Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Ep.131 Conscious Way of Life with Roxanne Chaput
3 Plays6 minutes ago
Discover what living consciously truly means — beyond theory and into daily rhythm, conscious leadership, and relationship with nature.
In this expansive and grounding conversation with Roxanne Chaput, we explore how intuition, reciprocity, and multidimensional awareness shape the way we live, lead, and create. From corporate spaces to spiritual embodiment, this dialogue invites you to reimagine what it means to exist in integrity with your true nature.
Hosted by Tigrilla Gardenia, Nature-Inspired Mentor and founder of the Naturally Conscious Community, Reconnect with Plant Wisdom explores ecosystem intelligence, plant communication, and conscious evolution through conversations that bridge science, spirit, and lived experience.
✨ Ready to move from awareness to embodiment?
Join the Naturally Conscious Community (NCC) — a global space where ideas like these become living practices.
What You’ll Learn About Conscious Leadership & Nature-Based Living
🌿 Harmonize intuition and logic to lead consciously
🌿 Embody multidimensional awareness in work and life
🌿 Recognize truth as relational — and expand your collaboration with others
🌿 Reclaim your connection to land, ancestry, and kin through ecosystem practices
✨ Resources
🌱 Expanded Show Notes
🌱 Join the Naturally Conscious Community
🌱 Explore Roxanne’s retreats
👤 Guest Spotlight: Roxanne Chaput
Roxanne Chaput is a globally renowned modern-day embodied Creatrix Oracle, known for her revolutionary intensional path-cutting for conscious creators, change agents, and disruptive embodied heart leaders. Her work supports the anchoring of primordial, creational, god-sovereign liberty — guiding humanity back to reunification with the sacred passages of land that sustain, provide, and nurture through the elemental kingdoms of creation.
Through her retreats and teachings at The Illumination Retreat, Roxanne helps others awaken their multidimensionality, integrate ancestral wisdom, and lead from the heart with integrity, consciousness, and reciprocity.
🔗 Connect & Explore More
🌿 Website
🌿 Contact
🌿 Shop Eco-Conscious Partners
Socials
📸 Instagram
📘 Facebook
💼 LinkedIn
▶️ YouTube
🎵 Credits
Opening + Closing music by @Cyberinga and Poinsettia
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction to Episode 131
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Reconnect with Plant Wisdom. It's me, Tigiri Agartena. This interview, conversation, guesting went completely in a different direction, and I am here for it I'm so loving it.
00:00:18
Speaker
I, Roxanne Chaput, and I had the most delightful experience Delightful is not the right word because it was deep, but it was easy and it was a light and it was vast and yet it was specific. It was all these great things.
00:00:34
Speaker
We had such a fantastic conversation that took us to the very heart of what we've been talking about here on ah Reconnect with Plant Wisdom, which is this aspect of you are nature, we are nature. And what does that entail? What are the reciprocal relationships that get created as a part of that?
00:00:53
Speaker
And how does that change the way that you experience life? So I am just super excited for you to listen to this episode, watch this episode, whichever it is that you're doing, because i think it's just going to blow your mind into completely new directions.
00:01:10
Speaker
And like I said, I'm here for it. so With that, I leave you with episode 131, Conscious Way of Life. Welcome to Reconnect with Plant Wisdom.
Nature-Inspired Mentorship
00:01:23
Speaker
I'm your host, Tigria Gardenia, nature-inspired mentor, certified life coach, and the founder of the Naturally Conscious Community. For over a decade, I've been known as a world ambassador for plant advocacy, working closely with plants to share their practical wisdom to help you consciously embody the elements of life that nourish your evolution.
00:01:42
Speaker
In this podcast, I delve into ancient and modern knowledge from biology to spirituality about the wondrous ways of plants. Together, we'll explore how ecosystem thinking helps you overcome limiting beliefs, understand the true nature of relationships, and live an authentic, impactful life.
Roxanne's Journey to Spiritual Leadership
00:02:01
Speaker
Hello, Roxanne. So, you know, I have to say, I'm going to say this, it's totally going to interrupt the flow for a second, but I love your setup. I love the like white with the black. I'm a very much a white and black person, like black and white stuff is, i feel as I'm dressed in, you can't see it today, but I'm dressed in black and white myself.
00:02:21
Speaker
I like white pants with like black, my, my pants actually look like your curtain behind you. Oh, I love that. So we're definitely kindred spirits. Exactly.
00:02:34
Speaker
There are so many already questions that I have that, you know, from from some of the things that we ended up talking about when we did our pre-interview. But before I start, can you share with the audience who is Roxanne?
00:02:47
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I am a mother of three beautiful children. And, you know, nature has always been a massive part of my life and upbringing from my traditional, you know, Indigenous and Native American roots. and you know, my path was really cultivated. i started in, you know, very corporate, you know, background doing everything that I thought I was supposed to do. and very much got called into my spiritual path and my spiritual leadership where I now you know teach at a global level and I teach consciousness and not just consciousness of the human body, but consciousness of everything that is around us and within us in the interconnectedness of us. So I really help a lot of global leaders come to this place where they're
00:03:32
Speaker
the impact that they create in the world is not you know not always just in consideration of our humanity, but the humanity and the earth and how it sustains us and how we actually live in a place of beauty and integrity and to be able to look at that as the divine collective one, essentially.
Corporate Careers and Spiritual Work
00:03:52
Speaker
I'd love that so much. And as you were talking, I was thinking about my own corporate experience. I was recently interviewed for a podcast and we she she had me, it's called, it's about pivotal moments in careers in particular, because she's a career coach.
00:04:05
Speaker
And so of course we started off with my corporate career and then we were kind of going off. And I was realizing as I was listening to you that just the gift of having had that experience, and I'm wondering if you feel the same way, because it's as if it gave us an entry point into the language that reaches ah grouping of people that really need the types of work that we do.
00:04:29
Speaker
And I found that like, rather than thinking of, Oh, why did I spend my time there? Or what the heck I was doing there? It's more like, Oh my goodness, what a great opportunity I had to get into that psyche to understand, you know, what it is that they're thinking and how they're experiencing.
00:04:45
Speaker
and then be able to turn around and offer something that for those that love the corporate culture and that want to stay in there helps them do it, like you said, with integrity, with consciousness, with a direction and and something completely different. What was your experience like as you transition through those two spaces?
00:05:03
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And I really want to touch on something that you just highlighted there. And, you know, we we come from an aspect of that experience where we're able to see in terms of, you know, I served in leadership a lot of the capacity of what I embodied and how you actually are able to take the alchemy of that, you know, the medicine, the learnings, the teachings of those experiences and the connections and the networking that happens from these pivotal places is also a place that we can speak to and reference where,
00:05:34
Speaker
We are not just human and we know that. We know that through scientific studies, we know that through religious structures, we know that we are multidimensional beings, but how can we actually serve as conscious leaders in our multidimensionality, in acceptance of our multidimensionality?
Intuition in Leadership
00:05:49
Speaker
There's so many leaders that, you know, have intuitive gifts, but then feel like they can't embody them full selves because they are are at a C-level leadership capacity. And that they can't rely on those gifts or they can't you know be expressive of those gifts because they have hesitancy to be in their multidimensionality.
00:06:07
Speaker
So there is that piece that interconnects. How do I actually lead in a way that creates harmonization within all of me? and how am I actually able to serve from that capacity and serve from a place that is not from wounded perspective, but from a place where I can have conscious awareness, acceptance, accountability, and so forth?
00:06:27
Speaker
So when for me in in that piece, like I loved, you know, being in leadership roles, I still, you know, help a lot of corporations be in leadership roles and how they can actually be the leader that they actually choose to be and how they actually want to create their business and create expansion within their business. So.
00:06:45
Speaker
For me, it was just how can I take what I've mastered in in that time? And as you know, we're always on a journey of mastery. And even in our own personal leadership of our own life, we still learn those leadership principles and those values of how we actually run our households, run our lives, all of these things that come intertwined. So for me, it was...
00:07:07
Speaker
It was just a shift for me that I knew that where I was going to affect change and where I was going have the greatest impact wasn't going to be under a corporate umbrella that I wasn't actually the core leader of that ah that umbrella.
00:07:21
Speaker
And then how can I serve in a place that would actually be efficient and how would it be impactful to actually be in those spaces of the connections that I've already established, that I've already built, and how can I serve from that place and how can I teach, right? There's always this aspect that we're always teaching and we're always learning. We're always a student and we're always, you know, teaching in those in those spaces. And how can I have taken all of the, know, that tangibility of the touch points that I've created and the relationships that I've created and how can I actually make that even more nourished and how can I flourish that even more profoundly? Yeah.
00:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think that that's such an important piece because, you know, as you said earlier, like there are many people who have all these gifts, they have all these talents, they're on the weekends, they're taking classes or they're experiencing things. And yet when they get there in the morning, it's like they feel like they have to put on this skin or this this mask that separates them from that. And I think having people, I know that, for example, just earlier today, I was with a client and the reason he came to me was because i have a background in similar technologies to the technology he works for.
00:08:37
Speaker
And hes he's been in telecommunications and working, he's an engineer. And he was like, when I saw you were an engineer, and then I saw that you were talking about all these other things, I was so intrigued because it it made him feel like when he comes to me talking to me about what's happening in his corporate world right now,
00:08:52
Speaker
I can understand where it's coming from. I can speak that same language and I can help him bring those kind of gifts, like all the other stuff that he has into that environment in a way that feels comfortable and safe and also effective.
Integrating Intuition in Business Settings
00:09:07
Speaker
Because, I mean, as much as I am woo and weird, it also makes sense that if I'm sitting inside of a...
00:09:15
Speaker
corporate meeting like back when I used to work on Windows, you know, here I am in Windows, you you don't talk from that same place, even though I might be bringing those same principles in, I just use a different vocabulary.
00:09:26
Speaker
And so so being able to have somebody that understands why that vocabulary maybe doesn't fit, even though, like you said, all those principles of consciousness and integrity and being aligned with yourself and being able to hear those gifts and how do you verify, like, how do you introduce Okay, I have a very clear, you know, guided instinct that I'm supposed to go in this direction where the plant I would tell him sometimes I'm like, when the plant in the corner of the office whispers to you, obviously, I can't just say that.
00:09:57
Speaker
Like, I'm sorry, we're gonna do this today. And they're like, why? And you're like, because you know, the little ficus tree over here is telling me so. Like, you can't say that in a corporate meeting.
00:10:07
Speaker
That doesn't mean you can't listen and you can't act on it. It just means you have to find the right vocabulary in order to bring that in And it's so funny that you say this because as, you know, as you were...
00:10:22
Speaker
expanding on this, the first thing that, you know, Spirit showed me was language. Like, how do we bring this into our linguistics that actually feel very comfortable, feel very safe and very secure, but also add a little bit of curiosity?
00:10:36
Speaker
You know, like, it's important that we don't hide aspects of ourselves. And, you know, we want to have these analogies and in these perceptions that what we connect to is woo, but in reality, that's discrediting our soul. That's discrediting the spirits. That's discrediting what is actually of who we actually are, right? It's not a place that we're coming into acceptance. We're having a bit of resistance when we're like, oh, I can't show that but part of me. I can't show this aspect of me, but how can I bring this into language? How can I simplify this?
00:11:06
Speaker
And how can I bring this into context where, know, You know, if somebody asked me, like, where did you where where did that come from? You know, how am I able to actually embody where that truly came from and actually honor myself in that way? And that is part of the integrity piece of being a conscious leader is being able to step into those uncomfortable spaces.
00:11:26
Speaker
and make those uncomfortable conversations comfortable. And how do we expand in that? How do we bring the linguistics? How do we bring the language? And how do we add some, you know, I hate the word normal, but how do we bring a bit of that normalization into how we you know we interact as a cultural dynamic. And I've served with many leaders where they were like, I'm hesitant to like say that you know intuitively I felt this and this is why I went in this direction. But I said, that actually reassures a lot of the people that you're serving because you're not just making a logically based decision. You're actually coming from your own intuitiveness. You're coming from your own knowingness and you're integrating that into the decisions that you're putting forth.
00:12:09
Speaker
And you're showing that you have that compassion, that humanness, and that soulful knowing as well. And that's really empowering. Yeah, and I think I'm glad that you, you you know, you refined it and you like that that precision in what you were saying, because I totally agree with you. And I think that it's not, I think we tend to, we like the general people in those corporate environments tend to think that the problem is saying that I got an intuitive hit or that the plant in the corner of the room, so you know, told me.
00:12:37
Speaker
And that's actually not the problem. What causes a problem for some people, like what could cause and what is the perception problem is, If you believe that you got that hit and that is the absolute only answer. And so therefore you cut off all other conversation where instead I think, like you said, normalizing or showing, Hey, I got that from the plant or I got that from like an intuitive hit. My guidance is telling me this now let's go, let's go verify that this is good. Let's go like start to apply it and then see where it takes us. Like it's, it's the after part of it.
00:13:11
Speaker
Absolutely. That gives it that gives it that value, as you just said. and And I agree with you completely. I mean, I'm somebody who doesn't even when I worked, I was just, you know, in that that that interview, i was explaining to her a whole series of things and I never hid any of what I did or who I was or any of that type of stuff. But I did learn very quickly that it's important for us to still treat that the same as ah if I had market data.
00:13:39
Speaker
that told me the exact same thing, right? I would then say, okay, I'm going to take this as my foundation. And then now what are we going to do to see whether or not this is the right direction for us? And whether it's an intuitive hit, we have to treat it that same way.
00:13:51
Speaker
Absolutely. And that's the beautiful piece about being a conscious and being in your own consciousness of your own leadership is that you're always willing to see and hear other people's perspectives. If we're not, we're definitely in the ego, right? So when we're leading from the ego and the spiritual ego, and we don't want to you know, hear anything different of maybe it's a metric, maybe it's a data point, maybe it's someone saying, you know what, I i feel maybe they have a different intuitive hit, maybe they have a different sensation.
00:14:20
Speaker
How do we bring these into collaborative spaces? And how do we have openness? And how do we have that dialogue and communication? And and in a way that is very expressive and very accepting. And that is the piece is the more that we accept ourselves as leaders, the more that we can accept others. And when we're not just calibrated from our perception and perspective, and if we create teams and we create an environment and we create a cultural dynamic that we want to entrust our team, then we also have to enter into those spaces with that profound knowingness. And with that being the baseline of every conversation is that we're always open
00:14:54
Speaker
to suggestions, recommendations, pivoting, perspective, perceptions, all of these fundamental pieces. I absolutely love this because it taps into a thread that over time I've i've realized is really the most important thing is that the more comfortable you become with whatever knowledge base you're working from, whether that be an intuitive one or a learned one, it doesn't really matter.
00:15:18
Speaker
The more comfortable you are, the more open you know, the more you trust yourself, the more open you are to that dialogue that you just said. And I feel like ah especially when it comes to anything that is extra sensory, let's just say, or beyond this the five senses that we know and beyond what we learn in like, you know, traditional classrooms, I think that this is why it is so important that these things that we call gifts and talents really become your own and become something that you practice and you work with and you continuously
00:15:50
Speaker
have a relationship because then it becomes something that you can dialogue with. And that means introducing others into the equation. The more you think of it as this like super special little talent that only comes in this way. And therefore you have to listen to it because if not, something's going to go wrong, then you're not able to integrate that into your own life, but as well as the practices that you do with others in whatever, whatever kind of environment that you're in.
Roxanne's Path to Self-Mastery
00:16:23
Speaker
And so I'd really love to hear from you, like how, because, you know, you you mentioned it just in your interest, so many different pieces, you know, your indigenous roots. your connection to nature, your connection then to your guides and and all of this consciousness.
00:16:38
Speaker
Can you tell us a little bit of backstory? Like how, start wherever you feel is comfortable. Like where do you think you started from that helped you on the path towards that comfortableness, that mastery that's yours that means i could totally be wrong because it's still mine and therefore I'm open to this dialogue with others.
00:17:01
Speaker
Absolutely. And that's, you know, that's such a beautiful question. It's such a powerful question. And, you know, i really before I even get into the story of it is just. that one piece that you're touching on is like you have this internal medicine and you have your own inner truth, but your inner truth isn't somebody else's inner truth. And when we teach in conscious leadership is that my truth isn't your truth and your truth isn't my truth, depending on the soul memory, the soul history, the soul pathways, all of these things come into that interconnection, but there is a resonance of truth. And it doesn't mean that your truth is going to have the exact same pathways as my truth has,
00:17:38
Speaker
But there is going to be resonance when we have a conversation, we feel the resonance of the conversation, we can feel that to sit in our knowingness and not go into, you know, the logical aspects of the brain and become more analytic with it. But we come more into the intuitiveness, and the more knowingness of it, where it actually speaks to the soul and doesn't just speak to the brain.
00:17:56
Speaker
And the brain is a beautiful thing. But there is this piece that you know when Every leadership conversation and every retreat, it's always important that just because I see something or I have visions of something or I have channeled information of something doesn't mean that it's congruent with somebody else, and nor is it meant to.
00:18:15
Speaker
My mastery is my mastery. Your mastery is your mastery. And how do we actually envelop those gifts and how do we develop them even more within you and not through my guidance of myself, but through your own pathway and your own guidance? And how do we tap into that very powerfully and to be a place of empowerment and not disempowerment because my truth isn't your truth. So if I am cultivating teachings around my truth, then that isn't in an integrity that isn't in the congruency of a view, right? So,
00:18:43
Speaker
That is like that differentiating point that I've really come to understand and understand within my pathway is that everyone has their own gifts and their own abilities and we're all each individually gifted and we all have our own strengths, but we all come together as collective collaboration and we all come together to be able to fortify and to be able to unify our strengths individually.
00:19:05
Speaker
And we learn from one another. We mirror one another. we We are able to sit in somebody else's alchemy and their truth, and we can actually say, where does this feel in the resonance of me?
00:19:16
Speaker
And for me and my pathway, ever since I was this little girl, I just had this deep knowingness. The angels would come to me. i would have I was channeling at a very young age. And, you know, I'd have strangers come up to me and people come up to me. And i remember my mom just being like, you know, sitting back and be like, wow, like people would come to me and share their whole life story with me and ask me, you know, which directional path that they should take or what was my perception? What was I kind of tapping into? And My mom's like, you know, you should really be a counselor. You should, you know, be a psychologist. You should go into psychiatry, something like that. And that just never spoke in the resonance of me. But if I would have listened to somebody else's truth of their perception and their perspective of me, I would have led myself down a path that really didn't feel in the congruency of me in that now moment.
00:20:03
Speaker
And for me, it was just this thing that was my whole life. And I would try to explain to people like I just – had this burning fire inside of me that I was meant to serve. And I didn't know what that was. I didn't know what that was going to look like, but I knew that I was going to have a global impact. I knew that it was going to be, i didn't know for what, I didn't know how it was going to be. I didn't even know what my strengths were. I didn't even know where my gifts were because when you are you, you are you and you don't understand, you don't understand anything different than you.
00:20:34
Speaker
And I remember trying to have that resonance with other people, you know, like, do you feel this way? Like, do you hear, you see things? Like all of these things, I was just trying to have some normalization because even though we want to be individuals at the same time, we also want to be like others. And we also want to be in community when we're learning our own identity and when we're learning ourselves, because that's what we are taught.
00:20:58
Speaker
We are taught to be in a place of others' acceptance and not within our own inner acceptance. So that was a lot of my path. And i went down the corporate world. I knew that I wanted to lead an organization.
00:21:12
Speaker
i didn't know the pathway that I was going to take to get there. As you know, we have you know hundreds and thousands of different pathways that we can choose. And I went down a corporate way and I lost a little bit of myself in in these things because I allowed myself to be lost in those things. That's the reality. We have the power of choice at any given moment.
00:21:32
Speaker
And it wasn't that I lost me completely, but I lost that connectivity that I used to have so fluidly and so easily that that was where I always had this assurance that I was on the right path or that you know Everything was going to be okay no matter what turbulence had happened in my life, no matter what experiences I was moving through heavy you know light, I always knew that I was going to be supported and protected and cared for and no matter what, if I was to be here on the earth or not. so
00:22:04
Speaker
I just always had that knowingness. And in corporate, you know, a lot of times we're focused on the bottom line, you know, profitability, income, revenue drivers, you know, returns of investment, all of these things that were take a lot of your energy, take a lot of your time and take a lot of just who you are. Right. And it's just, and it's just that natural thing because I didn't know how to cultivate my multidimensionality in that now moment. I just knew that business was business and that's where I needed my focus. And then I would, you know, when I commit to something, I commit a hundred percent to something and I'm inundated into it and I'm, you know, working hard at it because if I commit to something, I'm going to give it everything that I have.
00:22:50
Speaker
And that commitment to that also allowed me to have less commitment to myself. And it wasn't until I had my first near-death experience that I was like, what the hell am I doing? ah Let's take a minute and pause so that I can introduce one of my eco-conscious business partners.
00:23:07
Speaker
For over a decade, I've had the profound joy of working with the music of the plants, a musical instrument made just for plants. This very music is what's marked my own plant reawakening, guiding me to reconnect with nature in an entirely new way.
00:23:21
Speaker
Imagine in listening to the harmonious melodies of your plant companions and feeling their wisdom and presence through the language of music. It's an experience that has transformed my life and the lives of so many other people.
00:23:35
Speaker
If you're curious about the hidden songs of plants and want to connect to your plant friends in a completely new way, I invite you to discover more at tigriadagenia.com slash music of the plants.
00:23:47
Speaker
It's in the show notes. Plant music is great for healing, sharing, and personal connection. Let's continue our journey of personal evolution and plant consciousness together with the Songs of Plants.
00:24:00
Speaker
Yeah. And and there's la so many, so many, so many pieces. I love you. you I love how you put something that I talk about often also into a completely different vocabulary. And I think that that's one of the things I love about doing this podcast is that it gives us the opportunity to.
00:24:17
Speaker
to hear it, as you said, from other people and then look at like where the similarities, where it is, which is, you know, we say here at Dahmenhaar, there is no absolute truth in the world of form. Everything is relational truth. Everything is a fractal of the truth.
00:24:32
Speaker
And what you're doing in gathering as many versions of this truth as possible is you're assembling this fractal. And so, yeah, you like you said, the essence of truth and you get closer and closer to it, the more sides of that fractal you start to fill up, you start to realize, but yet it's always still fractional because it always is based on a person's lived experiences, their past lives, their soul journey, everything that they've had.
00:24:59
Speaker
colors and filters that truth. So even if you state exactly the same phrase, both people are going to interpret that slightly differently because of that. And so that's actually the richness because in doing that, and I think that's that's the reason why, you know, working with others in community or doing things in groups is so powerful because you get to assemble a more complete version of the truth. that can then resonate out. You find also the essence that is common to everyone.
00:25:33
Speaker
And at the same time, what is the part that is most resonant to you so that you can take it that way? And others might find a different, a slightly different version of it. And yet we're still applying the same common logic or the same common truth from the two. the two And I just I love that part. It's one of the things that both living in community, since I live in community, as well as I have an online community and doing so much really with others.
00:26:02
Speaker
has given me this richness of seeing how my ideas or the things that come to me or my gifts just get accentuated when they're put into that prism and you have all these other sides.
00:26:15
Speaker
And it might be in a direction I never expected, you know, or it might. It might even be discovering that something that I thought was innocuous was actually harmful if looked at from this angle.
00:26:27
Speaker
And so there's just so much you can do there. And I think that that does help us go into other pieces. Another aspect that you touched on that I really enjoyed the way you brought. I really, really liked the way you positioned it.
00:26:39
Speaker
And I would give it a different like side of the fractal is, you know, it is common for most of us when we go into larger organizations of any type, whether that's the corporate world or, you know, like you said, a spiritual organization or whatever, we do lose a little bit of a part of ourselves.
00:26:53
Speaker
And in some ways, I'm starting to realize over time that one part of it is actually really positive in the sense that in that slight loss, you have an opportunity to kind of like, okay, I'm going to take in from a completely different perspective, a whole series of things. And I'm going to put myself to a certain certain extent, a little bit aside just to be able to take that fully in.
00:27:17
Speaker
What I think is the part that becomes problematic for most people is which... Is that they don't come back out of it at some point, you need to say, okay, now I've taken in this foundation, I have this new thing, whether it's a new skill, a new point of view, a new way of experiencing the world, whatever.
00:27:35
Speaker
And now I'm going to layer myself back into this. Because what stays with me is really me, is really important. And what doesn't, maybe it was just, you know, something else that I needed to work through differently in this life.
00:27:49
Speaker
And so I feel like there's a period of that time and is very useful. We talk about it a lot in Dom and Her, how the first almost 50 years, we're we're now 50, we're in our 51st year.
00:28:02
Speaker
And the first 50 years, to a certain extent, there was a lot, especially in the first... 35 years, almost 40, there was a lot of like, we're going to do certain things to build this new paradigm together.
00:28:14
Speaker
And now there's a very conscious effort to bring everybody's color back in. in a way that really is expansive because now again, you have this like shared foundation that we created and now everybody can bring in their individuality.
00:28:27
Speaker
And this is what the principle that plants for me, at least show me so clearly, which is an ecosystem has to have a shared foundation, whether that's sand, whether that's soil, whether that's snow, whether that's, you know, mountain air, whether that's a clay,
00:28:45
Speaker
We all have a shared foundation upon which all of us have had to adapt a little and give up a little bit of our nature, right? Like the houseplants that are tropical living in my home in Northern Italy have had to give up some of that heat seeking ability that they have because their new shared soil are pots and, you know, you know, soil that comes from a store or from,
00:29:09
Speaker
a farm nearby. And so there's all these pieces. What is important is that the next level of succession as the forest or the ecosystem starts to evolve, you have to then bring in your characteristics.
00:29:23
Speaker
Otherwise, it's just this weird like monocultry type thing, or it doesn't have any richness and it's not going to really evolve and create. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:29:35
Speaker
And so I think that this is something that like we have to look at not so much as like, oh, it's bad. I lost my color or whatever. It's more like, okay, what's most important is this is temporary.
00:29:46
Speaker
Like yeah you can't let that be your solid state. That's, that's not where you are forever. That is a piece that you, you voluntarily put aside while you're absorbing and you're going to bring in into something new and such.
00:30:02
Speaker
Absolutely. And, you know, when we when we think about our pathways and not just in humanness, but even in plant form and throughout even, you know, the animal kingdoms, there is this incredible element that.
00:30:15
Speaker
We have this thing that we have to go through ah state of processing and a a state of integration. And in order for actually for us to go in through that processing state and that integrational state is that we actually need to understand what we are being shown and what we're being what's being revealed to us. and none of this is part of our identity. And we want to tie a lot of these things to our identity. And we want to change the alchemy of our identity. But all it does is it just fortifies another little piece of the puzzle. And we gather another little piece of the puzzle.
00:30:45
Speaker
And we understand a little bit more about us in terms of our strengths, our growth opportunities, and all of these things that are actually being portrayed to us. so When we have these elements that we cannot be in the full embodiment and of ourself, it's also important that we have the awareness to be able to, maybe it maybe be not in that now moment have the awareness, but there is that inner reflection and that self-reflection and that introspection that will naturally happen throughout our pathway where we'll be like, how did that feel for me? What did I learn from that experience? How can I take that and how can I grow from that? And how can I how can i master some of these aspects and how can I nurture myself even more profoundly and love myself even more profoundly? And how do I adapt?
00:31:28
Speaker
The adaptability piece is part of acceptance. How do I adapt to what I've come across in terms of the alchemy that has been presented to me? And how do I actually integrate that into my life? Even in plant kingdoms,
00:31:41
Speaker
And then the wisdom is that sometimes there is adaptability. If weather is not in you know its most refinement states, then they are also adapting. And there's always a lesson in period that we are going through integration and we are going through processing, but there's always growth that happens from the base of that.
00:31:59
Speaker
Yeah, that is so true. And it in I think we're just it goes back to the earlier statement we were talking about, like when you start to really know yourself, that whole know thyself, you realize that you can easily pull pieces ah away farther away from you or closer in.
00:32:18
Speaker
And you can you start to really understand, OK, these are the times when I'm going to adapt. These are the times when I'm just going to accept the way that it is. Or these are the times when instead i'm going to hold fast because that's, you know, also another aspect of it.
00:32:32
Speaker
But all of that requires going into a phase where you really, truly understand your core essence, right? Your self. your true nature, ah as to say it in another way, and really go through that.
00:32:45
Speaker
I'm curious as to, you know, you mentioned earlier your indigenous roots, your closest to
Near-Death Experiences and Indigenous Connection
00:32:51
Speaker
nature. How does that fit into it? And like, where, where what what is the, what's the word? um'm I was about to use the word in Italian. That's not going to work. What is it?
00:33:01
Speaker
yeah or i have There's certain words that they they they just sound more musical in another language. And so sometimes I try to pull them into it. And I'm like, oh, no, wait, no, don't do that. oh where is Where is the source that you pull from in in that perspective?
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah. So for me, you know, coming back to my pathway of my first near-death experience, that was really more of the introspection of was I actually honoring myself and the full embodiment of myself of what I actually came here and set out to do in terms of my sacred mission and and my mission of light. And for me, the answers were no to all of that. And how was I going to hold that? And how was i going to actually embrace that And to be able to witness that and thank and have so much gratitude and profoundness and thankfulness for everything that I had moved through and that I had learned and through where had mastered until I had my second near-death experience. And that brought me more to the emotional concepts, the emotional being in the emotional body.
00:33:58
Speaker
Where was I not allowing myself to be expressive? Where was I holding things within my physical body that was actually an emotion or a memory or an experience or an expert like anything of that nature of those exchanges? Yeah.
00:34:11
Speaker
And for me, it was just this profound moment that then led into my third near-death experience. And then it was more about the physical one. We have to figure out what's going on with this thing that you keep getting close to death. like Should I be worried?
00:34:26
Speaker
People around you be worried? It's been about five years I've been good. so Okay, good. But everything was so profound because every piece of it brought me to a deeper layer within myself, which obviously was contracted for me to be able to go through what I chose if I didn't, you know, take the pathways that I had originally thought of. So I know that everything has its beauty and I know that everything has, you know, what is need for me to actually be the woman that I am today. But every near death experience until my fourth one was more of a spiritual relevation where it was just like this profound place where I was like,
00:35:08
Speaker
really being called by my ancestors and by, you know, my Native American roots, my Métis roots, and really to understand the agricultural component and how we're actually connected to the earth and to the animal kingdom, the plant kingdoms, and all of these things. And how are they interconnected? How are they interwoven? And how do they actually support And how do we support them, right? It's always reciprocal. What is that reciprocal exchange? And that fourth near-death experience really brought me to a pathway where I had a dream for almost four months straight.
00:35:40
Speaker
And one of my ancestors was coming to me in dream state. And she kept chanting me this beautiful song and she was standing in front of these teepees and there was two teepees side by side and there was like this ravine right in front of her and there was land across from it. And that for a very long time, I didn't understand full conceptualization of what she was trying to convey to me. This was something that has been broken down throughout years and, you know, having conversations with my elders and really sitting with the alchemy of the spirit that had come through and,
00:36:12
Speaker
she was calling me to come and heal and to come and heal the land and to be able to come into my healing abilities and to be able, to we all have healing abilities. We can all heal within ourselves, but how do I actually come from place from all the near-death experiences that I have experienced?
00:36:29
Speaker
And how do I actually you know embody and guide and steward people to actually heal themselves in their own multidimensional complexities? And how do they interconnect with everything that is around them and not just what is them or what is within them. So it was just a lot of teachings, a lot of alchemy. It probably would take me an hour to go through the whole pathway of that. But when I sat with the elders and, you know, I learned through my native studies and came back to the agricultural component of our plant medicines and just our plants and like, how do we live and how do we engage and how do we communicate all of these things with the trees, with the earth, all of these pieces, the water, everything was so fundamental for me that,
00:37:13
Speaker
I knew that this was my pathway forward, but that interconnectedness that I was being called to step into that embodiment was a profound experience, a very healing journey that I went into the forest for many, many hours and just cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried and cried because I was reconnecting to my ancestry and to the knowledge and to the wisdom that was being shared with me that I had some resistance to because of just how, you know, our cultural dynamic was perceived. a lot of it, you know, we held a lot of shame in terms of, you know, the generational and the anti-generational and the intergenerational pathways from history
00:37:51
Speaker
historical places that we were told to hold shame about our wisdom and our intelligence and all of these things that we knew about the earth and the interconnectedness of it. And there was that resistance where that wall was just like, like flames came through and just, you know, abolished it where it was just this beautiful engagement of wisdom and exchange and of my own healing and how can I actually affect deeper healing? How can I affect true healing? How can I teach people to sit in the alchemy of that?
00:38:21
Speaker
I'm so i'm I'm just, you can't even imagine how happy I am about this conversation, because I think you're tapping um into certain principles that I think are something that has slowly developed over the course of the years that I've been doing this podcast.
00:38:37
Speaker
You know, obviously, when I started, I thought, oh, I'm going to be working very specifically with like, people who are only working with plants in a certain way.
Reconnecting with Nature
00:38:45
Speaker
And how you know these these uh i want to show these models and these relationships and and such um but over time what i've realized is that the relationship the relationships that are forged when you start to really understand your true nature and the fact that you are a being of nature leads to exactly the types of things that you're talking about.
00:39:09
Speaker
and ah And in a way that is very different, you know, we talk, people talk about the dark night of the soul and all these types of things, which powerful, wonderful. I'm so glad people are having those experiences.
00:39:21
Speaker
But I think when you bring the land into that, when you allow that ancestral connection two your place, which for some is going to be based on your people, for some it's going to be based on the physical location that you're in, all these different aspects, but you bring place into it, then all of a sudden you're having this this experience, this this reconnection that it that is a reconnection to self,
00:39:54
Speaker
but plugged into a greater reconnection to the everything. And I think that that's really the true essence, probably why I needed to go through the plants to get there because not having those types of ancestral roots like you're talking about, but having a different experience of being very disconnected in some ways to the land I've been having ah just recently, I've been going back to, so I'm Cuban of origin and I feel so cheated of my background because we were, my my family's from the exile, right? We were exiled from the country.
00:40:28
Speaker
And so it's like, I feel like I've been cheated from that land. And so I've had to reconnect back to land in completely different ways. And I think that that these pieces that we're talking about are so important for everybody to hear because it's It's not about what exactly is happening in that reconnection.
00:40:47
Speaker
It's about the reconnection itself. Each one of us, as we were talking about truth, is going to go through it in a different way. Some of us are going to cry. Some of us are going to go hug trees. Some of us are going to sit and lie in the grass. Some of us are going to do something.
00:41:00
Speaker
But it's about recognizing that this the thing that you're going through, this conscious awakening that's happening, happens in conjunction with all the other kin homes.
00:41:12
Speaker
It happens in conjunction all these other ways. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry.
00:41:19
Speaker
ah Yeah, absolutely. it does happen in conjunction with all these other ways. And that's the beauty because we are, you know, exactly what you touched on. We are nature. We are not separate from a nature. We are not, there's no separativeness. There's no separation. There's no segregation. We are nature. That is our natural ability. And our natural state is to be in the state of nature when we utilize and we connect into the land and we actually have a relationship with the land.
00:41:48
Speaker
We're actually in a reciprocal exchange where they're helping transmuting a lot of our healing. And it's not just the earth. It's the trees. It's the wind. It's everything that is interconnected. The animal kingdom that lives in the forestry also helps transmute energy. And we also transmute energy for them. It's very reciprocal.
00:42:04
Speaker
So when we when we come into these conceptualizations and these understandings and these understandings of who we really are, it's when we go to a land and we offer it blessings and we give soul retrieval and we all do all these things in terms of our offering of that reciprocal exchange is that we are honoring the space and the land in which we are on. And,
00:42:26
Speaker
When we come into healing grounds or when we're anchored into an aspect of the earth or we feel connectivity to that place of the earth in terms of our origin or our traditions or that we feel called to the land, it's because the land is calling us forward to come and sit with the land so that we can learn wisdom and alchemy of the land and that we can have a reciprocal exchange with the land. It is never just one-sided.
00:42:48
Speaker
And how do we honor that if we're called towards a plant, if we're called towards a tree, if we're called towards, you know, like you said, laying down on the grass and feeling the immersiveness of the electromagnetic field of the earth ruminating through our body and putting us into our harmonic state where we're actually resetting our whole circadian rhythm.
00:43:07
Speaker
And we're actually being in a place that is actually resetting our whole central nervous system and our peripheral nervous system. So we are always in exchange. We just sometimes, if we're not tapped into the frequency of our energy and how we're engaging and how we're communicating, we are already having communication pathways and dialogue and conversation with the plants, with the grass, with the trees.
00:43:29
Speaker
All of these things are naturally happening. And sometimes we're not consciously aware of that they are happening. It's something that is just naturally happening within the energetic fields because our energetic fields are our communication pathways.
00:43:42
Speaker
When we engage in humanness, My energy is already speaking to your energy before we even stepped into this call, right? We're already stepping into those energy fields of connection with respect and integrity because we know that we're coming into collaboration together to have a conversation.
00:43:58
Speaker
and it's this it's no different when it happens with the plant kingdoms, with the earth, any of those elements that we are because we are nature. I, yes, and yes, and yes.
00:44:09
Speaker
And I'm going to add, because somebody might be listening to this in the city and say, oh, but you know, I live in a city. That's still nature. There's still nature everywhere. But besides the fact that everything around you is nature, no matter what,
00:44:22
Speaker
Like, yes, OK, you might have a little bit more polluted nature, but it's still nature. But even so, it's this is not about when we talk about the land. Of course, it would be ideal if each of us, you know, had this barren area, this area.
00:44:36
Speaker
Barren is not the right word. This like vast area that is connected, like the the scene that I have in front of me in the window in front of me. But that doesn't change that when I'm in like a city, whatever, when I go visit my family in Miami, there is nature everywhere. There's the grass, like you said, and around the house.
00:44:54
Speaker
There's the house plants that are living with me. There are the trees that, I mean, the the ah birds that are flying around the sky. There's even the ants that are trying to get into my kitchen because there are always ants trying to get into the kitchen or the spiders that you keep trying to kill because you're like, ah, can't have the spiders. Like all of this is nature. So one is if you still can't feel it in your home, your apartment or whatever, go to a local park, go sit or go to a street tree and don't be, you know, look, all of us have done this where we've been walking down a street that looks like a city street and just sit there and like hug a plant a tree or sit with the tree and people are like, what are you doing?
00:45:34
Speaker
I was once um in a small little park in Shepherd's Bush in London. um And I was walking around doing an orienting of the trees and really communing with these beautiful London planes that were there. It's gorgeous. And this like this older gentleman was sitting on a park bench.
00:45:53
Speaker
And as I walked by him, he looked at me and he goes, may I ask you what you're doing? And I was like, oh, I'm orienting and connecting into the trees. Orienting of the trees is a project that we do here in Dominar. But I'm like, I'm connecting with these beautiful beings. And he's like, it's quite lovely. And I was like, thank you.
00:46:11
Speaker
And, you know, he's yeah yeah people appreciate because they feel what it is. It was just a small little park in the middle of a very busy city. And he was sitting on his park bench. So he was getting it in that way.
00:46:23
Speaker
i was getting it by literally going and touching the trees around there. Other people were getting it by like lying on the grass there. It's everywhere. And we can connect back to that essence that you were talking about, no matter where you are.
00:46:37
Speaker
Absolutely. And you know the beautiful thing is a lot of times we have some oversight with is that even the homes that we are within are made from are all made from
Nature in Urban Life
00:46:47
Speaker
Mother Earth. And it wouldn't be in in creational existence of the earth if it wasn't made from the earth. And it still carries soul memory. it still carries that resonance of nature. And how can we cultivate our space if we need a little bit more of you know, those aspects of touch points that we can feel a little bit more immersed into nature on the maybe a heavier day or a lighter day where we just want to feel embodied by it. And
00:47:11
Speaker
you know, I love that you're saying about, you know, walking in the park and, you know, having commune with the trees, because even when I go for walks, or if I go on, you know, hiking trail, where I just really want to be surrounded and enveloped into nature.
00:47:24
Speaker
For me, it's like, if I see a tree that isn't doing well, how can I offer it healing? How can I how can I speak to it? How can I be able to offer something? And how can I go back and continuously ensure that this that this tree can actually be a very healthy growing tree? So It just depends on how you engage with it, right? And someone, again, coming back to those inner truth pieces is that someone else's perception and perspective of how they're absorbing the energy fields and the communication pathways of nature, they could be sitting on a park bench or they can actually be doing you know sacred ceremony around the tree or they could be laying by the tree. It just is really dependent on whoever is
00:48:05
Speaker
in that alignment where they actually feel the congruency, where they're feeling the replenishment, the regeneration and the restoration because they are a part of that essence. Yeah. And it's so important to keep just reminding people, like right now I'm sitting, i have a beautiful ah oak table in front. I think it's oak.
00:48:25
Speaker
Don't quote me on that, which is a matching set to the this credenza behind me for those that are watching the video. My feet are on the ground. I'm barefoot because I tend to be barefoot all the time. And like my flooring...
00:48:37
Speaker
My flooring is marble. And so whenever I feel disconnected, besides all of the plant friends that I have around me and out the windows and on the balcony and such, but even so, sometimes it's as easy as sitting down and like taking a minute and taking a breath and feeling that you know, marble underneath my feet or tiles are often made of, you know, clay. And that is natural. Like we want to demonize everything.
00:49:06
Speaker
But iron is still comes from the earth, like the bamboo cup holder that you might have, like whatever it might be. What's most important is for us to almost understand feed into that essence that that that whatever it is, even when we're talking about our cell phone, yes, it has all these other principles that are, but there is rare minerals in there, there's all kinds of different aspects.
00:49:31
Speaker
And so it really becomes a shift in mindset that says, my just the same as we sometimes say, you know, your tribe because creates your vibe, you know, when you're around the right people, you, you resonate, it's the same thing with your objects around you, like,
00:49:45
Speaker
If you would take a second and realize that everything comes from a series of base materials that were, that are part of the, that I'm part of the earth, it means that just holding this mug, the tea that's inside of it and the beautiful plants that gave their lives, all of the different, like everything that was for the ceramics that was.
00:50:07
Speaker
And if I do that and I take that second, I can, like you said, activate that on both ends. I can absolutely then give it out, pull it in go get out and have this relationship back and forth.
00:50:19
Speaker
Absolutely. And that's the respect and the integral piece of our connection points. And, you know, it's not about discarding things and treating things, you know, terribly. It's about everything in our space has purpose. Everything in our space has matter and it's all interconnected. And how do we actually honor that?
00:50:36
Speaker
If I am going to give something back to the earth and I no longer have a use for it, then I'm actually in a place that I'm deeply honoring the purpose that it did serve. And all of these things come into play. So it's really important that we're always, when we're having those exchanges, that we come back to that remembrance that everything that is around us, that is tactile, that is physical, that we can touch, had to have come to the from the earth at one point in time or wouldn't be in creational existence of the now.
00:51:02
Speaker
Right, right. Yeah. And it goes to it's that whole don't demonize everything because it doesn't serve you. And if you put it to good use, then I mean, nobody is saying that you should go off and specifically look for plastics because because there's other principles.
00:51:18
Speaker
I think we confuse very much conversations where when we try to like demonize certain materials and things like that. That is because the extraction process creates other kinds of issues. That is because there's a pollution process in all of that.
00:51:34
Speaker
And that is all true. Like again, going back to the fractal of truth, all that is true. But once it's in your house, Then at a minimum, bring it into that same resonance. Remember the origin of you know where all of those those ingredients or those um those materials came from.
00:51:54
Speaker
And at least give that dignity back, right? You say, okay, well, I you showed up in my house for whatever reason, you're made out of plastic, which was of obviously oil originally, or you're made out of this or that.
00:52:07
Speaker
I tried my best to make sure that you stayed in the earth because I feel like it's better for you to have been in the earth. But now that you're no longer in the earth and you're here and I'm going to you know try to create the best relationship because the best the best the way I treat you is a reflection of myself because we're both beings of nature. Absolutely.
00:52:25
Speaker
Absolutely. And that's the process, right? it's not It's not the purpose of the process. And it's coming back to that. We're both beings of nature and how, you know, this is a valuable thing that I always teach my children. You teach, like you, you know, treat everything with respect and with dignity and we don't take anything for granted. And that means, you know, people are items that we have in the home.
00:52:48
Speaker
everything that is around them, the plant medicine, like everything, like animals, even spiders, like you asked my kids are like, mom won't let you kill that. Like, you know, like you want save it put it outside or mom's not going to be happy, you know? So unless it's like a mosquito that's trying to bite them. i'm like, okay, well that's like, that's nature, right? If if something's going to attack you and naturally you're going to defend yourself, but you don't just go and kill things for the sake of killing things. And Those are valuable things that I teach them because I think it's important that they understand that that spider didn't ask to be in our home. That spider didn't know that it was making its way here. So how can we bring it to a place where it can still survive? And should nature be nature and something happens?
00:53:30
Speaker
That is not our responsibility. And that's not for us to hold. All we can do is honor the life that that it is in this now moment. you know So it comes back to those fundamental teachings of exactly what we're touching on right now.
Respect for All Life Forms
00:53:44
Speaker
I love that because I think that that's really another huge element that we of consciousness, right? Being conscious has so many, obviously, facets to it. But one of those facets, it's the realization that when you realize that I am a being of nature, i have also a role,
00:53:59
Speaker
Right. I, as a human, have a role in the ecosystems in which we play. And how do I honor all of this life? How do I ensure that I'm doing things that are about that web of life? That doesn't mean thou shalt never kill. Actually, thou shalt not kill is a terrible tenet because there are as as a being of nature, there are things I'm supposed to kill. Right. I am supposed to.
00:54:21
Speaker
there It is OK for me to kill you know, a lettuce in order to eat that lettuce with harmony with, you know, with respect, and that ensures a cycle of life that continues.
00:54:32
Speaker
I have to just be part of that. And so I find that it's really important for us to constantly just remind ourselves, okay, if I am a being of nature, and everything around me is being of nature, howard how do I want to be treated? And then how do I treat everything?
00:54:47
Speaker
And for what purpose? And for what purpose best purpose? And how do I show gratitude? Like if we're going to take a life to, you know, ingest a life, if that is the process, like animal or whatever that might be, or vegetarian, doesn't matter. Life is a life, right? A being is a being, a soul is a soul.
00:55:02
Speaker
So if I'm going to take that, I'm going to embody that, then how am I going to show gratitude for that? And How do I say thank you for giving your life so that I can continue to live, right? So these are the fundamental pieces. It's living with respect and with integrity and with that knowingness. And it's it's an honoring system. When you take a life, if we go hunting, you know, a lot of our Native American tribes, we hunt for our food. And If we're going to be in a place that we're hunting, then we have to honor the entire being and of what we've taken and how do we actually come back to a place of restoration also? And how do we embody that whole the whole being, the fur, everything? How do we take the whole alchemy so that that life wasn't wasted?
00:55:45
Speaker
Absolutely. and I think that these are the other elements that are so important. It's that that respect. and And I think that that's the beautiful part of if anybody has the opportunity to ever be and spend some time on a on a farm or in that type of environment, you know, true hunters, true, true hunters use everything like I mean, and and because they're like,
00:56:08
Speaker
this being gave their life for me, I'm going to ensure that I respect this being enough to use every single aspect from, you know, what's within the bones to, you know, the eyes to everything, if it can't be eaten, or it can't be used, like you said, as a hide or a glue or a this or a that. And it's incredible.
00:56:29
Speaker
Exactly. and Including in some cases, the blood. I mean, there's everything. There's so many pieces. And if not, like you said, you give it back to the earth, you give it to the other critters that maybe you now in killing you leave a piece that is for other beings that say, hey, great, free food. I don't have to go and kill that myself today. Cycle of life.
00:56:49
Speaker
Cycle of life. It's so beautiful. And I'm so glad you said it, which is a being is a being is a being, right? So you're going to kill a life, whether you're it's your, you know, like said, your lettuce or the carrots or anything. They're all beings that are alive and that are giving of themselves in that aspect.
00:57:06
Speaker
So beautiful. So as we start to wrap things up here, although um i have a feeling as usual, we can just sit here and like yap for hours, which I love. And so as we start to wrap up, are there any like, I guess,
00:57:19
Speaker
What i don't even know the right question to ask, because I kind of am afraid that I would ask it and it would open up another one and we'll be here another hour, which I don't necessarily mind. um But I'm so curious as to what would be like kind of based on everything we've just talked about, what would be some of the final like principles or.
00:57:38
Speaker
mean that's not the right word. What's the message you want to leave people with? Because you do some really incredible incredible things. And I just want to make sure that people get a good understanding of, you know, everything you've just talked about is the philosophy that you then bring and help people embody in and of themselves.
00:57:54
Speaker
How, where do they get in touch with you? How do they learn more about what you do? All those types of things. Absolutely. So I'm a little bit of a rare one. I don't have any social media or anything of that nature. Everything is done through my website um at theilluminationretreat.com. We're going to be doing a huge overhaul. I'm being called to to do something new. But um right now, theilluminationretreat.com, and we have so much information on there. And through our retreats, like if we're going to retreats because we are being called by the land, i don't ever make a decision that I haven't sat with and that I haven't feel called to. so
00:58:30
Speaker
someone that is looking for really deep self-exploration and self-interstanding and understanding of themselves, these are perfect opportunities to come back into that interconnectedness of one, right? Of not just within themselves, but within all that is around them and to be able to see life and to have that perception of life, their own perception, their own perspective of life that feels in the congruency
Living with Integrity and Light
00:58:51
Speaker
of them. and for me, it's the message that we are all light, we are all love, we are all matter, and we are all purposeful. And how do we live our life knowing that and how do we live our life in the integrity of that for ourselves and teach the generations that are even in the current generations, but the generations that are in the upbringing of, you know, sustaining the earth and sustaining the planet and sustaining themselves as their own conscious leaders, as they are developing and enveloping within themselves.
00:59:22
Speaker
I love it. I love it so much. Although I am, I did go look when I was looking at your website, which of course we're going to include into the show notes, but I was looking and I was like, oh my goodness, she doesn't have social media.
00:59:34
Speaker
How does she do it? How does she do it? All client referrals. I've never really had a need. So I just, I just personally, like my own personal belief system is I just don't want to be on a platform that devalues another human being. And I'm finding it very hard on those platforms. So for me, it's just for my own congruency of myself, it's important that I don't have any energetic connections to to those things. I really do admire that. That was the reason why I created the Naturally Conscious Community on a different platform. And I did a lot of research into the platform. It's on a Mighty Networks.
01:00:10
Speaker
which is a ah ah female owned company with like really high community standards and ethics and it's private. So like each one of the mighty networks, like each one of ours are completely isolated pieces because as you said, i mean, I've been on social media since the very beginning. So it's like this constant discussion this that you just mentioned.
01:00:34
Speaker
But I did know that I did not want like a Facebook group with like hundreds of thousands of people on it and such. I wanted a place where we could feel safe, where everything was like ours, where we can make decisions, where we can control it, where there's no like advertising in general, of like somebody else or anything like that. I wanted a place that was for us to explore because these topics, as we just touched on, are hard.
01:01:01
Speaker
Like they change the paradigm. We have... that That understanding and that inner standing, as you've said, is something that develops over time and you're going to make mistakes and you're going to have confusion and you're not going to understand it. Oh, my goodness, I just bought plastic. What do I do? or oh, I just had a conversation with a plant in the middle of this like airport and i was I wasn't sure what to do. Like, how do I deal with this? Or, you know, there's all these kinds of conversations and we want to be able to have those in a safe space. And so the naturally conscious community was really created for that. And that's why it's on its own platform in a completely different way.
01:01:35
Speaker
Yeah, I love that. And I would do something very similar to that. And it's just been, I've just been very fortunate that it's just been word of mouth for, you know, my business practice. But like, those are the platforms where we're not being inundated with somebody else's agendas, right? And it's really important that those topics that you actually have the safety and the security and the stability and the comfortability to be able to share in those spaces without judgment, without perception, without perspective, and just to actually be heard and to be witness.
01:02:07
Speaker
And that is such a beautiful space that you're cultivating and the dynamic cultural aspect of that is so beautiful and so empowering that people actually have that place to be within themselves in their fullest self and their fullest expression. And that is a blessing.
01:02:23
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. and it's so And it's so important. We need that safety in this unpredictable world that we live in. We need this. Roxanne, this has been like a fantastic conversation. I am so grateful for you. Of course, I will include everything, you know, your website into the show notes and tell people about what it is that you do.
01:02:43
Speaker
And for those of you that are listening, please go check it out if you're looking for a retreat. You've just found you know the place to go for that. And if you're looking for a space where you can have these types of conversations, where we can explore them across many many different mediums,
01:02:58
Speaker
speaking and drawing and writing and, you know, reading and all kinds of different things, please come into the Naturally Conscious community. We would really love to have you. And if you want to work one-on-one to go deeper into this way of being in your own life, I'm always available. Feel free to contact me. Everything you need is in the show notes.
01:03:18
Speaker
But for now, remember, resist the urge to hold back your emerging green brilliance. That's it for this episode. Bye. Thanks for tuning in to this episode of Reconnect with Plant Wisdom.
01:03:30
Speaker
To continue these conversations, join us in the Naturally Conscious Community, your premier online ecosystem for plant reawakening and accelerated evolution and co-creation with other kin.
01:03:41
Speaker
Here, you'll find expansive discussions, interactive courses, live events, and supportive group programs like the Plant Wisdom Book Club and the Sprouts Writing and Creativity Group. Connect with like-minded individuals collaborating with plants to integrate these insights into life. Intro and outro music by Steve Shuley and Poinsettia from the singing Life of Plants.
01:04:02
Speaker
That's it for me, Tigria Gardenia, and my plant collaborators. Until next time, remember, resist the urge to hold back your emerging green brilliance. I'm out. Bye.