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Rich: All right, and welcome to episode 561 of the Grit to Greatness Endurance Podcast. I'm your host, Coach Rich Soares, and I'm on a mission to help endurance athletes train smarter, race stronger. and build the grit it takes to achieve greatness today we are joined by paracyclist Mike Murphy, who you have heard from before because Mike and I have been doing some racing and now he has a new pilot, Harrison Devine.
Rich: And we also have... Harrison's coach Pat Warner joining us. Gentlemen, welcome. We're glad you're all here.
Pat: Excited to be here.
Mike Murphy: Thank you.
Harrison Devine: ah Thank you for having us.
Rich: Well, we are here for a really good reason. Listen. We have learned here in the last week or so, ah you guys have got a big announcement, right? You guys had some really good news. um Being selected. for the Paracycling National, sorry, that I guess this would be the.
Rich: international team. Right? So congratulations, guys. You guys excited?
Mike Murphy: Hell yeah. Thank you very much.
Harrison Devine: Definitely.
Rich: i mean what an opportunity
Mike Murphy: Yes, sir.
Rich: So...
Mike Murphy: Yes, it's been a long time coming. and That email was, I don't know, it's... Harrison and I have been talking back and forth for the last few days and it's been... hasn't completely hit there's like moments where emotions there and then all of a sudden stress of getting everything ready to go so but it's Super exciting.
Mike Murphy: Very blessed.
Rich: Yeah, I mean, you know. Think about how far. You have come this year, Mike. I'm just you know thinking through kind of all you know from - Valley of the Sun at the beginning of the year.
Rich: to you know road nationals out in Bentonville. to watching you guys smoke the track in Colorado Springs back in, what was that, August?
Rich: Fifth and eighth or seventh, fifth and seventh, something like that. So that was really the thing that really probably. opened up the door right so maybe we could just start there maybe talk about what it was like in that block leading up. like but Let's just me start back with... How did you guys meet?
Mike Murphy: You want to take this one, Harrison, or you want me to?
Harrison Devine: Yeah. so um I was actually, last winter I was down in Tucson, Arizona training. and spending a lot of time on the new Tucson Velodrome.
Harrison Devine: uh which is super cool track the first aluminum velodrome in the world um And down there. One of the guys who's running most of the programming, John Walsh.
Harrison Devine: He had piloted Mike back in 2023. when When Mike first raced. that track cycling nationals. um And Mike had been in touch with him that he was looking at that point for ah for a new pilot. to uh to chase the chase the dream with.
Harrison Devine: And I was at kind of a moment in my racing where. the individual results weren't pushing me to a point where I could race internationally or kind of take a ah next step.
Harrison Devine: So the opportunity to race with Mike was was super exciting because it would. would open that up for me.
Rich: Awesome. And Mike, and yeah maybe we'll do this. you know For those who haven't maybe... heard our first interview from i guess it was we did one in valley of the sun and we did another one at road nationals For those who maybe are just tuning into your story, maybe let's start with that. maybe Tell us how you found your way into paracycling.
Rich: And. and really how we got how you got to this point. in in your competitive career because Then I want to take some time and and really get to. Get a little bit of a backstory.
Rich: on. on Harrison and a little bit of a backstory. on. Pat, so. Start with you Mike. A little bit of the backstory on how we got how you got here in general.
Mike Murphy: Okay.
Mike Murphy: I will try and condense it as much as I can. If I if i talk too much, you guys give me an audio cue. but Long story short. Very blessed. I was served in the Army for just under 10 years.
Mike Murphy: I was a 15 whiskey unmanned aircraft systems operator. Fancy word to say that I flew drones. Unfortunately, I got in a... accident in a vehicle on the airfield while we were deployed to Greece.
Mike Murphy: in Volos, Greece. Smash my head. damaged my optic nerves, and it triggered an eye disease. ended up causing me to lose about 80 % of my sight. back in 2018 I went through a whirlwind of emotions, life changes, thought life was over, depressed, alcoholism, the whole nine yards. i was I was at a very dark spot. I did not want to live.
Mike Murphy: And thankfully, through the ade Army's ah Recovery Care Program through the Soldier Recovery Unit, I discovered adaptive sports. Anything from cycling, track, field, running, snowboarding. I've been blessed to do a lot of different competitions from Warrior Games to Invictus Games and and beyond.
Mike Murphy: and i kind of my My initial mentor, Mark Catapan, got me stuck on the tandem. we Went outside, he was like, have you been on a bike before? I was i was a runner. Never really a cyclist. And then I jumped on the tandem. We climbed Pikes Peak. we i was I was blessed to be in Colorado Springs.
Mike Murphy: Did a bunch of amazing routes out there and then Ride the Rockies was one of my initial breakthroughs that just allowed me to truly enjoy the tandem. the The portion of climbing up a a mountain pass and then ripping down, going 60 miles an hour on a bike was...
Mike Murphy: phenomenal especially since i'm not able to ride my own motorcycle or or craft like that so kind of Push me forward to the direction I was in. Had a couple different pilots. John Walsh was awesome. He got me in the track for the first time. I had Joseph Mata for a few years. we were We were chasing the dream, and unfortunately, he had gotten injured this year.
Mike Murphy: linked up with you coach this year. And I knew personally I had it, like I had the drive to make it. I just hadn't put all the pieces together. Finally hired a solid coach, got the grit to greatness going. improve my personal setting skills you and i were blessed to be able to race together and then just i mean god works in mysterious ways for sure like harrison jumping in he's been chasing his dream and the way that we've been able to get together connect race and i mean
Mike Murphy: it's been we We linked up in June. I flew to Seattle. Gotta pair it up. His first time ever on the tandem was on a track tandem. If you guys don't know, track cycling, single speed, single gears, fixed gears.
Mike Murphy: And it was a little scary the first time. He had never been on a tandem, period. And we almost, it was a little little scary, I think, for both of us. i've I've been on with a bunch of different pilots, but.
Mike Murphy: jumped on that first little go. I wish we could have recorded. Because now we're we're flying and racing for Team USA. So it's it's funny how... little increments how we've came such a long way since the mid -June to now. it's mid -september and here we are chasing the the ultimate dream like
Mike Murphy: it still gives me the chills here, like knowing that I haven't officially accepted, like we're on team USA. So super excited, very blessed, thankful for you coach, thankful for Harrison and Pat. Like we wouldn't be here without obviously our coaching and our support around us, but even just.
Mike Murphy: Just the way the world works. God's god's phenomenal. so That's my piece.
Rich: hey Well, this is the dream team right here. We got a great picture back in Colorado Springs a couple of months ago, the four of us. Um, Backstory here. the Harrison, tell us about like, what was your cycling career up to this point?
Harrison Devine: Yeah, so my my cycling career, I guess... i'm I'm a product of the... of the Lance Armstrong. Tour de France wins to to ah a degree. uh you know i think Around that would have been like 2004 2005 when he was winning his last tours I...
Harrison Devine: all right you know. when they were his tour wins. And. I you know got the. Got the bike racing bug. And I grew up. um out here in in the Seattle area and in Washington state.
Harrison Devine: and we have a really strong track racing community here. So even before I had really gotten the bug to. to race bikes. I had had... been out just go out on a Friday night and watch the track racing out here.
Harrison Devine: Uh, So once the time came that I was like, oh, I want to. race bikes. uh That was the place that I that i started. So that was when...
Harrison Devine: i was the summer i was turning 12 years old i took the took the track class and started riding and racing on the track. And from there. Through all my all my teenage years, I was ah was a did some road racing, did some cyclocross, a tiny bit of mountain bike.
Harrison Devine: But the track was really always my... home base and in bike racing. I... back when I was, this would have been about 2013. my one of my last years as a junior i went to junior track nationals and and picked up a silver medal there.
Harrison Devine: which for a long time was the was the high watermark of national championship placing. And then. I... Went to college. End of dialogue.
Harrison Devine: Walking kind of walking away from the sport for a long time you know got a job adult real adult life took over for a lot of years And then in the summer of 2024. Bye.
Harrison Devine: kind of come to the conclusion that I wanted to give it another shot. that I had really not. Not. gotten everything out of myself that I could. so I started started training.
Harrison Devine: that summer just as kind of a you know fun project, just to see what power numbers I can do. And. By the time I was in the middle of the summer, it was like, I'm i'm gonna...
Harrison Devine: really go for this. And. So that took me to you know through that winter. at the time I was living in in New York City. I... probably about Two years ago.
Harrison Devine: Bye. Almost. sometime about two years ago like to the month, probably. i had had a conversation with my parents that was how would you feel if i moved back in to your basement and was a full -time bike racer And.
Harrison Devine: A huge shout out to my parents. They barely batted an eye. i am I'm recording this podcast from their house where I'm i'm still... still based in my bike racing life when I'm not.
Harrison Devine: traveling somewhere. Uh, But yeah, so came back in 2025 was my comeback year to bike racing. had. I went to... We track nationals that year.
Harrison Devine: and and had decent results. But like I mentioned earlier, it was... Not. not rising to a level that I was going to you know go to world championships. you know make the Olympic team, any anything like that. so i was last offseason I was really Um,
Harrison Devine: kind of Just thinking about what my what my path forward was and then The rest the rest is is history with Mike.
Rich: Well, somewhere along the way. You hired a coach. named Pat Warner.
Harrison Devine: Yes. Yeah, so I was...
Rich: Tell us about that.
Harrison Devine: i was Yeah, i was I was figuring it out. through Through 2024, I was really im self -coaching. And man, looking back. There are there are a lot of...
Harrison Devine: a lot of mistakes made in that it turns out you can't just endurance ride and do four by four minute intervals and get that much faster. it works for a while and then and then you plateau pretty fast with that ah Yeah, so then it was in that really in the winter. 24 25 i think I think January of 2025 was the year the month that...
Harrison Devine: Pat and I started working together. ah and And it's... you know, just been upping up from there.
Rich: Awesome. And Pat. I'm glad that you're here. Tell us a little bit about your. career as a coach, and maybe... define for folks a little bit about what track cycling is about, since this is a bit of your specialty.
Pat: Yeah, so I've been in the sport for a lot of years and seen a lot of change over the... last 42, 43 years of bike racing. um it's's It's always fun to see people get that. Get the excitement of the track. I did my first track race in 19. 84 maybe somewhere in that time frame so i've been around track for a long time but the the in and from a coaching perspective
Pat: um I've always enjoyed trying to teach and educate and you know having this
Pat: having all the experience I've had, I knew that there was an avenue to help others enjoy it. Mostly first, enjoy it, but then secondly, be good at it. And um so I've been coaching for quite a while now. um and still race my bike as much as possible but Track racing, the thing about track racing is there's so it's so technical. It's so much more technical than people would ever realize. It seems simple with a fixed gear bike, single speeds, no, you know, but there's so many different types of races. um And then, you know, obviously in today's age, aerodynamics and pacing strategies. and
Pat: gear selection and all that is so pertinent um and the parts that people don't ever talk about there's no feedback on the bike there's no power there's no cadence. There's no speed feedback allowed in track racing. So you you really, it's kind of, it's very technical, but it's kind of old school and in a way. um But it's it's much harder than people would ever.
Pat: suspect watching it
Pat: But it's fun too, because there's just so much that happens on the track. You're going so freaking fast. And as Mike mentioned, being on a tandem, it's a completely different experience going around one of those tracks. you know so but the the thing about track racing is there's there's events for everybody as well it's um for people that don't haven't seen it most people have seen track and field there's a lot of events and it makes it fun because you can specialize in one or you can be an all -arounder um depending on what you want what what you find your skill set or what you'd like to train for or what's the most fun for you so it's uh It's something that's exciting because you can try different things.
Pat: in one venue
Rich: well it's exciting to watch there's so many different formats that can happen in an afternoon right um Love it.
Pat: Mm.
Pat: Yeah, exactly.
Rich: a little bit of everything for everybody. Okay. Well, thank you gentlemen. That was great. Everyone's got a chance to get to know you here a little bit. Mike. I remember where I was when I got your text message that you had gotten the word that you. have You and Harrison have been selected.
Rich: Take. our listeners back to when you learned the news that you had been selected. Where were you? What were you told? What did the opportunity mean to you?
Mike Murphy: um I was embarrassed. I uh... I don't know. I was kind of going through since. since gravel gnats we return from there on a high Pretty awesome race. for Harrison and I, it was our first time doing that. And then it's kind of been like in limbo.
Mike Murphy: when are they going to announce this so getting antsy kind of going through the whole emotional ups and downs like just put the list out already and A couple of buddies told me, Justin Mathers, who was on with us before, he's like, yeah, if you if you get selected, you'll you'll find out before.
Mike Murphy: So I was like, bro, we should have found out last week. I guess we're not getting selected. So I was kind of just like, let me know so I can start training for roadmats or a road next year. and then i'm i'm checking my email normally like i do in the morning from bed and i've got my phone's on super speed mode so it's just blasting And then it says, Chris Ferber.
Mike Murphy: hey mike congratulations i'd like to let you know that you're invited and i was like oh my gosh My fiance was getting ready for work. it's five
Rich: a
Mike Murphy: it's like 4 30 in the morning so i'm still early so i'm sitting there like okay just just getting routine i wake up i go help get her stuff ready send her off and i jump on the bike And it was like.
Mike Murphy: Oh wow. let me re -listen to that, so I'm sitting there, I listen to it over and over, and I'm like, babe, Guess what? She was like, holy crap, congrats. So we celebrated. We had our little personal time to celebrate. She sent her off to work, and I'm sitting there. Harrison's, of course, still sleeping because he's in a different time zone.
Mike Murphy: And I'm sitting there like. response i'm trying to like i know i can't tell everybody i couldn't make a post or anything But at the same time, I was just like super pumped for joy. I text you, coach. I text a couple of different people. So I was just like.
Mike Murphy: Man, this is... unbeliev It seemed like a fake message, but it was I had to go back.
Rich: ah
Mike Murphy: and mean
Pat: so so suspicious
Mike Murphy: time Just to make sure. I was like, am I am i reading this right? Am I listening right? so it was Pretty exciting. That was his last. Monday Tuesday, I don't know I can't remember. It's Tuesday.
Mike Murphy: Tuesday morning.
Rich: All right. So Harrison, same question to you. You get the you get the text from Mike. You realize you're going to be on the world stage now. What is what did this like? What did this mean to you?
Harrison Devine: I think like interestingly One of the biggest emotions for me was was relief. Because we'd put in the work to get there. like like we We'd put in the work. we'd we'd you know put in a a really good effort in Colorado Springs at nationals.
Harrison Devine: And so we kind of we put ourselves out there. And. Then it was just. wait and hope that we get selected. So getting the selection. it it was It was relieving because that...
Harrison Devine: It felt like the biggest hurdle to us was getting selected. Like. I believe that once we go to Worlds, we can do a really good ride. we can you know set ourselves up well for future opportunities on the national team. The... the pathway to to the Paralympics in 28.
Harrison Devine: So it it really felt to me like. the the selection was like the part that was out of our control. Uh, So to get that was was. I mean, there was a lot of joy, but there was also a lot of relief that it that it came through.
Harrison Devine: And then. it took you know maybe five minutes of that and then it was like into planning mode. which is Ben. like all day every day since since the announcement has been planning planning planning planning
Rich: true
Harrison Devine: because we're we're going you know it's a It's a... Basically two and a half week notice Trip to Europe. for the most logistically complicated.
Harrison Devine: thing I think we've ever done pretty much.
Rich: Well, yeah, let's just go down that thread. So first of all, like what is this? Like, what is the official designation? And what does this now mean in terms of your schedule? So you guys are going to Brussels in just a couple of weeks here.
Rich: Talk about like. How does this like totally reframe things?
Harrison Devine: Yeah, I guess in terms of the the official designation, so so there are kind of two things.
Mike Murphy: Absolutely.
Harrison Devine: there's ah with With USA Cycling, they have... sort of ah a permanent national team that's ah an annual designation And then this is like a. we're on the national team roster for this specific event so that's what We've been selected for the.
Harrison Devine: That. paracycling national team for the track. Para World Championships. And then. there are future opportunities to be a ah permanent national team member.
Harrison Devine: four. Like. annually for 2027. if based on based on performance and other. factors.
Rich: Perfect. And so Mike, what does this mean for the schedule? Like talk about your schedule coming up and what races you'll be doing. together.
Mike Murphy: So... All eyes on. pair of worlds right now so essentially it's It helps us designate training wise. Everything's. Kind of like how you and I were discussing, well, once this is announced.
Mike Murphy: everything switches to road cycling. But... Clearly now, 100 % track. So thankfully, we've been we've been training that. So essentially, like you said, two weeks notice.
Mike Murphy: logistics behind traveling with multiple bikes Multiple tandem. but I've never traveled internationally with a tandem, so that's... a little stressful thankfully we've got a plan to where Harrison will fly to me. We'll get some training together and then we'll fly out together. So then there's also the the dynamics of.
Mike Murphy: traveling with Maverick, my guide dog. and making sure him and i are luckily we so we made tier level two essentially which means we cover our way to get there and once we get there we're we're a part of the team so they'll handle logistics once we're there.
Mike Murphy: But until that point, that's all on us. So that's where it's rushing to get. Similar to what you experienced last time at Nationals, I'm classified as a blind paracyclist for the usa side but uci i the international level is a whole different ballgame so Also rushing, hitting up the VA. Thankfully, my my eye doctors are pretty solid and that was a stressor this morning. I was in a rush like...
Mike Murphy: i need this done i didn't realize next week is the first so i was like i need it done by the 30th please get this done so They've responded. All the balls are rolling, and and luckily it's...
Mike Murphy: everything's working out, but a lot of those stressors. we've been able to handle but like harrison said the last three days it's been Non -stop. even i mean i've been working at the bike shop but you i'm pretty much not even working i've just been figuring out logistics with the team.
Mike Murphy: um mechanic making sure we have everything we need for the races and so The amount of pre -logistics just for him and I? is insane. I can't imagine what they're going through as a whole team. so it's very blessed to have harrison in my corner because he's very knowledgeable with with Not just track specific, but everything with the bike related. what we need how we're going to plan and luckily We have had two previous races together where we've realized, all right, here's
Mike Murphy: Here's what didn't work well. Here's what worked well. This is international. Let's let's make sure we we we're prepared for this. So we've had a couple of small test runs, and now this will be the... The big, big test. so I think we're both we're both excited, relieved, like he said, but also extremely confident. and and the fact that we're given the opportunity to not just represent Team USA, but also go earn our spot now. so This is exciting.
Rich: Harrison to you. you know you're You now are a pilot. You've been a pilot. for Mike on a couple of races, few races. I know what that's like, that learning curve ah on the road and you know taking trying to practice U -turns so that we could. you know, not Crash.
Rich: I... I can only imagine what this is like technically. on the track What did you learn as a pilot in terms of like the bike handling and weight? but you know and the balance on the bike.
Rich: that's unique to track cycling and just that responsibility of making sure you don't crash.
Harrison Devine: yeah Yeah, I think that. the the weight of the responsibility to not crash. uh has I felt that since the first moment that we were on. On the bike and we... we swayed this way and we swayed that way and we barely caught it. and It was like, okay.
Harrison Devine: i am I'm not responsible for only myself here. um Yeah, I think on the track. And this is interest tracks all have different geometry.
Harrison Devine: there's ah There's an international standard of... 250 meter tracks that's all the world championships olympics every paralympics everything takes place on that size of track. but even within that fixed size there are geometry differences.
Harrison Devine: So there are some tracks that ride. And and they're they're easy to keep the bike down in the corners and there are other tracks where it's really challenging to keep the bike on that shortest line.
Harrison Devine: Uh, And that is. amplified immensely. on the tandem. All right. So that was one of the things like in Colorado Springs, that is a track that at least personally I find is really hard to ride a good line on.
Harrison Devine: and even even solo and then on the tandem more challenging. Um, But I think like. theres there's a So there's a ah side of it that's responsibility. Like I'm i'm responsible for Mike and I feel.
Harrison Devine: some pressure from that. to a degree which i mean i think it's good pressure um Like that. that certainly Um... It pushes me in some good ways.
Harrison Devine: you know like Um. so Some of that, like... keeping the good line on the track is like you just have to you know just just get in there and and do it. and and not Kind of not back down um And so.
Harrison Devine: i know I know what Mike would tell me. if I explain that situation to ah to me, how he would how he would tell me to handle that. Um, And you know there are moments in the race where...
Harrison Devine: I, you know I feel like I'm really coming apart. And. it's It's interesting because I think if I was racing on my own, I would go to... a to a mental place where I would find the resolve to do that. But it's almost because Like...
Harrison Devine: I know that Mike's counting on me. i don't have to go to as deep of a mental place. All right. to to find the resolve to keep pushing. which is, I mean, that's that's a really interesting layer.
Harrison Devine: fine because it's really unique within cycling. us primarily an individual sport. to be like that that closely. you know, our performance is is extremely closely linked. All right.
Harrison Devine: And there are.
Rich: totally
Harrison Devine: I mean, I think it's interesting because I think there are times in the races where Like I carry us a little bit more their time in the races where Mike carries us a little bit more And I think we're a really well matched.
Harrison Devine: pair as well. where we're we're really we're putting in really pretty equal amounts to that. to the overall proportion of the bike.
Rich: There's just so much communication that's happening between. The two writers. that is, there's a lot of non, there's a lot of nonverbal communication that is happening too, right?
Rich: You can feel each other's power. You can feel each other's pulse on the pedal, right? How smooth each other are. Um, It's pretty amazing. Pat, I got a question for you here. I want you to weigh in. you know ah What?
Rich: You know, what's going to separate a strong domestic tandem from one that's prepared for an international racing?
Pat: are Are you talking about the bike itself or the... the two people on.
Rich: No, no it just Two people on it. Yeah, the two people on it.
Pat: Well, I mean... this The story's crazy, right? They started riding together in June, right? And so. And so I think that right now and the difference between domestic and international is it's just it's more time and more more more practice i mean if you think about Harrison telling the story of just starting, almost tipping over. you know, four months ago. um yeah to where they are today um so i think that i think that there's
Pat: Um, both just the experience together. But the other thing is, and I'm not sure exactly how Mike was training specifically, but Harrison was not training for a four -minute event specifically. um into june i mean he was training to be an all -arounder so um the the difference between um where where we were and what we're doing now is much more focused on this type of event so i think that you know with the next three and four weeks even further um and we did not stop after um
Pat: After nationals, I had confidence that they were going to get in. So we kept training as they were getting in. But yeah, the difference being is it's going to be time. um it's It's going to be they're riding more together and having two weeks in a camp to be.
Pat: you know, nothing but that with the support of USAC. to keep them in a place where they can focus on. recovery, training hard, communication, and having mechanics and staff there to help them will will certainly benefit. And they're going to be around a lot of other people who've been doing it for years. So they will certainly learn.
Pat: Um, and both from people from the US and from other countries. um So I think that it's just a really big learning experience and hopefully it's just the next step to even greater things.
Rich: Love that. Mike, I'm going to have you bring us home here just in this. this line of questioning. so What would you want another visually impaired athlete to hear when they look at this opportunity and wonder?
Rich: man is there a place for them in cycling and i know we we've actually had a recent conversation about Jenny Schiessler, who just joined the team, right? What would you say to another Jenny Schistler?
Mike Murphy: The biggest thing since since losing my say is... I became Yes Man. any opportunities there. If you have the opportunity, take it. Try something new. i like i said i was not a cyclist It was a runner.
Mike Murphy: I never thought I would find... That passion that I have now for a bike even even for the longest time to find I was a runner beforehand, so I defined that runner's high. And truly until...
Mike Murphy: After the 4K that Harris and I did in Colorado Springs was the first time that I... I tasted that again. And I guess only if you're if you're an athlete, you know what I'm talking about. but Get out and try it the cool thing about cycling. There's so many different disciplines And being on a tandem, like he said, there's...
Mike Murphy: It's really what helped me suck my pride up. And I had to trust the person in front of me. I mean, I've been on there with you, Coach. I've been on there with with Harrison. but The bike has helped me in so many ways aside from physical fitness that I encourage anybody.
Mike Murphy: specifically blind athletes. That's obviously my forte, but anybody at all. I work at a bike shop now here in... Albuquerque and I don't care what age, size, shape.
Mike Murphy: Abe. able -bodied or not, get on a bike and I promise you it's going to change your life for the better. So blind athlete specific. Find a good pilot. we're not a good pilot and you're going to learn from both so either way you'll have a blast i promise
Rich: Um,
Pat: yeah
Harrison Devine: Well, while we're while we're in a section where we're cutting out, I think, Mike, your your audio is a little bit low. So if you can lean in or. or speak up, that would be helpful.
Mike Murphy: Okay.
Rich: Thanks Harrison. That's awesome. All right. So let's. have a little quick fun here i've got a quick fun segment i wanna hit you guys with just a couple of quick questions.
Rich: and you And Harrison and Mike, you can both answer this. so Harrison, first, what is your favorite velodrome sound?
Mike Murphy: o
Harrison Devine: The favorite velodrome sound I think it's it's kind of a combination. It's the the sound of the disc wheel. and the the track drivetrain has kind of a unique sound to it and those two kind of amplify off of each other and it's it's Kind of intoxicating that that sound
Rich: Awesome. And Mike. One word that describes your partner here under pressure.
Mike Murphy: Fearless.
Rich: Fearless. I love that. All right. Awesome guys. Hey, so glad we could do this. i'm gonna I'm going to just take us through a real quick ad read and then we're going to close it out. But guys, thank you for being here. This was awesome.
Rich: Good luck to you. I cannot wait to track your progress as you guys continue to. to race internationally and pursue LA 2028. We're going to do this again, for sure.
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