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Invincible, Nuzlockes and Duolingo?! || Chatsu Cafe #4
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In this episode of Chatsu Cafe, Satsu is joined by Andrew to discuss what they've been watching and playing this month. From Invincible and The Pitt to Resident Evil and Pokemon, join the Chatsunami duo as they share their thoughts for what's been going on as well as what will be coming up for the show.
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Introduction to Chatsunami Podcast
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Welcome to Chatsunami, a Scottish variety podcast that discusses topics from gaming and films to anime in general interest. Join me, your host, Satsunami, as well as the rest of our Chatsunami team for our takes on these very important pop culture topics. Sir, it's clearly a trap. I accept copyright! That happens three times in the film. Every time that general goes, don't do this one thing, he goes, do you know what I'ma do? That's the exact thing.
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Does it well? She had the pointy teeth? What was that about? She looked like Bilbo when he wants the ring back. but She turned into it. I just want the lightsaber one more time. Parasite says, no, you will get back into your office and work. No, says the man in Zoom. yeah Trousers are for the working man. You're bursting into your hotel room. Honey, we need to go.
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Leave the kids. We can milk an odysh. Oh.
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That's the worst thing you've ever said on any of the episodes. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then you can check us out at our website, chattsunami.com, as well as all good podcast
Chatsu Cafe with Andrew
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apps. As always, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.
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Stay classy and have a... This has been chattsunami. I'm sorry.
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chatsu Cafe. My name's Satsunami and joining me with his beverage of choice is none other than the one and only Andrew. Andrew, welcome back. How you doing?
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I'm doing well. Thank you so much for having me. It's so fun to be back onto Chatsu Cafe for another chill experience of Sunday that just kind of
Celebrating 100,000 Plays
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stays there. i think last time we did this I could see your panda hands just doing stuff and I was like stop that. Screw me out. Yeah. Yeah. I was the only one who had the model that was moving like that episode of The Simpsons. No, only I may move. We are and indeed back in the cafe, as you said, with our PNG g beverages of choice here. And yeah we're just here for, what is it the kids call it? The cozy vibes? Or is that way too outdated now? Yeah, if you start a sentence with, as the kids say, it's definitely probably like five years outdated.
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Probably. This is honestly quite a special episode because we are just hot off the heels of announcing that we reached 100,000 plays with the podcast. So this is why we're celebrating with a thing of coffee. I was about to say a bottle of coffee, but that is not right, is it? No, do I still have my Sunday milkshake thing going on? What's my beverage next to me? Hmm, I actually have no idea. I was gonna say it's been that long since I've seen that picture. You should just keep changing it like Dragon Ball. Now it's beer. Now it's orange juice.
Spider-Verse and Sony Animation Speculations
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Ah yeah, the four kids special, that's it. I'll add it to the board.
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I'm enjoying a jelly donut. That looks very rice ball-esque over there. So out of curiosity, how did you feel hearing that we finally reached 100,000 plays? Because I know you must have been annoyed when kept pestering you saying, look, we're at 9997, we're at 9998 and everything. So yeah, how did you feel about that? It was so exciting. I was really, really pleased for the podcast and especially for you for all the hard work that you put into it. I mean, to be part of it as well is such an honor that I've
Reflections on Film and University Days
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had as many people as I have, obviously not the full 100,000 or for the ones that I'm on, but certainly number of people have listened to podcast that we've done together. And that's huge honor. It was a wonderful feeling to see that we broke the 100,000 mark. This whole podcasting journey has been absolutely fantastic. As I was saying in the 100,000 episodes I did with Martin McAllister, because we went through every season, we looked at different episodes and such, and it is amazing to see how the lessons are distributed throughout the seasons. You know, it's like a lot of the first couple of seasons, they're very popular, it seems, in terms of the lessons, except for the K-pop Demon Hunter episode. episode, which Martin was quick to tell me that he wasn't happy that he didn't get to do that episode. Oh, me too! I was quick on the K-Pop Demon train last summer, and so when I was not included in the K-Pop Demon Hunters episode, I was very insulted. You said it, he said it, and then it was like, is there anybody who doesn't want to do this episode? The amount of people who were like, yeah, I want to do it. I mean, rightfully so, because is it next year, am I right in saying that it's so popular that it's getting a sequel? It's certainly getting a sequel. I think that they are taking fair bit of time for the creation of because think it's Sony Animation Studios. They're notorious for their animation taking quite a long time. mean, Spider-Verse for the example of that. And so I can see that it might be
Discussing Invincible and Fandom Reactions
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past 2027. We might be looking at 2028 for when it actually comes out. Yeah, I honestly keep forgetting about the Spider-Verse sequels because, yeah, it's been so damn long. I mean, I think we're going to get the live-action Spider-Noir series that's coming out. Yeah, there'll be a Spider Noir show with Nicolas Cage soon-ish. I don't what the exact date of that will be. Gestured generically like, yeah, it'll come out. In May. Oh, is it May? Yeah, May 27th. Oh, wow. That's actually a lot sooner than I thought it would be. Are you going to watch it, do you think? I guess I'll check it out. I'm not that interested in it, to be honest, but might be interesting. Beyond the Spider Noir is scheduled for June of 2027. So I would be surprised if Sony Animation have both projects coming out the same year. I would think that they would probably, mean there will likely be different teams working on them so it's possible they can get both animated films out the same year but I would not be surprised if K-Pop Demon Hunters 2 comes out in 2028. Did Sony Animations not make a film about a basketball playing Goat or something recently? Yeah, it's called Goat. I think was about Stephen Curry. It might not have been about him, might have just been because he voices the main character. was one of the producers.
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Funny enough, was there not another film Seawith? It wasn't Sony Animation, but remember it was Pharrell Williams and he had like a biopic. Yeah, with Lego. Whatever happened to that? Did that come out? Yeah, came out and so no one cared. Oh, wow. That's depressing. That is indeed not happy. It's like A Better Man, that Robbie Williams movie where he's portrayed as a monkey. Oh, that is so good, that film though. Have you seen it? Yeah. I've not seen it yet.
The Pit and Pop Culture Parodies
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I really want to. Some of the gents do. Yeah, because my partner and I watched it. Oh, God, it was definitely sometime last year. But it's one of those films that, you know, when some, and again, this is the elevator pitch for it, that people say, oh, it's not what you expected. It's Robbie Williams as a monkey. And you think, all right, is this going to be silly or whatnot? And then you actually sit down and watch it. And it's surprisingly heartfelt. because i remember he was on graham norton the talk show over here and he was saying how think it was his producer or something like that his agent someone asked him if you could have any animal portray you what would it be and i think he said something like oh it would be a lion and the guy looked him and went no no no try again robbie and he went a monkey and they went yeah okay that's better but no it is it's honestly a fantastic film the amount of films genuinely i've just been adding to the list that we should be reviewing because i know that one's relatively old but actually the other film i saw i don't know if you've seen this as see the i swear film is that the one with the guy tourette's Yeah, that's the one. That is an emotional rollercoaster of a film. Yeah, bet. I genuinely could not recommend that film more. It is heartbreaking, it is hilarious, genuinely controversy of what happens at the BAFTAs aside, it's just one of these films that you sit there thinking, oh, it's going to be like, you know those, I don't want to say generic, but you know those British comedies that they take a true story and then they just make it a light-hearted adventure and then it's like, all right, this is an inoffensive
Nostalgia in Scrubs Revival
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film. there's not much in it but with this one yeah they just honestly blindside you every single time and that wasn't great because my girlfriend and i were watching at the same time and there were moments in it where she started tearing up at it and then that set me off and i was just like yeah no we are not making it through this film with a dry eye would wholeheartedly recommend it but did you manage to see that one yet No, I've not seen that one. I mean, I may do at some point, but it's not what I've necessarily thought too much about. I didn't even realise had come out until I had heard about the BAFTA's incident, so that was what brought it to light to me. Yeah, have to say, I was the same. I think I had heard about it before the terrible incident at the BAFTA's, but I did hear about it, but wasn't really that interested in it. And it wasn't until, and this is terrible to say, but it came on Netflix. and I was like, oh right, there's that film about the guy with Tourette's and everything. Yeah, maybe I'll watch it at some point. And then one day was visiting my family and they were just like, have you seen that I swear film? It is so good. You know, you have to watch it, blah, blah, blah. And then we thought, oh,
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right let's put it on this'll be like I didn't expect it to be a feel-good film but I thought you know let's put it on and I'm sure it'll be you know just a fine film to put on in the background and yeah we were hooked from start to finish honestly I would honestly wholeheartedly recommend it because it is such a important film as well to open the dialogue about Tourette's but out of curiosity have you been watching anything and else recently?
Anime Discussions: One Piece and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
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We've been watching a few different things. Just last night, actually, i managed to finally, after 10 years, convince my partner to watch Life is Beautiful La Vita Belle in the original title, which is if you're not familiar with it, it came in 1997, but it's an Italian film set during World War II. And essentially, it's kind of semi-comedic film, but it's also set during the Holocaust. And so it's a Jewish man and his family get taken to a concentration camp and he's trying to make it so that it does not seem as terrible situation for his son. he essentially kind of hides the reality of what's happening from his son throughout the experience. It is an absolutely beautiful film and it's really, really tough. I knew it was going to happen, I've seen it before, but of course I was in tears. My wife, who had a very basic kind of understanding of what it might be about, was distraught. I don't think I've ever seen her cry at a film as much as I did when we were watching it last night. And then her sister was also watching with us, and her sister turned to her and said, did he warn you what this was going to be about? She's like, a little bit. She's like, because I didn't get any f***ing warning about this. She was like, that was messed up. Why did you do that? I mean, to be fair, it is a good film. Although I do have a vivid vivid memory of you giving me the DVD in university, as was tradition at the time, where I'd say, I haven't seen this film or whatever, and then you would just turn up and knock the door. But I remember for that one in particular, and I don't know if I've ever confessed this to you, I'm sure I must have at the time, but remember you gave me the DVD and I started it.
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You know how the intro is relatively, from what I remember, it's relatively upbeat and everything, and he's very jovial and things? Yes. So the DVD cut at that point and froze. but So I was sitting there like, wow, what a cheerful, upbeat
Gaming Experiences and AI Upscaling
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film this is. I don't have to watch any more, that's fine. He's absolutely fine. He loves Happily Ever After. In all seriousness, as you said, it's a beautiful film. So did did you get to watch the rest of it? it's Not at the time, no.
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Oh, okay. ah How was it? yeah Good. I'm so sorry. I hope you've still got the DVD, by the way. It wasn't my fault. That's all I'm saying. Was it one I lent to you rather than... Oh, no. Lent to me. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't a Shawshank. You didn't buy me it for my birthday. I assumed that was probably the case, to be honest. There was a big mixer, because i think I lent you Game of Thrones one time, and there's like a quite a few different ones like that. Yeah. No, you didn't lend me Game of Thrones. You lent me three seasons of Game of Thrones.
00:11:33
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up and so the day I remember the box that appeared, there was the Avatar one. Although you didn't give me the DVD for it, the funniest one I still remember from university was when you were saying, oh you should really watch How to Train Your Dragon. Do you remember this one? Vaguely. Yeah, so I can't remember why, but i must have pulled an all-nighter or something for an essay. I was just really tired. And I remember watching it, and then I fell was asleep at the end. And I kind of woke up at the end like, oh, right, okay, spoilers, he defeats the bad dragon and everything. And I remember you and I went to watch the second film. Before that, actually, because it's one of your favourite films, of course, and your partner's favourite film, that you were like, oh, how did you find it? It's great, it wasn't it? And I was really embarrassed to admit that I'd fell asleep at it, because I didn't want you to think that I was saying, no, it's a terrible film, because it's not. But i was like, yeah, no, it's great, and oh, it's fantastic, and blah, blah, blah. And then we went to watch the second film, and at the very beginning, again, spoilers for How to Train Your Dragon 1 and 2, but it begins with
Pokémon Nostalgia and Nuzlocke Challenges
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Hiccup losing as it his leg. Yeah, the end of the first film, he loses his leg and has like a prosthetic limb. It was me asking you, I went, when did that happen? And I remember the look on your face of like confusion and shock. You just went, what do you mean? Like, did you watch this film? And I was like, I'm going to be honest with you, chief. I fell asleep at the end.
00:12:58
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I just didn't have the heart to tell you. And again, they are fantastic films and I did go back and re-watch them because my partner as well, she loves them. But yeah, it was just that moment in uni. I totally let it slip. So retroactively, I apologise, Andrew.
00:13:14
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I still feel guilty about this where during my my third year, you had already graduated from university, but you would occasionally come back to come hang out with me. You'd spend the night over my place. But like it always lined up when you visited with when I had just done like an all-nighter for an essay deadline. So you would come to hang out with me and we'd put on like a film and I would just fall asleep while you'd purposely traveled over to come out. We put like Blade Runner, the original Blade Runner on. You did not like that film. I fell asleep. It was so boring.
00:13:45
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Bye. If I was young at the time, maybe i would appreciate it more now. I've not tried to, but like maybe I'd appreciate it more now. But I was so tired. and i just was not vibing with that film, and so I just fell asleep. I'm pretty sure i did that with another film. I remember at one point, I woke up while you were in there, and I'd had some sort of dream about Pokemon or something, because I woke up and I was like, you don't have badges to train me. Are you okay? You were so puzzled, I remember at the time. Oh, they were some of the best nights, though, to be fair. That was when we went in that rabbit hole of Duolingo as well. We went down the Esperanto rabbit hole. Oh, sorry, Esperanto. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know how we ended up wanting to learn Esperanto at that time. Because I was telling you about a particular class that I was doing about, I think it was Shintoism and the colonial impacts of Portugal and Japan. It went from that to this rabbit hole and then we were like, oh, what's Esperanto? Well, I remember we knew that kanji was the Japanese letters and were wondering what it was called for English words. That's when we learned Romanji, the term Romanji. Yeah. And then we kind of kept going to this rabbit hole on like Wikipedia, I guess, for languages. And then we ended up finding out about the existence of Esperanto. and we were like, what is this? And so we just kept looking more and more into Esperanto and started learning Esperanto. ah Saluto, Nandru. For a good, like, going like two or three months, I kept up with Esperanto. and was convinced this is it. My dad still makes fun of me for this. He's still like, remember when you tried to learn this language? And I'm like, it's the future. You don't understand. Eventually, I came my senses and was like, there's no point learning this. But you you kept going for another like four months. You never told me. You never came to the Esperanto meetup.
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ah You're like, Andrew, I'm red gold on Esperanto now. Why is it said you haven't been on here for the last three months? Oh, that makes me sound obsessive. Andrew, where is your Esperanto? Conjugate now! Say saluto on,
00:15:39
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God, those were the days. Ordering dominoes, falling asleep at Blade Runner and learning Esperanto. You know, some people go out clubbing, not us. Going back to what we were talking about before, what have I been watching?
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Have you been watching Blade Runner? No, I've not,
AI in Entertainment and Ethical Concerns
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in fact, been watching Blade Runner. I have, though, i've been watching Invincible. Oh, yeah. The new season that came out last week, and we're now four episodes in. Have you been keeping up with that? Yeah, so as of this episode, yeah, the first four episodes of season four have come out, and yeah.
00:16:12
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They've been good. I think they've been better than the last season, except for the last episode where it just kind of felt like a filler episode without spoiling it too much. But, you know, if you're worried about spoilers, feel free to skip ahead a couple of minutes. but yeah, it felt like a kind of nothing episode. Invincible goes to hell, and they have a very harsh-slash-atheism talk about, ooh, good and evil, ooh, it's judged by you, and you're like, eh, I could have done without the filler episode. This isn't Dragon Ball Z, what you can afford. See, I'm conflicted with it because like yeah it certainly did feel kind of fillery. There was some level of character moments of him learning, because he's been going through this emo crisis of, is it okay that I killed bad people? Or in some cases killed people for the greater good. The greater good. because he killed an innocent person who was under the control of someone else and the only way to stop
00:17:09
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what was better to happen from happening was to kill the innocent person and so he's very conflicted about that and he's then found himself being more aggressive in his dealing with other people and he's worried that he's going down like a rocky path going to end up like omniman and so he's kind of having this inner conflict and one thing i'll say though is it seems like each episode recently has just been people being like it was okay you did that and him being like i don't know and then it seems like he's kind of come to terms with it but then he's not Which is fair. That's what psychology is like. Just because you've had a good talk from someone doesn't mean you've gone over your mental situation. So I can understand. And there was some good messages in the episode from Damien Darkblood about what he had to do. And the important thing about being a good person is do good in the world.
00:17:49
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And the humans are inherently good. And you just need kind of a push. And you don't need an outside factor motivating you. I enjoy that. I know it does go very kind anti-religious message in many ways, which will rub people the wrong way, but I did find it to be interesting
Streaming Services and TV Production Critiques
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one. There was a lot of animation cheats that noticed through the episode of them falling down the bottomless cavern and just kind of kept just replaying the same kind of shot over and over again. And I was like, this is just killing a lot of time with characters having dialogue while not needing them to move or the background behind them to change in any kind of way. And that went on for a long time. I felt like that could have been tidied up. Like the whole thing about the helmet went on for a very long time. That felt very MCU humour, where it was just like, oh, why do you wear the helmet? And I was like, oh. I actually skipped ahead, and he was still going, and I was like, Jesus Christ, how much do you have to say about this helmet? Honestly, see that? Why do you do that? Do what? Oh, why do you take off the helmet? Do you think I can hear you with the helmet on? And it's like, yeah, cut it there, that's fine, but then they kept going. And people online were saying things like, oh, but it's a clever meta-commentary of the MCU and blah blah blah. Yeah, but again, you could have concisely made that point in half the time. It was the same with, I think it was episode two, I want to say, where they have this weird Star Trek parody as well. Oh, you're talking about the sex thing they kept bringing back. Alan the alien and watch your face. Yeah, that person.
00:19:12
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Yeah, and his partner. And the rest. But I kind of thought, right, okay, that's the invincible level of humor. Okay, fair enough. But the whole Star Trek thing, that was really weird because it was like, oh, haha, they're making fun of Star Trek, but they're not. really saying anything about it it's the same problem with episode four where it's like they'll make fun of something but the joke is haha it's in the show and again i don't know if it's in the comics and they make fun of it in there or whatever but you're just kind of like all right okay so it's like we're taking time away from talking about because i really like the episodes where they flash back to what viltrum omniman's planet was like and then they talk about the scourge virus and everything that was horrific But then, this is Invincible in a nutshell, it's like, you can't have a serious scene without somebody making a joke after it. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you have practically a genocide of this planet, despite the fact that they themselves are conquerors and everything, and horrible, horrible people, but it's a horrific event. And then you've got fucking Seth Rogen going, well, that happened. And you're like, I don't like you. No. I'm gonna be honest. I like the character, but I just think, can you not? Jesus Christ, I thought he was in the room with us for a second. I was like, oh God, lock the door. His whole sense of humor, his being annoys me, to be honest. I semi-tolerate him as Donkey Kong, but that's... better
00:20:38
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That is the line, the red line. But yeah, maybe we should do an Invincible episode at some point in the future because I've got a lot of thoughts. That's all I'll say. Maybe once the season is wrapped up, we'll do a kind of introspection of the season so far or either the season or the whole series. Yeah, because from what I've seen of the, I don't want to say spoilers because to be honest, the comic's been going on for years and I've practically been spoiled by how is Invincible going to wrap up this when character X dies and you're like, oh, you bastard. but then you're like you know what i know what happens i'm gonna read ahead the only major spoiler that i learned was about rex yeah and also i think i learned about what's happening with adam eve right now i think i saw a spoiler about that because there's some moments where i think i wonder how they're gonna adapt that into the show and then other bits where i'm like i hope to god they don't adapt that into the show but i just know they're gonna do it and especially with the fans as well do you what it reminds me of it's like you're the rick and morty fans from the early days yeah screaming the same joke over and over like instead of pickle rick you've got cecil or seesaw whatever that joke was and the mark we can be bees it's funny the first time you hear it but then when you get a thousand redditors yelling that in your ear you're like like okay it's going to old guys It's like, tone it down. But yeah, before I get attacked by the Invincible stans, yeah, have you been watching anything else? To start the new season of Daredevil that came out at some other time, it's interesting. I wasn't fully paying attention to it, to be honest. I think I need to you get really involved with it. I really enjoyed the season one reboot, one that Disney Plus had brought out, but I'll try and get more involved maybe for the next episode. My partner and have been watching season one of The Pit. I don't know if you're familiar with it. You know, funny enough, I haven't watched it personally, but friend of the podcast, Mary Ann, from the Cold Case Kansas podcast, talks about that quite a lot.
00:22:29
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Whenever I'm scrolling through threads or whatever, she's always posting about the pit and everything. I'm like, it must be a really popular show. And that probably is an understatement. It's like saying the bear is a popular ritual Yeah, it's really interesting. I'm not one for like a procedural type show generally. Like i don't really care about cop shows or hospital shows very much, but it's really interesting. And I thought, oh, my parents will really like this. And I tried to find how they can watch it. And it's not even actually available in the UK. I don't know. No, as far as you can tell, it's not yet available. I might be incorrect in that, but I'm pretty sure when I looked it up, it wasn't. Season two is already either fully out or ongoing. We're just catching up on season one right now. But as far as I'm aware, it's not available for people in the UK to watch it. It's really interesting because essentially it takes place over one shift one day. so each episode is about an hour of a shift. in this emergency room of this hospital in Pittsburgh and what they're dealing with. And so you have recurring storylines from one episode to another because obviously people are in this area for hours at a time. And so you'll come back to a family that have their father on deathbed and a kid who's OD'd and the parents are trying to run through all these different tests. People who have come in with injuries from a car crash and all these different kinds of things. of just mainly focusing on the main doctor of the hospital area, what he's dealing with, like his own kind of emotional state, and then the different residents are there, and then it's a teaching hospital, so you have these three students and like what they're dealing with on their first day, and it's really, really interesting. I've not seen any show like this, and especially not seen a like a hospital show like this. It's kind of it like, it reminds me of Junior 24. Do you know I was just about to say that? 24 meets Grey's Anatomy. Yeah, I mean, it is better than both 24 and Grey's Anatomy. careful now because my wife loves Grey's Anatomy and I loathe it is it that bad I've never seen that either ah it's so she loves it and her family loves it but I think it's such crap everyone on that show should be fired for medical malpractice they're also annoying and 24 came out when I was very young so I just remember the jokes about it I remember the Simpson episodes that Perry did it better than 24 itself Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Because they also parodied The Pit, apparently. I think it was the 800th episode, and that was a really weird episode. The San Isle Helper one, yeah, because it was like a veterinary hospital. Because we had just started watching one, maybe two episodes of The Pit, and then we watched that episode, and we were like, oh god, is this a reference to The Pit? Yeah. In social media, they were going, oh my god, it's a Pitt reference. And obviously I've not seen it, so I wouldn't have got it. But genuinely, if you showed me that and didn't tell me it was a reference, I would have just been like, oh right, is this a callback to... Because I really missed it. And this is just such a weird callback. But do you remember the vet from, I don't know, season three or four, maybe from The Simpsons? He throws the hamster into the yeah the basketball. I love that. This is a part of the job i hate.
00:25:14
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It's just so good. Oh, cackle every time. It's a shame he wasn't in it, but I get why, you know, it's a pit thing. But speaking of medical shows, one of the ones that I've actually been watching recently, and I'm really surprised at how good it still is, is the Scrubs revival. Really? It's been good? Yeah, I was really shocked because, I mean, do you remember what happened around season seven, eight time? There was the writer's strike in Scrubs and the episodes went from, oh my God, these are brilliant, they're really heartfelt, but also comedic. And then they took an absolute nosedive. And then it was like, yeah, no, this is rubbish. And then had that weird... Teaching school one, yeah. Because if you watch it on, I think it's Disney Plus... Yeah. It's not like a separate show. Like it continues, just becomes that teaching school one. Yeah. I did a rewatch with my wife and she'd never seen Scrubs before and she really, really enjoyed it. But I wonder, I was like, and she could tell because of how bad the episodes were becoming at that point as well, when you had the new characters being introduced, that I was like, it's going to get much worse and we're going to off to a teaching school, a bunch of characters we don't see anymore and that kind of stuff. I don't think I even finished that season, to be honest. I don't remember if I did or not. I think I watched the first episode, maybe, and I was like, yeah, I'm done. I didn't even like season eight, to be honest. Was Dave Franco in the school one or in the later seasons of the not school one? Em. might have been the school one, but honestly can't remember. There were so many characters that they introduced and I've heard people say, oh, they like those interns and they like these characters. It just didn't hit the same for me. And again, that's, you know, the risk of a long running comedy show and everything, especially the amount of episodes that are in each season. I mean, not as much as Chatsunami, of course. 50 a season. But, you one day that wouldn't be the case. I mean, it was bound to happen, but it's still an absolutely fantastic show. But the revival, I wouldn't say it's as great as, you know, the golden era of it. I'll have to rewatch the whole thing before we do an episode on it. But honestly, it is a lot better than I thought it was going to be. And genuinely, I kind of sat there thinking, wow, I mean, granted, there's some annoying bits, like there's a British, well, an English doctor who keeps bringing up about how terrible the American healthcare system is. And it's, you know, that way, it's like, yeah, we get it.
00:27:34
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That's the whole point of the show, to show they're treating these patients despite these conditions. Oh, did you know that we have the NHS and I can't do this? And you're like, oh, I get it. Why are your schools like Call of Duty? Pretty much. In the line. There's another weird bit where he phones someone's insurance company and apparently it's implied that he calls them the C-word. And, you know, it's like, oh, I don't know how they do it across the pond, but over here we don't do that, blah, blah. blah And you're like, eh, okay. Hey, okay. This is the tone we're saying.
00:28:09
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But again, see, despite that, what is really surprising is just how it still feels, despite the minor flaws, it still feels relatively heartfelt and it still has that comedic tone. But also what's really depressing is, see, when you watch the early seasons and you see how young they look and how young they are, and obviously they lean into that and they joke about it that, oh, they're not as young as they used to be. But, man, it's depressing, man. Obviously it's not a fault the actors themselves because some of them genuinely do look incredible after all this time but yeah I would honestly recommend it. I can't believe I'm saying that about Scrubs after all those years but i genuinely would recommend it because is yeah no it is worth the watch. There is one major thing that I really don't like about it but again I'll save that for an episode. yeah I'll have to check that out then. We have been meaning to watch it and we have been meaning to watch the new season of the live action One Piece as well. Oh yeah, I've only watched a couple of episodes of that, but it's actually not been too bad. of season two? Yeah. Okay, yeah. I've only watched one or two episodes, and again, I fell asleep. Not because it was bad, but yeah it was a long day. To be honest, it was a long day. And I was like, yeah, I'm not in the headspace to be watching One Piece. And yeah, it's still good though. It is a lot of fun. I would say we'll have to do a One Piece retrospective, but I am going to have to go to BBC iPlayer and just watch the whole thing. Did you know that? That BBC have the rights to broadcast it now. Oh, it's the live action Netflix One Piece. Oh no, the actual anime. Oh, the anime. Yeah. Oh.
00:29:44
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I think they've got all a thousand episodes. I could totally be wrong, but yeah, for some reason. Yeah, you can stream it from BBC iPlayer and that's not a plug or an ad or anything, genuinely. It confuses me as much as it does everybody else. I'm like, BBC? Really? Okay, fair enough. So yeah, I'll get to watching and maybe we can do a retrospective in what, 2050, maybe?
00:30:06
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You should get one of those things that tell you what episodes to watch to avoid the filler. i have to admit, I do love to see the, i think it's like TikToks and reels and things, where it's like, what would happen if X was paced like a One Piece episode? And as you know, the music is like, dun, dun, dun, dun. And it's them making a sandwich, but it's just repeating over and over again, them putting on the bun. Oh, it's so stupid, but the same time, it's just so bloody. funny it there was a project called it one pace or something like that it was going be like a fan-made thing of cutting out all the various filler to make it more watchable i've never watched it i remember people talking about it at the time and they're gonna do essentially a reboot of the entire show in a different kind of animation format of an animation studio just telling the story in a much kind of more brief way i guess it's not dissimilar to the live action but there's like slightly different from that or know where we're at with that if that's still happening or not because i'm not hearing updates about it but that'll be interesting to see if they do end up doing that because it is unfortunately such a mountain climb for anyone who wants to get into it now mind you there's so many flashbacks at any given moment that if you just jumped into the series now you could probably catch up just by continuing to watch the show as it goes on because it'll just be like remember when this happened and was telling you like there'll be an episode that just flashes back to x thing because there's been a hiatus the last like few months actually but there'd often be an episode that'd be like solely dedicated to here's the context for what you're about to see here's all the stuff that happened with these guys and i'd be like i've already seen this i don't care and i just don't watch the episode but for someone such as yourself who's not seen it if you wanted to just get into one piece just from where we are now you could probably do so I mean, that's fair, to be honest. I'll have to add it to the list and just power through it. And that is totally not a segue to tell you that the other film that I watched, and I don't know how to feel about that, speaking powering through, was that Wicked for Good, which finally came out. As in, came out to higher, not to cinemas, because I definitely missed the boat for that. But yeah, it's all right. I mean... I'm not big fan. I like the musical, although I do think it goes on for a wee bit at times. It's like, we get it, the Wizard of Oz is evil.
00:32:11
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<unk>s like Come on, wrap it up. and But yeah, did you see it? I've not seen the second one, no, because I watched the first one because we have our beautiful baby boy now. I was in charge of making sure there was someone to watch him while my wife and her sister went off to watch the second one. So they did go and watch that back when it came out. i want to say like November and they really enjoyed it. So all good for them. But I just don't have much desire to watch it. Yeah, because I think the only reason we watched it, I was down visiting family and we saw it was available for hire and we thought, oh, you know what, let's give it a go. Although I've seen the musical and everything, I haven't seen the first part of it. I've seen the second part and I'm just sitting there like, yeah, I'm sure I'll catch up.
00:32:53
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And it just literally begins with the Wicked Witch of the West just blowing up the road and everything. You're like, oh, this is going to be a fun film. Yeah, it's good. But yeah, probably not my cup of tea. That's fair enough. I saw the musical on the West End Dean 20 years ago. and i enjoyed it. I thought it was fun, but I was never super into the movie adaptations of it. ah It was nice enough. It was fun. I enjoyed that people had gone enjoyment from it. That's nice. I just didn't really care. The last film I actually saw at the cinema was Avatar Byron Ash back in December. And that was really good. I know a lot of people are very mixed on that. I had a good time with it. Avatar for me is the biggest popcorn flick. I know that I'm not watching a fantastic story. Arguably it's a lot of rehash from what we just saw in the second one. But I had popcorn, I had a drink, I had three hours to kill, and it was a nice watch. I had fun. That was fun. Tomorrow, actually, the time recording this, we're planning to go see Project Hail Mary. Oh, I've heard that's really good. Yeah, so I've heard some really good things about that. My wife's parents had just seen it and they said it was so good. You guys will have to see it. I was like, it's a bit tricky with the baby. And they said, we'll look after if you guys come tomorrow and you can go to the cinema. it So we're like, all right, fair enough. The plan is to drop a little one off with them, head out to the cinema to watch that and then come back and hang out with them for a little bit before going home. So that'll be a fun time. Hopefully it's as good as people say. Because I think...
00:34:06
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Martin's seen that as well. The only reason i found out ironically enough was i was scrolling through i think it was Instagram and he had posted one of his workout videos and it was just like the Project Hail Mary music in the background and he was saying how it was like a great film and everything I was like I had no idea you went to see that. Fair enough, but I heard people talking about it, saying it was a great book and everything, and despite spoiling the twist of it a bit early, which I've also heard, that, yeah, regardless, it seems to really be taking everyone by storm, so... Yeah, I'll really be interested to see what you think of it and then I'll have to get my backside to the theatre because I genuinely, I can't remember the last time I was at the cinema. In fact, the last time I was at the cinema might have genuinely been when I went to see Clash. deny and I don't mean in 1995 I mean when they had their 30th anniversary at one of the local cinemas and I was like yeah so me and my dad went to see it it was cool it was really amazing to watch it on the big screen but I genuinely think that might have been the last film because I honestly haven't been in a good while well I'm looking forward to us doing an episode on the Devil Wears Prada 2 so you'll have to get out to the cinema for that Oh, of course. Let me just get Miss Sunami on the phone.
00:35:22
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yeah Because the last film I think that her and I saw was Sonic 3. You know how to treat her, don't you? Oh, yeah, absolutely. You told me we were going to see The Devil Wears Prada 2. Yeah, well, I say a lot of things. Yeah, instead of watching The Mandalorian and Grogu, so buckle in. Oh, God.
00:35:41
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ah forgot I forgot that was coming out. I think that's coming out the same month. and I think they're boths coming out in May. Oh, yeah, so they are. Is this the The Grogu wears Prada. You know what? Someone will make it happen. and No doubt. And if you're listening, Disney, give me a cut of the money, for God's sake. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else. Oh, yeah, because I've written down a couple. I completely forgot that I watched the new part of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
00:36:06
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Oh, yeah. Steel Ball Run, yes. I remember there was lot hype for that one. It was be the year Jojo's. So this is the weirdest thing ever. I don't know if you've seen the discourse around this, but genuinely, for some reason, Netflix got the rights to distribute Jojo. And I remember at the time when I got into because I got into it during the lockdowns, I watched part one to three in Netflix. Then part four, for some reason, they didn't have it. I don't know if it's because of licensing rights or what, but i had to go to Crunchyroll, which I think back in the lockdowns, they were fine. Nowadays, maybe not so much. But yeah, I watched it there, loved it, managed to watch part five. I remember I did all those episodes with Blowfish Man TV back in season one. And I remember saying to him, oh, this is going to be great. You know, by the time we finish part five, part six will be out. We'll be able to review And they did had this really weird thing where they kind of... stilted the release schedule so it was like they released it in three batches but there were three completely random batches like oh we're gonna have one during Christmas we're gonna have one during the summer and they never announced it so then they started moaning saying why is nobody watching this and it's like well you're not telling anybody that's coming out maybe i'm just i've not got my ear to the grindstone in this one but genuinely i had no idea that this part was coming out and then i saw it on netflix and my partner and i watched the first episode it was like that scene from toy story 2 you know with woody going yay where's the next episode and it's like that's it that's the only episode it's like yeah they've only released episode one and they've not told people when the rest of it's coming out on it's really weird because then they're saying oh it's okay because they've got i don't want to call it a jojo con but it's like some kind of ted talk announcement thing where it's like oh we're gonna announce when the other episodes are coming out and it's like well wouldn't it have made more sense just to you know release the episodes and it's like oh no but production turmoil and blah blah blah and you're like yeah, Netflix has really screwed Jojo over. Which, as a scientist, never thought would be saying, but... I mean, the first episode was alright, but again, if you're gonna release one episode, why? That is odd. Well, then pivoting to a different medium, what's been going on with you and video games lately? Honestly, not too much to be honest, other than Resident Evil. I've been deeply spiralling into playing Resident Evil Requiem, which can't even remember but if I've been spamming you about this to be like, this game's amazing, you have to play it. But I mean, as of this episode, and I think it only took them a couple of days to actually sell 5 million copies of... Honestly, yeah, this game has genuinely taken both the fandom and I think new fans as well by absolute storm. But did you hear about the controversy? Not so much around the game itself, but the AI one that was adjacent to this game? No, hear about think it was NVIDIA and they released, I think it's the DLSS 5 it's called. And basically it's like a big Snapchat filter. What they do is they use AI to upscale the graphics and everything. But what they were doing was essentially whenever there's a person on screen, it honestly looks like, you know, those TikTok filters where beautifies somebody. Sure. So there was all the memes coming out where it was like the cartoony version and then the DLSS5 version was the really super realistic version of that. And that everyone was just making fun of it. And I think the CEO of NVIDIA didn't help himself because he was like, gamers don't know what they want. This is the future of games. And it's like, is this why RAM's a million dollars now or something? Have you heard about this controversy? No, no, I've managed to bypass me a little bit. It was just bizarre because it wasn't just for Resident Evil Requiem. They showed off other games like, i think, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield as well. Bethesda seemed really into They're like, oh, this is the future of Starfield. And it's like, no, that game was boring. I'm sorry. but going back to the games that I've been playing yeah that game I have been absolutely addicted to I've actually played through it six times just to get through all the different challenges and everything and I did the review of it a couple of weeks ago as well which yeah if you listen to this episode definitely go check out after this but no it was a fantastic time but what about yourself have you been playing anything recently So I have once again entered my Pokemon era. Oh, hell yeah. Every several years, I'll say, I'll fall back down the Pokemon rabbit hole. And i think this is the furthest I've fallen down the rabbit hole in many a year. I think because it's the 30th anniversary, i was like, oh, that's cool. I was playing Pokemon Diamond long time back. I got Pokemon Diamond for the Switch. years ago and like i'd played it i think to mostly completion in terms of just the storyline but on the pokedex there's other little side stuff hadn't done so was like i'll go back and i'll play a little bit of pokemon and i was like this is fun i was enjoying myself and then i was getting more involved and i saw that pokemon were doing like a 30th anniversary announcement of games and their stuff that's coming out so i put that on and i started watching it firstly i saw the announcement stuff about pokopia which i'd already kind of heard some bits about but i was like oh it's really cool but it's only for switch too I only have Switch 1. don't have Switch 2. I will probably eventually get a Switch 2. But right now it's out of budget. So was like, oh, really, really want to play that. But can't right now. But they announced that they were bringing back Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green on the Switch. And not just Switch 2, Switch 1 as well. And so you could buy that for the game console on there. Literally as soon as the video finished, because then they said like it's out now. And was like, shit. So I grabbed my Switch, went to the e-game shop and just immediately purchased it and then jumped back in put my Switch into its dock and then had Pokemon Fire Red in full TV screen. Context, Pokemon Fire Red was my game. I played this game probably more than any other game ever as a child, but it was always on this tiny little Game Boy Advance and because the DS had a little kind of cartridge thing so that play a little bit the DS. But that was the largest screen that I played on. But to have it on my big TV in the living room, playing with a game controller, I was like, my eyes were wide. I was so happy. My wife and her sister, I'm thinking it's like, it's so cute. They were not Pokemon people. And so I've been kind of introducing to them how this all works, things that I've been trying to convince them to kind of get involved. But of the things that's been a negative for that in terms trying i convince them is I decided I'm an adult now. i need to make this a little bit more challenging for myself. to make this a Nuzlocke run. Oh, no.
00:42:31
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And of course, them who've been like, that's such a cute little Pokemon. And I'm like, oh, well, Larry the Pidgey that we got is now dead, guys, and we can't use him ever again. They're like, what do you mean? And so they were increasingly getting so enchanted by this game and then horrified when these Pokemon, I'd be like, you want to help me name them? And they're like, yeah. cool. Houdini the Abra. Oh, Houdini Evolve is now a cadaver. Houdini's dead. Houdini's now in the box labeled R.I.P. And so they've been increasingly upset with how I've been playing this children's game. I'm just envisioning you're having in your Omni-Man moment. like Look what you made me do, Larry. For the fraction of my power. What will you have in five levels?
00:43:14
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So I completed the Elite Four and I told them now the Elite Four is complete, I will not be playing on some Nuzlocke mode anymore. And now going around catching... Sorry, that's the whole game. Well, yeah, there's after game stuff. want to call Mewtwo and I'm not completing the Pokedex. No, I know, but I just find that so funny that it's like you go from hyper serious. Are you sure? Oh yeah, let's have fun with the game now. And you've traumatized your wife and your sister-in-law just like, yeah, no, what is hell when so are Nuzlocke's?
00:43:43
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Essentially, yeah. yeah know I'm trying to convince one of them to buy Leaf Green so I can complete the Pokedex and then we can sort of play together. And what's really neat about the Switch version is all the stuff that was optional, would say DLC, but special event type stuff back in the day is just inbuilt into the Switch version. So if you get the ferry, it gives you the option of Birth Island and something called old Naval Island. And I was like, what are these? And so i traveled to Birth Island and went up this staircase and it's like this puzzle. and I'm like, the hell? And then i figured out, was God, this is for Deoxys. And so I've just caught Deoxys for the first time in my FireRed playthrough. And then went to Naval Island and it has Ho-Ho. And so I've not yet caught him, but I just caught Deoxys. Deoxys was such a bitch to catch because his defense is 25. And so any attempt of damaging him immediately killed him. No matter what I did, it just killed him. And so I was like, all right, so I can't damage him. I just have to make him sleep and spam Pokeballs at him. And so after several attempts at this, i put him to sleep and spammed a bunch of Ultra Balls. And then eventually I was like, okay, I've been here long enough. and I just got some timer balls recently. So just chucked a bunch of those. And so that one of those eventually got him. So you didn't use any quick balls. I don't have those. Well, I'm out of ideas.
00:44:50
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What does a quick pull do again? It's more effective the faster you use them, I think. So it's like if you use them at the beginning of a battle, the more effective. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's kind of like cheese in it. I don't know how well they work against legendaries, because I know the odds aren't as good as real legendaries like Spearow or Rattata. Sigh.
00:45:11
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Which I totally did not catch with a master ball when we were in university together. Well, I'll be honest, because I'm playing it on like a proper game, I've had to change my mindset as well with how I'm dealing with things and like saving the game at certain points and then having to kind of go from there. And and I was terrified. i am terrible for forgetting to save the game. And if a moment comes up where I'm like oh, shit, have to restart this. I was so worried that I was accidentally going to throw the Master Ball at something that didn't mean to. Well, I remember when I was a kid and I got the Master Ball and then I encountered Zapdos was like, shit, Zapdos, Master Ball. And I threw the Master Ball at Zapdos. And then I didn't have it for Mewtwo and it took forever to catch him.
00:45:48
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So I saved the Master Ball. I tried to not use it on Mewtwo and tried to use Ultra Ball, but it became such a pain in the butt that I eventually just like, screw it, just threw the Master Ball. So that's what I've been playing. If you want to play Leaf Green and play with me, let me know. It's really fun. Was this just a whole elevator pitch? Get me my scyther, damn you! Jeez, I felt that through the mic there. Yeah.
00:46:09
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I've actually already an egg with my star Pokemon. When I first started, my wife was busy and it was just her sister who was about. And so I had her pick a number one to three. And then from that, it was Charmander that I took for the star Pokemon. And so I've got an egg now for Charmander. For whoever does get the game, I can give them a Charmander. So eventually they can then give me like a Bulbasaur and Squirtle and that kind stuff. Yeah, honestly, it has been because I made a joke about it when it got announced. I don't know if you saw it on social media where I was holding up my Switch and my physical copy of Leaf Green and i was like, okay, guys, how do I play this game? Yeah, because have I ever told you the story about how I found out about Leaf Green when it first came out? Back like 20 years ago. Yeah, because I genuinely had no idea that it'd come out. I think at that point I'd kind of fallen away from Pokemon. I think the last game at the time I'd played was Pokemon Sapphire. I thought, oh, this is a great game. And then I saw loads of people posting gameplay on YouTube at the time and doing their own raw medits and whatnot. And I was like, all right, this is cool, but I've got no idea what this is. So I went about my day. And it wasn't until I went to, want to say it was a game station. That's how long ago it was. was And yeah, just saw like a copy of Leaf Green and I was like, oh my God. Granted, that was a couple of years after i it had come out, but I was like, oh my God, have to play this. So yeah, ended up getting the copy. And that was also the copy that I played my first Nuzlocke years and years ago. i got absolutely bodied.
00:47:39
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i run Because ironically enough, if you look up our Chatsu Shorts episodes, I've got a whole episode talking about my first Nuzlocke. And basically, I got to the end of the game and I practically lost all my team except for... I think it was a Dragonite, a Kadabra, and I managed to get shiny primate, which I was using the shiny clothes, so I thought, you know what, sure, I'm going to throw him in. And then the primate ended up getting blasted by Gary's blastoise in the final battle, which was quite dramatic. I also lost a primate but that I was very attached to. Yeah, it's such a good, honestly, that's the amazing thing about Nuzlocke. It's like you don't really get attached to these Pokemon this much. And then, you know, when you have to use them for Nuzlocke, it becomes a new favourite. Do you remember the Tadpole Pokemon? if I don't know if you've played Generation 5, have you? Black and white. Black and white, if not, no. No, there was a Tadpole Pokemon called Timepole, I think. And I remember I got that and it evolved into, oh, I can't even remember the name of it. Seismitoad is his last form, but it evolved into second stage and I called it Hoppy. And I was like, oh, this is the best Pokemon ever. I'm going to take you to the end of the game. And then it got bodied by like a random trainer in a cave. And I was so sad I had to stop playing for it.
00:48:59
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a couple of days because I'm like, how am I supposed to go ahead without Hobbie? I was also like that when I lost Houdini. And then I was like, all right, I don't know if this is the official Nazalut rule, but I was like, all right, if I lost a Pokemon in a particular route, can go back to that route to find that Pokemon again. went back to the area where found the Abra and I got another Abra and then just spent ages just leveling up again to try and catch it back up to where I was before. So I've just double checked and the name of that Pokemon is Palpitoad. So if there's any Palpitoad stands out there...
00:49:30
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Ironically enough, I've also got an episode on that. I just love making miserable episodes, apparently. But yeah, Nuzlocke's are so much fun. Actually, out curiosity, and speaking of Pokemon, are you going to be playing Sea Pokemon Coliseum? Because I think that's coming out soon. Or I think it's already out, actually, on the GameCube Virtual... but the GameCube Virtual Console is only available on Switch 2. Is it? Yeah, Wind Waker came out on the GameCube Virtual Console and I was so excited and then I found out the GameCube Virtual Console only available on Switch 2. I genuinely had no idea that was a thing. I know, I was so upset. It's one of the main motivating factors why I wanted Switch 2. You know, Nintendo is genuinely one of these companies and for legal reasons I don't advocate for this, but... It's one of those old companies they go, why are people pirating our games? And then they make it so bloody difficult to actually get these special games when they actually do release them. Because I'm going to be honest, I remember when I was in high school and I saw people emulating games even in university you could get emulators for gamecube games one of my favorite images recently it's like the drawing of the overweight guy with the greasy beard holding the two swords going leave the multi-billion company alone and it's usually used for things like when people try to defend nintendo or things like that or disney or like tesla or something like that Speaking of Disney, actually, did you hear about that AI thing that they finally stopped partnering themselves with? think it's Sora. They had a partnership with the guy who made ChatGPT. Oh, okay. This is how terminally online
00:51:05
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I apologise, but there was this video and image making thing called Sora, but apparently Disney signed, think it was like a million or a billion dollar deal with this company. And the idea was that users were going to be able to take Disney characters and write in their own prompts. So it was like, oh, wouldn't it be funny if Mickey Mouse said, happy birthday to your wee one, or what if Buzz Lightyear wished you happy christmas and was really weird but thankfully recently they've said that they're going to be shutting down it was just bizarre but yeah it's the weird thing that they said we're backing out the deal because they're retiring sora but they're not closing the door on ai and disney entirely and you're like remember when disney used to be magical man was I mean, it's the way that all these film production companies are going to go because they're the ones who look at the costs that can be cut and the time that can be cut down, the lack of human input that's required. They're all seeing it from that perspective, active not from the creative or ethical integrity kind of side of things. And so that's why you always hear them talk about, like well, this is the future. This is where it's going. It's like, well, it doesn't have to. You're the one in charge that makes that decision. If you show integrity, then it becomes the foundation for others to going forward. It's just honestly so baffling because that's the thing. It's like, you know when you're on Twitter and you're scrolling through and you get that one idiot who's like, oh my god, this is gonna kill Hollywood, this is gonna revolutionise cinema and blah blah blah, and it's the world's worst, i don't even know what it is, you know, it's like the world's worst fan fiction on display. It's like, oh look, it's Spider-Man fighting Venom, and Venom has six fingers.
00:52:44
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Indeed. Doesn't look like Venom. I keep seeing people being like, it's getting too good. You can't even tell this is AI. And it's like, yes, you can. I mean, granted, there are some videos that I've had to genuinely double take and go, oh, wow. Again, it's like you can see it's AI, but there's some at a glance you go, oh, I don't know why that person's acting silly. And then you have to rewatch it and go, oh my God, that was AI. And that is the scary thing. But this whole thing about people saying, oh, it's going to take over. It's like, no, it's not. It's like it's only going to take over if people actively choose to consume it. Unfortunately, people do. Not so much in terms of that kind of media right now, because people can kind of see that it's not very well done as it is. But the kind of prominence of AI usage with the general public is to such an extent that it will become just adopted in the norm, unfortunately. You don't want that to be the fact. that You want there to be people in higher up places that are preventing that from happening. But realistically, that's not going to happen. and we will see an entirely AI-created movie probably in the next five years. Oh yeah, 100%. They've put too much money into it to back out of it. Yeah, I kind of hate that, I'm not going to lie. Because there was the meltdown as well, I don't know if you've seen this and hopefully not, but there was a meltdown for someone who made, I think it was a Love Island type show, but they changed the characters with human fruits. or something so it was like oh look it's a woman who's a strawberry and one who's a raspberry and they were getting millions and millions of views and you know there's a whole back and forth about whether that's spot views because it was so quick to rise to prominence if you know what i mean and I think as of this episode a lot of the episodes were getting mass flagged and taken down there's one side of the internet calling it oh it's great that they're taking action and on the other side you've got people going oh it's the future of entertainment And you're like no.
00:54:37
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I saw that someone said that there was like a video that went viral for little bit. It was like one of the watched videos of all time. And it was this baby going through an airport and then ends up flying a plane. It's the most AI slop you've ever seen. And it was viewed hundreds of millions of times. And it's so depressing seeing stuff like that. Because that's the thing as well, though. I don't know if it is actually people that are watching it. I mean, I think a huge chunk of it might be, but you wonder if, on the other hand, it's like a whole bunch of bots that have just flooded to that particular video? Yeah, potentially. Which is frustrating me. I've been seeing so many ads that are AI. The worst culprits are betting companies. betting companies love I mean the most unethical companies around and so they don't see any qualm with cutting corners and saving a quick back production costs and that kind of stuff and so every single betting ad I've seen lately has been so clearly AI and really uncanny and upsetting I'm not really a gambling person myself I have put on a sports bet in the past used to do it semi-regularly years ago not really for a long time I occasionally get a lottery ticket kind of thing but I actively i'm like I am never using your service because you have completely put me off of your company by you doing this. You can tell the exact people they're targeting with the weird AI nature of the ads. Funny enough, I don't know if you saw this when it came out, but there was a really interesting video that, you know, Christopher Eccleston, the guy who used to play Doctor Who, and he's been in loads of other British films, he did a really interesting video where he was talking about his experience with gambling ads, and they were saying how at one point he got asked to come on and basically just read an advert for it and they ended up walking out of it because the way they were writing the script and everything they had a couple of changes here or there and they were trying to get them to do Doctor Who references which was really insidious and the guy has some utter morals honestly he is fantastic because he turned around and he was like well no i'm not going to say anything Doctor Who related because children watch that show it would be very inappropriate for me to say that and they do like a kind of funny skit at the beginning to reenact that which culminates in him just walking out and leaving but then he goes and talks to professionals that have been studying these kind of adverts there was one guy and it was really interesting they were saying how they usually try to get working class actors like danny dyer for example yes even stateside they've got chris rock where they want to show that oh this person you know is just like you and the everyman kind of guy hey Exactly. And I hate that stereotype. I really hate it because there's always something so insidious behind it where it's like, I'm just like you. I'm going to do this thing that's dangerous, but it's okay because, i mean, that person lost all that money, they could definitely earn it back. But some people, unfortunately, do go to dark places with this. It was honestly so fascinating. Again, I'm the exact same as you. I'm not really a betting person. I'll maybe buy a lottery ticket once in a blue moon, but that's the extent that I'll go. And that's the thing, though. It's like that completely changed the way I saw these types of adverts. And you're right. For these adverts to suddenly go, oh, let's try and add AI into the mix, and you're completely right, target specific people who are going to get pulled into this. Honestly, it's just insidious, isn't it? One that I saw very frequently around kind of Christmas time. I can't remember the name of the company. It would be a North American specific bedding company, but it was like a grandma. It was clearly like AI. and You could tell the coloring around her, around her outfit and that kind of thing. And she like opened the oven to take out the Christmas turkey, but instead it'd be like Whoa! It would explode with like cash and amazing opportunities and that kind of stuff. And then her AI children and whatnot would come in and she'd open up, you know, her waiters would open up that little dish of a tray and then the same thing would happen for them. They'd be like, Whoa! It reminded me of like Mr. Sparkle. It was so gross, seedy. One of the big people that they target is older people, particularly like lonely older folks that don't have as much going on. And so they kind of are able to target them with these betting ads. They often don't notice the AI nature of it. They think it's kind a cute advert and they are able to be tricked by it much easier than a younger adult. Again, it is so depressing because even on YouTube as well, and i absolutely hate using YouTube without an ad blocker now because it's just, it's unusable sometimes where you're watching like a five minute video and then it's like, oh, a minute's over, we're going to put two ads, oh, and you know, it goes on and on. And usually they repeat the same ads, which is something they've been doing for ages, but there was a really weird one where there was a guy talking and I kept looking at him and I was like, what is wrong with your... face I was like, there's something not quite right with this guy. And then, of course, it was like, oh, yes, I am an AI. And I was like, oh, my God, they're even in the ads now. And the other one I keep getting, and I'm not going to name the company, but essentially it's like an AI company that builds an app for you or something.
00:59:38
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And I don't get why it keeps targeting me specifically, because Chatsunami does not need an app. I mean, maybe in the future it does, but it'll be made by people, not, you know, a computer. But, well, you know what i mean.
00:59:50
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But yeah, it's just, it's really weird. I don't like it. And as I said, I do think YouTube is particularly heinous for that, that they keep just pushing any advert as long as you can pay for it. It's the same with TikTok though, isn't it? Is it? I don't usually use TikTok. Honestly, I think I'm done with TikTok. The only reason I'm on is obviously because of the podcast and to promote, but every time I've gone on there to see, other than the odd funny video labour of love, it honestly feels like QVC at times. You know that old shopping channel that they used to have where it was like they would sell things and that's all the programme was? Yes. was like, oh, you have to phone in now and you get free toaster and you're like yeah, they've just basically made an app for it. So it's like, yeah, you can buy this and that and you're like... Cool beans. This is the future, guys. But yeah, sorry, that got dark really fast.
01:00:41
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On a happier note, I'm genuinely surprised at how much we've actually been watching over the past couple of weeks. There is a plethora of content. Actually, before we wrap up, did I mention that... and Again, this isn't an ad. it honestly sounds like an ad read, but swear it's not. But did you realise that HBO is finally coming to the UK? ah Yes, I did know that. And actually, that's how you can watch The Pit. Really? Yeah. So once HBO finally comes, when I was looking up how my parents can watch it, and it said that it will be on HBO once it comes to the UK later this year. I don't know exactly what date it's coming out. i think it's not too far away from now. But yeah, so having HBO will be interesting, and especially with the Paramount takeover. I'm curious how they're going to deal with that. Yeah, that whole thing has been an omni shambles. Because was that about Warner Brothers or something? Yeah, Warner Brothers owns HBO and Paramount are going to be taking over Warner Brothers, so they'll be taking over all the Warner Brothers properties including HBO. Remember when it was just Netflix? I feel old for saying that, but remember it was just Netflix and that was it? It was like, yeah, that's your only streaming service and now it's like, oh great, we've got that, we've got Disney+, plus we've got Amazon Prime, They've said that they're going to keep HBO separate from Paramount+, but I can't imagine that they will do that for indefinitely because it doesn't make sense from a corporate standpoint of having owning all that that kind of IP and having in two separate kind of platforms. Well, on the other hand, it's two separate subscriptions. Yeah, but i mean, you also then manage those two types of subscriptions, and i feel like it'd probably be easier for them to kind of bundle it. Because I think up until that point, it's been funny seeing all the Americans, you know, just be like, wait, the UK never had HBO? And it's like, nope.
01:02:24
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Unless you had Sky TV, or think it's Now TV as well had the rights for a lot of shows, like Game of Thrones especially, The Last of Us, and now they're all on HBO. Yeah. All the Harry Potter films as well, because Warner Brothers, but they're of course there, and that's when the new TV show's coming out, and yeah, without getting too into that, did you see the trailer for that, for Harry Potter? Oh no, I avoided it, I don't care. Again, I'm not going to get too into it, given the controversies around it, but it just looks depressing. It's like, it's so blue, and it's so dark and everything, and you're like, are they making Game of Thrones for children? Because it feels like they just toned everything down. So I mean, the decision just doesn't really make sense as well with the guy they gained for Dumbledore, John Lithgow. He's like 80 now. And like, Dumbledore's supposed to be old, but they're talking about this taking almost 12 years of production to have the entire thing out. John Lithgow might well live long time into his 90s or 100-whatever, probably. Quite a gamble. Nick Frost, I've kind of fallen out of interest in. I've liked him in some things, but he's just not done it for me in so many other kind properties watched. So we watched the live-action How to Train Your Dragon recently. Oh, was he in that? He's Gobber, Stoic's best friend. And he doesn't make any attempt to do Scottish accent, which probably for the best, but he just comes across so annoying. He just doesn't play the character well. Every time he's on screen, you're like, oh, I wish he wasn't. And like the film itself, despite what we expected, it was decent. It was an okay adaptation of the film. Still think it needed to be made, but it was okay.
01:03:55
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But he was probably the biggest detractor from that film. I was kind of skeptical about him being cast as Hagrid in Harry Potter, and if I do end up watching any of it, then I guess I'll see if he's any good at it, but I don't imagine so. I feel so terrible for these kids, because they're going to get the kind of brunt of this. Yeah. They don't deserve that. There are new actors coming through. this is a great opportunity for them. The older actors, I have much more disappointment in because they know what they've signed themselves up for here for something that is going to have a lot of controversy surrounding it. And they're on the wrong
Lord of the Rings Discussions: From Criticism to Speculation
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side of that. And I'm disappointed with so many of these actors, but know that the ones who are going to get the most kind of criticism will be the children.
01:04:36
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child actors and so i'm hoping that's not the case and if it's a good adaptation that's nice but because as you say just one last thing i want to touch on there are just what you were saying about it being a long production cycle for it because i think this is just really a symptom of modern tv shows being made nowadays that they take absolutely ages to come out and then by the time the finale of said show comes out people really just don't care do they stranger things for example i think only got to like season three what to say of that and i just didn't care because it just took so long to come out and then i was like oh right yeah running up that hill's number one because of this one scene oh great and again it's going to be the same for this show that they're just going to be like yeah let's just keep turning it out i don't even know if they're still making thinking of another fantasy show i don't even know if they're still making rings of power are they Did that not conclude? I assumed that the story had concluded from that. Yeah, that's what i thought as well. didn't watch anything past episode two of season one of that show because I didn't care. Two, two and a half for me. Much like you and your wife probably, my partner and I are massive Lord of the Rings fans. We actually enjoyed The Hobbit as well for what it was and going into it we were just like, nah, this isn't for us.
01:05:52
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but We tried two episodes and then it was like, well, we're actually falling asleep and not because we we're tired that day. It was like genuinely, oh my god, this is so boring. The thing I'm hearing coming out is for that Hunt for Gollum movie that they're going to be working on. Yeah, did you hear the thing about Stephen Colbert as well? He's going to be writing a film. Or I think it's him and his son. I just heard there was his son. i don't know if he was, is he also writing on I thought it was just his son was. No, I think he's got input as well, because what I didn't know was he is a massive Lord of the Rings fan. Oh, yeah, he is. He's hugely into it. I don't want to sound like a gatekeeper, but I genuinely thought when they said I'm a massive Lord of the Rings son I was like, yeah, sure, me too. ah But it was like when they was coming away with the deep lore stuff, that even I didn't know. I was like, wow, okay, it's not just him saying, oh yeah, I'm a massive fan. It was genuinely from a place I love. The weird thing about that script, I don't know if you've heard anything about it, but it's like, I think they want to explore, you know, the period from when Sam, Frodo, and the rest of them leave the Shire to, I want to say, it's when they get to Rivendell. So it's like, they want to explore, in fact, it might be even before that. Are you talking about The Hunt for Garland? No, for this film, The other one, okay. I've not heard anything about that one. just know that Hunt for Gollum takes place in the kind of time period, literally just before Law of the Rings, the Frodo part, where Aragorn and Gandalf are trying to find Gollum before Sauron's spies do. Yeah, because i genuinely don't know if these are going to be the same film or I heard about The Hunt for Gollum and as you said, it's going to be set just before Lord of the Rings. But then all of a sudden this other film's been announced and I don't know if it's going to be a series, but it's like, oh yeah, you remember that scene we cut out of Tom Bombadil? Yeah, he's getting a full movie, guys. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah, let's go.
01:07:44
Speaker
Tom Bombadil. want a Tom Bombadil biopic. To be honest, I genuinely wouldn't mind see if they did, well, maybe I say it now, but if they did like a sequel trilogy thing, fair enough, I could understand. I saw someone talking about that, how like we do not need that. And I agree, we don't need a sequel to Law of the Rings. The whole thing Law the Rings is how neatly tied up it is. If Sam's writing his own next story, then maybe. Even that in the end of the Rings, to honest, was bit an odd one because is Sam going write about his peaceful life with his family now? Because what adventure is he going to be going on other than that? Surely he wants to make sure his family is looked at. The whole thing was like, Frodo didn't have a family, Bilbo didn't have a family. Well, they had each other, man, come on.
01:08:23
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but They didn't at that time, Bilbo didn't have Frodo, and Frodo had just lost Bilbo, because Bilbo peaced out. Well, no, he went in the same boat as Bilbo, sure. No, no, I mean, the events of Lotharings. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end of Lotharings, neither of them had commitments. I'm just laughing at the thought.
01:08:40
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And we'll get on, you know, the boat in the end to be like, see you later, Frodo. This is what you get for stealing the What was Frodo's intention with you write the rest? I love that.
01:08:52
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It's like, you write the rest, Sam. But there's no pages in this, Mr. Frodo. You've not written anything. It's like, yes, I'm a procrastinator. Sue me. Bye! You got something about it. I can't hear you. The editor already gave me my friends. Bye! Do you know what I'm scared of, though? Seeing as Amazon, I'm sure, have the rights to the Lord of the Rings films. What I'm worried about is if they decide to do, like, a sitcom or something with Sam and his family. Sam was just an ordinary habit. Uh oh. Mary and Pippin walk in the side and the audience go like, whooooo! To be fair, I would as well be like, whoo! Finally, some good characters in here. Oh yeah, my nightmares aside, hopefully it is a good film. The new ones, I mean, hopefully they're good, but again, that is far too early because they've literally only just announced them, haven't they? Yeah, I mean, Pud for Gollum's been in talks in the works for quite some time. I think Andy Serkis is helming that one. Yeah, he's direct on that, isn't he? Yeah, from what i understand. I don't know how much you can get of Gollum now. You know, they made that terrible game of him. Leave the poor guy alone. That was such a shame, because that game had so much promise to it. I didn't play it, and I just heard terrible things about it, and it was like one of the worst games of the year. It seemed like it was going be such an interesting stealth game. definitely bombed right off the bat because i remember my friend dan from gaming views was like satsu i've got a question should i review this for my show and i was like yeah i haven't played it either but i have seen the extensive videos just tearing it apart and it's not one of these things where it's like oh you know gaming subjective and you can get some joy out of it it's like no this is greedy ass Terrible. Don't play it. And you're completely right. We haven't really had a good Lord of the Rings game in a while. I think the last good Lord of the Rings game was those, is it Shadow of Mordor? I'm going to say. The ones with the Nemesis system that we're not allowed to use anymore because Warner Brothers copyrighted it and now other games can't use that same system. Thanks, Warner Brothers. Very cool. Very cool. You know what game I missed, though? You see the Return of the King one. We should probably do an episode on that sometime. Yeah, that would good fun. I played that on the GameCube and also my friend's original Xbox. That was good times. We should also look at doing an episode for, because the new Spider-Man film comes out in, i think, July?
Marvel Month and Nintendo Disappointments
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Mid-July, I want to say. Yeah, I think maybe 31st, to be honest. But maybe we should look at doing a Marvel month in anticipation of that.
01:11:20
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That is actually a fair shout. Yeah, either in like May or June or in July itself. Yeah, I'm gonna add that to the list. I mean, this is a massive year for, say, anniversaries. Sonic, for example, that's 35. Mario was fortyel is Zelda's 40. Yeah, no one cared about that one. No, I'm joking.
01:11:39
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but or get you i know where you live don't blame me blame nintendo that actually really surprised me when nintendo were like oh look we've got the mario film oh we've got pokemon leaf green and fire red hi zelda why you here you get a vinyl is that all they got they've announced that they're gonna do a vinyl of the music from the games that was the 40th stuff so far there may well be a direct that happens later in the year where they announce something cool that's gonna come out but i think in all likelihood we're not gonna get much As of this episode, they haven't announced anything. Hopefully they do, or I don't know, even if it's like a, i don't know, a commemorative dish towel or something. So I'll give you a buzz. If we ever do a Zelda month, obviously you are number one on that list.
Chatsunami Podcast Anniversary Reflection
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I better be. I genuinely think you would beat me up in real life if I did that. If it came out Friday and I saw an episode that came out and it was Zelda and was not on, I might book a flight and come punch you in the face. Or punch me in the back of the head. It's like Lenny. Because it's a bit like if I said, hey, Andrew, do you want to do a Godzilla month? And then, you know, he had the furious stomping of Martin McAllister kicking down my door as it says that. Imagine Martin and I did a Sonic episode but you weren't aware of. Well, there's still time. I mean, you did the Princess Mononoke episode. Although then again, I'm not a big Princess Mononoke fan. It's a good film. That's all i say. But yeah, no, go for it. I dare you. Try me. I'll cut you from the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, For legal reasons from the show, yeah. I'm getting really weird looks from a red panda lawyer over in the corner. But no, yeah, we should definitely look into that, though, for a Marvel month and whatnot. And yeah, honestly, I was saying this to Martin as well, I cannot believe that we are over halfway through this season. Speaking anniversaries, it'll be the five-year anniversary of Chatsunami that we'll be celebrating this year. Six-year anniversary. God damn it.
01:13:29
Speaker
Did you not hear my episode in China? Yeah. I forgot that that was the five-year anniversary. In all seriousness, it's absolutely wild that it is going to be six years because I feel as if we've just blinked and this whole decade has just gone by. And, you know, usually I've said that in the past, like, haha, isn't it funny? You know, well, you blink and it's gone. But genuinely, I do not know where this decade's gone. I feel as if it's just absolutely raced by. I feel as if by the time we get to Zelda month, your son will probably be on just... able to talk able to play all the zelda games before me and it's like yeah 2050 zelda month for legal reasons i am of course joking we will definitely try and get a zelda month before but it's gonna be fun to see what we actually get up to in that time but before you or martin beat me up andrew thank you so much once again for yeah coming into the cafe having a png beverage of choice and And yeah, no jokes aside, thank you for coming on and chatting away. No, thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate the invite to come on and chance to sort of chat on all kind of plethora of topics. It's nice having Chatsu Cafe where we can divert topics at will and not furiate the masses, you know. So for all the, what was it, the Invincible fans, the Pit Big crossover in this. Yeah. We talked about AI gambling. In all seriousness, I do love these types of episodes because Chatsy Cafe is literally just a format for us just to be able to chat. Well, I was going to say jokingly chat a bunch of rubbish, but I mean me more so chatting a bunch of rubbish, just being like, yeah, let's chat about XYZ, what's been going on. And yeah, it's honestly a blast every time to do. So if you want to listen to more episodes with both myself and Andrew. Then, of course, you can listen to us on our website, chatsanami.com, as well as all good podcast apps. I also want to thank our amazing Pandalorian patrons, Robotic Battletoaster, Ghosty, and Cryptic 1991. Thank you so much for supporting the show. But if you would also like to listen to early access episodes, bonus content, bloopers, commentary tracks, as well as Andrew and I's true feelings about AI, for legal reasons that last one's a joke, then course you can check us out at our Patreon page, patreon.com forward slash chat tsunami. This podcast is a proud member of the Podpack Collective. For more information, check us out our Twitter slash X page at Podpack Collective. Until next time, thank you all so much for joining us once again in the Chatsoo Cafe. Stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.