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Speaker: We put our walls down to each other there and it was awesome. Most people think surrogacy is only about bringing a baby into the world, but what can often get overlooked are the relationships that make that journey possible.
Speaker: Nick is an intended father. Bailey is the husband of his surrogate. What started as two families coming together for a shared goal became something neither family expected because both were willing to lead with trust.
Speaker: This is not transactional. This is personal. If you can't develop a personal relationship with someone that is curing your child and you're not willing to your heart to them. they're sharing what they've learned about trust, communication, supporting their spouses, and how opening their hearts turned a surrogacy journey into family.
Speaker: journey you know It started, it was just another like surrogacy journey match, but it's turned into a friendship and ultimately family really fast. What do you think made that happen?
Speaker: I don't know. I mean, even on like our first match meeting and stuff like that, like when we talked and just like the way, i don't know, like our personalities match like right off the bat. And like, I have a very, very, very outgoing personality. I can attest to this, but yeah.
Speaker: I'm myself around everybody and some people get it and some people don't. And Nick just immediately caught on and he was just like, he gave it back to me. And at that point I was like, okay, this dude's going to be cool. We're going to be able to get along and, and, you know, shoot the crap back and forth with each other and do our thing. And obviously at that point, you know, we started communicating when I would reply. um Sure. And,
Speaker: Yeah, yeah i mean, we just we just clicked, like honestly. like I think the hardest part for both of us is like we live so far away from each other because if not, we'd literally be at each other's places twenty four seven nick from your perspective, did did you expect the journey to become more than just simply this shared goal of working towards a baby?
Speaker: I just kind of rock with life. um When life you know comes, I just kind of rock with whatever's going on. So you know whatever happens, happens. I know kind of one of the questions we were asked in this whole thing, know.
Speaker: you know, what is your expectation this? know, are you expecting to, you know, build a friendship? Are you expecting to not build one? this going to be more transactional for you? Like when Laura and were talking about it, we were just like, it's one of those that we want the other family to feel comfortable with whatever that means. So we're open to any side of it.
Speaker: If they're wanting to be transactional, like, cool, no pressure, but they're wanting friendship, you We're friendly. We'd be like friends. ah But yeah, i' would say, just kind of piggyback off what Bailey was saying, I feel like we both have personalities that just kind of dive into the awkward.
Speaker: um So if there's like our wi something... Yeah, i just but we ignore the nonsense. We ignore the ah perfunctory rules that you know are just supposed to be there.
Speaker: That, you know, we're supposed to go on three dates before, you know, you actually shake hands or whatever. yeah It's one of those that we just dive into the awkward. To kind of give an example, when we were up in Illinois here just...
Speaker: about a month ago now uh the doctor walks in and he sees four people sitting in a room where there's no one or two sure he's like so who is everybody and i'm like i'm nick and he's like okay hi nick who are you i'm like i'm the baby daddy and then they and then uh alex is like yeah i'm the mom and baby gets up and goes yeah i'm the husband so the doctor was just like what's going on here. Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker: I love it. Well, I feel like that really is one of the greatest parts of the Sir AC journey for the spouses. Yeah, yeah. No, it's always fun to just like talk to people and explain it to them because at first they're, you know, they're always like, okay, what's this dynamic? What's going on? How does this work? You got to go through the process, explain everything to them and they're like,
Speaker: Oh my God, that's amazing. That's so cool. And, but again, going back to what Nick just said, we like to have fun with it sometimes with people as well. So that makes it even more fun. No, a hundred percent.
Speaker: As you guys were starting, how did each of you see your role in this journey? Like you're the support person for Alex, of course, but now obviously your relationship has evolved with, you know, Nick Bailey, like how has that changed?
Speaker: I will be straight up honest. The relationship that me and Nick have is if Nick was to text me right now and say, Hey, I need you to come to Dallas. I need you to help me with this. I would catch a flight and I would be there for him. And even though they are 10, 14 hours away, you still are able to understand like, okay, the connection I have with this individual is not just like what you said, transactional or, you know, anything of that sort. It's literally like they are a part of our family now. And
Speaker: I would do anything for him. And, you know, we we communicate as much as we can. And Nick will attest to this and so will Lauren, but I'm not the best at replying to text or anything like that. So like, that with your speaking you're yeah, you're selling that one, man. Yeah. You have to call me on the phone and talk to me or else I'm nowhere. I get more test responses from you than I detect. Correct. We do. Yeah. We play a lot of chess online. I love it.
Speaker: But no, like honestly, one person the support role for, for them is literally like, I would do anything for them. And I stand by that. And I always will like, ni's Nick's not the kind of guy to me that like, and i and we have going back to the same thing. It's like our personality wise, like if I upset him in some way or if he upset me in some way, like we would be able to communicate that with each other. And then literally we could be over it. Like it's nothing like, so we just say what's there.
Speaker: Like, yeah, we're not going to ignore the elephant in the room. Like, well, we're not supposed to talk about the elephant. Yeah. Talk about the elephants there. Do it. Go. Again, it just goes back to our personalities. We're both so laid back and just live life and just go with the flow that we're, I think we're just, we're perfect for each other. For me, the cool part that made it easy was ah like from the second we picked them up from the airport, the very, food our literal first time meeting, not like digitally meeting, but meeting in person.
Speaker: It was, the way I can describe it I have a friend back in Austin that, I haven't seen in years, like 10 years kind of thing. And I just recently went his wedding and it was like, it was 10 years ago. Nothing had changed. Even though like only text here there, don't really hang out talk that much, but it was just, you know, nothing had changed. There was no awkwardness. It was just, you me seeing my old friend.
Speaker: It felt like that friend you hadn't seen in 10 years. Like they got in the car and it was like, I've known these people for 10 years. Like it just all of a sudden had that feeling of just linking back up with an old friend and picking where you left off. And even though there was no past relationship. So I know you guys keep saying it's like a personality thing and things like that, but ultimately, and you know, Bailey, you kind of are, have touched on a little bit, but i mean, you guys have like, what do you think was the thing that helped create this level of trust and connection that the two of you have?
Speaker: we're superior to these. ah Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to say it was Alex and Lauren because their relationship before the match even happened, it was there and they had communicated and talked and You know, i don't... Honestly, I don't remember if me and Nick had communicated at that point. But the way Alex would explain Nick to me, and I don't know if Lauren explained me to Nick, but just having them so close and talking and having that relationship before, it kind of gave me like a... Because obviously that's... Alex is my girl. You know what i mean? Like I trust her. I trust her decision-making. And if she says like this...
Speaker: this lauren is amazing i love her you know and so at that point it's like okay well nick is her husband so i want to get to know him and i want to see you know how our relationship will be and i mean that's pretty much what you know got me and nick to be as connected as we are like we wouldn't be if it wasn't for them so I mean, going back to it, I mean, they're pretty much the reason why, you know, me and Nick are where we're at and how we're able to have the relationship that we do.
Speaker: But I think what I'm hearing you say from this, though, is that for you, the investment that you put in to getting to know Nick was was worth it and important to you because that's not necessarily the case for everybody.
Speaker: oh absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I could have just been like, you know, like, cool, Nick is Nick. going to see him when the baby comes out and that's it. Well, and i think, so there there's something we're kind of skipping over because it's pretty soon, but think it's important to acknowledge somebody else is having your child or you are having someone else's child, right? This is not a impersonal thing. This is not transactional. Although some people try to see it that way and make it that it's not. And if you look at it like that, one, you're robbing yourself of so many things, but two, that's, you're actually creating more work for yourself because you're,
Speaker: this is a personal thing so you're having to ignore these personal items these personal things you're trying to ignore this person that is going through something whether it be the person carrying the baby or the person that can't and i think we are kind of glazing over the fact that this is personal if you can't develop a personal relationship with someone that is carrying your child or someone that you are carrying their child what's wrong you like open your heart, you you you have allowed them to to carry what should be the most precious thing to you that you can give to another person like that, right?
Speaker: And you're not willing to open your heart to them? Like, what's wrong with you? What I'm hearing you say, Nick, is it wasn't the the person, so Alex, who is, you know, your surrogate,
Speaker: Bailey is just as much a part of that unit, right? Like it's not just about Alex carrying the baby. And so for you, I'm hearing it was also not only it was like, yes, I want to open my heart to this person that's doing this thing for my family, but it's I'm opening my heart to this family that is doing this for my family.
Speaker: Well, nobody operates in in a box, right? Nobody operates in isolation. So I think what i'm trying I'm trying to say is you start from a starting point of your heart is already open because of the situation, right? yeah And if it's closed off, you're actually creating more work for yourself. And then once your heart is open...
Speaker: Now that makes it easier for you to develop those friendships. So, you know, Bailey and i working out, if we had both been kind of closed off to each other and tried to, and didn't lean into the awkwardness, we maybe still would, kind would still, you know, maybe arrive to the same point, but it would just take longer.
Speaker: Right. The fact that we skipped the openness or awkwardness and we're more open, we were able to see, hey, we work well together. We have fun together. This a game. Oh, you like this? I like that. Or you like that?
Speaker: i think it's cool you like that. I'm not into it, though. You know, like Bailey, that gone. I'm just, I'm not going to it. It ain't going to happen. will sit there and I will enjoy spending time with him.
Speaker: But, you know, we don't have to agree on every little thing to have some friends, right? yeah Who Bailey is as a person is awesome. And I was able to see that and be able be a part of that because of both of us going, yeah, we're to skip the awkwardness. We're going to lean into who each other are versus putting up walls or barriers that are artificial.
Speaker: Yeah. And we did that fast. Like, I don't know why, but we did. We just immediately did that. We put our walls down toward each other and it was awesome. Well, yeah. Again, I love that. I love that you both were, saw the beauty that can come from the vulnerability of putting down your walls and being open. And, you know, like you said, skip the awkwardness and just call a spade a spade and then have fun with it.
Speaker: No, I think that's so amazing. Before this journey, and Bailey, I know this is the the second go around for y'all, but what assumptions did you have about this like surrogacy relationship and how have those assumptions changed with your own experience?
Speaker: and I kind of kept it open because it's just... this is something that my wife ah has had on her heart and that she has always you know wanted to do and she's a very giving person so for me it was even with the last one it's if this is her decision then i back her decision and I'm going to make it work no matter what for her so I didn't have like a bad expectation i didn't have a good expectation i just had you know I'm supporting my wife. That's what I'm going to do for the rest of my life. So that's, that's where I'm at with it. um You know, this is our second go around and the first experience was, was good. And,
Speaker: I was hoping that obviously my expectation was, okay, I hope that this second journey goes just as well. You know what i mean? And if it doesn't, then that, you know, that's just something that you, you go with the role on, but obviously this second journey has been amazing and wouldn't trade it for the Yeah.
Speaker: What about you, Nick? I have found in life, to have the expectations is setting yourself up failure. So I walk into most situations not having expectations, making my expectations whatever the reality is. So walk in, see what the reality is and adjust accordingly. So especially in something that you don't know anything about, you know, you walk into something that either you don't know anyone that's done it or most people haven't done it. You know nothing about it other than internet stuff and it's like, well, that's garbage anyway, you know? and The interweb will tell you anything you want to know, um you know whether you want to good things or bad things. So I just walk into situations and whatever is, is. And that's kind of where I burst into it.
Speaker: Yeah. What have y'all learned about trust through this experience? For me, I don't. It's hard for me to trust people. But meeting Nick and Lauren and their family and stuff like that, I definitely see a different perspective into it for me personally, just because of how normally in my every day-to-day life, I am closed off a little bit and I don't trust a whole lot of people. So for for this experience alone, to for me and Nick to have became as close as we have, it's kind of given me a ah different perspective.
Speaker: outlook on trust. Yeah. No. Well, again, I mean, I think, you know, like you said, or both of you have been saying, you know, you guys collectively prior to even meeting each other decided to just be vulnerable. And i think that's amazing.
Speaker: So both of you are obviously supporting your respective wives in different ways. How has that experience been,
Speaker: for the both of you and how have y'all supported each other throughout this journey? It's exhausting. no ah yeah Whatever the wives want, we give them and we just don't ask questions. There you go.
Speaker: We listen and we don't judge. Yep. Listen and we don't judge. So the next question is, For us, we have gone through different things that most people have never gone through and never will, and I hope they never do. Just different things that if I had to write my story, wouldn't even be creative enough to think of them.
Speaker: And I think that kind of makes everything else a little bit easier. you put certain things in perspective and it's like, meh, the little things don't matter.
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Speaker: Or maybe it's not surprising. Yeah. i mean, I don't, i don't know i'm surprised. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know if like, I mean, basically the way I see, the way I see it is, you know, our role is basically to support our old ladies, like, you know,
Speaker: He supports Lauren, I support Alex. And I mean, we also support each other's significant other. Like he supports Alex and I support Lauren. Like, yeah you know, I don't think that there's like a a weird or different dynamic to that. Like we just, we trust each other, questions, decisions and all that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker: Well, I love this so much because what I'm hearing is it essentially it it started as team baby and has evolved into still this team, but the surrogate journey aspect is just one part. It's not the central.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, straight up Nick is family. Lauren is family. Kiddos are family. Like, they are family and they always will be, no matter what. But I think, like, at the end of the day, from before everything was even confirmed, because, so, Lauren and Alex decided to skirt the rules and play around before, yeah like,
Speaker: Just little bit because of one of the one of these podcasts, you know, just created conversation. That conversation led to more. So it was one of those that like before we had, there was any decision made that we were going this direction together.
Speaker: They were already in constant communication as friends. So I think that aspect, and team baby may have been, i don't know. don't know if it was ever a team baby. There was an idea of,
Speaker: We have this baby. We want this baby to be here with us. it's if if We want thrill to be able hold this baby. It's hard to hold this out know ah So I think there was that, but I don't know there was like a a team aspect about it. There was ah a destination and a goal, but I think before everything was decided, we were already forming a team around each other.
Speaker: um So it's always kind of been like that. It's always been, we we want the best for each other collectively. And the the selfishness has kind of been taken out.
Speaker: I love that. So not you know not every intended dad or surrogate spouse there are going to become close friends, and that's okay. But what do you guys think are kind of the are the non-negotiables to help create that strong gist trust, support, and really just a strong foundation regardless of personality differences?
Speaker: You're talking to two dudes. I think at the end of the day, it's going to boil down to respect. Yeah, pretty much. We were talking about, you know, guys getting together and, you know, in any playing field, right? No matter what situation you put them in, if there's a lack of respect and and whether that be lack of respect for each other, lack of respect for their spouse or their family, a lack of respect in any way, shape or form, that's going to cause a problem. That respect has to be the kind of foundation. You're about trust as a foundation.
Speaker: i I think respect would probably come before trust. yeah And if you have that foundation, you can build trust upon it. You can build different things upon it. But I think between guys, respect is a big thing in any field. And if you look at any kind of interpersonal conflict between guys, it probably boils down to a lack of respect.
Speaker: yeah I agree with that 100%. And, you know, you're going to have different individuals, you know, that not us specifically, but somebody who's potentially watching this with their spouse and stuff like that. Like it just boils down to, I think as well, like, yes, respect is a big part, but...
Speaker: For the spouses, it's going to have to go back to communication between everybody and and what they want. They're going to have to communicate back and forth on how they want that relationship to be. Because if one side is expecting one thing and the other side is expecting another and there's no communication, then it's just going to be awkward the entire way. And you know if you've gotten past that stage to where now like that is happening and you know one family's thinking like okay we're gonna have communication this entire time and then the other half is like okay we just want to do this for them and and it be no you know sentimental value or anything like that then that's just gonna be a hardship on on both
Speaker: sides completely because you've got the people who are wanting to fight for it and then the people who are just like, okay, this is how we want it to be. And during that whole entire journey, the expectations of each other are going to be completely different. So it's just really, it's especially between spouses, I think it's just going to be, you know, it would be on top of the respect communication with that other individual and explaining to them like what you see, how it's going to be the way you want it And if there is even a middle ground to where you guys can get to.
Speaker: Open, honest communication. yeah yeahp That's disrespectful not to, right? If you're lying to somebody, you're not gonna get anywhere. If you're holding stuff back and not being transparent, you're going to cause problems.
Speaker: But I think also you're bringing up a really good point is that being transparent and being honest, but not only with the people, so whether it's your spouse or potential match, but also with yourself and really thinking about how do I want this journey to go? What do I want these relationships to look like with the journey beyond the journey? And really, i mean, i think, yes, we talk a lot about the surrogate and what does she think and you know what what are her hopes with all of that. But I agree. I think it is just as important to have a spouse answer that question for themselves, have intended dad think about that just as much.
Speaker: Everybody's journey is going to be different. There's so many different dynamics that can play out into it. But going back to what Nick said, you know, open honesty with the other half through all parties is is something that you just you have to communicate with each other because it's just a big part that plays into it.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think you have to acknowledge something too within yourself. You know, are you doing this out of selfishness? Like your actions, whatever action you're doing, regardless of this or anything in life, right?
Speaker: Are you operating in a selfish manner? Which, you know, it's fine if you are just being honest about it. Or are you wanting to be not selfish? Selfless may be too far of a word, but are you wanting to be selfish or not? So if you're wanting to be selfish, communicate that.
Speaker: Like you don't have to say, I want to be selfish, but understand that's what you're doing and be able communicate that effectively, that that's the method in which you're trying to operate. But if you're not trying to be selfish and you're like, no, that's not who i want to be, that's not what want then acknowledge the things that are selfish that you're doing.
Speaker: that are self-focused and not focused on other people and wanting the best for others and only wanting the best for yourself. And if you can't acknowledge that inside, then externally that's not going work. So it's understanding where your motives are coming from first and foremost that can dictate your conversations later.
Speaker: Yeah. No, I totally hear you. I think, i mean, i think it's really hard to find a only selfish, motivated person who is even in this process. Well, I would argue that we can all be selfish and just have trouble recognizing that. That is fair. That's fair. Yeah.
Speaker: So just calling it out on yourself, be having some self perspective. And if you're focused on not doing that, right? Because nobody wants to be selfish. I think there's a time and a place for everything. But if you don't want to be selfish, like, no, no, no, I don't want to be that, then make sure you recognize when you are. So that way you can take action upon it because otherwise you sit there and you end up being in a spot of selfishness and making excuses for it. sure. Well, again, just taking ownership of that, recognizing it. And if you have built the the respect, the trust that just continue, and then you're able to have the communication and everybody can collectively, you know, get to a solution with, you know, whatever that may be.
Speaker: Sitting in the seats that go, oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. The reason I brought is think we focus a lot on the, you know, Nikki Bailey, what's your back and forth, right? How are you interacting with each other?
Speaker: But I think we also take honest, because we are diving in awkward to something else, we take honest looks in the mirror at at ourselves, which enables us to be able honestly look each other. We are being honest.
Speaker: introspectively, then outwardly, that makes it much harder to be able to get along with people, be able to get past certain things, have real conversations about real things. So I just bring that up because if if somebody's watching this and they're like man, I want to have an awesome relationship with the person across from me, I don't want this to just be transactional.
Speaker: And you better be able to take a good look in the mirror because some actions you may be doing may be transactional, even though you're not intended that way because you're not recognizing some of the selfish things as you may be doing because you're just not looking at it.
Speaker: Yeah. No, I love that. Continuing to go with just these amazing words of advice, sitting in the seats that y'all are in now, what,
Speaker: wisdom ah or just nuggets would you give to any intended dad surrogate spouse?
Speaker: Always. Always. Always. Like first and foremost, yes. Yeah. Like whatever is going on, whether know which side of this you're on, what she's going through is harder off the map.
Speaker: Um, and then after that, take your feelings out of it. Uh, we actually had a conversation about this when we were in Illinois. Uh, so I a family member, they were told by that one of their, uh, bosses to read a book. And I was like, what's that book? like I don't know. It's about feelings and crap.
Speaker: And I thought that was the funniest. So Lauren and I often use that, you know, when we're talking about feelings, because we're like, you know what? Our feelings don't matter to certain Like okay we need to take our feelings out of stuff because, you know, for instance, if I get hungry and I don't eat, I might feel angrier faster. sharp Right.
Speaker: So if I didn't get enough sleep, I might be, you know, a little cranky faster. All those little things, those are just feelings. Right. And so sometimes we have to acknowledge I've got a feeling going on.
Speaker: And so when you're, especially when you're trying to supportive of something, you know, taking your own feelings out of things when you see something outwardly, right. If you were to be working with the other family and maybe you took something a certain way, like, Ooh, they did this.
Speaker: And now I feel a certain way. Well, is that what happened? Or is that what you're feeling? Cause those aren't necessarily the same thing. If someone says, you know, I like vanilla, they're not trash talking chocolate.
Speaker: It's just vanilla. So I would say, Be supportive of your life, of course, and foremost for all good the dads and kind of dads out there, the husbands. a that's You won't be successful in general if you're not doing that in a thousand different ways.
Speaker: But then after that, take your own feelings out of it. Whatever, you know, things may pop up that you're like, well, that's unfair for this reason or not. It doesn't matter.
Speaker: Skip it. Yeah. I don't, you know, step out of your comfort zone too like, honestly, step out of your comfort zone because, you know, this process isn't the same for everybody. Like, you know, you, you may speak to, because around here, like we have individuals who have done this before, you know, and.
Speaker: You know, I've spoken with my first time, you know, with our last journey, like we have intended, not intended, sorry, the surrogate dads down here. and you know, I sat down and i had conversations with him because at first I had questions, you know, and.
Speaker: It's just step out of your comfort zone, ask questions. If you're curious about something, like don't be afraid to talk to somebody about it and and ask those questions to better understand it because other individuals have been through this. Other individuals are doing this, you know, definitely step out of your comfort zone and and and ask questions.
Speaker: Always ask questions if you're curious about something. Well, be vulnerable. You do not have to be the expert in this. like Right, exactly. Yeah, I'd say have fun. Like,
Speaker: Yeah. but Whatever roadblock is in the way of having fun, just go have fun. Yeah. Just go have fun. I love it. Go do jujitsu. Go do jujitsu. Go do it. Just go do it.
Speaker: Do it, man. just Have you guys done to jujitsu together? No. Nick does it and he puts me in moves and I always say uncle as soon as he even tries it.
Speaker: That's hilarious. Alex tried to jujitsu me before we did the transfer. She did. i was ah I love the note before she did the transfer. Like just. Yes. Yes. production say You can no longer jujitsu me because we've done the transfer. Very good's very good. this is Now he goes at me and I'm like, nah, i don't want no part of it. Like leave me alone. And this was like the first time we went out there too. I was like, oh that looks pretty cool. What is this? And I tried doing, I was like, Oh yeah, no, did it wrong. And.
Speaker: He never knew until like the next time we came down and I told him, i was like, oh yeah, I tried to do that. And he's like, wonder why there was footprints. That's hilarious. I love it. I love it. Well, you guys, again, thank you so much for just your honesty and your openness. And um I could not be more thrilled that you guys found each other in this process. I have one last question for you. It's my fun one. So you've seen me the whole time and Bailey and I both, we've been sipping on, I'm going to assume coffee is in yours. And yeah, this is probably cup number Mine is water. Oh, very good. yeah i don't drink coffee. I put water in it because you s sent it and I was like, you know what? That's kind of nice. So I'm going show it on the podcast. Thanks. Of course.
Speaker: i um I definitely probably should hydrate more. I dehydrate with the amount of coffee that I am constantly drinking. But I always love to ask the question, what has filled your cup today? Literally or figuratively, what has been the thing to fill your cup?
Speaker: So I'll say, so water has filled my literal cup, but I mean, no, this is just, this is a cool experience because this is something that I never would have guessed that I would do. Me and Nick's personality, you know, it's just, and definitely it goes back to like helping if there is somebody out there who has questions and stuff like that to like reach out and ask those questions. And
Speaker: to fill my cup, it was just this experience and being able to talk with you and with me and Nick and show the relationship that we do have and the relationships that can come from something like this. yeah You know, it's just, it's super neat. And I definitely would, ah would tell the father's side of it to, you know, just be uncomfortable.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. What about you, Nick? um I do really bad with these and at least like metaphorical analogies. ah My brain is a lot more literal, so I'm like, oh, no coffee you over here bur ah yeah yeah I've got I've got a coffee cup. but ah But it's not the one she sent us.
Speaker: No, this one is a brumate somewhere I'm not selling somebody's thing. I <unk> feel like I would be disingenuous or dishonest if um i I didn't say the kind of hokey answer, or at least in my mind it sounds a little hokey at this point.
Speaker: um But God, I mean, at the end of the day, i feel like he has ordained all this. He fills my cup. He is the reliable source for that. I have a God-sized hole in my heart that only he can fill. And at the end of the day, I think this journey kind of started with him, not just providing the way, providing Alex and Bailey, but also that was one of the first things we talked about mike the Like the very first question Alex asked us, and she was you know, hey, where are y'all at with this? What's it like? Didn't waste any time.
Speaker: Wasn't like, okay, what's your favorite color? You know, like it rushed straight into it because that's what was important. And so I think to say anything other than that would be disingenuous. I think at the end the day, it started with him.
Speaker: It's going to end with him. And everything in between is by his hand. and And the other thing too is like if anybody does have questions, because I know you asked us before, like, you know, I provided my, I think my email and maybe my name and stuff like that on Facebook or whatever. But like if somebody does, and this is just me, I don't know how Nick feels about it. But if somebody has questions, reach out to me on Facebook, send me an email. Like I'm super open.
Speaker: I'll talk to you about whatever you want to talk about. you know what I mean? for tank You know, it's just me on Facebook. Do not email me because I'm terrible with my emails as previously alluded. Yes. Yeah. I work emails on top of my personal emails. get you that feels right no i mean yeah i can relate to that 100 well again thank you guys so much and um i'm sending all the good vibes and happy thoughts as we get work our way towards delivery day thank you bailey and thank you nick for just being willing to again just be a resource to others who maybe you know don't have other people close by that are going through this and so um i love that we're able to just
Speaker: you know, again, pour into the community in that way. So thank you guys so much.
