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Speaker: this is a small window in your career where you can take the opportunity to do different things.
Speaker: Like I live in Boulder, Colorado, and there are beautiful hikes everywhere, and I never, ever, ever hike.
Speaker: And so taking the opportunity to catch up with friends and hike and do things that I haven't had time to do is
Speaker: That would be my advice.
Speaker: Enjoy the pregnancy.
Speaker: Listen to your body.
Speaker: Be honest with yourself.
Speaker: Welcome, everybody, to your 303 Endurance Podcast.
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Speaker: Welcome to episode 250 of the 303 Endurance Podcast.
Speaker: You are listening to your weekly connection to coaches, experts, and pro athletes to help you reach your endurance goals.
Speaker: We're your hosts, Coach Rich Soros and 303 Chief Bill Plok.
Speaker: Thanks for joining us for another week of endurance interviews and discussion.
Speaker: We are super excited.
Speaker: We've got Miranda Carfrae and Tim O'Donnell here to talk to us about some exciting announcements coming out of that Power Duo household in Boulder.
Speaker: And that's coming up here in just a few minutes.
Speaker: Bill, how are you doing today?
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: I'm great.
Speaker: I've had a couple of fun days.
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Speaker: So we have been trying to get Rennie on the show for a long time, and we finally got both Rennie and T.O.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: That was awesome.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm really excited about this.
Speaker: Tio is obviously one of the world's most successful and experienced American long course triathletes.
Speaker: As a professional, he has earned more than 50 podium finishes, including more than 22 wins at major events throughout the world.
Speaker: And in 2019 in Kona, we saw him put down an awesome performance to break the eight hour mark and claim the title of the fastest American ever in Kona.
Speaker: Tio's better half, I guess, Miranda Carver, as an Ironman world champion herself in 2010, 13, and 14.
Speaker: We've been eager to get an interview with her for years, and she has just joined the Aquasphere team.
Speaker: She and Tio have an announcement that they made a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker: For those of you that follow them, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker: And if you don't know what I'm talking about, well, let's get into that interview right now.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: As you heard in our lead up, we have three time Ironman world champion and run course record holder and the fastest American ever race Kona with a sub eight performance in 2019.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: We've got the Tim and Rennie show right here on the 303 Endurance podcast.
Speaker: Welcome, guys.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Yeah, great to be here.
Speaker: Good to have you with us.
Speaker: Rennie, it's your first time.
Speaker: We're glad you're with us.
Speaker: Tim, we've talked a couple of times.
Speaker: Glad you're back.
Speaker: You guys have two big announcements recently.
Speaker: First, there was the Aquasphere announcement from a couple of weeks ago, welcoming Rennie to the Aquasphere team.
Speaker: And I'm not sure which announcement's bigger, but you also made an announcement on the Tim and Rennie show that Izzy's got a new baby brother or sister coming.
Speaker: That is awesome.
Speaker: Congratulations.
Speaker: Thanks.
Speaker: Yeah, we're super excited for number two to be on the way.
Speaker: We decided early on in kind of the lockdown that we should make the best of the year.
Speaker: And luckily we were able to, yeah, to do that quickly.
Speaker: Make hay while the sun is shining.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Your Tim and Rennie show has been a little different this year with, I guess, with COVID.
Speaker: Maybe you had a wine special.
Speaker: You've had their baby announcement.
Speaker: You've had a couple of other interesting episodes.
Speaker: How's that going for you?
Speaker: Yeah, Izzy had her own episode last week, The Izzy Show.
Speaker: I think that was everybody's favorite episode.
Speaker: Yeah, it's been, you know, obviously there's no races to go to to cover the show.
Speaker: So we're trying to be a little more creative and get a little more look into the, you know, to the family aspect.
Speaker: we've been working with Kenny Withrow here in Boulder who we've known for years.
Speaker: And just, yeah, a great addition to, to our team.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He's awesome.
Speaker: He does our garage talks as you might know, and he's just fun guy.
Speaker: And it's just, it's great to know that you guys are happy and rolling with that.
Speaker: Is that, is that kind of a, also a longer term strategy for you to the show, maybe looking down the road a few years, do you just hope to grow it in a different way at all?
Speaker: Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker: You know, we kind of started it a couple of years ago, not really knowing what it would be.
Speaker: And I think in some ways, maybe we still don't know what it would be.
Speaker: But, you know, it's growing.
Speaker: Everybody loves it.
Speaker: And it's been great for our partners just to have a different way to connect with our audience.
Speaker: So, yeah, I see it's something we'll try to keep on doing down the road for sure.
Speaker: How do you guys come up with the kind of the theme of the show?
Speaker: Do you, is it all collaborative or is one versus, you know, how do you, how do you come up with that?
Speaker: Yeah, I'd say, you know, kind of someone usually has an idea or, uh,
Speaker: Someone actually sometimes just viewers will leave comments.
Speaker: That's how the is show game about, you know, we did a day in the life with Rennie and someone's like, you should do an easy day in the life.
Speaker: I'm like, yes, that's perfect.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And other stuff is just, you know, what, however, you know, we're, if we're doing something different it makes sense to do it on the show.
Speaker: Well, it's interesting.
Speaker: We've kind of haphazardly, but maybe now a little more intentionally, started down this track of getting folks on the show that are on the Mount Rushmore of this or that.
Speaker: I'm a big sports talk fan, so they always talk about who's on the Mount Rushmore with basketball or football or the best quarterbacks.
Speaker: And we started talking about who would be the Mount Rushmore of triathlon, and we kind of broke it down to men and women and
Speaker: and both Mark Allen and Dave Scott mentioned you guys should be on the Mount Rushmore of triathlon.
Speaker: What's your reaction to that and who else should be up there with you?
Speaker: Well, we're flattered.
Speaker: Um, you know, when you get the likes of Mark Allen and Dave Scott, um, you know, speaking highly of you, that's, uh, you know, it doesn't go, uh, unnoticed that those guys have been around the sport forever.
Speaker: Uh, they know everyone very well.
Speaker: And, uh,
Speaker: They don't pull punches either.
Speaker: So they wouldn't have said if they didn't mean it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, I w I wouldn't put myself on there personally, but, uh, Rennie for sure.
Speaker: I'd have Rennie up there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think Mark even talked about your running form as part of it.
Speaker: Cause you're just Rennie and, um, your, your record on the run course and this and that.
Speaker: And it's just interesting.
Speaker: Everybody has a different kind of little spin on the Mount Rushmore argument, so to speak.
Speaker: Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker: And there's a lot of phenomenal athletes that I wouldn't want to start getting into picking who should or shouldn't be on there.
Speaker: Don't want to ruffle any feathers.
Speaker: I'll ruffle any feathers.
Speaker: Sure, sure.
Speaker: I think for women, I would put Rennie, Chrissy, Daniela, and Paula, and Nicky Frazier.
Speaker: I'm assuming we only can have four.
Speaker: I think that's a good list.
Speaker: Yeah, I think that's a good list.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You know, Rini, I still remember.
Speaker: Yeah, it depends if you think an Ironman or short course.
Speaker: Yeah, right.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: And you can bet that Mark and Scott were referring to Ironman, I think.
Speaker: That was the context when we were talking about it.
Speaker: And I still remember back in like 2013-ish,
Speaker: you guys coming down to the runner's roost to do a presentation Q and a in front of a group of, you know, fans and you guys pulling up in that tricked out Audi.
Speaker: You guys pull it up to that front spot and you guys just, you were rock stars back then.
Speaker: And before parents now.
Speaker: Like last week or two weeks ago.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: My little, were you talking about my little TT or are you talking about the one that was, um, all wrapped?
Speaker: The branded one.
Speaker: The one was all, you know, uh, you know.
Speaker: And Tim didn't love that car.
Speaker: I didn't know.
Speaker: Cause well, Rennie got her a little sports car, her little Audi.
Speaker: And then at the same time they gave her the wrapped wagon, the Rennie mobile.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, here I am stuck with the car that has Rennie's signature across the side of it and the Australian flag on the hood.
Speaker: Also, I did not know it would be that wrapped.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It was like a race car.
Speaker: I mean, it was loud, but it was good.
Speaker: Yeah, they did a really cool job with it, but I was a little bit embarrassed driving it.
Speaker: And yeah, you can imagine Tim's distaste for driving that thing with the Australian flag and the bonnet.
Speaker: It was still a great car.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: What are you guys driving nowadays?
Speaker: You know, you need a Suburban with a couple of car seats in the back.
Speaker: What, a year and a half ago?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We couldn't get to the airport.
Speaker: Without either like a suburban or a pickup truck with the two bikes and then the car seat in the back row.
Speaker: Oh, so I'm like, we got to get a truck.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And we were, we had, we were driving a friend's F one 50 when we were down in Lawrence.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I'm like, I need an F one 50.
Speaker: So now he has a Raptor.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, those are cool.
Speaker: That's a sweet ride.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Well, I'm going to start with this question.
Speaker: When are you guys due?
Speaker: On New Year's Eve.
Speaker: New Year's Eve?
Speaker: Really?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: 31st of December is the due date.
Speaker: Izzy was about 12 days late.
Speaker: Sometimes that's an indicator of the next one.
Speaker: Sometimes it's not.
Speaker: I'm expecting sometime in early January, but the baby will be here when it's here.
Speaker: So it could be 2020, could be 2021.
Speaker: We'll wait and see.
Speaker: Nice way to kick off 2021, wouldn't it?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: To get this year over with, right?
Speaker: And I was watching your show and you do not know the gender yet, as I understand it.
Speaker: And are you ever, are you going to find out before the birth or are you going to just wait and be surprised?
Speaker: We're going to wait and be surprised.
Speaker: Tim, if it was Tim's choice, he would
Speaker: find out this time around.
Speaker: He wants to find out this time.
Speaker: We didn't find out with Izzy.
Speaker: That was really cool.
Speaker: And I don't want to find out this time either, but Tim does want to find out.
Speaker: Boy or girl, I would love it madly.
Speaker: Love the baby madly, but I would be really pumped if it was a boy.
Speaker: So I'm like, well, let's find out.
Speaker: I don't want to be disappointed.
Speaker: You know, I've got time to cope.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Time to mentally prepare.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I've got two girls.
Speaker: I can't imagine what it would be like to have boys.
Speaker: Just so you know, Tim, I just don't know what I would do now.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, Izzy would love a little sister.
Speaker: I mean, I think that would be really cool.
Speaker: But also it would be really nice to have a little boy too.
Speaker: One of each would be really cool, but whatever.
Speaker: I mean, yeah, I'm happy with whatever comes.
Speaker: We had the 20-week ultrasound a few weeks ago.
Speaker: And I was trying to look.
Speaker: I couldn't figure it out though.
Speaker: I'm like, is that?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: And just how many pickles are you eating a day, Tim?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I actually love pickles and we kind of did that show just for fun.
Speaker: But I haven't been eating pickles that much this pregnancy.
Speaker: I love pickles and eat them year-round, pregnant or not.
Speaker: But yeah, it's kind of fun to do that episode with
Speaker: Tim having the pregnancy.
Speaker: That was cute, yeah.
Speaker: We had Bundu in anyway.
Speaker: How much are you training right now, Renny?
Speaker: Probably around 12 on a bigger week, 15 hours.
Speaker: I just went off program, so I was on program with Julie and following her program through till the beginning of this month.
Speaker: Now it's kind of like
Speaker: kind of go by how, how I feel.
Speaker: Cause I was starting to get like, you know, stitches when I was running like the round ligament.
Speaker: And so I, my runs would turn into sometimes run walks.
Speaker: And, um, with my last pregnancy with Izzy, I wasn't on a training program the whole pregnancy.
Speaker: I just did whatever I felt like when I woke up in the morning and it's kind of time for that.
Speaker: Now I'm up about 22 pounds and large and in charge.
Speaker: And, uh, so yeah, I mean,
Speaker: I'm kind of just kind of playing it by ear and going by feel now.
Speaker: Um, but trying to, I'll try to keep up around 10 to 12 hours throughout the pregnancy and obviously running will, you know, dip down at some point and I'll stop running and, you know, pick up more hiking and, uh, do a little more swimming as the, as the run comes down.
Speaker: So, uh, but cycling, um, the road, I'm still on the road bike, but it's the tummy starting to get in the way.
Speaker: So,
Speaker: I'll transition to the mountain bike and just probably ride back roads a little bit more coming up in a couple of weeks here.
Speaker: But yeah, I still feel pretty good.
Speaker: I feel like I've kept my fitness okay.
Speaker: Definitely more fit than I was with Izzy at this stage.
Speaker: But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker: I mean, it's
Speaker: It really doesn't matter too much because you still have to have, I mean, certainly the last few weeks you're not moving super great.
Speaker: And then I, you know, I have that at least six weeks off completely after the baby arrives.
Speaker: So it's going to be a tough road back regardless.
Speaker: And you're hoping to do Kona.
Speaker: That's what we hear.
Speaker: Is that the case?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So my original plan when we fell pregnant was to probably do a late season Ironman to qualify for 2022 Kona.
Speaker: But then I received an invitation to Kona 2021.
Speaker: And so I won't have to qualify, which, you know, I think it would have been really hard.
Speaker: Some athletes could do it, but I don't think I could get ready to qualify.
Speaker: I'd have to, you know, do a July or early August qualifier.
Speaker: But anyway, I don't have to worry about that.
Speaker: And I've been given a spot.
Speaker: So the plan is to do Kona next year.
Speaker: That's impressive.
Speaker: And you've been around the track, so to speak, with pregnancy and training before.
Speaker: And I mean, there are expecting mothers that listen to the show, I'm sure.
Speaker: And do you have any tips for them in terms of like, you know, how close up to giving birth you can train?
Speaker: And do you change the composite of what you're doing, the mix of the training that you're doing and swim more and run less or bike less because of, you know, what's the progression?
Speaker: Or intensity.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I, um, when I was pregnant with Izzy, I was really trying to find information on this topic and there really isn't a lot available.
Speaker: And so I've had some other athletes reach out and ask, you know, how much training is okay and what's too much.
Speaker: And honestly, it's so varies from person to person.
Speaker: Uh, and you know, I took a pretty, um, mild approach to training through my pregnancy with Izzy.
Speaker: I was just like, well, you know, I'm,
Speaker: not a professional athlete right now.
Speaker: And, you know, all that matters is creating this tiny human and I'm going to put, you know, all my energy into that and, you know, keep it active.
Speaker: But I was never like, as I said, on program or focused on training or anything.
Speaker: And then, you know, the natural progression was obviously to increase swimming as we got closer and, you know, you can swim right up to, I mean, I know women who have swim bike and,
Speaker: and ran all the way up to, you know, the day before giving birth.
Speaker: And I think it really is a comfort thing.
Speaker: Like, and depends where the baby's sitting.
Speaker: I've had some people say, well, what, you know, this pregnancy, I was able to run with no problem with my second pregnancy.
Speaker: It was uncomfortable early, like 12, 13 weeks in.
Speaker: So I stopped running.
Speaker: And so,
Speaker: It varies from pregnancy to pregnancy, but I guess the main thing or piece of advice I would want to give to other expecting mothers and even professional athlete mothers is to enjoy this time because, you know, it is a little miracle that you're growing inside you and this is a small window in your career.
Speaker: uh, where you can take the opportunity to do different things.
Speaker: Like I live in Boulder, Colorado, and there are beautiful hikes everywhere.
Speaker: And I never, ever, ever hike.
Speaker: And so taking the opportunity to catch up with friends and hike and do things that I haven't had time to do.
Speaker: Um, that would be my advice.
Speaker: Enjoy the pregnancy, listen to your body, be honest with yourself.
Speaker: If you're tired, take a nap.
Speaker: Um, you know, if you don't have another little terror running around, keeping you awake, but, um,
Speaker: Yeah, I think less is more.
Speaker: And I certainly was on the lower end of training volume through my pregnancy with Izzy.
Speaker: And my first race back was six or seven months after Izzy was born.
Speaker: But when I came back, I was racing as well, if not better than I ever had over half distance at least.
Speaker: So it does come back and it sucks the first few months because you're heavier and way out of shape.
Speaker: But I think...
Speaker: because I'd taken that time off, I was just mentally fresh and excited to be training.
Speaker: And, um, yeah, I think, you know, take a cautious approach, um, if any, and sort of enjoy the pregnancy for what it is.
Speaker: Well, I mean, COVID has certainly h ad a major shift in everything in our lives and, and you guys have a COVID baby basically coming, which is pretty cool.
Speaker: I kind of wondered what the, what the baby boom will be like from COVID.
Speaker: And, um,
Speaker: But, you know, when you think about maybe when you're 50 years old, let's say, let's say you were guys were to come up with a time capsule and you had 10 things to pick that are whatever.
Speaker: Would those 10 things be different?
Speaker: now after COVID maybe?
Speaker: I mean, if you did a time capsule a year ago, what would those things be like compared to now with COVID?
Speaker: What has COVID done to sort of enlighten your life, so to speak?
Speaker: I mean, we're pregnant.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But does it make you reflect differently?
Speaker: Does it make you think of your careers differently?
Speaker: Has it made you think of life just differently?
Speaker: Yeah, I think, I mean, for us, it's given us a little pause to enjoy Izzy a little bit more.
Speaker: Enjoy Colorado a little bit more.
Speaker: Yeah, enjoy our home a little bit more.
Speaker: And I don't think it's any, we've always known, like, that is what we value.
Speaker: You know, sometimes doing your job gets in the way, but I think it just, you know,
Speaker: re-emphasize the importance of that family time for us, especially when we look to do something else after we stop racing, you know, how is that going to look?
Speaker: And, you know, our priority really will be to spending, you know, spending time with family.
Speaker: And we're actually looking at a place up in the mountains now, like somewhere we can go, we can get away as the kids get older, especially kind of have that situation where we're just together as a family and
Speaker: um, yeah, just kind of step away from everything else, um, from time to time and appreciate each other.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm sure it's, uh, and then you think about like your business and the business of triathlon and now you're involved with the PTO of course.
Speaker: Um, and you're still holding onto your careers.
Speaker: You've got sponsors like Aquasphere that, um, you're, you know, now working with even more, um,
Speaker: Talk about that relationship with, with an Aquasphere and how that's been and what that, how the, how you use that in your life and how you're training with that.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, I, so I've been partners with Aquasphere for most of my professional career.
Speaker: Maybe I don't remember.
Speaker: It's been so long, maybe eight or nine years.
Speaker: So for me, it's great that,
Speaker: You know, Rennie's coming, you know, into the Oxford family.
Speaker: And for us, as you know, we've gotten older, we both had a lot of success individually.
Speaker: But I think the greatest things about our careers, how we have been able to have that success while supporting each other.
Speaker: And as particularly when Izzy came along,
Speaker: you know, tackling this journey together as a family.
Speaker: I mean, we took Izzy everywhere last year, the last two years.
Speaker: Um, and so she's really been a part of that journey for us.
Speaker: And it's actually, it's reinvigorated in my career.
Speaker: Renny would probably say the same thing, but it just kind of changed, um,
Speaker: what we're racing for and, you know, why we enjoy racing.
Speaker: And now it's more just that we get to experience it as a family.
Speaker: So, you know, with our partners like Aquasphere or other joint partners like Santini or Hoka, Athletic Greens, hopefully I'm not missing anybody.
Speaker: Carmen.
Speaker: Carmen.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Partner.
Speaker: But yeah, we've really made, you know, we, it's so great to see our partners value our story and what we've done as a family beyond just our individual race results.
Speaker: And, you know, you see that as we kind of start to come under the same brands for a lot of categories, which is, yeah, it's great.
Speaker: Do you, do you find it harder to create value for your sponsors in this kind of COVID non-racing world or, or you guys sort of like better positioned than some other professional athletes to create value for your sponsors because of, you know, obviously what you guys have achieved, but because you've got the Tim and Renny show as a platform.
Speaker: I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker: Yeah, I definitely feel that we, um,
Speaker: we're a little bit ahead of the curve with the YouTube show and bringing that out.
Speaker: And a lot of athletes are doing that now, but we kind of added it as kind of an add on for our sponsors and recognizing that, trying to figure out ways that we can authentically show off brands that we work with and partner with without, you know, the, the standard of,
Speaker: you know, Instagram post, you know, I run with this shoe or I, um, I use this nutrition.
Speaker: Um, this is just another way for us to showcase our partners and yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: Now that COVID has happened, um, yeah, it's, I feel that we're adding almost as much, um,
Speaker: to them or, or, or as much content as we ever have, um, in a different way.
Speaker: Obviously, you know, a lot of our, as you mentioned, Bill, our Tim and Rini shows were centered around races and performance and race recaps and, and all that.
Speaker: And with that gone, uh, we've been able to show a little bit more of actually how we live, um, and train and balance our families.
Speaker: And that was always the goal to kind of, um, showcase to professional athletes.
Speaker: racing at the highest level, um, bringing up, um, uh, a daughter through, through that.
Speaker: And, and now, yeah, we've been able to continue on the show.
Speaker: And I think, you know, the reason, you know, I was able to sign a sponsorship deal after I fell pregnant and in the middle of COVID is because we, um, have been able to remain fairly visible in the space and, um,
Speaker: I mean, there's no doubt our sponsors are bummed that we're not racing.
Speaker: Um, not only, I mean, there is obviously visibility that they get, but honestly they are invested in our success too, on personal levels.
Speaker: And, you know, they're just kind of bummed that we don't get the chance to, to, you know, break records or win races, um, and, you know, kind of show off our hard work.
Speaker: But I think the changing landscape of marketing, um,
Speaker: and the influence of social media and obviously marketing on those platforms has kind of made this year probably a little easier because we can put so much more emphasis on that.
Speaker: I mean, the YouTube channel's up like 35% or something with subscribers.
Speaker: Viewership is up like 45% year over year.
Speaker: So,
Speaker: Everybody else is at home too, right?
Speaker: So I think, yeah, we're grateful that our partners have been so supportive this year and we hope that we've been able to give them some value in a tough time.
Speaker: sticking on Aquasphere here for another minute or two, but, um, what, uh, what model is your favorite?
Speaker: I'm kind of a Cayenne guy.
Speaker: I've, I've been, uh, wearing Aquasphere goggles for a while.
Speaker: What, uh, what are your, what's your go-to model?
Speaker: I've always been a K 180 guy.
Speaker: Um, tried and true for me, but they do have- What's that?
Speaker: A little smaller.
Speaker: A little smaller.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: More like a pool, like a race, like competition swim goggle.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But they, yeah, the Cayenne, you can't go wrong with that one.
Speaker: And the Cayman, they're super comfortable.
Speaker: And the lenses that Aquaspear have are second to none.
Speaker: I mean, Vince McMahon training in different goggles for a long time and their lenses are super clear.
Speaker: And I think that's, you know, what they pride themselves on.
Speaker: But they do have a new fast goggle coming out in 2021.
Speaker: We're working with them on that.
Speaker: And so, yeah, we're excited.
Speaker: I think it'll be their best goggle.
Speaker: And you're going to see some awesome lens choices too coming up.
Speaker: You know, we all do it with our sunglasses, right?
Speaker: We have different colors, different tints for different light situations.
Speaker: And it's very much the same thing, particularly with open water swimming or if you're, you know, swimming outdoors.
Speaker: Or in a dirty lake.
Speaker: So, yeah, it's going to be some really cool lens options too.
Speaker: I feel like goggles are way overlooked by probably the average triathlete.
Speaker: They just grab a pair, whatever, maybe it's on sale and fits okay.
Speaker: And it seems to be working in the pool.
Speaker: Talk about, I am kind of curious what, what makes a good goggle for you guys?
Speaker: Like, how do you know when it's the right goggle?
Speaker: So like, I, I love training in, um, I think it's the Excel.
Speaker: It's one of the Phelps goggles.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: And it's like that, that goggle was designed to stay on Michael Phelps face when he dives in the pool at very high velocity.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: That strap is very tight.
Speaker: It does not move.
Speaker: But if I were to do, you know, 45, 50 minute Ironman swim in that, it would like crush my eye sockets, you know, because you're not taking it on and off.
Speaker: So yeah,
Speaker: Yeah, that's one of those things where you do have to pay attention to open water swimming and pool swimming.
Speaker: So that's always why I race in the K180 because it's a very similar socket, but a different band that's much more comfortable for a longer swim where you aren't taking your goggles on and off like you would in training.
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker: Rich, do you think about the goggle a lot when you get ready to...
Speaker: Race for the season.
Speaker: I actually think about the goggle a lot right before a race too.
Speaker: I mean, I'll bring a couple.
Speaker: I mean, if I bring any goggles along, cause I actually have left all my goggles at home before for a race, that just makes your heart stop and your feet sweat.
Speaker: I love having a couple of choices, you know, before a race, just, you know, but the lens clarity, I think,
Speaker: you know, that's the difference between making a pack, missing a pack, being able to follow some feet, you know, in clearer water.
Speaker: If you can see, I've certainly found I'm not a great swimmer, but I feel that, you know, it's really important to be able to sight and also just see the people around you.
Speaker: If you have clarity and you're, you know, your goggles are super clear and visibility is good, then you have a better chance of, you know, hanging onto that pack.
Speaker: And for me, that's,
Speaker: extremely important.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Do you guys do much swim training?
Speaker: Do you guys train together swimming often?
Speaker: Together?
Speaker: I mean, we go to the pool together and swim in different lanes.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, we both train with Julie Dibbins now.
Speaker: And so, yeah, we, you know, have
Speaker: In a normal situation, we'd have squad training three times a week.
Speaker: And then, you know, we might swim two other times.
Speaker: You know, we might go to the pool together and swim together or just do our swims separately.
Speaker: But, yeah, we definitely go to the pool together.
Speaker: Really, does Julie also prescribe Terrible Tuesdays or Terrible Thursdays or some version of that for you two?
Speaker: Yeah, Terrible Tuesday is a Julie Divens thing.
Speaker: We have – our program basically is –
Speaker: Yeah, that's the pattern it follows.
Speaker: Monday is usually off or a very easy swim day.
Speaker: And so Tuesday, you know, you're in for a hard swim, hard bike, hard run, hard everything.
Speaker: And then, you know, fall into bed at the end of the day and hope you can survive Wednesday, which is usually a decent bike session.
Speaker: Jeez, that must make your evenings on Tuesdays either very relaxing together or you guys are just wiped out and... Wiped out and relieved.
Speaker: Are you?
Speaker: Go for another Tuesday, so... Do you get grumpy on Monday night knowing that you've got Terrible Tuesday coming up?
Speaker: We try not to, I think Tim's got into the habit of just not looking at his program until he's going, walking into the like session.
Speaker: Ignorance is bliss fellas.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And if it is a really hard day, I might have a little bit, you know, be a little bit grumpy, but yeah, I mean, we've been doing this for so long.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We're part of it.
Speaker: Do you guys motivate, how do you guys motivate each other in a general sense?
Speaker: Um, I mean, I don't think I wouldn't consider either of us a cheerleader by any means in terms of, um, honestly, I think we're both that personality where we don't, we don't really complain.
Speaker: We just do work, you know?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You just get up, go to work, get our job done, um, and come home.
Speaker: And, you know, we, we don't really, honestly, like we rarely discuss training actually outside of, um,
Speaker: actually if we're in the session and doing the session, like we'll go and be like, Oh, what are you doing today?
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Well, I'm doing this.
Speaker: Oh, that sucks.
Speaker: Well, ouch, that's going to really hurt.
Speaker: But it's, yeah, we don't, you know, I mean, we have a similar personality in that we don't really need cheerleaders.
Speaker: We just need a good program and good team around us.
Speaker: And I mean, we know we, I think we don't need to cheer on each other because we already know like,
Speaker: I already know that Tim's cheering me on and has my back and wants only the best for me and vice versa.
Speaker: So I think it kind of just goes without saying.
Speaker: And I think also it would be very rare for both of us to be unmotivated on the same day.
Speaker: And just when you see your spouse just getting it done, being disciplined, it's a lot easier for you
Speaker: for you to be disciplined if you're having one of those days.
Speaker: But there are some times when we're both like, oh, can we just sleep in today?
Speaker: I'm ready on the snow this morning actually with the snow.
Speaker: The snow, yeah.
Speaker: I'm like, let's just not train today.
Speaker: Yeah, let's go out and get breakfast.
Speaker: Let's go get some breakfast.
Speaker: And Tim's like, oh, it's, you know, he had a swim, a two and a half hour trainer ride.
Speaker: And we had no power either this morning.
Speaker: So I'm like, you can't ride your trainer.
Speaker: You can't ride on the snow.
Speaker: Like, let's just go and have a nice breakfast.
Speaker: And
Speaker: But then, you know, we, the power came on half an hour later.
Speaker: And so then it just made him late for the whole day.
Speaker: You didn't unplug him, Rennie, like he did you?
Speaker: Yeah, no, I wouldn't do that to him.
Speaker: If I did, if I got him out of a session, he would be grateful.
Speaker: I am curious.
Speaker: I got off.
Speaker: I got on my trainer today for the first time in quite a while.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: and I love Zwift and I have a, a Saris trainer.
Speaker: What do you, what do you guys like to, for an indoor trainer?
Speaker: What's, what's the most fun for you?
Speaker: A lot of people are doing indoor training this, you know, not so much in the summer, but now looking ahead and with COVID there's more and more of it all the time.
Speaker: What's your favorite?
Speaker: Yeah, we ride the tax trainer.
Speaker: We love that train.
Speaker: It's, um, um, yeah, the Neo.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: It's a little, like when you're out of the saddle, it has a little bit of movement.
Speaker: So it feels a little bit more like the road, uh,
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, super smooth.
Speaker: And you know what's great about that?
Speaker: And I didn't realize this until I, you know, really started riding a lot this winter on the trainer when we got back from Australia.
Speaker: But, like, a lot of the guys are having –
Speaker: like, yeah, straight, like sacral stress fractures, right?
Speaker: On my old trainer, it's very locked in, right?
Speaker: So you're kind of, you're just forcing one movement, you don't get any of that lateral movement to kind of keep your hips and your lower back a little more fluid.
Speaker: And I think that might actually be a real help to be an injury free to have that little
Speaker: kind of that natural road movement and trainer, like the tax.
Speaker: Um, you know, if you get out of the saddle, you get that side to side road feel.
Speaker: And I think that's great for, um, just allowing your body to move, um, naturally like it does on the road and not forcing you into a singular position, uh, like most trainers do.
Speaker: Huh?
Speaker: That's interesting.
Speaker: I hadn't thought about that.
Speaker: That does make sense though.
Speaker: I hadn't heard about people getting fractures.
Speaker: That's kind of scary, but yeah, Matt Hoffman.
Speaker: Um, wow.
Speaker: Andy, maybe Andy Potts, Boker, maybe.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: A lot of the, a lot of the guys, one of the other European guys in the last few years, I've been getting sacral stress fractures and yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We just wonder if that.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That is not a medical recommendation.
Speaker: That is purely my hypothesis.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: My mind didn't even go to, to the trainer or even writing.
Speaker: I always thought that that was maybe a running injury, but interesting.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So, uh, Renny, you're, you're off program right now, Tim, it sounds like you're on program still.
Speaker: Is that true?
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: Uh, we're doing kind of three weeks on a week off.
Speaker: Um, not completely off, but like no off program.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You do it, do whatever you feel like.
Speaker: Uh, and that's really nice because, um, number one, it's given us a chance to do some other stuff with, as a family.
Speaker: And then it just breaks up the, the year too.
Speaker: I mean,
Speaker: I hope people aren't having just gotten stuck into training day in, day out, because it wears you down.
Speaker: You're not going to recover.
Speaker: And you're going to lose your love of the sport, too, if you don't have those breaks.
Speaker: And usually we get those breaks around your race schedule, tapering for a race, recovering from a race, things like that.
Speaker: So I think it's important to have that balance.
Speaker: And I know that, Rini, you did a VR race and Tim unplugged your trainer during the race and all that.
Speaker: Are you treating the intensity different this year, even with the VR racing?
Speaker: Or were you really kind of just maybe just settling in this year?
Speaker: Or were you really trying to be trained to be competitive in those VR sessions?
Speaker: I only did the first VR race, like it was actually VR one.
Speaker: So we didn't really even know what to expect for that first one.
Speaker: You know, I initially it was going to be a race and you know, I was in great shape.
Speaker: I was, you know, a few weeks out from Texas 70.3 and like seven weeks out from my man's and George.
Speaker: And so I, yeah, I was in great shape, ready to race, but then initially they were going to have, you know, prize money.
Speaker: And I don't know, different prize money.
Speaker: So first, second, third, fourth with the four girls.
Speaker: And then we were like, okay, well then how, you know, are we going to h ave a weigh in at the beginning, you know, of the show?
Speaker: And then are we going to, how are we going to adjust for like, at that point, I guess we didn't have enough people from Boulder racing.
Speaker: So we were racing people at sea level.
Speaker: How are we going to, you know, adjust for that?
Speaker: And they were like, oh wait, we hadn't thought about any of this.
Speaker: forget about the race.
Speaker: It's not a, well, they say it's not a race, but basically from then it was, um, appearance fees.
Speaker: So it didn't matter if you were first or last, you got the same amount of money.
Speaker: Um, and so then I'm like, okay, so, I mean, I mean, I didn't, I know Jeannie was racing and I know her a little bit, I know it better now.
Speaker: Um, and then a couple, a couple other girls at racing Angela, I think in Jocelyn.
Speaker: And so I didn't really know if we were going to be racing or if it's an exhibition and,
Speaker: So I kind of went into it with like, I don't know if we're going to be pushing really hard or not.
Speaker: And anyway, I found out like in the first one minute that we were racing.
Speaker: And so, yeah, it was game on from the gun.
Speaker: I guess you should have known.
Speaker: A bunch of triathletes, you say race and we'll race even if it's for peanuts.
Speaker: And so, yeah, it was.
Speaker: was a race and I raced to the best of my ability until about halfway when Tim came.
Speaker: Shut that down.
Speaker: But yeah.
Speaker: And then like, honestly, I hadn't done any more of those.
Speaker: And so pretty much soon after that, we found out we were pregnant.
Speaker: A few weeks later, we maybe three or four weeks later, we found out we were pregnant.
Speaker: And then I actually did a, like kind of an exhibition event with Meredith Kessler called mothers of triathlon and,
Speaker: on endurance zone TV and, uh, yeah, I, I was about six or seven weeks pregnant when I did that.
Speaker: But again, like it was more an exhibition than a race.
Speaker: It's just, you know, us getting out there and, and, and letting people join in with us and, um, sort of another way to try and showcase our sponsors when, you know, no races.
Speaker: So yeah, I mean, Tim, I guess you did one VR, he did VR too.
Speaker: And by then he knew it was actually a race, even though there was not really any, you know, extra prize money, um, for, for winning.
Speaker: So, although his was 40 K and mine was a 90 K, so he got let off the hook.
Speaker: I guess I did.
Speaker: I did do 45 K before my plug was pulled out.
Speaker: Do you guys enjoy them?
Speaker: Are they fun for you?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's, um, it's just not the same for me.
Speaker: Um, you know, hats off to Ironman for, you know, putting something together in this tough year.
Speaker: Um, but yeah, uh, I, I need to be out on the race.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And be in, in the mix and the feel of dynamic of the race.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: It suits people, guys that are trainers, I guess it's more like a, who's the best trainer.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And it's interesting to see, um, people who have really shone in the VR racing that, you know, you wouldn't necessarily, or maybe, you know, maybe they will when they come back to racing, maybe they've made some great leaps and bounds, but, um, yeah, it's interesting to see that athletes that did really well in VR racing and, um,
Speaker: Yeah, other athletes, I think Tim and I included, we like the grand stage.
Speaker: There's a better stage than Kona to get the best out of ourselves because we love the pressure and the excitement and what's laid on the line.
Speaker: I think VR racing, there's nothing to lose, so maybe that suits different athletes.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, actually, I was chatting with Erin Carson, our trainer, our strength trainer and owner of a rally sport here in Boulder.
Speaker: And she was kind of saying, like watching the NBA, how some of the younger players are like having these amazing games because it's just like.
Speaker: There's no crowd.
Speaker: There's no crowd.
Speaker: The pressure is different.
Speaker: You know, they're just out there playing there.
Speaker: You know, they don't have to deal with those other variables, which I guess is something, you know, with experience you learn how to deal with.
Speaker: It's like you guys read my mind.
Speaker: I was actually going to segue a little bit and talk about how the other sports, NBA and the NHL and soon football, talking about their bubbles and how they're trying to make this all work.
Speaker: And you guys as pro triathletes are...
Speaker: kind of left out in the current format of things.
Speaker: It's starting, there's starting to be a few races and, and Tim, I know you're a big part of the pro, you know, the cycling, I'm sorry, the pro triathlete PTO.
Speaker: And then obviously you're both very involved in the sport.
Speaker: What's your lens like with pro triathlon right now and the health of it and how it's going to survive the next year without the kinds of TV programs that the NBA and the NFL and those guys have?
Speaker: Yeah, I think it's, honestly, it's up to us.
Speaker: You know, historically, the professional aspect of triathlon has been piggybacked off of, you know, the participations out of the sport, which is great.
Speaker: I think it's something that's very unique with our sport to be able to race along with the age group community.
Speaker: And it's something I think everybody values a lot, but it doesn't,
Speaker: it's for the bottom line of the race companies like, like Ironman, um, you know, their concern isn't having a professional race.
Speaker: Their concern is having a mass participation race because that's where they make their money.
Speaker: So, um, in light of that, I think the PTO is more important than ever because here we have the chance to take the professional racing into our own hands.
Speaker: And we're doing that with challenge Daytona, uh, which is going forward in December.
Speaker: And, um,
Speaker: you know, we've seen that in, uh, at Davos in Europe.
Speaker: Um, there was a race, uh, in great Britain, uh, last week, I believe, uh, where the PTO has put up the prize purse for the professionals, uh, to get us back out there and get us racing.
Speaker: So, and we're going to do that for a few races here in the U S that we're working on right now as well.
Speaker: So, um, and that's not only to
Speaker: to give the professionals a chance to earn some cash, but it gives us the chance to start working on the platform and, and, you know, and the television coverage, to be honest, particularly at Daytona, you know, Daytona and how we do the media coverage of that is going to be a very important for us building into the Collins cup next year, which will be a major production.
Speaker: That sounds really cool, the Challenge Daytona with everything inside the track there and the swimming.
Speaker: Yeah, the whole way to be inside the NASCAR track.
Speaker: Have you been there?
Speaker: I have not, no.
Speaker: We almost went last year, we were invited, and I just didn't fit into the schedule.
Speaker: How are you enjoying this role with PTO as it looks forward in the rest of your career?
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I think it's, to be honest, I think the younger athletes are going to be the ones that really reap the benefits of
Speaker: the work the PTO is doing right now.
Speaker: But, um, you know, if we can leave the professional sport in a better place than when we arrived, I think that's, that's important for us to do is as athletes who have, you know, really, um, you know, made good careers in triathlon.
Speaker: 2021 obviously can't come fast enough.
Speaker: Um, and, uh, you're both racing Kona.
Speaker: What are your lead up races that you're thinking about?
Speaker: Collins cup aside, Tim, uh, what are the other races that you're thinking about doing?
Speaker: I am committed to challenge Roth.
Speaker: I'm really excited to be going out there.
Speaker: I was supposed to go out there this year and that'll be my only full distance race before Kona.
Speaker: I've already, my qualification from this year gets pushed to next year.
Speaker: So I don't need to worry about that.
Speaker: So I can focus on Roth and racing Jan and Sebi and all the other guys out there who are
Speaker: I'm going to be hungry to get back to racing.
Speaker: It's going to be hard.
Speaker: You're going to race the Germans in Germany.
Speaker: How about you, Rennie?
Speaker: Yeah, I hope to be back racing around June, late May maybe.
Speaker: And I haven't really looked at the schedule too much yet because I kind of want to bust this baby out and see how I am and then sort of start planning.
Speaker: But, you know, and also like,
Speaker: at this point, who really knows what next year is going to look like.
Speaker: So I'm not really setting my heart on any, any races in particular, but my rate and schedule will look like, you know, 70.3s as many as I can.
Speaker: That makes sense leading into Kona.
Speaker: And then obviously, you know, probably, you know, August, September, pretty hard training push into Kona and maybe something like Santa Cruz as a lead in.
Speaker: If Tim,
Speaker: We may go out with Tim.
Speaker: I just don't want to ruin his race if it's myself and Izzy and the little baby and we'll have to bring in Nanny as well.
Speaker: And yeah, we'll see how that dynamic plays.
Speaker: We'd love to go out and support him, but also we don't want to add stress to him going out there and getting to do Roth, which I got to do in 2014.
Speaker: It's just one of my greatest memories in the sport actually.
Speaker: Um, but if we do go out, I'll try and do a race before or after, um, maybe in Europe and then, yeah.
Speaker: Um, but basically 70.3 is from late May to June-ish through Kona.
Speaker: Well, we look forward to seeing you both in Kona next year and, uh, in October.
Speaker: Sorry, it's not this year.
Speaker: And you guys have been so generous with your time.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: This has been, been a lot of fun.
Speaker: It's a nice to finally, uh, chat with you, Rennie, on the show.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: No worries, Rich.
Speaker: My pleasure.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: So Bill, that was pretty awesome.
Speaker: I thought pretty funny there at the end talking about, you asked how they thought about virtual racing and what they thought about it.
Speaker: Not quite the same, sounds like.
Speaker: Yeah, I'll be curious to see what the shelf life of virtual racing is.
Speaker: I mean, let's just hypothetically say our COVID challenges are similar for the next, God forbid, two years.
Speaker: Will people really want to engage that long or are they just going to start doing other stuff?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I mean, I got on my Zwift the other day for the first time in a while and I do like it.
Speaker: It's fine.
Speaker: But I don't know about all these challenges.
Speaker: It'll be interesting to see if they stick around.
Speaker: I thought it was interesting what both of them were saying, particularly Rennie about, you just don't have the pressure that you have in real racing, right?
Speaker: You just don't have all of the energy.
Speaker: You don't have all of the competitor, you know, there aren't nearly as many competitors, of course.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Um, and, you know, especially for the pros, you know, they don't get that many pros at these virtual races, right?
Speaker: It's just to use usually a feature few and, um, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker: And it was also interesting what you asked of Tio about how PTO is going to, you know, compared to other sports where you have pro athletes like football and baseball and basketball and others.
Speaker: How is PTO, what's their outlook on, you know, how triathlon will survive in this virtual world?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And, and just as a teaser, maybe for an upcoming guest, Will Dugan, who's just running the professional cycling foundation with some very similar mission.
Speaker: They're just different stages of where they're at, but I think there's a lot of interest to try to get, you know, a place for the athletes in these sports, endurance sports, if you will, a way to make a more solid living.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's a lot of, a lot of different things happening with that.
Speaker: Yeah, well, they have their 2021 calendar set up.
Speaker: So it looks like Tio is going to be racing Challenge Roth.
Speaker: And Rennie's got, I love what she said, once the baby's out, she's going to start racing 70.3s around the middle of the year.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: Both have their ticket, both have their ticket to Kona.
Speaker: So let's hope Kona happens.
Speaker: Kona happens.
Speaker: Folks, there's some links in here to, uh, Tio and Miranda's, um, and Rennie's, uh, websites plus the, uh, Tim and Rennie show.
Speaker: And I want to give a shout out to Kenny Withrow for the photos that he has made available for today's episode.
Speaker: He works with them and it's got some great photos that he got for us.
Speaker: So thanks Kenny.
Speaker: All right.
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Speaker: All right, Bill, I've got your endurance news tour update for the week.
Speaker: So here are the standings after stage 18, which was yesterday or Thursday stage.
Speaker: Primoz Roglic is still in yellow.
Speaker: Sam Bennett's still in green.
Speaker: And now we've got Richard Carapaz in the polka dot journey jersey.
Speaker: He took that away.
Speaker: He took that yesterday.
Speaker: And Tadej Kovacic.
Speaker: Pogacar, Pogacar is how you pronounce it in the white jersey, the youngest writer.
Speaker: And I got to tell you, Primoz Roglic being in yellow still is because of one guy.
Speaker: Well, Primoz Roglic is part of the equation, of course, but Sepp Kuss, he has been crushing it.
Speaker: So last week he was 27th overall in the GC after 12 stages.
Speaker: He had been putting in some killer performances before to keep Primoz up front.
Speaker: Well, man, he just had a killer stage on 17.
Speaker: He had a fourth place finish himself, but he...
Speaker: pulled hard as shit going up, um, this climb to bring Primoz Roglic up with, uh, Michael Lopez, who was in, I think he was in fourth at the time, or maybe he was in third.
Speaker: Lopez ended up winning that stage, but because of Sepp Kuss, he kept Primoz Roglic close enough to him that the time gap didn't shrink too much.
Speaker: So this guy, Sepp, is now sitting after stage 18 in 14th overall or 15th overall in the GC.
Speaker: I think 15th overall.
Speaker: That's pretty awesome.
Speaker: I think this guy, I mean, the way they're talking, this guy's got a contract for as long as he wants with, um, with, uh, Jumbo Visma.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: I just think, yeah, that's pretty amazing that he's, I, and I read where he could have actually maybe won that stage, but he made a point to come back to make sure to bring his teammate up.
Speaker: He,
Speaker: I think he absolutely could be winning some of these stages, but he is doing exactly what a domestique needs to do.
Speaker: And he just pulls off at the end and lets his captain take it from there.
Speaker: And you know who he reminds me of?
Speaker: He reminds me of Richie Port with Chris Room several years back when Richie Port was new on the scene.
Speaker: He was just a ferocious, aggressive domestique.
Speaker: And that's kind of how I think of Sepkus here.
Speaker: I also wanted to share with you some of these abandons.
Speaker: So we've had some really big names abandoned this week.
Speaker: So stage 14, Roman Bardet did not start after a crash that he had on stage 13.
Speaker: Uh...
Speaker: In stage 17, Egan Bernal did not start.
Speaker: And in stage 18, just yesterday, Andre Greipel, the big German sprinter, DNF'd.
Speaker: So that's kind of a bummer.
Speaker: But get this, man.
Speaker: One of these guys early, I was looking at the people who've dropped early in stage two, this guy, Rafael Valls from Spain, broke a femur.
Speaker: I didn't, I missed that.
Speaker: Yeah, no fun.
Speaker: I'll tell you what, crashes, I was, so I'm watching yesterday's stage and I watched Mark Hershey.
Speaker: He's about 45 miles from the finish going downhill, taking a left-hand curve in a group of three.
Speaker: I think there was three or four in his group, three maybe.
Speaker: Anyway, he went down and just watching him go down and sliding across the pavement, I just wanted to cry.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And, um, and the reason why is because I went down myself at the time trial on Wednesday.
Speaker: That's what I want to talk about.
Speaker: I heard about that.
Speaker: And you're walking a little gingerly today.
Speaker: So this is a 9.9, almost a 10 mile course.
Speaker: It finishes uphill.
Speaker: Well, it actually finishes, it used to finish uphill, but now you have to go all the way to the top of the hill and you have to make this right-hand turn about a hundred meters from the finish.
Speaker: I took that right-hand turn and I don't know what happened, but my rear tire went out from under me and I was down on the ground and
Speaker: Calf, right calf, right side of my thigh, my hip, my butt, my right forearm, even my right foot.
Speaker: So I slid good enough that I sheared off part of the side of my cycling shoe.
Speaker: It went all the way through the shoe, through the sock.
Speaker: And I didn't even realize I had that injury until the next morning when I started to walk around.
Speaker: I was like, why does my foot hurt?
Speaker: And then I saw it and I went out to the garage and I looked at my shoe and sure enough had a nickel size hole in it.
Speaker: That's crazy.
Speaker: You must have, you must have some pretty good road rash if it didn't that much harm to your bike shoe.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: A little stuff.
Speaker: Anyway.
Speaker: Sorry.
Speaker: Well.
Speaker: Sorry to hear.
Speaker: And I am looking forward to this interview with, um,
Speaker: with Will Dugan.
Speaker: I want to hear about what his tips are for getting back on the bike right away and healing quickly.
Speaker: And how do you treat, how did he used to treat those kinds of wounds when he was a pro cyclist?
Speaker: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker: Well, Bill, what's new in the 303, my friend?
Speaker: Well, I mean, there's actually quite a bit going on.
Speaker: We had the first cyclocross race last night, the Death Bowl up in Louisville, which came together really quickly just in the last week.
Speaker: About 120 riders showed up.
Speaker: It's all a fundraiser for Team Colorado cycling team, which is basically a
Speaker: It's kind of like a traveling team for youth who go to like tour to healer Valley of the sun or some of those regional events or national events where there's, you know, six, eight, 10 of our best road cyclist from different teams who come together and they ride under the team Colorado flag, if you will.
Speaker: Um, yeah.
Speaker: So that was pretty cool.
Speaker: And we had, you know, Karen Hornbostel time trial was, we had the second installment where you crashed, unfortunately this week.
Speaker: And then we had, I was up in the black Hills earlier since the last show.
Speaker: Um, actually I was planning to go to visit family and I, um,
Speaker: I ran into Kirsten McKay at the Lookout Mountain Try, and she's telling me she was going up there.
Speaker: And I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember hearing about that.
Speaker: So coincidentally, I covered a race in South Dakota, which was actually really cool, called the Wildlife Loop.
Speaker: Totally different vibe than our races here.
Speaker: Very low key.
Speaker: You know, I scooted in at night, tried to figure out where it was.
Speaker: There was no, it just was.
Speaker: yeah, not a big transition, about 175 athletes.
Speaker: It was a half iron distance in a, an Olympic distance, um, two loops from course.
Speaker: If you were doing the half and two loop bike course, if you're doing the half and whatever.
Speaker: So really hard course though, the it's about 5,200 feet of elevation, um, altitude.
Speaker: And then the bike course was through Custer state park, a lot of Hills up and down, but absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker: And, um,
Speaker: I don't know what the elevation gain on the bike is, but I drove the course and it's not many flat spots.
Speaker: But during the race, some buffalo wandered onto the course and I got some really awesome shots of these athletes screaming by these buffalo at 30, 40 miles an hour who were literally about 10 feet away.
Speaker: Those pictures are really cool, but I would have been pretty freaked out if I had a buffalo near the road.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean...
Speaker: all it would have taken is them spooked just a tad and it would have been a horrible situation, but I think they're pretty used to cars and stuff, but they'd seem pretty content to be sitting on the side of the road or standing, gracing, grazing.
Speaker: But, um, so that was a cool loop though.
Speaker: It was a really fun, um, yeah.
Speaker: So, and Kirsten did really well as usual, but that it's an interesting triathlon because, um,
Speaker: They actually have prizes for the amateurs.
Speaker: I saw that.
Speaker: And if you win as an amateur, your $800 prize.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's pretty solid.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Pretty solid.
Speaker: That would cover your expenses and more getting there maybe.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I would definitely put that on your list.
Speaker: If you're thinking about something a little bit different, it's more of a destination.
Speaker: And then there's a great bike path up there called the Mickelson trail that about 108 miles long that goes all from basically the South side of Black Hills to the North side and goes through beautiful country.
Speaker: It's an old railroad bed.
Speaker: It's very smooth.
Speaker: It's, it's almost doable on a road bike.
Speaker: I mean, you could, but it would be more comfortable on a gravel bike.
Speaker: Or mountain bike, um, real gradual elevation changes.
Speaker: And there's a lot to do in that area.
Speaker: And there's a lot of cabins you can rent along the way.
Speaker: So if you want to break it up into smaller chunks, it's totally the thing people do.
Speaker: Um, it's just a great destination.
Speaker: The black Hills, about a six hour drive from Denver.
Speaker: So it's pretty accessible.
Speaker: Um, and then we got the, uh, got a lot of things swirling around next weekend up here in Loveland for the, uh,
Speaker: the last call triathlon it's J B Tobin is the race director and I teased him.
Speaker: He's like Forrest Gump when he had his, uh, shrimping boat out there and all the other shrimp boats got blown up by the hurricane.
Speaker: And so he built a empire on his shrimp catch.
Speaker: Well, I think J B's kind of,
Speaker: lucking out here because this race is one of the few going on, but we've got, you know, we mentioned it earlier, I think last week, sister Madonna booters coming out to race, which is a big deal.
Speaker: But not only that, we've got four Paralympic athletes coming three who have been on the podium and two that we've interviewed, Alyssa Seeley and Kyle Kuhn, Kyle Kuhn and
Speaker: Haley Dance, who I interviewed a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker: I mean, it's pretty cool.
Speaker: And what's really fun with Kyle Kuhn, who's a visually impaired athlete, his guide, quote unquote, is Andy Potts, who is an Olympian as well.
Speaker: So you've got really all-star cast.
Speaker: In this –
Speaker: Little Colorado triathlon.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, 175 people, it's a sprint try and yeah, it's pretty, pretty interesting.
Speaker: So,
Speaker: I don't know if we're supposed to encourage people to come watch, but maybe you can get your SUP and get on the lake and see some of the action or whatever.
Speaker: I mean, there's going to be people in the park.
Speaker: Of course, it's up at Boyd Lake State Park.
Speaker: So pretty cool.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Very cool.
Speaker: Can't wait.
Speaker: Looking forward to that.
Speaker: Almost wish I wasn't racing to sit there and watch it all.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Maybe I won't race.
Speaker: Depends on how I feel.
Speaker: You might, you might, I'm about to take your spot.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, yeah, that'd be awesome.
Speaker: I'd love to let you do that.
Speaker: You need to race.
Speaker: I know I need to, I need to get in shape.
Speaker: Shake the dust off.
Speaker: Shake the dust off.
Speaker: That's true.
Speaker: Well, very cool.
Speaker: That's going to be awesome.
Speaker: Can't wait.
Speaker: So we've got, as you've heard, we've got a lot of great coming interviews before we talk about the upcoming interviews.
Speaker: I did throw out a video of the week here from our, kind of inspired by our interview with Rennie and Tim.
Speaker: We asked her, what's it like training when you're pregnant?
Speaker: What's your approach?
Speaker: She had a great video here, running while pregnant, in addition to the other great videos that they've got on the Tim and Rennie show.
Speaker: But I actually thought that this might be something that might be interesting, especially to our female athletes or those who have a spouse or a partner that is pregnant, that she's got some tips here on how to run while pregnant.
Speaker: So,
Speaker: You've got that and our upcoming interviews.
Speaker: Of course, we've already mentioned Will Dugan talking about his pro career, some of the big races that he's done, like the Tour of California and the Pro Cycling Challenge and more.
Speaker: We're also going to be talking about Project Super Training, these supported rides that provide a pro-like experience for amateurs and some pros.
Speaker: And, um, and kind of where that money goes.
Speaker: Plus we've got Amy Dixon, who's a visually impaired professional triathlete and a member of the USA paratriathlon national team.
Speaker: She is the reigning aqua aqualon, uh, world champion and a U S national champion triathlete.
Speaker: She is ranked six in the world in the Paralympic international rankings.
Speaker: So we're excited to have that plus the
Speaker: Sister Madonna Booter, who started training at the age of 48, at the behest of Father John, who told her it was a way of tweaking mind, body, and spirit for the relaxation and calmness it can bring to an individual.
Speaker: She completed her first triathlon at the age of 52 and her first Ironman event at the age of 55.
Speaker: She is going to be racing this last call triathlon in the 90 plus category.
Speaker: She has been racing for 40 years.
Speaker: I was going to say, so wait a minute, 40, how long has Ironman been around?
Speaker: 45, 45 years.
Speaker: No, 35 years.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: 35 years.
Speaker: 35 years.
Speaker: So Ironman.
Speaker: Ironman wasn't that far along in its history when she did one.
Speaker: No.
Speaker: It was brand new still.
Speaker: Pretty new.
Speaker: Pretty new.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's pretty cool.
Speaker: Pretty cool.
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