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Speaker: Yeah, it's Chamber of Reason. It's Chamber of Reason. It's a minimalist episode with no Derek, no Matthew, just me and my good friend, Patches. How's it going, man? It's going all right, man. How are you doing? Now I'm really curious. Do any amphibians have any keratinous features? Like, does a salamander or a newt ever have a claw, or are they always just gummy guys? Gummy gumy gummers.
Speaker: And why don't we think they have that? but like That's the thing about amphibians. that is so the the gumminess of them is so cool. I always like that about them. I like that there's this sort of... ah First of all, you look at them. they're the They're the hands that you throw against the wall, the stickies.
Speaker: that they're They're supposed to be squishing into things and squishing out of things. There's like ah the adaptability, tadpole to frog, all of this. You've covered this many times. I don't want to... Well, I had no idea, but nowre now that we're looking at it, frogs actually do have ah sort of unsophisticated keratin on their forelegs and hind legs. What's the utility?
Speaker: That's a good question. I guess just for dexterity or or for digging or what have you, maybe gummy appendages won't work for all that. They like try to like sleep in mud sometimes right they'll try to stay cool. So I imagine that like the ones who couldn't do that couldn't hide, couldn't remain cool during warmer abnormal warm days. And maybe if they have any sort of webbed features for swimming, ah maybe... Which i think they do. Yeah, maybe you need something stiffer than bone on the outside of the webbed features in order to uphold the entire structure. So that's kind of interesting. And it looks like as tadpoles, they have a little bit of keratin in their mouth parts, but that somehow migrates down to the first hind legs. That's really cool. All right, so enough of that. But yeah just that's the fun fact of the cold open of this episode is that salamanders, ah frogs, and other amphibians are not necessarily gummy creatures.
Speaker: You are a different child. Now that could not be more appropriate. Guys, we're recording in the podcast about the studio. The soundboard has not been updated from the curious the Curios. Yeah, I think they they i mean they have no interest in updating it from that.
Speaker: No, I mean... Why would you, I guess? All of that stuff is just instantly funnier now because its association with the 12 weeks or 8 weeks of Benjamin Button. yeah um Well, I've prepared a few things for us to potentially talk about today, but um maybe we can kind of, maybe I can do a personality quiz on you in order to figure out which of these quizzes would be most exciting to take. That's really fun. So I won't tell you what the quizzes are. I'll just my best to rapidly improvise a personality quiz. I like the idea of, of your you like I can't really picture what what Patches would like, but I know that if I tested him, suddenly it would there's a clarity, right? A lot of people would just describe this as a conversation. Right, yeah, but I like that for you. It it's like sort of always has this combative kind of edge to it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: You know, that's something that, you know, if you're in school, if you're in primary school, if you're in kindergarten, and your teacher... Yeah, checking this out right now. If you're checking this out as a little school student, and your teacher is always flinging quizzes at you as a surprise, or saying it's time for it's time for a test. It's discourse, really. it's yeah it's It's conversation you're having. Yes. So you can either, you know, argue with your teacher and say, can't you just talk to us? You know what the teacher will always say, though? They'll say, I tried that.
Speaker: And I still don't know what you know. They they do do that where they will like push back that way. Have you tried to argue argue your way out of like ah an exam? in in in In college, it's very easy to do, I feel like. Oh, I find it harder in college. I thought i was getting away with murder in in school. i was ah like writing...
Speaker: essays that didn't meet the page requirement and then somehow saying like, okay, well that was a technical difficulty. I can get you the rest of it, but my laptop has the PDF, ah the software my laptop that writes PDFs is damaged. I'd say anything just to like convince someone that I knew more about how to write PDFs than... This was in secondary school, right? This in like high school. So yeah, they'd be like, all right, well, how about a doc X or a doc? I'm just like, right unfortunately right the mainframe... but The particulars of the sort of the firmware update that I had. like I'm running this on Linux. yeah so yeah Sorry. yeah this is ah I'm running this off of a... It's a Raspberry Pi. Exactly. I was just going to say that and I couldn't remember yeah
Speaker: but um yeah i yeah I got out a lot of stuff. I needed to implicate my guidance counselor a lot of the times. I needed my guidance counselor to be a shooter for me. nice and i remember being in ah in the guidance counselor's office one time and my um honors English ah teacher...
Speaker: was basically breaking down and throwing a tantrum. He was like, why do you always take his side to my guidance counselor? And then he stormed out after basically acquiescing to letting me pass. even Yeah, it's ah it's a bad posture as ah as the adult to say why guidance counselor are you taking this kid's side? He gave up a lot of ground. Yeah, it was really, really Poor move. that was more Yeah, I would do that again differently. Yeah, I was always bad when an adult lets a child think I can't believe my luck. You know, that's you can't do more psychic damage or societal damage to a child by letting them not believe their luck. It's to give the mouse a cookie. yeah is is like All children are are sort of like takers. And i don't mean I don't mean that derisively. I mean that like that's kind of their role. They can't help it. Yeah, that's their role. there there there It's oral stage. We were talking about this a little bit oh yeah last night. The first personality quiz is which psychosexual stage of development were you stuck on? I was thinking about this actually after we talked about it. And I was thinking, i think I wish I was, I'm glad I'm not, because i think I think latency period is like NPC, right? Like that's people who like don't matter.
Speaker: Totally. I think I'm probably, unfortunately, think I'm like all of the oral stage. Really? Top to bottom. I didn't know there were two. So I know for a fact that there's anal expulsive and anal retentive. We were talking about that last yeah night. that like everyone There's two for oral stage as well. Okay. yeah And is it also, it can't be expulsive and retentive because there's no waste. and I mean, let some people you talk You sucker blow. Yeah.
Speaker: I want to see it because I was literally I was like I mean I was drunk going home and was like what person are we talking about? If had to guess like stage of oral is that you were weaned a certain stage? Yeah oral aggressive and oral dependent.
Speaker: ah Okay. And so oral aggressive, smoking, nail biting, gum chewing, sarcasm. Oral fixation, people call that. But it's just another misnomer when people just ah got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And oral dependent, overeating, dependency on others, gullibility or passivity.
Speaker: Interesting. I love how one of them is just like you put shit in your mouth and the other is like you're weak. And I was like, that's me. like i have I think I have like a a a real like um sort of neophyte sort of approach to I'm very mean like
Speaker: when the the i mean like The podcast, our friends, the boys, they they literally they did give me that peanut can and I opened it. And that's just like, I'm like very... Patches fell for a ah a prank peanut can. Basically, one that like, so yeah, like something that is like in the annals of pranking and like falling for it is... i love how hard that was for you to like admit. like it was actually hard. to i mean, it happened and they filmed it and they put it up and I don't like to bring it up. But like... yeah I felt so tender for you in that moment. Yeah, I didn't see it happen live. I just saw you. I just saw even now I feel like a tear might come to your eye. Yeah, I've been raw lately and
Speaker: i but no, it's it's and so I do feel like and then and then I think my reaction to that can be very gracious or it can be very like, like, we'll fuck you anyway. And then let me find the thing to say that will hurt you. right and it's like and And so i i have like ah I feel like a very volatile sometimes inside, even if I think mostly I'm pretty like a polite person. Right. Yeah, there's something. i wonder if it if it changes the way you speak when you're an ah oral fixated person. You know, you love to put shit in your mouth and you love to just spill the tea. I used to do a bit in high school where, um, in choir where I would, it was like the tenors would, we're always sitting across from the sopranos, the girls. And so I'd find one of the girl, it sounds bad, but it was funny.
Speaker: I'd find one of the girls in there, usually an underclassman. And because it would be easier to freak them out. And I would just stare at them and then start eating the paper of that we were given. And it was, it would get it.
Speaker: You would think antisocial, strange. It was getting laughs. right was getting laugh i had ah i had a I had a thing. It worked. yeah but Staring always makes a bit that has very little comedic merit oh work. It's just doubling down, committing to the bit. As long as you're staring through it. yeah no I'm not saying it was like this like it was like a genius idea. it was just like it was and but then Although many geniuses have eaten paper.
Speaker: right yeah yeah It is technically something associated with genius, but right when a child does it, is just like, oh, the weird kid being weird again. yeah One way to flop that bit is to look around wildly while you eat paper. Oh, yeah, and, like, feel bad about it. And i was like I was like, let me... I would just, like, try it out, and, like, so people would laugh, and it was fun. and um But I do think I also, like, enjoyed eating... but I was curious... actually liked eating paper, yeah. It was more out of curiosity. Right. It was more like a... Like, um...
Speaker: What could go right? Well, nothing stuck yeah well nothing's stopping me from eating this, really. yeah It can be digested. It doesn't taste like poop. like there's there's there But it's just present. Eating paper is truly like eating paper. that's like yeah you imagine if you if There's there's it's there's no metaphor that would make that would clarify how easy or hard it is to eat Well, there's also there's just no social rule. The only thing stopping you is the social rule yeah around it. Hey, don't eat that. Which is like correct. And like you shouldn't like do that in almost all company. um But it was fun. i enjoyed it. It's just like nails on a chalkboard. That's the only reason people don't like I have like a real, that I have a real, nails on chalkboard sound I can't You just can't do it. Yeah, even, Sorry.
Speaker: took us out just saying it. I was like, oh man, that's tough for me. Yeah. yeah Someone saying it is like nails on the chalkboard too. Someone bringing it up. Yeah. um Apropos of something insanely relevant. Yeah. right You have to be careful to talk about anything you don't like because someone might take it as an opportunity to invoke the idea of nails on the chalkboard. As soon as patches, as soon as you tell someone or your doctor about like things that you're worried about, like you have a mole that you want checked out and then interrupt yourself and go, and by the way, please don't bring up nails on the chalkboard.
Speaker: It always goes here whenever I bring up something undesirable. right yeah um I remember when I was trying to make people laugh in elementary school, i would I would say, I like putting ketchup on my apples before I eat them. And then I would put a little bit of ketchup on my apple and just suck the ketchup off without biting the apple. but no one cared to see whether or not I bit into the apple. Right, but it was it was because there was enough lead up. No, you did a great job. Enough preamble. Yeah, basically just a magic trick, and everyone was like, Pierce, that's so gross. yeah Meanwhile, I'm just sucking ketchup off of essentially paper. yeah okay The outside of an apple is just a plate for ketchup. Yeah, really. It is, yeah. Well, that's how I treat, how I, like, it's, I had these, we had these pears that we got from the farmer's market.
Speaker: And um I kept not eating them. And then I got to a point where I was like, i have to eat these. And they stopped being, like, it's funny you say, like like, the mushiness of them, they stopped being the, like, the plate. I lost the foundation of them. I could grab them and then they already, like, were losing their forms. And it did make it just... it not It wasn't the taste of it. It wasn't the oldness of it. But i was thinking, like oh, the losing the form of this makes this rank. But like you can you can lick anything off of an apple. i took like ah Speaking of quizzes, I took a quiz about... um
Speaker: I think it's like the disgust quiz. I think it's specifically about food. What with respect to food disgusts you the most? And the thing that disgusted me the most was any sort of mush when it comes to fruits. You have that, huh? Yeah. I can basically handle everything disgusting about things that we're supposed to eat and drink except for mushy fruits vegetables. What was the structure of the quiz? That's good question. Because that's interesting. I didn't think about it. I definitely have that. Like rotten meat is up there. Stinky cheese. Stinky milk. I think rot does it for me.
Speaker: Which, yeah. I can't do rotten food. I can kind of fuck with rotten food because to me, I guess I am fascinated by corpses. Oh, okay. Have you seen The Zed in Two Knots? It's a Peter Greenaway movie about these two twins who just watch corpses decompose. That's cool. You would like it. I probably would. We can move on from the movie naming. There's something just feels so unproductive about rotting fruit versus rotting meat. Rotting meat just like, oh, finally, we can reveal the trueness of this thing that was once alive. Eventually, the skeleton will be revealed. The pure...
Speaker: skeleton is is like that's the trueness of the thing and that is like oh we're getting closer to the truth. When a fruit mushes, a fruit just kind of softens and mushes you're just like just get it away from me. I know nothing is about to get revealed by the way. Right. I know that this has just become something that is more pungent so that flies can find it easier. Yeah I think that's that's interesting. i i Well, so in that sense, it's it's it's there's a truth there in that, like, okay, it's it's it's not a truth. It's just its purpose. That's its purpose as opposed to its truth. Well, mean... It's like your job is to, like, be discovered so that you can nourish other things, so that you can propagate. But that's not... Your life is your life is forfeit. All you can do now is is feed. It's almost like the stinkier a food gets, yeah the less...
Speaker: the less productive members of the bug society want it. Right. it's just like there sophisticated bugs who are just like, you know, I'll only lay my eggs in perfectly ripe or even pre-ripe fruits. um Or maybe I'll even- I mean, there's the poo-poo platter Bugs Life bugs. Yeah, yeah exactly. Right, and they're ready to have it. disgust-oids. was thinking about with the rotting meat thing, I think, um maybe maybe you don't feel this way, but for me, I think the the rotting of it, ah um and I think maybe this is because I was raised Catholic, it's like I go, oh, well, these were alive. And the and the nature of their rot and the stench that comes from it reminds me of...
Speaker: like makes their death actual. Yes. Right. Where before they're just sort of like, like, you know, like everybody, you know, it's like, oh, they're just like, you know, cubes of protein. And that's how we all just see the meat. But like, it really does like reveal itself. And then the disgust, the revulsion, at least for me comes from like, oh, I'm, I'm, this is my, like, this is my failure to be, to, to imagine a better version of myself and just not eat meat. Like there's something deeper there for me. Yeah, you want anything, anytime meat has anything that separates it from the perfect chicken nugget, the completely contextually inert chicken nugget, as soon as you get any reminder, any little piece of gristle inside, that'll really remind you of your ethical failure. Yeah, oh yeah. Which I think it's maybe a little trite to overthink it, but it does come from a genuine place of like, oh, I can't do this. It's a propriety thing, I think. Well, this is why I think that if you're going to eat meat, you have to be a scientist about it. You have to be fascinated. this is cool. You have to think of like, oh, this part of the animal is still Yeah.
Speaker: It's still evil. yeah we But at least you can convince yourself that you're getting something other than just yumminess and nutrition. right It's just like, well, look, I can't be fascinated by... it's brain food. It's brainy to eat chicken feet. yeah This is how you this basically what I'm saying is go to the Chinese food market, get some chicken feet or pig's feet and eat them. And as you're doing it, go, huh, the animal used this to walk. Huh. This is very scientific.
Speaker: Right. That's what the indigenous peoples did. If you're eating balut, just say like, this could have been a real chicken. Eating tripe, being like, a game stop ah sheep used this to digest. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It wanted to. well Yeah. Yeah. this And then you can even be poetic about it. Just like, how interesting to have another stomach in my stomach. Wow. You can't say that about corn. No. you can you Oh wow, this was from the ground. Cool. I'm an idiot. I just eat shit from the ground like a fucking dummy.
Speaker: Like a dumb, dumb loser. It is so funny that like people's carnivorous guys who love to eat meat and like talk about how virtuous it is to like, you know, eat this sort of ancestral, this grounding ancestral hunting ritual of of meat eating. And it's just like, bro, you you're just a meat cuck. Someone got the food for you and you're you're munching on it and talking about how like how you're connected to your ancestors. If you just ate the kill in caveman days and didn't do any work for it, they would just cut your head off and eat you, be like, you're a drain. Yeah, we're going dave we're gonna inseminate yeah We're going to inseminate you to make human milk. Yeah. All right. Well, after using a carefully ah constructed private personality quiz for you, I think we're going to take a few of these. But let's let's start with this one because it really is so silly. I found a website that it's like quizzes that people make.
Speaker: Nice. Do you want to read it to me and give me the options? or you' okay Yes, based on based on what you were saying about him. You said silently taking it on the computer? Yeah, and me narrating you taking it. Oh, Patches has chosen the first option. His mouse is hovering around both of the first two options. So this is from a website called ProProfsQuizzes.
Speaker: It's community-submitted quizzes, and this quiz is called Murder Mystery Quiz. Can you solve these murder mysteries? Oh, cool. okay Now, feel free to not answer any of these questions and use them as an opportunity to just talk about whatever you want to talk about. Of course, yeah. But, you know, just know that these are solvable questions. At first glance, I was like, how could anyone get these? There's not enough information. But trust me when I say that the most talented detectives have solved this quiz 100 percent of the time. Here's your first question. Around 3 p.m., a man died in his own house.
Speaker: The next day, police asked each servant and victim's wife what they were doing when this happened. These were their statements. Gardener, I was watering the plants.
Speaker: Cook, I was making breakfast. Wife, i was watching cook I was watching a movie on my laptop. Who do you think is lying? was the cook. And why do you think it was the cook? 3 p.m., I'm making breakfast.
Speaker: Wow. I submitted cook and you were right. The cook wasn't making breakfast at 3 p.m. Yeah, there's no way. You really think it's impossible for a cook to be making? What if he's meal prepping? Well, that's what i that was my my was my my follow-up. was like He could have been meal prepping. Okay. Now...
Speaker: Would you hire someone to meal prep for you? that Meal prep eggs. yeah Could you simply make eggs for me for tomorrow? yeah um Yeah, I guess I could hire someone to meal prep. Could meal prep like a souffle for me? That's what I would want a chef to do.
Speaker: Could you just put eggs near this the stove for me? Right, yeah. Just get it get it all arranged so I can cook. That's what these that's what those guys want, though, too. That's what meal prepping should be, is just getting ingredients out. Yeah, right. yeah Well, that's what it is. That's the actual prep, really. Yeah. Then then after that, you're just eating're eating a meal without eating it. Yeah. That's what meal prep is. Oh, I did everything except eat it.
Speaker: All right. This kind of defeats the purpose of cooking, don't you think? Kind of stupid. what Now, why can't the gardener be lying? He's saying, i was watering the plants. well Surely that also could be a lie. right Well, that's what's interesting is like is um you know these these scenarios are always like it's contingent on, like like you don't have all the information, like you said. But it's supposed to be like, this is all this is all the information. Right.
Speaker: and And also like any other information you could assume, you throw out. So it stops being a, de it's and there's no deduction. like at ah it's it's It's one level deduction iceberg iceberg.
Speaker: This is why police detectives basically can construct reality like genies because whatever they put down in that handy-dandy notebook, right that becomes the primary source of reality. yeah If they forget to write something down in their notebook, oh well, oh yeah has vanished into the annals of history. Genuinely, i yeah the number of cases that have probably...
Speaker: Like whatever, like I'm sure some details are, first of all, there's police are doing the other thing that theyre that they do. But then there's sucking penises. And then there's like also like just details that like would be crucial to understanding the contours of the situation, maybe even the spirit of the people involved. Like, know what There's something just completely lost, and that's just translation. They need to put that amazing facial tracking, large language model data, the facial tracking that tells you what someone is feeling or thinking. Yes. I need all the vector points to be recorded in a database so that I can recreate it completely. And it needs to be fed into a hippie LLM that can tell you what someone's aura is. Yeah, I would love that. We'll tell you what their previous lives were, what their spirit animal is. That'd be amazing. When we were at the, so we went to the Ren Fair. For folks who didn't know, I went to the Ren Fair yesterday. Most people know. think so. But when we were there,
Speaker: we ah um my my wife went to a psychic. And she she pulls tarot, and I give her shit because I'll take tarot's bowl. And I'm a mystical person, but tarot is some bullshits. I hate to interrupt you, but isn't that the whole point of tarot? is well that It's not magic. It just gives you insight well right into your own feelings. Right. well And so that was the thing we she and I discussed because she met with this she did this thing with this psychic and she was afterwards, she was like, I don't really like seeing psychics because like it's kind of not for them. yeah They don't like...
Speaker: Like I pull tarot and then I learn about like myself, my day and what's going to happen. and And I have all the context of like how I feel about this, how real quote unquote this is or whatever. But then I get to like be the master of my own interpretation of it yeah then and then carry my life forward. Totally. But a psychic just sort of like is just jumping in and is just going like your people don't like treat you well. and This is when it comes to like...
Speaker: um exploring yourself or getting perspective on yourself. I guess, you know, that can't be true of therapy, but if you know enough ah about therapizing to therapize yourself, I reckon you should just do that until the wheels fall off and then start seeing a therapist. But you should really, if you, instead of seeing a therapist, especially if you can't afford one, just dedicate an hour every day to pretending to talk to a therapist because, yeah, I think that you know just just what you bring up about the tarot stuff, it reminds me of like how I feel about like BDSM. is like You might meet someone kinky, someone who likes to do freaky stuff, and you might thank your lucky stars that you found someone who's freaky and wants to try out freaky stuff. god
Speaker: Anytime you meet someone who's into that shit, they never hit the sweet spot that you want to hit. They always take it way too seriously or way too, they're way too freaky. Yeah. Well, they're not even close to as freaky as you want to be. And then you're not even getting along. You're just kind of like silently resenting the fact that you're not in 100% agreement about someone who wants to explore you like right You're just like, well, I know what I would want if I was interested in BDSM. I don't even identify as someone who wants to be that way. But if I did, i would know exactly what I would want to do. right so Well, this is like where kink and and and and these things are like, there's there's ah a conversation has to happen like in the actions of these things. And like when you're seeing a psychic for fucking like 30 minutes, there is no, there's no hope for that. right If you're with a BDSM partner and like you you develop that over time, you can learn each other's sort of like things. But yeah, like the first initial excitement of like, oh boy, she's going to do the Cleveland steamroller, which is what I like. um And ah instead, she does something different that she does look weird that it care about And like, you know, that's but you're right that like it is this like um it is similarly like hyper personal and like with therapy.
Speaker: It is definitely true that you should like just I was talking to a couple of friends of mine who like um one who like does therapy, one who's um like in therapy. ah We were talking though about like um how.
Speaker: Like there's always these blurry lines with therapy of like, you know, um ah there's like, like if you have a therapist who sees your whole family individually, that's different than having a family therapist. Right. And, and the, they could have different motivations that are, that, that are in the back of their mind. There's some ethics questions, right? It's like, if this therapist sees each individual member your family and your father, your mother's footing the bill. Tell. Right. Well, yeah. yeah You're just in a game. of risk. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like a game of risk with the lights off.
Speaker: And, and, and, and, but like at the same time, it's like, and we create these ethical, um, there's, there's the, the, the, um, what's it called? That's the word I'm looking for though. Like the, like, the, like,
Speaker: but professionalization the of therapy when like it used to just be like a fucking shaman. right like He did just know everybody's business. but like he guested Or But you would just talk to him and about what's going on and he would probably keep it to himself for the most part and move on. He also spoke in mysterious little poems. He didn't know what the fuck. He didn't make assumptions about the brain. you know This is why i feel like therapy... saying it's all worth it to like reflect first. yeah It's all part of that. yeah you know People say that it's hard to find a good therapist. Obviously, it should be because you're literally having a conversation with someone about reality and hoping that they understand you...
Speaker: in such a way as to actually give you helpful insight where you don't have to do 100 preliminary sessions before they even have a good guess of what to say that would be valuable to you. Now, if they spoke in weird, complicated riddles and poems and nodded for 10 minutes before saying a single word,
Speaker: You wouldn't need to see them for a million sessions. You wouldn't need to get them to get to know you. All they would do is just make an educated guess about you yeah and then without over explaining or they would just completely hedge and just say like, the frog that leaps easily eats. And the one that weeps sleeps. goodbye The one that sleeps eats. Goodbye. Goodbye. Yeah. And then the master vanishes from the disciple and the disciple wonders, was that even real? And that then before you know it, you're sleeping like a baby again. Well, it's a thing where it's like, um, uh, uh, uh, like that's why it's like, you might as well just reflect on it, right You might as well just like spend the time to reflect. You kind of know yourself. Like the utility of therapy within the like, like within broadly, extremely broadly speaking, like modernity is that like, There's enough sort of mechanisms in place to like trap you into certain like like really kind complicated personal and social rhythms that are like so hard to disentangle from like the way you make money, the way that you... um ah
Speaker: experience dignity, which is now important because like we can wipe and stuff. like so like so there's the therapist Therapist is supposed to be your escape hatch from those like things and that's like their utility. But to your point, like like I have been to therapists where i've I've been like, I just think you're fucking not cool.
Speaker: Like I think you're fucking lame and weird. I were to listen to anything that you say, I would actually lose dignity. Why am I talking to you? Because you have the degree and I don't? This is crazy. That's basically what it is. It should be something where it's somebody you actually think is like think is like It should be your dad. Pretty much. Yeah, it should be Papa. Yeah, almost every time. Yeah. yeah Okay, so... What's the next one? here's the Well, here's the context ah behind the last one. By the way, the wife said she was watching a movie on her laptop.
Speaker: Is that an alibi at all? Yeah, I've killed people while watching things on my laptop. Yeah. yeah I couldn't have done that. I was watching a movie. Yeah. ah A movie. Where? something yeah um a movie that Something that just completely inundates all of us and we we stop looking at our phones or doing other things. I watch a movie on my laptop while I'm doing dishes in the other room. Oh, yeah. I pause the movie and like forget about it and do the three other things. Yeah. Yeah. yeah For the last 380 days, I've been watching a movie on my laptop while going about the rest of my life. um So, yes, Patches, the murder occurred at 3 p.m. and the cook claimed to be making breakfast. Fuck. It raises suspicion due to the unusual timing for preparing breakfast. This inconsistency suggests that the cook may be lying or providing a misleading statement.
Speaker: In a detective or investigative context, such inconsistencies and alibis or statements can be significant clues that lead to further questioning and examination of the individual's involvement in the incident. Oh, this is ah um This is training to be a detective. Oh, because this pedagogical. Like, this is a, they're trying to teach me how to be a detective. Yes. Well, here's the... This is like, is this from, like, is this from the NYPD? This is really smart. I know. This shit is just so smart. It makes you so smart to use it. Yeah. Here's question number two. Okay. Inside a room, a man was murdered.
Speaker: Now, don't look ahead here. sorry I'm sorry. Police visited the murder spot, and they saw a man's dead body lying on the floor. The glass of the window was broken and pieces of the glass were there outside the room in the garden.
Speaker: Is it true that the murderer entered the room by breaking the glass of the window? mar but Patches, is it true that the murderer entered the room by breaking the glass of the window?
Speaker: Now, let me know if you need any clarifying questions here, but most detectives, they only get one shot at this. yeah they Once a detective looks at a room, they have to close their eyes. i mean, this this is what I'm more interested in. You have to close your eyes tightly and guess as to what happened. I like this idea of like, imagine the quiz is taking place in sort of ah it's like a dingy ah classroom. It's on like ah a shitty projector. They show you the room for one second. They turn it off and they go, now, where did he come in from? It's true that he entered through the window. What's true here? i mean We know it's no.
Speaker: right like um Because of the where the where the glass i guess where the glass is. The glass is outside the room in the garden. So you think, how could the glass get in there? right yeah i mean it's it also just This is just a crazy question. There's no way to really... I disagree. In fact, you're going to say... Am i wrong? Well, let's see. You say that it's true that he didn't enter the room. You think he exited the room through the window. No, um I don't know, I guess. But your guess is false.
Speaker: I guess We're picking false. yeah yours You know what the computer says? Correct. Nice. It's crazy. I mean, it's like... It's just because they're like, well, that's the thing. it's It's a funny quiz where it's like... You're telling me. ah I mean, it's funny to think about like detective work as like as like... Getting it right. well Well, right. And also just like, here's like a block of information and like find the funny detail. right Find the detail at a place. like like And it's it to signpost that as opposed to like...
Speaker: any kind of deduction, any kind of deductive thing work you do in your own life where you're like, I have like you're completely entirely possessed with self-doubt. I have no idea what's different about this or that. I'm actually just nervous now and I'm going to go to bed. Just get horny. basic Yeah, right. That's always what what's going on here. Am I picking up a vibe? Right. Oh, my God. but This person has one errant gray whisker coming out of their eyebrow. get I'm getting kind of turned getting kind of randy. Yep, and now you are a detective. Sorry, you got distracted by something that doesn't matter, which means that you're good at at finding clues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah
Speaker: All right. The broken glass pieces are found outside the room in the garden. It implies that the glass was broken from the inside out. This suggests the murderer exited the room by breaking the window. So in this scenario...
Speaker: What if you broke in the window and you just take the glass and put it outside after? That's what I would Here's what I think about broken glass. No one can see it. Glass is see-through. Just leave it. That's really true. The fact that broken glass is evidence at all is super suspicious Unless there's light.
Speaker: Because then light reflects it and then you can see it. That's been my experience with glass. Okay, so pro tip. If you have ever committed a crime that involves broken glass... is also for anybody who's in elementary school right now. Yes, exactly.
Speaker: So this podcast is for those two demos. If you've ever committed a crime that results in broken glass, turn the damn lights off. Turn it Because no one will see the glass. And even if they turn the lights on, you might get lucky because... ah Glass is usually completely transparent and the human eye can just ignore it, see right through it. Have you ever done glassblowing?
Speaker: No. I haven't either. I was wondering if you had because i was watching a guy do it at the Renaissance Fair. It seems cool. It looks really interesting to me and I like that it requires blowing to create glass. It has to, right? Yeah, right? It's a funny idea. it is a funny idea. And it's funny that, you know, that it's all coming from sand, right? Infinite sand. We're never going to run out of fucking glass. i don't think so, yeah.
Speaker: So in this scenario, the broken window and glass outside the room indicate a potential escape route for the murderer. The absence of broken glass inside the room suggests the murderer did not enter by breaking the window. Therefore, the conclusion that the murderer did not enter the room by breaking the window is supported by the... Okay, so I don't need to continue reading. Yeah, that's crazy. if you don't get that, kill yourself.
Speaker: Right, yeah. Glass outside the room means you left the room. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Patches. A lady was murdered on the road.
Speaker: Honestly, I feel like we could stop there. Isn't that all we need to know? We figured it out, right? Yeah. A lady was murdered on the road. Police suspected the lady's husband, brother, and father to be the murderer. The father. The father.
Speaker: Kind of what a father is. Yeah. Because you don't say, I fathed a child. No, you do. You say fathered. That's true. They sent a message to all three something like this.
Speaker: Quote, your wife slash sister slash daughter is murdered. Please come to the crime spot. Wait, wait, wait, sorry. Who sent... I missed... The police sent that to all three people. Is this entrapment? I don't know enough. I don't know either. i guess we'll find out. Okay.
Speaker: So they suspect the husband, brother, and father to be the murderer. They sent the message to all three something like this. Your wife slash sister slash daughter is murdered. Please come to the crime spot.
Speaker: Only the husband reached there. Who is the murderer? Brother and father, husband, or none?
Speaker: I don't know. You don't know either? i don't know what's going on. I guess none. Or, I mean, we don't know. Oh, you know what? I figured this out. What is it? It says, please come to the crime spot.
Speaker: How would they know which crime spot to go to? And the father went. It says, please come to the right crime spot. Only the husband reached there. So how would husband reach there if he didn't know crime spot?
Speaker: Well, does so husband must know crime spot, which means husband suspects crime. that he Or husband knows he did the crime. husband knows where crime was committed. Right. Only way he knows that is if his he didn't. Oh, that's funny.
Speaker: Wait, so here's the thing. So, m so she died. They don't know that that happened. The cops first thing they saw that she died and they said, identify who she is. Find out who her husband. Yeah. Yeah. Don't inform the family. Find out who her family is. We know this is this has familial written all over it. They saw the way she died and they just knew. Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, it's so it's it's probably just good practice for all police is as soon as you identify a corpse, take a picture of it, put it on social media and say, who this?
Speaker: Hey, if you killed this person, come here now. Then whoever comes is guilty. Right. Because they know where to go. yeah All right. yeah I'm to lock in husband. Sorry for answering this one you. you nailed it. But you were stumped. No, I was stumped like a goofy. The husband reaching the crime spot without the message specified in the location adds a layer of suspicion. Here's a more detailed explanation. I think Grok is writing these or something. because Really? Because they're a little bit too dense. Yeah. claw That could be a Claude thing. Claude is quite dense from my experience.
Speaker: um All right, five. During a murder investigation, a broken vase is found near the victim. What should the detective consider first?
Speaker: The value of the vase? Yes. The fingerprints on the vase? Oh, right. The origin of the vase or the placement of the vase? um Which first? I guess the fingerprints. I mean, you kind of work from there.
Speaker: You have to think about the value first. Why come? Because if it was an expensive vase, you could always repair it and get your money. You could get your money back. Right. And you could use that money to for to pay for all sorts of police technology, which help which could help to solve the the crime more expeditiously. And this is what the police should do, right?
Speaker: so like and And they're considering it based off of the value of the vase to understand how much it costs. So they're you're thinking that like the cost to repair it would not... would would Oh, this is interesting. yeah If it's a precious family museum-worthy heirloom. Well, it's like if I was a police officer and I saw this happen...
Speaker: I saw a dead body and I saw a broken vase. I think the first thing I would do is I would go, who killed this guy? Yeah. i mean It sounds like I'm going to get an answer on that. And then I would say, who broke this vase? And so then I would go to the fingerprints. But now I'm wondering...
Speaker: If it was a really cool vase and it looked expensive. Some some vases. Yeah. Let's just let's just cut the let's cut to the vase. Let's cut to the chase and call this fucking thing a vase. you do you have a good Do you have like ah a vase or a vase? that you like You know what's funny? I go to my my my family members' houses now. It sounds vague. But I mean that like I didn't notice like decor.
Speaker: And then like as I got older and like I had my own home and in one way and I was like, oh, I like when stuff's in it that I like. And then I start to see like things that I like really love. And I'm like, oh, that's like a really nice vase or vase. And now I don't I don't have one of those in my life. I have like a bit like do you have like any kind of like it's a really long road.
Speaker: Do I have a nice thing all? Yeah, like do you have like a nice thing that you're like, I didn't even know that like I would like this or I would care about this and then like I was struck by it or I remembered and like, like, you know what i mean? It's different than like, let me get a poster of a thing I like. Right. That's mostly what I have is like, ah you know, things that remind me of pop culture. Right. Yeah. Nodes. Things that like I like that are like spinning in my head all the time. Yeah, exactly. It's never like a physical fetish object. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's never anything I appreciate ah of its own accord. I don't know if I have anything that's classically nice that also that doesn't signify anything right by representing it through images. Like, ah I mean, I don't know. have like a music box?
Speaker: No, I mean, i got my girlfriend a music box, but it's the Basset Hound from Ghost in the Shell 2 Innocence. This is what happens. Yeah. This is what happens. It's all much, it's much more fun. It's always just a Japanese Well, that is kind true. Yeah. Anyway, so what's the answer here, by the way? The origin, the origin of the vase not right answer. think so at I'm just going to out on a limb here and say that who gives a fuck who made it? It doesn't matter. A vase is a vase as long as it's beautiful. It doesn't matter if it was made by Indonesian hands or Senegalan hands. And those are the two big ones.
Speaker: It doesn't matter if it was made by Kansan hands or Arkansan hands. Arkansan. Arkansan. I'm going to go ahead and agree with you that it's the fingerprints. Yes.
Speaker: And everyone at home knows what that sound means. Patches, I don't know how to tell you this. I hope you don't. I'm looking at how long it is. This is a note from one of our sponsors. I have to read this real quick. Fingerprints are one of the most crucial pieces of physical evidence in a murder investigation. Ha ha! They can directly link a suspect to the crime scene or the murder weapon.
Speaker: In this case, the detective... Sorry, I just have to get through this ad Okay, sorry. In this case, the detective should first consider the fingerprints on the vase. You want a beer? Yeah, sure. By examining the fingerprints, the detective can determine who handled the vase last, potentially identifying a suspect or witness... The value, origin, or placement of the vase might provide additional context or background information, but the fingerprints offer direct evidence that can be used to establish a connection between the suspect and the crime.
Speaker: If you want to get your own fingerprint collection kit, go online to proprofs.com slash quiz hyphen school slash story to, uh, well, I'm done. I'm done with that bit.
Speaker: And, you know,
Speaker: not like the movie. Like, did you like, Did I ever have a spy tool? Yeah, were you one of those? You know, i had I'm an only child. I just had two... You just had shit. I just had mommy and daddy. and What am I going to do, spy on them?
Speaker: That's true. All I'm going to do is catch them banging. Yeah. And I had already done that once. Oh, you did? And I was like, I think I get this. You're like, yeah I'm not going to make a habit over of walking in on my parents having sex because there's truly nothing to be derived from it other than um FOMO.
Speaker: Oh, for you, it was fun. You had that? Yeah. i i We used to do everything together. I watched them banging each other. I'm like guys, you forgot about your little boy. Yeah, where do I fit in here? You always say how much I mean to you. You always say that you'll never have another kid because if for me to have a sibling would represent a tragedy because you could never love them as much as you love me. What's all this privacy about? Why are you guys jumping on each other? You guys know I like horseplay too. Right, right. And you'd say it like that. Okay. I wasn't an only child, so i i um but my brother didn't really hide anything from me.
Speaker: i guess you could like see your parents wrapping your Christmas gifts. Yeah. Oh, did you ever find the Christmas gifts? Did you ever find them not really in the house? Not really. I didn't care to. Me neither. I really enjoyed the idea of not knowing. Yes, me too. I was very big on that. the only time i was gifted in that respect. yeah I was a gifted child because I knew it was better to anticipate a gift without spoiling it.
Speaker: Yeah, that does make you special. I i hated... um i didt i The one thing that did happen, though, is when I started to suspect... Santa's um unreality. I was perturbed and I i reached out as like ah as like a seven-year-old, like I called my cousin on the phone and I said, bring your Santa's, um what how they signed the cards. We're going to compare Santa's handwriting. So I was doing detective work in that way.
Speaker: And then I told my parents my plan and they're like, all right, you're like, Like basically you clearly care too much. I were literally remember them like just looking like kind of annoyed that I was like, not just that I was like interested in it, but that I was being like a little snarky little monkey about it. Yeah. um I remember my Jewish cousins and I stayed up all night to see if we could catch Santa ah flying through the sky. Right.
Speaker: And um I feel like I saw him one time. Yeah, we we just saw a blinking um transmission tower and kept getting confused by it. Are you sure that's not Santa? It's a red blinking light. I'm pretty sure Rudolph has something like that. That has to be what it is. But we got we all became so delirious that my Jewish cousins basically told me, like, by the way, because you're not Jewish, we can't really be cousins. And I was like, all right, I guess it's 4 a.m. m So you guys are just kind of at the end of your road. You're kind of done with you guys already know Santa isn't real. You're just doing this for my sake. That's sweet of them. I wish they didn't disown you after. No, no, we're all good now. That's amazing.
Speaker: um Okay. Now, this is a different quiz, Patches. I've lost my patience with the previous quiz. Right. Now, on this podcast, we like to talk about philosophy and ethics. Yep. So I'm going to ask you some really difficult questions. This question or this quiz is called, Are You an Evil Overlord?
Speaker: It was made in March of 2025. Here's your first question, Patches, if you're ready. And I don't want you to like lose out on career opportunities because you might be outed as evil.
Speaker: Um... So if you are not comfortable answering these questions, I can... It's not a matter of discomfort. I'm just like taking a second. um Okay. Let's do it. So that first question, are you an evil evil overlord? that is not the The quiz hasn't started yet. so you can know No, no. I'm not.
Speaker: Here's the first question, man. Instead of banishing your brother to another land, you would... um This is multiple choice, sorry. okay Your first option is destroy him or else he'll come back. They always will.
Speaker: Or why are we banishing him? Those are your two options. Now, why are we banishing him? Okay. Sorry, that's not that fun. I just i got upset thinking about that. Your reflection journey just began.
Speaker: That's what the website has told me after you so selected that answer. Really? Yeah. Here's question number two. You have a bomb. You started the countdown at um This is multiple choice. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. First prompting me. I literally am trying to answer it. like i we talking about this We talked about this at the top. I'm i'm doing it Fine. You give me your open ended answer and I'll see if I can find an answer that okay closely matches what's in your heart. Okay. i think like two hours. I want to.
Speaker: that's That's you not being necessarily evil overlord or like a pick-me pushover. Yeah, yeah. Two hours, fuck it. That's just enough time for everyone to get away and maybe a few stragglers get blown up And also like enough time for somebody to like... Put it out.
Speaker: And to convince me and to like discuss it with me and like... Two hours for you to have your mind changed. Well, you've seen movies, right? They're like that length. And so I'm like, okay, like... ah Blake, that's about all you have the patience for. yeah You set off the bomb and you're just like, you watch a movie on your phone. If anyone wants to get a hold of you, they can.
Speaker: You swipe the notifications. Swiping them up, getting rid of them. So you can watch Gone Girl while a bomb is... Okay, so you say two hours. I regret to inform you that there only two options. One is 30 set it off at 30.
Speaker: It doesn't specify what increment. And the other option is I don't start a countdown. i disable it. So I would say that you would probably go 30 and set it off at 30. I think so. Yeah, I kind of just copped to that. You don't even consider the idea that you don't have to set a countdown. Because it sounds like that I'm already doing it Yeah, you are.
Speaker: Oh, oh shit. Okay. And you've done it. Okay. Yeah, I did it. No. Okay. I get it now. Here's a really tough question. I skimmed this one earlier and it kind of, um, well, i I just want to let you know that this is probably the hardest one on the quiz.
Speaker: You say goodbye. Why? and they're not going to get me this time. Go ahead and answer it in your own words and I'll see if I can find an answer to that that fits. Okay. um i say good bye Why?
Speaker: ah i have to go. I've got something I have to i have to attend to Okay, so you would say because they left. That's probably an answer that kind of corresponds with your heart. I suppose, yeah. Because they left. That's why I say goodbye. Because one of us is leaving.
Speaker: it feels like you're going to trick me. No, the other option, Patches, was because I'm going to destroy them. Because I'm going to destroy them in a few seconds. So I think you picked a better option there. I mean, it's true the quiz is really true to its name, and that it is a purely binary... Am I an evil overlord? Yeah, this is also questions that they use to ah quiz police detectives in training. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, number four, describe your closet.
Speaker: m um So, thinking about, I have a i have a bunch of, um i have my shirts hung up and my pants are folded and they're in like little cupboards. And then I have- yeah shoes I do have a couple shoes. yeah Okay, so you would say clothes and shoes.
Speaker: Yeah, mostly. All right, i'm going to go ahead and pick clothes and shoes. Do you have any um bombs in your closet? I have a throwing axe. So no bombs. But no bombs. Okay, great. The two options were clothes and shoes. Or bombs. Bombs, bombs, and more bombs.
Speaker: That's crazy. I know. You'd have to be a fucking evil overlord to have that. Well, so this is... Okay. Actually, you know what? You know what? I just... Do you know what and what overlord means? Because I realize that I don't.
Speaker: someone Someone who has such ridiculous power. Right. Like, power that you can't even conceive of. Is it supposed to be, like, Germanic, like, Uber, like, Lord? Like, is there supposed to be, like, a... Is that the root?
Speaker: Like, root and root very loosely as far as we figured out that Uber mensch is that. Forget roots. Forget. Get roots. Overlords. We're all about stems and leaves and fruits. Overlords have completely uprooted out of the sort of human contract. I mean, imagine a lord. You know how much power lord has. They're in violation of the contract at this point.
Speaker: When I say lord, you must think of like, oh, a king or a Jesus something. Absolutely. Those are the two. Okay. Overlord. Imagine someone who's just, it's going over the top. That's outrageous. That's outrageous. We should kill these overlords, especially if they're evil. Yeah, because even if they're not, you're like, oh my god, power corrupts.
Speaker: Okay, here's my last question before we figure out if you're an evil overlord. Do you have any enemies? That's it? That's how long the quiz is? five questions. Do you have any enemies?
Speaker: So you would probably say, yes, everyone is my enemy. No, so I wouldn't say that. You would say some people, but I mostly have friends? That's closer to it, yeah. Okay. I'm sorry, I really had never, I had, it's been a long time since I've thought like. Yeah, sorry. i Okay, so you. Do I have an enemy? Do you have feel like you have enemies in your life?
Speaker: um And like, um this is ah it's an interesting thing to try to define. Let's sort of go out on conversation. Sorry, that's okay I'm sorry if you want to instead finish the quiz. No, that was the end. It's a good I just want let you know that you passed with flying colors. Really? Yeah. Even with that one answer but even with that one answer I would set off the bomb? Even with that one answer, yeah you did well. Okay. um It's an interesting question to to answer, you know, do you have enemies? I have people that I despise. Yeah. It's really hard to say whether or not they despise me back. Mm.
Speaker: You know, I think back when I was a kid... ah I definitely had enemies when a kid. But all my enemies when I was a kid were adults who also hated me. Really? I think it's easier to... I think you kind of do need a tremendous power or age gap to have an enemy. I don't think... You know, just like we were talking about with occultism right before this, I do think that a rival is different than an enemy. Sure.
Speaker: Someone that you're in competition with that you consider to be an equal, that's not an enemy. No, that's very enriching. But okay, so if an enemy is someone who's even in your peer group, I would probably so argue and say they're probably just a rival.
Speaker: Okay, that's fair. no yeah Rival suggests that there's like we have like mutual goals and only one can achieve it, I feel like. right like that's That's at least what it what it feels like to me. is like there's There's mutual desires or designs, the same telos, and it's just like there can only be one of us who does this. But an enemy is just like, I want to have a million dollars and this person wants me to have like a hundred dollars. Or like ten. This bastard. It gets worse every day.
Speaker: I, and I feel like I, I feel like when I was a kid, I had enemies, people who I felt like were like seeking to inflict misfortune on me in, and, and I think I was probably mostly wrong and that they were just like, I was probably extremely annoying and, um, or, you know, um, Most of the enemies that I've fomented throughout my life have been a result of me being quite annoyed. Yeah, just being like an annoying bastard ba batard prick little little little shithead. and like And sometimes it was because I was just very sensitive. And so I would determine that they were my... It was kind of more like like what you were describing where I would be like, you're my enemy. And they'd be like, I don't care. like yeah you know but it's because i don't think about you know at all. It was app Don Draper Elevator.
Speaker: Totally. And I was the um the boy in that. I haven't seen the show. the boy. Yeah, he looks young. I don't know. He looks like he might be like an intern. yeah And he's like, I feel bad for you. I'm the intern. Yeah, the paper boy. Yeah, right.
Speaker: Everyone's least favorite character in Mad Men is the paper boy. paper boy the elevator. X-ray, X-ray, that World War I has started. I know when it takes place. 60s. So you're right. World War I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. World War I's going to start. The Prussian Empire has fallen. Yeah. travel yeah Is that accurate?
Speaker: Uh, no, there was still pro show. I don't know. It doesn't matter, really, because Mad Men is something that you don't ever have to watch, I don't think. But I haven't seen it, so I don't know. People say it's really great. yeah I don't mean that in a derisive way. I was joking about not knowing when it's set. I'm actually on the last season right now. Are you actually? What do you think of it? Is it good? I do think it's a fabulous show. I think everyone's really right about it.
Speaker: um I don't know if I've said this on the podcast before, but I remember 2016, 2015 maybe,
Speaker: twenty fifteen maybe ah My roommate was showing me Men. Those are really different years, Pierce. Uh-huh. You're right. For really different reasons. But it was ah it was when Trump was campaigning. Yeah, yeah, I was a Bernie bro. But I remember watching Mad Men with my homie Jake, and we would smoke weed on the on the couch in Boston and just watch it together.
Speaker: And I remember, I think it was like episode four or five of season one where everyone in the office is being like, all the men are just being like really rude and misogynistic and ogling everyone. Ogling everyone and smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey and just being so cool.
Speaker: And I really remember thinking, because I was so high, and I had like the darkest thought ever. i was just like, I think I'm going to vote for Trump and not tell anyone. yeah I was like, this is awesome. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's beautiful. I really want to go back to this. It is like, you do see, it it is the... the the Well, it is. It's funny because I think I think what dispels that besides like having, you know, not being baked and being like, oh, I'm a I don't want normal. I'm normal. But is is I think something like and and my wife and I were talking about this is the like grab them by the pussy because we're just like, who the fuck says that? That's a crazy. Like and that's like the end result of it. Right. Of like of like Boys Club is like saying like and I grab them by the hoo-ha and like Yeah, it's like very it's like just very strange. And like you run you run out of like a runway on the like um like cool um Indian guy making machismo fucking posts on Instagram. you run garden memes Yeah, you run out of runway and it becomes like I'm just going to grab you. by your hoo-hoo, your pussy. Your hoo-ha. I guess what I, yeah, I think you're totally right. It's lame. Yeah, and it's this realization that you actually can never change culture by an election. And it's impossible for any one person to change culture at all. Like, it really is like ah a crazy hive mind organism. And if you want to go back to, like,
Speaker: Don Draper, cool guy, alcoholic, smoking inside, misogyny. you could just do that. Yeah, you can do it. You can do it. And then people would be like, hey, why are you acting like that? and you can just be like, ah because Trump is the president. It won't work. Hey, why are you driving on the other side of the road? um Because I've been to Britain. Yeah, because this is just any kind of like experience you've had, you could just take with you and place it another context. divorced from reality. i why are you ah
Speaker: ah Why are you trying to push this guy onto the train tracks? And it's like, because he bothered me. you could just do whatever you want. Because of the Samurai's code. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dishonored my sister.
Speaker: Well, I guess basically we figured out ah that you're not evil and that you're ah ah i might get okay you're like a mid detective. yeah um damn that's That's probably the worst outcome. now that you say you're not At least make me evil.
Speaker: At least that'd be interesting. You just described like, yeah, you're like not a bad guy. you're like oh You're a great detective. You got all those questions right. I got one of them pretty wrong. You got all the riddles right, man. Yeah, go on though. Sorry.
Speaker: ah No, just kind of wrapping it all up. Thanks for being a part of this emergency episode of Chamber of Reason. oh and We had to address the current events. Right. All this crazy stuff that's going on in the world. It's crazy we had to talk about it by way of, um you know, left-handedly acknowledging that there is there is something going on right now. if Yeah, I would say that, like, if you listened to this and didn't, like, pick up on that, like, you know. and Rewind it.
Speaker: Listen to it again. you'll You'll start to see. The clues. There are clues scattered throughout this episode. There's maybe a reason why we did a detective quiz. Yeah. Let's just say that. And if it doesn't make sense to you now, and it doesn't make sense to you on repeat listens, in future episodes, all of this will start coming together. If you listen to this more than once, and it still doesn't make sense, then that's fine.
Speaker: Just keep on listening to Chamber of Reason. Yes. Please listen Chamber of Reason.
