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TIDBITS EPISODE 7: Trips & Maps
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Road trip vibes this week—Rob explores the mountains of Colorado, Mike unleashes a nonstop stream of consciousness, and Gaz tries to keep us oriented with a map. Where are we going? Who knows. Buckle up
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Casual Start and Introductions
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through the atmosphere here. And thinking that I'm thinking of thinking only makes me think a kink in a way that only goes to sight that Descartes was right.
00:00:13
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Hey, guess what, guys? Guess what, guys? I don't know what you were saying, but another episode of Tidbits is underway. Hello, i was saying that I do other shows, and my favorite part is catching up with my friends a little bit before we start recording, but that seems to be taboo here. Hey, why don't you introduce yourself to all the millions of tidbities out there?
00:00:36
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hey it's me, Gaz, otherwise known as Gaz. Lots of stuff, including art. I just designed a package for a Japanese vinyl sofubi kaiju that I'm thrilled about. And I'm here with my buddy Mike and Rob, and we're going talk about a lot of stuff. Nothing I want to talk about, but lots of other stuff. Is he being quiet on, like, I know he's trying to be sexy, but is he being quiet her? That was sexy voice. He did a sexy voice for everybody. Mike, don't you introduce yourself? My name is Mike. I'm friends with Rob and Gaz. I'm going to start saying I have a book coming out in May, May 19th. New graphic novel. Woo!
00:01:05
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ah The Hidden Dominion of Geordie James. Everybody ah go pre-order right now from Barnes & Noble. What are we here to do, Rob? To do tidbits. And tidbits are, what do we call them again? What is it? Well, I guess we're just... It's it's ah it's ah storied pieces of trivia, and then we judge amongst ourselves who had the best one. But before we get to that, you didn't introduce yourself. Oh, my name is Rob, and I am friends with you guys. Before we get to that, I wanted to tell you we've hired somebody new here at the Tidbits Tower. His name is Bartholomew Bing Wickett. He's a former circus ringmaster who's now turned mail carrier who insists on announcing each package with a flourish. Here he is in the Tidbits Tower. He does have an overly grandiose Shakespearean tone about him.
00:01:51
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Bartholomew Wickett, how are you, Bing sir? Ah, hello there! I've got mail for all! box for you and a letter for you Packages, packages, packages, yes! Uh, if you could hand- I'm gonna grab this first envelope here.
00:02:06
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And-
Stephen King and The Shining Discussion
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I just grabbed it out of your pants pocket. Apparently, my nephew Aiden said all this discussion about Gaz's voice. He doesn't have a comment about the sexiness of your voice, but he does say you sound like the character Krillin, which I know you'll know. I don't know. all Yeah, I'm strong. this human on earth from crow does Do you sound like that guy? You know, I don't know because my wife is the bigger anime nerd and she's a huge Dragon Ball Z fan. So everything I know about Dragon Ball z is from watching with her, but she watches the Japanese. So I'm assuming he's speaking about the American actor, or not the Japanese actor, because I don't believe I sound like the Japanese. No, probably it's the American actor, but I don't know that for sure. I just have looked up a picture of Krillin and he looks more like Mike. That's true. Sort of short and stocky.
00:02:48
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Yeah. Yeah, he's really powerful though. He's very powerful, Mike. He's the most powerful human. He's best friends Goku, who's the most powerful. And he's married to an awesome android lady. That's cool. If you and I were to combine, we could be that character. Great. The next piece of mail I got, I got a lot of feedback. Everybody liked the werewolf story. And I thought we might reflect on the failed attempt to watch American Werewolf in London together. Oh, I forgot about that. We got together on Discord, but for some reason, again, I was having technical problems. We could hear each other well, but the movie was like whispering. So Mike was telling us what was being said as it was being said. I think we watched about 40 minutes of it in like an hour and a half. It was awesome. I enjoyed it. I finished it up after we got off. That movie gets so much credit for its special effects. And I think, first of all, they're dated. I think it's overstated. It's like a little too much. That's my take. The turning into a werewolf takes 45 minutes. He takes 45 minutes. You are a maniac. First of all, it was, for its time, amazing.
00:03:45
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And part of it is to take forever. It's body horror. It's not like, woohoo, I transformed like a superhero. It's like horrifying. Body horror can be quick. Oh, I got a pimple. quick Rob, yeah you should watch The Howling, hu another werewolf movie. The werewolf transformations in that one are 7,000 times longer. It's just like, know there's a scene where the guy's just standing still, like changing, and like he's like, um it's like manimal.
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I don't think any of our listeners will, but I remember Manimal. That leads me into this next piece of mail. Bing, if you'll hand it over. Here, take this. no Don't pull it from me. Just take it like a normal person, Robert. He's so Shakespearean. Girl!
00:04:27
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wait So wait, I wanted to mention there was a lot of people who actually were saying, how come no Christmas episode of Tidbits? hey And I feel like we should say we we were going to do it. I had a special guest really looking forward to joining us, and I know he'd be awesome. Oh, we know it's a boy now. All I know is this person would be fun, but then Mike got sick and his voice was so, we heard him, he couldn't talk. And
Post-Christmas Reflections and Banter
00:04:47
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then we rescheduled him. We heard him, he couldn't talk. We heard him. We heard him not talk. We heard It was either a masterful performance of somebody really desperately trying to get out and doing a tidbit. Did someone say masterful performance? No, no. I don't like paying this guy. he's just He loves it. Get him out of here.
00:05:04
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And then Gaz got sick, but i I wanted to let you guys know that this special guest who is a male. Male? Did someone say male? No. He will join us at at a later tidbit. But I wanted to say that we had, i was really psyched about my Christmas tidbit, and I'm going to have to wait a whole year to tell my Christmas tidbit. Did you guys have Christmas tidbits? I had one half developed. I had one that we were talking about recording prior to Christmas. We could have recorded after Christmas, but it's like my Christmas spirit evaporates.
00:05:34
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We had scheduled to see my family on Boxing Day, which is December 26th, to do the family Christmas. And you were like, bah humbug. Christmas is over! i literally just took down the last of my decorations yesterday. Wow, my decorations still up, but... But I hate them. But I do hate them. They're just a wilting tree. I'm like, oh, get it out of here. Well, let's get to our tidbits because I can explain why my Christmas tree is still up. That's part of your tidbit? I can connect it. Wait, wait, wait. There's one other thing i wanted to say. we had There's a fan of the show. His name is Hayden. He's from Florida. Message from Hayden.
00:06:09
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He's hoping to get into UF. So let's use our tidbits magic. Ultimate fighting? No, what University of Florida. It's a good school. i've known Okay, how would I know UF? I don't know anything about where you You've never of UF? No, I've heard UFO and I've heard of UFC. You couldn't put together university like you've heard of University of Florida. guess. I mean, every seed has a university with a state in their name. As someone who doesn't live Florida and who isn't living in colleges. hate this conversation. hate this conversation.
00:06:33
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Can we hire this person? I like this new character who hates the conversation. load with bar where I hate it all. All right, I'm going to roll the dice. I'll deliver it for you. All right, listen. Mike is one and two. I'm three. Gaz is four.
00:06:49
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All right, I'm ready to go. going to do my tidbits. You guys ready? Yes. I'm really excited about this tidbits. This is a good one. and And you guys might even kind of piece it together before the end, but just don't give it away. feel like you say that every single time. I know. Mike wants to get me back for me doing it to him. i i went out to Colorado for Christmas. I had a great time. i was visiting my sister, Heather, my brother in law, Lyle and my nephew, Aiden, who's a really good little dude. While I was there, we took a trip to the Stanley Hotel, which inspired this tidbit. So the Stanley Hotel is this big hotel it's outside of Boulder. It's in the middle of the mountains, kind of overlooks just all the mountains, like a little valley in all the mountains. And it's beautiful and it's kind of elegant and it's pretty cool. There's some cool lore to the Stanley Hotel. It is haunted, dun dun. But more than being haunted, it's famous for the following tidbit. So here it goes. In the mid-1970s, there was a writer and his wife who planned and what they anticipated to be a quiet and restorative getaway at the Stanley Hotel. This writer was not a household name, but he had had one successful novel and wanted to treat himself and his wife to a little mountain getaway in the mountains of Colorado, right? That sounds nice, right?
00:08:00
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So they checked into the Stanley, but it's the end of the season and winter has come. Snow fell, the staff were packing up, and most guests had already left. And anyone still around was planning to head out before the next big snowstorm hit. As the snowstorm arrived, so did the writer and his wife. And by the time they checked in, they were the only guests. The hotel was nearly empty except for like a skeleton crew of staff. So the writer and his wife, they managed to get dinner from a limited end of season menu, nothing fancy. And afterward, the writer's wife was like, I'm tired. I'm going up to bed. She turns in. But the writer himself, he couldn't sleep. So he did what I think a lot of us would probably do in a place like that. He wandered down long stretches of hallway, past dark rooms, through broad and vacant echoing ballrooms, through doors that opened in silence, up and down staircases, He lit a cigarette outside the winds howling, the snows relentlessly lashing the windows. And as he's wandering, he he finds himself getting creeped out because he's familiar with the lore of this hotel that people working there kind of told him. Somewhere in the building, there's ah a piano that's rumored to play by itself from time to time. And he's looking for that piano. There's a lot of whispers of people hearing children's laughter when no children are there. Stories that would typically just, you know, kind of make this writer smile, but in these circumstances left him a little disquieted, right? Didn't help that the writer had been told years earlier, a gas explosion had injured a housekeeper in the room that they were staying in, room 217. The housekeeper survived, but the room developed a reputation. Guests spoke of lights turning on and off, luggage being unpacked, people just sensing like a lingering presence in room 217. After he wandered around the the hotel forever, he kind of comes back to room 217 and he goes to sleep. And maybe it was a weird food from the limited menu. ah Maybe it was the still creepiness of the hotel or the raging storm outside. But whatever it was that night, he had a dream.
00:10:01
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He had a very vivid dream. And in the dream, he imagined his young son running down the hotel corridors, panicked and screaming while a fire hose, not coiled or lying still, but like alive, like slithering like a snake, was chasing after his son, chasing him, wanting his son. So the writer jolted awake, his heart's racing. He sits upright in bed. He lights a cigarette. He stares out the window as the snow is still pouring down. There's dark mountains beyond the hotel grounds. In that moment, half terrified, half electrified, an entire story flooded into his mind. A family, an isolated hotel, winter, ghosts, lore, nightmares, a child roaming the hallways, a father slowly unraveling, a building that remembered things.
00:10:45
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So the writer smiles because he knows he's got his next book. Maybe this is the one that's going to make him a household name the way his first novel, Carrie, just didn't do. The writer was Stephen King, and the story born out of the hotel became... Kujo. No, The Shining. The Shining. The Shining is a hotel. A story about a hotel. It's also worth noting that 217 is significant in the novel. The Stanley Hotel charges like an exorbitant amount for like two or three times what it charges for other rooms. And then like around Halloween, it's like $5,000 night. Really? In the movie, Stanley Kubrick's movie, the room is 237. People think he changed it to 237 because Kubrick has all these wild, crazy things he's trying to convey secretly. Like he's got all this symbolism and meaning in his movies. But really, they changed it to 217 because the movie was filmed at the Timberland Lodge in Oregon. And they were like, please, we have a room 217 and we don't want people to be scared to stay in it. So when you make it 237, there's no 237. There was a really bad 1997 miniseries TV based on The Shining that was more true to the book. The setting was awesome. They set interior and exterior shots at the Stanley because I started watching it last night because I'm like, oh, I was there. Why it's bad is they just hired the world's worst child actor. You just want to slap this kid. He's got a fish mouth. Ha ha! If you look up the movie, you'll see this kid. be like, Oh, yeah, he's totally got a fish mouth. What's wrong with that fish mouth kid who can't act? You want that hose pipe to get him. I do want to get him. By the way, the hose pipe thing does happen in the book, but not in the movie. Also, there was a hedge maze at the Stanley Hotel, although the hedge maze only appears in the movie, not in the book. In the book, it's a topiary like, you know, hedges cut to be in the shape of animals. And then the animals come alive and chase you, which is way creepier, I think. So quick follow Yeah. I'm pleased that you did remind us not to interrupt the whole time because the moment you started, I just wanted to shout the shining.
00:12:42
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yeah think Me too, but it was Cujo. Yeah, I think most of our listeners are going to kind of piece it together once they start hearing about a creepy hotel. But I didn't know. i didn't know that it came from Stephen King ah actually being at the hotel in Colorado. That's a new tidbit. Agreed. I didn't realize it was so much drawn from his real life. Yeah.
00:13:01
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And then now we know why Stanley Kubrick got to direct it because it was the Stanley. Yeah. How'd they do it? There's more in the novel that really is true to Stephen King. Like, there's a lot more about alcoholism, like the dad having, like, an alcohol problem. Well, that was in the movie, too, wasn't it? I guess it was, yeah. But they put more of a fine point on it, I think, in the book. But it was in the movie, yes. My only follow-up, which I already kind did, was about the miniseries. I never saw. seen the movie. I haven't seen the miniseries. I had heard that Stephen King preferred the miniseries. He wrote it. So he wrote it to be specific to his book. And it was good, except for that damn kid. Okay. When I'm sending you a link to the werewolf transformation scene in The Howling, I will also send you a link to the scene where the mother dies in Carrie. If you've never seen it, it is the funniest thing on the planet.
00:13:47
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um So listeners, go look that up because she just takes so long to die. And Carrie's there like waiting and like doesn't know where to look, like doesn't know where to make eye come contact because it's just like taking far too long. Yeah. And listeners, look up the kid who played Danny Torrance in 1997 miniseries of The Shining, and you will see he's got a ah fish mouth. Google fish mouth kid. No, don't. That won't get me anywhere. so my A lot of those shots from The Shining, like the overhead helicopter shots back when that was like a difficult thing to do. You can just get a drone.
00:14:17
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I believe that for Blade Runner, some of those shots were shared for the ending when they at the end of Blade Runner, like the the good happy ending. I think it was where he like needed these shots and he was done and they were like, you got to have a happy ending. And he got some of those from Stanley Kubrick's like B-roll from that. That's really funny. I was actually digging into the movie and I'm not going to go into it now, but like there's symbolism about what America did to the Native Americans in it. There is a lot of stuff about alcoholism. There's a lot of stuff about just domestic abuse.
00:14:44
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Like it can kind of be seen as just like the supernatural is just, you know, a manifestation. Like it's not really, it's just trauma, you know? No, it's heavy stuff. But, but you know, you also forgot to mention that ah the the character in the movie played by Scatman Crothers, Scatman Crothers played Jazz in the Transformers cartoons. We're bringing it back to Transformers. He did. Got to shine. All right, all bots, transform and roll out.
00:15:05
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Same guy. What an excellent way to bring things together, Gaz. Gaz, why don't you do your tidbit next? Absolutely. Well, we were talking about those overhead shots and the the roads and things like that at the end of the movie and how maybe they were using Blade Runner. And and if you're in a place like that, you might lose your sense of direction. You may not know what's going on. they didn't have GPSs back then. And even if they have it now, you might not know. Wait, what do you mean back then? Back then when the movie was out. Oh, I see. okay um And so something you might think about at any time, but maybe in that time, are maps. And if you remember, Mike had decreed that I had to do a tidbit about maps. I do remember that. Maps can be helpful and maybe point you in the direction that you need to go. Or if not, at least import some sort of general guidance. And feeling that in the literal sense, then perhaps spiritually or emotionally, at least maps can make you feel something. Now, of course, I'm referring to the alternative rock song by the band the Yeah Yeah Yeah's, Maps. And this song was released in 2003. But I'm not sure if I ever really heard it until 2007 when it came to Rock Band.
Tidbits on Music and TikTok Trends
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That's when I started liking it. The challenge of the game was fine, but it made me a fan of the song. And it was so popular that it was in Rock Band, then it was in Rock Band 3, it was in Lego Rock Band, and and Rock Band Blitz. So it did very well for itself in the video game format. But of course, more notably, in 2009, the British music magazine NME named Maps the best alternative love song of all time. And it's generally well thought of and seen as sort of the masterpiece of this band and and of that genre. And it kind of was doing its own thing. And then more recently, about year ago, Maps was a viral trend on TikToks. Several different things were doing, but some of it was using literal Google Maps of people's old houses, you know, and kind of feeling sentimental or doing a silly dance or whatever. And at first it was good because it sort of gave a boost to this older song and streaming revenue went up and it kind of, you know, gave the band something, a boost that I already said.
00:16:49
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But then there was sort of like this backlash of like, this is one of the most poignant songs. songs about love and yearning and loss and and directionlessness and and being across from where you want to be with someone. And it kind of became this like little virtual meme and it took a lot of the power away from it. And so was that good? Was that bad? Who's to say? But at the end of the day, this song maps the most important usage of the word maps.
00:17:10
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Quick follow-up. Can you sing Maps? Because I know this song, but I... They don't love you like I love you. They don't love you like I love you.
00:17:20
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um maps I'd have to pull up the lyrics. They say the word Maps, isn't it? It is, yes. Okay. It's the title of the song. and it And it comes in and there's a rumor, the female singer, Kedio, I think was her name, or Kellio, had broken up with ah the singer of another band, The Liars or whatever. And the rumor, and that's what this song is about. That's official, like when they broke up and he moved away, far away, maps, whatever. um And then there's the rumors that it's an acronym for his name was like, Marcus Allen, please stay or something like that. That's never been substantiated. But um the the the word maps is in the song as well as being in the title. I have a follow up. Yeah, we have prepared Christmas tidbits. Yes. Did you prepare a Christmas tidbits about math? No. Oh, you didn't. Okay, because there's a good NORAD related. mark Christmas superseded the the edict of maps. And I thought like, well, got to be on theme. I don't know where you got that information, but not from the tidbits. There are rules at tidbits. and i'm I remembered a month later that I was supposed to do maps. I think I meant to ask like, wasn't there something we're supposed to do? I think I like the idea of the winner gets to just gets to make up shit. okay
00:18:21
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I'm assuming most of our listeners are close, avid listeners who pay attention to every episode. So they all probably immediately knew that three months ago i had said to Gaz that he had to do a tidbit about maps. What I do like, it's it makes me feel like it's part of our friendship that you just wouldn't let me tell you to do something. You had to like come up with some contrary way I fulfilled the assignment. fulfilled your obligation, but you're not going to do it how it how I said to do it. Because I wanted to know all about ah latitudes and longitudes.
00:18:58
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You know what's funny is you're right, but I didn't set out to do that. I literally was like, what is a good map piece of trivia? Maps, maps, maps, maps. And then you're like, you don't love me like that. And I'm like, oh, I'll do the song. Because that was the only thing I could think of. I'm great, perfect. I like that song.
00:19:14
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What tidbit? ah Yeah, not bad. Mike, you're up. it's It's your go, Mike. You ready? I know that everybody everybody has been sitting here waiting, wanting to know why my Christmas tree is still
Tales from a Mexican Vacation
00:19:25
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up. Please, yes.
00:19:26
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And the reason is we went away after Christmas. We were here for Boxing Day for, you know, for me to see my family. And then we went to Mexico like a family vacation. It looked great. So two quick tidbits having to do with our trip to Mexico. We went to the Yucatan Peninsula and we rented a car, which was nice because we have been to Mexico a couple of years ago. We did like the kind of thing where just stay on the resort. And that kind of gets dull and you don't feel like you see much. We rented a car this time. We got out and did a bunch of things. And I feel like got to sort of at least get around a bit more. One of the things we did, we went on this like adventure day where you do zip lining through the jungle. You have to go up like across rope bridges and things like that, which I actually have a problem with. Historically, I'm not good at that kind of thing. I get a little like very freaked out. Is it because of the heights or because it's a rope bridge specific? Quick. Aside, when I was a teenager in the Boy Scouts, there was a rope bridge going across a lake. I had to go across. Yeah, I was there. It went across a lake, and I got on the thing, and then I froze and was too scared to keep walking. And then everyone was like, Mike, Mike, go. And I think I was up there for like 20 minutes just going. I thought I was so embarrassed for you. was so embarrassed for you. You were embarrassed. I was so cool up there. You were embarrassed. It fell and landed on the dirt. He fell off the rope bridge. He got back from the water where he would have landed safely. Safely in the water. planted off the rope bridge, which was like, you know, 10 feet off the ground. So you got detail wrong there. didn't fall off of it. It fell over. that's right. That's right. So yeah, I did hit the ground. I went to the nurse. don't know Rob, you came with me to the nurse. The main thing I remember is I was a little chubby at the time and the nurse said, you're okay. You have plenty of padding. So thank you. Thank you, nurse. Anyway, we did like this ATV thing as well. Have guys ever been on ATVs?
00:21:13
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Yeah. A long time ago. Yeah. I've never got an ATV before. So I was on one with my son on the back. He's 13. My daughter, who's 17, drove the other one with my wife sitting on the back. um And we're going through the jungle. like a half hour ATV ride through the jungle. never gone on one before. We went about five, ten minutes, about five minutes. My daughter got a little nervous, so she wanted to a switch with my wife. My wife then drove the ATV into off the road and into the woods and crashed it. Crab.
00:21:42
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Because she never driven one either. And like she because she wasn't going to drive it. She didn't hear the part where it just says, if you need to stop, just take your hand off the thing. um crash thedding And then she wasn't allowed to drive it anymore. So then my daughter drove the rest of the way because she's actually a very good driver. Part of what this brings me to is that ah historically, I've ruined a lot of our family vacations with my intrusive thoughts. gone to some places and I've gotten very freaked out and like taken all the fun out of it, such as we went to the Grand Canyon when my son was like five or six years old. yeah And the whole time I would just like could not stop having intrusive thoughts about him just like falling off the edge of the Grand Canyon. And I ruined the whole the whole day. i was being i I was told I had to walk away from the rest of the family. Oh, But that day, an old lady fell in the Grand Canyon and died. So I was vindicated.
00:22:30
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Yes. Because because it was like, oh, what's the helicopter doing up there? Probably just doing a tour. No, they were actually looking for the body of some lady who fell in the Grand Canyon because apparently happens quite a lot there because there are no fences. Why? Why not put up like some ropes or something? Because the grandeur of this Grand Canyon, you know, you can't put up some fences or ropes. Don't go there till you are prepared to, like, you know, have children who you trust not to just run off the edge of the canyon. I also ruined, we went to Barbados two years ago. We went snorkeling. Stupidly, we're the only people on this like booze cruise thing where we all went snorkeling. We thought that we were better swimmers than we are and we didn't wear our life vests. oh We got in the water and the current was actually quite strong. We all started getting carried away. The strong swimmer that I am, I i swam back to ah the boat. I managed to finally get there. And I shouted at everyone on the boat who was all drunk to throw me a life vest because had to save my family. I swam back to my family and I threw this uninflated life vest over my wife's head.
00:23:26
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She was like my yeah embarrassed. Like literally we got back on the boat and she wouldn't. She sat somewhere else on the boat. How is it like your fault that you got stuck out there? We didn't get stuck. And I think it's like I should have trusted that they're actually everyone's like a strong swimmer. It was a little scary, but it was okay. So she was fine. You were making it an emergency. You weren't saving her. You were making a scene. I was just being a freak show. But what I like is now she crashed to the ATV. We're all canceled out.
00:23:54
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No one has like anything like where they can like hold over you there anymore. location And she only ruined one. So you're still worse. Yeah, but hers is worse. She crashed the ATV. All the other like people on the adventure thing could come over. Your tidbit is just your your vacation adventures ah in anxiety. I haven't got to the tidbit yet. And when I get there, you're going to look at the other stuff.
00:24:17
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Yeah. So anyway, so that was a lot the vacation. I'll get to the tidbits. Two parts. First one is we went to a grocery store in the grocery store in Mexico. I noticed in the cereal aisle there were stickers over the cartoon character faces on all the cereal boxes. All of them. Like, not just one, because I thought maybe was just something like someone to put like a label over it, but all of them were. And then I looked it up after. And apparently in Mexico, they have a law that you cannot have cartoon characters on high sugar packages because it entices children to buy that package they believe. So Bluey was those Bluey cereal. I know Gaz likes Bluey and Bluey's face was all like covered up because you can't have his face on there getting those kids to eat that sugary cereal. Bluey's a girl. So this is the tidbit. The tidbit is that somebody has the job of covering up the cartoon character's faces on all the boxes in the grocery store. But also, when I went to some other stores, I noticed that they also do have exclusive Mexican cereal boxes where the design is already made so the cartoon character is not visible. You just sort of see Tony the Tiger's ear, like, on the side, like, poking in on the side. What was that? What's that? What's the toucan one for Froot Loops? Toucan's ham? Yeah, like, just the tip of his nose was visible. Yeah.
00:25:26
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a The second tidbit is whenever we go on a vacation where we're swimming, I feel like watching a shark movie. We watch Deep Blue Sea. Have you seen Deep Blue Sea? You have been talking about this movie for 30 years. You've been talking about how this is the best movie of all time. I've watched it very, very many times. Anyone rolling their eyes right now should watch Deep Blue Sea because a far better movie than you would think it would be for like a, you know, it's this, the plot is it's the sharks. Yeah, smart sharks. They've been genetically engineered for like scientific reasons and yet to cure Alzheimer's and they're smart. So they're basically like hunting down and destroying this underwater base. Very good movie. It is good. Probably shouldn't have put it on when we're doing a lot of swimming in the ocean. I took my 13 year old son out snorkeling in the ocean behind where we were staying. And he was a bit nervous after we'd watched the movie. And while we were snorkeling, he did actually see a great barracuda, which is actually a fairly large fish. And I heard him scream and I knew he was right by And then it was like, ever see, I know you've seen Forrest Gump. You know the scene where like Forrest is like, he's got his leg things on and you see him like start to run and he runs out of frame and then like the camera pans around and then like he's already like hundreds of feet down the road. Yeah. It was exactly like that. Like I heard him scream. I brought my head up and he was already at shore. A very good swimmer. And I was actually quite, I wasn't really in the mood to snorkel. So I was like, oh, good job putting on deep blue sea. Cause I don't really feel like doing this right now. So you did kind of ruin that vacation a little bit too there, that part. the actual tidbit is, wow.
00:27:01
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so Sorry. This is what happens when you don't let us catch up before the show, Rob. He just puts it right in the show. Fine. I think that's better. I really want to see how any of this relates to this tidbit. If you've seen Deep Blue Sea, hu the plot is Saffron Burrows is the female scientist. She's making sharks smart. And now when you've got three sharks smart, smart sharks, there's a real problem.
00:27:23
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The three sharks all do get killed. I'm going to spoil the movie because as you said, it's 30 years old One of them is killed by Saffron Burrows. She electrocutes one of them. Okay. One of them is killed by LL Cool J, who plays the chef. he ah He gets put in his own oven by one of the sharks, and he escapes, and the gas is going. He throws a lighter at it, and it blows up the shark. And then at the end of the movie, the final largest shark is killed also by LL Cool J. And I was always thought, for the last 30 years, I'm like, why does LL Cool J kill two of these sharks? Thomas Jane is the main character. Saffron Burrows, they sort of have a bit of a love interest thing going on. And I learned for the first time after my 8,000th watch of this movie that originally Saffron Burrows, who gets eaten by the large shark at the end of the movie, um and enabling Thomas Jane to get on the thing and attach it to this thing leg that causes it to blow up thanks to LL Cool J. LL Cool J pushes the button to... blow up the shark that was originally going to be saffron burrow she was going to survive but test audiences like hated her character and so the fact that she like survived killed the shark and gets like kiss thomas jane at the end because the movie basically sets her up as being the person responsible for her doing all this to them right and so i found out they did one day of reshoots they just swapped it out for ll cool j because it doesn't really make sense he wakes up from a coma ll cool j gets to kiss him at the end ll cool j was not going to survive then if He was going to survive. he just was going to be like passed out because he'd been bitten in the leg. Sorry, I know I'm all over the place. I should write down my my tidbits. But the final tidbit is... What? This is like the Return of the King ending.
00:28:56
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That audiences hated Saffron Burroughs watching this movie. She's responsible what it's doing. And I can confirm because my wife sat with me while we watched this movie. And the whole time she kept saying, when's this bitch going to get it?
00:29:10
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So can't confirm that that i understand why audiences felt the way they did. So that was a tightly composed tidbit. i'm about You know what's funny is when I did my tidbit, it was sort of short and sweet and just sort of like more or less a fact. And I was like, this is like old school Mike Dawson style what I'm doing this week. But Mike, you've evolved. You have evolved to a random man. Sorry. All right. Follow ups. Gaz, you got follow ups? Uh, no, actually don't. I think he covered everything. I think he literally covered everything. I do want to make sure I assume, you know, your wife and daughter were okay and the ATV was okay and you didn't have to pay like $6 million dollars to like fix an ATV. Like a dad and his, and his like grown sons came and like helped us pull it out of the woods. So was just kind of embarrassing, but I've decided to not be the kind of person who gets embarrassed anymore. i just like good man i was like, well, that, you know, well, well,
00:30:00
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yeah I think my my New Year's resolution is along those lines. My New Year's resolution is to do as much as I can to be more like Ted Lasso. My New Year's red resolution is to try to read 365 comics. That's a little more quantifiable than be more like Ted Lasso. I feel like it's an achievable goal.
00:30:16
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What's your resolution, Mike? like like i don't know. Maybe it's just ah to accept me for who I am.
00:30:23
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Great. All right, let's vote. Gaz, who gets your vote this week? It's tough because objectively, Rob, yours is a better tidbit. It is. But you never vote for me. Right. And our listeners say, why is Gaz your mortal nemesis? And I said, what do you mean? And they say he never votes for you. Here's the thing. I was disappointed to not catch up with my friends at the beginning of the show. Mike's tidbit was catching up with my friends during the show. I found that enjoyable. Your tidbit was great, but it was kind of like listening to a lecture. I don't know. Yours is objectively, quantifiably better. It didn't have the fireside chat tone I was going for. It really didn't. A little bit, but but I felt like, oh, Mike's letting me into his life and Rob is just teaching me. so Yeah, I'm not letting you in my life. I'm too guarded. I'm too guarded. Yeah, like some things are private guys. I'll tell you what I am gonna vote for you, Rob, because I think I just out of fairness, I have to. vote Yeah, he's just voting for me to prove that he's not my mortal memesis. Yeah, it's the right vote. It's the right. What's the goddamn right call? ah I'm gonna vote for Rob as well. All right.
Tidbit Voting and Future Topics
00:31:22
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All right. And I'm gonna vote for Mike because I really enjoyed Mike's, although it was very circumlocutory. So the new rule is you get to assign a topic to someone. Yeah, that's good. I like i like that. So I'm going to assign... Gaz got it last time. So Mike, I'm going to assign to you... I want you to do a tidbit.
00:31:42
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ah Do one about Legend of Zelda. Legend of Zelda. Yeah, you got to do a Legend of Zelda tidbit. That's an easy one for Mike. You think? Well, Mike likes Zelda as much as you do. Not as much as Rob does. Mike likes Zelda a lot. Mike likes Zelda a little bit. played Breath of the Wild. He's not like of the biggest Zelda fan. That's a little bit... didn't vote for mine, but I just want to say I'm absolutely krillin' it today.
00:32:04
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I just looked up famous lines that Krillin says, and that's one of So there you go. I don't know if I sound the way he sounds, but I'm Krillin. Yeah, I got to look up his voice. And you guys have to look up the fish mouth kid from The Shining. And I have to look up a werewolf that takes three hours I don't have to look up anything. I'm good. I think we should. I'm going to fix Discord, and we should all watch Strange Blue Sea together. That's not show. a movie. No, the movie. What is it? The Strange? What's the one about the smart sharks? smart sharks. Deep Blue Sea. Deep Blue Sea.
00:32:33
Speaker
What did I call it? Strange new sea? Strange new sea. Strange new sea. Guys, this was fun. We can chat after the show if you'd like yet, but I think this is Is MAPS going to be the outro song this week?
00:32:45
Speaker
Which one? don't love you like love Bye. They don't love you like I love you in a way. They don't love you like I love you in a way.
00:33:36
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