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(UNLOCKED) Episode 20 - Hazed and Concussed in Argentina (ft. Aoife)
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(Originally released January 29, 2025)
Wipeout Canada! A single-season hallowed tradition. An entire television show was premiered on extended cable in 2011 showcasing Canadians being forced into near concussions and vomiting by running around on a hazardous endurance course. We watched three episodes of this show so you don't have to.
Featuring Aoife! Check her out here! https://twitch.tv/postmpanda
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Transcript
Show Format Updates and Travel Norms
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I think very relative because like over here, like I've we've been busy with her personal lives and needed to take a break we've been working on what to do with the show and have decided to rework it slight bit just to make something that we think that you'll find a bit better and works better for the both of us in the meantime please enjoy some of our bonus content we're making available for free and we will see you soon
00:00:27
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i think it's very relative because like over here like ah ah What is, like, a relatively normal drive for a North American is, like, insane travel for someone here Like, something like commuting between two cities in this country is kind of absurd.
00:00:45
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People do it, but it's not normal. And, like, in, like, America, I'm guessing the same in Canada. Like, the amount of driving that you do is absolutely crazy.
00:00:57
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It's not normal. It does get sort of overblown. Like, ah undisclosed location in British Columbia where I grew up. Like, yeah, we all drove into town, but the drive was like 15, 20 minutes.
00:01:11
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Like, i I used to cross more ground when I worked in Burnaby taking the train than I ever did, like, driving into town. Like the Saturday before I saw you when ah over the summer, Aoife, I was in London.
00:01:26
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Yeah. And ah the Olympics were on. And I had this the idea to hop on a train from you sorry not from euton from St. Pancras and go to to Paris.
00:01:37
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And that's what, a two and a half hour, three hour trip, right? It's Eurostar. So I think it's two two and a half hours. Yeah. And then like London to to Scotland, where I am.
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Is four hours. Yeah, yeah. So like this idea I had was like, well, going through customs would be really quick for me. So why don't do that? And then go all the way to Paris, go check out like very briefly the Olympics.
00:02:03
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and like just leave at six in the morning i'd be there for 8 30 and then come back like think leave at like one or two back to london and then go to the show that i was supposed to go to that evening and like in any other world like if i if if if it wasn't for the fact that i'm north american with my mental my mentality about this you would think that i'm insane yeah i don't i don't know because like it's like People in North America will often justify their need for an automobile because they're like, oh, i drive so much every day. But I think it's often overblown. Like nobody's actually driving like with a hundred k commute. that There's like a dozen. Unless you're in the United States, you most certainly do. Like there are people who i that's just that's not borne out by statistics.
00:02:48
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The average commute is under forty k It's still the average commute is under so is still under 20. Yeah, but even 40k by London standards is incredible. Like Central London, for example, is like where New Westminster is located.
00:03:04
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And like imagine commuting from like Lions Bay to New Westminster every day. It would suck. I mean, communicating with London is an entire separate thing as well because of the sub the underground. London is one of the two bits of the UK that has good public transport.
00:03:19
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What's the other one? Edinburgh. Oh, fair enough. and No wonder you'd say that. Well, yeah, we've got, um we're one of the only places in the UK that has publicly owned public transport.
00:03:31
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hyper Except your tram is really useless. That's the one thing, like, I know you're going to say something else, but like, it's it it is useless if you're like trying to go from Waverly anywhere. Like, my hotel was still required a one kilometer walk from the tram.
00:03:44
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you can go the bus then. Well, I didn't think about it when I got onto the tram and I realized how far of a walk I had with my suitcase to that hotel. the The tram does take you to basically the central bit of Edinburgh, where you can get a bus to anywhere from.
00:03:59
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And transport transport in Edinburgh is capped at ยฃ5 a day at most, unless you're traveling on night buses and stuff or going to the airport. But I pay for unlimited transport outside of night buses.
00:04:13
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In Edinburgh, I pay ยฃ60 month. That makes sense. That's actually not that bad. That's about the same price as ah a one zone pass here because we have a three zone system here.
00:04:24
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And but we also the only like everything is all unified here, except if you go to the airport, then you pay a surcharge unless you have a monthly pass, then you don't pay the surcharge. Exactly the same here. So when I traveled home to my parents for Christmas, because I fly because trains, trains, expensive except to London are really expensive and really unreliable.
00:04:43
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So it's actively faster for me to fly, even though it would be a four and a half hour train. um It's faster and cheaper. And it's the first time where haven't had to pay like 14 pound return for the train, for the tram.
00:04:58
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Okay. That's 42 miles that you just linked. Average. This look at the map. 68 kilometers. Yeah, that is. So I ruled out a job that I applied for because the commute was 42 kilometers. Yeah.
00:05:13
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Okay, but remember, so that's that's daily miles traveled. So the commute the commute is actually the average. And again, i i really want to stress average is only 21 miles.
00:05:29
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Also, if you look at the map, it's a it's a few rural outliers that are weighting the average higher. but then The actual median commute is half of that.
00:05:42
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But then New York. You kind of have to disregard New York, right? Because New York is going to just skew those numbers massively. Well, that's why you look at the median. And like looking at the median, it seems like it's more in the like under 30 ballpark.
00:05:58
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Which is what I've seen before. I can't find that somebody who... and Somebody crunched the actual medians. Oh, this is a fun website. Because underneath this, it just then
Introduction to 'Wipeout Canada' and Contestants
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goes onto list every single major city.
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ah columbus oh wow they just well if they have philadelphia what do they have here america philadelphia the salt lake city and columbus three metropolitan areas that i constantly think of in the united states philadelphia being one of them i guess with salt lake city and columbus like the only time those cities names ever come up is like if there's a hockey game well in any event i feel like we got enough for the cold open shall we start perfect Alright, let's do this. Stats matter. who Averages lie. Fuck off.
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Hello and welcome Shewinigan Moments. My name is Heather and I use she or they pronouns. ah on On average, my name is Tamarack and my median pronouns are it, it.
00:07:01
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And my mode pronouns are they, them. Fuck off. We have a guest! We do have a guest. watch you introduce yourself? Hi, I'm Aoife Chihat. Aoife, why are you on this show today?
00:07:14
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Because we were having a discussion ages ago about TV, and a certain show came up that we have in both of our countries that's right Aoife is our first foreigner in fact she has never been to Canada yet so Aoife's alluding to a tv show called well I don't really want to say it so let me just play the opening track to this particular tv show
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The Wipeout Course, a hallow tradition, a storied shrine to competition, athleticism, and achievement. One of the most revered fields of combat in the history of sport. And now, it's come north of the border. It's time to show the world just what us Canadians are made of. Joe Lama, you're bold! Oh, here we go.
00:08:09
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That's right. We're here to talk about TVtropolis, now Detour, ah TV show... Wipeout Canada. And you may notice they appended Canada to this because it is in fact of it's a show that it's been aired in a number of different countries.
00:08:25
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And of course, Aoife is the one that introduced me to this particular TV show. Oh, wait, we're not talking about Wipeout Quebec? Is there a Wipeout Quebec? There is. Jesus Christ, of course Quebec has one.
00:08:38
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ah It's hosted by Jonathan Torrens and Enes Esmer with Jessica Phillips as the on-site reporter. And if any of you are wondering who these people are what Wipeout's all about, let's dive into this here. So Wipeout is basically Takeshi's castle.
00:08:53
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That is the best way to say it. It's like American Ninja Warrior. I think Ninja Warrior is like a brand that goes around and that sort of thing. And in this case here, it's a bunch of people competing to win.
00:09:05
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Guess what? $50,000, which adjusted for inflation is only about $70,000. You can't. That's such a small amount of money. Is it though?
00:09:17
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Maybe it's like different circumstances, but like that's like two and a half years of my salary. yeah it's a de That's a decent amount of money and also like eat it's I actually kind of like this What's to buy in Power 70,000 though?
00:09:32
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Hey, it's like a year of salary for like a high paid tech worker or multiple years for a retail employee. That's fair. I will grant you that. Like that's the the thing that I like about that is I'm like like one million dollars or ten million dollars. The thing is like and people actually have very reasonable answers when you ask them, what will you do if you win the fifty thousand dollars? They actually like have stuff that they say. yeah well which is kind nice when we get into some of the contestants uh which i was rather meticulous about for the two two of the three episodes that we're going to be talking about one of them would probably do the best with that money but like if you live in vancouver and you're like wanted to buy a house fifty thousand dollars might help you try to buy a house but it isn't like that much it'll get you a down payment on a down payment oh that's painful
00:10:22
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So, like I said, it was hosted by Jonathan Torrance and Ennis Esmer, who are like not anywhere near where they were filming this, which we will talk about after we talk about the first episode.
00:10:33
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And Jessica Phillips, who was actually on site. ah Torrance is an actor and TV host. He got a start on the CBC show so Street Sense. That's sense with a C. And then he made later appearances on Degrassi, the reboot that happened in the early 2000s, as well as a recurring character on Trailer Park Boys.
00:10:52
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So he has a little bit of a like pedigree going into this show. And then there's Esmer. Esmer is a actor who's known for roles in shows like The Flash, Children Ruin Everything, and The Listener. And then Phillips ah is a model and her credits aren't as diverse. But what I did find her Instagram, and she seems like a rather decent person. Like she was posting photos of her and her kids for Pride.
00:11:19
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So like I ended up like going like, okay, you know, You seem okay. I can probably like you. Now, this show was actually one of the earliest shows on TV, Tropolis, which launched in 2006, which was owned by, i think then, Ken West Global, then eventually became Shaw Media, and then eventually became Chorus, because who the hell knows who owns what these days?
00:11:45
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And this network was famous for TV shows such as Border Security. Have any you ever seen Border Security? I love a bit of border security. Wait, is this a Canadian one or is this like... There's a Canadian version in addition to the Australian, Kiwi, American, British, yes. Because the one that airs here is the Australian version.
00:12:05
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I have seen all of them. The thing about the the Canadian border security one is it takes place largely in the very backroom's ass looking section like security section of Vancouver International Airport.
00:12:21
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Well, they did all the cargo terminal. They eventually start putting some episodes in Toronto. I want to talk about that show in the future because it's um it got but it got in trouble legally. And so what they did is instead of filming it in Canada, they just started filming it at the US border instead. So that way they wouldn't be subject to privacy laws anymore.
00:12:42
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yeah yeah it's that's it's this is a show for the future like border security is probably the most fascist show i've ever had to endure and i ah watched it out of sheer curiosity and horror yeah it's it's it's glory to our stotzka the the fucking tv series like it's bad wipe out canada got 46 000 applicants and only selected 250 for this show.
00:13:11
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And let's just open up by talking about a few people on in particular. let's Let's introduce some of our characters. So you're walrus whisperer?
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I was born with an innate ability communicate very effectively with animals. Okay, teach me.
00:13:35
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That means back to you guys. What, they think they're the only ones around here who can speak walrus?
00:13:44
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That means let's get it started. So everybody had to come up with a persona on this show. And some of them are wild. Some of them are incredibly cringe. The best ones were in this first episode and the rest of them. Yes.
00:13:58
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Yes. Please tell me you captured cheese Lord. Yes, I did. We will talk about cheese Lord because I very much appreciated cheese Lord. there's also There's also the subplot in this episode, which I hope you captured. I did capture this. This episode, I put the most love and care into because ah couldn't in the other ones. like This show kind of has one gimmick going for itself. It's just people getting hurt for 50 grand.
00:14:25
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Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's all they've got. And every single person has one personality trait. the Yes, and also put a pin in the people getting hurt for 50 grand. Because also a lot of people get hurt for not 50 grand.
00:14:39
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Yeah. The problem is, it's like in addition to people getting hurt and people having personalities, there's a little bit of bullying going on in this show. So let me ah just dive right into the next character that comes on to this show.
00:14:55
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I am standing here Kevin Chernenkopf. Um, actually, it's the incredible Megawatt! Megawatt! Megawatt! So you just have an echo every time you say that?
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I don't know what you mean by the echo!
00:15:12
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Well conducted interview. In case you're wondering about that censored bar, let's just say that suit does not leave a watt to the imagination. So we thought you could use some insulation. Well, let's not give him too much credit.
00:15:24
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That's better. i love Dick's dick. You see a stick at one point. You do? Yes, when they're showing one of the highlight reels. They forgot to censor it. And you it is quite prominent.
00:15:37
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So like it was a smart decision to do it. It's very noticeable. So for those who don't know, the benefit of seeing this is that the guy is this Kevin guy is in a Zentai suit running through the course.
00:15:50
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If you want the picture in your head, find the season of Taskmaster UK that Phil Wang was on. His horrible, horrible jumpsuit is basically the exact same thing. Yeah, another example would be um if you aren't able to get yourself access to that is just go watch a Canucks game from like 2014 with the green suit men and I'll give you an idea as well.
00:16:12
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um yeah where are they So they filmed this. One of those guys also, very young. So where they film this is outside. Those suits are are made of very, how can I put it, not breathable material. So he has to be boiling inside of this thing.
00:16:30
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Yeah. And then... Incredible heat stroke. I did have a question about this man. Yes. They say at one point he's from the Energy Province. What does this mean? This is Hunger Games shit. he's from I believe he's from Alberta.
00:16:43
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Okay, so that's is that because they mine coal? Or something? Or oil. Yeah, it's where he where were where a lot of oil and all that comes from. It's... ah it's but it's basically canadian texas yeah it was very hard it's where we it's where we turn pristine forest into gloopy sand with a little bit of oil in it and wring it out of the sand in the most expensive and destructive process imaginable yeah it uses very small amounts of water trust me bro um yes it uses just a tiny bit of all the water in northern alberta
00:17:21
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In this game, you have to go through ah whole bunch of challenges. You have to run across these like lily pads sort of things that are, like I'm guessing, filled with air. So they just sort of bounce off. Amazingly, they don't dislocate your ankle in the process.
00:17:36
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And if you fall off, you fall into muddy water. um And you get all muddy and everything like that. And if you get onto the other end, you then got to slide down this other ramp. And then you got to do all these jumps and everything. And then you got to do this in under a specific amount of time.
00:17:50
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it's it's It's a little bit less challenging than American Ninja Warrior because realistically this thing is designed to fuck with you no matter what. Whereas with American Ninja Warrior, if you watch that, it's people who actually train to do this have like, you know, raw carb abs and like can probably like climb with just one pinky finger or like one index finger or a pinky finger or whatever. it's This is a show meant for chumps.
00:18:19
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Or Takeshi's Castle where they the the the things are meant to fuck with you but they are like soluble. I think we see one person make it past the pent ultimate challenge, the big balls.
00:18:33
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only one person Only one person actually clears them in in the slate of episodes we will watch. Those balls look like they're designed to just like just throw you off. like I don't know how you're supposed to land on them properly. like You can't land on your feet. That's an easy answer. But do you like land on your chest and then just hope that you spread out far enough that you don't slide off in any direction?
00:18:54
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But that's great. How do you get the other two? right like There's just no i elegant way. the one guy The one guy who did it planted on ah landed on his knees, stood up, jumped, landed on his knees, stood up, jumped, landed on his knees, did it the slow, boring way, that they but they didn't comment on it. They comment on it on one of the later obstacles when people do this, but that's the only like strategically sound way to about you can just peg it, though. like I've seen ones where people just peg it and make it over.
00:19:19
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like It's very possible to get over the night Big Red Bulls the one iconic bit of this show, yeah it's doable. But, like, it happens, like, once every five episodes.
00:19:31
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Okay, the the three that we that we watched for this, there was only one person who cleared it, and they did it slow slow and steady. yeah But also, every time somebody slips off one of these, like watching them clock their heads or like their ankles on the post, which just has a little bit of padding on it, it just ah makes me wince every time. Man, I wonder how they managed to film this in Canada. I guess we'll have to guess'll to figure that one out.
00:19:56
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um Yeah, there should be safety regulations around this, you'd think. so So we also, well since we're talking about like having like strength and so forth, or rather I was speaking about it, um let's talk about this other contestant that comes up immediately and started to make me groan a little bit.
00:20:12
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Up next is mother of two Heather Westmacott from Winnipeg. Yummy mommy with the wasp war tummy. She's a mom with that body? Wow.
00:20:23
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Well, I'm sure she's used to being hit on, but let's see if she can stomach the sucker punch wall. Oh, socked her right the face.
00:20:32
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Oh, right. Sorry. I was still distracted by the abs.
00:20:37
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So the last voice there was MS. Thanks. Yeah, this woman. yeah But this is something that I also picked up, is that Yummy Mummy, is I assumed, was such like a cutesy UK thing, I did not think that had made it abroad.
00:20:54
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It's... I don't know how it made it here, to tell you the truth. She's actually good at this. You can tell that she actually has a lot of strength. She's quite athletic. Yeah, I did look into her, like this because they only call her a mother, like... and and i will say this with the nicest way she's also a real estate agent which doesn't exactly shock me considering i mean of course what else is there to do in winnipeg so it's yeah you know like but like this is starts to become like sort of a thing that these two end up doing is like commenting on uh the women who show up on the show in the such way it's this isn't like we only watched three and It's so gross. It's gross. like like off we we have We have a ah pair of twins up late, or not twins, sisters in a later episode who like seem to have engineered their schticks so that they would avoid these comments. And that's the only one that...
00:21:49
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It's so much worse what they've done, but we'll get to them, I imagine. They're the only ones... I didn't save a drop of that, oh well. They're the only ones who they don't get like weird, creepy comments about their bodies. There are a couple of them in the third one, but it like all of them are like, oh, this woman's like a controlling wife.
00:22:09
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yeah we'll talk about that when the next one yeah and and the other one from this episode who doesn't get any weird comments is of course my favorite and i hope who's up next oh season so i don't have a clip of her but i was going to comment on her so we have sisala who's from kimmy written in nunavut now to give you an idea of where this place is this place is a is on like one of the islands and the uh i think it's like the baffin island archipelago like what we call it The town that she's from only has a population of 426. And it just sits on the Arctic, like on the Arctic Ocean or whatever you want to call it.
00:22:45
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She was incredibly soft spoken. And when she was asked what she would do with the 50 grand, she just said, spend it. Yeah, I liked her. I didn't save any clips from her and I feel bad about this now. And then we were followed Bolloy, who's from where I'm from, Surrey, which is just outside of Vancouver. And what did he want to do with the money? He wanted to pay for his wedding in the Congo.
00:23:07
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wasn't originally from from Canada, was he? He's an immigrant from from the Congo. Well, they say or that could be either of them. um But I was impressed that they don't make any weird jokes about him being...
00:23:19
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Black and being from Africa. it's It's very uncouth. Or like unusual to have that. On Canadian television. Especially like past 2000s. yeah it's It's really interesting. Because like in the States. They probably would say something. On a show. on the show like They do have a Wipeout America show. I should point out.
00:23:37
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But in Canada, it's actually kind of uncommon. Like most people don't really like to comment on those things. It's because. Yeah, like there there was a reason why, why, ah why the Halloween costume choices of our former prime minister ah were such a big deal.
00:23:55
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ah He did make ah boot polish sales go up, I imagine. but Or down. That's true. um Jessica, who's again the co-host or the on-site host, I should say, she was really funny because she ended up wearing his I guess his button-up shirt. It was actually a nice looking shirt. It looked fun to wear.
00:24:13
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i didn't make note of the guy who came after him. as I just put down old guy who likes wine. that's fine. This guy who likes wine. They didn't say much about him. I wish I made note of his name down on here, but like Whatever.
00:24:29
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i think we've missed someone according to my notes. but did Who did we miss? Powerlifter. Where's Cheese Lord? The Powerlifter was number four. She was after Yummy Mummy. oh yeah yeah the power lifter lady yeah i don't think i had oh yeah she was a crossfit competitor right i looked her up because like that that was ashley right so yeah so ashley's a crossfit competitor she i don't know when she last uh competed but that's what i wrote down when i was looking into her i mean this is this is the 2010 so that tracks yeah well people still do crossfit today it's so weird
00:25:03
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uh and then we have ryan irvine somewhere of alberta and his claim to fame is that he is a chad kruger look-alike now ifa do you know who chad kruger is no i'll google it do you know nickelback look at this graph oh is it the man from look at this photograph yes yes oh he does he Yes, I don't know. No, he does not look like him at all. I remember this man looking kind of Thor-like, is how I would describe him, unless I've missed someone. He long, dirty blonde hair, and that's basically the extent of the look-alike. And he fell in the water and he whipped it around. Yeah, and he was kind of hot. Sure.
00:25:39
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sure I mean, I'm ace, And then then again, i do have a note here later of I'm very ace, but also would for firefighter guy in the next episode. so So I actually will bring up the next contestant because he's done me a huge favor because he actually made me do something completely unrelated to this podcast, but i'm going to play the clip.
00:26:02
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It's Ryan of Green Gables. Get it? Ryan who of the green what? Oh, that TV show, right? Yeah, okay.
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00:26:12
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Yeah, how lame is that?
00:26:14
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Like, let's dress up like an iconic character from a classic Lucy Maud Montgomery novel from 1908, right? Are you okay? This clip, because I watched this over the Christmas holidays, reminded me that I had put Anna Green Gables on my reading list in 2024, and I didn't get around to it. So immediately, um after I finished watching all the Wipeout episodes and made notes, went and started reading Anna Green Gables. So there's anything good that has come out of watching Wipeout Canada, has made me read a classic novel from Canada.
00:26:45
Speaker
Yeah. oh Also, what's our over under on this person being like trans? no i'm not going I'm not going to play that game. no The thing that annoyed me about this one is that's clearly Pepe Longstocking wig.
00:26:57
Speaker
Okay, I yeah put that ah down initially because I wrote that down before the comment came from came from Torrance about this. it Because I was like, Pippi Longstocking here, what the fuck? And then it ties into andnna Green Gables and I was like, okay, fair enough. like if You're familiar Anna Green Gables, I assume, right? I've seen the Netflix series.
00:27:17
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Okay, yeah. so like And you understand like how her hair is portrayed, right? like She gets called carrots at some point. Yeah, she's ginger. I have experience of the bullying. yeah yeah Yeah, that's right. So you you could cosplay as her.
00:27:29
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and So, you know, like that's kind of like how ah like what how she gets... What's his name? Glenn? Oh, no, we're going to talk about Glenn in a moment. Ryan McDonald. He is from Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, which I guess is why he was leaning into the Green Gables sort of shtick here.
00:27:44
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He loses his wig in the water, and there are more Green Gables references immediately after him. Well, I just, the thing that this person, that that the Ryan of Green Gables got me thinking about, and the thing I noted down is like, and do they just have like these random costume bits that they're using on on site?
00:28:05
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Like, are they just raiding a costume closet? I'm going to explain this in a moment. Did he bring that to... I have looked into this, Tam. Undisclosed filming location.
00:28:17
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So we'll put a pin in that, and we're going to talk about Glenn, because Glenn starts introducing a story arc in this episode.
00:28:29
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Jonathan and Ennis, I'm coming for you next! Ah!
00:28:36
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like We get a subplot. we So this is Glenn McCharles. And he is the most interesting person that I found in all of Wipeout when we started watching these episodes.
00:28:50
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um He can, what in that clip, he's bending what I presume is rebar around the back of his neck. Jessica looks in incredibly uncomfortable. Like, you can just see she's like, what the fuck is this man doing?
00:29:05
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Yeah, i put I put a note saying, I hope she gets paid really well for this. and Knowing she probably didn't. And so, i I ended up like, and then later on they make a comment about the Irish as well. so they They say, they they do ethnic jokes about him. And they're like, no, he's not Irish. He's actually Scottish. Or something like that.
00:29:27
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Thanks. Thanks. Thanks you too. for The jokes they make are not good. but No, that I hate the hosts. I found Glenn's blog. Oh, good. Oh, so he was blogging regularly um starting around the time that he was recording for Wipeout. In fact, he started blogging around October 2010, which is when they were filming the show.
00:29:53
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and so i've read a couple of his entries he does unfortunately use the r slur a lot i know it's a different time you know 2010 2011 not everybody was woke well it's back and but let me just find the here we go sort of let me see if i can put find the one i was going to talk about i can cut this out in second here here we go workout stuff i recommend oh yeah Cake conditioning by dave lem Lemon Zick. I can't, whatever. and i can't say it.
00:30:26
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00:30:39
Speaker
Rock from Iron Steel. but These are books, by the way, he's recommending by Steve Justa. It pays to be resourceful. And Steve Justa is just that. When it comes to working out, whining about what you don't have and what you can't do is for goofs. Are you a goof?
00:30:55
Speaker
You should be able to use any tool at your disposal to get stronger. And then Solitary Fitness by Charles Bronson. This is actually an all-around health and fitness guide along the lines of any of those male-order physical culture courses.
00:31:10
Speaker
Only a lot less gay.
00:31:14
Speaker
oh does he have any recommendations for more gay ones well he also says i think fat people should actually be shot they're repulsive to look at and these are like quotes from the book by the way works for the department of health ah well yeah yeah he's good like he's he that's where uh keir starmer got a lot of his inspiration yes so so yeah it's just there's a whole bunch of them but he does talk about him being a wipeout He starts talking about his exercise and all that. In fact, the image that I shared for ah with you to showing graphic design is my passion is actually from his blog.
00:31:49
Speaker
And he like shows a couple of of his tools and everything. You're like, I don't want to link this in the episode because I don't feel like giving his ah blog any traffic.
00:32:00
Speaker
but it's just an interesting little insight into him he stopped blogging around 2015 and I don't think he's actually a chud or anything like that I think he's just strange he has a wife and son so like if he didn't come back for the pandemic he's is probably he's probably shed the 2020 2010 isms
00:32:23
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he The sort of person he reminds me of is Ax of Gord, if any of you are familiar with that old blog. Now, I don't think Aoife would. a good chance Tam is familiar. It's about a... um curmudgeon video game store owner who like talks about like dealing with his customers in the most ridiculous way possible uh this is just the sort of thing yeah because he was right because he was from the interior of british columbia which is but he got popular on the internet for a while or something like that uh so yeah wow thanks for digging that up
00:32:59
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And then we get like... repressed that. so So we're going to come back to Glenn because he becomes important later. But I'm going to skip ahead. um There was also the Baconator ah who actually... What's his name?
00:33:14
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ah That was also very 2010s coded. Yeah, he it turns out that he's described himself as a swim bro on Twitter. Oh. His name is Brett Bacon.
00:33:27
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That's not the sport they attach him to in this, is it? It's a different kind of exercise. I know. Oh, right, because he's a yoga guy, right? Yes.
00:33:38
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who yeah And he kind of sort of pretends to sexually assault the host when they're doing the interview. Yeah, twice. But then we get introduced to the person that Tam was most excited for. The most excited for.
00:33:52
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our last competitor is self-proclaimed Lord of the Cheese, Jasmine Niewiadomski. I am the Lord of Cheese, and this will be good! I'm assuming you like cheese.
00:34:03
Speaker
Yeah, very good assumption. How much cheese do you eat on an average day? You don't eat cheese.
00:34:12
Speaker
That offends the cheese. You can't eat it And does the almighty cheese lord have a victory dance? The cheese does not dance. It demeans us all. I don't get it. Me neither. Well, let's see if she can breeze through the course. and then i like the cheese funds. I like them. I like them. I like the cheese lord. I could be friends with her. She was my 13th reason why. Oh my Wow.
00:34:37
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like ah wow
00:34:42
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but ah why why would you say that we had a woman with puppet who i don't think we spoke about we had a woman with her ventralica's puppet she was kind of the weird one we had the weird quarter covered was she the one oh because i put so many names down here because we we only had so many in here which one was she again because like she was contestant number 14 okay she was the one after the rock and roll groupie who they called a skank Yes.
00:35:10
Speaker
Again, comments on the female competitors are pretty much universally barf. i I'm starting to remember this now. i don't know why I didn't put this down. And but eventually we are introduced to all of our contestants as we are evident. I feel bad for not talking about puppet lady and that's a fault of my side here.
00:35:28
Speaker
But but she's Lord is the greatest. I like she's Lord. On the other hand, disagree. Yeah.
00:35:36
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ah so man I mean, the puppet was fine, but they didn't they didn't like they didn't give give her any time. No one had any time. This is something I want to bring up. They edit this absolutely insanely. like Yeah, blazing fast edits. I know this was a commercial program. They had to air on getting about 15 minutes of adverts in the hour that this would have aired for.
00:35:58
Speaker
so like you had to fit it into 45 minutes. but For most of the people in this first round, which takes them on average about three to four minutes to do, you see them for like 20 seconds.
00:36:11
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Like you don't get to see any of them.
Show Structure and Product Placement
00:36:14
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you you Most of them, unless they're like main characters, you see them do one obstacle. Yeah. And some of them get rolled into one. The two the nine other women, the two other mums, the drunk one and the angry one, they get rolled into doing it at the same time.
00:36:27
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Yeah, you get you get like one of them running down the ramp up to the first obstacle, somebody getting punched in the face, and then, bam, gone. Occasionally, you get to see somebody like take a way-too-hard hit on the final stair obstacle, going through the donut, falling, and clocking their heads, but yeah.
00:36:44
Speaker
i have I have suspicions as to why a lot of these got cut so heavily, but... it's Well, the thing is, there's only three challenges per se in this show, because you have the first one where everybody just sort of gets filtered up. The second one is the most important, and that is having this stupid thing spin around, and you have to jump in the air, and it gets progressively higher as you go along, leading until, like, what, ah two people are left?
00:37:09
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Seven. and Was it seven? okay seventy Seven. the The first five get eliminated. Yes. Then the seven who make it go to the next round, and then the person who wins... automatically goes to the final.
00:37:22
Speaker
Right. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. So, so we ended up with this, but like, I think the final one, the final is actually where it gets interesting. Cause we ended up with like, like it is the worst out of all of it, even though it's actually the most tame in a lot of ways. Like, it's not like jumping on the giant balls. That's going to like, you know, cause you to have like a weird concussion. It's not like the thing that's punching you in the face. It's going to give you a weird concussion. It's not like the ah thing that you got to jump up in the air. That's going to like give you a weird concussion, and you know?
00:37:52
Speaker
The final actually looks like legitimately fun. Yes, something that i would want to do. Because first of all, you don't fall in mud. Well, to make it that far, you have to do the most torturous round.
00:38:05
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The one. Yeah, the the s spinning you around, ah which which has no casualties this time around, but put a pin in that. Yeah. so And then, of course, you get to the final, which is the sponge towel spinner. Well, look at that product placement right there. This is something want to bring up. There's so much fucking product placement. Maybe this is coming from me having grown up largely with British public broadcasting and British TV for families.
00:38:37
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But we have really strict rules about product placement. You just couldn't do this in the UK. It would be illegal to do that. It'd be illegal to have the highlight, the best, best person getting hit, sponsored by the sponsor by some insurance company.
00:38:51
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I think it was CarMax. Yeah, that was the car um like the car collision repair place. I think that's what CarStars is. ah i Was it CarMax or whatever? CarStars.
00:39:02
Speaker
CarStars? Okay. Yeah, was CarStars that, and then the spinner round was brought to you by Motrin. Well, I would get a headache too, but you are correct. Like the product placement in this show, which is a cable show, this is premium cable. I must make clear. This is not something that's standard. If you get cable TV, you pay specifically for this channel.
00:39:25
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And of course, you still end up with 15 minutes of commercials, which is the state of, you know, how television works in in North America in general, a little bit less worse in Canada than the United States, but it still is bad.
00:39:38
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and Yeah, people bitch about mid-roll ads in YouTube, but like that's just that's normal for people in North America. I was like watching broadcast television at my parents' place ah during Christmas when I was staying overnight.
00:39:52
Speaker
And I was just blown away by how much how many commercials there were. And i was like, oh yeah, I can't skip these, can i constantly It's constant. And it's all gambling. Maybe this is a UK thing, but it's all gambling adverts. It depends on the province here. And well we're sort of dig derailed here. But like, yeah, depending on the province here, like if you're watching television for Ontario, so much of that is the case. But like in British Columbia, not so much. It's just because gaming is like a provincial matter, not a federal matter. So you can. Yeah. Ontario likes to follow the model of like, you know, the northeastern United States, it seems.
00:40:28
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Yeah. But I want to get back on track here. um i can't remember who won this one. I know it was a dude. it It was the walrus guy. no the wal and ok I'm glad he won because he he clearly seemed to have his heart in it. like he was He was out of all the contestants. He was playing ball the most. One of them had a t-shirt made.
00:40:49
Speaker
Does no one remember that? Who had the t-shirt made? I don't have the names. I just like numbered the contestants. But one of them had a custom t-shirt done. I was really wondering which one he didn't do very well he was number um 15 between puppet and the two mums there is one other thing with one of the contestants from the first round that just really bugged me though which is it's one of the guys he does like backflips and has like speedos on essentially and during his round one of the hosts mentions the Jackie Chan film tuxedo
00:41:24
Speaker
And the other host simply responds by going obscure with nothing else. And it's like ah such a bizarre, like it's a really weird way of doing commentary.
00:41:36
Speaker
The hosts very much like they never get it, but they're very much figuring out their chemistry. Like this episode has like very, this is the first time these two people have ever fucking met in their lives kind of vibes, which is rare for Canadian media personalities. They don't have a history together because I was looking at their two past works and I feel they might know each other because they're considering they're roughly about the same age. But considering like the shows that they've done in the past, I don't think they've ever ever interacted professionally like this.
00:42:06
Speaker
Yeah, which is ah a rarity in Canadian media because it's very small ecosystem, particularly back then on television, especially. But I want to talk about, I want to close this off, excuse me, and go back to Glenn. So let's talk about Glenn.
00:42:21
Speaker
New wipeouts. Until then, I'm Jonathan Tarns, along with Ennis Esmer and Jessica Phillips. Oh my God, he got in, he got in!
00:42:34
Speaker
During the episode, they're ramping up where, like, I think Jonathan gets bodyguards for one cutaway. ah But the bodyguard coupon ran out, so the bodyguards leave during this end segment.
00:42:46
Speaker
But, like, the the logistical nightmare of having a contestant in undisclosed shooting location that they then have to later bring into their studio where the hosts are, like...
00:42:56
Speaker
I kind of give him props for actually closing that thread. What's really funny is if you watch the end, you can tell that they filmed Glenn running around on a green screen and then got the two of them to run around elsewhere because like the lighting is so bad on Glenn.
00:43:12
Speaker
And you can just see Glenn fades out at one point telling me like, okay, they got him inside of a room. They managed to like chroma key him in. And then you can just see at one point he sort of fades a little bit, whereas Jonathan and Emma don't.
00:43:25
Speaker
Okay, i I wasn't sure if they actually brought him in. Oh, I was making I was paying very much attention to this. Like, that how did they do this? Because I don't think they brought Glenn into studio to pull this off. I'm almost certain they must have like taken him backstage and then said, hey, run around on this green screen pretending you're chasing after the two of them. We like this shtick.
00:43:46
Speaker
But that is the first episode of Wipeout Canada. Very first episode. Very pilot qualities. So as I mentioned earlier, it was filmed all or rather recorded in October of 2010.
00:44:04
Speaker
And they like they have made random jokes about having access to Canadian healthcare. But the thing is, though, is like the doctors they were working with were German. So, you know...
00:44:16
Speaker
actually well therere they where Well, we know that it wasn't filmed in Canada. oh but Okay, they they might not have been German doctors, but they were trained by German doctors.
00:44:29
Speaker
So Aoife, tell us about Wipeout as a series. So, Wipeout was originally an American, what's the word I'm talking about, game show. And after it was really, really successful in America, it ended up being replicated and done around the world.
00:44:46
Speaker
Now... Health and safety in the US is a bit strict. You can't necessarily do some of these things to people, um spin them until they throw up, make them break ankles, break knees, various other things.
00:45:03
Speaker
Spirits. But you can do that somewhere else. I mean, I'd say where? Yeah, you can say where. Yeah, because I was making German references. Yeah, that's why i was making German references. So this was filmed in Sabre Ranch in Argentina.
00:45:19
Speaker
This isn't something they mention much in the or at all in the Canadian version, but it you can tell it's not Canada. ah I say that as... Yeah, it's very much not Canada. Well, okay, so the one little giveaway in this show where they actually mention it, aside from probably in the credits, is at the very end they show title card for the production house that is actually an Argentinian company. Mm-hmm.
00:45:44
Speaker
But also, we we don't watch credits like that. this is This is already well into the era of TVtropolis would have taken their little credit slide, squished it into a corner, and filled more adverts while the credits are running. I'm curious about that, because like i have the i have the episodes playing here.
00:46:02
Speaker
That was super common in the like late the late aughts through the It's out of standard practice. like the The show credits, which are mandatory, get to be a little postage stamp because you can run more adverts.
00:46:16
Speaker
Yeah, so like I'm just looking at the credits here. And they'll say, recording facility services by Endemol Argentina SA, producing consultation with Endemol USA.
00:46:27
Speaker
And then the um it definitely like makes it very clear that you're right. It makes it very clear that they did not film this there. But what's interesting is, and we'll talk about this a little bit later,
00:46:39
Speaker
is this was filmed in Argentina, but it was filmed for a Canadian channel. And this is going to be important after we've talked about the next episode. But Aoife, you said you've seen other variations of the show. This is the only exposure I have to wipe out personally. yeah so These three episodes are the only exposure I've had, period. yeah I feel blessed. I grew up, um i'm a a lot I'm a bit younger than our hosts, and I grew up um watching the UK version of this, Total Wipeout.
00:47:10
Speaker
It's the only one that's called Total Wipeout other than the Indian version and the French version, because we already had a show from the 70s called Wipeout. um And that one mentions constantly that it's in Argentina.
00:47:25
Speaker
they're constantly mentioning mentioning... So I also watched, to prepare for this, one episode of the UK version and one episode of the Swedish one, which is just called Wipeout Sofia. And in the British It's an excuse for to say Swedish, right? Yeah, exactly.
00:47:41
Speaker
in the In the British one, it instantly opens with saying, 20 Brits brought to Buenos Aires, Argentina. And there's constant jokes about... So in the first round...
International Comparisons and Cultural Differences
00:47:53
Speaker
there's an obstacle where you run across like a balance beam and there's like people throwing dodgeballs at you. And there's constant jokes about how this is like the 1972 Argentinian dodgeball team.
00:48:06
Speaker
And there's loads of jokes about like, ah oh, you couldn't film this and in England. Health and safety, am I right? And it's...
00:48:17
Speaker
it's ah It's a bit different. um i yeah anniosset But the animosity between Canada and Argentina is... We didn't fight a war. Yeah, we haven't... yet well Well, hold on a sec. We have fought a war with some of the ah population of Argentina. It's just that, you know, they just haven't been prosecuted. That's all.
00:48:37
Speaker
Well, you've got some of them as well. um Well... well We, however, fought a war over some islands that are British. Let's just get that out of the way.
00:48:48
Speaker
um They have no legal claims. Our entanglement with them involves a little bit too many paperclips. Yeah. where And yeah, I then... Because I've done quite a lot of languages in my time.
00:49:04
Speaker
And a really good way to... learn languages is just to watch the tv watch like tv meant for common like regular audiences in that country so about when i did french i watched a lot of like french the bachelor french um like dating shows and one of the things i watched was like french total wipeout and then as part of prep for this i watched the swedish version which And all of these are filmed on the same place in Argentina. The only version of it that wasn't filmed in Argentina was the Chinese version, which was entirely unlicensed.
00:49:40
Speaker
And they did in China instead in the PRC. Okay, cool. But some of these are really weird. So before I i shut up, and I will shut up in a minute. No, no, cook, cook, cook. Scandinavian version.
00:49:51
Speaker
huh It's the same show. So each episode has 24 contestants. Eight from Sweden, eight from Norway, and eight from Denmark. And then there's just different hosts for the different Scandinavian countries because they're close enough that people can pretty much understand what they're saying.
00:50:08
Speaker
And everyone is also basically in their underwear in the Scandinavian version. Oh, interesting. like is Is this like a reference to saunas or what? No, it's because it's really hot and they're all Scandinavian.
00:50:19
Speaker
That's fair. yeah This is the hottest temperature they've ever been in. They show up in their Fjallraven and then they just kind of go like, oh, we're overdressed. I was also watching the Christmas special and they all were pretending. It was very obviously the middle of summer in Argentina.
00:50:35
Speaker
They were pretending it's Christmas. So they all had like winter clothes on. on top of like bikinis and on top of... Yeah, it's it's ah it's yeah very different.
00:50:48
Speaker
The editing is very different as well. but yeah So we're talking about... The fin is 15 degrees Celsius, I believe. I'm going tell that my friend Tina. um So one thing I said that I was going to surprise you all with with things here is I actually have in my hand here the wipeout application form.
00:51:05
Speaker
Oh. Ooh. And so I actually because I was doing some research and I wanted to find anything about this and that what happened in the last episode is two things came out of it.
00:51:16
Speaker
Number one, they had a chat room for this. You could chat to people on the TV Tropolis website about Wipeout. It's really weird that this exists. Like I cannot imagine moderating a fucking chat room for a channel that's on extended cable and so you have that but you also i when i was looking at it i stumbled across the application form and fortunately the internet archive has a copy of it and it goes through like the usual things here it asks for your name gender home address but province your own phone number and all that sort of thing and then asks for other things but including your marital status do you have any children your occupation
00:51:57
Speaker
After you get to the health stuff, it starts to ask you a couple of things like the first one here. Do you have any phobias, i.e. fear of heights? Yes or no? If yes, describe in detail. So it might be just to filter you up. Maybe they're going to use it to fuck with you because we're talking about a lack of health and safety.
00:52:13
Speaker
and then also say It does also ask you like to list all the television shows you've appeared on. Even if you didn't win anything, you must disclose. And then it doesn't ask you anything about your ability to travel, but it asks you two questions, which I think are kind of them trying to figure this out.
00:52:29
Speaker
Have you ever been charged with or convicted of any crimes? Yes, no, please describe in detail. But then it asks you again, have you been ever been convicted of any crimes?
00:52:40
Speaker
So it asks you twice. Charged and convicted of legally different things. Yeah, they're charged with, but the first one is charged with or convicted. Okay, which is so that's why i'm saying I do understand the difference.
00:52:51
Speaker
So you got that and and then it starts to ask you like, what sports organizations have you been a member of and it goes like as far back as high school or whatever. Do you have a university degree? Have you ever won any scholarships?
00:53:03
Speaker
Have you ever had your IQ tested to join an organization like Mensa? If so, what did you get? And here's the thing. When we were talking about Glenn McCharles and he had his blog, he mentions on his blog that he has an IQ of 140. So that tells you a lot about him.
00:53:16
Speaker
Does your job require you to wear a uniform? Would you be prepared to wear that uniform on the course? Would you consider yourself big city or small town? Have you ever entered a beauty contest?
00:53:28
Speaker
Do you have any siblings, parents or children who also might be interested in appearing in Wipeout? Are you in a relationship? If yes, would your partner also be interested in being on the show? What is the next... just Just angling for the episodes that we find here.
00:53:42
Speaker
what what is the next big milestone in your life? What would your friends say are your best qualities? What are your worst qualities? Are you competitive in your everyday life?
00:53:53
Speaker
Have you had any experiences that have traumatized you? if so If so, please, trauma dump in this form. I'm paraphrasing. No. What is your unique and personal motivation for wanting to compete on this show? If I want to get hit in the head, would you what would you do if you wipe out Canada winnings?
00:54:11
Speaker
Do you have a nickname? What is it? What would your wipe out Canada name nick be? No. What would your Wipeout Canada shout out be when you start the course? If you were a superhero, what would your superpower be? Are you willing to wear a costume while competing for Wipeout Canada?
00:54:28
Speaker
What would be the worst, most embarrassing and humiliating thing that could happen to you on Wipeout Canada? Yeah. Oh my god. Why? Why? Tell us the story.
00:54:38
Speaker
Do you believe in an afterlife? Do you believe life on other planets? Please write fanfiction of the most embarrassed could possibly be on national television.
00:54:49
Speaker
Do you believe do do you think that you will win Wipeout Canada? What qualities will the winner of Wipeout Canada possess? What are your other favorite favorite TV shows? Who is your greatest hero?
00:55:01
Speaker
Why should Canadians cheer for you? If you were an animal, what kind of animal would you be? If you were food, what kind of food would you be? Do you have an unusual skill or talent?
00:55:13
Speaker
What is the most daring and dangerous thing you've ever done? Describe the circumstances. What is the coolest thing about you? What is the weirdest thing about you? I'm losing my voice. I know.
00:55:25
Speaker
What other TV shows have you applied for? and have you And then it goes back into some generic stuff. And then finally, it says here... You got to upload some photos. And so whatever. And then 2010s internet, but it's also upload a video link, which is about, we're about four years into YouTube. So I can kind of see this working.
00:55:43
Speaker
now We see video link is optional, but remember we see lots of applications. Anything you can do to get our attention gives you a better shot. So be creative, sing a song, show us your battle cry for the start of the course.
00:55:55
Speaker
Do your, I just won victory dance. Don't be afraid to think outside of the box. And that's how they ended up with Glenn McCharles. Well, the weird thing is they talk about the the like kind of ah battle cry thing that mentioned at the start.
00:56:08
Speaker
They mostly cut those out in other versions of the show. They always start at the very start is someone will like have a sentence or two that they'll yell before they start. they don't really do that in this because they've cut them all out.
00:56:19
Speaker
I think that Glenn is kind of an exception, but you're kind of right because like when we were talking about um Heather Westmacod, she like started talking about her washboard tummy and like she does have and a fantastic body. I will grant her that. ah But it's like that was sort of unusual and as we go into the other episodes we're gonna find out about like how kind of lousy it gets about this and i feel like this might be a good time to segue into well heroes
00:56:56
Speaker
From far and wide, oh Canada, they stand on guard for thee. They are firefighters, soldiers, doctors, nurses, and teachers. The everyday heroes keeping our true north strong and free.
00:57:11
Speaker
Today, honor them. oh Canada, you can't stop this crazy monkey! Woo! them on No, she's a cop. But here's the funny thing.
00:57:24
Speaker
you You're correct. You brought up a cop. They didn't bring up cops as heroes. No, it's it's the Heroes and Class Traders episode. Well, there's some really weird ones on here as well. as You expect there to be like cops. Every cop's like firefighters in Africa, but that's like charity. There's people who just work for charities as well. which Yeah.
00:57:41
Speaker
Yeah. So let's but every cop, every cop that they show is like somehow simultaneously the most, like, that's definitely a cop and also the most fucking unhinged person. and So we, let's talk about this, but first I guess you get to use a drop that I haven't been able to use in a couple of months.
00:57:59
Speaker
Let's talk about some good guys. Okay. Let's talk about the troops.
'Heroes Edition' and Contestant Stories
00:58:07
Speaker
And of course, we get immediately introduced to ah Emma's going on about his favorite hero. Welcome back to Wipeout Canada Heroes Edition. As mentioned before the break, heroes come in all shapes and sizes.
00:58:20
Speaker
And as you can see, I'm dressed as my second favorite hero, World War I flying ace, Billy Bishop. And JT... Yes! Hey, get out of here, JT. I really don't want to do this. You wanted to show the people heroes?
00:58:33
Speaker
Fine. Fine.
00:58:36
Speaker
And JT is dressed as the biggest Canadian hero in my books, Pamela Anderson. Come on, do the little slow motion beach run thing. put the costume on. That's enough. Billy motherfucking Bishop.
00:58:48
Speaker
Yeah, there you go. Take a tail feather.
00:58:53
Speaker
Okay, can we just get back to the show? Yeah, I was so stoked. I was so stoked that we got Billy Bishop. Are you familiar with Billy Bishop? No, when I saw the outfit, I thought it was Biggles.
00:59:07
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Okay, so Billy Bishop was a World War I flying ace. He was um not only the best flying ace in the British Empire, but in Canada. And as a result, he has an airport in Toronto named after him. He plays a role in World War two ah There's probably stuff in your textbook from when you were in secondary school mentioning him at some point. If you've done enough World War I history, his name absolutely will come up if you are reading about the British.
00:59:37
Speaker
Was deeply involved in getting the whole like common like Canadian, but by extension Commonwealth like air flight pilot training program off the ground in Canada. Yeah, listen to our three-part series on the avro Arrow where we we actually end up talking about it for a good portion of the first episode. yeah two The only pilot we ever mentioned at school was Amy Johnson.
01:00:00
Speaker
That's fair. I'd rather talk about a woman personally. She died. yeah She crashed and died. but because then Because they couldn't fight on the front lines. So what they had to do was um the Wrens, the wres the like women RAF, or the RAF, the Wrens were the other ones, the Navy.
01:00:19
Speaker
um They essentially shuttled planes around the country so they could be where they needed to be. But they had weirdly high death rate. Because the planes were poorly made and not tested very well.
01:00:33
Speaker
so Sort of like the the night witches in the Soviet Air Force where they were running older bombers with less range. So they like had to glide part of their way to their bombing runs because they needed the fuel to turn around and come back.
01:00:47
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Kind of, but they weren't allowed to actually fight. They were just doing like, yeah. We're in the heroes episode and we have a number of people. Heroes and class traitors. Yes, class traitors. We're going to talk about one in particular because I may found some interesting notes about him. and But let's talk about a couple of people in particular. I want to talk about my favorite contestant in all of this.
01:01:09
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And that's the school teacher. So I'm going play her. Meet Wendy Swayne from Pitt Meadows, b c So what am I reading here? Stop talking, just read it.
01:01:21
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But I'm supposed to interview. Shh. It's quiet time. Wow, pretty strict. What did she teach, Fear 101? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:01:31
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She should put her hand up if she's going to yell like that. She's setting a really bad example. is bad in my lesson class. There is no lesson plan for Wipeout Canada. Ooh, pop quiz time. The teacher gets schooled. She forgot the golden rule of the sucker punch wall.
01:01:47
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Don't put your face in front of it. You just made that up. Yeah, it's still gold star. It tastes delicious. You're not supposed to eat it. She... I agree. I liked her and I purposely kept all of those bits in there because I actually thought this was genuinely funny.
01:02:05
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i will also say that she's actually a really good person. So she is from Pitt Meadows, British Columbia, which is just outside of Vancouver. And in 2018, she managed to save a child's life when one of her, one of the kids that she was supervising on a recess break,
01:02:22
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ah just suddenly collapsed to the ground. And apparently the kid went into cardiac arrest. She called ah for emergency services to arrive. And yeah, she managed to, you know, bring this kid back to life. And there's a current ongoing debate about putting AED devices, defibrillators inside of schools, which I think is actually a worthwhile cause because,
01:02:45
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the the fact they should be everywhere they should be everywhere they should be accessible whenever we need them they're they're absolutely foolproof i have been trained to use one uh in a in a class setting just put more of these fucking things out there um like kids do randomly just die like i could die on this recording too like you know it's completely possible just to keel over for no reason like that movie we saw ifa oh yeah like but Like I've often been the like designated like workplace first aid person and like ah real facts CPR is kind of fraught.
01:03:25
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It's a roll of the dice pretty much. Whereas those AED devices are fucking flawless. They talk to you and talk you through it. They talk you through the individual steps that you need to do. And if we had them everywhere, we wouldn't, we'd have a lot less grannies with broken, broken ribs and ah questionable consent.
01:03:44
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We do in the UK, pretty much. Yes. Pretty much every, like that, like we, we have them in like every village hall in like old phone boxes. That's like a really common thing is we put them in old phone boxes And like pretty much every public building has at least one.
01:04:02
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Wendy aside, because I feel like she's my favorite of all the heroes. we also have She also fits into like ah like the walrus guy from the last episode. It's like people who I think are like really playing ball with the show.
01:04:14
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Like they're really trying to make the content work. Even if their shtick isn't quite great. Well, what we we could talk about another guy whose shtick is rather interesting. um We're going to go back to Troop.
01:04:27
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You know, Enes, our heroes may not be as wacky as the usual contestants in their day-to-day lives, but you have to admit one thing. They're heroes on the dance floor, where it really counts. Can we see what your victory dance would look like? No, that's classified hero, man.
01:04:42
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Like, not even just a little shimmy. Jess not having much luck with helicopter pilot Chuck Scrock from Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Give it up, Jess. This Black Hawk is not getting down. There's a non-zero chance that he piloted, that he at that time was piloting a Sea King. Yes, Sea Kings are terrifying.
01:04:59
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Which at that time had a bit of a problem of propellers just... coming off and detaching from the sea king and then the sea king would become a sink king oh so yeah Chuck Strzok is in the RCAF flying helicopters at the time um but he now works for Transport Canada so he's no longer in the military he so we can't salute now we can't salute well we can salute him on on Remembrance Day but because he probably I would take it like since he was well no for his service in Transport Canada we can now salute him
01:05:32
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But he is now, but we considering that he was in the RCAF, he probably was serving in Afghanistan. So he, I would say that he's an experienced pilot. I didn't look too... Based on Dartmouth? Maybe not.
01:05:44
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You think he's more Coast Guard? he he Yeah, he might have been he might have been there with their with with their like air rescue division. That's fair. its The thing is, it's like with some of these people, it's really hard to do a little bit of background investigations on them.
01:05:58
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And like, we'll talk about some of the other ones here. We also had Lisa Belanger. She's from Vaughan, Ontario. That's right. And she received a ah fire services exemplary service medal from the governor general in 2011. So that's the same year that White Belt Canada aired.
01:06:15
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She receives a medal from the governor general. She also, like from a 2012 conference guide, it describes her as a 21-year veteran in the fire service. Lisa is an acting captain for Von Fire and Rescue Service and a confined space trench technician.
01:06:30
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Fuck confined spaces. I want nothing to do with that. She has a FDIC hands-on instructor in firefighter survival since 2006 and is a fire ground operation instructor for Durham College.
01:06:43
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in the pre-fire service program. She has studied in the officer program with the Illinois Fire Service Institute and has also instructed for the Ontario Fire College in the recruit firefighter course.
01:06:54
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Lisa holds Canadian and world titles in the firefighter combat challenge, and this was all from a 2012 conference guide. So she sounds like like she kicks ass, and but she's apparently now a fire captain, if her LinkedIn is to be believed.
01:07:09
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Shit, that is... Wow, that is a resume and a half. Yeah, holy shit. And then we're going to go on the other side. We'll talk about class. Basically, this is this is somebody with like all the credentials.
01:07:24
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I like she was actually fun and she was very silly on the show, which tells me that she does have a playful side. Unfortunately, we can go talk at about another woman here. This is Crystal Malachowski, and she does forensics and claims and claimed in a 2016 murder trial that not all evidence gets analyzed.
01:07:44
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She's probably right. Which is true. Yeah. ah Really good. I know that she took us a spill real fast and she kept calling herself. She had a name for herself. What it was like.
01:07:56
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Oh, she called herself the monkey woman. Yes. I noted her as most sane police officer on deck. Probably. And then we get Kat Ross. So Kat Ross is a philanthropist. That's how she got on the show. She basically paid her way. ah She's from Winnipeg and she runs like she's in a bunch of nonprofit organizations. I'm guessing she was a trust fund kid. Like, i don't know how she got this money.
01:08:21
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She gets ah she gets ah she gets ah kind of sanitized a little bit because they say that she's a charity worker. Oh yeah, this is the one who I was like, oh, she must work for a charity. Yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, she she works in charity. She works in like, I think I forget the other term that they use for.
01:08:38
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and like, oh, OK, that's kind of strange. Yeah, she's like she is apparently works for an organization called. Yeah, she's president and founder of Kids Initiative. She signs off with or sorry, rather, she. Yes, this is what it says in the opening paragraph.
01:08:51
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Kat signs off each of her electronic messages with this quote. I hope does this mean every email or every text? Yeah. I am only one, but I am still one. I cannot do everything, but still i can do something.
01:09:04
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I will not refuse to do something I can do. And that's a Helen Keller quote. She definitely strikes me as the kind of person who signs off her texts. I do not do not print this email.
01:09:14
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No. Yeah, do not, do not print this email. She's like that whole block plus a do not print plus a confidentiality statement, just because she's replying to you on Tinder.
01:09:26
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But she's also done like she has done legitimate things like she's done stuff for like HIV and AIDS in Africa and that sort of thing. So like, I don't really feel like I can riff on her too much. I might find the emails a little bit pretentious, if anything. like you know like i listen look People who work in like NGOs are also kind of like that, no matter what their circumstances are. I'm used to this, and like it's not my cup of but you know I don't really have anything negative say for other than she probably you know like she basically paid her way into being on this show, even if she didn't pay her way to be on this show.
01:09:59
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Yeah. I made note of one person, Kundal, and I don't remember what his role was, unfortunately, but I noted that one of the heroes is now a real estate agent.
01:10:10
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oh Annalyn Zarzansky Sorry, Zarnecki, excuse me she ah believe she's a paramedic And she ended up getting an Emergency Medical Services Exemplary Service Medal from the Governor General So we've got two people who've received medals from the head of state um But like, good medals Good medals for like, actually genuinely helping people Yes But let's talk about, and I have labeled this person as this cunt in this clip here Next on the chorus, we have police officer Andrew Morris from New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, who calls himself Drew Dog.
01:10:46
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Drew Dog in the house! What's up? This is Andrew Glenn Morris of Halifax, or rather, they say New Glasgow, Halifax. say Glasgow, right?
01:10:57
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New Glasgow. Oh. Yeah, New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, but he's actually from, he works for the Halifax Police Service. barf And so six months after this show had aired, Morris was arrested September 9th at a downtown bar after a female patron complained that someone had reached her under the skirt and grabbed her
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01:11:19
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buttocks while he was off duty.
01:11:21
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Insane he got arrested for that, to be honest. Yeah, that's normal cop behavior. That's normal man in bar behavior. Well, unfortunately, few weeks later, or a few months later, Halifax Regional Police issued immediate release concerning Constable Andrew Morris being charged with sexual assault.
01:11:39
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The charge stemmed from an incident earlier the same day on Grafton Street in Halifax. Last week, the charge of assault was withdrawn by the Crown Attorney in Halifax Provincial Court.
01:11:50
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yeah it's normal yeah so first of all like like we've been alluding to police are not heroes they're they're class traitors let's just make that clear and the show kind of alludes to this because they don't label them as uh heroes on there they i have a feeling that's not the standpoint of wipe out canada i don't in my head canon it is They sure they sure cut them out quite a bit. But also, like, I just want to add ladies and femmes. If you're if you're in a bar in Vancouver and VPD walk in, cover your drinks.
01:12:25
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Yeah, I agree. That was kind of like, that's not even a joke. Like, seriously, this PSA. i noted that he kind of sucked at this anyway. Like, i fact I barely made notes about this guy, but he didn't really get all that far. I think I don't he didn't win. So whatever.
01:12:38
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But yeah, his whole shtick was he was wearing a cowboy hat, was referring to him as Drew Dog and all this sort of thing. Which is very confusing for somebody out of Halifax. I assume that was just Canadian police uniform.
01:12:51
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No, the Mountie hat's a little little more... rare Yeah, it's not a Stetson that the Mounties wear. No, they'll drip down like that. Yeah. and the me No, no, they're they have a dweeby uniform and I'm glad.
01:13:04
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We also have a doctor named Stephen Fisher. They kept making references to him fingering your asshole the whole time. yeah doing which like just the cold love thing two like like guys do do get your prostate checked if you're over 40 and then which both of the hosts are so i hope i hope they're actually not that squeamish irl Oh yeah, so we have Donna McClain. She's a nurse.
01:13:36
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And when she's introduced on the show, she just starts saying all the names of these children in her life. like I'm assuming they're her nieces and nephews because I think they referred her as an aunt, but I might be. Oh, right. Fuck. Oh, i remember this. Yeah, it was kind of awkward.
01:13:53
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Yeah, my character trait is aunt. ah Like, i'm my character trait is I'm an aunt as well. and like i But I dont wouldn't go ramble off my nieces and nephews. It's like an I'm on TV, I'm shouting at my family thing.
01:14:07
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It's like a very normal thing to do. It's a thing you could have done in 2011. If you did this in 2025, you'd be like, you're on TV? That's so cringe. yeah but we have we have like tick tock uh like uh attention span well that won't matter in about a couple days because tick tock is gonna be banned in the united states but just in the states from my cold dead hands although have a red note account now Yeah, we we we got to introduce ah all all the Western stuff to the Chinese and the Chinese are going to introduce all the Western stuff to us.
01:14:41
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ah But like, but this is kind of like kind of the gist of this episode. It's the whole shtick is like we're heroes in class. I do. I do want to add one other thing about the the nurse.
01:14:55
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is always wondered through like watching these two episodes, like what it like how do they manage time-wise like all the people who have to go through this course? like They have to have a cutoff at some point.
01:15:09
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As watching people get between 1 minute 40 to 4 minute time windows, basically. They actually show her climbing up the ladder to the last the last obstacle.
01:15:22
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ah And the buzzer goes off because it hit the 20 minute time limit. And I'm like, why would you show that? Well, that happened quite a time they Yeah, but, like, they they they show her timing out, and, like, it's it's she's clearly really upset about this, and it's, like, just the way that they shoot it, the way that they frame it, is just is very it's very slimy to me, and I don't like it.
01:15:49
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Well, look how they were talking about women earlier in the show. Like, it's very, it's slimy all around. Like, Yeah, I thought I found the bottom, but yet there was more depth to be had. We have more depth to come, don't worry. But this is like something weird about this version, which no other version does, is it doesn't have the timer on screen all the time when they're doing the obstacle course. Oh, that's really frustrating. Yeah, I'll with you on that one. Because the rest of them, and also, like, to bring out the British one again, on the British one, you would usually see, like,
01:16:21
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about a minute and a half of like most of them doing the obstacle course it would cut but you'd see most of them doing most obstacles unless they're really not important for the episode but you brought this point up earlier yeah there there's there's 50 minutes of 50 minutes of commercials right it's on BBC so it's 60 minutes Yeah, exactly. you You live in a more civilized country. and
01:16:47
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are Good God. As I was saying, the thing is that because we have 15 minutes eating up for commercials and we're not a civilized country like the United Kingdom or Sweden or France or whatever. Sweden's just 45 minutes too.
01:17:06
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Oh Christ. you Well, okay. I don't have an excuse The UK weird. We're one of the only ones, because in the UK on um the BBC channels, the only adverts you'll get is about two minutes of adverts for other shows and other BBC stuff between episodes or between programs.
01:17:24
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Yeah. They do the little like shrink the credits and do a little talk over of like coming up next on the BBC.
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01:17:30
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Yeah. be like coming up next on BBC one, we have homes under the hammer followed by followed by like something else blah blah blah and but most channels do still have adverts and this the canadian one was shown in the uk as was the american one i did see them when i was growing up but they were shown on challenge which is which is the tv channel just for game shows ah the game show and quiz so exclusive channel
01:17:58
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see How much culture shock was that? like I mean, all the Canadianisms. A little bit, but the thing about British kids TV is British kids TV is quite diverse in terms of Commonwealth content.
01:18:14
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So a lot of the shows we would grow up watching, a lot of them were filmed in in the UK, but quite a few of them would be Australian or Canadian or less to a lesser extent, South African. You rarely see South African stuff.
01:18:28
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But yeah there was a lot of Australian stuff and a lot of Canadian stuff on British kids TV when I was growing up. so So moving on to like more grown up TV when I was when I grew out of of the baby kids TV.
01:18:42
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I was both moving on to we had Sky, which is like the satellite TV in in the UK or cable, like I guess you'd call it over there. We had the satellite because we differentiate. Yeah. And and that.
01:18:55
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had Disney Channel, so that was, like, most of what we watched past, like, a certain point instead of the UK TV. But then it also had a bunch of random channels where they would just show repeats of game shows from, like, other countries and from, like, 20 years ago.
01:19:13
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Like, the one that just alternated between this, the American version, and then the the British game show ah Bullseye, which was... which We don't need to get into, but it's an insane show.
01:19:26
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See, my only exposure the UK and Britain as a kid was through Thomas the Tank Engine and Postman Pat.
01:19:36
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Fuck off, do not remind me of Postman Pat. Those were the two things. That was my only exposure to like what like the UK and Britain were like. And Thomas the Tank Engine isn't even set in the UK, technically.
01:19:50
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You know, set in as technically the ah derivative of the Isle of Man. Yeah, it's the Isle of Man. Well, hell it's ah it's ah it's an apocalyptic hell state ruled by trains. But... yes Actually, it's ruined by the by the Fat Conductor.
01:20:03
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yeah Yeah, but we can't call him that anymore because of Woke. yeah and so so moving away from this episode there's one thing that sort of irritates me about this have any of you noticed that the tv show uses a theme song to to see do do do that one yes keep that in mind for later because we're going to talk about that after the next episode but i wanted that because i'm glad that you do remember it But like because this is Canadian content, supposedly. It's same on every single version.
01:20:36
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Cool. So going to come back to this because I actually want to, I realize I went a little ahead here. So this is Canadian content.
01:20:47
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I guess it's hard to say if if it met the requirements. the If it did so, it's only technically. Yeah. So as we mentioned in the previous episode about Video and Arcade Top 10, a previous episode, this is going several months back, we spoke about the requirements for Canadian content. And this did get support from Actra and that sort of thing, meaning that they went out of their way to make certain that Canadians were involved.
01:21:14
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So to give you a little bit of a background here, aside from what Aoife just told us about its origins, ah this was show was created, and I put this in air quotes, by Lone Eagle Entertainment of Toronto.
01:21:28
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And they're known for other shows such as You Gotta Eat Here, Pop Stars, and Hooked Up. You Gotta Eat Here is the only show of those three that I've watched.
01:21:42
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And if you go into random restaurants in Canada, you will see stickers that show it. um for tam's sake if you go to like meat on maine it has that sticker on the window is that what that means yes it's because it showed up on food network and so okay i'm gonna tell you about the two other shows that this production company has made So the first show is Popstars.
01:22:06
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Popstars is a... Popstars, the one, is an insider's look into the search for Canada's next major solo singing star.
Other Reality Shows: 'Popstars' and 'Hooked Up'
01:22:15
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The third chapter in the country's most watched series begins by following judges as they travel cross-country from Vancouver, British Columbia, to St. John's, Newfoundland, auditioning male and female wannabe singing sensations.
01:22:29
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On the unprecedented... eight city tour of canada are the judges writer slash producer paul myers erica m and former much music vj and comedian jason rouse whose job it is to filter through the mass number of wannabes from coast to coast so that was one of the really mind the b list canadian version of pop idol yeah and the thing is is i i've seen i have seen commercials for it in the past i never gave it any uh attention and i believe it only got three series however eight cities stops means like they didn't even stop in every province no it's like they said eight cities and like what does that mean it's probably vancouver calgary winnipeg toronto ottawa montreal halifax and st john's so that gives you eight so that's that's my guess that that's that's me spitballing but it's probably right
01:23:19
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And, but the other show in particular, and I kind of want to watch this as a torture session for Tamadai at some point. Oh, no, it's called hooked up.
01:23:31
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And hooked up. is This is what I think it is hooked up takes 20. twenty I'm going to read this whole thing here because this is just amazing. Hooked Up takes 20 hot singles on a journey to find their perfect mate.
01:23:42
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Viewers witness the rocky road of love and betrayal in this unscripted and unpredictable wild series as singles set a course for true love. 20 singles set off on a multi-week adventure in the Rocky Mountains.
01:23:54
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The charismatic men and women finally meet with the hope of meeting that special someone. They are, however, faced with the prospect that anything goes in the game of love. Hooked Up introduces the group to an adventure of a lifetime that will force the singles to make gut-wrenching decisions.
01:24:10
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In each episode, cuts must be made, forcing the singles to eliminate their peers. From speed dating to intimate evenings alone in the backcountry lodges, the relationships become more complicated as...
01:24:23
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the singles start to make strong emotional connections. Wild adventure-filled days and romantic nights are the ingredients for great one-on-one time that allows cast members to experience love, lust, desire, and heartbreak.
01:24:38
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In the end, two people hook up.
01:24:43
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So, like, dating shows I find incredibly cringe, but I'm i'm like a i'm a sex and romance repulsed aero ace, like... It's all ick to me. but like, it just seems really cruel how they just like set up these shows to like, like the AI one where there's like a fucking lava lamp that dictates what people have to do.
01:25:08
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oh I love dating shows so much. I watch so many of them. I am okay I will admit eagerly with my ex spouse would watch The Bachelor or Bachelorette the bachelor and I would oh I would just hate on every person coming up I would nitpick all of them that come in just to kind of be like.
01:25:26
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Yeah, like my one, my favorite memory of The Bachelor was when the twins were on in 2015 or 2016, and they were trying to court the guy, like both of them. And it was like the most awkward shit I've ever watched on television. It's like the two of them want to get the engagement ring from the guy, but it's like they what's going to happen? Like, you can't do a triad with them because that's going to be fucking weird.
01:25:49
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And so, yeah. yes so that's the problem there's nothing you could do that makes it and it makes because you're going end up with a sad story regardless so you end up projecting the both of them but it's like i i like these sort of shows just because they're such fucking wrecks but yeah love is love is blind which i think is the one you mentioned the ai robot one is particularly evil by comparison um compared to Love Island, which is the giant thing in the UK.
01:26:19
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don't know if that's left in the UK. Yeah, like, Love is Blind, like, combines, like, actual torture with normal dating show torture. It's a very Korean dating show. There's lots of Korean dating shows that quite similar.
01:26:35
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Yeah, it's just it's the first to like breach containment and enter the Anglosphere. So with dating comes family and that is going to be the next episode. So let's dive right in.
01:26:46
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The Wipeout Course. Like Christmas morning, it's a hallowed family tradition. Like the Thanksgiving dinner table, it's among the most notable fields of combat in human history. And like Easter, there are surprises around every corner.
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01:27:01
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Welcome one and all to wipe out Canada's first ever family smackdown. My brother thinks he's strong, but that fool is wrong. I ain't family grand.
01:27:13
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So she, you know, if any of you are familiar, with Stone Cold Steve Austin from WWE. w e From Steve Austin's training ranch. No. Okay. Or that, I guess. She ends up like doing the whole suck it thing with her hands. on what And when she's talking about her brother and I just went like, I'm sorry, what?
01:27:30
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o so this is the family episode and i kind of made it a point to not talk uh look too much into them yeah but it i will say this two things number one this actually is the only episode with the best placing of a woman um that's carly plett uh she's a active in the film industry in vancouver Yeah, she got third.
01:27:53
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But we also did get a interview with one of the contestants. This is with Jonathan Ruse. Ruse? Ruse? Whichever it is. He's the one with a weird stash the whole time. And they don't hide the fact that they're in Argentina on the Wipeout official blog.
01:28:09
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Mm-hmm. This is the Wipeout Kids blog, I should make clear. i don't just like the idea of kids doing Wipeout. Oh, it exists. I haven't seen it, but it sounds torturous.
01:28:21
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I mean, that's basically just the fucking like jungle gym places in like for kids. It's basically all Wipeout is. It's just the adult version of that. I've just had a vision. That's why the final...
01:28:36
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That's why the final round is just so like, i would like to do that. There was a Canadian there was a canadian game show that was on when i was a child. called splat a lot it aired about the same year as 2011 that was a canadian show that might have been ytv show if it's called splat splat a lot it was okay and it was it was basically this but for kids um and medieval themed so there were similar shows doing it and and yeah that was so that was another exposure of of me to young canadian children
01:29:10
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Yeah, because there was also, like, there was the field challenges of the Uh-Oh television series where they went around Canada and, like, set up these, like, weird obstacle courses. Although they're more, like, physically awkward challenges than, like, going on like padded obstacles and things like that because they're set up basically like very cheaply in a school this is going to be a bonus episode at some point i'm going to talk about uh-oh because i have i have a lot to say about it and there's a lot of tv why tv is just a treasure trove of stuff for us to talk about why tv was amazing
01:29:43
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the um So going back to the blog here, there's a couple of questions. One of them opens up here with, how cool was it for you to be able to share this experience with your mom? Jonathan being the winner of this particular episode. We'll talk about the characters in a moment. It was so cool to be able to share this experience with my mom. Everyone at home says that she's so cool because she plays sports with us and has always participated in activities.
01:30:03
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Now she was on Wipeout Canada. How cool was this? How did your friends and family react when you were crowned Wipeout Canada champion? My house exploded. i had people over to watch it. And when it hit the buzzer, everyone just started screaming.
01:30:15
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I couldn't see the TV. So I thought everyone just assumed I had won. I didn't realize they had posted the time right away. I just stood with a stupid grin. Ha ha. And then he gets asked, do you have anything fun you want to spend ah part of the winnings on?
01:30:29
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I like to do a few trips. That's for sure. I have family in Ecuador, so I'd like to go visit them and then backpack down and around there. Australia and Thailand are high on my list too. However, school takes priority for now.
01:30:40
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I have considered doing a semester abroad, so the winnings could help a lot. And then finally, what's next on the bucket list? Anything extreme? I want to try skydiving. That would be a thrill. I also want to do more reality TV shows. Ha ha. Wipe out Canada season two, baby.
01:30:55
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Well, we'll talk about season two. That guy seems like a treat. i was I was glad he won. He reminds me of a call a co-worker of mine, admittedly. Since we're talking about family, let's talk about one family in particular.
01:31:08
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Finally, family getting along. Kind of. Let's have more of that. Well, there's getting along because you want to. Then there's getting along because your controlling wife makes you. What are we, some kind of trashy talk show all of a sudden?
01:31:20
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husbands and the wives that control them coming up on the next ms it's a growing trend a result of the sensitive 90s guy thing perhaps whatever the case couples where a domineering wife gets anything she wants are increasingly common meet our first guests pam greenley and tim real a married couple from london ontario who make a not so great team with a not so great name Team Dinkwad! Explain Team Dinkwad to me, please. A Dinkwad is double income, no kids, with a dog.
01:31:53
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okay. I don't cook, I don't clean, I don't do laundry. I won't do anything around the house at all. What are your daily duties at the house? Feed the dog, feed the laundry, vacuuming. She has no idea what color the vacuum is.
01:32:05
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Oh! ah Now, joining us as usual is pretend doctor of psychology, Mil Fagra. Thank you doctor. No surprise hearing this. Okay, so that's Team Dinkwad. That is Pam and Tim of London, Ontario. So I looked into them because I wanted to know what the fuck is going on with these two. Like, I'm i'm not...
01:32:26
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unfamiliar with dinks um technically i'm a i'm a sink i'm a single income no kids with a cat i'm a sink wad you're a sink wad you're a sink wad i'm a sink walk uh ifo would you call yourself a s sink i've never heard this before in my life you've never heard of a dink think i yeah don't ah think this is a thing in this country did I think this is an Americanism.
01:32:51
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I got introduced to it through the television series Doug. Oh, God. Mr. and Mrs. Dink. like the their Their name wasn't like a like a genitals joke. It was because they're literally double income, no kids.
01:33:05
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That's why he had all these hobbies and projects. Because they had two incomes and no kids. So, Tim and Pam...
01:33:16
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Pam is a hairstylist. That's what I found out about her. She runs, ah she manages a hair salon. That's the thing I figured out about her. So she does work. And then Tim, I could not figure out anything about him. I did a little bit digging, but I think the two of them are divorced now.
01:33:33
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And I am for some reason, based off the relationship dynamics that were like presented in this show, it didn't exactly shock me to learn this. Yeah, there's a little bit of bitterness when he was going over that. Like third they like this next the next couple that comes up that i i'm I'm sure you have a drop for. that They seem to be a little bit more played up.
01:33:54
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Yeah, I don't have any more of a Team Dinkwad to share with y'all because like I just didn't want to like make her listeners have to endure more of this nonsense. But this particular couple, I just kind of went, so boy are they into the kink scene? Because that's kind of the vibe I was getting from these two. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, I just, I don't know.
01:34:20
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That's Team Dinkwad. I'm sorry for introducing you to the term dink there, Aoifeh. Yeah. No, that's new. I only came up with Zinc now, but I imagine I'm not the first person to talk about it.
01:34:32
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But then we also end up with a father-son duo, and I got really sick and tired of this, so i'm going to but I'm going to play this. When was your first kiss?
01:34:43
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No first kiss. Aw, when you think you'll have your first kiss? If I win $50,000, feel free to call anytime. Enter phone number here.
01:34:54
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Very nice guy. Ouch. Does he also have a great personality? Nice. Might be the kiss of death, but on the bright side, maybe that counts as his first kiss. So underneath, it was a chyron of sorts that said 1555, desperate underneath him.
01:35:10
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and Yeah. I did not enjoy this bit. As a weird ace kid whose friends and sometimes father would, like, try to shop me around to random women, like...
01:35:23
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i i felt this so hard that like let if the kid's not interested or if he's not dating that's fine it's okay it's permissible we actually he gets a little bit of a comeuppance later ah when like because he he makes it to the final round i'm not sure if i'm skipping too far ahead skipping too far ahead But he he gets a little comeuppance later where the the hostess Jessica goes in for a hug. Oh, no, let's let's let's let's just play that. It's better played out if we do this. Good work.
01:35:54
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Give me hug. Thank you. Give me a kiss. Give me kiss. Oh, he didn't even want to kiss me. Oh, man, the biggest wipeout of the whole competition. Dude. John Jr. about to enjoy a fantasy held by the majority of our viewers failed hard. No wonder he's never been kissed. He doesn't know how. Aw.
01:36:13
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Shut down by a 19 year old who's never been kissed before. It's brutal. See, I see this as a win. Like, good on you, John, for boundaries, not wanting to kiss a random woman. Like, fucking go, King. He's the real winner of this episode.
01:36:30
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This. You didn't take. The thing about him and his dad is his dad seems incredibly athletic for his age. like oh fuck you yeah they were rid when he goes on the second round like holy shit and they were really reminding me of um there's one episode of seinfeld where there's these three old men like who are like three generations of a family who are like all incredibly aesthetic and i just kept thinking of like mandelbaum mandelbaum mandelbaum for that whole yeah every time they show up
01:37:04
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Like, he's clearly an older... He was an older parent, so, like, he's he's in his fifty s with ah with a late teen son. Yeah. And, man, like, once he got over the dizzies, he fucking booked it over the tables.
01:37:19
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like Like, nothing. Yeah. Oh, this was the episode that had a lot of... Or was it the last one that had, like, a lot of vomiting? Yeah. this one This one had all the casualties. Like half of the contestants from the second round bowed out due to injury. Going back to the kid, i i kind of feel like it's possible that Jessica was egged on to do this with the kid.
01:37:41
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ah Probably. Because it's just really strange. Like Jessica, Jessica's only a year older than me. And i you know, this would have put her as, you know,
01:37:53
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27 28 29 years old at this point um in the show it's like 17 she would have been 27 years old now i think about and like he's 19 oh he's 19 19 it's like okay it's very creepy like i've made questionable decisions in my dating life yeah it's just gross it's ick it's so ick this this screamed producer interference and i'm not saying that the producer did do that but like this is the sort of thing that i could see a slimy producer doing this but then again we're filming this in argentina so we can avoid certain health and safety rules
01:38:32
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who knows what sort of other slimy shit was going on. Like there's so little, like there's very few details about like how the production of this was going down. And obviously to be on a show like this, you got to sign and a non-disclosure agreement.
Production Critiques and Logistical Challenges
01:38:46
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And like Glenn McCharles is like the best we've ever seen in terms of like the mentality it exists around this show. But like we, he doesn't say anything about being on this show. And that's probably because he's bound to not say like We were talking about like all the injuries, people like vomiting. who knows like probably getting Somebody has to have gotten a concussion on this show because you're getting punched in the fucking head. and you know like who like Those things are not disclosed.
01:39:12
Speaker
ah On top of that, it's in Argentina. You're going to get sent to a hospital there. It's not going to necessarily follow you to here. like it's Wipeout Canada, to me, feels like one of the scummiest TV shows I've ever watched in the past 40 years.
01:39:28
Speaker
15 years. It gets a lot deeper. If you get into the whole like, game show, like, physical obstacle-based game shows that came out in the wake of this, it gets so much worse.
01:39:41
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The worst... becomes a race to the bottom, right? The worst one is probably... It was... um There's a great Jenny Nicholson video on it, and it's it it was... God, what was it called? It was called like Time Opposites or something.
01:39:53
Speaker
and And genuinely so many people got horrifically injured on it. But they kept going and it because it was it was broadcast live so they couldn't stop. and oh yeah they they can't just cut it out we're like episode 13 here i think was what was the was one where they just there were so many that they couldn't like just gloss them over be like oh yeah that person just didn't get very far they totally didn't like roll their ankle or pass out of heat exhaustion yeah definitely um i'm just trying to grab the name of this game show yeah so jamie x i made a video a couple of years ago well
01:40:31
Speaker
a couple of years ago now meaning six years ago fucking hell um called the worst reality tv show of all time um and it's it's a show called opposite worlds which is a absolutely grim game show based around like the gimmick is that half of them are meant to be in the future and half of them in the past um it's it's It's so much. it's It's kind of more Survivor than it is Total Wipeout, but it's another physical game show with a lot of injuries.
01:41:05
Speaker
Oh, okay. it But that's kind of like it. like We could never film a Wipeout Canada in Canada. the the The requirements to do so would be so stringent.
01:41:19
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And I guess it would probably be even easier now to do it in Argentina, considering their current president would probably... Actually, let me check, because they rebooted American Wipeout a couple of years ago, hosted by John Cena. Oh, I'm going to talk about American Wipeout, actually. um buts I don't know if that claims strictly true, though, because Takeshi's Castle was filmed in Japan. Yeah, but Japan has, at the time, original Takeshi's Castle and original Ninja Warrior were filmed.
01:41:51
Speaker
I don't think they had a huge number of... health and safety regulations around TV. Yeah, and actually, this kind of segues into um into like what happened to White Pout after all this. So there wast ah there was an episode that came after that. They called them the White Beasts.
01:42:08
Speaker
which is a very unfortunate name. I wouldn't have called it that, admittedly. it's out But maybe they were going for a poop joke. Who knows? Was it brought to you by Charmin? Well, it would have been Sponge Towels, which I think Scott. Oh, yeah.
01:42:23
Speaker
It would have been Sponge Towels. But nonetheless, like they never they mate alluded they alluded to saying, oh, we're going to have a season two. But there wasn't a season two. I do think that this show was logistically difficult for them to film, not only because it was in Argentina, but because meeting CanCon requirements while filming this in Argentina must have been incredibly difficult.
01:42:46
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And the other thing is, this like like i mentioned when we were talking about the contestant forums, there's also requirements to get people to have a passport and have have the ability to enter into Argentina.
01:42:58
Speaker
And while it's not very common around the 2010s to have a passport, because you used to at the time, you didn't necessarily need one to enter the United States. No, by that point, this was different. So 2003.
01:43:11
Speaker
four or five was the first year that you were able to cross, you were ah required to have a passport to enter the United States. And that's when a lot of Canadians started picking up passports for themselves.
01:43:22
Speaker
So by 2010, 2011, it wasn't unheard of for Canadians, majority of Canadians to have passports. It's still unheard of for a lot of Americans to have passports. Admittedly, there's, I think it's like a much smaller percentage, but because we're so close to the States, we do generally have a lot of passports, but,
01:43:40
Speaker
That still is one requirement for you to go visit Argentina. And then on top of that, like you're bringing, what, 250 people down to Argentina. Multiply that by, say, even though if you're going to do charter flights, you're probably looking at about, you know, $1,500 to $2,000 per contestant to fly them down for who knows how long.
01:44:00
Speaker
Have lodgings put aside for them. like I wasn't able to find any details about like what the the housing conditions were for them during this. But like you have to cut corners in order to do this. like The food couldn't have been all that great. like It could have been very subpar because, again, cutting corners.
01:44:18
Speaker
like The whole thing on this show just reeked. Of being done on a budget. ah just want to add a little point of order. um So Wipeout Quebec, which ran on Nouveau, which was V at the time, ran for 30 episodes and also was filmed in Argentina. The UK one, which was also filmed in Argentina, ran for six seasons.
01:44:48
Speaker
um The American one also ran for six seasons. ah so i'm I'm also going to add to this like yes yeah there was a lot of logistical concerns and all that sort of stuff there's also clearly some skill issue yeah but let's just wasn't I do wonder with the Canadian one Canadian audiences can already just watch the American one they can already just watch yeah British one they can already watch because if you look at the other if you look at sort of a lot of the international versions, the ones which succeed are the ones which are aimed at a quite niche or unique market.
01:45:25
Speaker
So the Scandinavian one goes for three seasons because you can't... So I have a theory about why it only lasted one series or a season on TVtropolis and Quebec managed to get 30 episodes.
01:45:41
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so round There was still only one season of 30 episodes. Holy shit, the Dutch got 148 episodes. and so So just to bring this back to Canada, is that this was a this was a show on TVtropolis, which prior to ah some point in 2010, I believe it would have been June of 2010. Mm hmm.
01:46:02
Speaker
It was owned by Can West. um Can West, just Can West, sorry. That's the name of the company. And Can West, until 2010, was actually an entity that exists in Canada. It was a major media company. It had been around for ah probably about four decades at that point.
01:46:20
Speaker
And it went into bankruptcy. And then Shaw Media picked it up, meaning that by that point, they flew everybody out there for filming in October. They would have had to have budgeted it. well in advance. It wasn't like something that was actually brand new. and And Can West was doing massive cuts prior to them being acquired by Shaw Media.
01:46:38
Speaker
My guess is that this was all they were going to do. And then when Shaw Media took over um things like TV tropos and all that. It didn't fit into what they were looking to do.
01:46:49
Speaker
This is when they rebranded it to detour. And they just said, yeah, that's it. That we're not doing another series season of this. It's not getting us like, look at the numbers for this. What were the ratings and so forth.
01:47:00
Speaker
And that is my theory about this. yeah I don't have any details about the ratings for it overall. It was, it was really hard to figure anything out.
01:47:13
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Jessica's Twitter no longer exists. And, you know, this, it's just, there's the details about this are just scarce. And i personally think that this is just a victim of can West, to just can West going under.
01:47:28
Speaker
It's very possible. Yeah. Whereas Wipeout Quebec was a Bell Media production, which is still around. Well, okay, V and Nouveau also had a very similar thing, but that like their their changing of hands happened ah quite a bit later. So if you might be right.
01:47:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's my theory. I don't think necessarily think it's correct, but that's why we only got 13 episodes of it, and we're realistically
Music, Prize Disparities, and Editing Critiques
01:47:57
Speaker
14. But yeah, that is Wipeout Canada. And we were talking... um This probably won't make into the episode from earlier, but I was mentioning the theme song to this.
01:48:09
Speaker
Can you like make that sound there, Aoife? Yeah. but doo do do do do do do do doo do That one. I think it's more like... <unk> is Can you think of any song that might match that pattern by any chance?
01:48:23
Speaker
No, I can't.
01:48:29
Speaker
see so No. Every time I kept hearing that that little but little um bit inside of the Wipeout theme, I was... no No, it can't be, but apparently it is.
01:48:43
Speaker
I'm being American
01:48:49
Speaker
idiot. Wow. that was that that is That's the way my brain works. Unfortunately, it's very good at these stupid patterns, and I'm really good at recognizing music. Too much of Aoife's annoyance when we watch films together.
01:49:05
Speaker
um it's i can pick these stupid things out from thin air, and every time I kept watching Wipeout, i was like, why am I hearing American Idiot every time? this plays like and you this is the theme song that's used in all of the ah versions that you' so that's the one that was done in the original american version and it's part of the larger package that got sold by the production company to the individual production company must have lifted it from there it would make perfect sense considering the name it's very possible
01:49:37
Speaker
I do have one more point to make about the foreign ones. and Sure. So at the start, we we were talking about the 50,000 Canadian dollars being the prize pool, which is the same as the 50,000 US dollars in the American one.
01:49:50
Speaker
In the Scandinavian one, the prize is 50,000 krona, which is about 5,000 krona. Yeah, that sounds... i was going to say, I have... It's actually less. Oh my god.
01:50:01
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Yeah.
01:50:03
Speaker
I forget what the British prize was. i don't There may have not been a prize, actually, because it's a BBC show. ah it was ยฃ10,000. I look forward to the Romanian one, which is ยฃ5,000 of the old lei, which is about $5. I was going to say, if this was Icelandic kroner, it would have been like $500 or something like that. Well, there was a White Power Iceland, but it doesn't have a Wikipedia page, and I couldn't find because i i know enough icelandic to watch it but i couldn't find a recording of it anywhere actually i would have been in iceland around the time it was recorded because i considering when this show was sort of on the air it would have been about the time it was e in 2009 in iceland oh okay it would have been uh just oh that must have been a very interesting time to film such a show considering what iceland was going through financially got a free trip to argentina
01:50:58
Speaker
Oh, you know, considering what I've been Iceland and Iceland and Argentina, having i haven't been Argentina, but I've been to Peru and I know exactly what the climates are like in the South America. That would have been a huge shock.
01:51:10
Speaker
and Did Wipeout Iceland by any chance have an episode that's all investment bankers for some reason? One of you does not get to go through the guillotine. Anyway.
01:51:23
Speaker
um so the grand prize is you get to stay in argentina and avoid prosecution so what what are y'all's thoughts on wipeout as a show overall like we could talk about the hosts we could talk about the concepts it just doesn't hold up to the version from my childhood like comparing it to the uk one i hate richard hammond with a passion he's the guy who hosts the uk one um and then top gear fame yeah but he's a good host on it and i think it comes across as a bit less rushed a bit more professional and a bit less mean as well which is insane to say for like like 2000s into twenty ten s british tv but yeah this this just came across as really mean really kind of yeah they're really cruel and yeah
01:52:16
Speaker
Weirdly edited as well. The editing is what threw me. Yeah, the the editing decisions are absolutely perplexing, like, with how, like, just chopped up it is. Like, I find the first segment of Wipeout Canada to be, like, utterly disorienting.
01:52:35
Speaker
with how they just jump like they do an intro they show like in some cases as little as like 10 seconds of their run and then it's another intro and you're like whoa what that like what what is going on here i think the show would have worked better if it wasn't 12 people per episode or 24 one case It would have been better if like maybe it was like six or eight. Like if they just reduced it by by a couple of contestants, you could have learned a little bit more about them. Like out of all the people we ever spoke about on the show, the only person we spoke about in depth is, well, Glenn McCharles. I guess we also spoke about ah the school teacher, Bates.
01:53:17
Speaker
ah wendyway yeah Wendy Swain. And, you know, those are the only two names that I you know care to regurgitate because, you know, we don't really get to know much about them. In fact, Glenn McCharles is the only person that really had any airtime outside of... Because, yeah like he didn't win, but he still managed to like get a bit at the very end of that first episode.
01:53:45
Speaker
o yeah exactly like he he they they needed to basically like shrink the contestant pool and maybe coach them a little bit more into like a slightly more interesting and interactive personalities although having the hosts in a like separate temporally distant but somewhere in toronto i guess Yeah, really, really hindered their ability to like really integrate the cast and the contestants.
01:54:16
Speaker
I did also wonder that because the recording studio that hosts are in is a standard setup for every single version, pretty much. like Obviously, it's very easy to reproduce on a soundstage someone sitting in front of a screen. you say It's great to be on a green screen the whole time. like I think the two of them were just in some room and they did this over the course of like a few days or whatever. like They had to change clothing and everything. I don't think they wore the same clothing twice. There was lots of costume changes and stuff because they there was lots of visual bits they liked to do. they Jessica was the one who had to endure the most. and
01:54:53
Speaker
ah I will say this. Jessica was actually someone I liked. yeah the bit with John Jr. and her jacket the bit with John Jr. is a little gross but like yeah her fits were always pretty good her hair was done very nicely she's mostly pretty funny yes and highly tolerant of the contestants bullshit yes i larry a very yes and kind of person yeah her jacket's really cute yeah and it's like a standard part of the formula is like there's a relatively attractive woman on the ground
01:55:26
Speaker
Except in the Spanish version, where like the only host was a woman. Oh. Because there's some versions where there's like only a single host. Oh, that's weird. I feel like the commentary, like studio commentary, is actually kind of superfluous, so I can see that.
01:55:44
Speaker
ah Yeah, I wonder to what extent it was kind of taken from Takeshi's Castle, which had the... I'm thinking so....monster, and Ninja Warrior as well, where they were Japanese programs that had been bought and re-edited for Western audiences. Ninja Warrior is a very different creature from those two shows. Takeshi's Castle is more in line with Wipeout than an American Ninja Warrior.
01:56:07
Speaker
Yeah, not just about Ninja Warrior, I'm talking about Ninja Warrior. let's clarify that. yeah That's right, yeah. But... But yeah, my overall opinion on Wipeout Canada is ah you introduced this to me. It was off my radar for the past 14 years.
01:56:25
Speaker
And if it weren't for you, I probably would have never given it any time. And it's that that tells you much about the show in general. like Unless you actually had a subscription to TVTropolis at the time, which meant that you would have been paying for extended cable, paying $10 a month or whatever for the fucking stupid package that you would have to get to get that channel.
Channel Reach and Safety Concerns
01:56:44
Speaker
Nobody really watched it. And then, of course, like with something like Wipeout in the United States, it got airtime on ABC. Wipeout in the UK got airtime on the BBC. So there you go, your mainline channels. So like it was destined to not really go anywhere.
01:57:00
Speaker
but But to close off, like we said, there's unlikely to be ever another season of it for a variety of reasons. but So somebody actually has died on Wipeout, not in Canada.
01:57:11
Speaker
I'm not surprised. This is from the Atlantic. Sorry, this is from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. And 38-year-old man collapsed during the taping of the TBS show Wipeout. He had a heart attack.
01:57:26
Speaker
ah Michael ah Paredes lost consciousness after falling on the show's obstacle course November 18th and died the next day. So this... OK, so it says updated on February 1st, I should say.
01:57:38
Speaker
And the coroner's office, according to NBC's today, has determined that he suffered from an undetected coronary artery disease. ah He was free of alcohol and drugs when he died. So gives you kind of an idea.
01:57:50
Speaker
And, you know, they were all given medical exams. And because it was the 2020s, they had to do COVID-19 test. And ah it was ah in April of that year, TBS announced that they'd order 20 episodes. So like it hadn't been on the air for almost six years and they were recording it once again.
01:58:09
Speaker
I never bothered to watch that Wipeout. I don't really watch broadcast television. But yeah, somebody has died on Wipeout. And it's still going. Yeah, okay.
01:58:20
Speaker
At least for that, like i would have expected somebody to die of heat stroke. And like definitely people have had concussions because that shit can go undetected and they definitely aren't going out of their way.
01:58:33
Speaker
they definitely aren't going out of their way to to provide care that that felt that much is very clear but like is somebody somebody having a like a coronary event or a heart attack like while filming a show where you're being active that's kind of just bound to happen so like that's actually the fact that that's the one fatality is kind of almost paints them in kind of a good light because like the things i'd be worried about for argentina are heat stroke the thing i would also note is this was done on the tbs reboot in 2021 which was filmed in the states which was filmed in the states so this didn't happen in argentina okay wow this is the reboot that the most recent series started airing is currently airing in the u.s so it's still going they're still making it
01:59:26
Speaker
Wait, so this this guy was a victim of US healthcare? Yes. I guess so. Yeah, well, as they say on the show, these are 20 people who have free universal healthcare. At the start of the show, they mentioned that.
01:59:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's because they probably got travel insurance through like, ah well, I guess that's not free healthcare, but they probably got travel insurance when they, when they went. I think it was probably a Canada job at the US.
01:59:52
Speaker
I realized. Yeah, for sure. I realized earlier I said not having 12 people on, I meant 20. yeah uh like having uh jabs at the u.s health care system is like especially in the 2010s was a very canadian thing like we're the land of free we're like they're the head they're the land of the free we're supposed to be part of the united states we're supposed to be the fifth well they're they're they're in the land of the free we're in the land of the free health care yeah exactly unless Unless you're wanting care for your luxury bones of teeth or your luxury organs of eyes or ah or actually need medicine.
02:00:32
Speaker
Well, I think we're going to ah call this ah this episode, but Itha, I want to say thank you for coming on, um being our first porn guest. Yeah, I've enjoyed it.
02:00:43
Speaker
I was really glad that we got to meet and make friends and then you introducing me to ah something that i I don't know. i feel like my life would have been better without it, but I'm not upset with you anyway. hence Yeah, the quality of my life has definitely degraded after watching these three episodes.
02:01:04
Speaker
ah if If people want more Aoife, where can they find you? Well, um I stream on Twitch. um You can find me on twitch.tv slash postmpanda. Variety of content.
02:01:15
Speaker
Currently, I'm playing through the game Bloodborne, um as well as various other things. All the other links to everything else is on the Twitch channel. So if you want to find my Twitter, my blue sky, everything else is all on there. So just go to twitch.tv slash pros and panda.
02:01:30
Speaker
yeah And it will also be in the description. yeah, we'll put that in the description. Thank you. You're welcome. On that note, Tam, I think we're doing Hodeshone as our next episode after this.
02:01:41
Speaker
That is the next regular episode. Finally, part two. yeah Learn the tale of Hiawatha. We haven't worked out what our next bonus episode is going to be. We've been taking a little bit of a vacation for the past while. and But we're back and we will have more content coming soon. So um for those of you who are listening on Patreon, because this is where it's going to be, maybe in the future, unlock it if they announce a wipeout too. I doubt it.
02:02:07
Speaker
is ah yeah but thanks for just being a patron and if you're not a patron you got this episode through pirated means um cool anyway um goodbye everybody bye everyone
02:02:34
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