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EPISODE 102 - REVIEW: Brighton's FA Cup fairytale ends in heartbreaking fashion against Nottingham Forest
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Daily Brighton - WE'RE BACK! Jamie, Bless and Joe are joined by new podcaster Charley to talk about Brighton's FA Cup loss to Nottingham Forest, from the penalties to the snore draw that played out over 120 minutes.
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Podcast Returns and Updates
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome to the Daily Brighton podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network in partnership with Zencaster. Boys, we are back.
00:00:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
It has been quite a long time and we all have very, very, very, very valid reasons for why we were away.
00:00:25
Charley
Thank you.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I broke my leg on a ski trip and haven't been able to recover anymore. Bless was doing God's work in Zambia again, and Joe was recruiting the finest podcasting talent out there.
00:00:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he's found one to join the team, and that is the man joining us on this podcast right now. Charlie,
FA Cup Disappointment Discussion
00:00:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
your first show. How are we, mate? Yes.
00:00:49
Charley
Oh, that's a great intro. I feel like, I don't know what talent Joe was looking at as well, but I'll take that.
00:00:56
Joe
you
00:00:58
Charley
I've classed as quality podcasting talent, but no, I'm glad to be here.
00:01:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
no Good to have you. Joe, bless. How we feeling? It's been a long time away.
00:01:09
Joe
it's just good to be back mate you like feel like we've let people down a but obviously uh God's work in Zambia needs to be done you can't really do much about breaking your leg on a ski trip and it sounds like I was the only one that was actually working still so you know what I uh that's that's calm mate that sounds decent so yeah no it's it's good to be it's it's good to be back mate honestly
00:01:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:01:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fair play.
00:01:28
Blessings
But...
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Commitment to Brighton, Daily Brighton podcast.
00:01:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Well, it's good to be back, but under quite saddening and heartbreaking circumstances. Sorry to bring the mood down immediately, guys, but we have been knocked out the FA Cup.
00:01:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
The fairy tale is over. Wembley is no more. And our actual hopes of winning a trophy... look all but dusted or are dusted actually we could but is the premier league still possible who knows but yeah ah i don't think yeah like mathematically it's out but probably all but dusted charlie you're at the game uh what was the atmosphere like at the final whistle
00:01:59
Blessings
Thank you.
Game Atmosphere and Criticism
00:02:17
Charley
ah It was just, it was just heartbreaking. It's just the mood, the the whole game, actually, the atmosphere was pretty, but it was amazing. yeah Everyone was up for it. The fans were up for it. the play The players, to some extent, I want to say, were up for it.
00:02:30
Charley
Um, But yeah, it was just demoralizing. and I was there at Wembley two years ago when we lost on pens and that was just, that was heartbreaking. um But I kind of came to the realization that I don't actually like Wembley anyway.
00:02:45
Charley
It's, don't, it's not, why would you want to go
00:02:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
And...
00:02:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, it's...
00:02:50
Joe
It's pretty overrated and and the food's rubbish as well.
00:02:51
Charley
It's really, yeah, it's quite expensive.
00:02:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:53
Charley
The travel's a nightmare, yeah. it was just not worth it. So they've probably done us a favour, but no, it was just, yeah, a bit depressing to be honest.
00:03:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
And to do it in such a boring game, to be honest, it was quite a small draw. Bless, give me your thoughts on what you thought of the game when you're watching it, having to sit through 120 minutes of that.
Quality of Play and Match Analysis
00:03:16
Blessings
Yeah, a tough watch. Like, both teams I wasn't really impressed with. um Yeah, we just seemed a bit toothless up front at times. And the quality, I'm not going to lie, the quality I felt was really poor from both teams.
00:03:31
Blessings
um And it wasn't as entertaining as I thought it was going to be, um especially like for us being at home, the fans being buzzing for it the big boys out of it. So it was, it you know, it seemed like the team that wins um that court final and goes to the semi will have a really good chance.
00:03:53
Blessings
But yeah, was it wasn't to be, was it?
00:03:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. I mean, the FA Cup's overrated. I don't know how you feel about that, Joe, but i i I've said since the beginning, you know, i definitely said I didn't really care about this trophy and we should throw all our subs and focus all on the league.
00:04:00
Joe
Right.
00:04:02
Charley
yes
00:04:07
Joe
yeah
00:04:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I definitely said that if you go back to those Norwich podcasts.
00:04:13
Joe
but I'm going to be so real, mate. I hate... One, this is a ah hate podcast. i I hate Nottingham Forest with a burning passion. And I really hate Ryan Yates.
00:04:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:04:28
Joe
I've always hated him, mate. I hate him even more now. So, yeah, this is just every single time Nottingham Forest... I mean, the 7-0, it gave us great content. But, you know, it's not ideal to lose a 7-0, to be honest with you. Yeah.
00:04:42
Charley
Thank you.
00:04:42
Joe
And then, do you know what Like, it's just, like, the FA Cup is such a, it's probably the most prestigious, isn't it? Obviously, like, I mean, the Premier League ah is obviously the top, but in terms of, like, history, the FA Cup is the one, isn't it, really, in this country?
00:04:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:04:58
Joe
So, like, obviously, it would be, and like Blesse said, having so many teams out of it, bar City, like, um what was it? Is it, um we said this the other day, Blesse, is it four out of the, like, eight teams haven't won a cha haven't won a major trophy before.
00:05:13
Blessings
Yeah.
00:05:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:05:13
Charley
Thank
00:05:14
Joe
Well, if you count the championship, then whatever. But, you know, like, so the chance was there. But, you know, I think it's just not enough forest in it, mate. Hard team to play.
00:05:26
Joe
And terrible team to watch, but hard team to play. Yeah, here we are.
00:05:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Apparently our bogey team as well drew to them the first game through, i mean, I thought we actually should have won that game.
00:05:33
Joe
Yeah.
00:05:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then a 7-0 battering. That wasn't ideal.
00:05:41
Joe
Mm-hmm.
00:05:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
And now this, I mean, can we stop playing them for the next couple of seasons?
00:05:43
Charley
Thank you.
00:05:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
That'd be all right. Or hopefully one day we get vengeance and we can actually do a good podcast.
00:05:48
Blessings
Yeah.
00:05:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
After playing Nottingham Forest.
00:05:52
Joe
Mm-hmm.
00:05:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, i mean,
Inconsistent Performance and Defensive Challenges
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
bless you mentioned it and you hit a nail on the head earlier when you said it was just such a poor game and neither team, the quality was there with either team because, I mean, ourselves, we gave the way we gave away the ball so many times and we couldn't look to keep possession.
00:06:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
There were so many passages of play that were just untidy. And like, there was no link-up play either. ah don't know what it was like in the stadium. Was there frustration there, Charlie?
00:06:22
Charley
Yeah, I think particularly that's... I want to say until probably... there was I think probably 70 minutes, maybe 80 minutes, it was just nothing. and It was just like every sort of loose ball was being picked up.
00:06:34
Charley
But again, we didn't feel like they were a threat going forward, a coming at us either.
00:06:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:39
Charley
like they They obviously had a copy of they lot more corners. that They were a lot more, I think, more aggressive in their attacking. But again, there wasn't anything going forward. I think we stood our ground defensively probably quite well.
00:06:52
Charley
ah probably would say our defence was probably all right this game. um
00:06:55
Blessings
Amen.
00:06:56
Charley
I thought they would kind of tackle their wingers a bit but yeah I think it wasn't like at half time it was just a bit like hopefully not another 45 minutes of this and it kind of more or less was
00:07:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:07:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. um um Well, the um yeah the only bright spark was like the beginning of the second half. And we'll go on to some of the key points and key talking points, which there were very few of in the game in the next segment.
00:07:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, that was the only real bright spark of the whole game. And the only bit of intensity in it was the start of the second half where we actually looked like, oh yeah, Brighton actually on the front foot.
00:07:28
Charley
Just
00:07:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the Rutter shot as well. That was like, oh, let's get some momentum going. And... Then it just died out after, I think it might have been after the penalty shout, to be fair. That's when it completely died out again. And then the only time we saw it pick up again was the second half of the extra time. And it was like, why are they performing in such patches?
00:07:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was such like an inconsistent performance all round. And feel like they couldn't deal with like the physicality and intensity that Forrest were playing with. Bless what your thoughts were.
00:08:07
Blessings
Yeah, I totally agree with you. And and i I think that both teams just didn't want to lose the game. um We know when we've spoken about Forest so many times, and we know what they do in the counter-attack. We know they want to sit back and soak pressure up. But even they didn't seem like they, you know, really wanted to go and...
00:08:27
Blessings
um put that mark
Missed Opportunities Highlighted
00:08:29
Blessings
on game, get control of it and win it in the required time. And neither did we, I think. We were, yeah, just a little bit lacking a little bit of quality up front, um sort of sleepwalking into penalties, really, I think.
00:08:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, 13 shots each total. Two on target for us, five on target for them, and that's in 120 minutes of football. Well, we're going talking about some of those great highlight moments in this next segment after listen to our ad by Bionic.
00:08:54
Charley
Yeah.
00:09:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back with a Daily Brighton podcast. Let's talk about some of these chances then. ah I feel like Diego Gomez was the one that when he came on, all the big chances kind of fell to him.
00:09:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
he yeah had that one where Esther Pinian played him through and should have had it probably on the first time shot. Then he had another one with the probably the closest one that he had was the header from Gruda cross in the second half of extra time.
00:10:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Sells makes actually a great save and tips it over the bar. But Yeah, those were the only real chances, unless you count a Belieber shot ah from outside the box, that were actually...
00:10:16
Charley
You've got to count that.
00:10:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
he yeah I mean, it was great strike, to be fair.
00:10:18
Charley
count that.
00:10:19
Blessings
Mm-hmm.
00:10:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was an unreal strike. Broke poor bloke's camera.
00:10:22
Joe
he's also
00:10:22
Charley
and
00:10:23
Joe
He's broke like a four grand camera, mate.
00:10:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
the cat The guy... you Yeah.
00:10:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
He looked to devastated after his camera broke.
00:10:29
Charley
Why has he not taken a pen? Why has he not taken a and Should have been taken a pen then without a strike.
00:10:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
teacher Yeah. Joe, ah so run me through some of those chances or what you did you actually feel like we were ever going to score from those chances?
00:10:46
Joe
um I don't know. I feel like it's just when those sort of chances are falling to... mean, don't get me wrong. I think he he scored a few in the MLS and that, but it's not really ideal who it's falling to. know what I mean?
00:11:01
Joe
But I think when... Bless said it earlier about um the way that Nottingham Forest normally play, where they're sort sitting back and...
00:11:05
Charley
Thank you.
00:11:09
Joe
then they're looking to like sort of hit you on the counter. This is like the God-level tier of this line-up. that they've put I've got it right here. And I didn't ah didn't even clock, because I just think in my head, they've basically had the same line-up every game this season, not in the forest.
00:11:25
Joe
Danilo, he's right?
00:11:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:11:28
Joe
He's playing on the left. Ryan Yates, I don't know what he is. ah i can't say what I think he is, but he was in the 10th. Gibbs White on the right, and then Dominguez and Anderson.
00:11:39
Joe
This is this is this not hitting you on any counters, mate.
00:11:43
Charley
Thank
00:11:43
Joe
There's no counters here to be hit. And then you just know exactly what's going to happen. Calamance O'Doye and Alangra are going to appear. And then that's sort of where like the chances are going to come from.
00:11:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:11:54
Joe
But they've set up to not even, like Bles said, they didn't want to lose. That's it. And also, i feel like those chances that you were speaking about, not only are they falling to someone like Gomez, but they also it's also in like, it's not the same as like just a league game.
00:12:11
Joe
It's like the highest stakes where it's like you don't want to.
00:12:15
Charley
Thank
00:12:15
Joe
And also because they come so like they're coming so like rare, it's also even harder to sort of put those chances away.
00:12:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:24
Joe
So, I mean, and I'm sure i'm sure he would he's thinking, i've got to be burying a couple of them.
00:12:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:30
Joe
But like I can sort of understand oh it's in that situation and stuff like that.
00:12:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:36
Joe
But, yeah, if the chance of the forward is to, mate. Got to put it in the net, lad. I tried to make its excuses for him here, but, yeah.
00:12:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
but You mentioned one thing that you did mention there was the Forest lineup.
00:12:50
Charley
Thank
00:12:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that did that was actually something that really interested me when it first got and when I first looked at the team sheet. So many midfielders, I was like, they're either just going to sit back and defend and just say, we're not going to lose and then play for penalties, which is what it ultimately was.
00:13:00
Joe
Hmm.
00:13:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Or they like might keep possession and try and just out-possession us, which is so un-Nottingham Forest based on everything we've seen this season.
00:13:09
Joe
Hmm.
00:13:13
Joe
Yeah. Hmm.
00:13:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, I couldn't believe that they benched Hudson-Odoi and Alanga and they were playing Danilo, Elliot Anderson, Ryan Yates, Dominguez and Gibbs White as their output.
00:13:20
Joe
Hmm.
00:13:25
Joe
Hmm.
00:13:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bless, what were your thoughts on their opening line-up? Did you think we could get out them because of it or did you think it was going to be a 0-0 written all over it?
00:13:37
Blessings
um Well, I still wasn't really sure what to expect, to be honest.
00:13:39
Charley
Thank you.
00:13:41
Blessings
But um it was clear the game plan, um like Joe's alluded to as well, that they wanted just to stay in the game and then bang, 70th minute, 60th minute, double substitution, pass on the door in the Lange and then maybe nick it 1-0.
00:13:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
right.
00:13:56
Blessings
I think that's generally what Nuno's trying to do there. Bit of a smash and grab, just hold... hold what you got for now, um make the crowd crowd sort of drown out by just being boring and then nick it at the end 1-0.
00:14:09
Joe
Mm-hmm.
00:14:10
Blessings
So it was strange to me. um I wasn't particularly concerned because Ionee's not really been doing, he's not moving anyone at the moment. um So when I saw Chris Woods out, you know, I was pretty happy with that.
00:14:26
Blessings
I like pretty confident Webster can handle Iwanoi. And then the wingers are out as well. So, yeah, it was a strange one to see. But um he's gone for a smashing ground try and win it in the end, hasn't he?
00:14:37
Joe
They've
Analysis of Nottingham Forest's Strategy
00:14:38
Joe
both come on at the same time as well.
00:14:39
Blessings
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:40
Joe
They've literally doubled some shoots for 61st minute, Elanga and Hudson-Odoi at the same time.
00:14:40
Blessings
Yeah.
00:14:42
Charley
Thank you.
00:14:45
Joe
he's He's seen enough from... did he take off?
00:14:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:14:47
Joe
Dominguez. Not even that. Who did he even bring off? He brought off Arenoy and Danilo and whacked on the two. so Not ideal, mate.
00:14:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Also that was the oddest pronunciation of Awonyi from Bless.
00:15:00
Joe
Not ideal.
00:15:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
He just went Awonoi.
00:15:04
Joe
What did he say? Arenoy.
00:15:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's not it, surely.
00:15:07
Blessings
Yes, I'll annoy you.
00:15:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
No way. Oh, right.
00:15:10
Blessings
Yeah, it is.
00:15:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I've been saying it wrong the entire his entire life. Sorry, I won you. How annoying.
00:15:15
Blessings
I say that...
00:15:15
Joe
A 1U? 1U? Where's the a
00:15:17
Blessings
I've said that with so much confidence, I'm actually not sure.
00:15:18
Joe
but
00:15:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah youve You basically sat me down and said, oh, I'm right.
00:15:21
Joe
I
00:15:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I've gone, okay.
00:15:25
Joe
but um would say Awe Noi, you know?
00:15:28
Blessings
ah Yeah, that's what I said, I'll annoy you.
00:15:29
Joe
oh yeah, Awe Noi, yeah.
00:15:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
i mean I've been saying I want you for time, for time.
00:15:31
Joe
No.
00:15:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah But yeah, you they actually, ah they fit in fairness to Notting Forest, that plan that they had, so they came on, yeah like you say, Joe, 60th minute.
00:15:35
Charley
so
00:15:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
In the 70th and 73rd minute, I jotted it down, as I do with my notes. ah They did have two chances, basically coming from like a late run. of Alanga in behind the back line.
00:15:55
Joe
Yeah.
00:15:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
they just get but They got threaded through and Alanga tried nicking it past over Bruggan. It didn't come to any avail, but I was thinking that this could be a threat.
00:16:06
Joe
yeah
00:16:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Charlie, what were you thinking when they did come on and thinking about their pace in behind the dearest of souls, Adam Webster? but Not the fastest of men.
00:16:18
Charley
Yeah, I must have completely forgot about that, Charles, until you just explained it. can remember seeing that happen. I was like... ah Yeah, this is this is a goal. This is it. This is it now.
00:16:28
Joe
No.
00:16:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:28
Charley
Like, Nottingham Forest that i've we've seen all season and now just turned up.
00:16:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah you
00:16:33
Charley
um Yeah, it was... that was i obviously i don't really know what they were doing. I don't know if, like say, if they'd start the match, would they have probably buried that? Probably. ah don't know if it was just so early on in the game where they've just come on and mike didn't sort of panic. But yeah, it was... I think was slightly worrying, but then I didn't think after that...
00:16:53
Charley
It wasn't much from them.
00:16:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
know
00:16:55
Charley
but ah they were very They were very quiet after that.
00:16:56
Joe
no
00:16:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
didn't
00:16:58
Charley
um It was kind of like how we started the second half. It was like, okay, there's something that can happen here. And then it just went back to the game we've just been watching. and And the midfield just running around, playing it around, losing it.
00:17:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:12
Charley
And that's about it.
00:17:13
Charley
And then back again. Didn't move from that centre box, really. Yeah.
00:17:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm sorry.
00:17:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, genuinely. Like, genuinely, don't think they had many chances. I think they had that one. They had one-year in the first half, or one-oy, sorry, whatever to call them, ah in the first half who smashed it at Verbruggen.
00:17:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then they had Gibbs White from Miles Out and Verbruggen tips over the bar. Those were the literally only chances I could have remember them having. And I never felt... Oh, yeah. The commentators as well in the game were saying, and oh they they've been much of the better side and they've looked a threat.
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
They haven't at all. you are You're talking nonsense, quite frankly.
00:17:50
Charley
What game are they watching?
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Talking absolute waffle. Classic commentators and pundits.
00:17:53
Joe
It's for you,
00:17:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Talking waffle. God, I hate them.
00:17:57
Blessings
He's lost his head again.
00:17:58
Joe
man.
00:17:58
Blessings
18 minutes
00:17:58
Charley
ah so
00:17:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's
00:17:59
Joe
Lost the head already. We've only been back. This is the first one back and his head's gone, mate.
00:18:01
Blessings
in. eighteen minutes in
00:18:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah they
00:18:04
Charley
Thank
00:18:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
They just waffle, don't they? They just waffle. ah But one thing we
00:18:08
Charley
you.
Penalty Decision Debate
00:18:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
do have to cover before we finish off this segment is the penalty getting overturned.
00:18:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think we're all pretty much in agreement of what a scandalous decision that almost was. Mitoma goes to ground, doesn't get anything.
00:18:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bear in mind, why is he going to ground? That was risky in itself. And then bloody Elliot Anderson, that's assault. Steps on his arm, studs him. I want him to be a yellow card or maybe even red.
00:18:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Get sent off. But nothing. Gets given against us. I'm livid about that. That's a joke. Joe, are you thinking?
00:18:46
Joe
To be fair, the slight attack he's obviously just gone to block it, hasn't he?
00:18:49
Charley
you.
00:18:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:50
Joe
But then he's nowhere near him anyway, really. you know what mean? like and I feel like... I know, obviously, you're saying about his assault and that. I don't know.
00:19:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Studs his arm.
00:19:01
Joe
I don't know.
00:19:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Studs his arm.
00:19:02
Joe
yeah yeah I know he studs his arm and that, but I actually generally think that he's not even paying attention to that. He's just felt any sort of contact that he's just gone. Do you what mean? Like, we've already said about how, like, tense the sort of, the atmosphere of the game is, like, not in terms of in the stadium, but, like, on the pitch in terms of you don't want to lose or whatever.
00:19:20
Joe
So, mate, imagine, but we've all played football Bless, right? Imagine that was Bless in that situation. Bless is going down like he's been shot, mate.
00:19:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, he did that twice on Wednesday.
00:19:30
Charley
Thank
00:19:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
He did that twice on Wednesday. He even called, ah, for two of the challenges. That's a blessed classic, isn't it, blessed?
00:19:40
Blessings
in In my defence, the guy is absolutely booting my ankles out. And it doesn't look like he has. it looks like I've taken a bad touch.
00:19:47
Joe
that would would but That would be no shock at all yeah
00:19:47
Blessings
Anyway.
00:19:48
Charley
you.
00:19:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Wouldn't be the first time.
00:19:50
Blessings
Oh, yeah. Brilliant, yeah.
00:19:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
yes
00:19:54
Joe
Yeah, no, I don't... This is the thing, is I don't even want to say it because, like, I know everyone's feeling towards VAR, that is literally what it's for, isn't
00:20:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, thank God.
00:20:03
Joe
It's because the referee's incompetent, that's why.
00:20:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:06
Joe
So...
00:20:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
hello That little dweeb, Charlie, in the stadium, will you trout were you chanting cheat and telling the ref to go somewhere?
00:20:17
Charley
I thought you were just calling me a little dweeb then.
00:20:19
Joe
I thought he called you a tweet as well.
00:20:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, no, no, no.
00:20:20
Blessings
That's what I thought.
00:20:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
The ref's a little dweeb.
00:20:21
Joe
LAUGHTER
00:20:21
Charley
I was like, wow.
00:20:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sorry, should make that clear.
00:20:24
Joe
Welcome to the podcast, man, you little dweeb.
00:20:25
Blessings
Literally, that little Dewey Charlie.
00:20:30
Charley
ah that wound
00:20:32
Joe
that's
00:20:32
Charley
oop um
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:34
Charley
Yeah, I mean, i was at the i was at the other end of the pitch and it didn't look like, again, i mean, Matoma was halfway down the other end, but it that slide, I was like, it just like completely missed. And yeah, it looked, we couldn't tell from the other end, but the quickness of the ref sort of the ref to go over to that monitor just kind of said it all.
00:20:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:53
Charley
Like, as soon as he, I think it was, I was doing 30 seconds of him blowing, him going over to the monitor. um I mean, it did kind of make me laugh, which I didn't see at the time.
00:21:05
Charley
Obviously, seen Brighton fans putting £10 notes in front of, putting £10 notes in front of, the near the TV.
00:21:08
Joe
Oh, yeah, saw that.
00:21:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:13
Blessings
she
00:21:13
Charley
um
00:21:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:15
Charley
But I don't remember, the ref was probably thinking, oh, maybe I might might just say that.
00:21:19
Joe
He's surely going to be having a little grab at some of them there, mate.
00:21:22
Charley
Yeah, but ah but no, yeah it never felt like it was a pen.
00:21:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:23
Joe
was
00:21:26
Charley
And I think even the it felt like the Forest fans kind of, obviously they cheered when they got the pen at the call. But after that, I think they just kind of, i think they kind of thought and knew that they if they got this, this was jammy.
00:21:38
Charley
um
00:21:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:39
Charley
and But it was instead the right decision. And Jody summarised it. That is what VAR is there for. that And you could, I think, yeah, that was probably a good use of VAR there and know as a positive, but
00:21:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you one shameless man that did call for it and did cry when it wasn't when it was overturned. And that is that man, Ryan Yates.
00:21:59
Joe
I told you, right?
00:21:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was in the refs there.
00:22:00
Joe
He's a wild ad.
00:22:00
Charley
she
00:22:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely shameless. Shameless behaviour. ah In this next segment, going be talking about... the the heartbreaking penalty shootout. wellll We'll be nice and quick, hopefully.
00:22:14
Joe
because
00:22:39
Charley
Thank
00:23:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back with a Daily Brighton podcast.
Penalty Shootout Skepticism
00:23:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's get to it. Who had any faith or optimism that we're actually going to win the penalty shootout?
00:23:11
Joe
It's just a 50-50, isn't it, mate? you know what I mean?
00:23:13
Charley
yeah
00:23:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is, yeah. It is.
00:23:15
Joe
I would never once in my life there's been a penalty shootout and I've gone, do what? really fancy that team over that team.
00:23:22
Blessings
yeah
00:23:22
Joe
Do you know what mean?
00:23:22
Charley
yeah
00:23:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:23:23
Joe
Like, ever. Also, like, when sorry when people say, I play for penalties, why on earth would you play for penalties?
00:23:24
Blessings
Uh,
00:23:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
i
00:23:30
Joe
That's so stupid, mate. Do you know what I mean?
00:23:32
Charley
yeah
00:23:34
Joe
Unless you're, like, significantly the worst team, why would you ever play for pens?
00:23:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
o
00:23:39
Joe
It's outrageous.
00:23:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I was thinking, I felt, I didn't feel that confident because of how young the team was. That was my only thinking going in.
00:23:48
Joe
Yes, man.
00:23:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's like every penalty taker was going to, apart from Lewis Dunk and Van Hecker maybe, even he's still like 24.
00:23:55
Joe
He's 105.
00:23:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, Esther Pinian. He didn't even get a chance take one. But like everyone else was going to be young taking it. And that's where I thought, ooh, the experience of that them could come into this. And, I mean, we started off well with João Pedro's lovely first penalty.
00:24:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Bless. Give me your thoughts on Jack Inchwood, though. We've been big fans and we've stood up for him against Joe. Joe's tirade of Jack Inchwood in the past.
00:24:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he sadly passed us here.
00:24:26
Charley
Thank
00:24:28
Blessings
Yeah, I mean, it it was a poor penalty. It was really poor penalty. But again, like you said, experience, Scott to him and like the pressure of the game as well. I feel like he...
00:24:29
Joe
You look lost, you know, are you?
00:24:43
Blessings
didn't see himself throughout the whole game. So I don't know. I wonder if he volunteered to take one or he was picked. um I find that quite interesting because obviously some managers let them volunteer just put themselves forward or the manager picks.
00:24:59
Blessings
ah Yeah, that'd be quite interesting to know because that was a really poor penalty, to be honest. But again, he's a bright boy through and through, so we've got to stand with him. um like He's only going to get better from this experience as well.
00:25:12
Blessings
um see Joe throwing his hands in the air.
00:25:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes. Joe's livid that we we'll support the local lad.
00:25:20
Joe
Hey, lad, how's he going to get better from missing a penalty?
00:25:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Joe, don't feel the same?
00:25:24
Joe
what it what's sort It's not character building, mate.
00:25:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Say that
00:25:27
Joe
Just take better penalties, mate.
00:25:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
again.
00:25:29
Joe
You've side-footed it into literally perfect place with minimal power, mate. Wrap that, lad. Wrap it into the top bins, mate. Honestly. like And also, like you said about, oh, the manager didn't pick, mate, because the manager's surely not picking Jack Hitchens.
00:25:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know.
00:25:48
Charley
I think he did.
00:25:50
Joe
Oh.
00:25:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think he loves him. and absolutely loves him.
00:25:51
Charley
ah think see if you look at Herzog, I think his is is um interview afterwards, I think he said like responsibility, I kind of, I think I read there that he did choose, like it was his responsibility.
00:25:52
Blessings
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:53
Joe
Herzl are out.
00:26:04
Charley
Like they weren't, he did say they weren't bad penalties, just good saves, but I don't know what he was, yeah.
00:26:05
Joe
and That's Kat.
00:26:11
Charley
that's ah
00:26:11
Blessings
Yeah.
00:26:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
What was he watching?
00:26:11
Joe
ah but
00:26:13
Blessings
yeah
00:26:14
Charley
He at the moment, I don't know, but.
00:26:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:26:16
Joe
I reckon he's just taken the pressure off really, isn't it?
00:26:18
Blessings
yeah
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:26:19
Charley
EF.
00:26:19
Joe
Especially the off like Hinchelwood and that.
00:26:21
Joe
ah Gomez, I don't know what he's trying to do. He's just leavened it. He's just mad. Do you know what mean? But like, no, I'm going to leave Jack Hinchelwood alone.
00:26:31
Joe
I'll let you continue with what you're saying.
00:26:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, i was going to I was going to stay on a positive outlook of Jack Hinchwood. ah Charlie, isn't it good that we're showing faith in such a young man and there's so much confidence there for him to even take a penalty? to
00:26:46
Charley
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to probably jump on the chat, Hinch, with a bandwagon. do like him. I think... and not And it's not just because he's a local... I think he's been... his bit oh ever since he's kind of his ah say senior career at Brighton, he's never played really in his position.
00:27:05
Charley
He's been asked probably asked the most out of a lot of the Brighton players to be basically, he's a temp for any position. Like, we need you a left back. You need you right back. Do you know what? If the Bruggan got injured, he's probably going to goal.
00:27:20
Charley
but Like, he's literally that guy.
00:27:23
Joe
Yeah. etc
00:27:23
Charley
You just put pop him anywhere and he just gets told, if you want to play, you've got to go in this position. He's like, yeah, all right. So he's probably feeling like, all right, you need to now take the third penalty and he's probably going to be all right.
00:27:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:34
Charley
um i did Yeah, I think he yeah he didn't but he he knew it was bad. i think he could i do think he already got better. He does score the goals.
00:27:45
Charley
I mean, he scores the most with his head, so that probably doesn't really make sense why he takes a penalty, to be honest.
00:27:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:51
Charley
um I don't think I've actually had seen him score with his foot.
00:27:54
Blessings
I don't think that happens well.
00:27:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think he has.
00:27:55
Blessings
That's a
00:27:56
Charley
but Yes, you see it?
00:27:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
think he scored three with his edge.
00:27:58
Joe
I think it's that is is his debut one was with his foot, wasn't it? Like the goal on...
00:28:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh no he drilled one.
00:28:04
Charley
Oh, that's true, yeah.
00:28:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
He drilled one from a corner recently.
00:28:04
Joe
his drilled one.
00:28:05
Blessings
good point.
00:28:06
Joe
Yeah.
00:28:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bottom corner with his foot.
00:28:08
Charley
Yeah.
00:28:09
Blessings
You should have tried head at the pen and just run up and
00:28:09
Charley
Um.
00:28:10
Joe
Yeah.
00:28:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, genuinely. Just slide into it.
00:28:14
Charley
But, yeah, the penalty, I mean, it was, so I think they got the order wrong.
00:28:14
Joe
oh
00:28:19
Charley
um I think we should have just thrown all our penalty takers at it. what? I have brought James Milner on. He could take the penalty.
00:28:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
no
00:28:27
Blessings
That's not about a show.
00:28:27
Charley
I don't know where he is. Just literally, you've got the last minute of the extra time, James, he's going to have a little run and then kick the ball.
00:28:33
Joe
yeah
00:28:35
Charley
um because yeah Because, yeah, I just think we got it all wrong. The likes of Estepeñan standing there, a dingerah. ah Yeah, I think Gomez, I probably would have said take a penalty because he's an attacking player.
00:28:47
Charley
But yeah, I think that that was a bad call.
00:28:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, Hinchelwood and Gomez, well, Hinchelwood missed, and then Gomez said, hold my beer, I can probably miss a bit worse, and he went on to do so. which which one Which one did you think was worse, bless?
00:29:05
Blessings
um i I think the... don't know. They're both really poor, to be honest. I think the Gomez one stuck out for me in particular because I think he changed his mind um because Sells pointed to the left.
00:29:22
Blessings
And then Gomez sort of looked up at him and then looked back down at the ball. So think in that moment, he's actually changed his mind going, you know what? Actually, I'm just going to blast this and see what happens. um Yeah.
00:29:33
Blessings
And it's just poor penalty.
00:29:34
Charley
he did He did that all right.
00:29:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:37
Charley
but
00:29:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Smashed it straight at him.
00:29:39
Blessings
Yeah.
Young Goalkeeper's Performance and Future
00:29:41
Blessings
One thing I wanted to ask you though.
00:29:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I've had to think...
00:29:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Go on.
00:29:44
Blessings
Yeah. One thing i was going to say, um did we overhype the Breggen? Because...
00:29:50
Joe
yeah Yes.
00:29:52
Blessings
ah The last couple of months, I've been very disappointed, to be honest. But I do recall we were saying about keepers outside the top the top four.
00:30:03
Joe
that was That was me that said that.
00:30:03
Blessings
No, it was you, yeah.
00:30:06
Joe
Yeah, it was me that said that, and I am eating some humble pie right now, I'm at, because Matt Sells is literally, know they're not outside, but like, out of like the sort of traditional big, Matt Sells better than him.
00:30:06
Charley
good
00:30:10
Blessings
Yeah.
00:30:20
Blessings
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
hmm
00:30:22
Joe
So it's just like... I mean, based off this season, obviously. But, like, I don't know.
00:30:26
Blessings
Yeah.
00:30:28
Joe
I think he he had a run where it was just, like, quite bad. And then, like... yeah Also, the results weren't going very well. So, like, you can't really cover it up. But then he...
00:30:39
Joe
When we went on the the run before...
00:30:39
Charley
Thank
00:30:41
Joe
Like, prior to this, where we won however many we run in a row, is... That covers up if he does sort of have, like, a bit iffy performances. I mean, when we... um When we beat Chelsea, he's made a mistake at the start of the game.
00:30:56
Joe
So, like, you know I mean? So, like, it's just... And then, obviously, the win essentially just covers it up, really. Obviously, we spoke about it, but... you what mean? But, I mean, he is a U, isn't he?
00:31:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:08
Joe
So, he'll be all right eventually. Apparently, Chelsea won him.
00:31:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, but I was about to say, ah apparently Bayern Munich are interested in him.
00:31:12
Joe
So...
00:31:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, he's even though he's performing badly, Madrid, Jesus Christ.
00:31:18
Joe
of
00:31:19
Charley
v I think I've seen Real Madrid as well.
00:31:22
Joe
Real Madrid?
00:31:23
Charley
Yeah, Real Madrid. I've seen Real Madrid as well.
00:31:26
Joe
Real Madrid? Lord.
00:31:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe we are right. Maybe we are right.
00:31:32
Joe
Yeah, maybe we've so I've seen something prior to...
00:31:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe they've stopped watching.
00:31:35
Blessings
Yeah.
00:31:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
maybe they've stopped watching
00:31:39
Joe
Oh, brother. They've... they Yeah, they've seen it at the start of the season. They were like, yeah, that's decent. And they're going to realise that he is not the region of Mamou Noir.
00:31:45
Blessings
That's decent.
00:31:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:31:48
Joe
I'll tell you.
00:31:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
be
00:31:49
Joe
And he's also Thibaut Courtois anymore. So... Yeah, yeah, he's... He's 22.
00:31:54
Charley
How is he? He's like 21.
00:31:56
Joe
Yeah.
00:31:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah
00:31:56
Joe
yeah he's a
00:31:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think around 21-22, something like that. Yeah.
00:32:00
Joe
it' twenty two
00:32:01
Charley
Still quite young to be fair, isn't it?
00:32:03
Joe
Very young, yeah. You get the good 10 plus years out of him if he goes to a club where he wants to stay forever, I guess.
00:32:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:32:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah, that's that's more the reason we weren't going to win the penalty shootout.
00:32:12
Joe
Yeah.
00:32:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Young keeper, young takers, peak. that's That's never a good recipe.
00:32:19
Charley
I've got to get... I've got to give little shout to Jao Pedro though. running up to Gomez and Hinchelwood.
00:32:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh yeah.
00:32:27
Charley
After each penalty, I thought that was... know there's a lot of rumours or whatever, like Pedro wants to stay. and it's a fair point. He's been a bit... And stuff like that. don't think... I think he wants to win things.
00:32:39
Charley
um And I think he was he was pushing. But I think min it Minto went down in this thing extra time. I think with Cramp.
00:32:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:48
Charley
And he was just like, obviously just... What's to say? Stretching Minto out.
00:32:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
did the calf thing, yeah, yeah.
00:32:52
Charley
That sounds really weird to say. But like...
00:32:54
Joe
Pause. Massive pause. thats That might be the biggest pause of all time.
00:33:00
Blessings
We need to have a pause button.
00:33:03
Joe
That's crazy, mate.
00:33:04
Blessings
I think that's the maddest one we've had.
00:33:06
Joe
Welcome to the pod.
00:33:11
Charley
But yeah, I think I've got to give a shout.
00:33:12
Joe
Poor Minte.
00:33:18
Charley
That's also another one. Why didn't Minto not take a penalty?
00:33:21
Blessings
ah
00:33:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:22
Charley
that ones just part
00:33:23
Joe
It's semi-fam.
00:33:24
Charley
but No, I just got to give a shout out to Pedro.
00:33:24
Joe
I'm inside pedo. You can end up anywhere.
00:33:27
Charley
Yeah, but no, I've got to give a shout to Pedro that he he did try and lift their heads up and stuff that. But I mean it's fair you say you've just scored a bet your penalty. I'm pretty sure.
00:33:37
Joe
yeah
00:33:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah yeah yeah he's storming off the pitch if he missed by the way guaranteed but yeah like you say his uh character has come under question at so many times this season so it is good to see that he's at least a good teammate to like at people's lowest uh but yeah i think we've uh
00:33:41
Charley
Yeah.
00:33:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
covered this game well well and truly. We've covered all the pens. We've covered the snore draw. That was 0-0 in about 34 minutes. So I don't know how we've done that. Congratulations, guys.
00:34:08
Joe
Thank you.
00:34:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we will be back with more posts. We're back four times a week. Three minimum, but aiming for four times a week.
00:34:17
Blessings
yeah
00:34:21
Blessings
ah
00:34:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
is
00:34:22
Charley
put set the standards okay
00:34:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Already dropped it.
00:34:22
Joe
o
00:34:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
that
00:34:25
Blessings
I do think this was a bad idea to say that.
00:34:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
he
00:34:27
Joe
ah tell te tell him Tell him that we got another new signing as well. But he's on loan.
00:34:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Yeah, we've got another new sign-in because, like you say, Joe's been scouring the globe for these podcasters.
00:34:32
Joe
He's like Gomez.
00:34:38
Joe
Yes. Yes, mate.
00:34:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's gone to Australia, spoke to a couple kangaroos, met a guy eating a kangaroo, and then grabbed him.
00:34:42
Joe
Tick.
00:34:47
Joe
What?
00:34:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that's who we've got coming up on the pod sooner or later.
00:34:51
Joe
He's just offended every Australian
00:34:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
But for
Podcast Conclusion and Future Plans
00:34:53
Joe
player.
00:34:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
now, that was the review to Brighton Nottingham Forest.
00:34:53
Joe
Yeah.
00:34:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's been a pleasure speaking to you all, and it's been good to be back. Up the Seagulls!