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How to Remove Your Child from Roblox/Fortnite
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Many parents regret letting their kids start playing Fortnite or Roblox, but stepping back does not have to mean constant arguments. In this episode of The Dopamine Slot Machine, Andrew, a dad of two and lifelong gamer, explains why these games are designed to hook children, how they function as social spaces and boredom traps, and how parents can remove them in a healthy, practical way.
You will learn the four needs these games meet for kids, how to replace them with healthier gaming options, and simple steps to transition your child away from addictive platforms without damaging their relationship with games or friends.
If you are a parent wondering “How do I get my child off Fortnite or Roblox?”, this episode gives you a realistic plan. 🎮👨👩👧👦
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Theme
00:00:11
Andrew Wilmot
Good morning, good day, good evening. Whenever you are, welcome to the Dopamine Slot Machine, the podcast that discusses what you need to know about the video games your children are playing. How are they designed to get your kids hooked?
00:00:22
Andrew Wilmot
How do they make money from your children? And what can you do to make sure that your child's relationship with the video games is a positive one? My name is Andrew. I'm a dad of two and a lifelong gamer. And I get asked the same question loads. So along the lines of, my son or daughter already plays Fortnite or Roblox.
00:00:38
Andrew Wilmot
We're not gamers, so we didn't realise just how bad it is. We want to step back from this. We want to remove our child from these platforms in a way that's healthy. How do we manage this?
Concerns and Misconceptions
00:00:48
Andrew Wilmot
Now, the age changes, and occasionally other games are mentioned, but really my answer's pretty similar every time.
00:00:56
Andrew Wilmot
So firstly... I say to any parents who are now regretting giving their child a game that they didn't fully understand, don't blame yourselves. It's completely natural to expect that a game that all of their friends are playing, and I'm sure that your child will have told you that, all my friends play, this is fine.
00:01:13
Andrew Wilmot
it's perfectly natural to expect then, you know, a game where kids' merch for it is sold on the high street or in supermarkets. games where you can get gift cards for it at basically every supermarket in the country is appropriate for children.
00:01:27
Andrew Wilmot
Over 60% of UK children aged to age 13 play Roblox, according to Ofcom, and I did find one less reliable survey which puts Fortnite at 60% of teens in the yeah UK without specifying an age range.
00:01:41
Andrew Wilmot
It's natural to assume that something that's that common and has that much tacit societal support is safe for children.
00:01:52
Andrew Wilmot
Then there's the fact that these platforms are inappropriate for children in a way that we've not seen before in media. If a film has extreme violence, gore, sexual content, it is immediately obvious that it's not appropriate for children.
00:02:07
Andrew Wilmot
Roblox, Fortnite, EAFC, and the array of microtransaction-focused mobile and tablet games are out there at a surface level look entirely appropriate. To be honest, they look juvenile.
00:02:21
Andrew Wilmot
I started this podcast website because there is no way that the average parent can be expected to know just how predatorily these games are designed. Now that's changing a bit. I'm far from the only person speaking out about these platforms, right?
00:02:33
Andrew Wilmot
They've been in the news a lot recently due to their failures of child safeguarding.
Parenting Challenges and Decisions
00:02:39
Andrew Wilmot
But knowing what good in children's gaming media looks like is so much harder than just knowing that Roblox and Fortnite are bad. So even if Roblox and Fortnite disappear tomorrow, I'd still love to continue doing this.
00:02:52
Andrew Wilmot
With that out of the way, I also want to say to those who decide to withdraw access to inappropriate games, congratulations.
00:03:00
Andrew Wilmot
I was once asked by a BBC journalist, what do you have to say to parents who say that taking their children off of these platforms is really difficult?
00:03:07
Andrew Wilmot
And that was paraphrasing a bit, but my answer was to remember that they are the parent. You are the parent, right? and As parents, we sometimes make difficult choices that our children disagree with.
00:03:19
Andrew Wilmot
We make those choices specifically for the well-being of our children. I don't let my four-year-old eat ice cream every night. There's been times where he's wanted something that I've said no to and he's been very upset about it along these lines.
00:03:35
Andrew Wilmot
and I'm not perfect myself here. We're not perfect. We don't get everything right here either. Recently, actually, we had been an incident where we had forgotten to reinstate parental controls on our daughter's switch. We had well we had parental controls on. she had he had a timer on it, and so was only able to play a certain amount of time each day. But we had temporarily removed it, and we thought we'd put it back on, and it wasn't.
00:04:00
Andrew Wilmot
And then we found that she had been playing it overnight. She was snuck under a pillow and we had called to her after a couple of days. And we thought, wow, she's seeming really tired recently. And we hadn't we hadn't considered that our protective barrier here wasn't working until we were already suffering the consequences of it. So we made the decision to no longer allow her access to her personal switch until she's older.
00:04:25
Andrew Wilmot
In the light of new evidence, that is her showing that she'll make the decision to hide it and play it at night if given an opportunity, we've reviewed a previous choice we made. It's very easy to say, well, remember you're the parent, but it's much harder to actually go and make these choices. So congratulations for taking the harder road for the sake of your child.
Understanding Children's Gaming Needs
00:04:44
Andrew Wilmot
So with that bit of emotional dressing aside, let's get to the meat of it. What do you, as a parent, who's removing your child's access to these platforms, need to know to make it as easy, smooth and healthy as possible?
00:04:57
Andrew Wilmot
So first is understanding what purpose the game of choice serves. Generally speaking, there are four core needs that these games meet that I come across. The first is a digital third space. So somewhere to hang out with friends online without it necessarily being goal or outcome driven as the primary point. If you're not familiar with the concept of third space, an example you might be familiar with is the pub or coffee shop for a child.
00:05:23
Andrew Wilmot
could be a playground or a youth group, specifically not something like a football club where they are there to partake in an activity. Now, I know with a youth club, they might have activities, but, uh,
00:05:35
Andrew Wilmot
you know, those activities will rotate and a lot of it is socialising through the activity as opposed to, say, a football club where you're there to play football. That's what you're going to be doing basically every time you go.
00:05:48
Andrew Wilmot
Anyway, with this digital third space concept, this is actually where the the unknown person contact risk gets really strong because they're treating it as a social space. And one of the key things about social space is that you can meet new people. Now, in social spaces that are designed for children,
00:06:04
Andrew Wilmot
then this is done in a safe framework, in a healthy way, and you know that the people that they meet are going to be other children. That's not true online. We'll come to that
Gaming as Social Spaces and Risks
00:06:13
Andrew Wilmot
shortly. Second is a gaming activity that they play in person. So a bit like playing football together, it's something they enjoy doing together.
00:06:20
Andrew Wilmot
You might have, if your child plays Fortnite, they might like to play it when their friend comes over and they're both playing together, that theyre they're dropping in together, working as a team. Third is the dev default activity when bored. So similar to flopping on the couch and scrolling on your phone or watching a TV series. And this is when the addictive design element really comes into play the hardest, as default activity can quickly become compulsive activity.
00:06:46
Andrew Wilmot
And the fourth need is as a replacement for real world achievement and connection. And I'm not actually going to go too much on the fourth point here, as that's where it starts crossing into clinically significant disordered behavior. And I am not qualified to talk about that. And I would never want to give the impression that I'm qualified to talk about that. I am not a medical professional.
00:07:06
Andrew Wilmot
When I talk about addictive design, I'm talking about that as understood by industry, not medical professionals. If your child is refusing school, is extremely socially isolated and generally impossible to remove from their gaming world, then you should speak with a professional rather than listening to a podcast.
00:07:22
Andrew Wilmot
But I can speak for the first few points, and the degree to which each point is relevant to your child specifically will depend on your child. But typically there's a mix of all three.
00:07:33
Andrew Wilmot
I find that Fortnite and Roblox are more important to social spaces as a child gets older. So a child might start playing it on their own and rather than syncing up with friends, but maybe once they' at an age where perhaps they've got a phone and can arrange to play the same game at the same time, the more confident sending messages to each other over whatever platform they've got access to, it becomes that social space as well.
00:07:58
Andrew Wilmot
Whereas the gaming as a default or compulsive activity is more immediately relevant to younger gamers. Now, that's not to say that older gamers won't have that as an issue or that younger gamers won't be treating it as a digital third space.
Communication and Safety Measures
00:08:13
Andrew Wilmot
Just in terms of wait where it gets weighed up as, what's what's the balance of this to to kids.
00:08:21
Andrew Wilmot
And whilst different age groups will require different levels of explanations, I really think that one of the most important things you can have here is open and honest communication with your child. You should try and trust your child with the truth in as age-appropriate way as you can.
00:08:37
Andrew Wilmot
These platforms are harmful. They are harmful for these reasons. We didn't know this when we first gave them to you, but we are now removing them. We know you're not going to be pleased about this decision, but we're going to work with you to make this as good as an experience as possible.
00:08:54
Andrew Wilmot
So I will touch on children playing these games together in person later, but let's drill a bit more into the digital third space point first. So Roblox and Fortnite are completely inappropriate as digital third spaces for a few key reasons.
00:09:07
Andrew Wilmot
Firstly is the lack of effective controls over who else you interact with in that space. Both of these platforms have parental controls, but they are insufficient and get watered down massively once your child hits the digital age of consent, which is 13 in this country. You might have seen during the rounds some emails that Roblox has sent parents.
00:09:26
Andrew Wilmot
I've actually got it here. You are receiving this email because the age on your child's Roblox account is now 13 years old or older. You will no longer be able to manage your child's privacy settings. In most regions, spend and screen time limits will no longer apply and you will not be able to block users and experiences on their behalf. In addition, you will no longer receive spending-related notifications unless you explicitly opt in.
00:09:47
Andrew Wilmot
We encourage you to discuss spending guidelines with your child. Yeah, so if you're relying on parental controls to make these spaces safe, that's not going to work.
00:09:57
Andrew Wilmot
Anyway, so these environments are uncontrolled in a way that true third spaces are not. To use a cafe as an example, if your teenage daughter was having a hot chocolate and a cake in a cafe with her friends and someone came in and threatened her if she didn't show them naked photos of herself, that person would very quickly get arrested.
00:10:17
Andrew Wilmot
If random people were approaching children, and let's not forget that children as young as three on these platforms in public and trying to talk to them whilst the parents weren't looking, someone would say something. Even in a playground, right?
00:10:31
Andrew Wilmot
Parents are aware of what's going on. There are other adults around and there is a standard of behaviour that is expected. Now, that's not to say that nothing bad ever happens in these public third spaces. But in terms of how controlled they are, the societal expectations are massively different.
00:10:50
Andrew Wilmot
Not to mention that in public, an adult looks like an adult. You look at me, you can tell that I'm 31. Whilst plenty of predators online pretend to be children.
00:11:02
Andrew Wilmot
It's part of how they work. As horrific, however, that online grooming is, these spaces are inappropriate as third spaces, even if we completely put that aside.
00:11:14
Andrew Wilmot
As a third space, it offers a facsimile of connection. Even voice chat, right, compared to text chat, you lose a huge amount of the nonverbal cues and communication that make real-world friendship so meaningful. You can't hug a crying friend over the microphone. You can't see the joy in their face when they first see you. You can't even tell if they're even paying attention to what you're saying.
00:11:35
Andrew Wilmot
And you can't actively show them that you're paying attention. It's no replacement for real-world interaction. And finally, a third space in an environment that is built and refined by the best engineers in the world to keep you trapped and to suck as much money out of you as possible. There's no place for even an adult to be spending huge amounts of their time.
00:11:55
Andrew Wilmot
And yes, a cafe wants you to spend money, but with it's a little bit different, right There's no comparison to what these companies are doing with our children as their unwitting focus group.
00:12:05
Andrew Wilmot
We wouldn't expect teens to hang out in a casino with their friends every night and then to never try gambling. We know that the more often you are exposed to the opportunity to gamble, the more likely you are to start gambling.
Encouraging Healthier Gaming and Social Interactions
00:12:17
Andrew Wilmot
And the same is in play with these digital third spaces. So in this need, there are two things I want to say. First is that you need to make space for and prioritise in-person socialising as much as possible.
00:12:31
Andrew Wilmot
This is hard. We're a two working parent household. It sucks. I can't imagine just how much it would suck for a single working parent household.
00:12:42
Andrew Wilmot
But time spent with friends by children and teenagers has dropped by over 45% in the last two decades, massively accelerating after 2010, the year of smartphone ubiquity. My daughter is eight. I'm 31.
00:12:56
Andrew Wilmot
My generation of children spent nearly twice as much time with their friends as her generation does. And this was the case before COVID. This isn't, oh, COVID happened and then kids stopped hanging out. No, 2019, kids weren't hanging out.
00:13:10
Andrew Wilmot
There's all sorts of factors driving it. But if you really want to rebel against big tech, if you really want to do something positive for your kids and standing up to these tech giants, help your kids meet their friends in person.
00:13:24
Andrew Wilmot
I know that is so much easier said than done, but it's the most important thing you can do. Second thing, is that there are less bad, I'm not going to say good, less bad digital third space options.
00:13:37
Andrew Wilmot
So my main suggestion to parents when this question comes up is Minecraft set up with Minecraft Realms. So Minecraft Realms is a private server subscription which is offered through the game, which then gives you very tight controls over who can join.
00:13:52
Andrew Wilmot
So compared to Minecraft, Robux Fortnite, it means a core gameplay experience that is less intense with very long reward loops. No online interaction with people they don't know if you have set up Minecraft realms. Obviously, if you are letting your child go on public servers, that's a very different scenario.
00:14:14
Andrew Wilmot
No predatory microtransactions, constantly working to get them to spend money in-game, and no in-game voice chat, only a text chat. Although we do, with our daughter, set up their own voice chat. So this is typically a WhatsApp call between my phone and a friend's parent's phone, or Zoom call if it's a group.
00:14:34
Andrew Wilmot
But there's no in-game voice chat on its own. So nobody's going to walk up and start voice chatting your child in Minecraft. There are still things to be aware of. Minecraft is a game that can never actually be completed. So there are, it can lead to a lack of natural offpoints there but off Off points have to be determined by your own goals and objectives.
00:14:58
Andrew Wilmot
And as mentioned, public servers still pose a risk. There are still microtransactions, but these are very different in nature to Fortnite and Roblox and aren't pushed as heavily. Now i hear quite often that older kids are already fed up of Minecraft though. And,
00:15:13
Andrew Wilmot
Minecraft only released when I was already a late teen. So I find the statement pretty wild. I think Minecraft's awesome for all ages. I loved it at 16. I love it now. I think it's great whether you're 13 or 31.
00:15:24
Andrew Wilmot
But taking that feedback, I will say that there are a huge variety of quality games that value players time that still have cooperative elements. If your child is 14 or 15, then working with them to take a look at some games that you they can play with peers online can be tricky, particularly if you're not very gaming literate yourself.
00:15:44
Andrew Wilmot
And I really don't want to parrot the endless, well, just make sure you have parental controls on, advice that you can get anywhere else. But the same type of game that's good to play online, it's good to play in person. And I will be talking some specific examples of games that I have personally played and would be very happy to recommend.
00:16:02
Andrew Wilmot
so now onto the third point, and I am doing this out of order. How do you handle when these platforms are the default source of entertainment? when used as distraction. The issue with these platforms in this instance is they are built to be addictive and have no natural finish state.
00:16:17
Andrew Wilmot
I've gone over these concepts many times before, I'll spare you here, but in short, you want to find games that are well-rounded and completable.
Game Recommendations and Age Appropriateness
00:16:24
Andrew Wilmot
It's the difference between watching a film and scrolling TikTok, right? They're both watching videos per se, but there's a huge difference between scrolling TikTok and say, you know, I love the Lord of the Rings films, I've watched them many times, I think they're great, they're works of art, but I don't feel compelled to go watch them repeatedly.
00:16:39
Andrew Wilmot
Maybe once every few years. Anyway. So I'm to give you a list of games that I have played and I'm very happy to recommend. Now this selection of games all have split screen multiplayer, they can also be played on the same screen, rather than across multiple devices, they're appropriate for 10 years and up, but will still have a lot to offer older kids and have a focus on cooperation. So top of my list, and one of my favorites, I've played this multiple times with multiple people, including my partner, including my daughter is a game called Nine Parchments. So this is one to four players, can be online, but also is split screen, journeying across a charming Terry Pratchett-esque world, fighting monsters to try and retrieve a collection of lost spells. It's relatively simple, but can be very challenging, and has a lot of good synergy in the way you work as a team.
00:17:32
Andrew Wilmot
Then Trine, by the same people, is instead a one to three player, puzzle, action game set in the same world. And again, it's both got that split screen couch. car It's not actually split screen. It all happens on the the same screen, right? It frames all the three players at once.
00:17:48
Andrew Wilmot
But you can play that together in person or online. Pretty much all the Lego games are pretty great as well. And they will typically have offline co-op. They will be appropriate for your child.
00:18:02
Andrew Wilmot
they They might have a quite an extent of collect-a-thon type gameplay. And if your child can get obsessive over that, it's worth keeping that in mind. They don't tend to have online co-op, though. And older gamers might find them a little bit juvenile.
00:18:19
Andrew Wilmot
Portal 1 and 2. So specifically Portal 2 if you're looking at multiplayer. the Portal games are brilliant single-player puzzle games. A couple of the best of all times. They are irreverently funny. They are extremely well-designed. They get you thinking.
00:18:37
Andrew Wilmot
And just a really good physics-based puzzle game. Portal 2 has a multiplayer mode where you can play with somebody else and you have to solve the puzzles together. Cat Quest 3.
00:18:49
Andrew Wilmot
It's cat-themed role-playing game. It's a lot less juvenile than it sounds, quite similar to Diablo, in in a way, if you've played any of those. I absolutely adore this series, not just as a game to play with my daughter, but as just a good game.
00:19:06
Andrew Wilmot
Now, the person I originally made this list for, they had they were they had recently purchased the Nintendo Switch 2, so a couple of these games are going to be switched to exclusives. But there is Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment. So this is Zelda-themed Musou game. Now,
00:19:24
Andrew Wilmot
probably haven't heard of what a Musou game is, but the gist of it is it's the sort one versus 1,000 RPG type gameplay. it' sir This one specifically is a Zelda themed spin-off of sorts of the Dynasty Warriors games, which I all loved when I was a child and still have a soft spot for. You can play these online, you can play these split screen with a friend in person.
00:19:50
Andrew Wilmot
Untitled Goose Game. This is a slapstick stealth sandbox puzzle game where you are a goose let loose on an unsuspecting village. it is It is funny. It is charming.
00:20:03
Andrew Wilmot
I've got a lot of time for this. It's not going to be the longest thing in the world, but if you just, you know, hey, let's try this together. As an example of a short but sweet game that you can play with your child, they will enjoy it.
00:20:18
Andrew Wilmot
If they played it with a friend, they would enjoy that. Take a look at it. And then i'm actually going to sort of talk about three games at once because they're all very similar. And that is It Takes Two, Split Fiction and Lego Voyages. Now, It Takes Two and Split Fiction are made by the same studio. And these are both cooperative action games where you are reliant on each other.
00:20:44
Andrew Wilmot
With a lot of cooperative games, including you know Nine Parchments i mentioned up above, You can have one good player and one rubbish player and the good player just does all the work and the rubbish player just runs around and you'll get through it fine.
00:20:56
Andrew Wilmot
With It Takes Two, Split Fiction and Lego Voyages, you cannot complete it without the other person. There is no one person does all the work and the other person just walks through. You truly are a team. Now, these are sort of known as couple games.
00:21:12
Andrew Wilmot
Probably couples in very strong relationships if only one of them is is actively a gamer. because of just how suited they are for co-op. Now, I will say it takes two.
00:21:24
Andrew Wilmot
The primary theme is these parents who are in the process of splitting up, learning how to work together again, right?
00:21:36
Andrew Wilmot
that The daughter's wish turns them into to into small toys, and it's it's not going to be appropriate for young children is what I'm getting at here. Split fiction is sci-fi and fantasy, and it's it's authors who are playing worlds that they've created. i'm not going to go too much into the plot here And again, touches on themes such as grief and death, that also got quite explicit language that might not be appropriate for younger, more sensitive players.
00:22:10
Andrew Wilmot
And so then I come to LEGO Voyages, which is same concept, the co-op puzzle game that you have to rely on each other for, except this is really gentle, really artsy.
00:22:22
Andrew Wilmot
It's just an absolute joy. So those three games, and I appreciate that I've sort of given you three at once there in the same category, all worth looking at for here. For single player games, which are much better than distraction based games. So these are games that you can complete and leave behind.
00:22:41
Andrew Wilmot
Zelda Breath of the Wild and Zelda Tears of the Kingdom are both amazing. Donkey Kong Bonanza.
Transitioning to Positive Gaming Habits
00:22:47
Andrew Wilmot
I'm pretty switch heavy on this one because of originally writing up this list specifically for somebody who had got the switch to I do by the way, if anybody is looking at a first console, I do recommend the switch to as the best first console for a child.
00:23:03
Andrew Wilmot
The original switch is now getting pretty outdated. And Nintendo as a publisher is more in alignment with appreciating players time than say the types of games that you'll get on an xbox or playstation now there are lots of games you can get on all platforms so i'm not going to go into this too much we have previously done an episode on uh things to consider when buying your child the first games console anyway that side by side final game i've got on my list here is hogwarts legacy a few other ones which again really does depend on the age of the child uh elden ring for an older teen
00:23:43
Andrew Wilmot
Baldur's Gate 3, again, for an older teen, as that does feature very adult themes. Do not get that. Do not listen to this podcast, look up Baldur's Gate 3 and think, yeah, I'll get that for my 11-year-olds. Just please do not do that. I'm talking like 15, 16 at a minimum. and Yeah, and finally, you know, the second point that I gave right back at the start is gaming as an select activity, playing together as friends. And I hinted at this with this list now.
00:24:12
Andrew Wilmot
Games that can be played on the same screen rather than on separate ones are going to be more social, inherently. I've had some really brilliant times playing video video games with friends. I remember a friend of mine renting Halo 3 from Blockbuster on release. And I'm not that old. He just happened to have a Blockbuster nearby.
00:24:29
Andrew Wilmot
And if he ever smashed through the campaign for his birthday with pizza and other junk food, it's a treasured memory in a way that it just couldn't have been if we were playing the same game but separated over the internet. So let's turn this into a step plan because we love to simplify complex problems into a set of easy steps to follow. So the first is to have that honest conversation explaining to your child what you're going to do and why.
00:24:54
Andrew Wilmot
Second is to listen to your child's concerns and disagreements, and they will have them, but you're going to address those concerns. So point number three, address those concerns by prioritizing in-person social interaction and working together to create a gaming library that works for them.
00:25:09
Andrew Wilmot
Now, I haven't mentioned what if they object along the basis of everybody's got it, I'll be missing out. That sort of fear of missing out. That's something that I think we can all relate to. And I don't think you need specific advice on how to handle that as an objection.
00:25:26
Andrew Wilmot
You know, there's not particularly that different to if everybody was necking bottles of Frosty Jacks in the park, would you let them go just to avoid them missing out? as Maybe.
00:25:39
Andrew Wilmot
I'm not going to speak for your parenting. I certainly had some fun and interesting times doing similar as a kid. And to add a fourth sneaky final point here,
00:25:52
Andrew Wilmot
Play the games with your children. never played a game in your life, don't worry. Your child will be more than happy to show you how. But there really is no better way to make sure that your child's relationship with video games is a positive one than actively being part of that relationship with video games. Play the games with them.
00:26:09
Andrew Wilmot
Get to know the virtual spaces that they are inhabiting. And I don't mean, oh, sit and they'll show you around what they're doing and but ya yada, yada, yada. I mean, actually go and play it with them.
00:26:20
Andrew Wilmot
If they're in Minecraft, get involved. Build some stuff with them. Build a house. Go mining. They will love it. If they're and more interested in the action-adventure games, like Nine Parchments, what i mentioned earlier, put the difficulty down to easy and complete that. and A lot of these games might be eight to ten hours to actually complete, which sounds like a lot, but if you split that over, you know, a month, that's that's two hours a week.
00:26:50
Andrew Wilmot
game time with them. Now, you should never displace, say, reading a book together or something like but it can be a really positive activity and your child will appreciate it. And that's it.
00:27:02
Andrew Wilmot
So that is your guide on how to healthily and with as little pain as possible, remove Roblox or Fortnite from your child's life.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:27:11
Andrew Wilmot
Thank you to everybody who has emailed in.
00:27:13
Andrew Wilmot
I'm sure some of you will even recognise some of what I've said above already, but you know, you are the reason I'm doing this. really want to continue helping parents like you. So with that in mind, don't forget that if you've got any questions for me, or if you or your children have been impacted by anything that I've discussed today, you can get in touch with me on our website, thedopamineslockmachine.co.uk.
00:27:34
Andrew Wilmot
This has been The Dopamine Slot Machine. Thank you, and see you soon.