our our air tanks, you know, all that kind of stuff.
00:18:35
Speaker
So I always check my pack and I see. So you're supposed to make sure that it's full, obviously, um for whatever you're riding on. And it's supposed to be at least 4,500 PSI.
00:18:47
Speaker
And i always check to make sure my shit is at 4,500 PSI or a little bit past it because I want as much air as possible Just in case we have to go into a fucking building and I need to use it. Like I need as much air as possible.
00:19:05
Speaker
There's people who are just so lax on the job and like they don't even check their fucking air pack when like i would say eight times out of ten like they're not fully full the way they should be.
00:19:17
Speaker
I'm constantly swapping out bottles to to get the most full bottle and then just like filling up the the ones that aren't as full which like people just get lazy but like This is something that people should take more seriously. They just get too lax and complicit.
00:19:34
Speaker
And like, this is your life on the line, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Like people just don't take it as seriously as they should. Like check your shit in the morning and make sure that you're good for the day. Like know how much air you have in your damn tank. Like it's, I don't get why people don't like take that more seriously.
00:19:53
Speaker
I feel like that'd be a big one to... to it's It's complacency, dude. Yeah, it'd be the one thing I would probably check with you there the most. That that is your lifeline. The reason I brought up to the helodunker was that was my first experience of like breathing on all right. breathing on Yeah.
00:20:09
Speaker
And I didn't know what to expect. You you know, you do the whole side of the tank upside down thing with the octopus. But the first time on bottle from the helicopter drop... For our listeners out there, I know we've got ah a few that have probably experienced a helodunker. But a helodunker is like ah a fake fuselage of a helicopter that drop from a crane until and into a swimming pool.
00:20:29
Speaker
It rotates on two different axes, so it can come to rest at a weird angle. And you've got to basically egress the helicopter underwater. But anytime you go on a ship... that you're you're going to be using helicopters to get on and off, which a lot of Marines do. You have to get helodunker certified.
00:20:45
Speaker
So that's what I'm talking about. But that first run on bottle, dude, I remember I popped out out of the window. And by the time I popped out of the window, I went to draw in a breath and the bottle was empty. Because I... like you know that Just the rush and the fast breathing, i it's a two-minute bottle, but like I burned through it in 15, 20 seconds like you know just due to nerves.
00:21:04
Speaker
Yep. And trying to pull on an empty bottle had to be one of the most panic and setting oh yeah moments yeah of my life. like you know I'm 15 feet underwater, and like I go to take a breath in, and it's it's a hard wall.
00:21:18
Speaker
there' There's nothing there. So it was just like this fastest scurry to the surface that I could possibly do. Mm-hmm. So, like, i definitely I definitely get that fear. and and I understand it.
Fear of Flying and Open Ocean
00:21:28
Speaker
Like, it's it's something I don't think about because I don't deal with it on a daily basis. But now that you you talk to it, like, ah that's a very rare fear. Dude, and one of the things that we practice and, like, train with is we literally will...
00:21:40
Speaker
train on air to the point where we run out of air completely and the mask sucks your face and just so like when you have very little left in there you have this vibro alert going off so it's like this kind of like rattling humming sound coming from your your air tank basically the the electronics on on it So it's alerting you, letting you know how much you have left. but And then you reach a point where that viral alert stops.
00:22:10
Speaker
And then that's where you're like in oh shit mode. And then it's just a gradual running out of air to the point where it just, you literally get to the point where it sucks to your face. And you're like, there's there's literally no more.
00:22:23
Speaker
This is it. I can't breathe anymore. So now as a real life scenario, imagine like being in a burning building and you're trying to work your way out It's pitch black because of the fucking smoke.
00:22:35
Speaker
And you can't see a fucking thing. And all you can do is feel walls to try to make your way out. And you're running out of air. People don't think about this kind of shit. It's it's terrifying. It's fucking terrifying. that This is my fear of my job.
00:22:49
Speaker
That is my number one fear of my job. hundred percent 100%. And the problem is, you might be doing fine navigating a building. You might have a fucking taps. A wall might come down on you. A floor might come down on You might fall through a floor.
00:23:02
Speaker
and then you have to rely on other people to rescue if you if you can't get yourself up like and you're running out of air it's scary man it's scary it's it's something that if you're not in the or have it explained to you yeah you just don't think about that kind of thing part part of the part of the definitely appreciative for what you do thank you all right so so we did drowning or air in general just lack of oxygen Yeah. um Other physical things, right? Like, I guess, you know, you you fear those moments that you know are going to hurt um physically or like, should I hop on this e-scooter and try and jump the curb?
00:23:39
Speaker
You know what i mean? Like, it's like, I wouldn't, I don't know if I'd call that a fear though. But, but I, yeah, they don't really check into my brain. Like, like I know the potential risk, but like, I don't, I don't weigh it as a fear, I guess.
00:23:53
Speaker
Yeah. Hmm. I would say for me, like the the physical side of growing old, aging. See, I feel that's more of an emotional thing. That's definitely a part of it.
00:24:04
Speaker
Yeah. It's kind of both. Yeah, it's like a physical act. It's the physical change, but emotionally at where. Right. I don't know, man. As I've gotten older, I've gotten a little bit more of a fear of like driving.
00:24:18
Speaker
In what way? I've just seen more gnarly wrecks. I've seen more reckless drivers. And now like I'm more fearful of other drivers. So like, you know, I'll drive my way. But if I see somebody driving a bit erratically, I like I make sure I space myself out. like Oh, yeah.
00:24:33
Speaker
like I distance and it's... I'm more fearful of like other people to endure some sort of shit. Totally. I just... I don't... The way I look at it is I don't trust anybody on the road. I like the fact that I'm sort of in control of my destiny when like... Not...
00:24:49
Speaker
in the sense like you can stop other people from whether it's hitting you or just random shit happening to you on the road but you're at least behind your own right so like i have a fear of being on an airplane and like you're in a seat and you are just a fucking you are helpless to whatever situation you're in you cannot do anything to change the outcome at least when you're driving you have some sort of agency in that, you know? Yeah, no, I agree.
00:25:18
Speaker
So flying, flying for me is terrifying. we We've already talked about that. We have. We have. On a couple of episodes, dude, fear airplanes.
00:25:28
Speaker
And I think that stems back to just our time in the service, like aircraft in general has. Even since then, just like, has has scarred the shit out of me and then you see all the so much lately yeah planes yeah i'm with you i'm i'm with you it's not like i can rush the cockpit and tell the dude like get the fuck out of the way so i can land exactly yeah like you just you're you're helpless you're fucking helpless And hope he makes a decision that's devastating. Yeah.
00:25:53
Speaker
Physical, i would also say open ocean. I don't know, man. i i don't I don't... Are you saying just floating in an open open ocean or like being in a boat? Floating in the open ocean, you, your body in the water, and all whatever the fuck is in the ocean is under Whether it's a shark or who knows what.
00:26:13
Speaker
You're not, like, shipwrecked or you're not just, like, lost in the ocean. We're talking just swimming. i don't even I don't even care if a boat is there or not. I have a fear of swimming in the open ocean. not So, like, I'm not talking about if I'm on a beach and I'm just, like, you know, 10 feet out. No, no, I know what you're talking about. I'm talking about being in the middle of the fucking ocean and you swimming and just anything could be under you, whether it's a fucking great white shark or who knows what, like...
00:26:41
Speaker
I don't We were, we were, I was, I was like 16 or 17 and went on a deep sea trip out of Louisiana. We went way out to the Gulf and catching tuna, yellowfin tuna.
00:26:53
Speaker
Still today, one of the biggest fish i've ever caught. I caught like this, like 175 pound Jesus Christ. We all, Right. We all caught our limit. So like the guide was like, hey, let's let's make a run in and we're going to catch this other fish.
00:27:06
Speaker
And before he was like, actually, you guys want to swim. And we're in like eighteen hundred feet of fucking water. And he hands us goggles and he's got he rips out this like dollar general package of like diving toys.
00:27:20
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And so, like, we all jump in, we know the depth, and he just starts dropping them. And being in the water with goggles and watching these things fucking fall for hundreds of feet and then disappear, I don't know, I just had a great fucking time. Like, I actually enjoyed the shit out of It just, I felt like, and don't know, felt like in a weird way, like, putting life into perspective for a 16-year-old. Like, there's so much bigger shit than just, like, you know, your your girlfriend or, you know, gas money or drinking beer and stuff.
00:27:48
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it was is It was just a cool experience. And like i I guess I don't really fear that open ocean swim. like i'm I fear that, i fear that like oh man, the ship went down. Now I'm floating out here in the middle and hoping for a plane to find me. like That would be scary.
00:28:03
Speaker
But and don't I don't fear the open ocean. Ever since... What about the woods? Alright, so I don't necessarily fear the woods or like being in the woods, but I will say in certain instance yeah sorry instances, the woods can be insanely creepy.
00:28:20
Speaker
Yes. um Just the horror stories. Deer season walking in alone and knowing that there's potential for other people being there that have malicious intent. Yes. Terrifies me.
00:28:32
Speaker
Yeah. So I've only ever gone in the woods um for hunting purposes ah with somebody. So I haven't felt that like... Yeah.
00:28:43
Speaker
guns i'm kind of like in a good mindset like i'm okay because i have something to defend myself but if you're in a vulnerable position and the fucking horror stories i've heard and see online about like For instance, the fucking apple it Appalachian Mountains, fucking the shit that people hear and see.
00:29:04
Speaker
And the residents there just know, like, to ignore if you hear your name, if you hear whistling, um certain things. Like, that shit scares me. Some creepy ass shit.
00:29:16
Speaker
Also... You know what messed me up? What? Blair Witch Project, dude. Oh, yeah. Blair Witch Project. Yeah. walked me I mean, it's it's a terrible movie, but it's still like that whole idea of things hunting you in the woods.
00:29:29
Speaker
And it's just this. It's fucking. Yeah. um National parks and apparent cult cults like activity. Yeah, I agree with that, dude. National parks, if you're solo hiking national parks, especially in like dawn and dusk situations, it's arguably one of the most terrifying oh yeah things for me.
00:29:50
Speaker
And it's not because of like the a bear or a mountain lion or being alone. It's fucking it's the people. It's the people. It's the bad actors that could potentially, you know, change your life.
00:30:02
Speaker
It's terrifying. Dude, it's fucking, you know. Serial killers are a thing. There are sick people out there. And if you look at the missing persons, like there's thousands and thousands of missing people.
00:30:15
Speaker
And very easily could you sign in a situation in the world. You are vulnerable. Yeah. I'm with you. And like, think about like national forest during hunting season.
00:30:26
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That's basically a target rich environment for an individual who wants to do something bad like that. Yes. They can get away with it. It makes me even more cautious during that time because I know, right. If I was that person, like I know there's an abundance of people I could select from at that given. So yeah, man.
00:30:43
Speaker
Um, weird tangent on physical fears, um, more so now. And it's, I guess it's a modern threat and political threat. Um, active shooters, dude.
00:30:53
Speaker
Oh yeah. So shooters is, is, is, what is a big one for me. Like at this point my life, like, right. I, I carry most everywhere I go. And I start like if we're going to a large event, obviously I can't carry into concerts or football because there's there's things that prevent that. But like outdoor concerts or large parades or stuff like that, like I start making a plan to get the family off the X. Yeah. If shit went down, like that's my first.
00:31:17
Speaker
My so I I don't carry as often as I should or would like to. it It's kind of very limited with New York and the fucking dumbass laws we have.
00:31:27
Speaker
yeah um But so this past week, um there was a active shooter at a church kentucky in the same town where two of my friends from Queens live.
00:31:39
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And both of them are very religious people. Their families are religious. And I was terrified thinking like, there's four dead, more wounded. Like, could it be them?
00:31:50
Speaker
And thank God it wasn't. um But even my friend is like, yeah, like, I feel like I can't even go to church and not carry my gun now. Like. Yeah. So Nebraska and Louisiana are the only two states that require pastoral approval to carry with the church.
00:32:07
Speaker
So most churches in Nebraska, like my church, you have to be vetted through the church before you're to carry. so like we've got a security team. I think you guys have heard me talk about that. Like I work the security team at church, but like we've got a pretty robust plan, but it's just crazy that we've come to that point in society that. Yeah.
00:32:23
Speaker
were're We have to have security church. But just in general, man, like think thinking about situations like that, like scares the shit out of you because you find yourself in more target rich environments than you would ever think about like a decade ago.
00:32:38
Speaker
And you're like, and you're like, man, somebody wanted to do something bad right now. Like, here's a great time. Yep. I think about it constantly. Like, we're, how often are we putting ourselves in a position where, like, we are bottlenecked, just fish in a barrel, like, fucking stuck in a situation that it's very hard to get out of, and you're boxed in with a bunch of people, especially people who are not trained like you and won't know how to react, or what to do, and it's just going to be fucking chaos.
00:33:09
Speaker
Like, i know i know a few girls who went to the fucking Vegas concert when the fucking shooting happened there. And, God, it's just like, how many people know somebody who's been in some sort of active shooter situation now? It's crazy.
00:33:25
Speaker
It doesn't even have to be shoot, man. look at Look at New Orleans, the the Bourbon Street attack on New Year's Eve. and That shit was a pickup truck, dude. That's great. like yeah Yeah. Even those kinds of situations. like You've seen a couple of parades now where a dude just mows down people in a car. Yeah.
00:33:41
Speaker
It happens quite often in Europe ah you know where guns are not as accessible as the States, but machete attacks, yeah vehicle vehicles running it through... that's ah that's ah That's a ah more recent fear.
00:33:55
Speaker
And I don't know if it's based off of maturity or or just more instances that have occurred and in recent time, maybe a
Personal Fears and Life Reflections
00:34:02
Speaker
combination of both. But like you know through my mid-20s, I had never even think about that shit.
00:34:07
Speaker
Yeah. And like, look, you're a dad. I'm not yet a father. But and my whole mindset is whenever I do bring up kids in this world, like my number one goal will obviously be to keep them safe. And like, I'm going to train them from a very fucking to be prepared to handle whatever situation.
00:34:26
Speaker
kind of crazy situations life's going throw at them like just raising a kid in this generation is insane but this is one of the things like i think parents need to work on their kids with is like get like get them in the mindset that like to keep their fucking head on a swivel and be prepared for these kind of crazy situations like it it can save their life yeah Absolutely. Situational awareness and having plan.
00:34:48
Speaker
Yep. But you don't, you don't have to, you don't have to try and stop the aggressor. You don't have to try. yeah you so it's survival is Yeah. tactics. It's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not about being a hero. It's getting off the X safely. Yes. like That's, that's, that's the, but yeah, those, those are some pretty good physical fears. Yeah. Got some good ones.
00:35:06
Speaker
yeah Got little, got little deeper than I thought we would get in physical fears there. All right. do you think? Some emotional fears? Yeah. Yeah. So for me, um God, just as me, myself as a person, um I don't I don't know if I consider myself a perfectionist, but I definitely consider myself like somebody who I'm so worried about rejection and failure.
00:35:31
Speaker
Like, I don't want to let people down or myself down. And whether it's my job where, you know, people's lives are on the line it's an important job um or my family or me like not achieving what i set out to do um not accomplishing a task that i wanted or a goal in life like i am terrified of failure not in the sense that like i i understand that failure can sometimes be a very good thing to like help build us up and that kind of shit but like
00:36:06
Speaker
if If I truly feel like I have failed in a way that like I can't overcome it or i am letting people down or myself, that tears me up.
00:36:18
Speaker
that tears me up Yeah. Failure is good, but I think the the level of failure, there's failure that you learn from, and then there's failure. Emotion is hard. Yeah. I'm with you that I i feel failure.
00:36:30
Speaker
Two greatest emotional fears outside of outside of like losing my kids. yeah I think fear of rejection stems from like fear of being a left, right? kind of cast To me, that's probably my hardest one.
00:36:45
Speaker
The fear of failure is not as big as the fear of rejection. I've overcome some hard things, so like perseverance has set my grit in ways. yeah so And I'm also, and you guys know, man of faith, so like the fear of failure, I know, I believe I've got somebody for me. There's a plan. There's a grand plan. Yeah.
00:37:03
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. The fear of rejection, even being a man, I still fear being a, so that, that fear of rejection, not having, you know, to me, that's terrible person. So like the fear of being accepted is a ego check for, so, you know, ego blow it diminishing it fucking rabbit holes in his whole pit of despair. So, yeah,
00:37:28
Speaker
Fear rejection is a big one. It's, it's super deep for me. I get that. What other emotion? There's fears of losing loved ones. I mean, we can get to that. I'm, a you know, I mentioned my kids, like I fear losing my kids.
00:37:41
Speaker
I fear losing all family members and friends. I do. Yeah. I will say like I handle loss differently than most. And I think we've talked to them. Right. I'm also a person, but I haven't lost a kid.
00:37:53
Speaker
Yeah. And I don't think I, I don't know what that would look like. And I don't even realize it. So like, I'm not even trying to talk to fear of a lot people losing. ones Oh yeah. What about fear? What about fear of death? do you Do you ever have like existential crisis where you're like, I used to have them all often like, Oh, like really fucking, but I don't, I don't, I don't go down that rabbit hole too often anyway.
00:38:15
Speaker
Ever since, I would say probably about 2015 when I had the heat stroke, a have really grown a fear of death. And you know, I think back to when I was like an Afghan as a 19 year old kid, like I felt invincible.
00:38:29
Speaker
didn't, worry too much about death or like, you know, fucking all this shit that can happen to me, like all those anxieties, like, I was just rolling through life. And ever since I've started, but I've started to feel my age, like physically, mentally, I've been through more traumatic experiences.
00:38:47
Speaker
i Really do fear death and just fear like the unknown and what's on the other side. And I feel like with time just flying by, absolutely flying by, like I just feel this ticking time bomb where we're going to lose everyone we love.
00:39:08
Speaker
And we're going to suddenly be this old wrinkly person and then just wither away ourselves. And like, we don't know what happens to us. We don't like, yeah, you might have faith like that. Oh, you know, I believe in heaven and all this stuff. for like, I'm, I'm terrified of an, of a endless black, like, like what if, you know, like we don't know.
00:39:30
Speaker
We don't, we don't truly know. We have faith, but yeah that's faith. That's what faith is. Like I have a belief that, there is something on the other side. we We just don't know for sure.
00:39:41
Speaker
So it's like, yeah, there's there's no, there's no science behind it. There's no, yeah, it's pure faith. It's a, it's a personal belief. Yep. Nope. I'm with you. um And um I definitely get that.
00:39:53
Speaker
I think as far as like, I've realized with my filmmaking, a lot of my films and writing has to do with death. And I think it's because I'm trying to rationalize it for myself.
00:40:05
Speaker
I I've noticed like with different filmmakers who I've studied, like, Spielberg, for example, Spielberg had a rough time having a relationship with his father growing up.
00:40:15
Speaker
And a lot of his movies focus on his like relationships between a character and their father, because like he's trying to like emotionally work through what he went through.
00:40:26
Speaker
So all of his films have to do with like family and that whole thing. So for me, my filmmaking and writing is really coming to terms with death.
00:40:38
Speaker
Yeah. It's interesting. You know, i it is interesting. It is interesting. I think since turning to faith, I don't go down that endless black because I've i've definitely had that. like What if it's just nothing? Like, oh my God. man. sit there laying in bed for two hours like it's what if it's just black yeah man So I've definitely gone down in those rabbit holes in the past. And like I said, I don't do it. I don't not nowhere near the level what I i used to.
00:41:08
Speaker
One thing you did say that did spark like, a yeah, I do that shit all the time is ah the ticking time bomb, dude. I don't fear getting old and being a ah silver fox. Like i I look forward to my my golden years and and being, ah you know,
00:41:23
Speaker
being a cool grandpa and like doing cool shit as a retired person. I fear, i fear not doing, not having time to do the work now. Yeah. For my kids, for my future, not, not having the time to accomplish things that I need to accomplish now.
00:41:39
Speaker
um Because you're right, it, I was an invincible 18 to, you know, 27-year-old, and time actually just kind of slowly trickled by. But then I hit 30, and now turn 35 this year. Like, I was just fucking 30.
00:41:54
Speaker
thirty Like, what happened? Exactly. Like, what the fuck just happened? Like... yeah And and it's it feels like it's speeding up at this point. And that fear of not having enough time to accomplish the shit that I i believe I need. Yes.
00:42:10
Speaker
That's scary to me. 100%. I agree. it's ah It's one of those, if I don't get this done, will I be? Will my kids Yep. Or it's like, it's another fear parallels. it is I fear, am I where I should be?
00:42:24
Speaker
Right? Timeline, pace-like. Right. Right. in my behind right where i need to be to me that all gets worked up and behind i should have all this done yeah i feel like i sometimes get that feeling but you know it's hard not to compare with other people and yeah you know there are sometimes people who like we get a little envious of as far as like where they're at in life but i feel like dude for where we're at like our age like We're in a pretty good fucking spot compared to a lot of people I know.
00:42:55
Speaker
Yeah. Like we're homeowners. You have a family. We're married. Like, yeah, we we've hit a lot of life check of the boxes that like a lot of people our age haven't. So I feel like pretty good as far as that.
00:43:09
Speaker
But totally, i feel the fear of like needing more time and just do I you know, we have this one single fucking life. And I'm there's certain things that I want to accomplish in life.
00:43:21
Speaker
And am am I doing it like I need to I need to become this this filmmaker of purpose and get my award winning films out and not. for like recognition but just like for personal achievement you know like i want i want to win an oscar and direct it because that's just like what i as a little kid set out to do like that's my dream if i don't reach that goal i won't feel accomplished that's just my personally that my personal thing like my childhood dream that i want to achieve like i i need to do it you know
00:43:57
Speaker
Yeah, yeah that ah that whole keeping up with the Joneses, where we're at, I don't disagree. I think it's hard to some sometimes put into perspective the position in and look ahead, right? like I think it's good to let because it motivates you.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yeah. It's hard to always compare to those like, oh, I'm in a good position compared to they the other four. Because honestly, that sometimes that gets better. Totally, yeah. um Yeah, dude, emotional fears are like, they're existential. I would say they're bigger than physical.
00:44:26
Speaker
Yeah, and they're they're compounding, right? Like, like the the fear of death is not just the the emptiness of a potential emptiness could be there, but it's also like the life not fulfilled. Like, there's like 14 different layers to like. There's a lot of layers, man.
00:44:42
Speaker
Yeah. You could break down. emotional feels or fears are do you have any any i kind of talked to how i overcome physical stand you know that first leap's gonna suck but then one through at a time or yeah um do you have anything that you do help over personal fears like like put things into perspective or anything to like bring you out of that well because i that that's what it is right like once you get wrapped up in a fear dude it's a oh yeah honestly until how do you get it's It's taking control of your life, and you just you have to be willing to face that fear head on and just going for it anyway.
00:45:20
Speaker
Because if we let our fears control us, we would never get anywhere. Whether that's physically, emotionally, like... Think of those guys on the C-47s jumping on D-Day. Like, if they didn't fucking jump out of the plane, what are they going to do?
00:45:33
Speaker
They're either going to get shot down or Yeah, that's what i'm saying. Like, they saved the fucking world. And I'm sure they were just as fucking terrified as we could imagine we would be.
00:45:43
Speaker
And they they faced that fear because they had to. And everyone's afraid, whether it doesn't matter what you're going through, like people are afraid for emotional fears or physical fears. And it's all about how you handle that.
00:46:00
Speaker
It's natural to feel fear. But what are you going to do to overcome it? You have to push through and maximize your opportunity to get what you want or need done.
00:46:12
Speaker
Do you ever, or do do do you see a pattern or is there a time where fears creep in? For me, it's like periods of downtime, lulls in busyness, right? During busy times, like there's no time.
00:46:25
Speaker
So, but like, you know, I know for a fact when work slow for, I found opportunity to to entertain those fears and let them soak.
00:46:36
Speaker
yeah and kind of kind of build so like it's you know that's i know for a fact i don't the place where it manifests more yeah because it gives me time to entertain them right um but is there any other time you you have that possibly like anniversary events um that you know fears that you've noticed that's a that's a good point with anniversaries i never really thought about that but like yeah i As far as like the fear of death or, you know, getting older, i look at like how long it's been since so-and-so happened, whether it's my Afghan deployment, um getting out of the the military, ah graduating high school, ah you know, who knows what, whatever, whatever the case is, like just looking back at how quickly time has gone by, like it just feels like everything's flown by and just feels like in an instant,
00:47:29
Speaker
We're going to be those old geezers like looking back and wondering where the fuck time went. And I'm just terrified of like letting time slip by and the good times going by with it and not realizing it.
00:47:42
Speaker
So really just like wanting to maximize every opportunity of every single day and not wasting it. um Yeah, that's probably the biggest one for honestly. I had a ah new fear pop and it was an emotional, it was emotional reaction and spurned on rejection, except in fear of what would, but you guys remember I had a suicide. yeah Yeah.
00:48:06
Speaker
the next day, man, I was listening Zach Bryan's pink sky. That's a, and I went down this, just, it was proximity to that fear of what my life passed away. Would he be proud? you think I'm a good dad?
00:48:17
Speaker
Would he be proud of the work? Proud of the life? You know, what would he think? Yeah. It was like a, it wasn't me. I mean, it was me missing him, but it was also like me fearful of what threw thick he wouldn't be out of.
00:48:29
Speaker
And I feel like done. So like, it was a, it was a weird, it was one, it was, it was one of my first kind of fear invoking, emotion invoking, triggering events in a very long time. And it kind of took me aback. Dude, I was driving and teary eyed up and kind of cried. Yeah.
00:48:44
Speaker
obviously haven't lost a parent. And I hope it's a long time until I do. And I'm terrified of that prospect, how hard that's going to be. um My wife has lost her father. And I think everybody goes through that of like, am I, am I doing, am I being all I can be to make them proud?
00:49:01
Speaker
yeah I think, you know, I hate to bring up like comparing yourself to other people, but like, You have to think, yeah, they would be proud of me because I have a great job. I have a family. I'm being the best father I can be.
00:49:15
Speaker
Like, I'm doing so many good things that there's so many people who are just fucking terrible people. And they don't care. the The fact that you care in general and are worried about, like, what they would think says all you really need to know is, like,
00:49:32
Speaker
I care about what my impact is on this world and the people in it. And knowing that I would be making someone I love proud of how hard I work at doing all the things that I need to do.
00:49:45
Speaker
So that's your answer right there. It's just you giving a fuck. Like, you know that you're at you're you're doing the right
Facing Fears: Control and Conspiracies
00:49:52
Speaker
thing. Well, appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate It was just, it was just one of those things that it I haven't had in a trigger, a self doubt or a fear because self doubt is fear. Right. Like that, that, that is like, it's, it's a fear.
00:50:03
Speaker
Yeah. Um, in a long, all right. What else we want to wrap up on fears? Hmm. Gotta face them. Yeah. Is there any, is there any like crazy? Oh man. That we haven't touched on. That would be a good one.
00:50:16
Speaker
Let's, uh, um want ah I'm going to reference the Google machine here. I don't think i have any crazy fears. um are we Now, when you're talking about it, are you talking about, like, when Maury brought out the girl who was, like, deathly afraid of fucking pickles?
00:50:32
Speaker
Yeah. All right. I didn't know if, like, you wanted to go down that rabbit hole or, like, talking about psychological shit that, like, Whether it's government conspiracy they're like or aliens or fucking... but Those are both kind of lighthearted, so let let's touch them let's let's touch em both buts Let's start with the first one, the crazy psychological fucking aliens and conspiracies.
00:50:56
Speaker
um I mean, sometimes sometimes I absolutely fear that there is not the not the deep state, but that there is literally a fucking new world that makes a decision for their world. Yeah.
00:51:09
Speaker
Like, you know, that I fear this isn't along those lines, but it is. I fear that there actors in place that are going to send us back and stay 100 years, right? Like we are going to die.
00:51:21
Speaker
That is a giant fear of the future for my kids in the direction trying. Oh, yeah. I don't fear like lizard people. um I don't fear aliens.
00:51:35
Speaker
ah I believe there's aliens. um Even being a man of faith, I do believe there's statistically... Oh, yeah. Mathematically, it's almost... A certainty. mathematically it's almost ah certain a certain like it's that there's there's other life just due to vastness and opportunity to to have um man conspiracy sometimes i fear like how legitimate the matrix could be yes that's what i'm talking or yeah or or fear like what was that movie with um fucking what uh bruce uh jim carrey where he was in the fucking the carrey show the carrey show yes yes dude sometimes i'm like is it is it a fucking sim like where are we at right
00:52:19
Speaker
Oh, I'm sorry. It's the Truman Show. I don't know why. Truman Show. It's the Truman Show. The Drew Carey Show is good, though. Yes. The Truman Show, dude, opened up a whole fucking mindset for me. Oh, my God. This is terrifying.
00:52:34
Speaker
Between that and the Matrix of just like, God, how do we not? but There's no way to know if like all of this is just fucking fake. Yeah, brother. yeah but I'm with you. And now that like technology is getting crazier with AI, like I'm really terrified of like what route that's going to take, whether it's Terminator or...
00:52:55
Speaker
Just the point where we can't tell what's real and what's not. Like, oh you can't... Oh, I definitely fear AI from a yeah oh ah bad state actor like kind of thing. like The massive amount of disinforment can come from the use of AI.
00:53:08
Speaker
One of the most terrifying things. Just the fact that we won't be able to know what is real and what's not. the That we will be forever in doubt of knowing the truth.
00:53:20
Speaker
Like, you can't trust your own eyes and your ears and your sense, your basic senses. because everything can be manufactured Like, that's terrifying. I 100% agree.
00:53:30
Speaker
I 100% agree. it's It's gotten out of hand. I like the language models, but audio and visual generators. Yes. and you you And you know that the government is going to use it. Well, here here's here's like anything that's released.
00:53:47
Speaker
Whatever's behind the scenes is 10 times. So just conceptualize that. It's so scary. Yeah, I know. It's terrifying. Yeah. ah Whatever. What other weird fears? you Fear anything like superstitious?
00:54:01
Speaker
um I wouldn't say I'm overly superstitious, but... What about to cryptoid? Cryptoid? Like Bigfoot, Mossman, Lockgast, Lockgast. yes like cryptozoologists?
00:54:13
Speaker
Yeah. Who study mythical creatures? Yeah. it Any... You believe in, you know, fucking wood gnomes or you fear any you sort of fucking... I believe that the Loch Ness monster is...
00:54:24
Speaker
Really? Okay. Because think about it. It's reasonable. It's not something crazy. It's not a mythical creature, really. It's a dinosaur that could have just survived and bred, and it's in a vast fucking...
00:54:37
Speaker
piece of water and it stays deep down doesn't go to the surface often like it's very possible that a dinosaur survived the fucking extinction event and is still here in some form just like fucking mammals existed and they fucking were the ones to basically evolve and go from that to now you know Yeah.
00:54:59
Speaker
Bigfoot? Maybe. Mine is Bigfoot, man. Mine is Bigfoot. Maybe. my deal is My deal is what Bigfoot is. And I know the argument. At some point, we should have found some sort of remain substantial. But you've got similar stories across for hundreds
Belief in the Paranormal
00:55:16
Speaker
of years. Yeah. Why is that? It has to be...
00:55:18
Speaker
there has to be some legitimacy there, right? Like you, you had civilizations that were literally disconnected and and never had any sort of communication, you know, depicting the same animal.
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah. ah was So like, there's gotta be other than that. I don't, I don't fear that though. I don't know. I don't, I I'm intrigued by that kind of shit. Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:42
Speaker
Mainly just ghosts, though. I am so into the paranormal and trying to understand what, because that's part, ah I would say that's part of death, right? it's It's understanding a part of of death and what can happen to people.
00:55:55
Speaker
I think that spirit, like, I believe that our energy is here long after we're gone in some aspect. And depending on what happened with our death, I feel like that energy can get trapped.
00:56:11
Speaker
And I don't know, like them trying to release that trauma of whatever happened. I don't know. It's very confusing. But you look at what most people consider to be ghosts and you say like, oh, this person suffered some horrible fucking accident or was murdered or you know, it's always something like gruesome.
00:56:31
Speaker
Usually you might have had somebody like pass in their sleep or like an old person, but usually I would say usually it's a traumatic death. Yeah, I've had a couple dabbles with what I believe were paranormal.
00:56:44
Speaker
It makes me fearful that something in trolls. Yes. I hate that idea, too. um Same reason I don't like in the fucking firehouse basement. Um... Because people fucking treat it as a joke there and they don't like to be, but I've learned a shadow person, my friend.
00:57:01
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It's a fucking thing. People don't believe me. Well, like don't get into it. Don't get into we're good For our listeners, we're going to do a paranormal experience episode. Yes. Anything we've had.
00:57:12
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We need a table that. Well... no I'm trying for next episode to get our special guest on that I've been working on. Oh, yeah. we got We got a guy who does basically military-themed experiences that he collects from others.
00:57:28
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they They give him their story, and he shares it, and he's now done two books about it. ah It's called tails Tales from the Grid Square, and he he's done Volumes 1 and 2, a published book.
00:57:39
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um Oh, man. I'm sure there's so many. They do an Instagram account. that you can follow. And he basically just posts the stories that people submit to him every day. bet there's stories from Piney Green Gate over on... 100%. There's ones from all over the fucking military, different bases. um And it's really i've interesting. I've heard so many stories from Piney Green.
00:57:59
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Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it's really fun to read. it's very fucking like what people... But we're going to get him on as a guest... And we're going to talk all things paranormal. So I'm really fucking excited. Yeah, that'll be fun. yeah Let's circle back.
00:58:13
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What other we did paranormal weird stuff. The dumb shit. The crazy ones. Yeah, dumb shit. I mean, I don't have any. I don't have any. But I do. i It always brings me back to that fucking Maury episode with the lady who's afraid of fucking piss.
00:58:28
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And Maury's like, bring out the pickles. And she's like, nah!
00:58:33
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Have you seen it? No. No, I'm sure it's on YouTube. I'm sending it to you All right. Phobias. And phobias is what... There's so many... A lot of irrational ones.
00:58:43
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Yeah. There's a fear of mirrors. What are you, a vampire? A fear of sound. Fear of peanut butter sticking to the roof of your mouth. There's a fear of clothing. My lord.
Overcoming Fears and NFL Predictions
00:58:53
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my god. Could you imagine?
00:58:55
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Oh, I'm sorry. This fucking video... She's afraid of olives. Hmm. Think about how crippling it would be to have that seem so much to us. Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. I think being able to overcome fears is an amazing act.
00:59:07
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It's one strength deying defining, right? like Like, don't get me wrong. Like, grit grit is there. But the grit to overcome adversity, you're already in it. That's just strength getting through. But being able to overcome a fear, overcome something that in the way of acting. Like, yep overcoming it, you're you're in the city. there yeah be Overcoming a fear, you have to make it you have to mentally make a decision.
00:59:29
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Yeah, I feel like that's one of the biggest measures of a person. Yeah, I'd agree. Like when I when I am looking at somebody like that is one of the defining aspects of like my respect level.
00:59:42
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Like what have they overcome? And what fears have they? you know yeah i think we pretty much wrapped it. Yeah, dude, I think we're good. one so Do you have a corky comes out? as It's been a while.
00:59:52
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I do, and I do. And it's it's ah it's not that quirky, but it's a closeout that I think me and you can dabble. All right. The too soon prediction of league MVP for who you got.
01:00:04
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Lamar get it. I was just thinking about Lamar, but I don't know. Does Lamar get his first Super Bowl? Does Josh Allen get it? No way. Does Josh Allen get his first Super Bowl?
01:00:16
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Does Jared Goff light it the fuck up and get a Super Bowl? I'll tell you my opinion, and it's it's Joe Burrow. Yeah, i I have faith in Joe Burrow. I don't have faith in Joe Burrow's team.
01:00:27
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I think his team is going to blow his chance. I have faith in Joe Burrow's offense. I don't have faith in Joe Burrow's defense. yeah The Bengals have the means to outscore anybody in the league. Most of their wins come from by just putting up more points than the other person, not by stopping Well, it's the same way it was with the Saints, like most of Drew Brees' time.
01:00:48
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but Yeah, we we won by just prolific um You had to outscore just purely worrying about blowing up the scoreboard because you know that you're... Early prediction of MVP. All right, you got Joe Burrow.
01:01:00
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um Fuck me. Who won it last year? was Josh, right? Yeah. Yeah. um Fuck it. I'm going to go with Lamar. i don't I don't think... A three-timer? I don't think they're going to... Yeah.
01:01:12
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Oh, man. I don't think they're going to win the Super Bowl, though. I think he's probably going to be fucking one and done because for whatever reason, the fucking Ravens do well in the playoffs. What do you mean one and done? He doesn't have a Super Bowl.
01:01:22
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That's what I'm saying. I'm saying like playoff games, like getting in and then just instantly getting kicked. Dude, i've hit up I've hit a point in my NFL watching that I have so many teams and players i want to win a Super Bowl because like they're good and I like them that I can't choose.
01:01:38
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I know my team is not in position to make a run, but like I like Josh. I want him to win a Super bowl Right. yeah I like I like Lamar. I want him to win a Super Bowl.
01:01:49
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I like Joe Burrow. I like everything about Detroit. I want Dan Campbell. Yeah. fucking sweet mean so Yeah, dude. it You know, in it. I don't know who to choose. And like, like I want them all to get one.
01:02:01
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Well, they can't all play at this level for the next six years. So like, yeah they're not all going to get one. Yeah. I'd be happy with the Lions. Yeah. I like Baker Mayfield.
01:02:12
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He's been fucking discounted and discredited due to... fucking the Browns and every other coaching course I've always been on. He goes to Tampa and lights it up. Like I would love to see him fucking slap a big fuck you Super Bowl out there. I wouldn't just because fuck the Bucs.
01:02:26
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It's our division. Yeah, it's a South thing, but let's be honest. We're not winning the South. Just like I can't root for the Falcons. Fuck them. I hate that Kirk Cousins went there because I like Kirk.
01:02:37
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um Yeah, I don't mind Kurt, but fuck the Falcons. It's so hard. I'm so conflicted when I watch the Falcons. I'm like, let's go Kurt, but fuck you, Atlanta. All right, so you're going Lamar.
01:02:49
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Yeah. That was a tough one. That was honestly a tough one. Yeah. Well, figured you'd entertain a little bit better. Oh, yeah. do Yeah, yeah, definitely. We know who McDonald would. Let's let's just toss that out there.
01:03:02
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I'm going with the boy my boy Mahomes. Mahomes. the Hi guys, I'm Pat McHurves.
01:03:11
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That was good. book Yeah, man. We're going get... Dude, I once went to a Saints game. um God, I don't... I think it was like 28... It might have been Saints at Titans.
01:03:23
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And I flew to Tennessee. And it was the game that Michael Thomas broke the record for receptions. um And I held up a sign that said, like, Breeze for MVP, not Talented Kermit. Oh, jeez.
01:03:39
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And I was sitting front row and Cam Jordan and a bunch of the Saints players were like pointing out the sign. Like, look at that. Like he's talking about Mahomes. I remember you and your dad went to a Saints game in New Orleans. I watched it on. yeah I was able to get a picture of you. a Yeah, Facebook.
01:03:56
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It pops up on my Facebook memories all the time because I remember posting it and tagging you in it. That was the Saints-Jets game. Yeah, you guys were in, like, the home side corner. of they de And they definitely showed us because my dad is a Jets fan, so we wore Jets jersey, and, like, there's not many Jets fans there.
01:04:15
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So, like, them having us in the front row was just, like, perfect opportunity. They fucking showed us. Yeah. i Dude, it's been a while since I've been to the Dome. And ever since Bree's fucking retired, like I haven't... like I've still wanted to go back, but like I don't have the draw that I had, you know?
01:04:32
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i used to go to a game like every year, and then it just stopped. like I haven't been back since retired. I've been wanting to get the double as a home game. That's sick. Yeah.
01:04:44
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Yep. All right, man. All right. It was a good one. We held strong for just two of us. Yes, sir. All right. Well, you be good and hope everyone enjoyed this one and we'll catch you next time.
01:04:55
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Later, guys. Good morning, Jeff.