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Episode 159 - Daily Manchester United - Season & Europe Disaster
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Niall is joined by Tom with raw reaction from Europa League Final loss to Spurs
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Reaction to Manchester United Match
00:00:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode episode of the daily Manchester United podcast. We are 20 minutes after the full-time whistle went in Bilbao tonight.
Disappointment and Season Reflection
00:00:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
I am joined by Tom Cairns. This is not a good evening. and This is not a good season, Tom. What's your initial reaction here?
00:00:30
Tom Cairns
I'm absolutely gutted, but I can't say that I'm surprised because this is an epitome of our season.
00:00:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:00:38
Tom Cairns
We have fallen so far away from where we needed to have been. Yes, we've done well to get to the final, and you know, getting past likes of Real Sociedad de Lyon, Athletic Bilbao of all teams, but I just don't know where the finesse had gone.
00:00:56
Tom Cairns
I just don't know where it's gone. And now we've faced in the summer where we don't know who's going to want come to United. And then the bigger picture of it all is where does that leave the club?
00:01:16
Tom Cairns
Where does it leave it?
00:01:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
you
00:01:17
Tom Cairns
I just don't know where we sit next season in a campaign next time out where...
Concerns for Manchester United's Future
00:01:25
Tom Cairns
We could have half of the Premier League playing in Europe and not one of those teams being us.
00:01:34
Tom Cairns
It is absolutely embarrassing, Niall. I cannot believe watching that game of football. It wasn't even a good game of football in general because from the moment Tottenham scored, I knew that they were going to camp in their own half for the remainder of that game.
00:01:53
Tom Cairns
This is like what happened in the FA Cup final seven years ago, where we lost to Chelsea. Gave away a penalty, Hazard scored it, and Chelsea counted in their own half for the remainder of the match.
00:02:04
Tom Cairns
Tottenham did exactly the same thing. They knew that the one goal was what they needed, and they didn't need to push. They created nothing in that second half. Whereas we piled on the pressure, but the quality just wasn't there.
Match Strategy Discussion
00:02:19
Tom Cairns
We had no quality in the final third at all. Did we deserve to lose tonight?
00:02:27
Tom Cairns
It's subjective, but I don't think we played well enough to win. Not in my book.
00:02:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, absolutely not. it's it it's yeah It's horrible. I'm just watching the scenes here, as Spurs lifting the cup. um I still have it on here just to kind of fuel the fuel the emotion even more for this for this episode. But coming into this game, I was very nervous and very scared about the outcome of it.
Emotional Investment in United
00:02:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
you know I was kind of relying on a better history a bit of bit of I suppose spursiness and a bit of United in the European final and kind of relying on this kind of notion that United will show up in a big game and somehow get over the line but you're just brought straight back to reality where like exactly like you said, it isn't surprising.
00:03:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like the, the standard of the football throughout the season has been horrific. You mentioned we didn't have any quality in the final third this evening, but it's been the case throughout the season.
00:03:33
Tom Cairns
you
00:03:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
the lack of goals, the lack of chances created, Once Dan So came on in the last 20 minutes, they went to a back five. You were like, what? There's no way we're going to get a goal here. Like there there'll be no gaps in behind.
00:03:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
We won't be able to kind of create anything to actually get a decent opportunity. And it was at that stage just kind of a ah ticking clock, I suppose, to the inevitable. And the best chance we had, and you were nearly clamoring for it earlier, was putting Maguire up front.
00:04:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that is the position we're in now, where that is the best chance we have of getting a goal. And it's not even a last ditch. It's a move now that we're using where we're putting him in with 15 minutes to go up front.
00:04:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it just kind of sums up the... the whole season really. And the reason why I was so nervous about the game beforehand is this is so much bigger than just a cup win or a cup competition.
00:04:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
It just sets the club back so far. it's ah It's going to add another few seasons on top of this somewhat kind of a hope of we're going to get back to to a position of power in the league. And it's just put...
00:04:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just added a couple of years onto that but with that result today. And I can't really see any different, Tom.
00:04:53
Tom Cairns
Now the pendulum swings, who's willing to stick around? That's what each of these Man Utd players need to answer for
Player Commitment and Club Attraction
00:05:01
Tom Cairns
themselves. Look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves, right, do I want to be a Manchester United player next season?
00:05:08
Tom Cairns
Consider we're not playing in Europe at all.
00:05:12
Tom Cairns
I can see Casemiro moving on.
00:05:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can't though, because they're on too much money, Tom.
00:05:14
Tom Cairns
I don't think
00:05:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
This is the issue. We can't get rid of them. they'll They'll happily stay for another couple of years, those guys that are on those big wages. And that's that's the issue. we We can't shift enough of these players to start again and to get that rebuild going. And yes, we won't be able to attract players now because we're not in Champions League football, but half the problem and more than half the problem is getting rid of so many players that are in this squad.
00:05:44
Tom Cairns
it just it begs the question, you know, are we ah an elite side now? I feel for those fans who have travelled all the way to Bilbo, especially those who have booked the hotels or were lucky not to even book a bed inside a prison, because i think there were some fans that were were lucky enough to pay, was it 400 quid for two nights, staying like a double bunk bed that would normally be used in a prison over in Bilbao.
00:06:13
Tom Cairns
And you've got even those sleeping on a bench because they couldn't get a hotel or a bed whatsoever.
00:06:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:20
Tom Cairns
And I feel like those fans have been, but don't want to say robbed, but real, real hard done by.
Fan Experience in Bilbao
00:06:30
Tom Cairns
That is not a Manchester United performance in a cup final.
00:06:35
Tom Cairns
That really is not. And those fans are going to heartbroken. They're absolutely going to be heartbroken. Now, some Man United fans may feel that Amarind needs to move on, but Amarind's not the problem.
00:06:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:06:51
Tom Cairns
What was Amarind supposed to do from the moment he walked in there in November? He didn't even want to join in November.
00:06:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:06:57
Tom Cairns
He wanted to join in the summer.
00:07:01
Tom Cairns
So how can you blame Amrim for just simply walking into an absolute mess, of which that was left over by St. Haag, who lost his job on the back of playing Anthony all the time, when he clearly wasn't fit for purpose for Manchester United anyway.
00:07:18
Tom Cairns
And now he's got a cup final of his own to come next week against Chelsea, where he could be lifting a trophy of his own, which will add even more insult to injury.
00:07:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
Responsibility and Outcomes
00:07:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. I don't blame Amram.
00:07:33
Tom Cairns
Thank
00:07:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's still down to the players. It's been the players for for years. i In a way, maybe this is revision history, but I don't even blame Ten Hag either. I think the issue is just way bigger. At some stage, you have to look at the players and go, the quality is just not there.
00:07:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And luck ran out, you know, that, that Leon game, you know, as a, as a fan was just incredible. Like that moment was just those five, six, seven minutes of madness where we got the two or three goals was absolutely mental, but You just knew today was inevitable.
00:08:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
one As you mentioned, when they went back into that low block, there was no way we were going to create you know those. you know Ali McCoy there was clamoring for Garnaccio coming out at halftime and praising him when he kind of took on his defender a couple of times.
00:08:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
if you're relying on um players like that coming off the bench, you know, Garnaccio and Xerxes was the big throw of the dice and you're looking and going, that's it, that's the best we have at the moment. And yes, the Man United badge is on the jersey, but the quality of player of what you'd expect of a Man United player is just, it's just not there. And and we've said that all season. And the only reason why I had any hope of coming into this game was because it was a final, relying on the history, being that kind of,
00:08:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
I suppose, was very optimistic United fan. But if you really take away all the emotion from it, Spurs are just a way better team. We spoke about it before, about the players that they have compared to United are just better if you were to come pick a combined team. So we're really facing the cold front of it now, I think, in after that final whistle this evening.
Looking Ahead to Villa Match
00:09:14
Tom Cairns
And how are the fans going to feel on Sunday Old Trafford?
00:09:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, sure. The excuse about the bad performances in the Premier League has been, well, at least we have the Europa League. So with that logic, we should have a great performance against Villa at the weekend, but I can see that being ah hammering, an absolute hammering. Villa going for a Champions League and us licking the wounds after this evening in Bilbao.
00:09:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
that That could get very ugly very quickly. And depending on who... who actually puts up their hand for a an United player and says, i want to play that game. It'll be interesting to see what team goes out.
00:09:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
that Amaran picks, is it going to be a similar team that played the final or is it going to be let's just play all the kids? I think I'd want those players that played tonight to step up and put in a performance.
00:10:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's at Old Trafford, isn't it? Or is it away from home?
00:10:06
Tom Cairns
Yes, it's Elstrapers.
00:10:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
At Old Trafford to round out this horrific season and thank the fans, I suppose, for the the commitment because I'm sure a lot of them that'll be in Old Trafford were at Bilbao tonight and As you mentioned, the game was absolutely horrendous. Like, you know, those people texting me that were neutrals as well going, why did I bother tuning into this game?
00:10:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, there was no no rhythm or no fluidity at all to it. Spurs won't care, but United should ah should have been able to rise to that performance tonight. And it just, it was absolutely miles off it, just like any league game we've had this year.
00:10:46
Tom Cairns
I can imagine the protests looming large over Old Trafford on Sunday. you know it on On days like this where nothing matters to United now going into the match, the fans are just going to pour and pour and pour into their sort of marches saying that it's time to sell the club because the DNA in the club is gone.
00:10:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm. For the only reason I don't know since they're very close, the most human normal only conscious. So I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:11:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sorry. Also, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:11:08
Tom Cairns
The Glazers showed no interest in making Manchester United a success. But I just, something's got to change.
00:11:19
Tom Cairns
No, something's got to change.
00:11:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:11:21
Tom Cairns
You know, we can't just carry on into next season. There's no excuse for us finishing 16th at the end of next season, given the fact that we are not playing in Europe at all.
00:11:32
Tom Cairns
That will get Amerim south. And I agree with what Stephen Howson said, that if he ended up finishing 9th in the league, I think he would go. he ended up finishing 10th in the league, think he would go.
00:11:45
Tom Cairns
And don't think even a cup, on top of finishing where we are in those particular positions, will be enough to keep the job. We have to learn what happened with Eriton Haag.
00:11:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep, exactly. Mm-hmm.
00:11:58
Tom Cairns
If we can't pick ourselves up next season, it's just going to be another
Impact of Lacking Champions League Football
00:12:06
Tom Cairns
dogged campaign. We aren't going to get the players that we need.
00:12:10
Tom Cairns
I mean, would Liam De Lapp want to join Manchester United now? Given that Newcastle, who had joined the race to sign him, you know, given the fact that Callum Wilson is probably going move on from Newcastle, he wants replace Wilson.
00:12:23
Tom Cairns
And Liam De Lapp is probably going to be the one that Newcastle are going to go for.
00:12:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:12:27
Tom Cairns
I can't see an eye game Liam De Lapp. Obviously, we know that Matthias Cunha, he's going to join Man United by the looks of it, regardless of what happened tonight. But if there's someone to be countered, Mateus Cunha could be the one to answer some of the questions, but most certainly not all of them.
00:12:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, absolutely. And tonight wasn't about the cup, like I mentioned at the start. It's the reason why, like I mentioned, I was so scared was because it was way more than that. It's the Champions League. It's the money.
00:12:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's the...
00:12:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
the the the situation at the club's in financially is just horrendous and this would have been such an important thing going into next season to have and like you said we can't get blinded by the trophies and you'd nearly rather we don't win a cup next year and finish way higher in the league because you know the 10 hag situation where you win a couple of trophies masks everything and in a way It's good that this win didn't happen tonight where it can mask such a horrendous season.
00:13:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
But then you have the knock-on effect of not having Champions League football and not being able to attract the players. So it is um it's a very low moment, I think, in there and being a fan of this club. And it's ah it's difficult to see...
00:13:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
to see a lot of positives going into next season in particular. We'll take a ah quick break here and we'll have to discuss some of the moments from, from this game this evening after this one.
Defensive Mistakes and Lack of Coherence
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
We mentioned that it was an extremely stop-start game, very scrappy, for a neutral horrendous. For us, it was just nerve-wracking until that first goal went in.
00:15:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
And there was a there was a cross in before that Richarlison played, and I was thinking, we should have got out and closed that down lot quicker. And the exact same thing happens again, where a ball comes in from the left-hand side,
00:15:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Masrawi just doesn't close out at all with any sort of urgency. Doesn't even actually, from from where he was, maybe almost 10, 5, 10 metres away from the ball, doesn't even put out a leg, but isn't sprinting, especially when you have four defenders behind you in a back five where we're pinned back in the box.
00:15:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
You do have the licence to go and press because you do have cover in behind. There's absolutely no excuse for it. And then it's a decent cross. Maguire leaves it. There's a mix-up in the box between Shaw and the goalkeeper.
00:15:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then does Brennan get a touch? I don't even know. He's going to claim that he did. It looked like he might have got a very, very faint touch to it. And Onana could have done better. I mean, Tom, you were messing in the group chat. You said just the defending and the chemistry was just all over the place.
00:16:14
Tom Cairns
It was just so sloppy to watch. just It's like a typical goal you would see on a Sunday lead pitch. um This is European final.
00:16:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:16:23
Tom Cairns
eraur of We were watching that. is' the kind of The cost didn't even go in with that amount of quality from Sardap, who put that in for Johnson to get a touch on it. It was a total mess of which neither Maguire or Shaw were able to deal with.
00:16:41
Tom Cairns
and the fact that Matsurari just couldn't defend it when he was supposed to close down Sarr, and you alluded to the fact that Matsurari just no showed no sense of urgency just put a leg out and stop that ball from going in the box.
00:16:55
Tom Cairns
That just sums up Manchester United's season and the way that they've defended
Systemic Changes Needed at United
00:16:59
Tom Cairns
and the lack of killer instincts.
00:16:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:17:02
Tom Cairns
some things have got to change for next season. Either the players have got to show that they care for the club, or maybe perhaps they do care, but the problem is they don't even realise that maybe virtually all of those players that we've got now are squad players at best.
00:17:22
Tom Cairns
We've hardly got world-class player in our side. Now, we will probably say that Bruno Fernandes, as good as he is, He kind of like sneaks in in between squad player and a world-class player.
00:17:36
Tom Cairns
But that's the best that we've got.
00:17:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, i mean, there's kind of a, there's somewhere in the middle there, but he's just under world class, I would say.
00:17:39
Tom Cairns
what
00:17:44
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:17:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's very, very good. He's excellent. But yeah, I agree and the in the world class category.
00:17:51
Tom Cairns
Do you remember those days when you wake up on a Saturday a Sunday and you always look forward to seeing Manchester United play? no but No matter who it is they go up against. or even on a Monday night, or even during the week when it's the Champions League, and you feel so relaxed about seeing Manchester United play you know in front of 75,000 or so at Old Trafford.
00:18:13
Tom Cairns
Those days are gone.
00:18:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:15
Tom Cairns
ah know we I know we've got to move at the times, but those we're nowhere near what we what we used to be. And it's a fact. And the Glazers...
00:18:29
Tom Cairns
have basically sucked the life, heart and soul out of the football club.
00:18:35
Tom Cairns
I just cannot begin feel...
00:18:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I was thinking, yeah.
00:18:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:18:40
Tom Cairns
I'm absolutely dejected, livid, quite frankly, that just can't enjoy those days anymore.
00:18:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Dejected is the word. I don't really know how to describe this emotion because I'm just kind of thinking of... Obviously, it's disappointing to lose this evening, but like I keep going back to, this is just extending the period of time where United can't get things back on track.
00:19:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
And everything was reliant on this because because of how bad the season was. It was nearly right. Let's just ignore that. Hopefully, we just get some glimmer of hope from this Europa League. And it's just so, so bad. And it's it's funny you mentioned about the good old days. Like, I mean, i do remember thinking back just...
00:19:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
They never really lost. Like, even though they did lose, you always felt like, yeah, but every game they're going to win. It's kind of like Liverpool this year and City over the last five years. You know, you go into the weekend going, oh yeah, they're going to win.
00:19:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, they'll they'll win as a guaranteed win. And to even get back competing with the Brentfords, Brighton, even Palace now in the league. Like, these teams, every time we came up and we did these reviews and we did these previews all year on this podcast,
00:19:54
Tom Cairns
you
00:19:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Every weekend it was, oh, it's going to be a tough one. Like, they can't all be tough, but they are because we're so poor and because we are that bad. And you're even looking at Liverpool-Brighton the last day, and I'm not even looking at Liverpool, I'm looking at Brighton, and I'm looking at the quality they have around the pitch.
00:20:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
and the organization of them and the pace of of play and the quality they have in wide areas and you know how technical their players are and how much they're all together and working in the same patterns of play. And this is Brighton.
00:20:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And United are absolutely nowhere near that. Nowhere near it. And one one transfer window won't help it. A change of manager won't help it. An influx of 200 million won't help it.
00:20:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's a whole kind of psyche change and it's multiple, multiple transfer windows. And it's a proper kind of project and dedicated to this project from academies through the first team. I don't know where to start with...
00:20:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
how to fix this. you know we we We mentioned when Sir Jim Radcliffe came in and when INEOS came in and those kind of big kind of hires, I suppose, in the in the boardroom thinking, okay, well, seems to be the right decisions going on here in terms of getting the right personnel in.
00:21:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
We haven't really seen much of an impact. When you look at their first first six to 12 months in there, there's been a lot of chopping and changing. um There's been a lot of back and forth as well between the people that they've hired and then got rid of.
00:21:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
They don't really seem to have everything under control in their own boardroom.
Concerns Over Club Leadership
00:21:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And as you mentioned, Amarim is only in the door with a bunch of players that are bang average, trying to play an unorthodox system compared to what every other team plays at the moment.
00:21:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And ah really, really i'm struggling to find some something to hold on to going into this summer and going into next season, Tom.
00:21:55
Tom Cairns
We only need a couple of months to really digest everything, don't we? I mean, to be honest, how we've already digested enough, as we have done. But we're going into into the next season. I mean, now that we're not playing in Europe at all, we're in the second round of the League Cup, aren't we? We don't even earn that buy into the and round three.
00:22:14
Tom Cairns
Remember MK Dons? Yeah, I thought so.
00:22:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:17
Tom Cairns
um
00:22:21
Tom Cairns
This is going to be a long summer. You've got Chelsea and Man City who are playing in the FIFA Club World Cup, the revamped version of it. Those two are bound to get players at which they need for next season.
00:22:34
Tom Cairns
Rodri, who came back last night for the first time, i think, since September when he got that, was it an ACL injury that left him out for a long time?
00:22:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:22:44
Tom Cairns
City needed him and they'll be happy that he's back. Whereas in terms of the leverage we have, well, what leverage have we got? If we had the leverage of which the likes of Man City and Chelsea have, we'd be easily in the top half the table at the very, very minimum.
00:23:04
Tom Cairns
We're 16th.
00:23:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:23:06
Tom Cairns
And we could it could well be 17th by the time the game against Villa is over. And I'm worried about what next season is going to bring because obviously we've got the likes of Leeds,
00:23:18
Tom Cairns
Burnley and either Sheffield United or Sunderland, you know, bound to go up.
00:23:25
Tom Cairns
Can you imagine if we finish below Leeds in the table? That's going to hurt if if that been if that ends up being the case. There's no excuse for finishing 16th in the table.
00:23:38
Tom Cairns
With the squad of players that we've got,
00:23:44
Tom Cairns
There's just got to be a ah change of ah change of identity within the football club. And there's zero right but now.
00:23:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I said it earlier on, when when you're looking at United, if you take away the badge and you take away kind of the history, et cetera, and you look at the actual, just the raw players on the pitch,
00:24:03
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Like, should we be doing much better based on the squad we have? Like, are we are we completely overhyping some of these players? Not not this year, but maybe maybe going into the season, we were very optimistic, probably blinded by the FA Cup result as well. Like last year was a very poor season as well. But, you know, when you when you compare it and you start to do combined 11s with teams you're playing at the weekend and stuff,
00:24:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
are they really that good? um And are they good enough to get us back to where we need to be? And I think that the questions have been answered this year. Like, and you can say that we had a couple of injuries, but every team has injuries and it didn't really affect us that much, to be honest.
00:24:35
Tom Cairns
Thank
00:24:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like we were still rubbish when we had other players anyway. So it's, it's It's a difficult one to kind of put your finger on. It's just... It's funny you mention Leeds as well. i was thinking about this during the season.
00:24:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, could United turn into a bit of a Leeds where...
00:25:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
you have a really successful club that was dominant for years and just mismanaged and then just falls down the football tiers. I mean, United have no right to be in the Premier League more than anyone else.
00:25:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
If we're finishing 16th this year, we don't have anything to strive for in terms of leverage, as you mentioned, in terms of getting good players in, good top quality players in to bring us up that table.
00:25:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
The main competitors we had down there were Spurs. Spurs are after getting that leverage this evening.
00:25:34
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:25:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
The teams below us, they're going down. Three new teams coming in, chomping at the bit, thinking, yeah, we could have a cut at United, definitely. Look at Southampton this year. We beat them twice. Both games, you know, the first game, they missed a penalty, and then we won 3-0. It was pretty ropey up until that.
00:25:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then the second game, we should have lost, and Ahmad just turned into a bit of magic for the last 10 minutes. There's no team where you're thinking, yeah, that's an easy win. And that's not going to change next season now.
00:26:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that really, really concerns me. um And that is why tonight, I can't hide how important tonight was, not for the cup win, but for the money and for the Champions League, which is quite a sad thing to say as a fan, but it's the stark reality of Tom.
00:26:27
Tom Cairns
We're going to go into every single game next season, you know, once every week, just praying we come away with a positive result. yeah yeah I remember 2014-15 season we were just waiting for an age for the match to arrive.
00:26:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:26:43
Tom Cairns
And you don't really know what kind of team is going to turn up and perform. 2025-26 is going to be a repeat of it, but it's going to be even worse than what it was back then in 2014-15.
00:26:58
Tom Cairns
That season we finished four. We got to the quarterfinals of the FA Cup and we were knocked out by MK Dons in the League Cup in round two.
00:27:08
Tom Cairns
We just can't feel... We can't feel confident going into next season at all because, yeah, I could maybe agree with what it's saying. You know, it's hard to move these players on.
00:27:20
Tom Cairns
The wage bill is too lucrative to see them.
00:27:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh-huh.
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:24
Tom Cairns
But it's the owner's responsibility to look into that and think which players need to be moved on, which are not. And the thing is with the Glazers, that they're not football people. They have no form of expertise about...
00:27:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:27:37
Tom Cairns
football whatsoever. i mean, Edward, would who was there a few years back before he's left now, thankfully, he always felt he knew more than anyone else. you you know He wasn't a David Gill.
00:27:50
Tom Cairns
He wasn't a Martin Edwards who had a football mentality in regards to who they knew needed to be brought in and Sir Alex knew who he needed to bring in, aligning with what the owners wanted.
00:28:06
Tom Cairns
That's why we were successful before the Glazers had arrived. The reason why we were successful in the first eight years of the Glazers tenure was because the players we had, most of which were signed before the Glazers took over, you know, the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Wayne Rooney.
00:28:23
Tom Cairns
um
00:28:26
Tom Cairns
Those type of players, really.
00:28:29
Tom Cairns
Now... We're only good enough to sign low knees. We signed Patrick Doggy from Lecce. He has been oppressive, and I do rate him. But he's a squad player.
00:28:42
Tom Cairns
He's not a world-class player.
00:28:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. And we're relying on him. Like, I think he is good. But like tonight we were like really relying on him to to produce something. And then I go back to the bench, you know, you're you're looking for a bit of spark and you have Xerxes, Garnaccio and Dallow coming on.
00:29:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like it just, yeah, it just epitomizes where we are. Like there's just not, they're just, we just don't have, we just don't have the quality. And the annoying thing is even though we have no leverage, which actually, actually adds into it more like United always overpay for players.
00:29:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, we have a Garte. I don't know how much he was 55, 60 million sitting on the bench. I think in my opinion, deservedly but we have to pay 56 a million for people that are okay and have to sit on the bench like and we need to buy world-class players to even get back up the table and it's just it's just it just won't be fixed you know the kind of line that's been saying this year is well amram doesn't have his players yet once amram has his players and it's like but like how many is he gonna get also
00:29:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah surely he should be getting something out of these players as well.
Long-term Project for Club Recovery
00:29:53
Tom Cairns
you
00:29:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But I don't know. I think the the issue is too big to fix in a year. It's just, as I said, push it out further and further. And I'm just, yeah, it's ah it's pretty bleak.
00:30:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
um We'll take one quick break here and then we'll we'll try and go through maybe some of the player performances from this evening, Tom.
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00:30:43
Tom Cairns
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think instead of going through the player performances, should we do a bit of an in-out of the players?
00:31:02
Tom Cairns
yeah
00:31:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:31:03
Tom Cairns
yeah
00:31:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Since we're kind of, if we were in control of player contracts, I suppose, um regardless of what the reality is of being able to shift players, not being able to shift players, what would you actually go with? I mean, first of all, Onana, Tom?
00:31:26
Tom Cairns
I'd probably maybe give him one more season but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they signed another goalkeeper just to help give him some competition and wake him up a little bit. That would be what United should think about but the priority is more on the attacking line rather than just pointing the finger at Onana.
00:31:45
Tom Cairns
His flexes aren't great
00:31:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:47
Tom Cairns
that that's the issue with him. And I think tonight was another example of that, even though I don't blame him entirely for the goal.
00:31:54
Tom Cairns
the eighty If that was Van Tassau or De Gea even, Gea would have pounded that weight.
00:31:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, his his his arms seem short. like Pickford gets a lot of abuse for it, but he seems like he can never reach the ball when it's in the corners or when it's kind of slightly off-center, and he seems to be diving...
00:32:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
nearly as if he's lagging, like he's one second behind it because he always has a big dramatic dive. But I don't think there was too much he could have done for this evening's goal, but it just looked messy and looked like he probably could have, and a better keeper probably could have parried it away at some stage.
00:32:19
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:32:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I would agree. i would definitely want us to sign a goalkeeper um to put pressure on him and eventually take it over from him. I think Fein is a number two. i don't think he'd suit being a number two. I don't think he'd like it.
00:32:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think his personality would would be good for it, but in an ideal scenario, he probably leaves when we bring someone in. Yarrow, I thought he was really good tonight.
00:32:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
um I really like him, and I like him for the future.
00:32:54
Tom Cairns
take
00:32:56
Tom Cairns
He didn't have a bad game, to be fair, I didn't think, Jorre. I think he was kind of... Yeah, I don't think had a bad game at all.
00:33:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
no uh mcguire i think he's come on a lot of criticism over the years i think he's really stepped up actually he's playing with so much like maturity and like as if he doesn't care anymore with anyone things because he used to kind of you could see it kind of got to him but he's just kind of he's gone through the absolute mill or through the ringer with abuse and i think the last six months he's actually been been been pretty good considering how bad we've been so i would i would keep
00:33:34
Tom Cairns
I'd keep him for now, given that we've got quite a plethora of centre-halves, and i think Maguire earns his place to be in a lot of those games.
00:33:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:42
Tom Cairns
So, yeah, I'd say you keep him for now.
00:33:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Shaw.
00:33:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do you think?
00:33:52
Tom Cairns
He needs to go. He's done. I think this performance tonight was just short of where he once was.
00:33:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree.
00:33:59
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:34:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. He's just a shell of a player. Like...
00:34:04
Tom Cairns
you
00:34:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's just never fit. he so He wasn't fit this evening either. um Obviously, he nearly got that goal at the end, but... No, just way off it. I think his time's up. um Yeah.
00:34:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mizrahi has been good this season, but I was really disappointed with... Yeah.
00:34:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
how spurs defended like absolute dogs not in the center but on the on the flanks united were
00:34:40
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:34:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
constantly passing it over and back trying to get some space to get across in just killing the clock completely And you have to put those hard yards in, you know, shutting down angles for crosses, for Ahmad, for Dallow, for Garnaccio, for Shaw, constantly going over and back.
00:34:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
How he can't rush the defender in the 30th minute, 40th minute of the game, there's just no excuse for it. So I was disappointed this evening, but maybe as a squad player, we should keep him.
00:35:10
Tom Cairns
Well, yeah, well we have to keep him because, yeah, he had a stinker a again tonight. But there have been a lot of games where I think he has actually turned up. So let's let's not use tonight as a bit of an emphasis of his season because it's not.
00:35:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:23
Tom Cairns
He just didn't turn up when it mattered. But I'd keep Mats Rari.
00:35:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. He has been one of our better players this year. You are right. um Dallo.
00:35:35
Tom Cairns
I think overall he's had a poor season, hasn't he?
00:35:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:38
Tom Cairns
I think there's only been a few games at at most where I thought he actually put in quite a decent performance. I think because we're lacking in options, I'd keep him.
00:35:49
Tom Cairns
Because we have been playing Mastrari in centre-half. We're also having Delo as the right wing-back. And I think you need to continue having that until you know you can get someone that's better than either of them.
00:36:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
I would say go but then who do you bring in that's that's the question um I just don't exactly yeah I mean I just Muno's from Crystal Palace recency bias but like I mean ah just nowhere near where we need to be to go to get back to where we need to be um so I would say i would say go Dargu we mentioned he's only 20
00:36:08
Tom Cairns
Who do you get to replace him? Yeah.
00:36:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he tries really hard. He's a decent touch. He made some good tackles this evening as well. And I think since he's come in, he's done decent. Like I think there's, he's been thrown into the deep end um with no way of protection. So I would say keep as a, as a squad player.
00:36:45
Tom Cairns
I do as well. I don't think Dogu needs to be moved on anywhere. I think he's only had six months to really gel into a Manchester United system, which I don't think was exactly... yeah ah don't know how you compare to how he played for Lecce, but Dogu, I think, is one of our better players.
00:37:00
Tom Cairns
And as a left wing back, we were were so desperate for a left wing back to fill in for sure because we kept playing Dello in that left wing back world and he was absolutely garbage to watch there.
00:37:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:10
Tom Cairns
So the fact we signed Dogu, who's a more designated...
00:37:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:14
Tom Cairns
recognised, left wing back, we need to keep him.
00:37:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Casemiro.
00:37:23
Tom Cairns
I know you said that you would keep him. He had a woeful start of the season.
00:37:29
Tom Cairns
I think it depends if there are any offers from Saudi Arabia. and That's the way I look at it. Because we need we need to build for the future. You know, Casemiro can't stay in the at the club forever. And the thing is, he has the highest wage bill out any Manchester United player that's there right now.
00:37:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
this is the issue like we we won't be able to shift them um And he's going to run ah he's going to run out of his contract 100%. I mean, rightly so, but it's just an extortion to amount of money. um And he's you're right, he's not the future of the club. but He has been putting in good performances in the Europa League, but like he he needs to go at some stage. We need to start building up this midfield again because it really has never been never been replaced properly.
00:38:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Ugarte, I'm not a fan. I've never been a fan.
00:38:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know. I would i would get rid.
00:38:30
Tom Cairns
Really?
00:38:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:38:31
Tom Cairns
I wouldn't. I think Ugarte would settle in nicely. you know If you end up losing Casemiro, you need to make sure you keep Ugarte. I think Ugarte has actually been alright in that defensive midfield role. I know he hasn't always had the best of games, but...
00:38:46
Tom Cairns
I think he actually does try to perform and actually does put in the effort. I do agree that he is a squad player at best right now, but I definitely wouldn't get rid of him.
00:38:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:38:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, i've i kind I made up my mind earlier on him and I've kind of just stuck with it. um But anyway, who else? Maynou.
00:39:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know where he plays. I don't know what position he plays anymore. ah In a 4-2-3-1, I thought I knew in one of those kind of two midfield positions.
00:39:17
Tom Cairns
Keep. Keep.
00:39:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now I don't know with this new system. I have no idea where he fits in.
00:39:26
Tom Cairns
Well, I definitely wouldn't get rid of him. I definitely wouldn't get rid of him.
00:39:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:39:29
Tom Cairns
I think he's someone who can ah can try and make things happen, especially when he comes off the bench. We knew he wasn't going much fit. We could be Maynard. But I think he's someone that needs to stick around for a little bit longer just to see where he can actually settle into the system.
00:39:47
Tom Cairns
Because I don't know Amarim is going to sign other than Mateus Cunha that we know of at the time of recording.
00:39:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, I do think i do think he he will and he should focus on the two deeper midfielders because the the the profile player of Cunha will play in the number 10.
00:40:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think Maynou is athletic enough actually to play in that position in terms of the amount of running off the ball with the ball you need to be, run out to the wing, play in the pockets as well.
00:40:10
Tom Cairns
Keep. I
00:40:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he's... he's more comfortable when he's kind of playing the game when it's in front of him and at his own pace. So I think, yeah, he, he should hopefully settle into those deeper of the two positions.
00:40:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
um
00:40:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mount.
00:40:36
Tom Cairns
keep
00:40:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
I like Mount.
00:40:39
Tom Cairns
ah da I'd definitely give him one more season at the at minimum to see how...
00:40:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
He needs a run of games. Doesn't he just see how.
00:40:47
Tom Cairns
needs a run of games, and I think if he has a run of games, we can sit start to see the amount of what we saw from him when he was at Chelsea.
00:40:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:40:55
Tom Cairns
But given the restricted amount of options we've got, it'd be silly to get rid of Mount now.
00:41:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. um Bruno.
00:41:06
Tom Cairns
Keep, 100%. hundred some I don't think that's a question, really, is it?
00:41:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Ahmad.
00:41:11
Tom Cairns
Keep.
00:41:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep. Garnacho.
00:41:15
Tom Cairns
Kate. Really?
Player Performance and Sales
00:41:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think I'd keep Garnacho if I got a decent offer.
00:41:18
Tom Cairns
really
00:41:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I don't think so. I think anything I'd say 40 mil I would get rid of Garnacho if an offer came in for 40 mil.
00:41:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
35, 40 mil maybe. um i think I think we've seen enough. like I don't know. think I had the hopes that... I think Ahmad has played less, got less opportunities and has just done so much more than Garnacho in the games he's played.
00:41:50
Tom Cairns
Thank you.
00:41:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we do have limited options on the left-hand side. I get that. But if I'm kind of taking that away and I'm thinking Cunha's playing next year, Garnacho's just going to be a squad player and... I'd rather get money from kind of ah someone buying him for a potential, I suppose, um because i I don't know. I don't really see it.
00:42:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But I can understand you looking to keep him as well.
00:42:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who else we have? Xerxes.
00:42:22
Tom Cairns
I'd give him one more season because think he needs to start over Highland now in these games, heading into the next season. I want to see what he can actually do.
00:42:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think if we sign a striker or maybe two strikers in the summer, i think as his third striker, yeah, a squad player, he's good. it's It's so frustrating, the rotation between him and Hoyland this year.
00:42:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's like Hoyland plays well ah off the bench. Xerxes starts, doesn't play well. And then the opposite happened. And then they just kept switching in and out the whole season.
00:42:52
Tom Cairns
you
00:42:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
But even when he came on this evening, like his touch is just so much better than Hoyland. And playing in that system when you have runners in behind, it was brilliant. like That one decent chance we got for Bruno's header, the ball goes in.
00:43:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Xerxes plays it first time. uh in first time masrawi and masrawi crossed it in for bruno to have a diving header at goal his touch was just so much better hoyland was just taking three four touches when you just don't get it so um yeah i like him as a footballer i just don't know i don't know if he can if he can start for united next season uh but i would keep him hoyland
00:43:33
Tom Cairns
should Tata, is what I'd say.
00:43:38
Tom Cairns
It's just... i'd make If it means sending him out on loan, then so be it. But he is just he just does not bring qualities of Manchester United striker into there. He's probably one of the worst strikers I think Manchester have ever had.
00:43:54
Tom Cairns
Because he doesn't control the ball very well. He can't pass the ball.
00:43:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
no
00:44:00
Tom Cairns
And it's just his lack of awareness. whenever he's on the ball, he's nowhere near confident.
00:44:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I feel like I've given him a lot of chances. like i had a whole We had a whole chat about Howland, we seem to have a chat about Howland quite a lot, actually, about maybe not getting consistent service. doesn't really know where the ball is going to be, but...
00:44:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
he always seems to be fighting with the defender in terms of like fighting for position, never seems to be in control of what he's doing. And then he always seems to be like a second late to the ball. You know, he's, I was just there.
00:44:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I was like, at some stage, you've got to be there, like when the ball is is coming in. And it just happens way too, way, way too frequent, I think. And yeah, if he's your third striker, fair enough. But in terms of like, if we're relying on him, not a hope, like what we're we're going nowhere, like like we've seen this year.
00:44:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who else do we have?
00:44:53
Tom Cairns
got Witsa Lindelof.
00:44:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, surely he's going, is he? No.
00:44:57
Tom Cairns
Yeah, I can't see him sticking around.
00:44:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:59
Tom Cairns
Johnny Evans will be moving on. Christian Eriksen.
00:45:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, he's leaving as well.
00:45:04
Tom Cairns
I think he's leaving, yeah.
00:45:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Um...
00:45:11
Tom Cairns
And we've got Chida Roby, who I think is destined to feature a lot next season. I think...
00:45:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
i'd hope I hope not because I hope we're actually signing a striker. like but
00:45:25
Tom Cairns
I agree with that, Niall, but who are United going to sign that the no that's going to align with the number of goals?
00:45:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know. and This is the issue now. This is the reality. yeah
00:45:40
Tom Cairns
I would give Chiderebe some games to see how he can do. But I do agree we need to sign a striker, but then you've got someone like Chiderebe who can come on and make things happen.
00:45:54
Tom Cairns
if you can get a lot of game time, particularly like maybe in the cup games or whatever, we've got someone who can actually make things happen and actually contribute in a more positive fashion.
00:46:05
Tom Cairns
Whereas if we and end up splashing out 70 million quid on the striker, who happens to be a similar feat to what Rasmus Hoyland has ended up in the in the last couple of seasons, really, it's it's just going to be deja vu.
00:46:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:46:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I know. I get that. I get that. And we don't really have that to be thrown around, I suppose. But I just i don't i haven't seen enough to be convinced at all that he can start matches in the Premier League next year for us if we're trying to get back. But we're we're limited options. I mean, we have to face the reality now after
Goalkeeping Concerns and Improvements
00:46:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
tonight's results. like we're We have no leverage, as you as you keep saying, and you're dead right.
00:46:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who else we have in that squad, Tom? Do we need touch on?
00:46:46
Tom Cairns
I'll tie Bayadier, goalkeeper.
00:46:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, if he's doing keeper training sessions with Tom Heaton, I have no issue with him being at the club. like But in terms of playing, no. And I don't like our goalkeeper options at the moment, to be honest.
00:47:06
Tom Cairns
I don't either. And I think he's proven that he's just not the standards of what Maniyah needs to be. i mean is no you know He's not a Thomas Kuszczak-type goalkeeper who is not world-class but can actually put in a decent performance.
00:47:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:22
Tom Cairns
I mean, I remember Thomas Kuszczak when he saved Gilberto's penalty when we played Arsenal all those years back at Old Trafford.
00:47:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:31
Tom Cairns
um Or even Ben Foster, when you know when Ben Foster was over at Old Trafford for a period of time.
00:47:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:47:38
Tom Cairns
Bayern Dier is not even to that standard. of what Ben Foster was when he was there. And maybe not even... It's what our third goalkeeper was. And our third goalkeeper, for a little bit, was Tom Heaton, of all players.
00:47:53
Tom Cairns
But I just... There just needs to be... There's just too many players who are supplusting requirements there, and it just feels like we have to hold on to them.
00:48:04
Tom Cairns
And so we just say yeah bye-bye to them, and allow them to... you know, retire or head out to another club on a free.
00:48:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
couple of interesting ones to finish with Anthony
00:48:18
Tom Cairns
Get ready. He's done.
00:48:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
i hope i hope he wins that call I hope he wins that cup I hope he scores the winning goal and someone comes in even just for half of what we paid 45 someone comes in with 45 how low would the fee have to be Tom for you to say yes on the Anthony deal for him to go somewhere
00:48:42
Tom Cairns
I mean, how much did we pay for him? it eighty Was it was it 90?
00:48:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
ninety
00:48:49
Tom Cairns
Would do well so he can get 25.
00:48:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
90. 20 for him?
00:48:57
Tom Cairns
I think to move him on, yeah, I would do. And then just gets him off our wage bill.
00:49:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's rough.
00:49:04
Tom Cairns
Yeah, it's rough, but
00:49:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
um it's right Yeah, you can take what you get. Sancho?
00:49:08
Tom Cairns
yeah.
00:49:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
um sancho
00:49:12
Tom Cairns
Move him on. His attitude stinks.
00:49:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, i do I think he'll struggle for A-Club next year, to be honest. Like, he's been poor at Chelsea as well. So, I i don't know.
00:49:25
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:49:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
And finally, and and know we're almost at 15 minutes and it's late and it's been a depressing evening, but Rashford.
00:49:36
Tom Cairns
I wouldn't allow him back into it. I'm fed up with his... You know, it's just his off-field stuff when he's allowed himself to get into the headlines, into the paparazzi and all that, when he was due to be training with the squad and even playing matches and all he's doing is, you know, making trips over to Belfast or over into the US and just making a name of himself for the wrong reasons.
00:49:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
The circus around it.
00:50:02
Tom Cairns
And I'm fed up with it. I'm fed up, you know, if Sir Alex was around and I knew that players were doing that, He wouldn't hang around. He'd just say to them, we've accepted an offer from whoever and you'll be going.
00:50:19
Tom Cairns
And even, I think Teddy Showingham said this on a podcast once. I think both he and Dwight York went to play some golf on a Thursday.
00:50:31
Tom Cairns
And Sorrelis found out that the pair of the moon playing golf, even if it's just at their local golf course in Manchester somewhere, he would find them a week's wages each.
00:50:43
Tom Cairns
I don't know if that was a a joke or whatever, but it feels genuine when you think of it.
00:50:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:50:48
Tom Cairns
He doesn't mess around when players are doing activities like that. because he Because they know. He knows that if anyone sees them, they can record them on the phones and you know put it out to the yeah the press and all that.
00:51:02
Tom Cairns
He was very good scrutinising that, did Sir Alex. We don't have that anymore. So Marcus Rastrow, for me, his time is up and he needs to be moved on.
00:51:16
Tom Cairns
It just depends. Are Aston Villa willing to pay salary? Are they willing to pay, know, 20, 30 odd mil or whatever?
00:51:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
no
00:51:28
Tom Cairns
um' I'm fed up with it.
Rashford's Future with the Club
00:51:30
Tom Cairns
And if you if you are thinking about getting a new contract, I don't know how many years he's got's got left on his contract. Do not give him a new contract or offer a new one.
00:51:39
Tom Cairns
If you have to let it run out, let it run out and don't renew it. Because I'm fed up of the way Marcus Rashford has been acting in recent years for Manchester United.
00:51:51
Tom Cairns
The fact that he didn't go to the Euros with the England squad should have been a wake-up call to him.
00:51:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
yep
00:51:58
Tom Cairns
And he hasn't recovered from that since then.
00:52:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely. And that time that, you know, Amram left Garnacho and Rashford out,
00:52:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
It wasn't a personal thing with leaving Rashford and Garnaccio out because you've seen that Garnaccio got back in a few weeks later. that Has started matches since, has come on in big games since. It's back to normal now. he He kind of sucked it up, kind of realized that whatever was happening in train, that they weren't up to the level and fought their way back into Amram.
00:52:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rashford, you looked to him as one of the leaders at United and you were like, right, United are going through difficult spell. Like, we're looking at you... And like now it's kind of all fallen on Bruno. But we're looking at you as well, Marcus, to kind of drag the club back up again here and you know go and kick on in the Europa League and go and try and get it back up the table. And it just never happened.
00:52:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it probably is the right time to to move. I think the issue the the wage is going to be a big issue. like um I saw reports around it that he's not willing to take a wage cut, which is fine.
00:53:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's That's fine. But it's more that limits your clubs that you can go to. And it also limits the leagues you can go to as well because probably no one in the primary league is going to pay that. No one in Europe can really pay that either.
00:53:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
um In the Italian league, they can't. In the German league, they can't. In Spain, they can't, but only at Barcelona or Real Madrid, and he's not going to either of them. So it is like America or Saudi. And is is he is he ready to go to America and Saudi already? You know, is that is that what's happened?
00:53:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that's the only kind of reality I see where he keeps the same wage he had has or increases it. um But yeah, I think it's time to go and we just need to move on. But as we mentioned, when we're going through that for the last 10 minutes or so, there is so much...
00:53:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
so many players to move on and the reality is we just won't be able to move that many on and not be able to bring that many in and this is going to take an even longer time than if we had won this evening and not that if we had won it would have fixed everything but it it might have expedited it slightly but this is nearly put us back another year or so so We'll leave it there, Tom, because we could be chatting about this for all evening.
Reflection on the Season and Upcoming Matches
00:54:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And we both want to go to bed. So there'll be, I'm sure, a few more episodes coming up this season. Obviously, we have we have the Villa game at the weekend. We'll have the other lads on other episodes. I'm sure...
00:54:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
laying their emotions on the table in terms of how the season's gone, how the final went, and then preview and review of the Villa game. But Tom, thanks very much for joining me. It's ah not easy to come on after watching an awful game, but also an awful game that your team losing in such a big game. So yeah, thanks for joining and we'll see you in the next one.