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BONUS EP: Halloween (1978) The Watch-Along

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Why settle for a Director's commentary when you can listen to Trav and Rick provide their own shot-by-shot commentary as they watch John Carpenter's iconic Halloween (1978).  We'll tell you when to press play on the movie so that you can listen to our audio as you watch along with us.

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Introduction and Halloween Watch Along Setup

00:00:10
Speaker
Alright, welcome to the Sunday Scaries inaugural Halloween Watch Along. We are, well I am Travis Telerik.
00:00:23
Speaker
I'm Ricky Townsend. And we are going to attempt to... stream the movie, John Carpenter's 1978 Halloween together, watch it together and provide our commentary.
00:00:37
Speaker
And we're doing this in a way where we hope that if any of you also want to watch the movie this Halloween season, that we will kind of provide you the cues so that you could sync up with us. That way you could hear, you know, not director's commentary, but our commentary in real time as you watch it.
00:00:52
Speaker
I think it's good to have multiple opinions about a movie. You know, John Carper has some really good opinions about his own movie. He famously loves to watch his old stuff and smoke pot and play video games and watch basketball is like what he does these days. He's cool dude.
00:01:07
Speaker
For Trav and I, it's October seventh But by the time you've heard this or that by the time you this is on your device, you'll also have access to our actual episode where we cover this movie ah in the way that we cover all of our movies with the awards and the production notes. But that one includes um my old film professor.
00:01:31
Speaker
Is a professor at Travis and I's alma mater, Southern Methodist University, Dr. Rick Worland. That's the episode you want to go to for some real academic meaty takes. This is this is more like trick-or-treating.
00:01:43
Speaker
This is more like a little a little appetizer. Yeah, this is just a little treat. A little treat. um So, without further ado, we we realize in different streaming platforms, we have a very small sample size, but there might be an extra title card. and Not all movies start the same. So, if you want to be synced up with us to the second...
00:02:04
Speaker
What we have found to be the most efficient way is if you start the movie, if you're on Amazon, there might be a title card that comes up for roughly 10 or so seconds. Other streaming services might not have this.
00:02:16
Speaker
So you want to get to where the John Carpenter, the iconic score starts. It plays two to three notes. And right when you see the image of a Compass International Pictures release,
00:02:27
Speaker
That is the first graphic you should see with the film. orange. It's got an eye with a little oval behind it. Yep. As soon as you see that is where you pause. And that is where we will start from. So a few sound bites in. It's going to be like three notes or so of the score.
00:02:41
Speaker
But at least with this graphic, everyone can be synced up. gets a lot harder to sync it up, I think, to the first note of the music. Exactly. And then visual cue. Once you have it paused there. Keep it paused. We're going to give a countdown and then you'll hear a beep.
00:02:56
Speaker
And when you hear that beep, you let it rip and you just sit back, have some candy corn, maybe some Oktoberfest beer. I have a Modelo on me in honor of one battle after another. If you haven't seen that movie, Modellos play an integral role.
00:03:10
Speaker
No spoilers. Going to see it for the third time this weekend, actually. Your one bell after another references is slowly getting up there with my Monsters Inc references that like to make on the show. Well, Monsters Inc. wasn't a front runner for best picture Travis. Monsters Inc.
00:03:26
Speaker
easily could have won best picture in its year. The fact that it wasn't nominated is a travesty. It didn't even win best animated picture that year. Should we just cancel the Halloween watch along and just talk about Monsters Inc.? I would be down, dude. I have seen Monsters Inc. so many times. that's That's one where I could just hear the audio in your end and provide my commentary without even seeing it.
00:03:45
Speaker
All right. All right. Any other last words before we we jump in? No bathroom breaks. it's All gas, no break. 91 minutes. um But it will be a long episode because of that. So let's jump into it. So what do you want to count us down, Rick? And then we'll both press

Michael Myers' Origins and Iconic Elements

00:04:00
Speaker
play.
00:04:00
Speaker
All right. Now, are we pressing play on one or beep? Should we when I say beep? Is that when we press play? Sure. You can say beep. OK. Now, is it when ah you hear the B or the P?
00:04:13
Speaker
Like right when you hear me start saying the word beep at beep is such it's a one syllable word. i I can't imagine that the difference in microseconds between the butt is going to change anything. but And the puff after a great start.
00:04:27
Speaker
All right. Five, four, three, two, one beep. Okay. den dennd and den Does this sound like you? then den den den and den and den and indend and then Are we lined up?
00:04:43
Speaker
yeah Let's see, I'm seeing... Oh, pumpkin. got a jack-o'-lantern, yeah. Donald Pleasance, my favorite character in all of these movies, in the sequels. He just gets crazier and crazier each movie.
00:04:57
Speaker
Pleasance is great. i'm I'm sure we'll bring it up. Some of his other acting roles. He's real Scream King. But before the Halloween movies, before these scary films where he was in a lot for John Carpenter. Shout out Debra Hill.
00:05:09
Speaker
He was the first Blofeld in James Bond. At least the first time you see his face. Travis. only lived twice. so it's Infamously a ah ah big Bond head. Yep. um what i've always So I've seen this movie, I think, more than you, Trav. ive This is probably like my fifth time.
00:05:25
Speaker
Yeah, I think this is like my third. So I've always wondered about this. Is that slit going up to the nose? Is that so it's like that easier access? They just go straight up? like I've always wondered why why that's there, the little slit. That's good point on the jack-o'-lantern. Yeah.
00:05:44
Speaker
I don't carve too many jack-o'-lanterns myself. So if I were to do one, I could see myself. You got a to do that? Yeah, for like a quality of life, make it easier to do. I'm not a perfectionist by any means, so I might put a slit on mine.
00:05:58
Speaker
Travis, who is carving your pumpkins then? We don't have many carved pumpkins at our house. We will just put uncarved pumpkin, a plain pumpkin, a non-jack-o'-lantern front porch. Is it because you believe it's a pagan ritual?
00:06:12
Speaker
um No, it's it's more just we're lazy.
00:06:19
Speaker
Maybe but maybe maybe this maybe this ah this tradition of doing this every year will convince you. Deborah Hill needs to be talked about more. This movie would not exist without her. Wrote the screenplay, got it off the ground.
00:06:32
Speaker
She and Carpenter worked very well together. Had and fielded.
00:06:40
Speaker
close to or far away from Chicago. I just think of Illinois as like Chicago and then nothing else in the entire state. so I'm going to say outside of Chicago.
00:06:50
Speaker
Set in 1963.
00:06:56
Speaker
Now, not the first film to do a POV of the killer draft. Yeah, that's what I was just thinking of. with I know we recently talked about it in a violent nature. Give that a shout out. But a black Christmas did it a few years before too.
00:07:09
Speaker
yeah Yeah, well, Psycho, POV of the killer. Yes. The shower scene. Yep, yep, yep.
00:07:20
Speaker
I have not yet seen Black Christmas. I'm sure i'll watch it this Christmas season. think we're covering it. But were there horny teenagers getting killed in that as well? Yes. Or is this really the first time we see that?
00:07:33
Speaker
This is the one that commercializes it, but it was happened a little bit before. Mm-hmm.
00:07:38
Speaker
I'm going to turn subtitles on. Judith laughing. I always watch the subtitles. OK, it didn't pause great.
00:07:52
Speaker
Yes, there's that noise. ah wait for that.
00:07:58
Speaker
Gets me in the mood.
00:08:15
Speaker
Oh man, left the back door open. is that what I'm saying? Well, Trev, you know who this is. This is Mikey, right? Yeah. This not Mikey. Yeah. This is. So, I mean, the back door, he he should be able to get in his own house.
00:08:30
Speaker
This was his own home? This is his house. That's the what makes all this so crazy. it's That's his sister that's about to get down with her boyfriend. That's right. Like I said, it's been a while. It's been over 10 years. I mean, if this is your first time watching this, then I just spoiled that for somebody. So hopefully everybody's seen this before.
00:08:46
Speaker
I hope you're not watching this movie your first time with us bozos talking over it. You better not be. Turn it off if that's the case. This is not the ideal way to watch. Make that very clear. It's a horrible way to watch it for the first time.
00:09:01
Speaker
ah that he this guy is not, he's a minute man.

Character Discussions and Film Trivia

00:09:04
Speaker
not an endurance guy. Yeah. Well, they got up to the room super quick and yes, that was, that was less than 60 seconds and he's out of there. He's just like, I've had a few experiences where I can relate, you know, you can't, you can't always last forever here.
00:09:18
Speaker
I know, but what was the aftercare? There was no, no time for peddling. And that's a good point. I was not accounting for the time that he already pulled his pants up. Like he only had his shirt left to put on.
00:09:29
Speaker
ah Yeah. And this is a seamless shot. This is a seamless shot. So we didn't, there's no time passage here. Poor Judith, not getting what she needs.
00:09:54
Speaker
he's got his mask on. Not the famous mask yet. Yeah. This is but this is like a gateway mask. Yeah, it's a gateway mask before the hardcore mask. What's up, sis?
00:10:05
Speaker
I've seen a few other videos like this before on my Reddit channels. Do you watch them through a mask like this where your vision is kind of obscured? Because I because I have shame. Stay anonymous. Okay, so let's watch through your web. Oh, God.
00:10:19
Speaker
There it is.
00:10:22
Speaker
always get creeped out when he looks off to the side like that. Like, is he looking out the window for what? Yeah. He's still stabbing while looking away, which is like the no look. It's like the Mahomes no look. Yeah.
00:10:33
Speaker
It's an impressive physical feat to be able to do that.
00:10:40
Speaker
If you were to think of horror movie villains as athletes, like the slashers as athletes, like Mike Myers has to be up there. as part of the A-team, part of the starters, I think, right? Like he's pretty physically built by the time he grows up. Let's think of a player who doesn't speak a lot, who's a machine.
00:11:02
Speaker
brian Brian Cushing from the Houston Texans from like 10 years ago. Guy didn't have a lot to say, but he was scary.
00:11:11
Speaker
I always thought, I just liked how theatrical this part is. Like they just freeze, they look at him. Like in reality, they'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? And they're just like, Yes. Michael, but I kind of like Five seconds plus still going of no dialogue. Yeah.
00:11:25
Speaker
That's crane shot.
00:11:29
Speaker
right. So how old do you think he was there?
00:11:33
Speaker
I mean, six, seven. No, I think that's older than a seven-year-old. That's like a 10-year-old. I'm trying to get his age because it's 78 now. 63 to 78. It's what is that? 15 years. Yeah. that put him at like 25. Yeah.
00:11:43
Speaker
yeah so that could put him at like twenty five If he was 10, I love this scene. A little Pleasance action.
00:11:55
Speaker
You hear me okay, Trav? i'm I'm further away from the mic than normal, but I'm comfortable this now you're fine, man. So I guess we'll cover other Pleasance Carpenter films, but um I don't know if you've seen Prince of Darkness, but that's another great Carpenter horror film that Pleasance is in.
00:12:10
Speaker
I have the Blu-ray and I see Pleasance on the cover, but you like it? Yeah. Yeah. I love what, what do they call it? The trilogy with the thing. Oh, the apocalypse trilogy. The apocalypse trilogy with the thing, Prince of darkness. And then um what am I missing?
00:12:29
Speaker
The thing Prince of darkness and escape from New York. No, then the one with Sam, mill where he's a writer. Oh, oh, mouth of madness. Yeah, mouth of madness. Yep.
00:12:40
Speaker
Yep. I think we're coming up to our first potential for a both a cantaloupe and and a Ben Gardner award in this scene. Yeah.
00:13:02
Speaker
I sometimes wonder if my therapist get tired of me like this guy gets tired of Michael. Like, God, not nothing's taken with him. All the Vyvanse is just like complaining to some nurse about me.
00:13:25
Speaker
I'm in my head right now thinking about like this is pretty progressive of him where she's driving and he's not. i I would have assumed back in the, well, I guess it's now 70s. He's like the boss. She's like driving his boss. You have to chauffeur.
00:13:42
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. I've had for work when I was at KPMG and stuff, when we'd go out with a team, I'd i'd usually offer my car to more junior people. progressive because she's driving. yeah Because she's a woman. That's what I was getting at.
00:13:55
Speaker
Post-civil rights. Do them in the car. This is great. Look at Carpenter here. Uh-oh.
00:14:03
Speaker
They're out and about.
00:14:06
Speaker
this This film is celebrated because this woman's driving a car. He's just very progressive.
00:14:27
Speaker
Oh, there it is. Yep.
00:14:47
Speaker
Maybe he should have been driving.
00:15:08
Speaker
And the entire movie is her fault right there. if If he had been driving Travis, the movie's over. Yeah. Okay. So you're saying- Take the keys Get the fucking keys.
00:15:20
Speaker
The evil is gone. love that line. The evil is gone. we see Mike Myers ever drive a car again after this movie? Oh, yeah. Oh. future films? ah Uh...
00:15:32
Speaker
This is the only this is the only Halloween movie I've seen multiple times. i I think they really strip away like all technology from him in future films where he's always just like walking around. He's like a drive slow homie kind of guy.
00:15:47
Speaker
Interesting enough, not the title card, just telling us it's the the the the date. I love Haddonfield, dude. I wish I wish I could have lived there without, you know. Take away the murder, include all the premarital sex.
00:16:02
Speaker
And, you know, having, what is it? Howard Hawks is the thing on TV, which is interesting because then he makes the thing four years later. She's the one. they're what you You'll see it.
00:16:16
Speaker
They watch the original thing. Yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis, probably not probably definitely in the mountain rush more screen Queens of all time. Oh, yes.
00:16:29
Speaker
Nice exposition there. ah Daughter of Janet Leigh. I don't know who Janet Leigh Curtis is. Yes, you do. actress No, it's Janet Leigh. Father's Tony Curtis.
00:16:41
Speaker
That's how she got Jamie Lee Curtis. Janet Leigh is Marion Crane in Psycho, Travis. Oh. woman that gets killed in Psycho. Wait, that's her mom? And get this. Long lineage of horror actresses. Remember Sam Loomis in Psycho?
00:16:55
Speaker
ah Is that his name? Dr. Loomis. Dr. Loomis here. i didn't know the... so I'm sure Dr. Worland will get into it. I'm not going to step on his toes because I'm not going to say it as eloquently. but Something magical is happening in the genre at this point because now we're starting to have self-referential shit happening like that, like referencing other horror films.
00:17:13
Speaker
Yeah. i like A lot of good directors usually have a wink and a nod to past horror films within their movies. But this is the first time that starts happening. and okay It hadn't really happened before that.
00:17:31
Speaker
And I believe Tommy is in the later films grown up in the in like the fourth reboot.

Halloween Traditions and Character Interactions

00:17:38
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:17:41
Speaker
How many of the Halloween films have you seen? All of them except for ah kills and ends. So the last two that have been seriously. Yeah. I didn't. Sure.
00:17:51
Speaker
Have you actually looked up? what There has to be 10 plus. i I did this. like ah That's how I did my Halloween last year. Oh, my goodness. I made it a thing. It was so fun.
00:18:03
Speaker
theyre all what What is the total count? um Roughly. 13, maybe. What the funny thing is, is like four different timelines. Yes. They all stem from this one.
00:18:13
Speaker
Universe splinters.
00:18:22
Speaker
Lonnie Halloween do better if they have like a Kevin page, like who they bring in to like oversee and make sure the universe has like some consistency. The entire films that knew each other. I'm glad it's all weird and and splintered. And I think it's Feige, by the way. Yeah, I think it is. five yeah I think you're right.
00:18:38
Speaker
But, uh, oh, I love this. You hear the mass breathing.
00:18:45
Speaker
Yeah. 13 films. I've seen 11 them.
00:18:51
Speaker
What one has, um oh man, is it Buster Rhymes? Yes. Halloween um Resurrections. That's the sequel to H2O. That was a great one. Was that actually sequel to H2O?
00:19:03
Speaker
Yeah. I thought it was standalone. I didn't know that. Or not standalone, but I didn't think anyone picked up the threads of H2O. Donald Pleasant's starting to lose his cool already the first 10 minutes.
00:19:15
Speaker
yes
00:19:20
Speaker
Not your typical steady-handed ah psychiatrist.
00:19:25
Speaker
Yeah. At the same time, I mean, it was a madhouse there. There was all the freaking patients just walking around in a thunderstorm. He's probably like what is going on at this establishment?
00:19:36
Speaker
For your sure, this is the last time we see him at a professional setting. And after this, he's just like a vigilante, like yeah running around, not getting paid, just using his own time to like try to get after Michael.
00:19:52
Speaker
Fate.
00:20:04
Speaker
think they're trying to tell us something there, Trev. Yeah, I do like movies when there is a teaching lesson. We saw this in weapons. We've seen this in a lot of other movies. It always ties into like the overall plot of the film we're watching.
00:20:17
Speaker
The better. Weapons was teaching about parasites, I remember. yeah, yeah, yeah. I love, I love that he's still there. Most movies would just be like, he's gone he's there for two shots. that Yeah.
00:20:29
Speaker
A quick flash where she questions whether she really saw it or not.
00:20:37
Speaker
And she's unfazed. She's just answering the teacher right away. She's not going to let fate control her. Remember it is Halloween. So it's not weird to see people in masks. That's,
00:20:48
Speaker
That's true. But people masks staring directly at you through a window for a prolonged period of time is a bit atypical.
00:21:06
Speaker
Dude, Lonnie gets hit. There's some bullies here on Tommy. i don't like it. That's a big-ass pumpkin he has.
00:21:33
Speaker
Could come back me.
00:21:37
Speaker
These bullies are all talking in sync here. It's a very ah unique grift. They're running.
00:21:45
Speaker
can't think for themselves.
00:21:55
Speaker
So does Mike Myers have any redeeming qualities here? Like, was he about to stand up for Tommy? was trying to apprehend those bullies. Or do you think that was just by chance that he just came across that? I think anything redeeming about Michael is all by chance.
00:22:08
Speaker
Okay.
00:22:11
Speaker
There's only evil in there. Yes. Good. Isn't there one of the Halloween films where he spares the protagonist though? It's like game respect game. and It's a baby and he he also spares Busta Rhymes.
00:22:24
Speaker
Yeah. Look, I don't think, I think Michael's kind of like, he just does what he wants. Sometimes he wants to kill someone who doesn't, but most of the time he does.
00:22:37
Speaker
That's why the there's a bit of controversy in the and sequels of the original timeline, 4, 5, and 6, the Thorn trilogy. When it gets into the curse, it kind of strips away the importance of his evil because I don't like to think that somebody made him. I just want to think that he's just this primordial evil.
00:22:56
Speaker
All natural. here I like my evil all natural. What's that gate back there? Oh, it's because he took the psychiatrist car. Okay.
00:23:08
Speaker
like a police cruiser. Right.
00:23:16
Speaker
Nobody believes Loomis.
00:23:28
Speaker
This conversation he just had, he pretty much has about 80 other times during the movie. Yes. I know. and war people He's evil.
00:23:51
Speaker
It's pretty awesome that I don't know who Carpenter convinced, but he convinced somebody to be able to pay for Panavision cameras. And so you can get this wide scope because for such a small budget, that's pretty rare to have like this wide screen, be able to see all the image.
00:24:09
Speaker
Wait, so is that that wasn't the vehicle that Meyer stole? know it No, no. But he found the matchbook.
00:24:20
Speaker
Oh, so there is another death in there. Trying to do the kill count. He killed his sister and killed that random guy in the field. here Man in field.
00:24:33
Speaker
what what wonder what that guy's day rate was just laying there. Yeah, that sounds like a good nominee for cannon fodder right there, but we'll keep an open mind.
00:24:48
Speaker
Totally.
00:24:52
Speaker
Totally.
00:25:01
Speaker
Don't be a wet blanket.
00:25:05
Speaker
Come on, Lori.
00:25:09
Speaker
High school kids smoking cigs. So cool. Lighting up some darts.
00:25:16
Speaker
You ever have your cigarette phase, Trav? No, not really. There was a few times in high school, like you would drink and then you'd say something ridiculous. Like, oh I only smoke a cig when I'm drunk, which is crazy because you'd only been drunk like three or four times in your life by that point and never smoked a cigarette before that. So it's a weird observation to make, but that's about the extent of my run with cigarettes.
00:25:40
Speaker
Sounds like a good run.
00:25:52
Speaker
Who needs books anyways? Might be a nominee for one of the lines.

Stalking Scenes and Horror Tropes

00:26:08
Speaker
I love Michael driving. just something great about it. Yeah. I think that's why, again, I'll have to watch the other films again. i it sounds like you've watched them recently, but I don't recall him driving cars in any of future movies after this because it's it's hard to be as scared by a horror villain when they do scenes like this where he just does like a slow drive by. But this this craning is so gets me, though.
00:26:31
Speaker
that The craning is silly, but him stopping, it is i do think about that sometimes. Yeah.
00:26:38
Speaker
I one time yelled shit at a car and they stopped like that. and it was almost scarier than if they had just like gotten out immediately. Yeah.
00:26:52
Speaker
The suspense of waiting to see what they do. Mm hmm.
00:27:00
Speaker
Anytime I watch this, I just feel like Jamie Lee Curtis is on a different fucking level in terms of performance. Like these other two girls are just like, yeah, Linda's like a caricature of a yeah, there's something grounded and real about look at that hair on Linda's very wide. The 80s are definitely coming. i'd set that as yeah
00:27:27
Speaker
I know it's redundant to say, but the score just so great. I know. Carpenter.
00:27:35
Speaker
Is this the most iconic chorus score? It has to be, right? i can't so I think so. I can't think of... Nightmare on Elm Street has a great score. Yeah, and The Exorcist is pretty memorable, but I would still take this over either those two.
00:27:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:58
Speaker
So, Linda's with Bob.
00:28:42
Speaker
Everyone's going to get Lori laid. seems like to be a preoccupation of theirs. like American pie. Well, it's like they think that's going to solve all our problems. It's like American pie.
00:28:53
Speaker
That's true.
00:28:57
Speaker
They're high schoolers, right? Yeah.
00:29:02
Speaker
Geez, Annie.
00:29:07
Speaker
How old was Jamie Lee Curtis? Like she can't be even close to 18 years though. She has to be like at least mid twenties in this film, right?
00:29:17
Speaker
She does not look like she was 19. Really? it No, does look she was nineteen look at it up and she does look older
00:29:36
Speaker
Okay, you're right. 23. Okay. okay yeah Wait, no. No? When was she born? There's a 23 and a 19 here. when was What year was she born?
00:29:48
Speaker
I like this cop.
00:29:51
Speaker
That's Andy's dad, I think.
00:29:57
Speaker
Everyone's a child of one good scour. 58. yeah, 19. so yeah nineteen They filmed a year before this. Yeah, 1920. Yeah. It was 19. Wow. So thats that's accurate age casting there. I'm surprised.
00:30:14
Speaker
Remember, she's going to the Myers house. She had to drop a key at the Myers house.
00:30:44
Speaker
Laurie, I don't really know what you're talking about there, but um just good self affirmation with no one around to hear it. Hey, trust me when you live alone, happens to talk to yourself from time to time.
00:30:56
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I let's see how this goes now without Emmett. Cause I would usually use him as geez.
00:31:08
Speaker
Had it in the sheets. Dude, he is fast. He's got some dexterity. mean, that's kind of a recurring theme. Same with the the guy at the start of the film. Went upstairs, slam bam, thank you, ma'am.
00:31:20
Speaker
Guys who are very just fast at what they do. Quick moving dudes.
00:31:37
Speaker
Is that him on the phone already? No, it's her friend. It's her. She's getting prank called. Yeah.
00:31:47
Speaker
Who's James Ensor?
00:31:51
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:32:13
Speaker
Mm. James Inzor is a Belgian expressionist painter who is most famous for portraying human figures wearing grotesque masks. Really? On the wall. Yeah. Wow. Well done, Carpenter. Deep cut.
00:32:32
Speaker
What are those? Deep cuts is a good name for an award. I was just thinking like deep, like random shit like that. Yeah, but also because like we watch slashers too. So like it's.
00:32:44
Speaker
Oh, yes. and we could think i like deep cuts.
00:32:49
Speaker
We already discussed some of the deep cuts of the clash. which I knew very well. Looked up online. Wow. wow Me with your knowledge of the class. Six people that listen to this and also listen to conjuring to, we'll get a treat that I actually did not know those clash songs, but Googled deep cuts clash just to have some conversation.
00:33:12
Speaker
And you had me just completely lost. It it works. sure It worked. It was good, good content. But now I know those songs. Did you actually go listen to them or you just know them by name? have a session. I'm watching the movie. I'm watching the movie.
00:33:34
Speaker
You know, you have your girls picked out what they want to be. I remember asking them when I was. No, we still haven't figured it out. So that one of them knew. I thought one of them knew. Margo has been a donkey for the last two years and she wanted to be a donkey for the third year in a row, but she's outgrowing the outfit.

Infamous Kills and Techniques

00:33:48
Speaker
It's starting to like tear a little bit. So we might have to switch it up.
00:33:55
Speaker
just can't get rid of the donkey. Can't get over the donkey. i think' costume I think she smokes pot right here. I'm not mistaken. Is that what that was? Was it a normal cigarette?
00:34:09
Speaker
It's one of those funny cigarettes. think it's a funny cigarette. The devil's lettuce.
00:34:21
Speaker
I don't think that's true. Yeah. Sorry. That's coping.
00:34:49
Speaker
He's like, I don't give a shit, dude. Fuck your story. Pleasance has no time for that. How are we? This guy didn't even finish his story.
00:35:05
Speaker
Now this part, I That's tiny grave. Well, she was a petite woman. No. You gotta have at least six feet for the coffin. Stuart Myers.
00:35:19
Speaker
Oh, maybe she was.
00:35:24
Speaker
Oh, it can't be a normal burial, right? Yeah, that's definitely pot. Yeah, dull knife. Very small plot. Maybe was just her ashes there.
00:35:38
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah, I've never noticed how small it is there. He came home and writing down as a potential best line. Jeez, I forgot how often Mike Myers is just cruising around in that vehicle in this movie.
00:35:50
Speaker
Oh, he's behind them. Yeah, he's behind them. Wait, no, he's not. I think that's... Isn't that the cop? Isn't that her dad and or something? I think that's Mike. I think I saw the mask.
00:36:01
Speaker
Oh, dude, speaking of music, are you listening? Don't feel the Reaper? Yeah. They also gave Dr. Demento a shout out who is... you know a legend, a guy who found Weird Al.
00:36:15
Speaker
I didn't know that. Have you not seen the Weird Al movie with Daniel Radcliffe? No, I need to. I've heard it's great. and It's pretty awesome.
00:36:27
Speaker
Yeah, see, that's Mike. Oh, yeah, it is. I'm just chilling. Just cruising.
00:36:34
Speaker
Dude, there's no way he does not smell. This is so unrealistic. There's no way he does not smell the reefer here. Hey, girls. In their car. They're like, hey.
00:36:58
Speaker
Oh, just a couple knives. Really just putting at the end there.
00:37:22
Speaker
Oh, I love their dynamic. Yes. Loomis is a man on a mission in this movie. He is, dude. He is just... He's always walking quickly. No time for shenanigans. No time for small talk.
00:37:36
Speaker
Everything's so urgent.
00:37:44
Speaker
There's Mike Myers driving by again, man. right behind your Loomis. just joyriding around the town. i mean, think about it. He had 15 years... He's never been able to do that. He's just hanging. i love That's a good point.
00:37:57
Speaker
if So he's never driven a vehicle before he just escaped. He's getting in his hours right now. He's trying to like figure out the ropes. He just instantly knew what to do do. you know what I want, Trav, i want under pro I want a version of In a Violent Nature where it's just Mike cruising around Haddonfield.
00:38:13
Speaker
Maybe that's why he slammed on the brakes earlier. It's not because he was intentionally stopping. He's like, what? He accidentally threw his foot down on the brakes. It's like, oh, shit. He gets embarrassed. He sits there for a second. All right. Collect myself.
00:38:26
Speaker
Put it back and drive.
00:38:32
Speaker
Dick Baxter. like these names. Ben Tramer, Dick Baxter, Dennis Bremen or something.
00:38:52
Speaker
Still cruising. Still cruising. He's getting his sea legs under him.
00:39:00
Speaker
I mean, he's he's he's probably driving at 10 and 2. Yeah, i haven't seen his hand placement on the wheel to confirm that. I would imagine. He's doing a pretty good job for a first-time driver. Yeah.
00:39:14
Speaker
Okay, now night driving is a whole different ballgame. Let's see how he does here. He doesn't have his lights on, it looks like. You're right. So that could be, again, just... And and parallel parking. Easy parallel park job. is just Yeah.
00:39:27
Speaker
No cars in front or back. you you're just pulling up to the curb.
00:39:49
Speaker
10 and 2. You were right.
00:39:54
Speaker
Oh, his lights were on. He just turned them off. Okay.
00:39:59
Speaker
So this is back when you could be a cop and live in a house like this? Yeah. I feel like that's, you know. Now that would be like a classic. too Yeah. That's the America people yearn for is you could work normal job like that still afford it at home.
00:40:17
Speaker
um we gonna fix that, Trav? Universal ba basic income? Dude, housing affordability is insane.
00:40:27
Speaker
Maybe that's where Michael Myers helps, you know? Kill some people off. Yeah, when people get killed in a home, it's definitely going to tank. It's going to tank the price that the next family has. He's just trying to regulate the market a bit.
00:40:41
Speaker
But that also gives rise to the Warrens coming in to the next family who buys the house. It's definitely haunted. And then Grifter's grift. Yeah.
00:40:52
Speaker
All right. Now he's the Myers house.
00:40:57
Speaker
This was the seventies. They could have done ah Warrens crossover with Halloween hair. They could have.
00:41:13
Speaker
Although I don't think. So this was the house she had to drop the keys off for that she was just in? Yes. Where she went upstairs and there was that poster? No, that's her home.
00:41:24
Speaker
thats her That was her home. Yeah. Her dad's in real estate, Strode real estate. ah And so he's like trying to sell this as a fixer upper, I guess. Yeah, definitely a fixer upper.
00:41:35
Speaker
So it's been what? It's been 15 years and they haven't sold it
00:41:40
Speaker
That's a tough listing to take on. They haven't specified if there's been owners in between, but. This like another death. yeah and Not a kill, just a dead dog, I think.
00:41:55
Speaker
Off screen.
00:42:05
Speaker
Yeah, this is a fixer upper. What's the 1978 value on this house, Trav? For Haddonfield, Illinois? Talking like $20K?

Laurie Strode's Struggle and Development

00:42:15
Speaker
Yeah, this is a home you could probably buy for less than $10,000.
00:42:21
Speaker
Hop on Zillow right now. Go through my savings account. We should do the podcast out of here one time. and
00:42:49
Speaker
Does Loomis have a gun? Yeah, dude. Now, does he have a permit? I don't know.
00:42:59
Speaker
laughing. Oh, there you Okay, yeah, he does have his permit.
00:43:06
Speaker
Oh.
00:43:12
Speaker
We know. we know, Doc. Oh, this is... I love this line.
00:43:29
Speaker
ah He was only six. Wow. So that means he's only 21 now. He's not much older than the blackest eyes.
00:43:40
Speaker
The devil's eyes.
00:44:16
Speaker
What do you think about that strategy? Yeah, I feel like that's brought up in horror films a lot. Like don't put out a bulletin in APB because we don't want to cause a panic. And then it always backfires, right?
00:44:28
Speaker
So we've never, I'm trying to think of movies where they do put out a bulletin and there are mistaken identities. is going to affect the officer in a very personal way. Yeah. Yes.
00:44:49
Speaker
Funny. Now parents would like love their kids to have any sort of physical books, reading material. I want a cell phone and such going to talk. I want tarantula man.
00:45:03
Speaker
Sounds like my kind of book.
00:45:06
Speaker
Seven days.
00:45:16
Speaker
And he's kind of a bitch.
00:45:32
Speaker
Lester, tough name. Yeah. ah The shelf life of that name could not have been for more than... so Why aren't the kids trick-or-treating right now? It's dark outside. They already did.
00:45:44
Speaker
think it's done. it They do it at like dusk. Yeah. Because remember we saw them doing and it was still kind of light out. That's right. That's right. I would trick-or-treat into the night though, for sure.
00:45:55
Speaker
But it's usually like an hour or two. It's kind of like that 630 to 830 p.m. What are all the parents doing? i Some swingers party? Where are they all at? That's good point.
00:46:06
Speaker
You think they'd be taking their own kids trick or treating?
00:46:13
Speaker
See, what is Annie doing?
00:46:21
Speaker
What is Tommy? Is he an astronaut? This is karate, no? Oh, you're right. You're right. Looks like a space guy. Yeah, I still got some more trick-or-treaters out there.
00:46:34
Speaker
Some stragglers.
00:46:56
Speaker
feel like this movie does a good job of like letting you know where everything is before the action takes place. Like the carnage will have. Yeah, it's like, OK, Annie's somebody's Andy's house is across the street.
00:47:08
Speaker
Lori's is there. the Myers is like, you know, a few blocks away.
00:47:26
Speaker
I remember this. I always remember her saying Lindsay. It's like burned in my brain forever because she says it so much. Kids watching TV and can't be distracted is very relatable.
00:47:36
Speaker
There's sometimes we'll put on the TV set for our girls and it's like there can be an explosion in the room next door and they would had an eye.
00:47:46
Speaker
Some things that would change, Jeff.
00:47:50
Speaker
Was that intentional? Was he trying to make a diversion? Yeah. I'm not sure and which pot shattered. There was still a hanging pot right after he did that. Michael's very, he's kind of like a cute little prankster in this one.
00:48:05
Speaker
Oof, dog. I would just not.
00:48:10
Speaker
Lindsay.
00:48:14
Speaker
Whose dog is Lester's? Lester, not her dog. No, she's babysitting right now. Oh, Lindsay's not her sister. No, Lindsay is her. Oh, poor Lester.
00:48:26
Speaker
Oh, that's tough. Yeah, that one hits hits hard right now. Yeah, now I don't like Michael anymore. So that's two dogs he's killed.
00:48:45
Speaker
Yeah. i think this is I think this is the thing. howard a Howard Hawks, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's cool. That's too cool that he features it in this movie.
00:48:58
Speaker
I wonder thing a few years later if he knew he was going to remake it at this point or if he was just thinking about it because it was still four years away in 1982.
00:49:07
Speaker
Kurt Russell was telling me the other day that Nick Nolte originally was going to play McCready in The Thing. And brus Russell was like helping Carpenter try to find who to play McCready. And then eventually he just told him, hey, do you want to do it?
00:49:21
Speaker
was Was that Russell's first film with Carpenter? Oh, his first film 79. He did Elvis, TV movie where he plays Elvis. okay Phenomenal in that from what I've seen.
00:49:34
Speaker
And then ah Escape from New York was 81. one Was that before the thing? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he was a Carpenter staple.
00:49:47
Speaker
He talks very fondly of him.
00:50:01
Speaker
Was this Jamie Lee Curtis's first film? First feature film?
00:50:08
Speaker
I believe sir if... Definitely her first starring. Potentially her first actual peach feature film. Mm-hmm.

Climactic Scenes and Suspense

00:51:04
Speaker
Annie's a horned dog.
00:51:11
Speaker
Door closed by itself?
00:51:15
Speaker
I think he... I don't think that was him. Well, yeah, but then he he did lock it from the other side, though. Lindsay...
00:51:33
Speaker
Holy cat.
00:51:40
Speaker
All
00:51:44
Speaker
right. Modelo number two.
00:51:50
Speaker
Gosh, she's so whiny. Kills me.
00:51:56
Speaker
i don't understand. The lock looks like it's on the interior, right? There wouldn't be an exterior lock on that room.
00:52:04
Speaker
Well, maybe Michael found a way. He is evil.
00:52:13
Speaker
This girl's locked into the thing. Yes. That's me when I watch this thing. surprised she even picked up the phone. I know.
00:52:25
Speaker
Look.
00:52:37
Speaker
ever babysit, Trev? Yeah, ah briefly. Probably when I was like an eighth grader or so. I did it for like a year for other kids in my neighborhood. You make some cash?
00:52:51
Speaker
Yeah, the money's honestly pretty good. I just, I don't know. and I only got a real job shortly thereafter. Working at Jamba Juice, you know, and honest man's work. Yep.
00:53:05
Speaker
Shit, I can't get this open.
00:53:19
Speaker
Who's she going to tell?
00:53:24
Speaker
don't know. Kids like to be snitches. Margot, my middle daughter, just made up and told my mom that I ran a red light the other day, which never happened. And I don't know where that came from.
00:53:38
Speaker
Oh, my God. she just does it right there. She got stuck in the window.
00:53:48
Speaker
Yeah, kids, man.
00:53:54
Speaker
Oh, Annie, the meme.
00:54:01
Speaker
Utterly fantastic. It's like the meme. My parents are gone. Just has to rush over there. ah But she's the one rushing. Yeah.
00:54:14
Speaker
That's all you think about, Annie. Oh, okay.
00:54:38
Speaker
So this is maybe a TMI here.
00:54:42
Speaker
I was not like, I didn't, I was not very active in that way in high school. Like my, i became a man in college, if you know what i mean? Yes. Yes.
00:54:54
Speaker
So it's always interesting to me to see high schoolers so confident in their sexual conquests. Like i messed around here and there, but I definitely wasn't like planning no yeah sex romps.
00:55:05
Speaker
And i I did not have that confidence at all. I was just like, Oh my God, what are you doing? What's happening? Yeah.
00:55:16
Speaker
Everything's cool now, though. I want everybody to know. i'm real good at it and stuff.
00:55:54
Speaker
You found a fan of pumpkin seeds? Yes. Love pumpkin seeds. Yeah, me too. Me too. Salted, not salted. I don't care. So good. Good consistency. Good texture.
00:56:05
Speaker
God, my God for another great name. and writing all these down.
00:56:28
Speaker
Trav, I'm going to we should start using Jerko. yeah Old Jerko. The old Jerko.
00:56:42
Speaker
It's funny, we make such big deals about kids being locked in on their iPads, but it was no different with the TV. yeah you're like zombies on that thing. Yes.
00:57:17
Speaker
So she's going back to get the keys. Yeah. From the house that she's babysitting that's now empty because the girl is at the Strodes house now. Yep.
00:57:31
Speaker
Got a precursor to a Snuggie she's got going on here. Just a shawl. Oh, what's a shawl? That's a shawl. don't know. Somewhere between a cape and a scarf.
00:57:45
Speaker
I like that. I'm pro shawl.
00:57:50
Speaker
you even realize it's unlocked now? Oh, yeah. and I've never noticed that.
00:58:00
Speaker
oh shit. I love that. I
00:58:11
Speaker
always notice that audio track is doubled. ah, ah, ah. ah Like, they didn't get enough for something and they have to use it twice. Like the choking sound in the very beginning.
00:58:25
Speaker
Oh.
00:58:35
Speaker
That's a good getting killed face. Yeah, that's great. I love that the eyes go closed, open, closed and open again.
00:58:46
Speaker
She's deciding what what she wanted ah on her real
00:58:54
Speaker
Love standing by to reverse polarity.
00:59:06
Speaker
Now, what movie is this? I think it's still The Thing. They're at different house now. Tommy's house. But but but it's all it's on the same channel. that all yeah
00:59:19
Speaker
Have you ever seen the original? No, I haven't. I want to. Neither have I. I've seen a couple of Howard Hawks movies, but not that one.
00:59:28
Speaker
I think it's widely understood that Carpenters is like ah massive improvement. Yes.
00:59:36
Speaker
I always kind of put the fly, the blob and the thing that were all kind of made around the same time. The originals. As like improved remakes of horror films. Oh, yes.
00:59:51
Speaker
But the only one of those. The remake of the blob is pretty, pretty fun.

Horror Influence and Michael Myers' Legacy

00:59:55
Speaker
I don't know. Like the fly and the thing. And invasion of the 80s were masterpieces. The blob's good, but i would yeah call it masterpiece.
01:00:02
Speaker
Got it. You've seen the the blob remake. from No, gonna say, i haven't seen either the blobs. I've seen both flies and I've seen one thing. oh man. It's Johnny drama is the star.
01:00:13
Speaker
Really? Yeah. I love Johnny drama. Not a big entourage fan, but I did like that character. Yeah.
01:00:28
Speaker
Oh.
01:00:35
Speaker
He was very quick to dismiss what he just saw like that dude carrying that dead body.
01:00:54
Speaker
and just love seeing him.
01:01:02
Speaker
ah This is what this my favorite line reading right here in the whole movie
01:01:19
Speaker
whole movie. This one.
01:01:25
Speaker
Get your ass away from it. Yeah, Loomis gets a sick satisfaction of just scaring that It's the only smile he has in the hot entire franchise right there. Hey, Lottie, get your ass away from there.
01:01:38
Speaker
That's good. we got it right down that line.
01:02:00
Speaker
He does drop the 15 years quite a bit. The cop's like, I've heard this.
01:02:18
Speaker
Ooh, another good quote.
01:02:27
Speaker
I think you're like a two so i think you're a second ahead of me.
01:02:34
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Because you laughed at his line right before he said it on mine, but that's not a big deal.
01:02:41
Speaker
Did you go with the buh or the puh part of beep?
01:02:48
Speaker
I went with after I said beep, not before. You probably went right when I said it. Hmm. If you press pause and play real fast, we could probably get synced up. Oh my It's probably going to ruin everything, but I'll try it.
01:03:01
Speaker
I will. Maybe don't. Are you used to doing? as yeah i just did it. Okay. All right. Just heard Linda laugh. Yep. Same.
01:03:11
Speaker
Bob. i love Bob. Nice pair of glasses. Yeah. Very 70s.
01:03:29
Speaker
I forgot that. ah
01:03:32
Speaker
Linda's the totally girl.
01:03:35
Speaker
Not many lines, but a lot are totally just beer cans kicked out of the car. Bob knows that I have a good time. Can I get your ghost, Bob?
01:03:51
Speaker
She is a totally girl.
01:03:57
Speaker
Oh, my God. yeah
01:04:15
Speaker
So she was going to use the little girl's house to have a sex romp, right? Yeah, I guess. And they didn't know that Lindsay had left, right?
01:04:29
Speaker
i I think that was the plan. Annie's like, hey, I'm going to get her out of there. Get that kid out of there. We can have the house to ourselves, basically. Which is a weird thing. It's like, let's all four meet up so we can all have sex separately.
01:04:47
Speaker
Michael Perv. He's patient, very patient. I've known him for 15 years. Yeah, it's 15 years.
01:05:05
Speaker
Yeah, does not seem 19.
01:05:19
Speaker
Well,
01:05:34
Speaker
we think those drapes a little too much. Very 70s. Are those holiday drapes? You think those are up all the time? No, those are definitely up all the time. That's just very 70s.
01:05:58
Speaker
the total is
01:06:07
Speaker
so she could just put lindsay down at this house don't you think the parents would be concerned when they come home at the end of the night and they're like you might have found another another house you might have found another dull knife
01:06:31
Speaker
I just want to know, like are all the parents at the same party? like What are they doing this late? like we're we're There's no parents at any of these houses. mean Parents can go out.
01:06:41
Speaker
I feel like for a Halloween party, it's not always on Halloween. Parents are cool, okay? We can do stuff.
01:06:50
Speaker
This whole sequence, from the moment they start having sex, I think for the rest of the movie, it's just like, Like this is where Michael really starts to make things happen.
01:07:07
Speaker
It's the last 30 minutes of a 90 minute movie. This is like getting into third act territory here. Oh, is it? Is it? We have 30 minutes left? Yeah. I think, I think this is, it goes like, it's just nonstop after this.
01:07:20
Speaker
we're not what we do know What do you think about a lit jack-o'-lantern with a candle right next to the bed? like That's a huge fire hazard, think they're playing with fire.
01:07:31
Speaker
Leaving the phone off the hook. The unfortunate part is that we know we're not going to get any hanging dong here. It's 1978. Yes. We're not there yet. that is They had women driving, so kudos, but no hanging dong. Not that progressive.
01:07:45
Speaker
Man, such a progressive movie. Yeah.
01:07:50
Speaker
I was just more saying Loomis is the person in charge should have been the one driving the car. This all could have been avoided. Totally. Super quick yet again.
01:08:11
Speaker
What I can't wait to hear Worland talk about
01:08:18
Speaker
is how this movie
01:08:24
Speaker
kind of kicked off the whole punishing, punishing the people have premarital sex and yeah drugs, misscu teenagers but that the way they did it wasn't as unartistic or gruesome as like later films that just, I don't know. I want to hear his, like how he delineates that yeah because it seems very clear uh,
01:08:47
Speaker
Well, because Laura Stroh did smoke some pot. I'm just going to say she perfect. I love Cabin in the Woods where they like kind of play up the archetypes of like it's always the virgin or the the pure maiden who is the last to live is is your scream queen. Yeah, that's that's the that's the whole thing that this kicked off from 78 through the 80s.
01:09:10
Speaker
And then Scream kind of made fun of it in 95 until they stopped doing it or 96.
01:09:22
Speaker
Think about it. Slashers, their heyday was from Halloween to Scream. I think Scream killed it or just changed it because it made everybody self-aware of what the tropes were. I think it was some needed self-awareness. Yes, thousand percent. Before Scream came out. I agree.
01:09:49
Speaker
He likes to do the choke the strangle for a while before he stabs him.
01:09:56
Speaker
To go back to Mike Myers being a absolute specimen to one handed lifts. So went up off the ground like brian uhrlaer maybe had to that. dude. That's that is some. I love this. Incredible forearm strength. Well, the force to go through this guy's body to stick him to the wall right here. Yes. That's incredible.
01:10:14
Speaker
Where he doesn't just slide down the knife. Yeah.
01:10:20
Speaker
I love the head tilt. That's probably one of my favorite parts of the movie. It's one of the few times you get some personality from this guy and like this morbid curiosity and they hold on to it. I love it.
01:10:39
Speaker
Oh, I love the sequence. Yes. The best. It's so good. playful. Mike Myers have some yeah personality there. He's like, you're going to put a sheet over me and be a ghost.
01:11:15
Speaker
playing it real stoic, especially because he took his glasses and put it over the sheet. I wish I could see him do that. but i want to see him get all ready for this. Had to cut out holes for the eyes.
01:11:41
Speaker
He's committed to the bit, man. Mm hmm.
01:11:54
Speaker
This is going nowhere.
01:12:00
Speaker
oh this is a great gag. do you remember what happens here? Okay. It's a gag that's used in future horror movies, but.
01:12:08
Speaker
Oh, yes. Thanks to having sex. Yeah.
01:12:16
Speaker
ah
01:12:19
Speaker
Famous squealing. Yeah.
01:12:38
Speaker
Well.
01:12:52
Speaker
William Shatner mask.
01:12:55
Speaker
What? Yep. That's what that was. Painted white. It is. Oh, my goodness. Captain Kirk. With the hair, though? Mm-hmm.
01:13:07
Speaker
Sure, Dr. Whirland will break it down in detail, but I know it's Shatner at least.
01:13:16
Speaker
Something that was fun when I was binging all these movies was to keep track of like how the mask looked. There are some movies where it looks horrible. From like three, no, sorry, four, five, four and five, it does not look good. Six, it looks good again.
01:13:29
Speaker
They reduced their budget with masks or they tried to do too They lost the old one. They had to like recreate it and it never never like worked out for many years. Yeah, I guess they just let the kids sleep wherever. Yeah.
01:13:41
Speaker
Takes a village.
01:13:46
Speaker
I love, did you see Moreland's email that he watched Halloween 3? He did it that night. No, I didn't see that. He replied a couple days ago. Oh, man. I might need watch that before we record with him.
01:13:59
Speaker
Yeah. If you can, that'd be great because it is a funny little aside. think you'll like it, dude. I mean, It's not this. That's for sure. Yeah. Isn't that his car?
01:14:10
Speaker
It took him all this time. His car is right there.
01:14:15
Speaker
He's just standing there for like hours and he finally around. I'll stay here. Keep my eyes open for everything but my old car.
01:14:53
Speaker
Well, all the teens are dead except for Lori. Except for Lori. And, man, who is her crush? Paul. She's been kind of touting. No, was Andy's guy. Ben Tramer. Yeah, Ben Tramer. But we never saw Paul or Ben.
01:15:08
Speaker
Yeah.
01:15:21
Speaker
I don't know why I just this is this movie is kind of like comfort food for me. It's just kind of it kind of glides along. It's very easy to watch. it it doesn't feel like um and maybe it's this the Steadicam or whatever they're using.
01:15:34
Speaker
It's not like. a Stop and start and jerk. It's just I don't know. It's a nice watch. I like watching this movie. Not the scariest. It's just like very sturdy.
01:15:47
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Got a nice little
01:15:50
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spooky anecdotes and suburban terror.
01:15:57
Speaker
I think she looks so hot here.
01:16:01
Speaker
Yeah, Jamie Lee Curtis can get it, dude. You see the latest Freaky Friday ad? Yes, that's what is all the conversation about a freak your Friday.
01:16:12
Speaker
Disney's marketing is a lot people are generation younger being like, holy cow, Jamie Lee Curtis babe. Oh, they only had seen True Lies or Coming to America.
01:16:27
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That squished jack-o'-lantern has been distracting me like every time I show that house. david Have you noticed it? It's like very wide. It's ah a typical pumpkin shape for sure.
01:16:39
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It's like art Arnold from Hey Arnold.
01:16:43
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Stewie Griffin. Yeah.
01:16:53
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So she left the kids alone. Yes. Not a great babysitter.
01:16:59
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I guess she made a calculated decision, but.
01:17:06
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She's keeping an eye over there.
01:17:15
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right, well, now she's all in.
01:17:47
Speaker
Isn't that right where Bob was killed? right behind him? Yes, it was. he does some pretty quick cleanup as well. He does, but there would be pooling blood pretty creative everywhere. He's pretty creative where he stashes Bob, though.
01:18:00
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I mean, yes, but also there'd be blood everywhere on that door. Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:18:10
Speaker
want to steal that adult knife.
01:18:24
Speaker
Alright, Jerkos. You old Jerko.
01:18:36
Speaker
Does Laurie talk to herself more than other people in this movie? Yeah, I think so.
01:18:48
Speaker
Did you see my name for this pod? No. What was it? Lonnie's Ass. Lonnie, get your ass away from there.
01:19:06
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I think that was supposed to be a scary voice.
01:19:12
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little questionable.
01:19:21
Speaker
Have you seen Halloween 2? Yeah. Hulling 2 is great. Hulling 2 is like a direct continuation. It truly makes it like ah four hour long movie. or not four I guess it would be four. It can't be. Yeah, because this is only an hour and a half. yeah i think that's But it makes it like a longer experience. It's really cool how it just continues into the night.
01:19:41
Speaker
And 3 does not do that. Yeah.
01:20:04
Speaker
I think Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 is... Oh, he put the tombstone right there. Oh, shit. You're still little ahead of me. That's a little artsy of old Mikey here.
01:20:19
Speaker
Now, where's her body, though? He took the tombstone, put it on ant above Annie's body... Maybe that's why the hole was so small. Maybe it was just... Maybe he just took the tombstone and that's what he saw dug out.
01:20:37
Speaker
That might make more sense.
01:20:40
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Shit, Bob. and size
01:20:46
Speaker
I always never i never understood her positioning. Is she cut in half or did he just stuff her in there? like Yeah, I can't tell. gotta get out of the house.
01:21:00
Speaker
You know what this is similar to is Friday Friday the 13th, which came up to you. Oh, fuck. That's great. That's a great shot. Yeah.
01:21:14
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Oh.
01:21:20
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Michael, you had one job.
01:21:26
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Oh, no. Locks. Always get in our way in horror movies. But somehow they're able to lock people from the inside.

Conclusion and Listener Engagement

01:21:35
Speaker
I'll never get that. It just happened in the laundry room, too.
01:21:39
Speaker
So that was that an intentional miss by him? Just like a warning shot that he fired? I think he just got a little nervy. Did he put the rake up there? So he booby trapped all the. and Yeah, there is a rake leaning up against the doorknob now.
01:22:10
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Oh, definitely catch your hand open.
01:22:17
Speaker
Oh, that might be my cantaloupe. That made me nervous.
01:22:46
Speaker
All right, Trav. You see Jamie Lee Curtis screaming like that. You open your you turn on the lights. What do you do? You open the door?
01:22:58
Speaker
Likely help. The problem is Anna's very insistent. She gets a good night's sleep. but So if she's home, she she might tell me, don't don't open up that door. Tell her to go away.
01:23:11
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Hannah should watch this movie. See what's the consequences reactions. Oh, I love this part. The slow, steady walk. So here's a fun fact, Trav.
01:23:23
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This slow, steady walk, you know, becomes infamous. Yeah. My buddy Rosie, who you know, director of marketing in or director of in-game entertainment, at the Mavericks. Did you see that viral clip where the half get halftime show was like, or can you escape from Michael Myers? That was Rosie in the slow walk. Oh, that's awesome. He came up with it and he acted as Michael.
01:23:45
Speaker
I've seen so many people, so many other videos and like people on social media do that recently. Oh, other teams are doing it now. No, I know like there's like real estate agents who do it for like, can you like get to this, you know, house door and unlock it in the time it takes Michael Myers. Oh, really? yeah do Real estate games got jokes.
01:24:06
Speaker
We got jokes, man.
01:24:18
Speaker
Like she barely got cut from that. Took off the sleeve of her shirt. Makeup team wasn't properly cut. She did cut her hand open on that plate glass.
01:24:31
Speaker
What I do like about this third act is that. Oh yeah. ah Sewing needle.
01:24:39
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ah Knitting thing. yeah She slowly and pretty naturalistically gets more confident in her combat against him. It's not like she just becomes superhero, but she's like slowly like be more resourceful.
01:24:54
Speaker
Like those jeans too. Now she's got his knife. It's a great shot. This is the classic, like you've always got a double tap. Yeah. You do not leave him. You finish him off. He's totally playing possum.
01:25:24
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, what are you doing? I mean, she doesn't know.
01:25:29
Speaker
She doesn't she talk to Loomis. If Loomis had talked to her for 15 years, I think it's also funny that as far as urgent as he is, he does nothing like he he has not done anything. help He saw the car, knows Mike Myers. Watered around like a psychotic killer is loose.
01:26:14
Speaker
Yeah, she's just leaving them down there. That's wild. Not calling the police, not killing them. Just like, I think I'll go upstairs now.
01:26:25
Speaker
Oh, she's getting the kids. Yeah.
01:26:29
Speaker
Respectable, but still call the police. Yeah, call the cops. Finish them off first.
01:26:44
Speaker
Hmm.
01:26:48
Speaker
He knows. Oh, Jesus.
01:27:03
Speaker
Trav, we're going be covering a second film that features the Boogeyman this month. What other film? Nightmare Before Christmas. Oh yeah.
01:27:13
Speaker
Oogie Boogie. Boogie Boogie. Some great musical numbers there. I know somebody in my life who I'll not disclose their name that has a sexual kink about the boogeyman in that movie. And I'm going to say it here because I can't say it in that pod because it's going to be with Well, we can say it now because because that podcast already happened in this timeline. like Yes. So by this point, you've already heard that podcast with young Wesley, so we can't say it there. So I'll say it here.
01:27:39
Speaker
I know someone who like wants to be tied up by the boogeyman and has mentioned it several times. Oh, no. Hey, man, whatever floats your boat. He's like sock puppet. She thinks he's attractive. I don't know. He's doing well for himself. He's an enterprise. He seems like a successful guy, creative, kind of comical. Oh, it's a guy who wants to be tied up by the boogeyman. No, no, it's a girl. I'm saying she, I'm so i'm trying to give credit to the boogeyman. Like he is pretty successful.
01:28:06
Speaker
He's creative. He's kind of like the underbelly of Halloween town. Underbelly. He has a big belly.
01:28:15
Speaker
Yeah, those coat hangers can be hella sharp. Get in there. get in Come on, quick. Make quick work of it.
01:28:27
Speaker
Go for it. She really does just over the course of this franchise just own Michael Myers. I mean, well, you should.
01:28:39
Speaker
Oh,
01:28:50
Speaker
But again, double tap, double tap, make sure that dude's dead.
01:29:03
Speaker
Now she's the one with the with the phallic tool. Penetrating him. We're going with this.
01:29:15
Speaker
Dr. Wallen will talk about it better than I can.
01:29:19
Speaker
There is something there. Okay. Reverse roles, something with the penis, something, some power exchange, but I've had three Modelo, so I can't, I can't do it justice.
01:29:38
Speaker
Come on, double tap, man.
01:29:53
Speaker
Why can't did he cut the lines? Why can't she call them here? Why can't she call the cops here, dude? It's a good question. don't think we saw that, but he was pretty.
01:30:06
Speaker
Oh, no, that was the other. I love this. Yes. The slow set up. Yes. So classic.
01:30:21
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all right, Loomis, what are you going to do, buddy?
01:30:25
Speaker
this This is his moment. It is. He's got his permit. He's got his firearm.
01:30:53
Speaker
See, he has to start the strangling. He could have finished her right there he didn't start with the strangle.
01:31:05
Speaker
Takes the mask off. I forgot about that. Yeah, and you see his little messed up eye or whatever. Yeah. Why is his eye messed up? There's a theory about this on... Oh, geez.
01:31:17
Speaker
Well, because she poked him with the clo coat hanger. Oh, is that why? i Like she just did that? That's my head cannon.
01:31:28
Speaker
Loomis went to target practice. Center mass.
01:31:33
Speaker
He still clicks his gun when Mike Myers has clearly fallen off the roof. Like what was he firing at there?
01:31:51
Speaker
I've known him for 15 years. Yeah, this would have been the perfect time to just remind one other person.
01:32:06
Speaker
And he gone.
01:32:12
Speaker
Oh, shit.
01:32:15
Speaker
Stick around for like 10 more movies, bro. What a great ending. What a great ending.
01:32:28
Speaker
No satisfaction here.
01:32:41
Speaker
And we, hear oh, we hear his, we hear his breathing. i love that.
01:32:48
Speaker
Oh, the subcaptions just said, Michael breathing heavily. Just in case you missed it. Heavy breathing continues. That's a wrap.
01:33:13
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Boom. All right. Well, we got our first watch along in the books here. you want want to, how about we just chat a bit over the credits and then we'll be done. Sure. like, like people to watch the credits, you know? Yeah.
01:33:27
Speaker
Um, oh Amazon stream. Oh God, it cuts us off. and That's okay. It doesn't want us to see the credits. Well, mine are still going.
01:33:38
Speaker
Lori's father was named Peter Griffith, who we only see once. ah The shape.
01:33:46
Speaker
The shape is what they call Michael Myers in this, by the way, in the first movie. Nick Castle.
01:34:05
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um
01:34:08
Speaker
Well, he reprises Michael Myers in the new Halloween movies. Really? The same guy all these years later? ah He co-wrote Escape from New York with with the Carpenter.
01:34:20
Speaker
oh cool. um And then he made one of my favorite fucking movies ever. The Last Starfighter, 1984. Never seen it It's like Princess Bride for space.
01:34:33
Speaker
Highly recommend it. Well, this sounds like good content, man, to capture on the actual pod with Dr. Worland here. oh That's true. But I do have to tell you that he did direct Major Pain in 1995 as well. Oh, love Major Pain. Love Major Pain.
01:34:46
Speaker
Oh, that was fun. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad we did it for those who are still sticking with us. Thank you for, uh, celebrating some of your Halloween with us. Um, the, yeah this was very new for us. So if you like this at all, please affirm what we did. If you hated it, also let us know because this will leave us very blind, uh, whether we should do this again or whether people just hate this. And this was, uh,
01:35:15
Speaker
only for recognized enjoyment. but Well, i I've, i want to do it again just cause it's fun. Yeah. Um,
01:35:27
Speaker
you know Even if you didn't like it, you can move right on to other other other episode where we actually talk with Dr. Worland. Listen our full Halloween episode where we'll go into our typical coverage there and a lot more, I'm sure, academic slant to that.
01:35:40
Speaker
And i think that's about it. Will this be the last episode people hear for the month of October? Well, it depends on if they listen to this first or because we're dropping this and the Worland episode both on the 26th.
01:35:52
Speaker
All right. Well, then, happy Halloween to you guys, and we will catch you November. Happy Halloween. Bye, guys. See ya.
01:36:06
Speaker
I guess I'll play our music. Why not? not?