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Another one bites the dust? Sesko happenings?
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Kev, Nic & Jo discuss the possibility of missing out on another striker target. The team also discuss why this keeps happening and if it's fixable.
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Introduction and Familiar Faces
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Jo
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Thank
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well
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Jo
me
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Welcome to the Daily Newcastle podcast. ah Again, um I think my last three episodes have been with the same two guests, which is obviously Nick and Joe, and every single time we start to record, we end up just laughing at absolute rubbish. So, yes, I'm joined by Nick and Joe. Welcome to the Daily Newcastle podcast.
Football Transfers Talk
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I should really call it Daily Newcastle Raw, because we're not going in with any kind of talking and points or any prep The news at the minute, ah you guys will listen to this it'll probably still be news, is Sesco, there's a bid from Man United, it's a little bit lower than ours and it's now looking like you might be favouring Man U.
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Jo
Thank you.
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I say now, but if you remember girls, the last time we were on, when we were speaking, it was he was favouring Man U all the way back then before any bids
Raw and Unedited Podcast Style
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were put in. So actually, but the story hasn't really changed than we made a bid first.
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and But anyway, since it is a raw, kind of going to be an unedited version of this of this kind of style, see if people like it. I'm going to go to Joe first because Joe's the
Joe's Emotional Reaction to Transfers
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emotional reactor.
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We've discovered that. This is like part three of our, we've got like a three-part monologue, like therapy in number one, positivity in number two, and this one's just going to be raw.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Therapy
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So Joe, how are you feeling?
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Jo
roll
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Sesco, is he going to come? Is he not going arrive on Tyneside? Where's he going?
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Will he stay or will he go now
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What's happening, Joe?
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Jo
Jesus Christ, man.
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How do feel I'm considering literally putting him the the pod,
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Jo
Well, considering just literally a couple of minutes before came on the pod, we're hearing news that we put in this improved bid, which was like more than Leipzig even wanted. Man U have come in now, which is what we've just heard, literally a couple of million less.
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Jo
Apparently he favours Man Now he's going to go to Man I mean, this summer is just mint on all levels. There's my raw emotion. i am absolutely dog-ass tired of this summer.
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Jo
And that's putting it so mildly I'd have to stop myself there.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
um um
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Jo
Yeah, man, it's just... la Don't swear. It's frustrating, man. Take
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it was wrote and edited. I might have to edit that.
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over.
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Anyway, Jo's clearly given the reaction I wanted in
Nick's Perspective on Player Choices
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terms of emotion. Nick was singing along while she was doing it, so i don't know if Nick's in a happier mood, but what do you think of Nick?
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
It's just such a joke! um
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Jo
but
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, I've got no... what i've put on Twitter this afternoon, actually, and it's got quite a bit of a reaction, but I don't understand why a player would be choosing currently Manchester United over us. I don't get it.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't get
Frustrations of Losing Players Despite High Bids
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
it. um i don't care if it's about the money either. because um' Well, obviously I do care if it's about the money, but our bid is higher.
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I think we would match for money now. I think the owners are desperate to get that stuff.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
ah bid is technically higher.
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Yeah.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Five million higher, I think, in in the grand scheme of things. I mean, OK, he'll probably argue was not that much difference. But I'm like, well, it's different to everyone else that bids higher. um So I don't understand it. I'm a little bit bored and a bit sick of Newcastle constantly being used as like a ah what what's the right word here?
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
I don't know. bit of clout, maybe. I don't know.
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Thank
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
It's probably not the right word at all, but I'm just a bit bored of it. It's a story of every summer for the last maybe a year or two. ah potentially Newcastle are going to get this player. Haha, no joking. Liverpool, Man United, whoever else has come and got him.
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Just a little bit annoying. I'm bit frustrated. And ah know people keep saying, well, if they're going to choose that club over us, we don't want them anyway. But we're kind of at a point now where we're a little bit desperate.
Are Newcastle's Ambitions Too High?
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
So, yeah.
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Jo
but
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um Yeah, I kind of agree with but but kind of both sides, but I'm less agitated about it. I don't know why, again, it's always me bringing the horrible positivity, which people hate to hear. But for me, it's it is frustrating because I would love Cesc at Newcastle. Of course I would, but a little bit what Nick said at the end, which if he just' want to be here, then get gone.
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and And the second part is the next strike that we go for, there's even less clubs to come in for him. So we might actually get one eventually. Yeah.
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Jo
yeah
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There's lots happening. I think personally, I'll get your opinion on this. Are we not trying to run before we can walk with this whole rival and players like Cesco and Pedro and Mbwemo? Are we not going too big, too fast? Like, this is only our second Champions campaign coming up in...
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20 odd years. and Other teams are going to pick. I know my United's a bit of a weird one because they finished 16, but teams like Chelsea, who we've lost out to, Liverpool, who we lost out to, they are going to rather join
Strategy: Lesser-Known vs. Top Players
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players like that. We lost out to Hoyssen to Real Madrid. We were linked with him, I remember.
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Jo
Thank you.
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So should we go for a lower calibre of play? And what I mean by that is someone like Amuniz from Fulham or even Ivan Nielsen from Bournemouth. Are these the type of players we should be targeting? We're probably definitely going to get them.
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But we are. Are we trying to run before we can walk? Are we going for the huge name players? Eketiki was in demand. Sesco's been in demand for years, by the way. um This isn't the first time Sesco's been linked to Premier League move.
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Should we be a little bit more less ambitious? I know we want ambition and we want to see Newcastle be up there losing out the players to Real Madrid. We lost out Real Madrid, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U.
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And I think that's it, isn't it?
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Jo
Thank you.
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I think so far I might have forgot somebody, but we've lost out of big, big teams.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Well, Trafford's gone to Manzee.
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Trafford Man City year so we're losing out to the teams who have been in Champions League regularly for a long time other than maybe Man U but let's face it Man U are the biggest club in England Should we be a little bit more realistic, Joe, is what I'm trying to say. Should we go for the likes of Rodrigo Munez from Fulham?
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um Should we try and get players like that rather than these huge name players with this? Because when you remember we signed Isaac, he wasn't a huge name player. We turned him into that and that's why that one worked. Same with Tonali.
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He had a reputation, but we turned him into that. And Bruno was relatively unheard of until he came to us.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Thank you.
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So are we now kind of trying to be too big for our boots, do you think? Or oh we just Am I just talking a whole lot of rubbish?
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Jo
No, no, I'm i'm not going to call you out because you're talking a little bit of sense. ah extreme um I got to give you something.
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and A little bit.
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Jo
um No, but in all seriousness, I absolutely see where you're coming from. And
Promises vs. Expectations in Football
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Jo
yes, I'm not saying we shouldn't go for players like Munez, by the way. um Running before a walk is frustrating one for me because all we've ever had is talk of progression and getting better and building squads and this is the owners talking by the way, so it's not even like it's us as a fan because people are like, oh Newcastle fans are so deluded to think they can just have who they want.
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Jo
Well no, actually, what we've probably bought into a bit too much is how much our owners have hyped up, how big they're going to build us and how great they're going to make us. And me being, as you say, the over-emotional fan, I've Belford, who can I think? I'm not going to lie.
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um But yeah, I mean, yes and no is my kind of argument with that one. Because some players I think we should have went in four, some we didn't stand a chance. And no, I do not think we can compete with the likes of Liverpool.
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So don't worry. I'm not that kind of deluded, as some will call us. um But to be losing out to Man U over Sesco, and yes, all right, Man U are the biggest club in England.
Why Choose Man United Over Newcastle?
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Jo
Yeah.
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They all. I know we'll be shooting them in, but we are the biggest in England.
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Jo
and But yeah, it's just like what we can offer in our project moving forward Maybe Manu are selling them something different Maybe Manu are paying them more Or maybe Manu are fully living on their name, which a lot of people do So i don't know what it is We'll never know, because again, it's just all of us fans speculating And there'll be other fans speculating against us as well So yeah, so i'm I'm just right on the fence with what you've just said I'll be honest, its because it's a yes and no answer
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What I mean is with Man United is I get they didn't perform as well as us but their legacy is is absolutely the players who have played for them and and an opportunity to go there.
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Jo
um don't want to get that
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can understand why any player not not just Cesc might want to go there.
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Jo
Mm-hmm.
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and But um'm I'm going to come to Nick as well but I'm just going to throw in but The players, like when I'm talking about Munez, this could be like anybody. This could be Jack Hinslowood from Brighton. This could be players like that who fans aren't going to be massively happy about. What were in the Champions What were signing Rodrigo Munez for to replace alex Alexander? He's like, well, because actually we don't have the legacy Man United and Liverpool have and we don't have the success Man City-Chelsea have in the last 10 years. So that's the reason why. How do you feel about it, Nick? are we Are we being a little bit too ambitious here or not?
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
ah My question back to that is why shouldn't we be ambitious?
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Because we haven't got the legacy and the success of the other clubs who are going in for these players, have we?
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Jo
the
Legacy and Success: Man United vs. Newcastle
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Let's be honest.
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Jo
We'll never get it done.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
up
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let it We got the legacy.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
No, I would disagree partly with your statement. We haven't got the success, which I completely agree with.
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We
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Okay, let me just...
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haven't got the legacy.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
i Okay, i ah I agree with your statement of we haven't got the success. Obviously, we haven't got the success. We know that as you know lifelong Newcastle fans.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
But as a club, i think we've got... I, you know, i think we've got a lot to offer and a lot of history and a lot and people who get it, get it. um And I'm talking about players, players who get it, get it. You know, you have players from opposition teams talk about how much of a, you know, like a hostile place it is to play because of the passion and the energy and how much the team loved the team and, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
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Jo
I
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Yeah.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
So I do disagree your statement in a fact of we haven't got the legacy, maybe the legacy you're talking about. Okay. Yes, we haven't, but we have our own. And I think we've got, I've got like our own history and, you know, our own positives. So,
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
To me, itch I will never, and you you guys are going to disagree, but i mean maybe it's just because I just don't like them.
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Jo
ah
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
But i at this current moment in time, I can understand
Strategies for Securing Big Signings
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
what losing out to players such as Liverpool and Man City, I guess, um at the moment, obviously until they get found guilty.
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Jo
Thank you.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
um so i understand So I can understand that. I can understand that. But I'm even going to chuck Chelsea in the same bucket as Man United. They had a better season than Man United, but I will not understand why players are choosing them teams over the likes of us.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Because you're signing up for Chelsea on about 15-year flipping contract because they've got the money splash in it and that's how they're getting away of bending the rules.
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Mm.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
You're inevitably signing your career away because you're going to sit on the bench. So don't get that. Man United, they can chuck all the money they want at the players, but they are not the club that they once were. And i don't that is going to take years and years of rebuilding.
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Jo
Thank you.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
They're aware of that. They know that. um ah So to answer your question, mate, I don't understand why we shouldn't be going for the bigger players. That's not me disagreeing in the fact that, you know, like the players that you mentioned, we can go for them, but we obviously don't want them. and the team Whoever is that's going off, obviously for the transfers and the players, they obviously are not looking at these players for a reason. And that's okay
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i think I think we are being ambitious, which is good, but like ah Chelsea, again, the finished above us last season. That was only three points, but... They were fourth and we were fifth. So again, if you are Pedro or somebody like that and you're looking at, well, Chelsea finished above Newcastle.
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History-wise, Chelsea have got Newcastle. Legacy-wise, Chelsea have got Newcastle. And I think it's just a bit of realism needed. I think i love that we're being ambitious. i was so excited about the thought of Etiqui. I'm so excited about the thought of Cesc.
Fan Expectations vs. Club Strategies
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It could still happen. I'm not completely ruling out.
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I'm really excited at these players, but I just think... If we want players in the door, we're going have to disappoint fans in a different way. Shock horror. And that is get the case of people like Muniz or people like, I don't Hinchel.
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Well, I'm just chucking them out there because it's all I can think of where I would be really happy with them two players personally.
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Jo
Okay.
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But I don't think Newcastle fans in the Champions League for the second time in 20 years will be thinking, we're in Champions League, who we're going to sign? Rodrigo Muniz and it'll be like that's a bit flat whereas I think the club are trying to have that ambition which I think is brilliant but I just think we've got to maybe start looking at the next level down m we are going to go to an advert because we're almost halfway through and in the second half I'm going to try and compare who we're going with now to kind of what Manchester City did and I think with Manchester City's kind of progression, we're in the likes of Elano and Martin Petrov phase, where we've had the Brunos and Gordons, who were necessarily not really wanted by the big, big clubs.
Learning from Manchester City's Strategies
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How do we do what Man City do in terms of getting likes of Aguero? He would be our sesgo, wouldn't he? So we're going to talk about that in the second part after a very, very quick advert.
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Jo
So
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Thank
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Lovely stuff. so like I say, we're going to look into kind of where we're at in terms of who we should be targeting and what we should be doing. And we might not be being too ambitious. I might be talking in a whole load of rubbish and we should be going for these players and rivaling with teams with a greater a legacy and a greater success historically.
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Jo
Thank
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Right, Man City, for a long time, had players like Richard Dunn, assigned players like Alano, who was very good, scored a world-y free kit against Newcastle. Martin Petrov, who was a very good Premier League winger, but wasn't kind of at the level of a David Silvers, who we ended up with eventually.
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So to win that league title, they had players like Balotelli, Aguero came in out of nowhere. Well, after they go Madrid, he had a reputation, but it was a big signing at the time. That's where we are now. We now need that big signing. So how do we get it over the line?
Risks and Rewards in Player Signings
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We've obviously tried a lot this summer.
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Every Newcastle fan's frustrated. and
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Thank you.
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How do we do it? Do we start? I think there's two options, but I'm going to come to you guys and give you complete freedom on on how you think we get or secure a huge name signing. i mean An option is you go for someone like, and he's out again, someone like a Samu from Porto, who is known, there's awareness of him, but he's a gamble to other clubs.
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Samu almost signed for Chelsea two years ago, but they pulled out because they weren't 100% sure on if he had what it took to be a £50 million signing. So do we go for players like that, gamble and let Eddie get the best out of him?
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Or do we go down the route of signing, proving Premier League players, like I mentioned, Munez or Ivan Ilsen from Bournemouth, and just letting them thrive in the Premier League?
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Jo
Thank
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Another one with Justin Klibert was linked before the end of last season.
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Jo
you.
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That's gone away now when our kind of ambition has went from Justin Klibert, who I think would be a good signing, and not many other big, big clubs would rival us for him, and he would come to us to go in for likes of Sesco, who is classed as the next Haaland or the next big name.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
Thank
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So, How do we do it then? Let's try and offer some sort of... Do we approach Golden Gem? Do we go abroad? Do we go Europe? Do we go Italy? Do we stay in England? Do we bring the academy through?
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Do we do what Barcelona did and pump lots of money into kind of their youth set up and just wait three or four years? Do Newcastle fans have the patience for that? Probably not.
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Jo
Thank you.
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and So let's see where we're going. going to go to first because it looks like the brain's working and then I'm going to see if Nick's got any genius ideas.
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Jo
and
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I think academy would be a great route, but it's tough.
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Jo
Well oddly enough I was going to say like ah I was watching so something earlier on about the fact that we are building for the future and we have brought a lot of young talented people in and to be fair that's what we keep seeing don't we when you see people social media going oh wonderful another 17 year old or whatever but we have to remember that is building for the future and we could have a really really bright future obviously it's yet to be seen we don't know how these players are going to develop it's That in itself is risky, I suppose, because again, any of these players could turn out be absolute gems or they could turn out be absolute flops and we end up you know selling them on for a figure of God knows what.
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yeah
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Jo
and I'll be honest, i've I've had myself a little couple of minutes settled down while you've been chatting because I've had my little moan, haven't I? and
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Go back to Cisco if you want, if you want to get a sensible job but in rather than emotional.
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Jo
No, no, it' it it it's probably best, Kev, that we don't. and and So, no, in reality, i don't think the frustration is coming from the fact that we're losing out on big-name players over and over again.
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Jo
I think it's more the frustration that we are now losing more players than we're bringing in, full stop. And I think this is where this summer is coming from. um We have already lost more players than we've brought in. That's just as simple as that.
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Jo
If we then lose Izak, no matter how we feel about him, obviously we don't feel very much positivity about him, but the point is...
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I do.
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Jo
Not only, well, shut up you because we're not talking about you anymore.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
course you
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Jo
Nick, I'm talking to you. and So what i'm saying is we're not feeling very positive about obviously the Ezek situation naturally. But again, go back the point is we're losing, we're losing our talent. So it's not even that we're gaining big names.
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Jo
We're not even retaining the damn talent that we've got, that we've built, that you even said we turned into something, Ezek, for example, or Tenali. I know we're not losing Tenali, by the way. But the point is, if we're not even going to retain the ones that we've already brought in and developed,
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Jo
That's where the frustration stemmed from, I'm not going to lie.
Summer Transfer Window Challenges
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Jo
I think the fact that we're not bringing anyone in on top of this, it's just feeding it and adding to it.
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so
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Jo
And I don't think anyone can look at our summer and think it's been anything other than a mess. I mean, look at the way we're talked about on TalkSport. I agree with them. I hate agreeing with a lot of them idiots, but never mind. um The way Shira was saying, it has it's been an absolute disaster.
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Jo
I feel so sorry for Heilman. I really do. i just I just think this summer has been exactly the opposite of what he expected as well. So... Even though I promised I wasn't going a tangent, I've just done it. So that's my kind of answer to that one.
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Fair play.
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Jo
I'll smile at the end.
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How do we fix it?
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Jo
think No,
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Well, you're right, we have missed out on players.
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
We can't.
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think it has been tough, but there has to be a way to compete.
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Jo
we're not.
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There has to be. we We have to find a way. We can't just give up. and
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Jo
no not
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either lower our ambitions and go for the likes of Fulham strikers, no disrespect to Fulham, or Palace's strikers. We start off with Larson from Wolves. We start going for them type of players who the fans are going to probably moan about until they bang loads of goals in any way.
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Or we keep being ambitious and find a way to just completely, but don't know, take the hit with PSR. We start paying players 300 grand a week. ah have no idea what the right answer is. There's options. with definitely options and the club will be aware of that. And you're right, I will be disappointed. But I think the club, we're getting a hard time and I can argue rightly so. I think anybody could argue rightly so. But they have tried. It's not like we've just sat there and thought, well, we're not going to go for him. We're not going to go for him. We can't bring him in because he's not the name we want.
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We're not going to make, we've made two club, record bids for two different players. We're just, when we haven't got, what is it, the legacy of a competition, spoke about in part one. But Nick, how do we fix it? Do we just break PSR rules? Do we start lowering our standards?
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
What's happening? Come on, Nick, blow us away.
00:18:24
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Well, everyone else gets away with it. So why can't we? Because you know what's going to happen.
00:18:27
Jo
Yeah.
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Nick?
00:18:28
Nicola Pringle-Adams
But the thing is, I go back on that word because we'll be the first club that does it and then we'll get relegated by about five leagues and we'll end up in Conference League one or something.
00:18:30
Jo
True.
00:18:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
maybe
00:18:36
Jo
two
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Nicola Pringle-Adams
it The thing is, you're sitting there saying, oh, do we just have less ambition and go for players in the Premier League and English?
Impact of Buyback Clauses and Premier League Rules
00:18:45
Nicola Pringle-Adams
We've done it. We've done that. We actually have bidded for English. We've bidded for James Trafford. minute Man City come in. See you later. ah And I know you're going to sit there and say he's a popular name. He's a popular name, but ironically, we were the only one that was linked with him. So until Man City were like, ha ha, last day, we're going to bid.
00:18:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It tie back call, wasn't it?
00:18:59
Nicola Pringle-Adams
So we lost him.
00:19:00
Jo
Thank
00:19:01
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, don't care. Actually, don't care. Like, it's just, it's other clubs taking the...
00:19:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
it has a
00:19:06
Nicola Pringle-Adams
yeah
00:19:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's relevant though. The buyback clause is relevant. That's why we lost out there.
00:19:09
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah, I know.
00:19:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not that the club didn't try. Man City had a buyback clause. We got them for cheaper. Fair play. Clever business by Man City. If we were doing that with a player, we let go from our academy, we'd be sat here laughing. So I know it's frustrating for Newcastle, but it's very relevant in terms of, well, it was a buyback clause why he went to Man City.
00:19:28
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I'm not going to win this argument, am I?
00:19:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
He can try.
00:19:32
Jo
Nicky's too positive for us as a problem right now.
00:19:32
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah. Just doesn't ever agree with me.
00:19:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah just,
00:19:35
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Ever.
00:19:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
what yeah
00:19:36
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I'm just joking. and
00:19:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I do agree with Nick a lot, actually, but just not on the pod.
00:19:40
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Never. Never on the pod. um You know, we you know i knowly this is a really poor example because I kind of get it, but Mark Gahey, that whole...
00:19:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
queen
00:19:50
Nicola Pringle-Adams
debacle last summer and apparently we're linked him again it's like how long is it going to go on for it's just so boring and then we're going for these abroad players in Europe they don't want us so the problem for me stems a lot higher than the club it stems it does stem to i think the Premier League's rules are true I'm trying really hard not to swear i am trying my absolute hardest but the Premier League rules we we can we can have
00:20:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, you're right about that. may have been We've been done with that.
00:20:15
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Look at last season. We can have a great season last season, you know, finishing a Champions League spot, win a um and a trophy and all that. at I'm sorry, the Premier League does not suit clubs like Newcastle and, you know, other than the top six, even though you can barely argue that Man United top six because just doesn't work for us.
00:20:34
Nicola Pringle-Adams
It's screwing teams over.
00:20:34
Jo
Sorry.
00:20:35
Nicola Pringle-Adams
and Inevitably, teams are just... I'm sorry, I think we're seeing the benefits. I think we are not not the benefits. We're now seeing the repercussions of it. We're suffering. We're suffering. We can't do anything. We we physically can't do anything.
00:20:46
Nicola Pringle-Adams
And unfortunately for a club like Newcastle that is owned by Saudi Arabians, we will always be on people's radar of breaking the flipping rules.
00:20:49
Jo
um
00:20:56
Nicola Pringle-Adams
So I think our club are very conscious of that and are very, you know, and just being a bit too careful. um But if it was me in charge of it, I'd be like, F it.
00:21:03
Jo
Yeah.
00:21:06
Nicola Pringle-Adams
We're doing it. We need something. Otherwise, we're not going to go down, but we're going to suffer bad. We
Team's Competitiveness in the Season
00:21:12
Jo
man
00:21:12
Nicola Pringle-Adams
are going to suffer bad.
00:21:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:13
Nicola Pringle-Adams
The team that we've got right now, there's no way that they can, what is it, at least 42 games? 46? Something
00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, something like a 46, I think.
00:21:21
Nicola Pringle-Adams
like that.
00:21:21
Jo
I
00:21:21
Nicola Pringle-Adams
There's no way. There's no way. there's no way
00:21:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:25
Jo
know you've got coffee in the air, my...
00:21:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think you're bang on about rules, to be fair. but but The rules the way we are the minute is stopping any club like Villa. Villa had a good season last season and they were in our position where they just couldn't really progress.
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And we're in it now that the rules, but the PSR rules are just so anti-competition. Really, these are the great six clubs. I don't know how Tottenham are in the great six club in The teams who finished 17th and 16th last season classed as a big six club.
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's no way of catching them, it seems, and it is very frustrating and I get that.
00:21:53
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:21:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I think you bang on, I think, until the rules change, we have to be very, very clever and we have to be very smart in terms of how we do it. Like Joe said before about future-proofing, buying these young players who we're probably not going to see fulfil the potential for at least another three, four, five years can also add to the frustration of of Newcastle fans. So I think I would love to see the club, in Nick's words, go effort and just go massive.
00:22:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I would absolutely love to see it. We win about three or four leagues, just spend that, spend 100 billion every single transfer window and just take everybody and, don't know, take Erwin Haaland and just put him in the 21s just to really pee people off.
00:22:33
Jo
Thank you.
00:22:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're rich enough to do that, aren't we?
00:22:34
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Thank you.
00:22:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
But we can't. I think the part which I struggle with at the minute And I get it's frustrating and it's really disappointing, but I genuinely think the club are getting too much of a hard
Acknowledging Club Efforts
00:22:45
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time. We are genuinely trying, like I say, two club record bids for two separate players. On top of that, we've tried to get Trafford, Pedro, Huyston was linked, Zabani was linked from Bournemouth. They have we must have been working tight. They must be sat there now.
00:23:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
absolutely knackered thinking what do we need to do to deliver the success we want I think the club are working very hard and I see a lot of rubbish on online again I do need to completely switch off from I follow like three pages oh it was better when we had the previous owner least we didn't have any hope at least we didn't have this and all that rubbish and I get it's frustrating, but i still think, look, there's how many days left? twenty 25, 26 days left of a window.
00:23:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm not saying we're going to have ah fantastic window. And I think overall, it's going to be very hard to see this window as a positive, but we can still kind of rescue it if we get one or two strikers in, in a midfielder, maybe that's, that's what we need.
00:23:31
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Mm-hmm.
00:23:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cause we have lost long staff. Wilson looks at ease.
00:23:36
Jo
Yeah.
00:23:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm probably not going to be there. Dubravka is going to Burnley, but I mean, we've got about 14 goalkeepers anyway. don't think that's, that's too much of a worry.
00:23:43
Jo
Well, that was the point of Ramseil coming in anyway, wasn't it?
00:23:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:45
Jo
and
00:23:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:46
Jo
I've got to say, just
00:23:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
think Ramsdale is a good signing and I think Ilanga is a great signing. we We just need that big marquee. Again, if I go back compare it to Man City, we need that Aguero, even Balotelli.
00:23:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know Balotelli kind of flopped really, but he was a big name, wasn't he? He was a young lad at Inter Milan, massive future.
00:24:00
Jo
Yeah, I'm pretty excited.
00:24:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
He was exciting for Man City. We're at that stage now, but I think Nick's hit the nail on my head, which most Newcastle fans know, to be honest. See, Nick, I am agreeing with you. um It's the PSR rules.
00:24:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're very, very hard to compete with. that's why I think the club need to be cleverer in terms of maybe not lowering ambition. I think we should always aim for top four, top five, whatever it is. And we should always aim to win trophies.
00:24:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I just think transfer target-wise, I think we've probably got to stay away from the next one decade or the next... in the next Haaland, I think it's too much for us at the minute. I think a Fulham striker or a Wolves striker would be perfect for where we're at now. But are the club going to kind of back down in that? Because we've clearly got very high standards.
00:24:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look what players we missed out on.
00:24:43
Jo
The thing is, you know, the board that you've just said, i don't blame the board in any of this kind of moaning or kicking off that we have done.
00:24:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think... Go on, man. Go on,
00:24:48
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Joe. Yeah.
00:24:50
Jo
At no point, by the way, do I blame the board. All the frustrations coming from the sheer fact that, Jesus Christ, we've just put in a bigger bid than someone else and we could still lose out. There's the frustration. You know what I mean? so I'm not blaming the board at all. They're doing everything they possibly can.
00:25:03
Jo
What more do you want them to do? Stick to another 20 million on top just to try and secure it?
00:25:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's what exactly.
00:25:06
Jo
you know what I mean?
00:25:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:07
Jo
It's not going happen.
00:25:07
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Yeah.
00:25:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think the club are doing brilliantly. I agree. I think i know it sounds stupid saying the club are doing brilliantly, right? Cause everyone's frustrated, but we are genuinely trying to sign players. And it's just not for whatever reason.
00:25:18
Jo
Yeah.
00:25:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's why I asked the question in part one.
00:25:18
Jo
Yeah.
00:25:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it the legacy? Is it the, we we have no idea what it is.
00:25:20
Jo
Superbible financing, yeah.
00:25:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Only the players know really. Um, I guess my last question before we end this episode, because this has been a good therapy session for, well, probably for you too. um I'm still feeling really positive. Weirdly. Um, How do we how do we rescue them? It's not going to be fully rescued. We're never going to come out here thinking it's a fantastic window.
00:25:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do you want to see now? Just don't give me specific players. That's almost impossible. But how many strikers, a midfielder, defender,
Positions and Players to Salvage the Transfer Window
00:25:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
goalkeeper? We don't need a goalkeeper, a but... what What would rescue this for you guys?
00:25:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
So between August 5th or August 6th, as people listen to this, to the window closing, how many players would you be happy with?
00:25:53
Jo
Yep.
00:26:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Realistically, we're not going to get six, are we? But how many players would you be happy with in what positions? What you want? And I'll go to Nick first because Joe looks like she's struggling to finish this episode.
00:26:09
Jo
yep
00:26:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Come on, Nick.
00:26:11
Nicola Pringle-Adams
um i'll be happy with flipping one at this point no i'm joking and um oh i i what we got four weeks i would four i'd like to see four but think it's quite high ah we obviously need a striker obviously going without um goes without oh actually no three because we've signed a goalkeeper sorry three i forgot about ramsdale
00:26:11
Jo
ah
00:26:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
One?
00:26:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
No? No?
00:26:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
sign in a week. What positions? What positions do you want to see?
00:26:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay.
00:26:33
Jo
um
00:26:33
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Sorry.
00:26:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, who around?
00:26:35
Nicola Pringle-Adams
um Poor Aaron. I would go for, um obviously, striker. Would I want two? Striker. I'm going to say one. um I would like a centre-half. Yeah, centre-half and centre-back.
00:26:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, so two centre-backs
00:26:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
and striker.
00:26:55
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Who's... Yeah. Hmm.
00:26:57
Jo
And the midway thinking.
00:27:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
That would leave us with four fit midfielders going into the season. Joe?
00:27:05
Jo
So, preferably, I want five, but absolute bare minimum of three. And my three would be straight down the middle. Centre back, in the middle, striker. What I really want to see centre back, two in the middle, two up front.
00:27:19
Jo
Because that's what we need.
00:27:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
For five in the next four weeks, that'll be working hard.
00:27:22
Jo
But that's what we need, though. Especially for Sal Nizak.
00:27:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I agree.
00:27:25
Jo
Especially for Sal Nizak. If we don't sell Izak, just one more striker then.
00:27:29
Nicola Pringle-Adams
We do need one more striker, yeah.
00:27:29
Jo
um for results If we sell Izak, it's got to be
00:27:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. If Izak stays, just one. But if he goes, two is is probably bare minimum. um If Izak does go, and we are talking about PSR holding us back, we wouldn't be held back anymore for at least, what, a year year or two?
00:27:40
Jo
two.
00:27:44
Jo
Long time. Yeah.
00:27:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm making it up. like But we could get a little bit of spending power, but you have to replace him, like Yuzup said. I think for me personally, I think I probably agree with Joe Rebaugh, minimums three right down the middle, one more centre midfielder, one more centre half and...
Should Newcastle Lower Transfer Standards?
00:27:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
a striker if he's actually I think if he's like goes you've then got to get two but I would love to see us get five I'd love to see two midfielders two strikers and one centre half but it can't just be anybody it can't just be bringing people in for the sake of it I know that's not what Newcastle fans want to hear or ah not what they want hear but we just completely disagree with us but we need ARA personality which it looks like a lot of these players who have turned us down to go elsewhere maybe don't have or might be harsh on them or might we just might be getting a lot more money who doesn't want more money um
00:28:27
Jo
Yes.
00:28:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
And on that note, subscribe and like and all that stuff. um But...
00:28:33
Jo
yeah yeah
00:28:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bring it in. Bring it in.
00:28:36
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Please.
00:28:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
and But I think... I think the club are trying and that's what that's what keeps us positive now. We haven't just sat back and tried and not said anybody. We are trying to rival these clubs. Yes, it's frustrating. But for me, I think we'll get four in. I really do think we'll get four. our think there'll be two midfielders, one defender and one striker.
00:28:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's what I think is going to happen. But I think that'll go as well. So I think we'll actually only have Azula... Gordon is kind of a striker. He'll be maybe third choice, second and choice striker. It'll be Gordon through the middle. And then whoever comes in to replace Izak will be the main guy up until January. You've got to remember, if you can get... Sesco might not come in. If you get Sesco in and he stays fit till January, you can then help him out and get a second player in if Izak's gone. But it's all ifs
Final Thoughts on Transfer Efforts
00:29:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
and buts at the minute. But I just, I guess want to do this podcast kind of just as Newcastle fans talking because think that's kind of...
00:29:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
the best content of the minute. we we We can't guess where Sesco's going to go. We can't guess who we're going to go for next. We can't guess exactly what the prices are because nobody really knows. It's all just hearsay on who's bidding more. I think we probably have bid more, but by how much, we don't know.
00:29:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
and But I think it's important to, the message I wanted to get in this episode was the club are trying and I feel like the club are getting a hard time in a minute, which sounds stupid because we've only signed two players, but there's still hope.
00:29:38
Jo
Cool.
00:29:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's hope that kills you like, but we' still hope.
00:29:50
Nicola Pringle-Adams
oh
00:29:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, Nick wants...
00:29:52
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I'm just scrolling for...
00:29:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Any updates, Nick, before we sign off?
00:29:57
Nicola Pringle-Adams
No, no updates. um
00:29:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
No updates.
00:30:00
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Just that Fabrizio Moranos obviously has said that Manchester United are again in direct contact and Newcastle have demanded a final answer from player slash club.
00:30:00
Jo
no
00:30:09
Nicola Pringle-Adams
um United internally feel they have Cesc's preference.
00:30:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Imagine how much... um Imagine just...
00:30:13
Nicola Pringle-Adams
I can't cope with this.
00:30:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Before we do sign off for...
00:30:16
Jo
Thank you.
00:30:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Imagine how much of a legend Cesc would be if he's the one who picks us and comes in and absolutely batters defenders next season and scores... 20-odd goals. He could go down and maybe I should be working for Newcastle United. I'll go and speak to Sesco and I'll tell him how he can be the guy who went against the grain, signed for the project, not the history.
00:30:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
He signed for the future, not the tradition. And he's the one who came in and became next Alan Sheeva. Stays there for 10 years. Breaks his record. Goes down in Premier League history. Newcastle United folklore. Gets the keys to the city.
00:30:48
Jo
ah
00:30:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Wins Newcastle's first Premier League in years. And fires us to glory. There's loads to be positive about, man. We just have to be a little bit more patient. I promise it'll get better. Can't believe I've just made that promise on a podcast. I'm dead on that.
00:31:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway, tune in again tomorrow when there'll be less positive people on. ah Not because we're negative. Just because I'm clearly over positive.
00:31:09
Jo
Oh, Ian's on his own, think.
00:31:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, I love Ian.
00:31:11
Jo
Oh, bless him. Bless him, though.
00:31:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sorry, Ian, but it's true. I'm too positive of being a Newcastle fan. Anyway, thank you very much for listening.
00:31:16
Nicola Pringle-Adams
They really are.
00:31:17
Jo
but
00:31:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let us know in the comments kind of what you would do. How do we bridge the gap? None of us know. We're not experts. We're not pretending to know.
00:31:22
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Bend the rules.
00:31:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
How do we bridge the gap?
00:31:23
Nicola Pringle-Adams
Bend the rules.
00:31:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ben Verule says Nicola.
00:31:25
Jo
Anything
00:31:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Academy says Joe. And I have no idea what the answer is, but let us know the comments.
00:31:31
Jo
to Joel.
00:31:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's been a pleasure.
00:31:32
Jo
Anything to Joel.
00:31:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anything says Joe. Just not emotionally reacting.
00:31:35
Jo
and
00:31:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, I'm signing off. Tune in tomorrow. It's been a pleasure as always. Thank you very much.