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A Super ZERO Life?! Living in the Marvel World! || Marvel Month
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With time running out for Season 6, three podcasters must band together to discuss one of cinema's greatest triumphs in superhero history: Marvel. But with so many films and television shows under their belt, how much has it held up? Welcome to Marvel Month!
In this episode, Satsunami and Andrew discuss what it would be like to live in the world of Marvel! But what would be the best and worst part of living there? Would you cope with a cycling superhero? And what would a supervillain apology video look like?! Well grab your infinity insurance as we discuss living in the Marvel World!
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Plot Fix and Superhero Influx
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And done. The plot button has been fixed. You just slap some duct tape on it and call it a day. The main thing is, all's well that ends well. Well, minus the... Sorry, what? The rampant superheroes running about.
00:00:18
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Satsu... I know, I know. But hey, maybe it won't be that bad. Look, there's Spider-Man. Well, that happened. And look, it's Captain America. Well, that happened.
00:00:30
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And there's the X-Men. Couldn't get the licensing rights, could you? Maybe. he is like the Hulk. Hulk smash! Ow! Oh! Oh, gosh!
00:00:40
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Oh, no, please! Ow! Ow! Ow! Ooh, that's gotta hurt.
Marvel Month Introduction
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Welcome to Marvel Month.
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ah oh good Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Marvel Month. My name is Satsunami and joining me today is none other than the resident Marvel expert himself, it is Andrew. Andrew, welcome back. You say resident expert for me for a lot of things, I don't think I'm an expert in any of these. Well you're not? No, I think you got the wrong guy. Oh Jesus. Should I leave? Your name's not Andrew Adam, is it? No.
00:01:19
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Oh no, I've got to make some phone calls. I'll be right back. I love that in the intros, by the way. It's at the end of every single one.
00:01:34
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The really terrible Marvel intro that I do. Well, we both do. It's a, please, it's a duel. Yeah. da That's because every time I edit episodes for this month, I was just like, you know what would be really funny? See, instead of just stealing a club from the music and being like, yeah, let's make it sound cool. No, no, no, not in Chatsunami. I sound like the kazoo kid. Oh god, yeah. Wait a minute! But yeah, how are you
World Cup and Heatwave Effects
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doing today? Other than that knock to your confidence. How are you doing? I'm doing well, thank you. The World Cup is still ongoing at the time of recording, so we've been watching some of the games, which have been fun, and we've been having a heatwave, but enjoying myself here. what about yourself? Yeah, can't complain. i think the worst of the heatwave as of recording this episode has passed over, but the TV keeps threatening us with another heatwave. And you're sitting there like, oh, thank God it's raining, it's normal Scottish weather. And then you see all the supermarkets put out the barbecue kits and things and it's like, what do you know that I don't know? It's when you see, you know, those sausages on the sticks and you're like, hmm. I don't like this. I'm going to get burned, aren't I? have such a terrible burn on my back. It's really bad. Getting some burn on your back is the worst. It's the worst superpower ever.
00:02:47
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I just summon the power of aloe vera to heal me. You can be a podcaster, but you're going to burn. part parcel and I think every every podcaster is pasty
Anticipating Marvel Month
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and burns easily. As I said, today we are on a third episode of Marvel Month, which, I mean, it's crazy, isn't it? How long have we been talking about this month before we started recording and everything?
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Because was it last year? Yeah, we've been talking about doing something for this. We knew Spider-Man was coming out this month. And so we wanted to try and do something kind of in the lead up to that. And so hopefully we'll be able to make it work with the immediate reaction podcast that will take place in a couple of weeks time from when this releases. But yeah, this has been long in the making. And that even prior to last year, I think we talked about, or at least I've brought up the idea of doing more Marvel related stuff. I mean, there's a lot of films, to be fair.
00:03:32
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and It is a lot of films. Well, I mean, there's a lot of films, there's a lot of games, there's a lot of comics, you know, it's just, it's a chunky month. But today, of course, to kind of lighten things up, because last week we talked about the, and again, i use this very loosely to talk about the downfall of the MCU, which, I have to say, when I say downfall, it's still going strong. Maybe not as strong as it used to be, but it's still going. It's still prominent. And as you said, people are really
Spider Noir and Nicolas Cage
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excited. One of the other things I was watching the other day was that Spider Noir show. Have you seen that recently? I've already seen the first episode. I've not watched it past that. enjoyed what I saw. maybe I've seen two episodes now, but I've only seen a little bit of it. It was interesting. I liked what I saw, but I've not been rushing to see because we've been watching other stuff instead. Yeah, it's definitely different, have to say. And it's one thing that I think without Nicolas Cage, I don't know how well people would respond to if you know what I mean. i feel as if he is the glue holding that show together. by Everyone they else is really talented. He is so old.
00:04:33
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and it like It feels like it was the kind of show that would have fit him better 20 years ago. it doesn't really make sense, his role in it at his age. I feel like he was supposed to be a bit younger to be able to do this. Well, slight spoilers, but they do de-age him at one point. they Granted, in a flashback, I won't spoil anymore, but it's a flashback. Again, it would be really weird if they just had him there as old man Ben Reilly somewhere, but it does work, have to say. but But yeah, while I was watching that, it's something that you and I have talked about, maybe not in terms of Marvel, but in general for the Living in the X-World episodes, and this is what we're going to be talking
Living in the Marvel Universe
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about today. We're going to be talking about Living in the Marvel world This is one that is definitely ripe for the exploring, isn't it? Because they kind of have their own, is it right to say, a system in place terms of lore building and world building for the films? that You do have ordinary people reacting to what's going on. Yeah, in a way, they do have lots of audience insert extras that are like, oh my goodness, is this actually happening? Or that kind of thing, where you're kind of seeing how the average person is impacted by the MCU. And I think that is the perfect place to, know, web zip, superhero land, throw your hammer and fly. But I'm struggling to think of the other ones, because it's like, yeah, can fly into it, but that's so boring. Nanosuit app. Yeah, grow or shrink. Ant-Man reference. Nice one. Hulk up. Jump on your six-legged friend. Or get banned from acting because of your superpowers.
00:06:07
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You ready to dive into this topic, Andrew? Yeah, let's get into it And of course, we'll be right back. after these messages. Welcome to Chatsunami, a Scottish variety podcast that discusses topics from gaming and films to anime and general interests. Join me, your host, Satsunami, as well as the rest of our Chatsunami team for our takes on these very important pop culture topics. Sir, it's clearly a trap. I accept your page! That happens three times in the film. Every time that general goes, don't do this one thing, he goes, do you know what I'ma do? It's the exact thing.
00:06:41
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It doesn't well. She had the pointy teeth. What was that about? She looked like Bilbo when he wants the ring back. ah She turned into him. I just want the lightsaber one more time. Parasite says, no, you will get back into your office and work. No, says the man in Zoom. yeah Trousers are for the working man. You're bursting into your hotel room. Honey, we need to go.
00:07:04
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Leave the kids. We can milk an audition. Oh.
00:07:12
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That's the worst thing you've ever said on any of the epi episodes. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then you can check us out at our website, chattsunami.com, as well as all good podcast apps. As always, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.
00:07:28
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Stay classy and have a bad... This has been chattsunami! I'm sorry, what?
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They rule the streets.
00:07:45
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They take what they want. Hand it over street meat before we make you dead meat. And you'll have to deal with them if you want to make it through the night.
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If Ashley wants to survive, she'll need to fight
Amy Cotto's Survival Novel
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on their turf.
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She'll have to fight dirty. Stop struggling. And she'll have to pick them off one by one if she hopes to make it through the night.
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Impact of Superheroes on Society
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So I've got a question for you, Andrew, and it's probably the most pertinent question of this episode. See if you found out one day that superheroes did exist. What would your reaction be to that? Genuinely, if you heard someone had like super strength and everything or had the powers of a spider, for example, you know, you just you were opened up to this world.
00:09:13
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Yeah. What would you be saying? It's hard. It probably wouldn't affect me on like ah an actual day-to-day basis. I would be like, ah whoa, that's pretty cool. like How you'd like idolize an insane athlete kind of thing. It would be very cool and in that way. And you kind of wonder what the limitations of it would be. But because it wouldn't directly impact me, I guess there wouldn't be too much of it like a concern that sets in or how can this be best used sort of thing. Well, I mean, you say that, but what if you were going on holiday to these big cities or... Because, I mean, look at Spider-Man Far From Home, where Spider-Man's in Venice, for God's sake.
00:09:45
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And it's like, you would have to accept, surely, that there's going to be superheroes everywhere, no matter where you go. Well, maybe not in the more rural parts, but... If we're talking almost like the boys kind of thing where they're everywhere and so if there's loads of superheroes and then also loads of supervillains, then yes, that would affect on a day-to-day basis. If you are in this kind of environment like the MCU is, which has extraterrestrial threats and supervillains and robots and that kind of stuff, then yes, that would affect me on a day-to-day basis and would certainly, there would be a level of kind of panic that sets in. I think people in the MCU generally are not as just scared as I think they should be.
00:10:24
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You're not wrong. They have so much more whimsy to what's going on than I feel makes sense. I would be panicking. The thing is, though, I suppose it's just you get used to it. You know, it's like you see, don't know, Spider-Man or Thor or whatever beating up somebody in New York. And I don't mean like just curb stomping them in the street corner. Like the Godfather.
00:10:45
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ah just like, you know, just beating some random person. You're like, is that the superheroes? Or is that just, you know, the mascot stressed up? You're like, hmm, I don't want to know. Because that's the thing, though. Do you think a lot of people would try to... And I don't think it's something the MCU has explored. Maybe in the comics this has been explored. And I know there's kick-ass and things like that. But do you think there would be a lot more people wanting to be superheroes... Like a vigilante kind of thing. Yeah, ah because I know you've got like the Punisher and everything that they technically, as far as I know, they don't have powers. So they get into that in Daredevil. I knew you were going to say that and I don't know why.
00:11:23
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So in the latest couple of seasons of Daredevil, large part of it is about vigilantes and how there's like a crackdown from the government on vigilantes and like how they can do what they're doing. And so there is certainly an interest from areas of the public to do that. And then it becomes almost like a mob justice thing at times as well. And that scenario where people will wear colors of a certain vigilante and like all kind of... want to get the spoilers here for Daredevil. I know you've not seen it, but they'll wear the colors and represent who that vigilante is and beat up the perceived bad guys, that kind of stuff. So there certainly is, I think, an encouragement from the world of superheroes to then fulfill this kind of vigilantism, because in our world, there is vigilantes do exist. their own kind of a vigilante go a justice kind of system which is illegal and is punished but in a world where superheroes exist it brings the campiness of it and after they wear the special costumes and that kind of thing it's and just like you'll see occasionally this guy wear a full Batman outfit and goes fights crime at night kind of thing in real life was that not in the news recently where it was a guy in Mexico, i think he dressed up as, maybe not Batman, but
Real-Life Vigilantes
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they used the image of Batman to make the comparison. But basically he was targeting thieves and things. And what he was doing was was he was taping them to poles. Amazing. but like Spider-Man? Essentially. Yeah, it's just all these people mummified and taped just on these lampposts and things. It's like, okay, first of all, how are you carrying that much tape on?
00:12:49
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ah' without them hearing you, you know? It's like you're the teacher and might hear academia. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. Yeah, i was like, oh my God. I mean, fair dues, everyone needs a hobby. At the same time, I'm like, that is just absolutely wild. But yeah, I mean, I suppose you would get cult of personality because I
Spider-Man Insomniac Game Features
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don't know if you've played the Spider-Man Insomniac games, which the first game is absolutely fantastic. One of my favourites of all time. But they have a very interesting thing where they've got apps and things to track where Spider-Man is. And I think they're doing it in new film brand new day but it's like he tweets out and everything and they respond and it's really cool because you would have that divide wouldn't you where it's like i mean i suppose it's like nowadays celebrities where it's like you've got half of them that would try and have that street levelness to them you know like your friendly neighborhood spider-man but then for the avengers i don't necessarily think they would be roaming about would they The big guys, you're not going to see them just all the time. But I think there's a difference in MCU universe and the Marvel comics, that kind of thing. Because like oh yeah if you get into Marvel comics, you've got mutants and other people's superpowers and stuff like that. And so it becomes like a more common thing. So you probably are going to encounter someone with some level of power. Maybe not every day, but pretty frequently. But in the MCU, it's not so... super common to have powers, at least not yet, because they haven't introduced mutants properly, at least, into the MCU. So I think, for the time being at least, it's unlikely you're going to see anyone that has these powers, unless you live in New York. New York seems to be a bit of a hotbed. Jesus, yeah. I genuinely never considered this up until someone brought it up, and they're like, you do realise how many superheroes there are in New York? And yeah, you've got the Avengers, you've got Spider-Man, you've got the Punisher, you've got Daredevil. I mean, ghost rider does he hang about there are maybe i mean he's not in it yet is he uh nick cage we love you but we don't yeah no i don't think he is was he not supposed to be though in a side tangent was he not supposed to be oh he was gonna the deadpool movie i think and the devil wolverine one i think yeah i guess i don't think it worked out or something like that but yeah no there was talk about him being in it i think that's a shame actually well is it a shame maybe remember when he pissed fire Remember when they pissed fire in the trailer and then they put the exact same trailer shot in the movie? Like it was literally standing on a black background. Terrible movie. I paid to see that in the cinema. The best Ghost Rider that was when he was in the Fantastic Four cartoon. He rocked up and is defeated. Oh, Galactus. Galactus with the powers of hellfire or stare or something? Yeah, it's the penance stare. And he's like, why don't you just do this all the time? Like, this seems to just defeat everyone. And you're just like, no, that's stupid. He's like, motorcycles away. He's like, I'm away. i love how you're giving them the Skeletor voice. Yeah. Anyone who's a skeleton has the Skeletor voice.
00:15:43
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You know what? Can't argue. Having skin and muscles and that kind of thing, it changes your voice. If you don't have that, you just sound like Skeletor. Nah. Until we meet again. Just motorcycles off. Oh, God. Right, here's a question for you. Speaking of terrifying, well, sorry, speaking of terrifying superheroes, because don't get me wrong, it would be absolutely terrifying to see a supervillain out there. Whether it's something low level, you know, they're robbing a bank or whatever, and you go, great, I'm going have to go down the roads and lift money at another account. Are you sorry? know, I know, don't.
Scottish Language Differences
00:16:17
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Are you lifting the money or are the bank robbers lifting the money? Column A, column B. Oh, I see. Are we going to get into this? This episode, yes, we are. So as long-term listeners may be aware, Andrew and I, of course, went to uni. And him and I have very, because we live on different coasts in Scotland, we have different ways of saying certain things, which, you know, is all fair and good. But one time I said I was going to go lift money, which to me means I'm going to an ATM machine. But I know, ATM machine, chai tea, you know. Nanbred. Nanbred, yeah. But I was going to an ATM. Pin number. Yeah, pin number, yeah. And you just got the list off. I'm done. I can't think of any more. Halfway through the episode, I've got it. But yeah, I said I was going to lift money, which means I'm going to take my bank card, which I legally have. I'm going to legally put it in the machine, put my pen in, and then I'm going to take money out the machine, which I say I'm going to go lift money. But you took offense to that.
00:17:15
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Offense is a bit of a strong word. I questioned what that meant, given it sounds like you were going to go rob a bank. Well, I mean, the bar of lava didn't help, to be fair. I'm pretty sure there's a cadence of lifting a joint or something like that, which means robbing the place. Is it, though? I think so. And everyone we asked agreed. And they were like, yeah, that sounds like you're going to rob someone. Well, no, there was one other person from the rest of Scotland. wasn't. Every single person thought that you were rubbing money. They weren't from the same place, so they don't get a seat. One of them, I think, was. I think one of them was also like, no, I've never said that my life. I think it's a you thing. I think you just rub banks.
00:17:52
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How do you think I fund a Fair. True. It ain't Patreon. just describe Please to subscribe to our Patreon. Patreon.com forward slash chat tsunami. If you want money in your bank... put that in mind if you don't want money your bank i was gonna say for legal reasons that's a joke but the sad thing is physical banks at least in scotland i don't know how it is over there they're all closing the physical banks you up the road and everything yeah it's really annoying yeah it's a pain so they're all shutting down so here's the question for you before i go back to my original question how are you gonna rob a bank yeah exactly what are supervillains gonna do it's all gonna be digital isn't it it's little hack commit fraud yeah
00:18:31
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No, that's not fraud. No, but it's like identity theft is not a joke, Vulture. I mean, would catfishing be on the rise for these supervillains? Well, there was in She-Hulk Attorney at Law, there's a whole thing where i think it's like a Asgardian elf or something person can shapeshift and she like shapeshifts and like catfishes people. She pretends to be like Cardi B or Megan Thee Stallion or something. I think was Megan Thee Stallion. Whoever She-Hulk twerks with at the end of that. Yeah, it's Megan. the stallion which yeah i have to say i had no idea who that person was everybody genuinely and i might stoke the ire of a few fans over it out there but genuinely people were getting so mad at that scene online and they're like oh my god why is megan the stallion in staion and that show and i'm like i have no idea who you're talking about they kept posting that video over and over again i'm like i don't know what's going on andrew are we old
00:19:22
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It's like during the World Cup when the American camera people keep panning to the crowd and like a celebrity and the commentators like, I don't know who that is. Who the hell is that? Oh, how depressing would that be? Can you imagine if there was like a superhero at one of these events and you know, it panned around and they just get no applause or anything? How bad would your ego be hit
Superheroes' Marketability Debate
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for that? Poor Hawkeye. I know they make jokes on it and everything, but surely there's like a tier of... I know you mentioned the boys before, but there has to be a tier of marketing and PR, mustn't there? How are they funded? Well, there's Iron Man. Yeah, well, Iron Man just has the money and he has his own sales of technology stuff that he does for contracts and whatnot. But not arm steels anymore. No. I just want to point that out. Things are very close to that, though. He's definitely making weapons. We'll give you the Gagent system, but not the actual missile. Yeah. That's not better. That's not better at all. Advanced drone system. I guess, it is' theoretically, hasn't given that to anyone except Spider-Man. There was actually, although it's one where Tony ends up being the villain, but I do remember that, where he makes a suit that i think is alive or something, but he has this, I can't remember what it is, in the comics, and it's like he manages to, and again, I don't know if it's like a nanobot thing or whatever, but he manages to cure people of their ailments, because he even cures Daredevil of his blindness, but the effects are only temporary, unless you sign up to a subscription service. What the hell? Yeah, it's like in the one that I'm like, that is diabolical. And on the other, I'm like, yeah, that tracks. That's a big pharma kind of thing, isn't it? Yeah. We could cure this, but we've got good thing that'll just help you for each month instead that have to keep paying us for. Didn't we used to just pay a one-off fee for this? That's it, you've been warned. a Ghost Rider, get him. Meh.
00:21:10
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Not the pen and stare. They're in my eyes. ah Anyway, so Nick Cage aside, here's a question though, going back to the original one. Back to the Cage. Yeah, back to Nick Cage. What would be the one superhero you would be terrified to see in public? Hulk. Well, okay, yeah, maybe. Well, yeah. He has no control of what he's doing. Well, unless you've got that weird one that brings you tacos or whatever it is. Oh, Smart Hulk, yeah. Yeah, Smart He dabs. He's so cool. Oh, yeah. In 2019, he dabs. Yay. Thanks, guys. You really know what the kids want. But no, okay, Hulk aside, the reason i ask is I was thinking back to when my friend Wisteria Moth and I did the Living in the Sonic World. We said basically that Sonic would be like the Mothman of that world where it's like... What, like he's a cryptid? More like he's a signal for something bad that's about to happen. So like if you saw him, you know he's going to be fighting a giant monster or giant robots or whatever. But surely, you know, if you saw like a run-of-the-mill Hawkeye or don't know, maybe Ant-Man, I suppose. Because I know he's maybe a lower- know he's an Avenger, technically.
00:22:21
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I mean, he is! I like his memoir, okay. Mr. Ant-Man, please don't kill me. But what one would you look at? If you saw him in public fighting, what one would you look at and go, oh my God, something's going to happen. There's going to be, I don't know, fire and brimstone coming out the skies. There's going to be an alien invasion. Well, mean, Thor would probably be a pretty big one, because his whole thing is like there's a lot of big fights, big destruction kind of thing. So if he was fighting against someone, there's probably be a lot of destruction. I mean, like, again, Hulk fits into that as well. It's a pretty big scale situation. So I think that would probably be pretty scary. Also, Hulk doesn't really show up Earth unless something's going down. So you'd be pretty worried if Hulk was there. Do you know what would be, I'm throwing you a curveball here, but do you know what would be a weird one? The Fantastic Four. Sorry, before you go are we talking their world, Fantastic Four? are we talking when they get to us? Because we don't know them yet. If we're in the main MCU, they're just rocking up in their spaceship. I mean, more in terms of between the Fox films or just in general with the comics, let's say if they all coincided with one another. And legal issues weren't a problem. For sure. But you're either going to get the lamest villain ever, or you're going to get the literal eater of worlds. There's no in-between with them. There's like an orangutan. He's called Red... oh something. Oh, what's he called? It's something stupid. Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like you're either going to get the dumbest villain popping out and you're like, oh, yay, the Fantastic Four are here. Or you're going to see Galactus and you're going to go, oh, shit. Red Ghost. The Super Apes. Please tell me you're making that up. The Super Apes is general term given to the name of the premise used by the Russian scientist and criminal Ivan Kragov, a.k.a. the Red Ghost. Oh, for God's sake.
00:24:00
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I think even in the MCU Fantastic Four movie, when they do that quick compilation of the various villains they've beaten, and Mr. Fantastic kicks this orangutan into the water. He says, we defeated Red Ghost and his super apes. Yay. They'll have like Mole Man, Red Ghost, and then, yeah, Destroyer World, Galactus. Yeah. Again, there's no in-between for that, because at least you think, well, I mean, if you see the Avengers, that would be a bit worrying, because you're like, well, why is Captain America and Iron Man and Thor and the rest...
00:24:30
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Unless they've just had shawarma. Oh, God, yeah, that's true. Unless they're relaxing after the credits. You know that joke that they have where they freeze frame, see, after the credits roll and everything? Do you think they're just stuck in a state of limbo and people are just walking around and like, what's going on?
00:24:47
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or everyone is but they're still sentient and there's like trying scream but they can't it's like you're that family guy skit what's going on peter i don't know get help call someone who i don't know and he's just frozen in the air probably like that to be honest but mean thinking of the wreckage new york after the avengers problem do you think insurance is a big thing in that world I reckon there must be some insurance premium kind of thing you can purchase. It's like the super villain package kind of thing where if your home gets destroyed by some sort of super villain event, then there'll be like small print of like if it's extraterrestrial, need to get the extraterrestrial package kind thing. They'll find some way of not paying it out. Oh yeah, 100%. It's like, oh yeah, no, you got blipped. It doesn't count. Because, I mean, that is something that I actually wonder if the comics have addressed. You know, they probably have addressed the blip, but yeah, let's talk about the blip because one of us is going. the coin. Yeah, I'm fine, yeah. I can handle the blip. It's like, you know, when you were younger you always had that one kid who was like, oh, I've got this superpower for a shield that can't be penetrated and everything, and oh, I've got superpowers and blah blah blah. He would be first on the chopping block that's beside the point. but yeah what would you even do with that well I mean if you got blipped nothing yeah
The Blip's Societal Impact
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was gonna say nothing until you came back yeah there's two sides of it there's those who didn't get blipped that then have to pick up the pieces of this world that now is missing probably half the people you know then like It's not like you're family of six and three of you go and three of you don't. There's a good chance that it might be where your entire family gets blipped or your entire family gets saved or one of you gets blipped or five of you do and one of you don't. There isn't an exact, oh, the Smith family gets half of them cut off and that kind of thing. It is kind of fairly random. So you don't necessarily know what the situation will be. Like I come from a family of six. Like I don't know if any of us would get blipped or if all of us would get blipped. Here's the question, would you carry on chat to Nami if I got blipped? I don't know. Have you seen my editing? I will, yeah. It's not that It's non-existent is the thing. Well, it's been blipped. Hey. I have so much time, I can finally get it done. My glasses, no! It's not fair! It's not fair! I had time to edit. Audible doesn't work. Oh, I've only had Audible. Shout out to the Twilight Zone.
00:27:01
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That is the Twilight Zone, isn't it? Correct, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank God. but The scary door. I was going to out myself as someone who didn't know what I was talking about, which, I mean, running the podcast for nearly 300 episodes, I know, shock horror. But yeah, I mean, what is scary to me, I have to say, is not so much that because, mean, don't get me wrong, an alien invasion, people disappearing and things, large scale ones, that's definitely terrifying. But the thing that would worry me about living in the MCU as well is, see, the small things. All the small things. Well, that too. But you've got the event that sets off, I think it's Civil War, where it's like in and the beginning of Civil War, at least in the comics, not in the film, but in the comics. I'm pretty sure the reason that it all kicks off is because it's like a supervillain that's terrorising people, but they send the Z team to stop them. All the reject ones, the ones who aren't even listed on the Marvel website. And it's like, don't worry, we'll stop him. And he blows up a whole town or the whole radius and everything. And it's like, that would be the scary thing if you got a crap superhero to defend you. Because supervillains, don't get me wrong, that's terrible. But what if you got, I don't know, Swarmaman or something? Swarmaman. Yeah, Swarmaman or the Dickens Cinematic Universe coming like Simba Jr. coming of the wormhole. If Simba Jr. was coming to save me, I know I'd be in good hands. you know?
00:28:23
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Do you know Italian, Andrew? Do you know? I know enough. I know I'm not going to be finito, that's for sure. That's the thing, though. The places you and I live, I'm assuming for you as well, we don't live in highly densely populated cities and things. Well, you more than me, definitely. I'm not going to get good superhero.
00:28:44
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I'm going to get a cone man. And it's like his power is putting a cone on top of people's heads. Anything else? No, that's it. I don't know. I'd say if you're around Scotland's biggest city, you'll have some superhero. If you're on the outskirts, then like, no. But if you're thereabouts, then maybe they'll travel over. Maybe they'll get the train over. Yeah, but what if Doc Ock or someone, a big villain, decides to be a dick and I don't know, he sleeps in while he's on the train then? He's like, all right, yeah, let's just destroy this dude. If it's a big enough villain deciding that they're going mess with X place, then there's going to a good superhero that's going be around there. don't know. I'm going to be on. I mean, this is the same world. It's got aliens in it. It's got shapeshifters, which technically is the same. Yeah, I mean, you've got wizards as well, or wizards, witches, that kind of thing. What also thinking, though, is that everything's very coincidental, too. If you're in Edinburgh, Oh, you're gonna get a good one. No, no, yeah, yeah. But no, there'll be an extraterrestrial threat rocks up. It'll also be when Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Olsen are on their honeymoon or something. And they're like, oh, okay, guess we got to suit up and defeat this thing. There'll just be someone who is like a good superhero that just happens to be there. To reference One Punch Man, what you get someone like Mewman Rider or something? You know, it's like you get a guy cycling and he throws his bike at, I don't know, Thanos. Hey, hey, hey. He's trying his best, okay? He is a hero, but I don't want him fighting Thanos, I'm going to be honest. The One Punch Man universe, though, is, like, messed up because cities will just get absolutely destroyed in a second. They don't care about the collateral damage of those shows. There's very little saving that actually happens. Well, true, true, but even still, there would definitely be a cyclist superhero, 110%. There's no way there wouldn't be. Amsterdam man, Tour de France. I multiply myself on the road. gotta get to work! Let me go round you. Gotta leave one metre. can't, there's too many of Well, that sounds like a you problem, citizen. It doesn't even go fast in regular bike terms. It's just a bike. It's not even a fancy bike. It's a street bike. It's one of those. You're the ones you hire in the cities. It's just one of them. It's a Boris bike. My bike was stolen, okay? It's like, oh, Jesus. The reason I asked, though, is because there was a comic that I remember seeing. It was something really stupid, like, Thanos, and this is legit, Thanos helps an old lady across the road. Have you heard of this one? No. No, so he creates this butterfly effect where he ends up helping this old lady across the road, but because of that, one of the women in the bus, they end up being late for a exam. I think it's like for a medical exam or something like that, where they want to be a doctor, but they fail and they don't get into medical school and everything, and then they end up wasting their life. And the reason is because... I was wanting to f**k with this particular person because they found the cure for cancer and what he does just as she's about to die, goes to visit her on her deathbed and shows her the life she could have had before she croaks it. I do remember this actually. What would you do at that point? I mean, is one thing if Thanos or whoever or, I don't know, Magneto or any of the others, they want to destroy your city, right? Okay, fair enough. You know, that's your name. A particular vendetta against you to make your life worse. Yeah, it's what if you look at them the wrong way? That's it. That's game over. You're just going have to love your life looking over your shoulder. Because, I mean, the Avengers aren't going to help you, surely. That sounds like a you problem. Yeah, file it with the police. File it with Tour de France, man. You'll sort it out. I mean, you'd be screwed, wouldn't you? It's impossible to not live in a world of superheroes, isn't it? In this context, yes. Well, yeah, yeah, in this context, but just like in general, you know, if you were living in this world where you had to coexist with all these superheroes, you're always going to see on the news. You're always going to see it on social media. I can imagine there'll be large group of people that are really sick like, oh, I can't have these superheroes again. I don't hear about these superheroes. We're of like politics. Like, oh, don't talk to me about superheroes. not had my coffee yet. Things were better before people started putting superheroes on things. I mean, you're not wrong, to be honest. Because the thing that I found interesting, I'm thinking back to a Wonder Man episode, is remember when the main character can't even get a job as
Marvel's Doorman Clause
00:33:08
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an actor? Well, he can, but he has to hide. Yeah, he has to lie because he's got superpowers and they have this clause called, think it's a doormag. The Dorman, yeah. Yeah, because of a superhero that got so famous and these pibbers basically messed it up. Kill Josh Gad. Yeah, rest in peace, Josh, wherever you are. Spoilers, Oluf dies in Frozen 2. He dies in all of them, let's face it. Sorry kids listening to this. He dies in all of them, but do you think there's exceptions to that, though? For certain superheroes to be involved... Because surely if they said, oh, we want Iron Man to do, don't know, a face mask line, surely they'd be chomping at the bit to get him into that. I mean, obviously they're not going to do it for Ant-Man and the Wasp. Well, I mean, there's going people that enjoy certain superheroes. There'll be some that they think are pretty cool, I guess. They have their personal favourites. It's kind like, you know, how there's those K-pop bands that'll have 30 members in them, and one of them is always going to be someone's favourite. There's some that are going more talented and more attractive than others. was about to say a name, and not just going to ballpark a
00:34:10
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You him. That guy. The one that's on your backpack, yeah. So there'll be some people who will like, oh I really wanted an Ant-Man mask. And they'll be like, you really? You want Ant-Man? He's like, yeah, Ant-Man's my favourite. We're out of port licence. LAUGHTER
00:34:24
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I mean, that's how super villains get created. What, because they're rubbish superheroes? No. Yeah, exactly. I mean, there was that super crooks anime. Is that not the whole plot of that? What? Yeah, he was a shite superhero, so he became a super villain. And the anime, yeah. He nearly electrocutes a full pool of people for making fun of him by accident, but... Oh, I think I'm thinking of a different thing. thinking that heist one. Oh, you thinking of The Great Pretender? I am thinking of The Great Pretender. That's it. Okay, that's fair enough. I was like, they're super crooks. They're really good criminals.
00:34:55
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Well, in a technicality, yes. That's something that we talked about last week when we were talking about Thunderbolts, but see, in terms of licensing and things like that, that must be an utter nightmare. Let's say you and I had superpowers, and I'm going to let your imagination fill in the blanks there. huh, if we had superpowers and then Martin had superpowers and Adam and we're like, right, okay, we're going to call ourselves, I don't know, the Chatsunami Initiative or whatever, and then it's like, oh, no, you can't because better superheroes have got that name. I don't know how they got that name, mind you, but that would just be a nightmare, wouldn't it? guess so. I mean, you take a legal situation as anything else. Depends if you got there first. True. Depends who has the better powers, to be fair. Yeah, do you sort of challenge them to a degree or off? I thought you were going to say a duel there.
00:35:39
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the thunderbolts when they like the new avengers is there's sentry sentry yeah there's sentry who has unbelievable powers but doesn't know to unlock them by the end of the film and then there's red guardian who has some super soldier serum type stuff everyone else is just a normal person oh my god you're right oh no no that's not true because there's captain america john walker he also has super so bunch of them like super soldier serum because bucky also just has super soldier serum they really are it's a really bad team aren't they They really are. I know they want to make it the kind of, know this isn't the point in the episode, but I know they want to make it their suicide squad. I mean, that was the intention of the Thunderbolts. It was like Thunderbolt Ross's suicide squad type thing. But as an Avengers team, it doesn't really make sense. But also the Thunderbolts, I'm pretty sure had a more varied cast of people with powers, whereas they don't have that available to them in the MCU's context. I guess it wouldn't make sense. Was Wolverine not part of the Thunderbolts? Wolverine's been in like every team. Like I'm not exaggerating. Wolverine has been in the Fantastic Four. Wolverine has been in the Avengers, in the X-Men, the X-Force. No, the reason I ask, and this is how I found out he was Canadian, because think it was the old X-Men cartoon and I was fucking through.
00:36:47
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I've just bunches of superheroes that popped out and they're like, oh, we're your old teammates. And i'm like, who the hell is that? It was like, I don't know, Captain Canada or something over here. So he's been on an X-Men, X-Force, Uncanny X-Force, Alpha Flight, Astonishing X-Men. Sorry, the Canadian Army singled in that list?
00:37:06
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plus team x department h slash department k shield the canadian army the new fantastic four the secret defenders the savage avengers the hand horseman of the apocalypse and hydra when he was brainwashed so why is the canadian army singled out in that list Because he was in the army years ago, World War I, World War II kind of thing. Because he's Canadian, so he didn't sign up for like the US Army or the British Army. he was in the Canadian Army. No, I know, but it's just this like a weird thing to be like, oh, here's all these fantastical teams. Hey, hey, hey. And the Canadian Army. proud Canadian Armed Forces do us proud, okay? They're out there on the front lines against superhero threats all of every day. So I don't want to hear anything about Wolverine being in the Canadian Army. I mean No shade to the Canadian army. the He stormed the beaches of Dunkirk, getting bullets into him. His teammates didn't have that luxury. Sorry, I think you got Dunkirk mixed up. We were running away from Dunkirk.
00:38:06
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Wait, what? Normandy. He was charging the beaches of Normandy.
00:38:11
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He charged the beaches of Normandy. I said Normandy from the beginning. know what you're talking about. always said Normandy. So he's charging the beaches Normandy and he's like, all good. But his teammates, they're taking bullets for him. I mean, that would explain why we were running away.
00:38:26
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It's like, where are you going, Bob? It's only like i did a history degree. What, us do history? Nah, definitely not. History month when episode will discuss this phase of history. We'll discuss why Wolverine's the cause of North Korea's formation. Speaking of Wolverine, actually, and the X-Men moving away from the Canadian army. If we must. Yeah, I know. Begrudgingly, if we must. But that is also the confusing thing as well, because I have never... Like, I get the story beats, seeing the comics and the shows and everything about mutants. People hate them and everything. But I still genuinely don't understand why they hate mutants, but they love superheroes. That always baffles me. It is the difference because mutants are born with their powers. Yeah, it's one of those things where it's... Well, for one thing, it's also because it's an allegory for several different things. of them being the Black Civil Rights Movement and also the Stonewall LGBTQ movement as well. So there's whole bunch of stuff in there as to why they're represented as these oppressed groups. But then also because they don't have cool superpowers all the time. Sometimes it'll just be like, you look like a porcupine. And so it's hard to integrate into society like that. seeing these standalone films, you know, where the X-Men are the central superheroes of the world and everything, that I understand. It makes more of a narrative sense. But do you think people would care as much if, and I know we're definitely probably going to find out like Doomsday or any the other films coming up when they do eventually integrate the X-Men into the MCU, but do you think
00:40:04
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people would be as concerned that a mutant saving in them or an X-Man or whatever our versus like a Thor saving them or something. it's one of those things where if you're of use to someone then you're much more likely to be treated better. So like if the X-Men came in and saved the day you're like oh, wow, so cool. Thanks, guys. Love you. And then you walk down the street later that day and you see Porcupine dude and you're like, ah get away from me, freak. Do you know what it reminds me of? You know that meme? it's like are as Harassment. Yeah, the person's flirting. And the other superhero is like, oh, you're so sweet. And then This is the porcupine guy. Like, who? There is, like, hello, human resources. I suppose it wouldn't help the job market either if you had that. Again, from a narrative perspective, I do get the allegories and things that they do bring up for them and everything, and you are, think, regardless, you are always going to get people who are a afraid of superheroes see whether they are mutants or they are just they've got the powers later on in life because I mean I know I keep bringing them up shock horror but look at Spider-Man for example or I mean does Daredevil get the same flack? Yeah I mean Daredevil is one of those things where because you never see him just like out and about he's like Batman he pops up beats some people up and then kind of leaves kind of thing so there's kind of a cult of interest around him from like new yorkers
Media's Role in Superhero Perception
00:41:20
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and then other people who are like scared of the idea of him whether it's a criminal or just kind of general person who's just like oh my god this kind of scary dude in a devil costume comes next like rocks up and beats people up
00:41:30
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kind of thing. So it's also kind of like how the media are portraying certain people. The Daily Bugle will push the Spider-Man as a menace agenda kind of thing. And so whereas other media platforms might push him as more of a hero. And so it's an interesting one where depending on who you are and your kind of personality and who you're fighting kind of thing, it can kind of vary how people are interested in you and how they represent you. I'm just thinking of the way that superheroes are represented, you know, and i can't remember if it was you you was talking to like ages ago about this, but it has come up before where people basically equate when people used to worship up Greek gods and things and they had their old stories about them and whatnot, and they've kind of said the equivalent for us nowadays is essentially these superheroes, although think the difference is that people know that they're not real, but if... hypothetically we were in that world, there would be a lot of worship there, wouldn't there? There would be a lot of people really devoted to these particular superheroes and wanting to be like them, but then on the flip side, as you said, it depends who, and again, it does mirror the real world, that who you decide to quote-unquote worship or follow online or whatever, or whether you want to be like a stan, as it were, it would depend on what is being said about them online because you can't really get away from it, can you? Because in the Spider-Man game, they've also got podcasts and things. I don't know if you've seen that. Genuinely, they've got podcasts instead of the news bulletins, and it's all the facts with J. Jonah Jameson or something that's hilarious. But like in the MCU, because they introduced him having his web show, he's bit like Alex Jones kind of type of thing and popping up on this web show to sort of be like, this guy's a menace. I mean, you would never hear the end of it, would you? If people wanted to hate a superhero because, and again, this is something that does mirror real life, but do you think the attitudes would be different if it was during the 90s and the 2000s for superheroes in real life versus nowadays? I don't You have a different kind of context to the world then. there was pre-911 for one thing. It's hard to say. I wasn't around during those times really. I can't really say how society would have reacted to superheroes being alive and around then as opposed to it would be like now. Now would be very kind of like social media heavy, lot of influencer type stuff, I think. Maybe it'd be more ah evangelical back then. There might be more of a they are gifts from God kind of thing. There might be kind of like a second coming kind of idea for some of these guys. And they kind of might become a bit more homelandry in terms of their own self-worship. Again, it would have been printed media and everything that would have dictated how people felt. And even then, although you would have communities together that would be like, oh yeah, this guy is great. He saved my cat or punched an alien in the face. or whatever yeah that's all great but when you get to the digital age for superheroes it wouldn't be and again it's not that far between pre-internet and post-internet but it would take away the mysticism of it wouldn't it we would have to physically see yeah i know we joked about it before but we would have to physically see the superhero lying about otherwise you would just hear it on the news and think all right they've done this they've done that whereas Nowadays with TikTok and everything, and I know they make jokes about it and the MCU, but it would just be insufferable, wouldn't it? Because you would today definitely have influencers that were purely just chasing these superheroes, wouldn't you? Don't get me started on the podcast. John Marvel falling in middle. and everything. There would certainly be like channels dedicated kind like you have tornado hunters kind of thing where they'll ride country find tornadoes. I bet there'd be similar kind of thing for superhero followers and the people will try and get into the mix and do you know what? That Jake Gyllenhaal movie where he's a journalist. Nightcrawler. Yeah, I bet there'd be lots of competition from journalists to get into the mix of that but big battle that's happening to try and get the best shots and whatnot. And like Spider-Man who steals all of the competition he's like no, only I may take my picture. That's why he became Mysterio. It definitely be a lot different. And again, i think that nowadays in society, it's just like it's so hard to avoid the internet because the internet is, I mean, you're listening to this on the internet, of course, but you wouldn't really be able to escape being bombarded with stories about it or seeing what they were up to or everything. And I think that, looking back to what you were saying at the very beginning of this episode, you said that a lot of people are just very relaxed about the whole thing. They kind of go, oh no, that's terrible, and then they just walk away. I've still got to go to work in the morning, because let's face it, see unless your building's destroyed or whatever, you've really still got to keep loving, don't you? Yeah. You do, you have keep going. Nothing can really change in that regard. You just have to go about your life. So there's not too much.
00:46:05
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As much as living in this world would maybe raise your anxiety levels, raise your insurance premium, that kind of stuff, you're just going about your day. Because, I mean, usually in these types of episodes, I always ask silly questions like, oh, what kind of jobs would you get in this issue the universe and everything?
Careers in Superhero Worlds
00:46:20
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But to be honest, it would be nearly identical, with the exception of there would be specialised clean-up classes, Yeah, I was gonna say there will be specialized jobs that will become a thing, even designing super suits and that kind of thing. and No capes!
00:46:35
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Yeah, there'll be lots of agent-type jobs that'll probably come up, or maybe they'll be already pre-existing agencies for like actors and musicians and stuff that would just kind of open up a department for superheroes. There'll be certain like media teams surrounding them. Yeah, I bet there will be things that come up. I guess nothing that isn't already a thing that just kind of gets expanded upon, though. The thing I find ironic is, and I'm thinking back to Far From Home, where, remember Mysterio ends up, and this is spoilers for the film in case you want to watch it before, but you know how he's got whole VFX team? Yes. And everything, and it's like, that is amazing that although he's the villain and everything, he's still keeping so many people on a job. He does threaten their lives on occasion. I mean, yeah, but he pays them. I mean, I hope he pays them with that non-existent bank robbery. How are they funding this revenge mission that they're going through? The love of the game I'm going to go for because it's like, I mean, don't get me wrong, some of the villains and things are absolutely terrible and, oh, they want to destroy the world and, oh, they want to collect the Infinity Stones or, they want to crack open the multiverse like a cold one. but Some of these villains are keeping the hired goons and things employed. like, I'm going to give some of them props. Not all of them, but what I'm saying is, Shocker did nothing wrong.
00:47:50
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Jesus. That bank was in his way. i Again, for legal reasons that is a joke. But yeah, to be honest, what actually surprises me is, and I know we always joke about it, like when we did our Zelda episode, when we've done the Pokemon episode and the Sonic one and everything, there's always a major difference between them. But would you say that there isn't really much of it I mean, obviously other than the superheroes and aliens living amongst us and everything, but would you say there's much of a substantial difference? The whole blip thing, which we didn't really get too much into, would be the biggest conflict within a general society of losing and half the population. They got scrooged, yeah. Yeah, and like, what? And decrease the surplus population. Oh.
00:48:34
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It's in the Dickens Cinematic Universe! It is in the DCU, my apologies. Yeah. Oh my god, now I'm thinking of Scrooge with the golden one. Oh, anyway, sorry. Caine, sorry. so me Muppets. In the context of the blip, you lose a whole bunch of the population and then they come back and then you kind have to then deal with what that means for the new society you just built and then you have to now accommodate double the people. I mean, they do try to dive into that in the Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but I feel as if it's very surface level. Yes, that's fair. I think it's interesting because they are exploring it more than they have in other media than when they've done things like the blip. Yeah, they've really brush under the carpet don't they they're like yeah it happened moving on they do get into what societal impact there is the start endgame as well you see steve rogers is sitting with a support group of people who are dealing with survivor's guilt for being the ones that weren't blipped and remembering their partners who were blipped and then you have think in wandavision you have monica rambeau when she comes back from being blipped mum had died from cancer she wasn't there and you had other people yeah it's So you have like Yelena who she gets blipped back and she's now in her apartment or something like that. But like someone else is living in her apartment and they all freak out and she's like, oh, sorry about that. And then she comes out. So she finds out that Natasha had died and then she goes on her revenge mission to go kill Hawkeye. So they get into that around that period just after Endgame of what the kind of consequences were. you had that you also in Spider-Man Far From Home. Because they spoil it in the first five minutes, yeah. Or sorry, they don't spoil that for long bit. I'm still bitter about that, sorry.
00:50:08
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the advert where it's like hey guys we're gonna spoil it anyway Iron Man's dead it's like Mr Holland what the hell spoilers but it's been six years come on or seven years technically yeah I feel as if and don't get me wrong there's been hundreds of different catastrophic events you know whether that's in the comics whether that's been in the TV shows and whatnot but I feel as if if we're looking at the MCU in general that would be the worst thing to come back from. We haven't even touched on things like multiverses exist which I've said that before I don't like it but you've got multiverses you've got time travel you've got different dimensions and whatnot but for the blip I think what makes that so heartbreaking is time passes but you've missed those five years and you're just basically plopped five years into the future. Sorry I say that but that's Captain America's whole thing, isn't it? I mean, he was gone for, what, 70 years or something? Yeah, something like that. mean, it varies depending on when the comic books came out. Well, true, yeah. The comic books, if he comes back in the 80s or the 90s or whatever, then it's only been 40 years as opposed to now from World War II, it's, what, 70 or 80 years? Captain America. we need you in fortnight it's one of the saving graces that he didn't announce remember in stars yeah rise of skywalker where it's like they did the whole palpatine speech in fortnight or something i'm glad they never done that for the mcu that would be so funny though see if a supervillain just hijacked fortnight and like this is the only way anybody's gonna take me seriously if i announced my evil plans in fortnight Can you imagine the Green Goblin being in Fortnite?
00:51:43
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Out, am I? I don't know enough about Fortnite, I'm going to be honest. I don't know enough to be like... Ah, tilted towers. That's it. Ah, pluggers. Chat, is this beast? Bus, where are we landing? Misery, misery, misery. Everybody loves a top streamer until they get into a controversy. And this is the final point, I swear. But do you think, whether it's a politician or a celebrity or whatever, they get into a controversy or something? How much of a sigh of relief do you think they have? See, when they do that and everyone's, you know, trying to cancel them and they're gunning for their heads, and then, I don't know, someone decides to attack New York again or something, or attack a place, and they're like, thank God...
00:52:24
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The heat is off me now. So they're doing a banjo apology video and then the Green Goblin blows up a bank and so no one cares what they did anymore? Yeah, pretty much. I better put this ukulele away then. Oh yeah, ukulele. I said banjo, I meant ukulele. Yeah. It'd be so much for a different tone of banjo, that'd be so funny. Apology videos. Superhero apology videos. you saw in Into the Spider-Verse that he advertised his specific product and then did an apology video for advertising that product. is that in The Wonder Man? He also did that. Oh, right, okay. There was definitely a thing with Miles Morales that he did that. Oh, right, okay. But I mean, whether it's a superhero or supervillain, the quality of that video must be amazing. Why? I don't know. It's like, I feel as if certain supervillains, they want to be taken seriously and everything. Surely the production value would go up. I mean, they've stolen the camera, for God's sake, so probably they'd be like, yeah, I want the highest top tier ukulele coming out right now. Or I want the top tier sigh at the beginning going, ah, I didn't want to make this video. And then they just go off on one. Whereas I can imagine superheroes, and especially like the lower tier ones, they have the grainy ass video on.
00:53:31
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Oh gosh, I'm sorry, I'm in the middle of a Wendy's. Remember they were all in trouble like the Sokovia Accord and that kind of stuff. So I can imagine just Captain America doing a video being like, guys, I'm sorry, we killed a bunch of people,
Superhero Public Apologies
00:53:45
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didn't mean to. i'm thinking of that South Park thing.
00:53:47
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Sorry. ah you're Sorry. sorry. We're sorry. Rubbing his super nipple. yeah but Super nipple was not the phrase I wanted to learn today. Thank you, Andrew. No. mean yeah that's a whole other thing as well not rubbing your super having all the accords and things and would you be worried if you're like oh there goes the avengers and then literally the next day you're like why are the avengers fighting in fact you know what would be terrible see if you're going on your jet to holiday right and then you look outside and you see all these superheroes fighting on the runway like on a scale of one to ten how mad would you be at that Yeah, that'd be pretty frustrating. There's a very good chance your flight's going delayed. Is there anything to protect the cost of your flight if it's not been cancelled because of the superhero disagreement that happens out on the runway? I mean, surely it's at all protected or something. I think it was like a military-based airport in Germany. i don't think it's just a standard airport, but maybe I'm... No, maybe it was a standard airport. I'm remembering some of the fights that were happening. Inside, yeah. Yeah, like the gate, the airport gates kind of thing. But there was no one around, though. I know, that is the weirdest thing. It's like an airport with nobody. No planes, no people. Well, I'm trying wonder if it's like a private airport or something. Maybe, yeah. Maybe it's the flights to Sokovia, I don't know. It's like, well, there's not a lot of planes going there anymore. No, it doesn't exist. Did they destroy it? I know they threw it up and they dropped it, but... Well, yeah, they lifted it into the air and then and dropped it. I can't imagine it would survive after that. Well, elbow grease, I'm sure. But don't think they lifted the country up. I think they lifted a city. Or maybe maybe the city is the entire country. Yeah, that's actually a very good point. It's like, how small is this country? I was born in Singapore, and it's a country and a city. Eh, true, yeah. But mean, it's not as small as Sokovia, surely. I mean, it's kind of it's pretty big, I guess, but like... pretty big i guess i don't i don't know the scale of sokovia guess it's small enough that they were able to lift it up with some rocket boosts i completely forgot about that that was a plot point was that not ultron that did that yeah it was ultron yeah again that's the other thing because on the one hand it's like see in all seriousness would you be praying that you had like i know we said before you would be hoping that you had a good superhero but would you hope for a good supervillain as well good in what context Right, good as incompetent, because it's like, on the one hand, you don't want some, and I know it's DC, but you don't want someone like Condiment King running about, or, don't know, Calendar Man or something. I know they're Batman, but it's like, you don't want someone who's like, oh yeah, there goes old man Loki or something. Red Ghost and the Super Apes. Exactly, you don't want anyone like that. You want someone that's not going to destroy your city, but at the same time isn't going to embarrass your city.
00:56:24
Speaker
Your town. I don't know. I think if I'm only getting these low-level scrubs villains, then I think that's probably preferable to getting Galactus. Yeah, like, obviously nobody wants Galactus, but at the same time... Meh. Meh.
00:56:37
Speaker
I just want to eat your world. nm nom nom I'm actually surprised nobody's said earlier. What num num num is Galactazine's a world. Yeah, Galactazine's going num num num num. Me feeding my child. Here comes the world. Num num num num num. But that's the thing though, it's like, obviously you don't want someone to destroy it, but you don't want the money lifter of Glasgow coming in because it's like, oh right, another bank robber. Your super villain name. Yeah, what's your point, Andrew? i have the money lifter. Give me your money and I shall lift it into the air. Do you do anything else? No, that's it. I never really workshopped me on time, I'm gonna be honest. My telepathy powers only extend to cash.
00:57:15
Speaker
don't have cash anymore, it's a debit. Shit. Curses. I've been foiled again by the banking system. It's like stealing a bunch of cards and then having to return them being like, what is your pin number? What am I supposed to do with that this? This legal tent, okay? All I'm saying is you would want someone that's not going to start a podcast and be insanely controversial. You want someone who inspires fear, but not someone who's going to be controversial. think you're getting very wildly off with this one, because why would you care? You'd want someone that's easy to catch. I know, but see to live and day to day, absolutely, 100%. There's living and then there's living. You want someone that's going to give you that race, give you that adrenaline. All I'm saying, if I'm going to Morrison's for a pint of milk, I don't want somebody blowing up the pint of milk. And I'm like, well, how am I supposed to whip my cereal out? Why did you make that sound so weird?
00:58:09
Speaker
That's my superpower. That's payback for the super nipple comments, no problem. wow Yeah, but would you not be ashamed if your superhero and supervillain essentially just had a Twitter beef or they both had podcasts where they were just calling each other out on them? I mean, don't get me wrong, you don't want to get blown up or anything by these... Well, like Drake and Kendrick Lamar or something like that. Pretty much, yeah, where it's like, oh, yeah, you come in my podcast and I'll come in yours, and they're like insanely controversial. It's like, if you're gonna be supervillain or you're gonna be a superhero, you should at least play the part. You shouldn't just be a dick in a costume, essentially.
00:58:46
Speaker
And that's kind of the fine line i think a lot of MCU heroes and villains kind of have. Because as we said, and I swear this is the last point, but you know, you've got your intergalactic threats. You have to think, oh right, aliens are real and shapeshifters are real and mutants are real, etc. But I mean, we already get people like that in real life, you know. Not aliens and mutants and things, but you already get people in real life that are just dicks. So it's like, why would you want to put them in a cape? You're just like, no. Yeah, I don't know you where you're going with this. If you're living in this world, you don't be threatened by having scary supervillains rocking up at your door. So I think having really lame supervillain rocked up is much better than having a big deal. All I'm saying is, I don't want to be in my deathbed. And then Thanos shows up and he's like, I unplugged your mic every time.
00:59:32
Speaker
You were never recording the podcast. And I'll be like, oh, what are your final thoughts? See, just in general, for living in the MCU, and this is something we always say at the end of these types of episodes, but would you give it a thumbs up? Would you say, yeah, would love to live in the MCU, or...
Living in the MCU: Threats and Realities
00:59:46
Speaker
No, no, I would not want to live in the MCU. I mean, it's too big of a threat. Like, the idea of half your loved ones being disappeared for several years at a time, that sounds horrifying. I mean, you don't know that they're going to come back. They might just be gone forever.
00:59:58
Speaker
That alone would be enough to make me say no wanting to live in that world. But just generally, the constant danger you're in just wouldn't be fun. Because also, you're just a regular person, and you just get to kind of sometimes see superheroes about cool in a way, I guess, but not enough justification to want to have your life in peril that much.
01:00:16
Speaker
No, totally agree with you. And I feel as if this is where all these episodes end, where it's like, do you want to live in this world? No, 100% no. Well, what did I say about the Zelda one? I feel like I might have said yes. I i think you said it depends on which one that is, because you've got the Wind Waker one, you've got the Twilight Princess one, so it kind of depends.
01:00:36
Speaker
i would live in the Breath of the Wild universe. That'd be fun. Well, good luck with the Guardians and everything. Oh, you're uncaring them that much. Well, you only have to encounter one, to be honest. Oh, that was a great playthrough.
01:00:46
Speaker
that was a great point patreon.com forward slash chazanami watch out for goats oh so funny but yeah that is the thing though because you do have variations with the comics and the mcu and just marvel shows in general where it's like marvel is definitely a product of its time it's a wee bit like starter in that way where it definitely reflects the society that made it and it's all about superheroes that try to inspire others that try to be better and everything and you can see that with all the films you know whether that is the more grounded ones with the fox x-men one or even spider-man with the sam raimi ones where it's a lot lower stakes so if it was like one or two two superheroes running about, you would probably manage. But if we're taking into account the whole spectrum of Marvel, you know, where you've got, as I said, you've got the mutants, you've got witches and lizards, you've got aliens, you've just got everything to contend with. Whether it was the comics universe, whether it was MCU, you, whether it was everything else, I agree with you. I think there's a lot that's very similar because I think I said that ages ago where I said, oh, we shouldn't do an episode on this because it would essentially be the same as living in our reality. But To be honest, yeah, I think there's just more chance of peril. As she said, especially with all the threats, it would just, it wouldn't be good for your mental health. Let's face it, the blip especially, that was a universal event. It wasn't just us that got affected. Even, i think it's Captain Marvel, doesn't she say that? That it affected other planets that their populations have halved and everything. So even if it would be cool to see the galaxy and everything and see all of this, I mean, if you were an adventurous person, sure go nuts. And I have to say, this isn't the worst universe that we've covered on Chatsunami, because I think the worst one probably would be Warhammer 40k. That would be just like a top no for me, like a flat no. Whereas this one, it's like no with a but.
01:02:51
Speaker
But it's like, no, but if there were certain things, then it would be lovable, i would say. But it's lovable, but I wouldn't say it was ideal for me personally. And I'm assuming for you as well there. Yeah, that's a big fat no. It's gonna be no from me, Tatsu. Unfortunately, we won't be moving to the Marvel world. We won't be moving to the Dragon Ball world. We won't be moving to the... Most of the Zelda worlds, 40k worlds, Pokemon, comemon maybe. Sonic worlds as well. See, I wasn't in that one, and I would move to the Pokemon world, because that'd be fun. But you're scared of giant bugs, so apparently no. Giant bugs! Have you seen the muscles in some of those bugs? You give him a champa flyswatter.
01:03:33
Speaker
You've also got Pikachu, who's just a bug zapper. The particular Pokemon I'm thinking of, Buzzswool, I have seen him in the anime suck dry a Snorlax, and it's one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen in my life. It is vile. If you listen to that episode, I sent it to Adam live, and he was just like, oh my god, and I don't disagree with him. It's horrific. It's horrible. There's a lot in the Pokemon world where I'm like, hmm, I don't think I would have loved there, but I think for all of them, bar definitely 40k is a no-go, but for a lot of them, it's like, yeah, I'd be interested to try it. Maybe a week, maybe a holiday. Maybe a city break, you know? I hear New York's nice this time of year. hear Vermillion City is nice. Tell me about the Bonares.
01:04:15
Speaker
Just as you load the guns. I don't know that depressing though. No, in all seriousness, Andrew, thank you so much for joining the me in this episode and yeah, seeing what it would be like to live in the Marvel Universe.
Guest Reflections and Gratitude
01:04:28
Speaker
No, thank you so much for having me. This was a really fun chat about some of the implications of living in the Marvel Universe. So yeah, i've about a lot of fun. Feels as if I've come away from this episode as different people.
01:04:39
Speaker
But no jokes aside. Yeah thank you. Honestly it's been such a blast.
Podcast Promotions and Farewell
01:04:43
Speaker
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01:05:47
Speaker
Oh no!