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Episode 277 - Conspiranews for July 2020
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Josh and M update you on COVID-19 news, Trump news, UFO disclosure news, and local politics.
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Transcript
A Concerned Start
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Lord Morrissey Morrissey and I had sat down for dinner when his lordship was stricken with surprise. We're not doing a Lord Morrissey Morrissey and Puddles intro this week. I had to assume his lordship had succumbed to the vapour so I shook him fiercely. Snap out of it Morrissey. Think of the scandal. Morrissey had once taken to solving a case on a moving tram and delayed the passengers who wanted to get off at the Victoria Baths. A constabulary had not been impressed and Morrissey had reluctantly required the services of his sister, Lady Meredith Meredith, consort to the royal family.
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Josh, this is a news episode. We're meant to be starting these things off with a recap of topics from previous years. Morrissey was not coming down from his attack, so I threw a glass of water at his face. I'm so sorry, Puddles. I seem to have taken a rather funny turn. Morrissey looked unusually chagrined, and so he bade the Matedy good night and returned to our rooms. The mystery would need to wait.
Introductions & Philosophy of Conspiracy
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The podcaster's guide to the conspiracy, brought to you today by Josh Edison and Dr. M. Denton.
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Hello and welcome to the Podcaster's Guide to the Conspiracy. I am Josh Addison in Auckland, New Zealand. They are Dr. M. Dentethin Hamilton, Kiri Kiri Rua, New Zealand. And it's Thursday, it's winter, it's the end of the month, which means it's a news episode. It is indeed. It is an episode filled with news. But first, a bit of the old preamble. Josh, I believe there's been a bit of a scandal on Wikipedia.
00:01:52
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Well, yes, now, I mean, you've been cited in numerous sort of academic journals and books and so on, but I'm a respectable internet encyclopedia on philosophy.
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Precisely. But have you shown up in Wikipedia? That's where all the cool kids are. That's where all the flame wars and Hentai, I assume, is. Well, the answer, Josh, is yes. There is now a Philosophy of Conspiracy Theories page on Wikipedia.
00:02:24
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which seems to exist for the sheer fact that every time people try to put the philosophy of conspiracy theories into the main conspiracy theories page, it gets removed. Believe me, I've been involved in trying to get that included into that discussion. So someone has taken it upon themselves to create a page about the philosophy of conspiracy theories, which includes a discussion of philosophers talking about conspiracy theories, which includes my dear self.
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Mmm, it does. So how old is it? And how did you come across it? Well, it's from November 2019 and I came across it because I did a name search myself on Wikipedia.
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Ah, we've all been there. Yes, I had a look through and it seems to cover the basics. David Coady seemed to come up quite a bit in that it seemed like it referenced his, was he the editor of a collection? He was, although he had written an article on conspiracy theories before the Ashgate Press collection came out. We'll be getting on to Coady very, very soon. Yes, you look at the talk
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page for the Wikipedia entry?
Maxwell's Arrest and Trump
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Briefly, I can never really make head nor tail of the talk pages. There's a lot of technical gobbledygook and then comments, some of which are meaningless and some of which go on at length. So what I think here...
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What I found fascinating about the talk page was people saying, well, there's no such thing as the philosophy of conspiracy theories. And then people pointing out that there are numerous articles that refer to the philosophy of conspiracy theories and a book by one Dr. M. X. Dentist called the philosophy of conspiracy theories. So it did seem like the editors at Wikipedia really didn't have any idea of what philosophy of actually means.
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Oh well. So there we go. That's your latest claim to fame. And later, much later, so late that it won't even be in this episode, but will be in the patron bonus episode, we'll look at more of the way in which you have scattered yourself across the internet and various other medias. But that'll have to wait.
00:04:44
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Because we have a lot of news to get through. Oh, July was an eventful month and the only way to recap that is with a sting and then a bit of the old news.
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Start me off, Josh, with some pedophillion years. Well, yes, I think this is I guess this is the biggest conspiracy related news of the month, the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell. So I'm sure you all heard about this name. We did not know how to pronounce until she was arrested. Like, because I knew there was.
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I've seen it, I've seen the masculine equivalent pronounced Gilane, so I assumed this was a Gilane, and maybe it is if you're in France or Canada or somewhere, but everyone just, the only time I've heard people say her name out loud, it's just simply Gilane, as though she were elaying with a guh on the front. But anyway, so she's arrested.
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and has not died suspiciously in custody yet. As far as we're aware at the time of recording, no suspicious deaths have occurred to Jelaine Maxwell, but of course time of recording may not be time of listening, and indeed as we're recording events still continue to happen in the real world, even though I have asked numerous times
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that no conspiracy news occurred during the recording of these podcasts, no one in the Illuminati or New World Order will listen to me. Because they don't exist. Although I would say that wouldn't die.
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So, I mean, despite it being sort of big news in and of itself, there hasn't actually been much news. There's been a bit of talk, people coming forward to say how they saw firsthand the fact that she and Epstein had taken videotape of these various celebrities and international figures having sex with
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people of dubious legality for blackmail material, which is kind of what we'd always assumed. I mean, that always seemed to be the thing about Epstein. He had the dirt on everyone, so that's how he could get away with stuff for so long. But nothing really of substance. And the only other development, of course, was Trump's words on the matter.
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Yes, so Trump was asked about the arrest of Maxwell at a press conference, and we might as well play the clip right here. Just Lane Maxwell is in prison, and so a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew, and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?
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I don't know. I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well, frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is. I don't know the situation with Prince Andrew. I just don't know. I'm not aware of it. Which does seem to indicate that Trump has no idea what's going on or really doesn't care about child trafficking.
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Yeah, I mean, my thought on hearing it was that it sounded like just the usual sort of bluster that Donald Trump does. Somebody asks him a question that he doesn't have an immediate answer for, and he just rambles off some generic
Vaccine Race & Global Espionage
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nonsense. So in this case, all they asked me about a person, well, I guess I wish them well. But yes, wishing a
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an arrested person with strong connections to an actual elite pedophile network, certainly raised a few eyebrows, but then of course was forgotten instantly after whatever the next weird thing he did was. Well then that's going to be demon sperm we'll be talking about very shortly.
00:08:45
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In fact, very, very shortly because, yeah, let's move on then to the COVID-19 bizzou. So, obviously... Now, Josh, for people who've been living under a rock, what is COVID-19? COVID-19, it's a disease.
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Really? Why still have a virus? Now a disease is some sort of an illness within the human body caused in this case by a virus which is a kind of a microscopic organism which you can't see. So slow down. So you're telling me that we're not talking about the humours anymore?
00:09:18
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No, no, I'm afraid to tell you that no miasma is involved at all in the transmission of this disease. But Josh, Josh, I've seen a lot of people wearing masks and the whole thing about masks is it stops the bad smells from getting to you and making you ill. So I'm a little bit confused by the claim that we've ditched miasma theory if everyone's wearing masks to stop them from smelling bad things to make them fall ill.
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Well, the idea is that this disease is carried on water droplets that could be expelled from a person such as when they sneeze or cough or even really breathe out. So if you like, you can imagine the virus as the dude from the end of Dr. Strange Love riding on the bomb waving a cowboy hat. That essentially is literally what a virus is. And it arrives those nuclear- Well, replace the hat with a crown.
00:10:13
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It what? Replace the hat with a crown. Well, obviously, yes, yes, coronavirus, that's what it's all about. Now, what I just said was all a lie and completely ridiculous, but not actually much more ridiculous than some of the stuff. Actually, let's start with the true stuff, or at least the allegedly true stuff, which is about hacking.
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before we get into the the more out there business supposedly both Russia and China have been accused of trying to to hack vaccine developers is that right yes although i should point out it's probably also the case that western nations are doing exactly the same thing to their eastern counterparts but there is basically a cold war going on at this particular point in time a phrase i seem to use an awful lot which
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is basically every nation state going we are afraid another nation state is going to get to a vaccine or a cure before us at which point they'll have a PR victory of we got to it first
Bizarre Claims and COVID-19 Plate
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So we need to hack into their systems, see what their research is looking like, so we can then steal that research and hopefully produce our cure first. Now, there is a worry that some nation states might then want to monopolize that cure. And actually the worry there is mostly the US rather than other nation states.
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because the US is already doing things to monopolise things like drugs for the treatment of COVID-19 and doing other things like seizing shipments of masks overseas and repatriating them to the US. But there is basically a cold war going on for the cure for COVID-19 and at the moment Russia and China are being figured as the culprits doing the bad work
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My suspicion is actually everybody is doing it, because everyone wants a step up on the so-called opposition. Even though the thing about a pandemic, we're all in this together, although some of us seem to be dealing with it a lot more badly than others.
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Yes, it is difficult to know whose side you should take in that particular instance. Is it the hackers performing illegal activities against other states, or is it the global pharmaceutical companies looking to profit and monopolize on the back of this thing? But anyway, so yeah, I think you're right. I think it's probably going on. It's probably going on everywhere.
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there's not really much more to say so no i think we've put it off for long enough let's let's get into demon sperm hit me with the demon sperm dr denteth well this is making me think of that mask debate segment from last week tonight which i saw on facebook the other day i mean love discussion about mass debates which when you think about it sounds a little bit like mass debate well not with our accent but yes
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Well, yes, that's also true. I mean, luckily our masks sound completely different. So Trump likes people who praise hydro, I can't even say it today, hydrooxychloroquine. So a doctor, Stella Emmanuel, who's a registered doctor in Texas, who happens to run her clinic beside her church, Fireplower Ministries,
00:13:31
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Fire plower, fire power. Fire power, generally. Fire plower sounds more interesting, but unfortunately isn't actually part of the story. Not a word, no. So she's been extolling the benefits of using hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of patients with COVID-19, which led to Trump saying that she's a spectacular doctor and was worried that one of her posts had been removed from the internet.
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Now it turns out the reason why some of this information may have been removed from the internet is that Stella Emmanuel also claims that alien DNA is used in medical treatment and that many gynecological problems are caused by people dreaming about having sex with demons.
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dreaming about. So dreaming about having sex with demons or actually having sex with demons or having sex with the sort of dream demons who like invade your dreams and have the dream sex. It's all part of the notion that if you start having sex dreams you've been infected by the devil and that's the reason why you gain cysts.
00:14:40
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Now she's also claimed that there's a cure to COVID-19 that they don't want you to know about and thus you don't need to wear a mask because a cure is just around the corner, although maybe it's only been given to the elites. She also claims, and this is quite interesting, that scientists are allegedly creating a vaccine to prevent people from being religious.
00:15:08
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That's certainly a claim that a person said. Didn't they find, isn't there a spot of the brain where if they stimulate it with electrodes, it gives a feeling of religious euphoria or something? Didn't they find a... It's kind of contentious, but yes, there has been some experimental work in neurology, which indicates that you can excite certain sections of the blame. I just can't say worse tonight properly.
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You can excite part of the brain and get a sense of euphoria, which is sometimes coded as being religious experience, although it turns out actually what gets coded as religious experience is not constant across cultures or even within religious communities. So the data is actually kind of useless. Well, maybe though they, I don't know, you could give a vaccine that somehow kills that particular bit of the brain.
00:16:04
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I'm making things up on the spot, but I don't think I'm doing much worse in terms of reasoned argument than Dr. Stella Emmanuel. Now when Trump was called on this endorsement, and people pointed out her other claims, he then pavericated going, well maybe it's not the same person I'm talking about, but he did think it was impressive that she was extolling the benefits of hydroxychloroquine.
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which does seem to indicate, as people have thought for a long time, that as long as you agree with Trump, Trump thinks very highly of you, and just doesn't want to know about what other beliefs you might have at the same time. Yes.
Roger Stone's Commutation Controversy
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Now finally, in Covid news...
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Since at least mid-March, and possibly since as far back as February, a BMW with the number plate COVID-19 has been sitting at the Adelaide Airport staff car park. People only notice this sometime in April, apparently it had a cover over the car, which then got blown off.
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and people thought it was a little bit odd that this car had the personalised plate COVID-19 so early in the piece. I mean obviously it's COVID-19 because it did show up at the end of 2019 so it was known about, but it wasn't really a thing so much.
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that early in this year. So people were sort of wondering, you know, what, what did this person know? Why, why did they get this in the first place? And then there was, of course, the usual hunt to see who was it was it registered with, and so on. And apparently,
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There is a car registered in the state of South Australia with a COVID-19, but not one in Adelaide and not one, not a car registered in Adelaide and not any of the other states. And so it's all, I mean, it's a car with a number plate, so there's not actually a lot going on there, but it's just one of those ones where people have just looked at and gone. Hmm.
00:18:06
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Yeah, it is a wee bit bizarre. As I suggested in a Patreon episode, I think this car belongs to one of the AIs. I think the AI is working with commonly found hashtags on the internet and naming cars after them. The question is why are AIs registering cars and B, what are they doing with them?
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driving them, I assume. But they're not, because it's been sitting in a car park since March. Well, this particular one has, but who knows. When it's activated and the machines take over the world and presumably install Elon Musk as some sort of puppet dictator. So is this going to be a kind of Knight Rider thing with Anthony Daniels or Val Kilmer as the voice of COVID-19? We can but hope.
00:18:51
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Ooh, no, I'm actually suddenly very excited by the idea of a Val Kilmer voiced Knight Rider sequel, which the car is called COVID-19. I don't know where the plot goes. I think it's a really interesting start.
00:19:06
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Yep, my well, you start working on the screenplay and we'll see how things develop. I wonder if we can get Michael Hasselhoff in for a cameo. In fact, actually a better question is, can we stop Michael Hasselhoff from demanding to be a cameo in the rebooted show? Michael Hasselhoff or David Hasselhoff? Both! Right.
00:19:28
Speaker
Does he have a brother? Doesn't have him. Now, OK, that's enough COVID for now. So obviously, if we're done talking about COVID, now we have to talk about Trump. And we'll play the Trump sting, because by God, I think that sting might as well use it. And I want you all to know that we are fighting the fake news. Quality sting, quality sting. So I guess the only only decent Trumpy related stuff of the last month is Roger Stone.
00:19:58
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who was found guilty a little while ago. So I assume he's in prison now. That's how it works, right? Well, almost. He was about to go to prison, but Donald Trump commuted, not pardoned him, at the very last minute, basically within days of when he was meant to show up in his orange overalls.
00:20:21
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So commuted means he was still found guilty but he just doesn't have to serve his sentence. Yes, now in part this is because Stone is continuing to protest his innocence and is using his appeal rights to basically re-litigate the case, or those people have pointed out
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he admitted to lying to federal authorities. So it seems quite clear cut, he's committed a crime. It seems that what they're going to do is go the investigation, the investigation which caused him to perjure himself was illegitimate. So he did perjure himself by lying to federal authorities, but they shouldn't have been investigating him in the first place. And that seems to be his get out of going to jail free card.
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So Trump has commuted the sentence in order that he can continue to chase his innocence. And apparently, although I don't believe this, Roger Stone signed his commutation order on Alex Jones' show. So, what was live on Alex Jones' show? It said, I'm now signing this order.
00:21:31
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but you reckon was just stunned? Yes, so Roger Stone appears on Alex Jones' show three days after the commutation has gone through, or at least he's been given the commutation. Stone claims to sign the docu-, and he signs a piece of paper
00:21:49
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live on Alex Jones' show via a video feed. But you don't actually see what's on the piece of paper. So I think it was just a piece of paper he had to hand. And there'll also be a great stunt for Alex's show. I'll sign my commutation.
QAnon and Social Media Crackdown
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I suspect, because he's probably afraid that at any moment a judge might go, actually, that commutation doesn't work. He would have signed that document the very second he got it into his grubby little hands.
00:22:17
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Yes, and he's, I believe at the time, said he'd really rather be pardoned because that's, never quite sure how to pronounce it, chutzpah, is that how it goes? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, that's what Roger Stone appears to be basically composed of. That and a very large tattoo of Richard Nixon. Richard bloody Nixon.
00:22:43
Speaker
Yes, so was it Barr who said he tried to appeal to his age as a reason for why he shouldn't go to prison? Yes, so Barr said that as someone in his 70s, he bet risk in prison. I believe Roger Stone is 68. Now, missing, that's fairly close to 70, but he would not be in 70 by the time he'd served some of the citizens.
00:23:05
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Although, as people pointed out, the Golden State Killer, if you followed the I'll Be Alone in the Dark book slash TV series written by Michelle McNamara, late wife of comedian Pat Noswalt, they they caught the guy, he's 74 anyway. And I don't think anyone's saying that a 74 year old shouldn't be going to prison for all the all the rapes and murders and what have you. No, I do think that lying to the FBI is of a
00:23:35
Speaker
Not quite the same. But at the same time, yes. Going this person's too old to go to prison, we actually send old people to prison for much more minor crimes. We don't need to compare them to serial killers. We can compare them to people who defaulted on a loan through no fault of their own. Well, yes, I'm sure there are plenty of examples of those. That was just the one that jumped out.
00:23:59
Speaker
Okay, from Trump to QAnon, because there's always some QAnon stuff, but there's actually a decent development, of course, which is that Twitter has started stamping down on QAnon. Yes, so finally, after a very long time of people saying, you do realise that QAnon basically exists as a phenomena on forums, but also largely Twitter. Could we do something about it?
00:24:24
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Twitter has stepped in and banned about 7,000 accounts and limited the activity of another 150,000 accounts associated with QAnon activity. Now those numbers might seem pretty big except that as far as we're aware the monthly active user base for Twitter
00:24:44
Speaker
is somewhere upwards of 300 million accounts. So actually banning 7,000 accounts and limiting the activity of 150,000 accounts actually isn't big at all. But yes, Twitter has finally stepped in and going, no, we're going to make it more difficult for QAnon to do its work online. Although
00:25:08
Speaker
Thus far they haven't been as successful as maybe people would like to have thought they would be, given that QAnon is just finding ways to come up with new hashtags to spread their theories online.
00:25:22
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And what theories they have. It's actually been quite a good month for QAnon wakeyness. We've had the return of the classics. Pizzagate apparently has been popping up on TikTok. Oh, everybody loves pizza. TikTok, where all those youths hang out, although I'm assuming that given that people our age seem to be on it these days, it must be yesterday's news. And there's probably something new that neither of us have actually heard about, which is where the kids really are.
00:25:51
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Um, but yes, Pizzagate, Justin Bieber, supposedly, I think his currently now he was, he was supposedly a victim of this, this, this child sex, slavey trafficking business, wasn't he? And somebody asked him to touch his hat on a live stream if he had been trafficked or something. And then at some point, he touched his hat.
00:26:13
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yes so basically someone on a live stream and we're talking an instagram live stream where there are thousands of comments appearing on a stream at any particular point in time someone said Justin if you've been if you've been abducted as a child
00:26:31
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touch your hat and then a few seconds later he touches his brow and his hat presumably by accident at the same time and this was taken to be proof positive that he was responding to this particular question as opposed to simply touching himself on a stream
00:26:48
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because you can't help but touch your face, as we've discovered with COVID-19. Because we've been told, stop touching your face, which made people aware just how often every minute we touch our faces. We are touching our faces all the time. I'm pretty much constantly touching my face, I have to say. If I was touching your face right now, I'd have the microphone in front of me.
00:27:14
Speaker
But there's been more. We looked at last week, possibly the week before QAnon started going nuts over a photo that Tom Hanks posted to his Twitter and Instagram back in 2016.
00:27:30
Speaker
um and frankly we don't have time to go into the exact details of why this is a thing but essentially he picks he tom hanks likes to post photos of lost like gloves and socks and things that he sees on when he's when he's out walking 2016 he posted a picture of an old glove lying on the ground the concrete that was lying on had been spray painted with SRC USA which people took to be a coded reference to child pornography there's a
00:27:59
Speaker
A chain of thought, I guess, is what you could call it that would lead someone to think that that's the numbers, the letters SRC stand for child pornography, but it's too convoluted to get into without hijacking this entire episode. But yes, that's a thing people think. And then there was the whole Wayfair thing. Selling selling children in industrial cabinets, I understand.
00:28:26
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Yes, so apparently people were quite fascinated by the fact that Wayfair, an online retailer, was selling very expensive, seeming caparatory with rather unusual names, which appeared to be the names of young children, and went, well, why are these cabinets so expensive unless, and this is a very logical deduction they made,
00:28:50
Speaker
They must only be expensive because they're named after children, because when you buy one of these cabinets, you get a child free with it. It's the kind of thinking which I kind of expect from certain parts of the internet. So yes, they were making the claim that these cabinets were a child trafficking front.
00:29:11
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as opposed to looking at the cost of industrial cabinetry, which turned out to be rather expensive, and then comparing the naming of products at Wayfair with, say, product names in IKEA, where you suddenly go, actually, these online retailers who are desperate to put names to SKUs,
00:29:32
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end up giving them any old name they can get which often is going to a list of people's names and going oh we'll just call this style of cabinet a Sandra this kind of desk a Derek etc etc
00:29:49
Speaker
Yes, so Wayfair ended up being prompted to actually release a statement saying, you know, actually, you'll be surprised to learn we're not trafficking stolen children, but ended up
00:30:04
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changing their online catalog listings to make it clearer, A, why these things are as expensive as they are, and B, I think possibly changing the photographs, because I think some of the things that people were raising their eyebrows at was that you had listings for cabinets that appeared identical with quite different prices, which basically seemed to be because they just used the same stock photograph of a cabinet and different listings and so on.
00:30:34
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not actually that dubious, as it turned out. No, not that dubious at all. And I have to say, this is a thing that's come up several times in the past, and I can't remember if I've last talked about it in a news episode or just in a Patreon episode, but Patton Oswalt, again,
00:30:53
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the comedian. He's he's done a bunch of silly funny things on Twitter, what with being a professional comedian. And but I've seen I saw a while ago and then saw again just the other day that the QAnon folks basically quoting his own jokes back at him and taking them seriously, as if to suggest that he's part of your global pedophile network. So I mean, he's had stupid jokes like one time he'd been he'd been making a comment about gross
00:31:23
Speaker
gross things on people's feet and people said you shouldn't say people's feet are gross and so did this thing saying ah you're right I see now I've been such a pedophobe I'm counting my ways and I'm gonna be a proud pedophile and then people like
00:31:40
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quote that tweet back to him and say, look, as if to say, haha, we've outed you, you've outed yourself as an international pedophile, you professional comedian who makes jokes on Twitter. Scandalous behaviour. Scandalous. Anyway,
UFOs and Government Transparency
00:32:00
Speaker
that's enough QAnon, but a bit of good old UFO news. What's happening in the world of UFOs? Well, apparently we're going to get full disclosure of alien vessels on this planet.
00:32:10
Speaker
Not the first time I've heard that, though. Ah, but this time, actually, it seems to be a much more interesting story. So the Pentagon has a UFO unit, or as we should say, a UAP unit, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force. And they are now going to be updating the US Senate's Intelligence Committee on its UAP or UFO research every six months.
00:32:37
Speaker
Now this is interesting because certain people like Eric Davis, a former Pentagon consultant and subcontractor who has worked with the UAP task force, claims that during his time on the project they found objects which they couldn't make themselves and thus he thinks they are evident of
00:33:01
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alien vessels or parts of vessels in storage in government facilities somewhere in the US. So there's now this hope that full disclosure is going to be forthcoming, something which people had hoped was going to be the case under President Donald Trump.
00:33:20
Speaker
And I mean, it should be said, and we've seen this before, that yes, the Pentagon has an unidentified aerial phenomena task force, and that's been around a while, and there are those infamous videos from
00:33:34
Speaker
were they taken 10 or 12 years ago and surfaced four or five years ago, which they've officially said, yes, you know that these are actual official videos, but that's not the same as saying avians exist. It's just, yes, there is official video of unidentified aerial phenomena, which, I mean, it's
00:33:54
Speaker
It's a bit redundant to say these days I've identified flying object as just a flying object that you can't identify. But yes, it doesn't. The existence of this task force doesn't mean the Pentagon says aliens exist. But maybe they will. Who knows? Let's find out. Every six months could be anything.
00:34:13
Speaker
Now Acting Intelligence Committee Chairperson Marco Rubio has said that his priority when these reports are being given to the Senate committee is to uncover who is behind unidentified aerial phenomena seen over American military bases. Actually his comment on this is kind of interesting because he said and I quote
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Frankly, that if it's something from outside this planet, that actually might be better than the fact that we've seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or Russians or some other adversary.
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I guess I can see his point, I suppose. If there are unidentified craft buzzing over American airbases, you certainly wouldn't want it to be proof that your enemies, if that's the right word, and current geopolitical climate,
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have the technology to send their planes all the way over to your country and fly over your airbases without you being able to do anything about it. Maybe aliens are a more comforting prospect. Maybe they could be nice aliens. Maybe they could be nice Russians. I don't know.
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Yes, I would be a little bit concerned about aliens flying vessels over your military bases. That doesn't seem like a gentle first contact situation.
NZ Political Scandals & International Intrigues
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That seems like scouting the planet in preparation for invasion.
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Well, it does a little bit, I suppose. Okay, we've looked at COVID, we've looked at Trump, we've looked at QAnon, we've looked at UFOs. I think let's finish things off by seeing what's been happening a little bit more locally. So it's election time. When's the election? I can't even remember, November? No, September. It's in about 50 days.
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Yeah, September. Yeah, so national election here in New Zealand, which means politics are in full swing. And there's been there's been no amount of hijinkery. Obviously, the national parties had all manner of crap.
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flying around people, people resigning like flies and scandals and it's been a little bit crazy. Not massively conspiratorial other than pretty much all politics is conspiratorial in some way.
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the scandal of Hamish Walker, the MP who has resigned for leaking patient data with respect to COVID-19. And there's a little bit of conspiracy talk that goes on behind that as to when exactly the National Party hierarchy knew exactly what he had done.
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and how long they sat upon it hoping the cover story of a mental health crisis will allow them to make that just disappear. There's also the MP who had to resign for sending what appears to be revenge porn photos to people.
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which turned out to be not one, not two, but more than three cases. And there appears to be worries about the way that that was dealt with as well. And then, of course, you've got the story of Michael Wood, this week's National Party crisis. William Wood, like you would just say, Labour MP. Yes, I've made that mistake many times in the past and I refuse to apologise.
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So William Wood is the candidate for Palmerston North. And four years ago, he made a video where he impersonated Adolf Hitler. Now in his defeats, he was 14 years old at the time. I don't know about you, but I seem to recall that at the age of 14, I was a complete idiot. Now, Josh, I want to respond that in two ways. One, that might well be true, but why is an 18-year-old running for parliament?
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that's the real question. And two, last year he was caught doing an okay sign whilst wearing a mega hat, which indicates that his foolishness is not four years old, it's within the last 12 months.
00:38:19
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Indeed. Yes, I mean it does like youthful indiscretion and what have you and all that with all the talk that's happened over the last few years of how we're going to just have to be a bit more forgiving when it comes to MPs because everything you ever do these days is online even when you're an idiot teenager.
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But there's a difference between a youthful indiscretion showing up for a seasoned politician and a youthful indiscretion showing up for someone who's still a bloody youth. Now this is not my saying that young people shouldn't become MPs. I just also think that if the person who is campaigning to be an MP has engaged in Hitler impressions within, say, the last 10 years or so,
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They probably should be ruled out of contention. You would think so, wouldn't you? And yet. So yes, that's the latest one. Who the hell knows what's going to happen next week?
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Well, I mean, given that there was a poll that was out earlier today and National's last response to a bad poll was to basically cite some kind of polling conspiracy, I imagine we'll be getting a similar story tomorrow when National tries to explain why polling at 32% actually isn't how things are really turning out in the electorate.
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Yes, we'll just have to see. Now, our last story for the episode is a little more weighty, certainly a little more tragic. A week or so ago, there was a three-car crash on State Highway 1 near Tokaroa, and among the people involved in the crash were
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47-year-old Yue Xiong Wang and 48-year-old Weiguao Shi, who unfortunately died, and a third man who was traveling with them, Mr. Yu Hongming, last I heard, was in the intensive care unit in hospital. Now, this is somewhat significant because these three men were activists within the Chinese community in New Zealand who apparently on their way to present a petition to the government asking them to take the issue
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of CCP political interference in New Zealand's democracy seriously. And so while there doesn't appear to be any evidence that this is anything other than a tragic accident, various people have put it to the police that maybe they should just be extra super sure that there wasn't any foul play involved in this particular case.
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And this is off the back of the weird story of Professor Anne-Marie Brady, who's a specialist in Chinese influence overseas, who claims that her officers in the South Island have been broken into and her car was sabotaged. Now, we should point out an international investigation, so jointly the New Zealand Police Force and Interpol,
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investigated these claims and could find no evidence of sabotage on the car, something that Brady has basically said is part of a whitewash. But there is a pre-existing story here of fears of Chinese influence and potential malfeasance in our nation state.
00:41:48
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Yes, so as Professor Brady herself, speaking to parliament who raised these issues, which is that, yes, there is no evidence, but within apparently the New Zealand Chinese community, there are people who are worried that sabotage could have been involved.
Episode Conclusion & Teaser
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So I think they were, initially, at least, I think they just wanted to make sure that the police considered that as a possibility. But I don't know that the investigation into the crash has gone any further than that.
00:42:18
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Not as far as I'm aware So I think that is all the news we have for you on this this July Conspira news episode for 2020 So we'll wrap this up but then go on to record a patron bonus episode and what a patron bonus episode it promises to be because this is patron bonus episode 100
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And so we've got a special episode planned for our patrons. It's the secret history of the podcaster's guide to the conspiracy. We'll be going into what happened before the show, my career on radio, how the show was developed, and so much more. So much more, I assume.
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So if you'd like to find out the dirty dark secrets behind the genesis of this podcast, and you're already a patron, well good news, you can just listen into that episode when you're done with this one. If you'd like to become a patron, then do that.
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go to patreon.com look for the podcaster's guide to the conspiracy and sign yourself up and you'll get not this episode but 99 previous ones and possibly even more than that because we have the little there's been other little little bonusy bits and so on the numbering always gets a little bit skewed so yeah this is saying that our canonical numbering system is
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not particularly orthodox. A little ad hoc. In fact I'm also fairly sure that we've actually managed to skip an episode numerically at some particular point in time. So even though this is technically episode 277, I have a strong suspicion it's actually episode 276.
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I thought we fixed that, or did we do it again? I think we did it again. I need to go and check. But I mean, numbers. They're just fiction, right? Exactly. I mean, it's 2020, but who the hell knows what that means? What with your Gregorian calendars and your Julian calendars? I mean, this year's been going on for about four decades now.
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Exactly. So I think we're allowed a little bit of slippage. But anyway, we're calling this episode bonus episode 100. So you're going to get a special episode and you'll bloody like it.
00:44:31
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Now, I think that is everything we had to say to you, dear listener, patron or not, we appreciate your audience. So we'll wrap things up now and then get recording the bonus one. But to everyone who's listening right now, including anyone who might still be listening on Discord, good for you. I think it's simply time to say goodbye. And I'm going to recommend you don't watch the 2011 prequel, The Thing.
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And remember, they're coming to get you, Barbara.