Introduction to the Synergize Podcast
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Welcome to Synergize, unscripted conversations where we explore the evolving role of the financial advisor in an emerging AI driven world.
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Join us as we bring together thought leaders across a range of disciplines and industry experts, sharing insights designed to help RIAs thrive in the industry of tomorrow.
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Hi, I'm Bill Capell, Chief Client Growth Officer at Trade PMR.
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And I'm Ryan Neal, Senior Editor at Trade PMR, and you're listening to the Synergize Podcast.
Is Marketing Spend Worthwhile for Advisors?
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Ryan, there's a question I am frequently asked, and it's around the value of marketing and the role it plays in business development.
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In other words, is spending money on marketing worth it?
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Well, I believe the answer is that it can be when marketing and business development are executed thoughtfully.
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But at the end of the day, all the leads in the world don't guarantee success.
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What it boils down to is an advisor's ability to convert those leads into clients.
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And I know that sounds like common
The Role of Sales in Financial Advisory
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However, I believe that it takes effort and skill.
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And the skill I'm talking about is sales aptitude.
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Somewhere along the line, we shied away from using the word sales and sales aptitude when talking about the business of advice.
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Yeah, I think that probably happened somewhere in the shift from stockbrokers to financial advisors, right?
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And RIAs pride themselves on being fiduciary providers of advice to their clients, and sales has been a bit of a dirty word.
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But the fact of the matter is, sales is a necessary function of every business.
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It doesn't matter where you are, and it's especially true in RIAs.
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If you want to have a successful, thriving, growing firm, you need to be able to bring clients in, and that is sales.
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But a good financial advisor isn't necessarily a good salesperson.
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The ones that are the best at working with clients, building those relationships, financial planning, may not be the best salespeople.
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But if sales is necessary, what do REAs need to be thinking about in their approach to sales, and where does marketing fit into that picture?
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That's the right question, Ryan.
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It's not only about getting leads into the funnel, it's also about moving those leads through the funnel to conversion.
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While marketing can do part of that, the other part relies on the sales aptitude of the advisor to close the business.
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Success really depends on both professional marketing and professional sales.
Building Business Development Capabilities
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Our guest, Kelly Waltrick, is here to help us understand what that looks like and how you go about standing up a successful business development capability.
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What I think that more advisory firms need to do is start from the bottom and say, this is what I'm trying to accomplish.
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What do I need to do to get there?
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It doesn't need to necessarily be, I need $2 million more in revenue a year.
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Hey, I want to provide an additional technology to my clients that I think will propel them forward towards their goals.
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I want to hire another financial planner because I think we can provide more robust plans.
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I want to spend more time with my family.
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So I want to be able to bring on another advisor and then figure out what does it cost to do those things?
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And then back into what kind of business do you need to drive to then be able to do those things?
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Kelly, welcome to Synergize.
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Hey guys, thanks so much for having me.
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I'm thrilled to be here.
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You know, Kelly, I just want to let the audience know that you're the co-founder and CEO of a firm by the name of Intention Lee, a firm that builds what I would consider to be important and intentional design for marketing engines for the financial services industry.
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So let me start with this question, Kelly.
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You've held a variety of leadership roles in financial services marketing.
Professionalizing Marketing for Growth
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How should advisors be thinking about marketing and what has changed in the recent years regarding marketing?
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Yeah, that's a really great question.
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I started my career at a regional broker-dealer and the mix of advisor marketing at that regional broker-dealer was
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sending out client communications, putting on local events, doing a couple ads at your kid's baseball field, and asking for referrals.
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And I would argue that there's a good percentage of this industry that is still using that old playbook.
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When in fact, what they need to be doing is professionalizing their business like the rest of the industry.
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What you said in your introduction is so wildly true that any business needs to be thinking about their marketing and their sales as their growth engine.
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And so firms that want to grow need to look at their business completely differently.
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and start thinking about how to incorporate those two very important facets of the business a little bit more intentionally.
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Hence the name of your firm.
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Hence the name of my firm.
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Well, can you give us some detail on, I guess, that marketing playbook?
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Today, when you say that they need a new playbook and things have changed, what sort of things are you talking about?
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And then where does sales fit in?
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Where do you find that sort of marriage of marketing and sales?
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And then, I guess, following that, what do you see out there that's working and what maybe isn't working?
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Yeah, that's a good question.
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So I think that my career success has come from the ability to connect marketing to revenue.
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I'm going to be really honest about that.
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I don't think a lot of marketers can get to that point, especially ones who are solely focused on brand.
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So think about Eric Clark.
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If I went into Eric Clark and I said, Hey, I'm going to do all these things and they're all going to make our brand look really nice.
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No, he did not want to hear that.
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He wanted to hear how is marketing going to contribute to revenue?
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How is exactly what you're doing, how is that gonna tie to more opportunities for my sales team, more revenue for our business so that we could do more for our clients?
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It's a simple equation.
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So what we do it intentionally and what I think that more advisory firms need to do is start from the bottom and say,
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This is what I'm trying to accomplish.
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What do I need to do to get there?
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And I like to tell firms to think about it in terms of what is it that they want to accomplish in their lives and in their business?
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It doesn't need to necessarily be, I need $2 million more in revenue a year.
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Hey, I want to provide an additional technology to my clients that I think that will propel them forward
Purposeful Marketing Strategies
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towards their goals.
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I want to hire a financial planner in my business, another financial planner in my business, because I think we can provide more robust plans.
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I want to spend more time with my family.
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So I want to be able to bring on another advisor and then figure out what does it cost to do those things?
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And then back into what kind of business do you need to drive to then be able to do those things?
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So I have a lot of conversations.
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I think a lot of prospects that have crossed paths with me will tell you that what are you working towards?
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Not having an answer to that is a sign that you're not meant to work with intentionally.
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If you cannot articulate what you're working towards, but you swear you need marketing, I am not your person.
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I mean, maybe I will help you figure it out.
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I do like doing that.
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But you need to you need to be driving towards something with purpose, because otherwise you can throw all the things at a wall and and get nowhere fast.
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So let me follow up on that, because I think you're hitting on a very, very important point here, which is, you know, if you don't know where you're going, all roads will get you there, right?
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So the idea here is, give us a couple of ideas at how RIA should be thinking about answering that question of where I'm trying to go.
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Yeah, so it's interesting.
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We have a little bit of a playbook on this.
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And I can share it with anybody that's listening.
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But we we take our A's through a conversation that gets them to their, their marketing plan, their growth plan.
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So we ask things like, okay, exactly, what are you trying to accomplish over the next couple years?
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And over what time period?
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these things to happen in 12 months, 24 months, what does that look like?
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And what exactly do you want that to be?
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That can be revenue growth.
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That could be client opportunities.
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That could be share of wallet increase.
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That could be just changes to your professional
Establishing Brand Identity
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Like I said, and you're in the makeup of your business.
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Then we say to them, okay, how based on your client fee, how many new clients do you need to accomplish that?
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And based on the number of new clients that you need to accomplish those goals, give me a sense of for every X number of investors you talk to, how many do you bring on as a client?
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What does your close rate look like?
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And then I take that down to be a little bit more cautious because if we're thinking about marketing and digital marketing and all types of different tactics, it's not the same as getting a referral and closing a referral.
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So I sort of lower expectations a little bit in terms of the close rate.
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And then I say, now we can build your plan.
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Because now I can very easily tell you how you get to that 10 new clients a year, 20 new clients a year versus, hey, I need marketing.
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Can you do digital marketing for me?
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Well, yeah, sure I can.
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But why are we doing that?
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So we try to take firms through this process so that we all have a sense of,
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of what we're working towards.
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And my team has a sense of what we're being measured against, because I want to go in knowing that we can win and I want to take firms who I know know what they want.
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Does that make sense?
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Those are the building blocks.
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And thanks for sharing those.
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alongside of that, I would think is this notion of story, right?
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So I've laid out for you, Kelly, you know, how many new clients I need, what they look like against my revenue goal, which is part of it.
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And then we got to translate that into a story.
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You know, what I find often is RAAs don't
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are having a real challenge articulating their story, which is a reflection on their brand.
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Talk to us a little bit about how story and brand combine and how important that is.
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
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Most advisors go to an FMG or a firm like that and they say, I need a website.
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And they completely skip the idea of I need a brand and I need messaging and I need an identity.
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They think that that means a logo, right?
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it's 2024 and we're still having this conversation.
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It's kind of mind blowing to me, but we are very much believers that they need to take a step back.
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And before you can get a website and before you can get your collateral and before you can get your stationary and all the things that advisory firms want to jump towards, you need to know who you are and what sets you apart.
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And this is not rocket science, guys.
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This is, this is marketing 101.
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This is why do people want to work with you?
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And I am thinking,
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I am so much more of a stickler around this than starting my own business and feeling what it means to differentiate yourself and feeling what it means to truly embrace the things that make you different that I am pushing every RA I talk to to rethink their brand identity.
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I ask them to sit, to look, to read what they have on their website and truly ask themselves, does this,
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Is this who I wanna be?
Challenges of Branding for Advisors
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Is this what I want people to take away from who our firm is?
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Is this truly how I wanna represent myself?
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And I love asking people that face to face, like reading them things off their website and saying, is this who you are?
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Because the answer is always no.
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What do you suppose is the obstacle there when it comes to the branding?
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Is it a lack of imagination?
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Is it compliance concerns?
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Is it, you know, we don't want people to think we're not serious?
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I'm just kind of curious, where do you think this challenge comes from?
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I think it's funny.
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I think that challenge and a lot of challenges in terms of marketing and business development come from the fact that most advisors start their business through referrals.
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And it's the best way to build a business.
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And you're very lucky if you can keep them flowing.
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That means you're awesome at what you do.
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makes advisors, firms, business owners feel like they don't need marketing or they don't need to take that next step.
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They don't need to be differentiated.
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And then you get to a point where you're like, oh, oh shoot.
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And you know, you have to start from scratch, but I truly think that it's the way that most advisory firms have been started that sort of hinders that their, their thought process around brand.
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And when you think about where they came from, right, if they've come out of the traditional BD environment, the warehouse environment, or even the independent model, less on the independent side, I would think, but certainly from the warehouse side,
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they didn't have to do a lot of thinking about branding or marketing because they were operating under the brand of the parent.
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And so they're coming into the business with virtually no way to start to think about it.
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So, you know, that becomes a challenge if you've never had to do it.
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And I think that's part of the reality.
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And the other thing I wanted to mention and get your opinion on was the fact that, you know, you mentioned that most of us built our book out of referrals or introductions, as I like to say.
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But ultimately, I think the point you're making is that there's no silver bullet to any of this.
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It's a combination of things that you've got to execute.
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But the one thing they probably have in common is the brand and messaging.
Crafting Unique Marketing Messages
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Yeah, I think that's, you know, I hear so often, well, I'm not, I'm not really delivering anything much different than the firm down the street.
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So it's like, well, okay, so you're delivering financial planning, you're delivering investment advice, I get that I'm delivering marketing.
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And so are 50 million other firms.
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But that doesn't mean that you don't have to take a minute and think about how what you do is different, or how you're delivering a different client experience, or how you're providing different technology, or how you're
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experiences in the firms that you worked at prior gave you an edge.
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Like so much of that is who you are.
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And so I think we spend a lot of time really pushing advisors in uncomfortable ways to get to that point.
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You know, it's funny, I love to ask
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advisors, tell me what your best friend would tell me about you.
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Like, give me the, give me the secrets.
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Give me the inside baseball because I can turn that into messaging versus I do financial planning and provide investment advice, you know?
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Well, so one thing I want to ask about is when we're going back to digital marketing and just getting to the nuts and bolts of stuff, you know, the adage for a long time was content is king.
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And some of the folks on our team here, I wasn't able to make it, but some of my colleagues were able to go to the HubSpot conference.
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And I guess one of the themes that was really coming out of there was questioning that adage that maybe content isn't
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Maybe it's an ironic question for a podcast, Trade PMR Synergize podcast, but is that still true?
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I mean, is content still an important role to play?
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Is it still king or is it changing?
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I think that's an awesome question.
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I think content is at the core of every single thing we do.
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I, when I think about building intentionally, the core of it is my phenomenal writing team that brings like the ideas and the campaigns and the everything to life.
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That being said, when I think about what's king, I think it's actually two things.
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I think it's personalization at another level that now so many technologies are enabling.
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So the content is still important, but it can't be content for the masses.
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And then the second thing that I think is king is providing value.
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So again, a lot of that can come by way of content, but I'm a big believer in providing value to drive clients.
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Can I give you an example of that?
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And people who know me well know this.
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And you just brought up HubSpot.
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So it made me think of it.
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I took the CMO job at eMoneyAdvisor.
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And I was young and I was inexperienced.
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And I was sitting in my chair and I'm like, oh, shoot, I got to figure out how to do this.
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That's where I met you.
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So I slipped my LinkedIn profile.
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And back in the day, LinkedIn, there were tools that were tied into LinkedIn that like showed you when people change their profiles.
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Now, LinkedIn has gotten rid of all that.
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But anyway, I changed my profile to CMO of eMoney.
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And I immediately got an email from HubSpot.
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Kelly, congratulations on your new job.
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I imagine that you're gonna need to build a team now that you're in that seat.
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Here are 35 job descriptions that you can use as the basis for building out your marketing team.
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These are the most used job descriptions.
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And oh, by the way, if you're trying to figure out how to structure that team, here are marketing organizational charts from the top firms in the country.
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I tell you, I still use that today.
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I still use the job descriptions as the basis for things.
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I still use the organizational charts and then the world has changed since then.
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But what a perfect example of personalization at exactly the right, exactly the right thing at exactly the right time, content still driving the train and providing a value to me that I will never forget.
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So obviously they dripped on me, dripped on me, dripped on me after that.
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And now I'm a HubSpot partner till death do us part.
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But I just feel like providing value is king.
Personalization in Client Services
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And so I imagine that was not yesterday that that happened.
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That was a while ago.
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And imagine how much more sophisticated we know that with artificial intelligence that this is getting.
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And we know from the research that clients are demanding much more personalization.
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Steve Jobs created that demand.
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Jeff Bezos at Amazon, now I can get anything I want literally the same day.
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And as my friend Steve Harville would say is, I can't imagine why you'd need anything that quickly, of course, unless it was a tourniquet.
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But the idea here is that you have the ability today, and you mentioned this at the top of that answer, to create, you know, and I think content, people confuse that with information versus value.
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And so, you know, that was a wonderful example.
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What's your guidance around this today when you talk to advisors?
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Because we typically want to write something once and then use it for everyone.
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How do we go about thinking about how would you advise people to think about that when it comes to personalization?
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Segmentation is so important and not, you know, the kind of segmentation that this whole industry talks about, like, you know, make sure your lowest, your lowest customers get the lesser experience.
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I'm not, I don't buy into all of that, but I do buy into segmentation in terms of understanding your client to be a ninja in terms of the way that you're putting information into your technology tools, whether that's your MarTech or your CRM so that it can do a lot of the work for you.
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I'm an investor in a tool called Bento Engine, and maybe you guys are familiar with that, that is helping try to personalize
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you know, experiences and communications for clients.
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And there's tons of tools out there that do that.
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So I am a huge advocate of doubling down on the tools that are going to make it feel like you are, like we all have that person in our life, right?
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We all have the person in our life who never misses a birthday, who sends personally, Tina on my team.
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You guys know Tina Powell.
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She is the embodiment of someone who has a CRM in her brain.
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She knows your kids.
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She knows your birthdays.
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She's sending personal notes.
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I think we all, the rest of us need technology to enable that.
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So I am pushing firms at every turn to make sure that they're doing smart things in terms of collecting information on their clients.
Creating a Structured Business Plan
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Well, to start wrapping up our conversation, Kelly, we like to end these podcasts with some actionable advice for our listeners, right?
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So what are three things that anyone listening, whether it's a firm leader or a financial advisor out there, what are things they can start working on today to more effectively bring in these things we're talking about?
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Sales, marketing, personalization, all this stuff.
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What are some tips you could give them?
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Okay, so my first tip would be
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start thinking about your business like a business and put a business plan together.
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What are you trying to accomplish?
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What do you need in terms of resources to get there?
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And what do you need in terms of sales to hit your goals?
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And then like the exercise I took you through at the beginning of this podcast, that guides you to your marketing plan, that guides you to what you need to get to.
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So I think actually having a business plan, what percentage of firms do we think actually have a business plan, guys?
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What do you think?
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I'll bet it's pretty low.
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I mean, I'm going to guess like 20%, maybe, from the conversation I have.
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So go through the exercise.
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It's an important one.
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And I think you'll realize that it narrows your focus.
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The second one would be...
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read your website to your wife or your husband or your best friend and ask them if they think this is representative of who you are.
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And if you're a larger firm, have that same exercise with your leadership team.
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Because I think we all need a little bit of a gut check every once in a while to make sure that we are being thoughtful and being authentic and being real about who we are and what we offer.
Evaluating Marketing Investments
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Um, and I would say the third thing is
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Take steps towards understanding what good marketing could do for your business if you invested.
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I feel like in financial services, there's the small pocket of people who get it.
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I like to think a lot of them came out of SaaS businesses because they seem to understand.
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But there's still such a large number of firms and advisors out there who don't understand what the right investment in marketing can do for them.
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And there's so much noise and there's so much crap out there that it's really hard to cut through it.
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But I think if you're one of those firms, if you're one of those people who is underinvested in marketing, which is truly one of the greatest investments you can make in your growth and in your business, then educate.
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Work on educating yourself.
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You don't have to jump into spending a ton of money tomorrow, but work on educating yourself.
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Well, those are great, Kelly.
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Thank you again for joining us.
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Thank you for all those.
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I'm going to try to sum them up here if I can.
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So the number one is thinking of your firm like a business.
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Put together an actual business plan.
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Don't just operate on vibes alone.
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Number two, read your website and your business valuation to a friend or your spouse or your partner.
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Get their take on it.
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Are you actually communicating what you think you're communicating?
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And number three, educate yourself on marketing.
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Find out what marketing can do, what investing towards it looks like, and what it can do for you and take steps towards that.
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Did I get it right?
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Yes, you got it right.
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Well, thanks again, Kelly, for joining us.
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Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It's a great conversation.
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