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Speaker: Not only did I experience macro and microaggressions. and Not just Palm Springs, but I mean, this is America. If we are going to be a city for everyone like we say we are. If we are going to be a hub.
Speaker: of, you know, LGBTQ Bless. voices and experiences, then then we all deserve equal space at this table and fair treatment in this space. I believe But the thing that really fuels hatred is ignorance. The minute that you introduce education, the minute that people... are able to grow. and to change and to formulate their own perspectives. Nobody's born a racist. That's a taught thing.
Speaker: Hello and welcome to Power Beyond Pride, a weekly queer change -making podcast bringing you voices and ideas from a across our fierce and fabulous spectrum to transform our world.
Speaker: I am Kenyon Farrow. I'm a writer, activist. communication strategist, and really happy to be here. I think you're forgetting you are a phenomenal writer. You're an amazing activist, and I'm happy to see you here. I am Shane Lucas, activist, harm reductionist, and a short stack of ginger with a side of daddy. And I'm excited for today.
Speaker: because this It's going to be such a fun interview. We're going to have so much fun. Today's guest is somebody who does not believe in having one job. They... They bring so many, so many work. to the to the platform. Drag performer, singer, songwriter, actor, activist, DJ, leather. community advocate, reality TV star, and dare I say it recently, and dare I celebrate it. Porn stuff.
Speaker: Yes. Yes. Let us bring it and celebrate it. We are clapping. All the cheeks. Now, not that I know because I live in North Carolina and we can't have porn here now, but. I have heard, and you can send me the videos. So please welcome to Power Beyond Pride, the fabulous, talented, and always busy Honey Davenport.
Speaker: What's up? Yeah, we are very happy to have you. I've been certainly a fan since Drag Race and... And even I've been following you on social media and even just some of the recent activism that you've done, which we'll get into a little bit in terms of. Leather community in.
Speaker: Palm Springs and a range of other things. so Very happy to talk to you. But before we do any of that. Yeah. Let's talk about your travel schedule. Oh my gosh. You are literally everywhere.
Speaker: So what does your life actually look like? right now when you're bouncing from city to city, performance to performance, and e event to event. And more importantly, what is your airport survival strategy? And as somebody who I used to travel a lot more than I do now, I'm always looking for these kind of tips.
Speaker: And traveling in sweatpants with snacks. Is that your thing? Or do you give like full celebrity? and Tron's at the TSA. You're on. And trance. Well, it it's it's a tight...
Speaker: aggressive little travel schedule, which I'm really grateful for. And I'm really grateful for everything this year is presenting. to me and all of these opportunities so like This is not at all a complaint, but I am at the point where I'm planning my rest. Like when I can sleep. Where do I need to hydrate? like So then I'm on my game, which is ah a really aggressive.
Speaker: life right now. But i'm like I said, I'm grateful for it. And it's definitely giving sweatpants in the airport. It's 1000 % giving sweatpants in the airport.
Speaker: I... I have been traveling like this for quite a while from Drag Race. to now i' being international Mr. Leather. to even pre -Drag Race travel. So i got the I got the way to get through the airport down.
Speaker: It's comfortable. I mean, if people are going to know you, be kind and friendly, but it's definitely. a time where i'm trying to get from point a to point b so i'm not trying to give you like For celebrity mode, but you can kick it if I run into you.
Speaker: and what gets me through. is a nice Chris. Cold. Glass of Savion blog. All right. well I think that sounds like an invitation for anybody who sees you in the airport to give you.
Speaker: And probably the pilot, let's be honest, is America. A few seconds. in the process. and And I do appreciate you mentioning Titan Aggressive, also my favorite. the although I do appreciate that.
Speaker: As well, I think that's also really important. And I love that you're bringing all the entrants in your schedule. Because it really is a testament to. just the different roles and the different spaces you'rerere you're occupying these days. And I think that's amazing, including why it's so important that right now, by the way, while we're on this podcast, if I can share this on you, because I feel like we got to be real here. You are making chicken.
Speaker: Because a chicken dinner that you can make. that that That sounds like a little bit of home on a travel schedule that I'm sure you don't get a lot to do it. So we appreciate you making time. and cooking chicken with us today. Absolutely. Cooking is one of my love languages. So a little bit after this podcast, I have a few friends. We've just met. I can't believe you said you love me. I appreciate it. That's sweet. We're already there, honey. We're already there. honey why there really want I'm the kind of girl who goes hard.
Speaker: Antitone aggressive. Antitone aggressive. Right. But yeah, so whenever I'm home, I do try to take the opportunity to cook myself a big, fabulous meal. So yeah.
Speaker: And you deserve it. And you deserve it. And I think that that's amazing. And honey, people think they know drag, right? I'm sure you've run into that. But my question is. Do they? Because I think you've been able to use drag as entertainment, storytelling, activism, fashion, music, and political commentary.
Speaker: So. I'd love to hear a little bit about what powers your exploration of drag. And is all the glam, does the idea that drag is all about glam kind of get in the way? of the many faces of. drag from punk rock to play that have made up the history.
Speaker: So I'd love to hear what powers your exploration. So that's a really big question. What power is my drag? And it's throughou throughout my career, I've taken... inspiration from a multitude of things. I've been doing drag for 20 years.
Speaker: ah Sometimes it's been... A brick on the side of the wall in London has inspired me. or bumblebees. but has inspired most of my looks on RuPaul's Drag Race. So... I take inspiration from all different facets of my life I always have To me, drag is when you use your your your body as the canvas.
Speaker: and the factors of gender are eliminated. ah So I've never. based my drag off of a gender or a walk of life, more just like glamour. and the the beauty that I see in the world.
Speaker: So that's that's what kind of inspires me. and Excuse me. All right. There's... some ounce of drag in just about everything we do. Mother who always says we're all born naked and the rest is drag.
Speaker: I even do some naked drag. So whatever. So I get inspiration from so many things. Is there is there any is are there any artists in the past that you that you think about? Because I think about some of the punk queens from New York and other in Seattle when I was coming out.
Speaker: And like are the drag queens that really. so many Before I did drag, I used to travel as a backup dancer for Peppermint. So Peppermint inspired me a lot in my really early twenties.
Speaker: and traveling i literally literally saw the world with our london dublin berlin Sydney, and she took me everywhere. And I was a backup dancer for her before. kept it out in my own heels.
Speaker: So she's been an inspiration. i I was also just raised by some... New York. legends from Paul Alexander, who's a fierce songwriter from the ones. Chew. Jeremy extravaganza who's always been like a father to me. to Kevin Avians.
Speaker: who's always been a mentor of mine. Right. So I was brought up by some. Divas in the world of drag, some real legendary names.
Speaker: And there's way too many to count, but I think I do carry pieces of them. all with me, especially. especially my dad, unfortunately. But when I first started doing drag, I lived across the street from my auntie's, the heart of Davenport.
Speaker: who was a big inspiration and she introduced me to my grandmother. These are devils. All right. is a phenomenal makeup artist. is That. has worked with so many hollywood elites especially trans women.
Speaker: a powerful transformer who's taught me my way around a makeup brush. and help me cultivate. like What. My. look of my identity are and how to polish.
Speaker: anything I wanted to create. So there's so many. There's so, so many. and They say it takes a village. it It definitely took the entirety of the West Village. Harlem, Washington ne Heights, Brooklyn, all of it. yeah and food And all in heels. All it is.
Speaker: Yeah, so it's really interesting to hear that kind of like preparation that it took to kind of be able to do drag professionally at that scale. But I also wonder about there there's doing drag professionally and even becoming nationally. even internationally known. in the community, but then there's RuPaul's Drag Race, right? Which takes you to another level. And so from your season, season 11, what did going through that experience teach you about the entertainment industry that you simply couldn't? gotten any
Speaker: where else right and was there anything about doing television and drag on television in that way that made you go, oh. This is how y 'all do things over here.
Speaker: Well, reality TV is its own particular form of television. I was, I was. Raised by my my big cousin is Lee Daniels.
Speaker: So I'm not unfamiliar. with the world of... Film and television. And I worked for Lee for quite a bit while I was in college. So, I mean, I had some Hollywood how -to in my back pocket from my big cousin for sure.
Speaker: Good. for reality TV. is a whole nother form of. Hunger Games Entertainment. ah Bleh. People volunteer as tribute with their mental health.
Speaker: and what But you know, it is what it is. RuPaul's Drag Race. like so many other reality TV shows. is a springboard. for you to kind of create whatever you want from it.
Speaker: So yeah, you have this reality TV show experience. What? the The future that Mother Ru has already carved out for you is that you can take this moment and become whatever you want to be.
Speaker: ah So it definitely told me. a whole new perspective. of TV and entertainment because It kind of gave me keys to a kingdom that I don't know that. Everybody gets access to you and everybody gets to walk that walk.
Speaker: So... it it it It changed my perspective. and that before Drag Race. It - becoming a TV personality. or creating the shows and things that I wanted to create.
Speaker: They were a dream. And then after Drag Race, they were a thing that I could do if I wanted to do it. I had access. I had the keys. That's really powerful. That's really powerful. and And thank you for sharing about that again, that.
Speaker: That idea that. there is opportunity in it. And I think that seeing that as part of your journey, because One thing I admire in hearing you speak is, and you talked about your journey from New York to California and your exploration of these performance subcultures.
Speaker: And that. I guess I think of you. talking about reality TV in some ways as like, I can make of it what I want. I have this opportunity. to kind of shape it. in the way and the vision of of that I want to create and what I want to say in the world.
Speaker: And we'll come back to your international Mr. Leatherwin because that's pretty amazing and something we want to chat about. But let's stick with Young Honey. Do you see your creative expression as a form of activism or authenticity or is it both?
Speaker: I believe, and I say this quite often, but it's from my mother. Our. Differences are things that make us special. art They're not just Our uniqueness, and not just our personality.
Speaker: They're actually... Our. personal tools, our sword to wield to dismantle systems of oppression. So... I do believe that. And. everything that I allow myself to do and be.
Speaker: I am consistently opening the door. for others to explore the possibility. of if this is the kind of life that they would want as well. So there is activism in my walk. And I wouldn't say that's...
Speaker: the The hill I die on that. My activism is I show up and I'm me, so therefore other people can be. It takes a lot of other work. outside of that, I think to really call yourself an activist. But yes,
Speaker: That is a form of activism. Existing in yourself joyfully is a form of activism 1000%. I love that. Is that something you see in your future? Is that something you see as, you know as yeah again, thinking about your road forward that you think about?
Speaker: Like how am I, now that people are paying more attention to what I create. is part of what I create then. modeling something different or a different way of seeing the world. I do. I love what you're saying around like giving people a different vision of what's. possible.
Speaker: Right, right, right. I don't think that I think of the way I move. As. I am. giving people permission, but I do see that they receive it that way. And I'm grateful for that because I just.
Speaker: as much power and autonomy over my existence, I feel like I have. I would hold to the legacy that I leave behind. is that we all do. We all have that power over our lives. and who we choose to become.
Speaker: That's beautiful. Thank you. So we are going to take a quick break. Power Beyond Pride family, but don't go anywhere because when we come back, we'll be discussing. dismantling discrimination on a local and national level, the cost of speaking out when you're doing that kind of activism with honey. And we've been talking a little bit more about sort of drag about Miss Lady Honey, but now we're going to turn and talk a little bit about Daddy.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: we're back to power beyond pride as you know before we went to break we were discussing activism and how having a platform allows us to be able to to be visible further in spaces than just being local. And we're having this discussion here with Honeydew. the superstar, the DJ, the RuPaul's Drag Race alum, the international Mr. Leather, all the things in the world. And I'm having this here also with my co -host, Kenyon Farrow. And we're loving that you're listening to us here on at today's conversation.
Speaker: So. Honey. You've been also doing work in your local community around dismantling discrimination. Tell us about that work in Palm Springs with the Human Relations Commission.
Speaker: And P .S., I sit on my own county, so i so i love two d I love that you're working alongside your HRC. Yeah. Give us the tea on what started this recent work and where you're taking it.
Speaker: Yeah, not only did I experience... macro and microaggressions. And. Not just Palm Springs, but I mean, this is America. It's something that. Unfortunately, as a person of color,
Speaker: is like more more than likely going to be part of your existence. but I'm pretty well connected in the community. And after... experiencing a situation that I just didn't see as fair, that I spoke out about.
Speaker: I decided to not let it just be some kind of internet drama or something that fades away, but something that we. actually do something about. because of the way that it hurt. I was like. Not only do I not want to experience this.
Speaker: I feel Since I've lived in Palm Springs the past three years, I've seen this community c grow and stretch and diversify in so many ways. And there's a... a cultural shift already happening here.
Speaker: And there's so many. younger queers and kinksters. Yeah. that are my young family, that I am papa to. You know what I'm saying? And I know that if I allow myself mistreatment.
Speaker: and showing them that that is. how they should be able to, move how they have to move as well. So I take that and think into consideration when I move, how I do in this community. And so I decided to take things a step further and say, this is not.
Speaker: an issue between me and the person who I felt mistreated. me This is an issue. Poo -ching. The way. People are treated in Palm Springs. and Palm Springs.
Speaker: Right. This is if if. if we are going to be a city for everyone like we say we are. If we are going to be a hub. of, you know. LGBTQ. Less.
Speaker: voices and experiences. then... then we all deserve equal space at this table. and fair treatment. endless, endless. in the space. And. So I spoke out about it and I spoke to...
Speaker: HRC and we started to come up with a plan because I believe. But the thing that really fuels hatred is ignorance. The minute that you introduce education, the minute that people... are able to grow.
Speaker: and to change and to formulate their own perspectives. Nobody's born a racist. That's a taught thing. And unlearning can a lot of times be much harder than learning. Knowing that, I wanted to create resources to do just that.
Speaker: So... I've been working alongside the city and alongside the Human Rights Commission were actually in the process of developing a subcommittee to the Human Rights Commission. that just tackles.
Speaker: the way that this city deals with this generation. and And what that looks like is... everything from education, from pamphlets to Class dismissed. Classes. classes to content.
Speaker: resources, things that you're going to be here, you're going to live here. This is how we operate in this space. And I always say, when you know you're driving, do an area with more tops, more tops, more tops. Wow. Where's that in America? An area with more tops.
Speaker: There's too many tops. Let me go to where there are fewer tops. Let me go to there. But when you're driving in an area. that there's more cop presence. You drive slower. You drive more on the speed limit.
Speaker: So you set the tone for your space. If we work to make. Palm strings are placed. where the tone is set. Wee. treat people fairly equally here. We respect all identities here.
Speaker: If we work to set that tone. The people visiting, the people living here will fall in line. And then we even have plans to reach out to... Our Desert Business so Association is really strong here. so we had plans are. how businesses can become more efficient. at treating everybody the same. and treating everyone fairly, even though We have these...
Speaker: We have these. parts of us that are ingrained in our society that are inherently racist because we're American. And because we're here. And because that's what this country is built on. What kind of education? can we create to literally dismantle that here?
Speaker: So I'm going to be working with a new subcommittee that's starting up with educators and city leaders. to do just that. Love it. So I'm curious, in doing this work, and particularly because of the kinds of in incidents and things that sort of happened, it became very public and... And also as somebody just working in nightlife in so many different capacities.
Speaker: You're partly really... Your livelihood is kind of tied to people liking you, right? And so when you become an activist and you challenge. sometimes your audience or your base or the people who support your work. That can feel like some... could be scary. So I'm just curious to know kind of how you navigated.
Speaker: um you know, doing that. at work and and speaking out about issues. where it could have cost you personally, professionally, financially, et cetera. And you decided to do it anyway. So just tell me what that was like and the decision to kind of move forward despite.
Speaker: that the risk. I think it's something that in tackling this, I'm learning how to. deal with better at. Every. time I've unfortunately experienced it.
Speaker: And I've done the version. that is aggression, and I've done the version. that makes everybody else. not want to work with you or affects you your livelihood And in each.
Speaker: of those moments I've learned. Huh, what if I navigate in this way? What if... I do this. from and from this perspective. and the next time in.
Speaker: I think that we have We have landed. so far. And I'm not saying this is perfect. But it's much easier to... It's much easier to... deal with issues like this.
Speaker: If you don't let your... emotions. become a part of the situation. So literally, so I tried my best. to separate myself from like, this is how I feel about the incident.
Speaker: This is the internet. It's not about my feelings. It's not about my... in camera reality, but this is the the issue. Me taking out of it.
Speaker: take it out of it what i could gain or lose from it take it Take that out of it and just think about what... and how I feel like this should be done. And the best way to do that. And I really do. I i have friends and a really good therapist. And I have someone to talk to when.
Speaker: things the are bothering me in my brain. So in my work, I try to separate it a little bit from my feelings. So like here are the facts. This is happening.
Speaker: We have enough data to take. This is a reality. How do we deal with this? No feelings attached. And then I got my friends I can go to and be like, girl, really? Do you believe? yeah I have that. That exists. But in in the real work, in the real... process of it, I try to separate myself.
Speaker: I appreciate you sharing that because I think that's really powerful. And and I know. We don't have time to dig into it too much on this, but we do hope you'll you'll come back and talk more about it. Because I would love to hear about that genesis in your own experience. Because I think for young people...
Speaker: It's nice to hear where that resolve comes from, that ability to think about what I'm feeling. and then how I respond to the world and how I go through that process, especially because activists burn out. oftentimes from that courage, right? Like it's that. response. And then like you have all this fire and you're like, I have fire. And then you set everybody else on fire and they're like, we're all on fire. And then like eventually you all burn out.
Speaker: So I love. that what you're saying there, because you're like, hey, I have these real feelings. I also need to think about. What am I what am i doing and what is the long -term impact it's going to have for me to express and deal with that? so that's Again, really powerful, really constructive. And I'd love to dig into that more, but.
Speaker: I know we have a little bit amount of time with you today, so I'm going to take, I really want to dig into this. So we're going to, I'm going to pivot a little bit. Because I want to talk about. International Mr. Leather. not Not just because I appreciate you and your leathers because they were, I appreciate you on a Drag Race, but you're looking good in your leathers too. So we appreciate that. Thank you, baby. The leather from the con, I just want to say, was like so fucking lit. What you wore to the...
Speaker: yeah today and when be one night was just like crazy Yeah. Thank Because I think there's so many things about it that are so interesting because obviously... what well it's it's in some ways obvious, right? You mentioned it earlier. You talked about Mother Rue talking about everything, you're born and then everything else is draft, right? So, and and I love...
Speaker: And I've heard you say in prior interviews. really talking about leather community's own history with drag that, you know, the the Hanky code, which is kind of a, for those not familiar with it. In leather communities, there is sort of...
Speaker: the different colored hankies that you could wear to signal. and signify behaviors or or ways you want to engage in pleasure or dynamics you want to have within that. And drag was part of that. Drag was part of that too.
Speaker: And so it feels like the alienation of the two, right, is shouldn't even be there because they've always been in some ways related. um And I'd love to, I guess, to hear. Because for people who may not understand the other community beyond the stereotypes.
Speaker: What does the community actually. mean to you when you think about the leather community can you express that you've shared a little bit about your drag journey What does the love of the community mean to you? And then. What does participating in IML mean mean? What do you think that means to you as someone?
Speaker: who has sort of cut their teeth. in in sort of public sphere. in the drag space, in that sort of performative space. Can you share a little bit about that Absolutely, absolutely. so I mean...
Speaker: Hey. I always, I mean, I say, I said it in my speech and and when I'm out. Drag gave me a mirror to see myself. which allowed me to create the person. And it's basically the the jack gave me the the permission.
Speaker: to create myself as I want it. And leather. gave me the roadmap to find my tribe. Chew. own that, validate that.
Speaker: ah strengthen that, support me in that. Because it's one thing to want to move throughout the world in a little way. And. We all need to pour in that move.
Speaker: So. that that That's kind of what the leather community has been to me personally. Not just is it a force. In. The. queer world, and especially in the city where I live in. I'm a part of palm strings, leather ordered the desert.
Speaker: And. the the the men and couple of women who are a part of our club. They work. tirelessly for absolutely nothing.
Speaker: just to cultivate space for education and philanthropy. and Sex and Play, and they... they they they They dedicate their lives to it. So that that's like what. at entering into the leather community.
Speaker: meant to me and Just like drag. gave me the space to create. Howard Lee. physically, my gender. identity.
Speaker: were all ah helped to be defined by that beautiful art form. Things like my... what I give back. how I am of service.
Speaker: ah How? ah How? how I move. through spaces with others and treat others with respect and our actual traditions with respect. and also allow space for traditions to grow.
Speaker: Like all those things are key parts of who I am as a person. and leather gave those things to me so they both played a ah instrumental pivotal part. and creating who I am today.
Speaker: It's great. So we need to take another break. However, Honey Davenport is still with us. And somehow after everything we've already sort of talked about and hinted at. We about to make this conversation a little bit spicier than it has been so far. I like to get spicy.
Speaker: Okay, so good. I'm glad you're ready. So when we come back, we'll be having more Power Beyond Pride with our infamous speed round with Honey Davenport. We'll be right back.
Speaker: Welcome back to Power Beyond Pride. I'm Shane Lucas. I'm here with my phenomenal co -host, Kenyon Farrow. And if you've not been listening to this episode... What are you listening to? And stop right now and pay more attention to this because we are spending time with the amazing Honey Davenport. And this is the most important thing in your world. Let's be honest. Okay.
Speaker: If you have been listening to this entire episode and haven't already fallen in love with... The Honey Davenport that we have met. The Honey Davenport making chicken. The Honey Davenport cascading and making entrants through airports.
Speaker: I generally don't know what else you need from us. So we've talked about leather, drag, activism, music, and creativity. Honey are you having a good time? I'm having a blast. And I just wish, the only thing that I wish is that y 'all were here to smell. This...
Speaker: The smell of the rock is cooking. and If you're inviting us to that table, you know, at some point. And I'm not that far. I will that will be down in Palm Springs for the end of the year. so Okay. Well, come on, Jerry. I always think the best food in this city is right here in this kitchen.
Speaker: It's not bad. i'm I'm on i on board. now It's going to take me a little bit longer to get there, but I will get it. Mm -hmm. um So before we go into our speed round, I feel like we got to talk about joy. We talked about a lot of heavy things and I think we need to talk about joy. And in some ways, your space of performance has been provocative. It provokes feelings in a lot of different directions.
Speaker: And for many queer changemakers, that's just the way it goes. That's the way that's way it it is. Is that central to your joy and fulfillment? Do you find the provocation? part of what brings you the joy because you are bringing people new experiences. At the same time, you're also challenging those experiences.
Speaker: If not, what is bringing you joy in your life? I mean... well the The thing that brings me the most joy. is peace of mind Right? And once you once you find peace of mind, that becomes your entire life's fight.
Speaker: That becomes nothing else. And you look at any of your action and you're really fighting just for peace of mind. that Maintain that space. And so so many things bring me peace of mind.
Speaker: That's expiration of my sexual limits and boundaries. That's knowing that I am safe, that my community is safe. So. Those are the things that bring me real joy. And then since I'm talking about sexual exploration, and that is definitely something high on the list, it brings me joy.
Speaker: There is just... Uh... sense of elevated vibration that I have. When I have a.
Speaker: um amazing scene. as a player My... Life feels like it is. directed into a more positive way sometimes. And. I know that giving my so giving my giving myself...
Speaker: permission to explore that. Changed. the way I move in other spaces. that are not sexual. Giving myself the ability to liberate sexually.
Speaker: also opened my mind. to where I could be more whole and authentic. and explore more possibilities. in my vanilla life. ah And so so to so that is...
Speaker: all around and just created so much joy for me. Do you feel like you get pushback from the culture at large sometimes in talking about pleasure? I feel like that we don't talk about pleasure, queer pleasure and queer liberation very much.
Speaker: Do you feel like sometimes you're like, hey. Remember, this is supposed to be joyful, like when we... then This is part of part of our liberation. Yeah, I...
Speaker: I feel like that is a thing that... the culture can push back on for sure. But when I look at my life personally. The pushback. More so comes from...
Speaker: The in insight. The call comes from the inside more often than from the out. When you give yourself permission. to walk through life, you set the tone for your experience.
Speaker: Other people just listen to your vibration. And most of the times. If they're saying something about you or having conversations about you, That's their conversation to have.
Speaker: And it really won't affect you as you're living authentically and standing in. own business and who you are. So... I would say most of the times that... I've experienced pushback. So I sit and really think it.
Speaker: and It's coming from in here. It was coming from me trying to make meaning. of what this experience is instead of experiencing it. You got the new start to speed round. I'm starting the speed round. It's my job. Actually, honey, you're starting the speed round. You're now the host of your own speed round. That's what we've got right now. I was so caught in the moment of these vibrations. No, I shouldn't just speak now. Let's do it.
Speaker: Okay, time for a speed round where we get to know you even better. This is where we ask you some questions, but you don't have to overthink your response. Just give us the first answer that comes to your mind. Are you ready? Mm -hmm. All right. First question. What's the sexiest thing someone can whisper in your ear?
Speaker: I'm ready. ah Oh. That's a very size nine dance classic too. I think we got to bring that. I am ready. We're going to have to do that. There we go right there. Leather, lace, latex or absolutely nothing.
Speaker: Leather. 1 ,000%. To me, it's not even like... gear until I play in it. It's a look. Until. until there's play that happened to it.
Speaker: And. With the exception of my pop -up jacket, I don't own any leather I haven't played in. And there's still time for that. Yeah, yeah i'm right, right it' still right. Sounds like dinner's on. Right. So. What's your biggest turn on that has nothing to do with looks?
Speaker: My biggest turn on that has nothing to do with looks will obviously be scent then. the smell. of a human. I don't need you to smell like. and or get or baby powder.
Speaker: but just the smell of them. bathed. but also sweaty. yeah human Yeah. What's the limit on that? Is there like a, is there like a, like a little, like a one to 10, do you kind of gauge and be like.
Speaker: These pits are definitely a seven or these pits are like a two. I want to say that normally there's not been too much that's been over my limit for it. I like the smell of a...
Speaker: I've had. Lived body. You know what I'm saying? You've been doing some things. Maybe you took a shower a bit, but then you went to the gym. So I, and ah and especially, and I like a mask.
Speaker: But. There is my the only time I've ever seen a limit is that was once at a party. that was ah based specifically on people who have a smell kink. And. There were a few people who I'm like. Oh you tried.
Speaker: yeah I don't want you to have tried. I want you to have existed. Unless... I get it. Exist without care, but not try to smell.
Speaker: Like a natural scent. Like my exes would keep my shirts after I danced on the dance floor for three hours. They would just keep the shirts for three days and then wash them and bring it back and be like, do it again. Yeah. Like that.
Speaker: yeah That's okay. Speaking of dance floors, you've got a new single, Come to Daddy. ah So there's that. So first of all, the title alone has already caused me to have questions. So lots of lots of interesting things there. And well, aside from that jam, what's your second favorite Dirty song?
Speaker: Aside from that jam, my second favorite Dirty song. Down somewhere. I feel love. love Eh. was a song Then that. only is sexy but in a time when it was created.
Speaker: people actually waited until it was going to come on for 17 minutes of pleasure to that song. Like how great to create something that people fuck to. Like, who don't want to do make a song that people are like, ah I'm going to wait. I'll be right in the room as soon as Donna Summer starts playing. What? What? That that is...
Speaker: Life goals. Life. ah so So what was it like with your second song? What was it like recording your... It's the second, right? It's your second single? Oh, so no, this is not my second, just my second single I've recorded. So much music. my My drag and my music have always gone hand in hand. I've been writing music since I was...
Speaker: a child. like maybe 13 years old when I wrote my first song. And. I started recording my own music. when I started doing drag. my like drag entrance to the world, my drag persona.
Speaker: had their own Ciao. That was how I started. I've been touring around the world with Peppermint. on her hardcore glamour tour. where she was performing all of her own music. and my version of drag. And I've been I mean, all of the.
Speaker: Sherry Vine music video parodies as a 21 year old blonde. Look. Swink. And. ah For me, that was a part of. drag It was like, oh, and you create music. Like, why would I just perform other people's? So I released, I think. Nine singles one while on Drag Race.
Speaker: Since Jagger has gone on to release EPs and... had a Uh, plethora of artists featured from in my work from Manila to Caswell. LaLaurie, Tammy Brown.
Speaker: Jackie Cox. Kevin Avi Allen's. I've worked with a ah whole ah bunch of other. Queer artist Chase Vegas, my... My. child chase vegas and i have created so many things together and My child, Kareem McJagger. as well And so so so many others that I've gotten to create with. So this isn't my first single.
Speaker: What is our second single? What is unique about... come to daddy, though. it It is the first one that I performed auto -drive. Because I started my... a recording artist's career. alongside my drag career.
Speaker: and when it When we started recording Come to Daddy, I sat and thought, I was like... Oh, did I just write a song to perform out of drag? Peace. Crazy. I've never done that before. Does it mean an album? Does it mean a new album is on the way?
Speaker: I would very much like to. I'm working with a really cool label called Sweet Records. and with some friends of mine who I've been creating music with for over a decade. we our Our first song that we ever released together was called Trouble. And it came out in 2015, so it's...
Speaker: It's 11 years old now. And. ah so And they started their own label. and So. I yeah i could foresee an album. In the future, I do know.
Speaker: that the calls were made and there will be more music coming out in my title year. So I can definitely guarantee more music. I just don't know how much of it because the schedule is Raise it.
Speaker: I love it. Thank you What's one thing that you find ridiculously attractive that... people may not understand or is maybe a little unconventional. Ooh, see? There's something beautiful about...
Speaker: Like anything can be done beautifully like anybody like it It works on some people. It doesn't work on others. it's Like anything can kind of be done. But one thing. And I like extremes so like I like Sure, guys. I love... Ciao guys!
Speaker: And but big guys, small guys. But there is something special about... a nice tummy to rub on, like a nice belly. I like a belly. And not everybody always thinks that's conventionally attractive. and Even though I won a six pack personally.
Speaker: I prefer me with something I can. Hold on to you. All right. I mean... The beef. Yes. but Take it for the reef. Bring it. I think that's good for those of us who are. Our stocky little selves. I think that's awesome. Thank you for raising the belly. There's actually belly rub culture, which I think is great. There's a whole belly rub parties that are going on. So. I think that there's a rise of the belly.
Speaker: Yeah. So. What is one thing affecting LGBTQ plus people right now that you wish more people were paying attention to? One thing affecting us right now that I was sure people were paying attention to.
Speaker: Hmm. Dare I say? politics, And I know it seems like people are paying attention to it, but I don't think that people are paying attention to it. actual politics. People were paying attention to headlines.
Speaker: And I think that's dangerous. And so I wish that more people. were actually actively researching. What is going on?
Speaker: How? Their lives are being affected. And. These rooms that are elected officials. And I say elected with air quotes.
Speaker: around them these decisions that are being made. I think so many people are unaware. of how some of these changes will affect us. 100%. Indeed.
Speaker: What's the hottest thing a person can wear? The hottest thing a person could wear. is leather chaps. ah just With or without, with or without Jock.
Speaker: I mean, that's the depending on the vibe. Are we going to dinner or are you dinner? and i be right why On that note, cake or frosting?
Speaker: Ooh, KK Frosting. It would be. Kind of hard to eat a cake with no frosting. So I'm gonna go with frosting. It's called a brownie, I suppose. Oh, that's a brownie, huh? No, but sometimes brownies got this moist chocolate. Brownies are different, yeah. That's true. It's a little heavier. I don't know. What's a cake without it? Yeah, what is a cake or without frosting? I guess it would some people prefer a lot more cake than they want the frosting. some people just keep
Speaker: Nah, I just want the front scene to be right. there's some There's some kind of frosting that's just... This is whipped sugar. And then there's frosting that's like, this got flavor, this got personality. that ah A lime buttercream.
Speaker: So stand up. cabaret or full -on Broadway production. You had to pick one of the three that you would want to be involved in or participate in. Which one?
Speaker: So. At this point in my career, I would say. Broadway. I've done lots of regional musical theater. but I have done. I don't know. I've done. national tours and international tours.
Speaker: And I've done quite a bit of cabaret. I'm actually currently touring my my own cabaret show. Homemade like you. And it's touring right now ah in California. We're playing San Diego Palm Springs and San Francisco.
Speaker: With so many more dates to be in announced. But. that I haven't yet. Got in. to feel the uh energy exchange of an actual Broadway audience.
Speaker: And I've always told myself. that it's not a if this will happen for me. until when it's right, when it will happen for me. So right now. the thing that I would want more than anything is a nice a nice broadway contract When it happens, I say put you between Patti LuPone and Vanessa Williams. im Done. Oh my God. Yes.
Speaker: Right there. Done in a Priscilla Queen of the Desert revival. Oh my God. Yes.
Speaker: Yes. i think I think if you have the agents are hearing this, now they know. to Please finish the sentence. Especially appropriate with your chicken dinner. I'm going to ruin my life tonight. If I'm going to ruin my life tonight, it better be because...
Speaker: Like. If I'm going to ruin my life tonight. It better be. Because. All of the weed in the dispensary is 50 % off.
Speaker: and i not Yeah.
Speaker: I'm just going to go for it. Yeah, yeah. There we go. And the last question is, what does power beyond pride mean to you?
Speaker: Yeah, what does Pride Round Pride mean to me? I remember the first times that I ever got to attend a Pride celebration, especially Pride in New York City. Like. how powerful that felt, how next level it felt to...
Speaker: have space in a world that not only I got to exist authentically. It was celebrating me for my existence. I remember one pride. ah Everywhere I turned.
Speaker: there was a rainbow flag. Everywhere I turned, there was a celebration of something that... There was a part of my life I tried to pray away. I tried to wish away. I tried to cut out on myself. there was all of a sudden I'm in a space that not only sees me,
Speaker: And it encourages me to be myself. It celebrates me. and power beyond pride to me. It means... carrying that same energy, that same Right.
Speaker: into your everyday life, not just when they've given us space. On a street to March on. not just when they've given us. space and the club to dance together.
Speaker: But in our. Everyday what? How we can. completely live authentically but Also remember that really important thing, which is that I saw affirmation everywhere I would turn.
Speaker: How do we affirm each other? That's what the word beyond pride means to me. That's so beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing that, honey. and Before we wrap up, I want to take a moment to thank you. because it, again, we appreciate the time.
Speaker: The energy, your creativity, all the things that you brought in. your your honesty, your laughter, the the life that you share. As somebody who values authenticity a lot, I think you are a model of what that means. And you've you've talked a little bit about... making sure you have those internal boundaries and being able to. reclaim that joy, create that space. have those chicken dinners, do all the things.
Speaker: But what you're bringing out and what you're sharing with people in community, it people see it. And it it's a way of seeing the world that's just so... It gives a vision of what's possible. And you're really bringing ideas and joy. And that just means a great deal. So you didn't just sit with us today. You shared your journey, your truth, and your artistry in ways that remind us why representation, visibility, and authenticity. They matter so deeply.
Speaker: Thank you so much for being here today. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me And I'm excited because I got some. Chicken, baked macaroni and cheese, and collard greens to go to after this.
Speaker: Well, that sounds delicious. Now, while we can't join you for dinner. We are out of time for the podcast and we would love for you to join us again. We'd love to have you back. But in the meantime. Where can people follow you and your work, even if they can't join you at your table?
Speaker: Yeah, so I'm Honey Gavin Port Official on both Facebook and Instagram, where I kind of... Always am. sharing my experiences through photos.
Speaker: statuses updates and everything so those are great places to follow me Also on YouTube, Honey Damn Core Official. And. On. OnlyFans, just for fans.
Speaker: Blue Sky and... all the other sites, you can find my adult work. at honey underscore Davenport. Where you can see under my clothes.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. Sounds amazing. so Today's conversation was a reminder that queer excellence is not just about performance, but it's also about purpose, resilience, and heart. So thank you again for coming onto the show and for speaking with us and pouring into our community the way that you always do.
Speaker: And with that, I'm your co -host, Kenyon Farrow, and you can find me. And all of the things at. at Kenyon Farrow. Just my name. It's very boring. Now, if you want the if you want the other ones, you might have to DM me.
Speaker: Four. in yeah But we'll leave it at that. Okay. Well, there's... That is, those DMs are going to be very busy. And don't forget, everybody, take up space, laugh loudly, love deeply, protect your peace, tell your story, and don't let anyone convince you that your existence is up for debate. You.
Speaker: R. worthy. I am your co -host, Shane Lucas. I'm so grateful to be here with both of you today. I am a harm reduction and activist.
Speaker: As I said before, a little short stack of ginger with a side of daddy. And you can find me on all the social channels. You can go to ShaneLucas .com to get those. You can also reach me to GreatIdea .com. And on the social channels, I don't know, whatever. DM me. I don't i don't have an OnlyFans or a JustForFans anymore. But you can check out my first TED Talk where I talk about sex. You can talk about that one. Other than that...
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Speaker: Learn more about them at a great idea .com. This episode is produced by Shane Lucas. That'd be me. Maddie Bynum is the project developer. Hi Maddie. Our editor is Jarrett Redding. Hi Jarrett. And support from Ian Wilson. yeah We are both a part of this podcast. Awesome host team. And we invite you to send in your questions and comments at powerbeyondpride .com.
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