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Margo Tantau – Championing Creativity and Building a Modern Creative Community
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Margo Tantau is on a vibrant journey of reblooming, bringing her unmatched energy, vision, and passion to the creative world like never before. With over 30 years of experience in nearly every aspect of the creative industry, Margo began as a hands-on artist and evolved into roles as a designer, collaborator, and corporate innovator. From building her own magical retail business to developing sought-after wholesale product lines and mentoring thousands of students, her career is firmly rooted in artistic passion and purpose.
Margo is now bringing a fresh voice to the art licensing world with the founding of Tantau Studio, a creative agency dedicated to nurturing extraordinary talent from across the globe. She is passionate about connecting a curated roster of innovative artists with leading brands who share a love for exceptional design. Tantau Studio will deliver the unexpected, the delightful, and the commercially brilliant.
Beyond her agency, Margo thrives on empowering fellow visionaries. Through her Windowsill Chats podcast, dynamic workshops, consulting services, and her newest venture—The Foundry, a membership community for modern creatives—Margo continues to make a significant impact in the creative industry.
Her evolving ventures foster a dynamic, inclusive community where creatives can connect, flourish, and thrive. Don’t miss the latest episode of the ReBloom Podcast to hear how Margo is redefining the future of creativity and inspiring others to make a lasting impact through their artistry.
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Embracing Creativity and Joyful Living
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Do you have a dream that is a small seed of an idea and it's ready to sprout? Or are you in the workplace, weeds, and you need to bloom in a new creative way? Perhaps you're ready to embrace and grow a more vibrant, joyful, and authentic life. If you answered yes to any of these, you are ready to re-bloom.
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Welcome to the podcast where we have enlightening chats with nature lovers, makers, and artisans as they share inspiring stories about pivoting to a heart-centered passion. Hello, I'm Lori Siebert, and I am very curious to hear from friends and artisans about the creativity that blooms when you follow your heart.
Rebloom Podcast Overview
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And I'm Jamie Jamison, and I want to dig deep into the why behind each courageous leap of faith and walk through new heart-centered gardens.
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Each episode of Rebloom will be an in-depth conversation with guests who through self-discovery shifted to share their passions with the world.
Meet Margo: An Inspiring Creative Force
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Get ready to find your creative joy as we plant the seeds for you to Rebloom.
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Lori, I know that Margo is someone that you have known for a long time, but you are so right. She's someone that you meet and you listen to and you feel like she is the best friend that you've needed your whole life. That's just encouraging you. That's helping you to see your own inner beauty. And I I think that this path that she's on is so, well, some parts of it maybe were intentional, but it feels so intentional that she's ended up helping others. And she's going to be incredible. She's going to be incredible in this new endeavor. That's who she is. That sums her up. and
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I always tell her that's her superpower and she's like now like really embracing that superpower. So I think for our listeners, it's really maybe an exercise that um everyone could do is really think about who you are as a person and what drives you and what you're most passionate about. And like, for example, I'm doing these online um art classes with a friend of mine and i I first started out teaching what I like to do and I paint really loose and free, but she, I realized through talking with her that she likes things a more
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um a little more planned, a little more detailed, a little more neutral. And, you know, at first she was apologizing to me for that. And I said, no, no, that's that's who you are. And that's what makes you happy. And that's your authentic self. So I think the more people can get in touch with what their superpower is. Yeah. And then how they want to be in the world. And maybe how they want to serve people because I think I believe that when you find something where you're serving others that's also a time when the universe kind of steps up and moves that along for you.
Margo's Creative Journey and Influences
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That's just a belief of mine and I think that Margo is living proof of that. She sure is and what what a delight to have her as a guest and for our listeners what a treat and we hope that you will enjoy
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This very magical and joyful conversation with Margo. Thank you everyone. Well hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Rebloom. This episode is just going to be the best fun conversation and I can't wait.
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Hi, Lori. How are you? Hey, Jamie. So you've not met this friend of mine, so you're meeting her today. I am. This is my good friend Margo Tantal, who I've known for a, we said since the 1900s. long ago, but she's one of those people. She's a force in the world, in the creative community. When I very first met her, I don't know how long ago, the moment you meet Margo, you feel like you've known her forever.
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ah She has her own podcast called Windows Hill Chats. I've been on that a couple times and she's just, you know, she's one of the people that I didn't think I could be a podcaster because she's so good. at it I was like, I don't know if I can do this.
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But anyway, we have her with us today and we'll go through her journey and she has some pretty exciting things happening now. Hi Margo. Hi Margo. Hi guys. Thanks for having me. This is so fun to to be on the other side of the the questions, if you will.
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You know, it's that very often. i I think your sister interviewed you once, right? Didn't Shelly? She did. She did on my on my podcast. was like and Somebody needs to ask me questions, and who who can that be? People were wondering. I loved that, and I loved when you had your mom on your podcast, too. Oh, that's fine.
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yeah Speaking of your mom, take us back to your, what we do is we kind of go through the journey, but all keeping in mind sort of those pivot points in your life where things maybe took a turn because you needed them to or things happen that made them happen. So take us back to what what your childhood looked like. Way back. well Thanks, you guys. I grew up in Northern California um with a Midwestern mom and a California dad. So that was a good mix of of um all sorts of things. And my mom, I'd say they both were very creative. My dad um was an airline pilot growing up. So that provided its own wonderful adventures because that was before frequent flyers and airplanes being like Greyhound buses. So we were able to take advantage of
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of um going places for free, basically, as long as there was room on the plane. So i i've I say that like we went all over the place, but it just afforded a few nice trips in my childhood. And my mom was an interior designer. She she was a mom first. And then when we were ah Maybe I was just in high school and my sister was in junior high. She figured out um that she was gonna go back and be an interior designer, because she had a degree in that, but was momming up till then. And it was in ah San Francisco. We lived north of the city about an hour. um And she drove down there every week, and she had this just amazing knack, and I would love
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going with her to the showrooms and kind of just standing there. And she would, the all the fabrics and the wallpapers and stuff were on these big wings, these big metal wings, and you should flip through them. And she'd keep all her clients straight like she'd be, that's great for the Bex offers. And that's great for the Mondavi's. And we lived in the Napa Valley. So at the time, she was, the oh there were two.
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She was an interior designer, and there was one other lovely gentleman. and And it was a small town. It wasn't fancy. It was a small town. But there were people starting to make their mark, and they wanted cool offices. And she'd say, OK, I have to design this office for Free Mark Abbey. This is when I was in college. Why don't you design the rug? We're going to hand do a rug. I love how you draw.
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Why don't you design the rug? So I should throw stuff like that. Or this one, this church needs a stained glass window. Why don't you draw it? Okay.
Career Transitions and Creative Sparks
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I've never heard this part of the story. Were you artistic at this point? Were you taking art classes? always um I always was drawing growing up, um even more so lettering. i loved I took calligraphy and junior high. I remember this neighbor really was good at it and I took private
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to collect a few lessons from her. And so I was the kid that if a poster needed to be made, Margot will do it. or But it was, I mean, way before anything technical. So that's what I thought I was going to be. I thought I was going to be a graphic designer. That's what I um liked and was interested in. um But it was still, you know, I graduated high school. i In the 80s, 1980 counts, I graduated high school. And it was so it was still, well, I really wanted to go to art school. Really, really, really did. In England, that was my goal. And dad's like, nope. How about, or my parents, I should say, I think you should have a well-rounded career. It was that time where you should maybe have a business degree or a marketing degree. And then the creative stuff can,
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be a part of that. yep and And I had seen, I had grown up with an interior designer and thought, I don't think I want to do that. She's a psychologist. She's a she's a nurse. She's like, she took calls through and through dinner. Like I just, it seemed like,
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too much personal effort for me. I mean, not personal. I mean, like person to person. She was caretaker. She's an excellent caretaker. She's so good at that. And I just was like, I don't think I want to be in. I loved the product side of it. Not as much the the personality or the connection. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to be a little further removed. So when I went to school, I applied into a ah I play a teacher. That's what I was. I was like, okay, I'll be a teacher if I'm supposed to have a well-rounded degree. And I took like- Were you Were you going to be an art teacher? Or just maybe general studies? Elementary school, I think. Oh, fine. Because I student taught in fifth grade. They're so cute. And I taught them art, of course. um But then when I got in there to teaching classes,
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Oh, my God, the most boring thing I've ever sat through in my life. It just I couldn't do it. So I switched immediately to graphic design and then they dropped the graphic design course in where I went to school. But there was a very still a very strong design department, art department with very cool teachers. It was close enough to San Francisco. It was UC Davis that I had there were working professionals there. And this this is where um the story of the fact that I had Wayne Tebow as a teacher, but the class was at eight o'clock because it was too early. Yeah. wait well So, you know, I've, I've found my way.
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um Oh my god. I know. The things, like, oh no, I don't want to get up this early. The things if you could go back and talk to your 19-year-old eight year old. I can remember standing at Um, the easel, like, early on, like, class one or two, and him coming up and being the nicest, quiet, soft-spoken guy, and I was like, I don't want to do this. Oh.
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It's kind of like when I went to France when I was 16, we had we got to pick whether we wanted to go to the Louvre or the pizza penis. And I went to the pizza parlor. Of course he did. Of course he did. And looked at boys. Well, French pizza. Got to try it. You probably still remember the pizza, though. So, you know, the story is good for sure. Yeah.
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Oh, man. Yeah, I um then I went. So it's like I graduated with what am I going to do? I knew ah ah a little about a lot of creative things. And ah since it was a well-rounded education, I knew a little about marketing and a little about, yeah you know, botany and a little about a lot about football. And um so I went to work interior design showrooms because that's what I knew. That's what my mom did. I had I had been in them for years and That was my introduction to working with with interior designers, with product, but at more of the product side. And and there was this oh there was this one gal, her name was Daphne.
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daphne tyson I don't know where that came out of my brain, but she had a line of fabric that she was having made in India. who Like she figured it out herself. And I just thought that was the coolest thing. So um anyway, that's where I started. And I've done a lot, a lot of things, but floral.
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Also, I ended up, when I first got into my own product, um I had, I don't want to take too much time telling all this stuff, but I'd gone to New York to work for Pierre Deux, when it was still owned by the two peers, because I'd worked for them in San Francisco after the showrooms, because that, anyway, um I worked for the 49ers and Pierre Deux at the same time. Oh my gosh. Yeah. What a mix. That's another story. but um I came back from New York. They appeared to have sold and I, they wanted, anyway, I didn't want to stay working for people I didn't um see eye to eye with. And I came back and worked at ah my friend's Stephanie's floral shop, flower shop, and would get up at two o'clock and go to the flower market. But it was very quiet because it was in a quiet part of San Francisco um on Potrero Hill. And there was this floral wire there.
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I'm looking around me because I feel like I had something wire near me, but I just I started. making things with the wire in 3D. The first thing I made was like a little espresso cup and a saucer cause I was bored. Nobody was coming in. There was wire and pliers. So I was making this stuff. And I remember Stephanie was out to lunch or running an errand and she came back and I had made these wire chairs. Cause of course my brain goes to home decor usually. i made yeah yeah I made this chair and she came in and she was like, I love that so much. We have to put a price tag on it and sell it. And I was like,
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What? It is twisted bent crooked wire, probably cost 24 cents. Boredom out of boredom. but um The first person who walked in the shop bought it. That's amazing. trump ninety cents That's amazing.
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Your legs score. So long story long, I ended up being represented by a wholesale, a very well-known wholesale showroom in LA because he happened into the flower shop and convinced me to make several. So that was my foray into wholesaling. If you make a product, but a small batch and that led to everything else I've done.
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But I know that part of the story is that once you got into having to make a bunch of them, then maybe it was time for a pivot. Is that correct? There's a big pivot there. i um Yes, good lead in. I sat at a card table.
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in my mom's living room for a while in my living room and made those things. And I would get the orders and it would look great. It's like $12,000 worth of wire chairs. How cool. And then I'd have to make $12,000 worth of wire chairs at $25 each wholesale. And um that was not very fun.
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Yeah, it gave me a really good window into when you when you lose your creative spark, ah when you loved doing something and and because of, ah you know, all the things that line up he and you have to it has to be a business, then it's not necessarily as fun. So I really wanted to figure out how things were made. um And I um tried to hire local women to help. um And that didn't really work until I found somebody to help me that was highly creative. She was a ceramicist, she was a potter, and she could nail it. um So then I could create these, but it still wasn't
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they're still all being touched. And I knew I at that time um was knocked off by two guys that had that i had a factory in Mexico. And they they, I was like, okay, they're doing it. How do I figure that out? So um I had a neighbor who who worked with, he made baskets. His company was a basket company. And he said, why don't I take your,
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Actually, why don't you make wire bugs for me? I'm gonna, you make them out of wire. I'm gonna take them down to this factory in Vietnam, I think it was. And we're gonna have the wings solid metal and we'll paint the wings. And you're gonna get 3%, which sounded like amazing to me. Because you didn't have to make them yourself. Because I didn't have to make them myself. So I, they they did, they made these really cool wire bugs.
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bigger than I would have made myself and painted and all this stuff. And i my licensing, my fee for those bugs was $4,000. And with that $4,000, my friend Aaron Foster and myself,
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rented a showroom in Atlanta, and I said, I know, i if Gary, the guy who found me and did and sold my chairs, can do it, I can do this too. I don't wanna be making these things myself. The pivot is, I want to help other people that are making, trying to figure out how to get their own things out into the world. I'm
Building Creative Communities and Showrooms
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gonna have a showroom with Aaron, we were gonna have a showroom, we called it Relish, um that,
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ah represents represents artists and makers that are trying to get their work out there, but they're so busy making in the work, they don't know how to do that part. And I have, I had figured it out by that time.
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So there. So I have a question about that. yeah That feels to me knowing you because I know one of your superpowers and your true loves is supporting artists and helping them to get to where they want to go and realize their dreams. So that seems like the first time where you were you were heading that direction. Where do you think that comes from? Like, were you always that kind of a person that That's a great question. You look at other artists or or always a connector like ah or always a community oriented. Were you always that way? I think it comes from my good Midwestern mama um who and my grandmother to her mom was always oh my gosh, she she didn't go past eighth grade in school and she always thought that held her back and
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Oh my gosh, she just was the Pied Piper. She was always giving to others. She was always always doing that. My mom did that. And I just it's just part of um I just love people. And my literal favorite thing to do is help somebody get further than they knew they could get on their own. ones I just love that. Why wouldn't I'm not doing the work, you're doing the work, you know? But it's so fun to be part of the process, you know? And in turn, I get to, I am doing the work, you know?
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you are. but And you know, I think though, but and that seems so much like what we do now, but but the eighty s back you know in women were not quite as supportive of one another back then. i I think it was really a lot tougher, and I think that that is a very forward-thinking idea to help others and I know we when we've talked to other guests, we realize the more you connect, the more you give, the more you grow. I mean, it's better for, but that wasn't the thinking back then. So you were you were ahead of the time back then, I do think. Well, thanks. I think, yes, and a woman's role in the community, if you go
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back you know laura engels wild mrs wilder but know hurry lady no But you know we were supposed to gather and help. And I think of quilting, do they call them quilting? beat that When the women all sat around the quilting frame. And but yeah know and you're encouraging. There's something too about the creative community being very kind to each other. I think overall, we're very supportive of each other because
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One of the things I learned, I skipped a big chunk, which is my mom and I had a retail store in the middle of that. So we really were... were um people would come in and say, how i'm a I'm an artist, how do I get my work into your store? And and we would we would say, oh gosh, well, it's not quite ready yet, but what if you do this, this or this? So that was a real training ground to kind of, because I had been that artist too, to kind of see how that would work. And I'm still in touch with some of those people who that's what their career is. But um I think
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I was going somewhere with that. It's that creative community. and connecting yeah yeah community oh I think that's what I was going to say. Oh, because when then when we had relish, you realize you're you're kind of head down running this business and helping people. But when you go to a gift show back then, you would set your booth up.
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next to and across from other people who are really going through the same things with a different product. And so you get you make these fantastic friends in the industry because you can relate to it. And I think that's where we are now in the in the online space and why things like um Creative Challenges are so cool because We're all trying to just find a way to, you know, be creative every day. what Call it what you will. Maybe it's make it a business. Maybe it's be creative every day. Maybe it's be in community. But we're supporting each other in that process.
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and who And it does feel kind most of the time. which i I would totally agree with that. I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah. I've really, in all the groups that I've taught, i I don't encounter anyone that's mean. I mean, everybody's just cheering each other on and supporting one another. And we sure need that. We sure need more of that. We do. And I'm seeing so much of it online now, like people are just, you know,
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We're all about kindness, all about creativity, all about community. And I think you've always embodied those things thanks in everything that you've done.
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and so So then you I know you went down the whole licensing product development path. Yeah, my next big pivot was I have i love all these small companies that I'm helping. We're still making all this stuff by hand. i i I'm so curious about manufacturing and i'm not I really didn't want to invest in that myself. We did. we we Aaron and I had a lighting line and we had a bedding line along the way, but it was this,
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big cloud of curiosity that I had about overseas manufacturing, like China, India, Vietnam, whatever wherever it was happening. It just seemed so far out of reach for me to figure out myself. And I didn't really, it just seemed expensive as well. So um that's when I, ah we sold our company um and I went and worked for,
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a company that was manufacturing overseas more than one. But that was my first start into that. And it was so interesting to be to be so interested in the process and then go see. I i think I used to think that I don't know.
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It was all machines. like You spit an idea into the machine, and it comes out as a product. Well, no, it's all people. People are touching every single thing over there, um wherever it's being made, here, there, anywhere. But how how does that work? you know And how do you how do you become a teaching product development person instead of a following? you know Hey, ceramic factory in Dejua.
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You have beautiful sculptors. Can you sculpt this thing this way for me? Or do I need to buy the mug that looks like it came from a diner, you know? Can I have them more by hand? like These are all the things all over the, I mean, so many thousands of products came after I stepped into that.
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world. um And it was really, really fascinating. The thing is, I was an entrepreneur, and I really like making my own decisions. And and when you go into corporate, that that goes away. Let's take a quick minute and thank our amazing sponsors. Our podcast is proudly brought to you today by Jet Creative and Urban Stems. Jet Creative is a women-owned marketing firm committed to community and empowerment since 2013.
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Did you find that a lot of the factories um appreciated and liked being pushed? Because I remember I used, so I'm also a graphic designer and going like I would push the printers to print certain ways that were kind of challenging or different or new and they would get as proud of it in the end.
00:27:48
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because they, you know, you're doing it same old, same old all the time. And then someone like you who, you know, challenges the norm and pushes them a little further, you're sometimes going to get pushed back. But sometimes they'll be like, wow, that opens new worlds for them, too. I love that you called that out because yes, it was because really everybody in there is creative. Most of them. I mean, some are The people in charge are usually businessmen, once in a while a woman, but usually businessmen with a plan. But they they see that we're all growing together, right? And yes, there was there is an especially creative factory. um I used to think of it as Willy Wonka, because it it was just magical.
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not um not like Chocolate Rivers, but ah it was very rudimentary. like I think things were held to together with rubber bands, but the people in there were so willing and you knew it was always the hardest day because you were really trying, you were pushing it the most there. And so sometimes it would take a while and you'd go away and come back with a change and go away and come back. And every once in a while they'd let you down to the like work tables and you'd be like, let me just show you what I mean. And at the end, everybody was so, because there their thinking's broadening. My thinking's broadening by what by the skills they're bringing to it.
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ah So rewarding, so fun, challenging for sure, but really rewarding in the end because you're putting something out into the world that hasn't been there before, it or it or the technique isn't... isn't done. Very simple example. and We worked with an artist that that made these wonderful paper mache figures, and they had this crumpled, um beautiful ribbon around their necks. And the factory was
00:29:54
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hand-dyeing ribbon and then hanging it, they showed me. They're like, no, we dry it this way, like on a noodle dryer. you know So it's hanging like noodles. So it dries perfectly straight. And I was like, okay, take them off the noodle dryer, throw them in a pile, dry them that way. And they're like, oh, okay. And it just made such a difference. Those little tiny things, but it's like prop creative problem solving the whole time.
00:30:19
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Love that. So you must have loved because again, you love working with artists. You are also working and licensing a lot of different artists and working hand in hand with them. Yes. Which is another part. I know where you're headed now. So I'm just kind of, yeah you know, you're again picking up the seeds along the way, heading you to something that I know you've always wanted to do. But in between. um So you were doing licensing product development, but then you started the podcast and the Patreon. And that's when I really I felt like you were really embracing your superpowers. How do you feel? Thanks. I agree. i I feel like the further I got away from.
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um products that really lit me up and I mean I always worked with very well not always but when I was making the choices I worked with people I really loved like the um last full-time job I had was um ah with a fantastic company that's no longer in business anymore And they it was a company that always worked for artists worked with artists and and had great integrity. So that was always important to me. And and that was kind of if that went away with a company, then I would probably have to go away too.
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So I thought, well, like, do I look again for, since they went out of business, do I do this like again? You know, what, what next? And I have always had freelance things that I did, but the podcast, we're all sitting at home because it was COVID. I've, the podcast is four, mine is four years old. um And I thought I have all these interesting, super cool friends I've met along the way. We're bored. We're at home. Why don't, why don't I start talking to people?
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And I was in a little um mastermind mentoring group and one of the gals in there gave me a, she's like, okay, you've been I keep hearing you talking about this.
Podcasting and Sharing Stories in COVID Era
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I'm giving you a date. Like, when are you gonna start this? So, you know, I was pushed a little bit and just started and and haven't looked back. it's I really, I think I've recorded 250 some episodes over four years and there are conversations that I haven't missed a week.
00:32:53
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um I just love who people are. I'm so curious about people and their paths. And ah people sometimes people will say, oh gosh, I'm a little nervous to talk to you. And I'm like, we're just sitting down. like Like we just met at the coffee shop and I just want to know who you are. And we have the best time no matter what.
00:33:11
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Well, I think that's partially your personality, too, because yeah you can tell. I think Lori and I feel that way. I mean, it was what you do sometimes you need that little bit of a nudge. We got a nudge last year to start this. And, OK, Lori and I were just patting ourselves on the back that we've done almost 20, not 200. But you'll get there and you'll be like, look what we've done. Look what you've done, 20. 20 is. Yeah.
00:33:38
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Two is huge. I mean, because you there's so much to figure out and and wrap your head around and talk yourself into if you're having yeah whatever kind of you know thoughts about, can I do this? 20, you guys, that's so great. And you have such interesting people.
00:33:55
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Yeah, that's what's been fun. I mean, I tell Jamie, I was the reluctant podcaster because I was away on a trip and I came home and she, we have a little mastermind group and they said, you need to do this. And she said, or we're doing a podcast. I'm like, what? But you know, we we've done it. And I think the beauty of it, you know, much like you Margot, Lori and I are both connectors too. We're both big supporters of everyone, our friends that we meet and how can we make this person know that person or support them or help them to grow.
00:34:31
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And that's always been a part of who we are as well. And so and that's what we found. We're like, look, there are some great stories like yours to tell. Let's let's share those with people. And this has been the best, best pivot that we've I know that I've made. It's just fabulous. So it's super fun. I mean, once we get over every time we we put rev up to do one, we're like,
00:34:56
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I can't hear you Jamie. I can't like, you know, we always have these crazy, we were just recording and Jamie had a delivery guy coming in and out of her driveway and a bell was dinging and we're like, we just have to laugh because you know human That's the best. and I think one thing that I would probably like to share with listeners is you doesn't it doesn't have to be perfect. I think that's what stops a lot of people from making a change or starting something or whatever. They have it in their head that it's got to be perfect and it's got to be a certain way. and
00:35:33
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you just You just start somewhere and then you know you you learn, you dive in, you get a little more confidence and you just you keep learning and growing. and yeah start You start with a wire chair that you're making just for fun. you start and Because no one's watching you and no one's judging you and then it's sold and then you kind of go from there but I think people don't even make the wire chair or they don't even or they don't put it out on the shelf for sure. Right. Right. It's like, look, no one's and and someone who's I teach social media and I'm on there and people are like, I'm so afraid to put myself out there. I'm like, OK, please don't take this the wrong way. But you have 12 followers. No one's going to see what you're doing. Just put it out there.
00:36:22
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Like we all need to start somewhere. And if you're afraid, then keep it on private for a while. But I think that also goes with your creativity. You can keep it private. You don't have to show it to everybody. Journal. Do things that are for you. But it's amazing when you do put yourself out there or when you connect with other people, as you've done, Margo, how big your world becomes and how beautiful your world becomes.
00:36:47
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It's true. it's that's i I have a question for you, Jamie. let me Let me see how I want to frame this. And I have a couple of thoughts for both of you. So as a person that I don't have any trouble, I'm so much better at selling other people than selling myself. It's always been that way. like That's why I started a showroom and ah and a retail store where I'm selling your stuff, not mine, because I don't have to talk about myself. I get to talk about you all day. And I find,
00:37:17
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I know the recipe is, it the more you put yourself out there, and Lori, so many kudos to you for this, because I feel like our very first podcast, when you and Kenzie were on, you're like, I'm going to start to put myself out there. You are so good at it. You just show up. and i completely, ah i am I can't tell you how many times, like, I'm gonna go live today, six days later. Oh, those six days I was gonna go live. And i like I just, I freeze up when I'm like, I'm not talking to anybody. I'm talking i'm just myself, like, and any advice?
00:37:55
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Yeah. Just do it. Just do it. Just start. Just yeah and do Like, I hi, the grass is green, the sky is blue. I don't know, you know. But I think you already do it in ah in a way. I mean, i I had to reframe. Like, one time I was doing a signing for one of the companies and I was just, I was really nervous about it. And whenever I feel that way, I always kind of turn it around and think,
00:38:22
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OK, I'm going to make it about all the people that stand in line and want to get that thing signed and learn about them and figure out what I can give to them. And same with teaching. When I first started doing retreats, I was like, I'm not a t like I'm not really a teacher. I'm a hack at everything. But I'm like, OK, I'm going to tell I'm going to be a fun facilitator and I just figure out what I can give to people. I'm writing that down. Fun facilitator. I like that. And I feel like you already have, you're already sharing so much that serve others. That if you're, if you're framing it when you're on there live or whatever, and it's not really about you and about selling, but about how you're serving them, that's a good one. It makes it a lot easier.
00:39:14
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It does, and ah you know i ti um I taught public speaking for years, and I would always tell my students, you have more cheerleaders out in the audience than you do critics. Everybody wants to see and feel you do well. So they're actually sitting or listening to you cheering you on, not being hypercritical of you. I think we're hypercritical of ourselves. But I think when you just say, hey, these are the people who know me, who love me, who trust me, and I'm just going to share a little piece of me with them, then you're just sharing your your heart. And I think people tend to be very, I think when you know there's you're being met with joy, then you can share your joy.
00:40:02
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you know The other thing that I've told a few people about the way I view Instagram, because that's really mostly where I show up, is that I think of it as my visual journal. yeah hey you know I partly do it to share things that I think are interesting or could be interesting to other people, but it's also things that are lighting me up and I'm curious about because I love going back into my feed and just like it's my journal.
00:40:29
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So i I often thought if I ever lost my, you know, like you did recently, lost your Instagram, I would be less sad about losing the following than I would like having that kind of content ah content and being able to go back and look at, you know, that vacation reel I did a year or two and see my little grandsons when they were little making crafts on the beach or whatever. so I kind of think of it that way, so it's not polished. It's more just, that's what it is. It's my visual journal and people relate to some of it, not all of it, but... It's all right. We're not all the same. We're not all the same. Such good points. I love what you said, Jamie, too. If you're being met with joy, you can share your joy. Yeah. And just a visual journal.
00:41:22
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It is. And and when i the other thing that I love to teach, and I think this helps people, is that Instagram or social media and your website and everything is really about know, like, and trust. And really, if you think of Instagram or most social media, it's like a wave from your front porch. All you're doing is just giving them a wave. Hey, how are you? Just get to know me a little bit.
00:41:47
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And then you pull them in a little bit to your house, which might be your website, and that's where they get to to like you a little bit more. And then maybe then you send out newsletters and things and that's where they begin to trust you. And that's like your kitchen table where you have a big, deep conversation.
00:42:02
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So if you think about it, it's just a wave. It's just a, hey, here I am. Here's what I'm all about. Here's what I'm doing. And then I think it's it may it takes that pressure off of you. Yeah, I do. I do. I look back to the early days of Instagram where I love looking back because I really use it as almost a daily diary. And I have such fun pictures of whatever we were doing at the time. And then it became you know, it should look this way, or it should do that, and or or we just...
00:42:34
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but Stories became that way for me more than my feet and i this is just a great reminder just to go back to Nobody cares, you know like come back to your heart. Yeah, exactly exactly and I think that goes back to why we all three of us do what we do is that We don't want to do it like anybody else has we want to do it with the experience we bring to the table and the curiosity that lies within us always. Right. Absolutely. Exactly. So I want to move on to your latest pivot, which is so exciting. And you've talked about this for years. And I feel like... Since the 1900s. No, you yeah. but Like 1980s.
00:43:21
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The stars have all aligned to make this happen, which is just so cool. So you want to talk about it? Sure. So, um.
00:43:33
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OK, there's kind of a dual track. But since for I look back at the notes I've made along the way, and I have ah i did a course, kind of it was a personal branding course or something like that, way back in 2014. And i I did a whole exercise of what my brand values were and and what I wanted to do and where I saw myself. And one of the things I put then was a podcast.
00:44:00
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That was 2014. I put a membership that was a place for creatives to gather that didn't didn't have to be tied to anything. Didn't have to be you have to take this class first or you have to be at a certain level. It's come as you are. Bring your curiosity. Bring your true self.
00:44:20
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that So that was 10 years ago. And all along the way, I've either been asked or thought about um being having a licensing agency.
00:44:34
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because um i would I teach online as well. So I would have people come through my class or I would see their product in my shirt, whatever it was, right? Because I did represent artists, right, for a time in a different way. I would see somebody's work and think, oh my gosh, like the world needs to see this, how I need to start an agency so so I can get this in front of more people. And and I would have another job at the time or Mainly, I was like, how do I do this all by
From Licensing to Tantow Studio: A New Direction
00:45:07
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myself? this was you know We've learned a lot about virtual assistants and there's so many ways to get help. And so I would have this conversation with friends along the way and decide not to. And one of the things that um
00:45:22
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stop me a bit is I like to feel very prepared. Well, here we go. I'm gonna contradict myself and then contradict myself again. I like to feel very prepared, but I also don't don't like to be prepared. I like to um let curiosity drive. But if if people are counting on me, like say I started an agency and I said, hey, come along, we're gonna do this thing.
00:45:47
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Well, when i when we started Relish, I kind of knew how to do that. And I felt like today, if I started a licensing agency, yes, I have contacts in the industry, but I have not been nurturing those creative director contacts.
00:46:02
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um as broadly as I would have liked to, to have started an agency from scratch. And now we don't have, say, a surtex, which is the show where you used to be able to set up a table and people would walk by and you could trip them in the aisles and get their business. So it's just like, huh, how do I do that?
00:46:20
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And I knew I could, um but I just hadn't stopped long enough, right? um Back in 2012, there was a licensing agent, very well known, um who I've taught with for 10 years now. Her name's Lilla Rogers. And she I remember saying to her, Lilla, I think I want to start an agency, and I think you're my only competition. And we laughed about that. And she's like, you should. the It's a big pie. You should do it.
00:46:50
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I just want to remind you there's a lot of paperwork. Oh, God. you know And it was just me. like I had i don't didn't know how to kind of get the help I needed at that point. It wasn't as set up as it is now. So fast forward. I'm building this beautiful membership called The Foundry that I'm so proud of for artists over taking me a year. So that's in the works. Then Lilla Rogers, who I just spoke of,
00:47:19
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um who had just an amazing agency and um came very highly respected. And I've worked with, in the jobs I've had, I've worked with countless creative agencies. So I had an opinion of what I liked and what I wasn't as fond of. She announced, two of my friends sent me a text saying, did you see Lilla is closing her agency? And I was like,
00:47:44
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What? like That's like Sears closing. You never think it's going to happen. So ah I called her right away. And I just i was I remember exactly where I was. I was at my sister's house for some reason. And and um this wasn't that long ago. It's just a couple of months ago. And I was like, OK, I don't even know what this means, but I need to call her. So.
00:48:07
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without going into all the details. We mutually decided that she was like, I don't really have anybody to take it over. We knew each other well. And I i was like, well, I've kind of didn't want to start one unless. So what I'm inheriting and have um ah ah struck a deal with her for is the inner workings of the Lilla Rogers licensing agency will turn into Tantow Studio.
00:48:37
Speaker
mind blowing. Yeah. So I'm finally gonna do officially what I've been doing for years um with an amazing team of probably 20. I wanted to keep it a little smaller, but there's so many people that I love their work way more than I could do right now. And as we grow, well, I'll look at what that means. But right now I have um nine of Lilla's artists that have come along and I have nine or 10 very favorite people and or people I have worked with. I'll talk about that in a second.
00:49:16
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And I have just launched, the website's not even quite finished yet. It's a landing page, a holding, like coming soon, but it shows who ah the artists are. And I am like, I'm sitting down right now, but inside I'm jumping up and down. I'm so excited about this. I'm just so, it just, everything has led to this. And I know it's what I'll do for the rest of my life. I just, i I'm so excited to do it.
00:49:46
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in the same way that I've approached everything else. With so much joy and love and care for the people I'm working with, for the clients I'm working with, and for how to approach it in a way that feels different, that feels driven by each artist in the agency and what their goals are, not what my goals are, what their goals are and how that aligns for all of us, how that aligns for the clients we're getting. I just, I can't wait.
00:50:15
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It's amazing. So I just feel like everything is lit up to this. It's so cool to watch. It's just, you you know, that's what happens sometimes again. ah You know, I bring this up almost in every, every episode, but we all go through this journey of life picking up these things that make us who we are and hopefully at some point along the journey we culminate all of that into something that's really really authentically
00:50:52
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who we are meant to be and what we're how we're meant to serve on this earth. I feel like you're that's all coming together for you. It's really cool. Thank you. Authentically bright is exactly how it feels.
00:51:08
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it Yeah, I mean you have you have, you know, I'll take it back because I love my flowers or love my garden and the foundation. But if you take, if you have that beautiful rich soil that you're growing something and you plant the seeds and they're good seeds and then you water them along the way.
00:51:26
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then you are going to have that beautiful garden. And, you know, yeah, there's going to be some hot sunny days that aren't so great, maybe a little wind and a little little snow in my area. um But, you know, we do rebloom and we do, um I think if you nurture what it has been given to you all along and it's So beautiful to see the gifts that you have had at each stage and how they've all led to this, which continues in you connecting and supporting and sharing joy, not only your own joy, but the authentic joy of fellow artisans. And that is a win-win for this world right now. That is a win-win. Yes. I just had this visual of
00:52:15
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Little Margo has her basket as a little girl and she's going through life and yeah, she's getting older. She's adding, you know, some product design expertise into her basket and now some licensing expertise and all of her contacts, like all of this into her basket from her garden and then now putting it all together into this new venture.
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah. It's true. And the very cool thing is, is because at the same time I've launched a membership for anyone who wants to be involved. Right. It's the all ends of the spectrum. I am not just an exclusive agency with a small amount of people. I am i am opening up the the you know kind of knowledge that I have to and you know and creating a space for people to interact with each other and learn from each other.
00:53:24
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at the same time. And it and it's like, that was gonna happen anyway. But to be able to bookend it with this very solid, very rich soil, there this has been, you know, cultivating for a long time, it's just it just makes sense. Like I'm not, yes, I teach online, but teaching classes on how to, you know, make a wire chair is not what I'm gonna do. I'm more, how do I help you get from,
00:53:52
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A to Z or A to N, wherever you want to go. I can help you here, but at the same time, I'm feeding myself and my own creative path and that of a more select group of people in a way that is mutually beneficial to all of that.
Growth, Goals, and Creative Fulfillment
00:54:09
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that It just kind of blows my mind. and it's all yeah It's all come together in this way. It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's so cool. And you know I hope for our listeners that what they hear too, as we said, is it's been it's been this whole journey. you just And you know even though in 2014 you said, okay, these are my goals. This is what I want to do.
00:54:31
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They came when they were ready. The podcast happened in 2020. As you said, you wanted the agency and what we want and when it's the right time sometimes don't often coincide. And so sometimes, you I mean, you can want it in your heart, but you just have to wait for that or work toward that, not do nothing. You didn't do nothing for the past.
00:54:54
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10 years, you were doing many things, but it all it's all timing sometimes too and the and the plan the greater plan. It is, and it's a really good reminder because I don't want anybody to think like, oh my God, it's such a long road. No, you have to pay attention to what's interesting you, lighting you up. Your gut is saying yes to right now because in a year from now, you will have said yes to that and you'll be able to then you don't know what's next. I was sure I was never going to have an agency because I had said no to myself many, many times. It didn't align at the time. Now it does. So if you lean in to like just listen to your gut and it's the heart and the the heart and the um mind
00:55:47
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being in sync. So yeah that doesn't always happen. We've all had experiences where it's like one's trying to tell the other what to do and you're like, not listening, not. So it's just when something feels exciting or cur you're curious about it, check it out. And it leads to the next opportunity.
00:56:07
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yeah Yeah, I kind of try to work that way on a daily basis now because I always was the kind of person that I'd i'd start out every day with what do I have to do and do all the have to's and then only do the want to's as like the dessert and sometimes would never I'd full and couldn't couldn't have the dessert.
00:56:29
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So I'm trying really hard at this time in my life to start every day saying, you know, I have my to-do list, but I'm like, which of these things do I read? What am I most excited to jump into today? And so that's sort of, you know, I know not everyone has the luxury and we all have our have tos and our to-do list.
00:56:51
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It's practicality. But I think if there are ways on a daily basis even to just treat ourselves with something that really is intriguing or lighting us up or, you know, making us or drawing us towards it like some kind of lesson or something, I think we'll be happier people overall.
00:57:13
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I agree. Lori, can we, how do you feel about sharing a tiny bit of the conversation we had last week? Cause it's sure. So Lori had heard that I was doing this and she reached out and said, Hey, I hear you're doing this thing. This was a couple months ago. And I was like, Hey, I think I am. And let's talk about it. I'd love to have you involved. And knowing, Lori and I, knowing what what being part of a licensing agency means. It's like, oh my gosh, i'm going to like people are going to want me to draw. ah They're going to need snowmen and they're going to need it at a deadline. and they're you know Not necessarily. So Lori came back to me and said, let's talk about this. I'm not sure I'm the right person for you to be involved in this.
00:58:04
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And what's your overview of of of our perspective on that, our shared perspective? Well, i I was concerned because I know you have a limited number of spots and I thought,
00:58:21
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You know, I don't know that I want to take on every project and you know have a million deadlines because I have opened up like time in my life now to do more things that are driven by my heart. So I was concerned that I would be taking a spot away from someone who was you know really hungry and wanted to work night and day on all kinds of new work. and So, that concerned me and you were kind enough to say, let's talk about what your goals are, just like what how you describe the way you want to run the agency. you know I do have certain unfulfilled goals that I haven't been able to accomplish in the licensing world.
00:59:07
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Um, so we talked about those what are those and getting clear on that and you know staying focused on that and And you were so kind about the conversation Um, because that's who you are Just gonna be a great agent I think we're in it together and I and I mean the greater we right and yeah, and I I so appreciated that ask Lori because yes, there's gonna be a lot of people that I wish I could take on and a lot of people that are interested.
00:59:42
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but i I always want it to be about the people. And then the rest will follow because if yourre if you have some goals that you haven't achieved yet, let's go after those goals. And it does give room for other people because yeah because you maybe don't wanna do the same kind of quantity that somebody else is,
01:00:07
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I can say, Lori, I'm gonna reserve Lori and her time for these things, specifics. I'm going to maybe pass some of these other projects down to people who maybe have a little bit more time. So it it's a really, I see it as a win-win for everybody, you know? Because my favorite thing is to let's see what we could do together, but it's not my goals, it's our goals.
01:00:36
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Well, and i I love it as a fit for our daughter too because Kenzie is at a point in her career where she's growing and yeah she has specific goals that you also were interested in. I just love an agent that really wants to be artist focused and really talk to the artists and care about what they're what they want to achieve. I think that's really special.
01:01:02
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I'm certainly not alone in the industry in that there's some amazing people. But there's some also some that are very corporate and um I just haven't leaned into those as much.
01:01:17
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so i'm i'm going to you know take the i've I've already, that's another thing is is collaborating with some other um of my favorite people in the industry to see how we can pull our people together for things once in a while and share information. and This is going to be an amazing amazing chapter and an amazing re-bloom for you. Thanks for letting me talk about it.
Advice for Artists and Upcoming Conferences
01:01:45
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feel it. Oh my gosh, I just love it. It'll be an adventure, that's for sure. It's going to be a great adventure. And oh my gosh, Margo, you are incredible. This has been the most inspirational conversation, just hearing about your journey, hearing about the the yeses, the pivots, all the good things along the way.
01:02:08
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And how blessed are the artists that are going to be um in your agency? Can I throw one little plug in because both of you are going to be speakers. Yes, Since we're talking about courage and creativity and all those things, um you are both speakers at a conference that I'm co-hosting next May 5th to the 8th.
01:02:35
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called Live Courageously, Rebloom. And we have some fabulous speakers and I'll be doing a creative session. My friend Pam Kravitz is doing a creative session. Britta Tabour, Mandy Blackford, Deon Woods, we just have a great lineup.
01:02:54
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And we're going to have a closing party with a DJ and Gudrun Chaudin, the brand that I'm an ambassador for. They're doing a pop-up shop and a fashion show, and they're actually going to do a giveaway to two spots. um They're going to host that in February. so Anybody who maybe has a little bit of fear or looking to make a change or needs a little nudge, a little support, I think this would be an amazing conference. yeah you know Your cheerleaders will be there. at at Conferences are the best way to meet your people and to yeah give yourself a giant gift of possibility and connection.
01:03:41
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It's the best, the things like this are the best things I do all year. And I get so excited because I i i get there and I'm like, okay, I have three days ahead of me. And I know that three days up from now, my life is going to be so much richer by what I'm going to gain and who I'm going to meet. And I have no idea what that looks like. So let's go, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah So true. I mean, we've so forever changed. summit over you I've been twice.
01:04:08
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I love what you've put together here though, Lori. So exciting. i I just, I don't know. I've taught at this property. i've I've hosted retreats there. It's called Richwood on the River and it's near a little quaint town called Madison, Indiana, which is like a Hallmark town. It's fabulous. Jamie's been there. So yeah, it's not you know a glamorous location, but it's a beautiful location and yeah Yeah, I just I just I can't wait. I hope we fill it because this is thank you I think we're going to have the we're going to have the best time. And Lori, thank you for sharing that, too. And I cannot wait for the three of us to be together in May and certainly to meet other creatives. Margo, we often ask our guests, although you've given so many amazing pearls throughout this hour.
01:04:58
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Just a little piece of advice that maybe you give to an artist or is given to you that we you could share with our listeners. you know I was thinking about that because I was reading over the lovely email you sent out about this conversation and advice. you know I would say two things that kind of go together um but are different. As much as you can, try and follow your gut. your gut It goes along with what we've been talking about. like Listen to that voice in your head. you know it's It knows, so give it the space whether that's
01:05:34
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drawing in the morning or taking a walk or quiet time, whatever that looks like. Give yourself the space to hear yourself. And if you're an artist and if you'd like to be doing something, a certain thing, or you love doing a certain thing, here's a reminder. People buy what they see. So in your portfolio, take a minute and put the things in there that you love to do because
01:06:06
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If you don't put them in there, people won't know that you love to do those things and they'll see other aspects of your creativity. So people buy what they see. Don't forget that. I have a story about that. So good. So I always wanted to work in a journal because I would admire Jennifer Ork and Lewis. and She had these beautiful journals, but often I didn't because of licensing, because it would make it a little harder to scan and you know, all of the things.
01:06:37
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Plus, I don't know, you're doing a certain kind of art and licensing, or at least I was. And so I started doing these journals and I, and a lot of it was from the challenges I was doing on Instagram. So, you know, I thought none of this stuff is really licenseable. I'm just doing it for fun because I love Twitter.
01:06:56
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So I brought i on a whim, brought them to the gift show um in Atlanta last time. And two different manufacturers kind of lit up and wanted to do something around it. So I actually have a meeting coming up with one of them to go through all of them and figure out how to craft a collection ah or I don't know what it's going to be.
01:07:19
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So I just did that on a whim because I thought, oh, you know, this really isn't going to be right or I don't think it'll work, whatever. But it was all stuff that came from my heart. So yeah we're joyful and.
01:07:34
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So you yeah, I totally agree with that. Like I always, when I was a graphic designer and hiring illustrators or photographers or whatever, I wanted to see their sketchbooks or their personal projects or, you know, the things that maybe weren't so corporate because I would just get so lit up by those those projects. A hundred percent. That is exactly how it aligns. that's that the that's following your gut. Those are the things that light you up. And and I think we're so used to being polished, right? and Like, oh, I can't post that because it's not ScanRider. It's just a quick sketch. um One of another artists in the studio um on her
01:08:18
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in her portfolio, she has a section that's her journal. And I'd never seen that done before. And it's just photographs probably from her phone of double page spreads. And that's my favorite part to go look at because i it feels just very fresh and real to me. I love that. I can't wait to see what comes of that, Lori. I love it. Brilliant that you took it with you. Amazing.
01:08:38
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yeah Amazing. Well, thank you, Margo. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks. And to all of our listeners, you are amazing. I can't wait to see you all in person. Absolutely. And to our listeners, peace, love, and re-bloom.
Closing Remarks and Encouragement
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Life is too short not to follow your passions, so go out there and let your heart plant you where you are meant to be and grow your joy. We will be right here sharing more incredible stories of reinvention with you. Make sure to subscribe to our podcast so you never miss an episode of Rebloom. Until next time, I'm Jamie Jamison. And I'm Lori Siebert. Peace, love, and Rebloom, dear friends.