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Kentucky's Autumn Insect Blitz

S2 E43 · Hort Culture
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As the leaves change and temperatures drop in Kentucky, many insects seek shelter indoors. Join us as we discuss the most common fall pests that can invade your home and how to prevent and eliminate them. We'll cover everything from the pesky housefly to the ever present Asian lady beetle. Learn about their habits, behaviors, and effective control methods to help reduce the numbers of the fall invaders.  

Kentucky Pest News:  Fall Invaders


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Playful Banter and Weather Chat

00:00:16
Alexis
Hello, beautiful plant people and co hosts. How are we doing today?
00:00:20
Brett
Wow.
00:00:20
atack2010
Mm.
00:00:21
Brett
So we're not beautiful plant people.
00:00:21
Jessica
Hello.
00:00:22
Alexis
I mean, you're, you're an extraordinary plant person.
00:00:23
atack2010
I'm a co-host, so I'm not a beautiful plant people.
00:00:25
Brett
Yeah.
00:00:25
Jessica
um Oh.
00:00:28
Alexis
Let's not, not, ah yeah, but not, you're welcome.
00:00:28
Brett
Wow.
00:00:28
atack2010
You guys are all both.
00:00:29
Brett
But not beautiful, not defined by my looks. I like that.
00:00:32
Alexis
You're welcome. How's everybody feeling? Good. Yeah.
00:00:34
Jessica
Pretty good.
00:00:35
Alexis
Chris fall, all those good things.
00:00:36
atack2010
Good feeling fall-like here in Kentucky at the time of this recording.
00:00:36
Brett
feeling Feeling crisp.
00:00:38
Alexis
Yeah.
00:00:39
Brett
I do feel a bit crackly.
00:00:40
atack2010
The weather is very nice.
00:00:41
Jessica
This is very nice.
00:00:42
Alexis
Yeah. I think I'm going to answer with that. Like how are you? How are you? How are you? I'm just gonna be like crisp. I feel like that's going to be my new answer.
00:00:47
atack2010
Crisp.
00:00:48
Alexis
I'm just crisp.
00:00:48
Jessica
I'm going to be like, OK.
00:00:49
Alexis
Yeah.
00:00:49
atack2010
Bubbly.
00:00:50
Alexis
Uh, all right. Well, pretty used to that Alexis. Uh, okay. Question.

Humorous Food Dislikes

00:00:56
atack2010
Of course.
00:00:56
Alexis
What is a food that you don't like, but that everybody else does?
00:01:04
atack2010
I got it.
00:01:05
Alexis
Like what got it go, right?
00:01:06
Jessica
Mm, yeah, I got one.
00:01:08
atack2010
Pickled pig's feet.
00:01:10
Jessica
That everybody else likes.
00:01:10
Alexis
and Okay. Okay. Not everybody else likes that one, babe.
00:01:12
atack2010
No.
00:01:12
Brett
That was the inverse.
00:01:13
Alexis
but No, no.
00:01:14
atack2010
No, I thought you said that I like that not not everybody else likes.
00:01:15
Brett
That was the opposite. No, no, no.
00:01:17
atack2010
as i I reverse that.
00:01:18
Brett
One that you don't like that everybody else does.
00:01:18
Alexis
The opposite of that.
00:01:18
Jessica
Oh, you like Pickle's Pig's Feet?
00:01:20
Brett
in Inverse of that.
00:01:20
atack2010
Oh, so we're we're we're we're going the inverse way of this.
00:01:24
Alexis
Yeah.
00:01:24
atack2010
Well, then I'll just think about it.
00:01:24
Brett
andop Basically your unpopular food opinion.
00:01:26
Alexis
Yeah.
00:01:27
Jessica
But you do like those, Ray?
00:01:27
Alexis
What's your unpopular food opinion?
00:01:27
atack2010
Yes.
00:01:29
atack2010
Hmm.
00:01:29
Jessica
You like Pickle Pig's Feet?
00:01:31
atack2010
Oh, I do. I absolutely love those. Yes, I do. um
00:01:34
Brett
Is there memory attached to it in particular or you feel like you would love it you would just for the love of the foot?
00:01:36
Jessica
Don on a foot.
00:01:37
atack2010
No, just as a kid seeing that in the jar and thinking, wow, that's gross.
00:01:40
Alexis
but
00:01:42
atack2010
I'm going to have to give me some of that. Yeah, no. And Kroger's, it was, I remember the aisle and everything.
00:01:44
Brett
a
00:01:47
atack2010
Mom was like, you're not going to eat that. That's disgusting. I'm like, I want that. So, and and I love it.
00:01:50
Jessica
Oh, no, I just know.
00:01:51
atack2010
So.
00:01:52
Alexis
And now we know where your kid gets it from.
00:01:54
atack2010
Yeah, strange, but no, um I miss them.
00:01:55
Brett
Wait, so so you're saying that you were a pioneer of eating putt pickled pig's feet in your family?
00:02:00
atack2010
I mean, I think it was done before then because, you know, we butchered our own hogs in the in the fall.
00:02:03
Brett
Skip's a generation.
00:02:05
atack2010
It was kind of a tradition.
00:02:06
Jessica
is yeah
00:02:06
atack2010
We'd all get the uncles together and scrape and do all that and, you know, all the stuff.
00:02:07
Jessica
Yeah, but.
00:02:11
atack2010
Now we never pickled our own pigs feet because that was a very involved process.
00:02:14
Jessica
Yeah. And like, like, it's different.
00:02:17
atack2010
Very.
00:02:18
Jessica
Like you see the pig, but then the pigs turn into sausage and other things and you're like, Oh, that's just sausage.
00:02:24
Alexis
Really?
00:02:24
Jessica
Versus if you see the feet in the freezer, you're like, Oh, that was.
00:02:24
Alexis
Yeah. See the foot.
00:02:27
atack2010
Yeah.
00:02:28
Alexis
That was Gub Gub's foot.
00:02:29
Jessica
as our Yeah. Oh.
00:02:30
atack2010
Yes, that was bacon or Sally's foot or whoever.
00:02:30
Jessica
go go
00:02:33
atack2010
Yeah, that's a little different. Yeah, I derailed this conversation.
00:02:35
Jessica
ah govin reba
00:02:35
Brett
he loved He loved that foot.
00:02:37
atack2010
Yeah, not a foot to stand on.
00:02:37
Alexis
isn
00:02:38
Jessica
Yeah, can't do it.
00:02:38
Brett
It was one of four he that he had.
00:02:39
atack2010
Yeah. Yes, it doesn't need that one.
00:02:41
Alexis
ah His back right one was his favorite.
00:02:43
atack2010
Yeah, so I messed that up. I messed that up. So ah somebody else go.
00:02:48
Jessica
I have two that I feel like are kind of similar.
00:02:49
atack2010
OK.
00:02:50
Alexis
Hmm.
00:02:51
Jessica
Maybe not. They're both cheeses.
00:02:54
atack2010
Oh.
00:02:54
Jessica
I do not like blue cheese.
00:02:57
atack2010
Oh, man.
00:02:58
Jessica
No matter how many times I try it.
00:02:58
Brett
Oh.
00:03:00
Alexis
Fair.
00:03:00
Jessica
And the same thing with goat cheese.
00:03:03
atack2010
a
00:03:03
Jessica
Goat cheese tastes like how goats smell.
00:03:04
atack2010
then
00:03:06
Brett
Yeah, yeah, I can i could see that.
00:03:07
atack2010
I don't, yeah, I don't like goat cheese per se.
00:03:07
Alexis
Fair, yeah.
00:03:08
Jessica
what I mean?
00:03:09
atack2010
Yeah.
00:03:09
Jessica
Right?
00:03:10
Brett
Barnyard.
00:03:10
Jessica
And it's one of those things like, I keep trying it.
00:03:12
atack2010
Sour.
00:03:14
Jessica
Or yeah, there's other things like that I keep trying that I'm like, this is the year I'm gonna like it.
00:03:19
Alexis
I'm proud of you for keeping for keep trying, though I am.
00:03:19
Jessica
Like, right, but it it never works out. I just don't like them.
00:03:25
Brett
ah Friend friend of the friend of the pot maybe this is a common thing with people with kids friend of the pod Sean in his house refers to a Bite of something that you think you're probably not gonna like and then you don't like it as a
00:03:25
Alexis
It's okay.

Pumpkin Spice Debate

00:03:37
Brett
no.
00:03:37
Brett
Thank you bite So you tried it.
00:03:38
Alexis
and My coworker called them hello bites, but I guess that was like ah trying something new.
00:03:38
Jessica
ah yeah
00:03:39
Brett
No. Thank you.
00:03:43
Brett
Oh Wow So
00:03:45
Alexis
Hello bite. Yeah.
00:03:47
atack2010
I have a tough time.
00:03:47
Alexis
I like both of those. Yeah. Brett, what's your thing that you don't like that most people do?
00:03:55
Alexis
The limit does not exist.
00:03:55
atack2010
I like the inverse better than this.
00:03:57
Brett
i i I would say within like normie people, I am extremely not picky.
00:04:02
Jessica
Ah,
00:04:03
atack2010
Muggles.
00:04:06
atack2010
Yeah.
00:04:06
Brett
um Like, I mean, I wouldn't be like the guy who's like, oh yeah, I love, you know, I love everything.
00:04:06
Alexis
yeah
00:04:06
Jessica
yeah.
00:04:07
Alexis
name
00:04:11
Brett
I'll eat anything. That's not necessarily true. But as far as like things that are popular, I do think for me, my opinions tend to manifest more as people think this is really good.
00:04:21
Brett
And I'm like, it's fine.
00:04:23
Jessica
You're like, eh.
00:04:23
Alexis
okay Yeah.
00:04:25
Brett
Yeah. I'm trying to, and I'm trying to think of examples that wouldn't offend people.
00:04:26
atack2010
Hmm.
00:04:26
Alexis
Yeah.
00:04:29
Brett
Um,
00:04:29
atack2010
Yeah.
00:04:30
Jessica
Oh, say the ones I don't want to offend.
00:04:30
atack2010
That's a tough question. it's That's a tough one. I mean, popular things are popular for a reason, generally.
00:04:35
Brett
so we'll like, when we went on the, um, Oh, pumpkin spice, that, that is a good example.
00:04:38
Jessica
Is it pumpkin spice?
00:04:42
Brett
I do not care for pumpkin spice.
00:04:42
Jessica
There you go.
00:04:43
atack2010
Jessica, what do you got against Nutmed?
00:04:43
Brett
Thank you, Jessica. That's a good save. But like again, then again, if if someone made me a pumpkin spice latte, I would drink it and be like, yeah, this is pretty good. But I am not like, this is good.
00:04:52
Alexis
Right.
00:04:53
atack2010
mid
00:04:54
Alexis
Yeah, fair.
00:04:54
Brett
Is candy corn popular?
00:04:55
Jessica
You're not counting.
00:04:57
atack2010
This what?
00:04:57
Alexis
Is candy corn popular?
00:04:57
Jessica
Candy corn.
00:04:58
Brett
Is candy corn popular?
00:04:59
Alexis
Are we bringing candy corn back into the discussion again?
00:05:00
Jessica
Again!
00:05:00
atack2010
Candy corn is popular, Brett.
00:05:02
Jessica
It is popular.
00:05:02
atack2010
Candy corn is popular.
00:05:03
Brett
Then mark me down for candy corn because it sucks.
00:05:05
atack2010
Yes. For those that like sorrow, here's the food for you.
00:05:09
Jessica
Oh!
00:05:10
Brett
is
00:05:10
Jessica
ah Right, I told you.
00:05:10
Brett
Yeah, I thought a lot about the idea of like, well, if you just add a bunch of stuff to it, it actually tastes pretty good.
00:05:11
atack2010
Jessica, if you totally mask the taste and texture and hide it into oblivion, it's not bad.
00:05:15
Brett
and Like, okay.
00:05:20
Brett
Yeah. If you had enough peanuts that it tastes like you're eating peanuts, then it's pretty good.
00:05:21
Alexis
I like the taste and the texture of candy corn.
00:05:21
atack2010
Sorry, Jessica.
00:05:25
atack2010
If it tastes like peanuts.
00:05:28
Alexis
Um, my thing.
00:05:28
Brett
What about you? What about you, Alexis?
00:05:30
Alexis
Yeah. My thing that I will eat. It's just like, I'll pick them off if the opportunity presents itself is bell peppers. I don't like bell peppers. I've never liked them.
00:05:39
Brett
Like green ones?
00:05:41
Alexis
any of them i can taste the flavor yeah and i like if they're on if they're on something or in something i will eat them if they're cooked if they're fresh i will absolutely not touch them i don't care what they're dipped in lard
00:05:42
atack2010
Oh, what?
00:05:42
Brett
Even red?
00:05:44
atack2010
Even the red ones, the sweet ones?
00:05:47
Brett
Bro.
00:05:50
atack2010
How about if they're dipped in blue cheese, would you eat them?
00:05:53
Brett
I can, oh my gosh, I can go with you.
00:05:55
atack2010
Wow.
00:05:55
Jessica
Thank you. I, I get that though.
00:05:56
Brett
I can go with you on the green ones, but not the colored ones.
00:05:58
atack2010
wow Wow.
00:06:00
Alexis
Whatever, you know, that flavor that the green ones have, that like aftertaste, I taste that in the red ones as well.
00:06:04
Brett
Yes.
00:06:05
Alexis
And that's what I don't like. I can like, whatever that compound is, I'm just like, well yeah, fresh.
00:06:07
Jessica
Yeah, I get that.
00:06:08
Brett
Jessica, you get it or you agree?
00:06:10
atack2010
i'm not like
00:06:11
Alexis
I won't touch them.
00:06:11
atack2010
um
00:06:13
Jessica
I, I like, I prefer them cooked than a fresh web hopper.
00:06:17
Brett
Yeah.
00:06:18
Alexis
I can tolerate them cooked, but I don't.
00:06:18
Jessica
Like I can't stand out in the fit. I can eat a tomato out in the field, like an apple, but I'm not going to do that with a pepper.
00:06:22
Alexis
Yes, same.
00:06:25
Jessica
but like people in my family can like just eat them like an apple out in the field.
00:06:25
atack2010
and I like bell peppers, however. Yeah.
00:06:27
Alexis
Hmm. Yeah, whatever that I don't know what that compound is. I need to look it up.
00:06:31
atack2010
I'm that way with arugula, that compound. I'm a part of the minority that can taste that. And it makes me physically gag when I taste like a fancy salad.
00:06:37
Jessica
Oh, I like arugula.
00:06:37
Brett
It's cilantro or arugula?
00:06:38
Alexis
Oh, of rocket.
00:06:40
atack2010
What's that?
00:06:41
Brett
Cilantro or arugula?
00:06:42
Alexis
So.
00:06:43
atack2010
Arugula. It's more arugula, like a, now maybe cilantro is kind of fine, but there's a compound in there.
00:06:44
Jessica
oh
00:06:45
Brett
Whoa, I've never heard of that.
00:06:48
Jessica
Now,
00:06:49
atack2010
It makes me gag, makes me, look yeah, I can't do it.
00:06:49
Alexis
So.
00:06:52
Jessica
cilantro kind of ties in to what we're going to talk to about today.
00:06:55
Alexis
Oh, beautiful, beautiful segue, Jessica.
00:06:55
atack2010
Okay.
00:06:57
Brett
What are we talking about?
00:06:58
atack2010
Nice.
00:06:58
Jessica
Now that is something, now that you now now that you have brought that up, that is something I also, I can deal with it, but every time when I eat cilantro, I'm going to think of stink bugs.
00:06:58
atack2010
Jessica's bringing us home.
00:06:59
Brett
I don't even remember.
00:06:59
atack2010
Bring us home.
00:07:08
Brett
a
00:07:12
Jessica
Because the same chemical that like makes up cilantro, that like tastes the smell is the same thing that stink bugs use for their stinkiness.
00:07:13
Brett
That's so true
00:07:24
Alexis
for there.
00:07:24
Brett
yeah see I can eat I can eat I can eat stink bugs, but I can't eat cilantro.
00:07:24
Jessica
So everyone always talks about it being soap, but for me, stink bugs.
00:07:29
Brett
It's weird
00:07:29
Jessica
Right.
00:07:29
atack2010
So that compound, is that a defense mechanism?
00:07:30
Jessica
Yeah.
00:07:32
atack2010
The stinkiness of the stink bug?
00:07:35
Jessica
Yeah. Just a way to try to deter predators and us from bothering them.
00:07:37
atack2010
Gotcha. Like eating? Gotcha.
00:07:40
Alexis
i
00:07:40
Brett
Makes me get out the limes.
00:07:42
Alexis
i yeah see I feel like we should take a second to be like how humans, when there's plants, they're just like, oh, was this used to deflect anybody from bothering you? ah Make it mine.
00:07:52
Alexis
like We're like a tobacco, like a hot capsaicin peppers, where humans are like, ah this is great.
00:07:53
atack2010
Yes.
00:08:00
Alexis
like Every time a plant's like, damn it, I just feel like they get
00:08:02
Brett
Yeah. It's like, I got i got this sweet defense mechanism. Check it out. And they're like, oh, this is delicious slash gets me jacked.
00:08:06
Alexis
And then we came meandering by and we're like, let's do it.
00:08:06
Jessica
I love it.
00:08:08
atack2010
Oh, give me some of that.
00:08:11
Alexis
Does it assault my taste buds? Yes. Do I love it? Absolutely.
00:08:14
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:08:15
Brett
Yes and yes.
00:08:15
atack2010
Yeah. So I guess backing up just one step. That was a beautiful segue, by

Fall Insect Invaders: Stink Bugs

00:08:20
Jessica
That was good.
00:08:20
atack2010
the way, Jessica.
00:08:21
atack2010
Fall invaders is the topic of the day. More specifically, ah seasonal insect invaders, because fall invaders could be many things when we're talking about invaders.
00:08:31
Alexis
Invaders.
00:08:31
atack2010
But in this case, we're talking about mostly insects, mostly. And we started off this conversation with stink bugs. Is it about that time of the year for those, Jessica, or?
00:08:40
Jessica
ah Yes, I have already started smelling them health outside my garage.
00:08:41
atack2010
No.
00:08:45
atack2010
Oh, wow.
00:08:46
Jessica
I used to, in a previous life job, ah when brown marmorated stink bug first arrived at our state, I actually helped raise them in colonies, which sounds crazy, but it was a way ah we were putting the eggs bright.
00:09:01
Brett
You were the one that released them.
00:09:02
atack2010
you I was thinking, you're the one.
00:09:03
Jessica
ah We were putting eggs out ah to see what parasitized them, because we were hoping for some like natural predators.
00:09:03
Alexis
that'
00:09:04
atack2010
No.
00:09:10
Jessica
It was really cool when it happened to see like wasp hatch out of the stink bug eggs. But anyways, it is the time that time for them to start coming in.
00:09:15
Brett
Whoa.
00:09:19
Jessica
And once they start coming, they kind of release pheromones that say, hey, everybody, come on over. It's at a great place to stay. And then you can see quite a few. um that come in. Probably more are in your house than you realize are there. um They can get in some pretty tight spaces. ah But the thing to keep in mind with the brown marmorary stink bug is they're not reproducing in your house. They are not trying to eat any of your house plants or anything. I haven't ever seen anything on my house plants.
00:09:50
Jessica
I know they freak a lot of people out because they're really loud when they fly around. um They have that cilantro smell, but they're basically there to hang out for the winter and then leave immediately in the spring when it starts getting warm again.
00:10:02
Jessica
um ah But the trick with those guys is to knock them in some soapy water. Don't crush them because that's when they really start to stink or can you know draw some other guys in there, unless you like that smell.
00:10:13
Alexis
Unless you like the smell of cilantro.
00:10:13
atack2010
is is Is it the brown marmorated that the stink bug that you can put a lot over of just like a shallow dish of water and they'll be gravitated towards that? I've seen that as a trap solution for those.
00:10:25
Jessica
Yeah. And that works great also with like attic flies when people get attic flies, um, which are the same as like those horn and face flies.
00:10:27
atack2010
Does it? OK. Well, gotcha. Yeah.
00:10:35
Jessica
So those of you who live out in the country and have a lot of cattle around you, and then you suddenly have an influx of flies in your house.
00:10:35
atack2010
Mm.
00:10:41
atack2010
Yeah, we we get calls on that all the time in Bourbon County, yeah.
00:10:42
Jessica
Those are those guys. But that's a common thing, like a light over a bucket of water and they kind of just like knock themselves down in there.
00:10:51
atack2010
Fall down in. I have read and heard, I've never tried that trap myself, but it's a very effective trap for like, you know, distinct bugs and other insects, as you're saying.
00:11:00
Jessica
hu so Oh my goodness.
00:11:00
atack2010
So cool.
00:11:00
Brett
See, I get confused because my my soapy water always tastes like cilantro water.
00:11:04
atack2010
Yeah, it's weird. and Yeah, don't drink the soapy water.
00:11:07
Alexis
I don't, I don't smell, I've never smelled cilantro from a stink bug. So I don't know. And I do like cilantro, which is good.
00:11:14
Brett
Are you for real?
00:11:15
Alexis
Yeah, no, I've never, I never noticed it. Even when I've crushed them, I literally crushed one in my fingers last night and did not smell it.
00:11:19
atack2010
i I don't have much of a sensitivity to it either.
00:11:23
Brett
You didn't smell it at all?
00:11:24
Alexis
No.
00:11:25
Jessica
Oh my gosh.
00:11:25
atack2010
You got a weak one.
00:11:26
Brett
Bro, do you have, do you maybe you have COVID?
00:11:30
Alexis
I can taste the cilantro.
00:11:32
Brett
I thought you were gonna say you can taste the stink bug.
00:11:32
Jessica
Did you taste the stink bug?
00:11:32
atack2010
You tasted a stink bug? Yeah.
00:11:33
Brett
Yeah.
00:11:34
atack2010
Did you taste the stink bug? I hope not.
00:11:35
Alexis
Cilantro.
00:11:36
atack2010
Yeah.
00:11:37
Jessica
Hmm.
00:11:37
atack2010
So stink bugs, they don't.
00:11:37
Brett
yeah to to me To me, the stink bugs have more of a strong smell than this. i Well, I haven't tasted the stink bugs, to be fair.
00:11:37
Alexis
Just throw it.
00:11:45
atack2010
and
00:11:46
Jessica
I have not either.
00:11:48
Alexis
I wonder if Dr.
00:11:48
Brett
yeah Could you?
00:11:50
Alexis
Potter has, because I feel like if anybody has, it's him.
00:11:51
Jessica
He, yeah, he would most likely be the one.
00:11:51
Brett
Is there a toxicity issue there?
00:11:55
Alexis
Yeah, don't eat sink bugs.
00:11:55
Jessica
He would taste them.
00:11:56
Alexis
I feel like we need to say that.
00:11:57
Brett
We don't, I mean,
00:11:58
Jessica
But they're not gonna hurt your pets and stuff if they do.
00:11:59
Brett
Yeah, until until we can do until we can do more research.
00:12:02
atack2010
They don't typically sting or bite or anything like that, do they?
00:12:03
Jessica
Like, if you... No, no.
00:12:06
atack2010
Once they get in, yeah.
00:12:07
Brett
How many stink bugs is too many stink bugs to eat?
00:12:07
Jessica
Yeah, they're just...
00:12:08
atack2010
Yeah.
00:12:10
atack2010
It's like peaches.
00:12:11
Jessica
It's a good question.
00:12:11
Alexis
The limit does not exist.
00:12:13
Jessica
You know what? I bet Dr. Larson would do a research study on that for us as well.
00:12:17
Brett
and well Yeah, it reminds me of the of the cicada episode.
00:12:21
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:12:21
Alexis
Oh yeah.
00:12:21
atack2010
Oh, that was a good one. That veered off in a direction.
00:12:22
Brett
and ah ray ray Ray was like so excited when we started talking about eating them. And Josh mett josh too.
00:12:29
atack2010
Absolutely.
00:12:30
Brett
I'm like, yeah, okay.
00:12:31
atack2010
Extreme food.
00:12:32
Alexis
And then we learned that like if you have a shellfish allergy, you can't eat cicadas. And that was mind-boggling to me.
00:12:35
Jessica
right
00:12:37
Alexis
like Excuse me, what?
00:12:37
Brett
I would say in general, I find that there's times where like with the idea of these home invader pest insects that come in when it basically starts getting cold outside.
00:12:38
atack2010
How did they found that out?
00:12:52
Brett
A lot of times I look and I find them and I'm like, oh man, people are really concerned about this. It must be like really destructive in some way. And usually they're not.
00:13:02
atack2010
Yeah.
00:13:02
Brett
That's been my experience.
00:13:03
Jessica
Right.
00:13:03
Brett
it's like It's gross and therefore I would like for it to die.
00:13:07
Jessica
Most?
00:13:07
atack2010
Well, I saw the study was amazing that, like you said, they they don't do anything, but ah it was a UK study. I'm pretty sure an old one that did they just polled people and they had just a just overwhelmingly negative opinion, even though the insects were not having like a big impact on. It was the fact that there was a spider there or a stink bug or whatever. so yeah
00:13:27
Jessica
yeah As you know, I am a bug person. And I think it like either her people are like amazed or they're terrified when I always am like, look, insects are all around you, like all the time. And if we did not have them, we could not function. And they get freaked out by that. But right, you're exactly right. Almost all those insects that come in in the fall and not all insects, right? Some of our arachnids too that cause I feel like the most issues for people.
00:13:54
atack2010
Have no love for spiders.
00:13:54
Alexis
KBGBs.
00:13:55
Jessica
myself included with some of them, because again, that's an arachnid, not an insect. um You know, none of them, they're just there to hang out.
00:14:01
atack2010
Yeah.
00:14:03
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:14:05
Jessica
I mean, I don't necessarily want them hanging out in my house either, but I'm not a worried that they're going to hurt my pets or my children or eat my food or stuff. You know, the fall invaders are very different than cockroaches, right?
00:14:15
Alexis
Yeah.
00:14:19
Alexis
yeah
00:14:20
atack2010
That can reproduce inside your home, yeah.
00:14:21
Jessica
That's a whole different ball game.
00:14:24
atack2010
yeah Yeah, we were talking about, oh, yeah, go ahead, Alexis.
00:14:24
Alexis
Who? What about I would say, well, what about Asian lady beetles? Coming inside.
00:14:31
Jessica
Yeah, there it is same as like the brown marmorated stink bug, right?
00:14:31
atack2010
Same, or is it the same for them?
00:14:36
Jessica
They've been around longer, I think. okay they are Well, brown marmorated and like these those lady beetles both arrived in like the 90s, but

Lady Beetles vs. Stink Bugs

00:14:45
Jessica
we just now, you know the lady beetles have been here a lot longer.
00:14:49
Jessica
Originally, it was thought that they were harming a lot of our native lady beetles, but they've done recent studies that have showed that they're really not, that they, They're not bad, like you know but they're not like making a huge biological control impact either, but they're not you know they're just around, and they do the same thing.
00:14:59
Alexis
Sweet. There's kind of around.
00:15:08
Jessica
They're coming in, they are overwintering, and then they want to get out. ah With those guys, you just got to be careful about crushing them because they can stain like fabric and stuff, yeah.
00:15:16
atack2010
Yeah, stain things, yeah.
00:15:17
Alexis
saying Suck up with your vacuum.
00:15:20
atack2010
On all of them, you know, the thing about a vacuum I've learned with like all of these, and and that's my preferred method on the inside where I don't put down a lot of chemical products at all because in the end, if they die, you're going to have to vacuum them up.
00:15:33
atack2010
So I skip the middle step of the the chemical product just personally and go straight for the vacuum. But I have learned I have both a bagged and a bagless vac. If you suck up a lot of lady beetles in a vacuum that has a bag, that's going to release some interesting interesting smells if you keep that bag in the vacuum.
00:15:50
Alexis
It's a bad time.
00:15:51
Jessica
Yeah.
00:15:52
atack2010
So beware that if you have a new bag, you may want to, if you have a choice, go with the bag list because you have to empty the bag list almost every single time.
00:15:52
Alexis
ah
00:16:00
atack2010
and it it doesn't produce that smell because you're emptying it. But once you pick up a lot of these stink bugs or lady beetles in a bagged vacuum, the very fact that they're just mixed in with all the dust and stuff in there and the air comes in and then it's pushed back out of that bagged vacuum, there will be a smell in your house, I assure you.
00:16:18
atack2010
So be be aware of that, but I do like the vacuuming method for just kind of picking them up and getting getting rid of them that way.
00:16:25
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:16:25
atack2010
I think it's um one of the best options for a lot of these things on the inside is just quickly dispatching them with that method.
00:16:36
atack2010
We have been getting a few calls and and is it it must be really hard to predict Like when's going to be a bad year for lady beetles or brown marmorated stink bugs.
00:16:47
atack2010
I mean, is that the case or are there models or I mean, is there any kind of predictor methods for this?
00:16:51
Jessica
i where I worked with Brian Marmarated, you know, Lexington hit its peak a couple of years ago with peak population numbers.
00:16:58
atack2010
Okay. Yeah.
00:17:00
Jessica
And it is, it's usually around that first weekend in October, we start seeing them roll in.
00:17:05
atack2010
Cooler weather. Okay.
00:17:06
Jessica
um Yeah, and it kind of, it's just ah like with all insects, and daylight changing, right? Days are getting shorter. That's what like, you know, triggers it for them to be like, oh, it's time to start like moving in.
00:17:20
Jessica
Even if those temperatures are not cooler yet, it's at daylight. Um, cause I've, I've seen, you know, I've seen stink bugs. I've seen some of the Asian lady beetles. Unfortunately where I live, like the flies cause I have cattle around me.
00:17:33
atack2010
Yes.
00:17:34
Jessica
Um, I ah don't around me, but I get lots of calls about it. Uh, box elder bugs.
00:17:40
atack2010
Yeah, we get a lot of those calls. And ah people that live around streams where is the preferred habitat of boxed elder trees, which is a native habitat for the boxed elder bugs.
00:17:51
atack2010
anybody it's always always the My first question to homeowners is, do you live around a stream or waterway? And you know the majority of times they do. where And that leads me immediately to go down the boxed elder bug path.
00:18:04
Alexis
Describe what those bugs look like.
00:18:04
atack2010
so
00:18:06
Alexis
Cause I think that one's like less known than stink bugs and Asian lady beetle.
00:18:11
atack2010
The Box Teller bug?
00:18:12
Alexis
Yeah.
00:18:12
atack2010
Well, it changes radically over its lifetime. Jessica, I mean, the look of it really changes.
00:18:15
Alexis
Well, like what, what would the adults look like that are coming into your home?
00:18:15
Jessica
Yeah, it's gonna have like that diamond shaped body.
00:18:17
atack2010
Yeah.
00:18:21
atack2010
Yeah.
00:18:21
Jessica
And the other thing about it, it's gonna be like a dark, almost like a charcoal color with bright red striping kind of on it, bright red marking, which I think that's what also gets people worried about it.
00:18:29
atack2010
Yeah.
00:18:35
Jessica
The other thing that it looks and we won't go to a lot of detail about this, but it also isn't like the same kind of family as the kissing bug. That is a dangerous insect.
00:18:48
Jessica
But these guys do not bite humans or anything. They again are looking for a place to overwinter.
00:18:53
atack2010
Yeah.
00:18:55
Jessica
Sometimes you'll see them actually just kind of like on the outside of houses hanging out, um but they don't harm anything.
00:19:02
Alexis
Oh, yeah.
00:19:03
Jessica
They also often get confused with milkweed bugs as well because they have that bright red color, um but they'll be in masses together.
00:19:06
atack2010
yeah Yeah, the immature stages of those are very striking, very red.
00:19:08
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:19:15
atack2010
If you've ah seen a lot of those in one spot, they can be, I mean, the color you can pick out from a long ways away. on the immature stages of those. But I know that one's often mistaken for some of our natives, but so is the brown marmorated in it.
00:19:29
atack2010
Isn't there a stink bug that is native? too I was thinking to Kentucky, ah there's some lookalocks I was thinking. I don't i don't remember the specifics.
00:19:35
Jessica
Yeah, we have several brown stink bugs that look native or like spine soldier bug that looks like a, looks like a stink bug.
00:19:39
atack2010
Okay, yeah.
00:19:46
Jessica
Um, that is brown in color. Um, the, that, uh, brown marmorated stink bug, it's actually, it's a little bigger, which is kind of impressive that it can fit into so many places, like tight fittings spaces for it to be such a larger, uh, stink bug to get in your house.
00:19:56
Alexis
this
00:19:56
atack2010
Yeah.
00:20:03
Alexis
That's how I feel when I get into my jeans in the morning.
00:20:05
atack2010
It's the dryer don't line dry everything.
00:20:06
Jessica
Right.
00:20:06
Alexis
I'm like, how did I get these on?
00:20:10
atack2010
So that that's the three biggies is the, uh, the three we just now talked about, but there are some others, uh, but other than, I mean, I know we're talking about fall invaders here, but it seems like that we get calls throughout the year here recently, for instance.
00:20:25
atack2010
We had a lot of moisture, a lot of rain. I mean, you know, lots of rain up down the East coast. But when we get either a really dry spell or will a really wet spell, we tend to have home invaders as far as insects go during those times, too, I've noticed. But fall, it seems like that's a seasonal thing. um It just comes every single year. You can kind of look for these things, seems like.
00:20:50
Jessica
Another one to mention that I said, not an insect, but arachnids are wolf spiders.
00:20:56
atack2010
and
00:20:56
Jessica
This is the time where they're trying to run in. I know, like, I have to tell myself constantly that I'm like, you are good. You are a great predator. You're eating all the bad things out there, but they're just so big.
00:21:10
Jessica
Right? Like they can live to be five years old.
00:21:11
atack2010
They're impressive, yeah.
00:21:12
Jessica
They're big. They're fast. Um, I live in an older farmhouse, so they like run in my door this time of year and I kind of like stomp my feet and chase them back out the door.
00:21:25
Jessica
I'm trying not to kill them.
00:21:25
Alexis
I'm just, are you going to just imagine Jessica just stomping her feet facing off with a giant spider trying to get it out the door?
00:21:29
Jessica
And I'm like, get out.
00:21:34
Jessica
right? Um, but because I try to tell myself, I'm like, they're good. And they, that you see them more with the, the weather change, right? Where the temperatures have started getting cooler.
00:21:44
atack2010
Oh, okay. Are they temperature too? Okay.
00:21:46
Jessica
Yeah. And then a lot of times when they come in your house, like, again, they're not, they're not harmful to you. They will bite, right? Like if you were to pick it up and mess with it. And people have, I've been told, like like they say, they compare it to like a bee sting, maybe feeling, but otherwise they're not going to bite their predators.
00:22:05
Jessica
They don't make, you know, webs or anything really. Um, but they're going to eat other insects in your house and they're most acci, they're like an accidental, like coming in your house just to escape the element.
00:22:14
atack2010
Yeah, we get those in our basement.
00:22:15
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:22:17
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:22:18
atack2010
We have glue traps out and it's amazing how many of those, like little insect glue traps that we leave out year round and like our the utility room part

Combatting Spider Invasions

00:22:26
atack2010
of our basement. It's amazing how many of those things we catch in the fall.
00:22:29
Jessica
And that's a great way to combat those guys. Like if you do not want them in your house um or if any spiders, if you ever have any concerns about like, did I see a brown recluse?
00:22:37
Alexis
Mm hmm.
00:22:39
Jessica
Which probably most likely you did not. ah Most of the time, you know, a lot of people think they see brown recluses and we have hundreds of brown spiders. But once you um actually see one and know what it looks like, it's very easy to identify.
00:22:50
Alexis
Yeah, you know.
00:22:53
Jessica
But going back to what Ray said, those sticky cards, putting them in the corners of rooms because spiders tend to walk around the perimeter of rooms. And that's the best way to trap you know those kind of critters.
00:23:07
Jessica
They like to go around perimeters of rooms along the walls. um But that's just good to you know if you think you have something, catch them that way.
00:23:16
Alexis
Jessica, are you the insect catcher in your house or ah does Sean participate in that activity?
00:23:23
Jessica
Um, I am the insect cut. We're insect people.
00:23:27
Alexis
That's true.
00:23:27
Jessica
Um, but yes.
00:23:27
Alexis
I mean, he did grow up with an entomologist as a father, so.
00:23:32
Jessica
So I would say I'm good at getting them all out. Some of the wolf spiders, I make him get out one time in my life though. There's one spider in Kentucky that I just can't deal with.
00:23:44
Jessica
I can't deal with, and that's a fishing spider. Have anyone ever seen those?
00:23:47
atack2010
Oh, huge. They're huge.
00:23:49
Alexis
No, I don't think I have.
00:23:50
Jessica
Oh my gosh. Like.
00:23:51
atack2010
They're massive. Yeah.
00:23:54
Jessica
I just, I can't, I can't. it does
00:23:55
atack2010
Arachnophobia.
00:23:56
Brett
they're They're mostly just crawling around when I when i see him. I've never caught him out on the on the lake.
00:24:00
Jessica
They're huge.
00:24:01
atack2010
You never went after the hunted them, Brett?
00:24:02
Alexis
Oh, those guys.
00:24:03
atack2010
and
00:24:04
Jessica
Yeah. So I had one and get in my house once and I, yeah, kind of freaked out.
00:24:05
Alexis
Yeah.
00:24:10
atack2010
I realize how big spiders can get when I go down to like Florida and you go to like far Florida. And then you see the webs that are eight foot across the trail and there's tiny birds in the, the web.
00:24:20
Alexis
Eh.
00:24:22
atack2010
And I'm like, whoo, Sheila, I like giant spider territory.
00:24:24
Alexis
and
00:24:27
atack2010
Yeah. Uh, but spiders are my least favorite of all of the, uh, the, I guess they're more of a, not a seasonal invader, but sort of an accidental invader, like you said, but they are my least favorite.
00:24:34
Brett
Can you, can you put words, can you put words to why, why they're, why they're your least favorite or why, you know, like I'm i'm not questioning you.
00:24:39
atack2010
Was that a spider?
00:24:43
atack2010
Probably I grew up with like, no, no, no, uh, spiders have always been snakes.
00:24:45
Brett
I'm just curious if you could put words to it.
00:24:48
atack2010
No problem.
00:24:48
Alexis
Did you see him start to itch when he started talking about it?
00:24:48
atack2010
Copperheads and rattlesnakes. Yeah.
00:24:50
Jessica
Yeah.
00:24:50
atack2010
I started scratching, but, uh, I think it was when I was very young and, you know, we had lots of like fields around and then in the morning I hated walking through like, even though they're beautiful now and appreciation for them, like the orb weavers, the big spiders that have impressive size or the yellow garden spiders, people call them.
00:24:52
Alexis
it
00:25:03
Alexis
a
00:25:08
atack2010
But I'd walk through those webs, and I immediately would start just beating myself, trying to figure out where the spider was. And we had those everywhere around some of our fields.
00:25:14
Jessica
and hu
00:25:16
atack2010
And I would just walk through spider webs. And I think it all started there, and me wondering, where is this spider on me? So it started at a very young age, yeah.
00:25:24
Alexis
That's fair.
00:25:26
Jessica
I like used to not like all spiders and then now I'm like good with most of them, right?
00:25:26
Brett
See ya.
00:25:28
Alexis
Mhm.
00:25:31
Jessica
But except those fishing spiders and I even, my father-in-law is an anthropologist.
00:25:34
atack2010
ah Black widows you're good with? Like even the nasties?
00:25:38
Jessica
Yeah, I think, well, I wouldn't, yeah, black widows are totally fine. um Brown recluses, I definitely do not want them in my house or anything.
00:25:44
atack2010
Uh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:25:48
Jessica
um But I don't know what it is about that fishing spider. And I asked my father-in-law, who is an entomologist? And I was like, why do they bother me? And he was just like, I don't know. And I was like, I can't, they had one in the lab on campus and I would just see it.
00:25:58
atack2010
Something about him.
00:26:01
Jessica
And I was just like, oh my gosh.
00:26:02
Alexis
o It's a
00:26:03
Jessica
Like, I don't know.
00:26:03
atack2010
something about it
00:26:05
Jessica
And there would be a tarantula right next to it. Now am I gonna pick that tarantula up? No, I'm not because that's not like a dog and a cat. Like it's a, you know, it's a spider, right?
00:26:14
atack2010
It's a wild animal.
00:26:18
Brett
Is it that is it the movement of it or is it more the like static shape of it?
00:26:18
Jessica
But I don't know. I don't know what it is about them because the black and yellow ones don't bother me.
00:26:25
Brett
Woman like it like what it freaked you out if it was still And
00:26:25
atack2010
all of the
00:26:29
Jessica
I mean, they're pretty, every time I've seen them, they've been still, I think it's because they've surprised me.
00:26:32
Brett
it freaked you yeah And
00:26:34
Jessica
like everyone that I have approached in the wild.
00:26:37
Alexis
So don't throw Jessica a surprise party because she will cringe.
00:26:40
Brett
if you do it better not be a fishing trip
00:26:40
Jessica
Yeah.
00:26:43
Jessica
All right.
00:26:45
atack2010
Yeah.
00:26:45
Jessica
ah
00:26:46
atack2010
Do not not throw that, Marty.
00:26:46
Alexis
i um I went when I was a student with the UK Horticulture Club to Belize in Guatemala and Mexico. And while we were in Guatemala, we were looking at the ruins there and like walking through the jungle with our guide. And he they have wild tarantulas there, right? And he picked one up just off the forest floor.
00:27:11
Alexis
And it goes here and then just set it on me before I really knew what was happening. So ah I do have a really cool picture from that, ah but that is the.
00:27:19
atack2010
Have you panicking or just playing with the spider?
00:27:21
Alexis
ah ah Yeah, it well, it was kind of like, don't panic, or you're going to freak it out. So you just kind of have to hold all your emotions in.
00:27:27
atack2010
Oh, yeah.
00:27:28
Alexis
They don't exist during that period of time, but ah yeah, and they're really fragile, right?
00:27:30
atack2010
Yeah.
00:27:34
Alexis
Like I didn't know, like you can't drop those things.
00:27:34
atack2010
Yeah.
00:27:35
Jessica
Yeah.
00:27:36
Alexis
Like you would think like a spider, I always think of like spiders are sort of like cats, right?
00:27:39
atack2010
Yeah.
00:27:40
Alexis
Like you can drop them and they're gonna be fine. That is not the case with tarantulas. They will like explode.
00:27:45
Jessica
That's right.
00:27:47
Brett
Well, they aren't getting up to those heights without some dumb human picking them up and putting them on somebody's shoulder. they They're like, I'm staying in my lane down here on the forest floor.
00:27:51
Alexis
I let let it down carefully.
00:27:54
atack2010
And listen, minding my own business.
00:27:54
Alexis
Leave me alone.
00:27:58
Alexis
I want a pet. Okay. Listen, those little jumping spiders are super cute though. The little, the little fuzzy ones that are like, yeah, with the big eyes.
00:28:03
Jessica
Oh, those are cute.
00:28:04
Brett
With the big eyes.
00:28:06
atack2010
Unlike on Pixar.
00:28:07
Alexis
Um, yes.
00:28:07
Jessica
whom
00:28:09
Alexis
Very, but like even in real life, they're that cute, I think.
00:28:13
Brett
Mm hmm.
00:28:13
Alexis
And I, I'm not like a big spider lover, but, uh, I would totally have one of those as a pet.
00:28:19
Jessica
I have one living in my mailbox right now.
00:28:19
Brett
There's a YouTube guy that I... Oh. There's a YouTube guy I follow who has like ah fish and and lizards and and stuff and he has some jumping spiders.
00:28:23
Jessica
Oh. then
00:28:30
Alexis
Uh-huh. There's a girl, uh, I follow, she's got one of the white ones. They're not like something we'd find here, but they're, they're, it's white, which is extra cute.
00:28:35
Brett
Oh.
00:28:35
atack2010
Oh, wow.
00:28:39
Alexis
Cause you can really see all the little tiny cute details on it. And, uh, it's adorable. Like it'll like jump under her hand and then, you know, like it's like a parrot. Like she takes it places.
00:28:49
Alexis
It's crazy.
00:28:49
Brett
Oh, seriously? Yeah. I hadn't, I hadn't seen it out, out of the out of the container.
00:28:51
Alexis
Yeah.
00:28:51
Jessica
Wow.
00:28:53
atack2010
Traveling spotter. i
00:28:55
Alexis
Yeah. Yeah. It'll jump on her hand and I guess it had a some babies and it was like a whole, it was just like a little funny little, you know, Instagram reel about the, her babies and the the babies were contained.
00:29:05
Brett
Wow. This is, she did, she like released them in her house and turn her house into like a preserve for jumping spiders.
00:29:14
Alexis
I will say so.
00:29:16
Jessica
Those are so tiny.
00:29:16
atack2010
oh nots around
00:29:17
Jessica
and
00:29:17
Alexis
I know. Yeah, exactly. They're so they're like dust flying around at the time.
00:29:22
atack2010
we've We've talked about all these creepy crawlies, but we have not given much advice not much advice on ah things that we can do to not not eliminate. i don't think I've never seen anyone effectively eliminate in their home, not completely eliminate, minimize or reduce the prevalence of some of these fall invaders.
00:29:36
Alexis
Minimize.
00:29:38
Jessica
Yep.
00:29:42
atack2010
There are there's some things that we can do, I guess. ah We talked about the glue traps a little bit. That's one of the things I do just for the occasional, you know, spiders mostly because you guys have established my baseline disdain for spiders.
00:29:56
atack2010
ah But I do that for spiders. But what else? There's some other things that homeowners can do, isn't there? As far as um helping the the situation.
00:30:05
Jessica
Well, you know, just making sure like your windows still good.
00:30:05
atack2010
will open
00:30:10
Jessica
Um, I know a lot of people have issues with the at addicts, like insects coming in through there.
00:30:10
atack2010
Yeah.
00:30:13
atack2010
yeah
00:30:15
Jessica
Like my example, I have so many spiders coming in. My, my doors and stuff is because I, we need like a new piece of like weather stripping on the bottom of our screen door.
00:30:23
atack2010
Oh, yeah, that's a common one.
00:30:24
Jessica
Right. So like when our main door is open, it's just a screen door on because it's still, you know,
00:30:25
atack2010
That's a good one. yeah
00:30:30
Jessica
more, you know, decent outside during the day, things can get under there.
00:30:31
atack2010
Yeah.
00:30:34
Jessica
So that's like, should be, you know, a very easy, easy fix. ah ah You know.
00:30:42
Alexis
You add in a couple of kids and it it becomes a little bit more of a task.
00:30:47
atack2010
Seems like the ceiling around it, like caulking, I've heard of caulking around windows.
00:30:50
Jessica
Mm hmm.
00:30:51
Alexis
Around like vents and pipes and stuff like that too.
00:30:51
atack2010
ah Once again, yeah, yeah.
00:30:54
Alexis
um
00:30:55
atack2010
That's a big one. In older and newer homes, you'll find even in newer homes around the, you know, sink popping and, you know, different utilities coming into the home, there'll be some pretty good caps sometimes, especially in older homes.
00:31:09
Alexis
I'm staring at my, I live in an 1800s farmhouse and I'm staring at the brick that has like all kinds of cracks in it. And I'm like, I bet they can get through there. There's like, you know, mortar missing and they're definitely coming in somewhere.
00:31:19
atack2010
Yeah.
00:31:23
Jessica
Yeah. And you'll see like, cause you know, sometimes we've had calls about, well, I have these insects and then they're all around this one window, right? Well, they're probably coming in other places, but then when it's a nice warm sunny day and they're warm inside your house, they're trying to get out cause they think it's warm and then they all are congregating, you know, around the windows or, or particular rooms in the house.
00:31:46
atack2010
yeah
00:31:47
Jessica
It doesn't necessarily mean that room, is you know the source where they're coming in.
00:31:51
Alexis
where they're coming.
00:31:51
Jessica
right They're just trying to already get out of your house that way.
00:31:57
atack2010
And that's a homeowner's that I find, you know, some of the questions I ask when we get calls about, and you know, some of the home insect invaders is I do a lot of questioning on sun exposure and the type of material, the homes built out of, you know, and it all goes back to heat as far as being an attractive source for some of these things. And Jessica, I think you've already said it is, you know, when the temperatures start to drop, that's one of the.
00:32:19
atack2010
you know, days get shorter, nights get longer, ah but the temperature has something

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00:32:23
atack2010
to do with it. And I'm assuming that the orientation of a lot of the homes of ah folks when I talk to them, it's homes that get like sun in the morning.
00:32:32
atack2010
And I guess that makes them more attractive to some of these insects because their neighbors won't have any issue, but their their house their home, their neighbor's house will be oriented just a little bit differently than theirs.
00:32:43
atack2010
Theirs will get more sun early.
00:32:44
Jessica
Yeah. And I think that's really common with um lady beetles from what I've read about them to do that.
00:32:48
atack2010
Yes. Lady, lady Beatles is what I was thinking of.
00:32:50
Jessica
And those um attic flies more so than like the the stink bugs.
00:32:51
atack2010
Yeah.
00:32:53
atack2010
Yes. Flies respond to that big time.
00:32:57
Jessica
The stink bugs are just like, we don't care as long as we can get in.
00:32:58
atack2010
I think they're there. Yeah.
00:32:59
Alexis
If it's warm, we're going.
00:33:01
atack2010
Yeah.
00:33:01
Jessica
Yeah.
00:33:02
atack2010
And then like we were talking about earlier, they, they, they love, like they come in high. I mean, they're going to get into a lot of different homes, but I see, I have a lot of calls that are two story homes with the, I don't know why that is with the stink bugs.
00:33:13
atack2010
And I'd read that somewhere was with Dr. Rick Pessin. Um, some of the information he put out that they tend to come in high on that. So yeah, but it's not, they don't seem to be as temperature sensitive.
00:33:21
Alexis
So check your attics.
00:33:23
atack2010
Yeah.
00:33:25
Alexis
Well, cool.
00:33:26
atack2010
Yeah. So screening and, um, exclusion, we talked about vacuuming, watch out for sucking those things up in, uh, bagged vax, because you may have to put a new bag in.

Non-Chemical Pest Management

00:33:36
atack2010
I do when I forget and use the wrong vacuum, I do have to put a new bag in that thing, but glue traps, all of these are kind of a ah variety of. of controls that that you can use. Notice that we didn't, in ah this entire discussion, didn't mention a lot of chemical controls. if If you're a homeowner and want to explore that, you can call your local extension office. But that's not our first line of defense for these things. Not really.
00:34:00
Jessica
Right. That's it. I was going to mention that. That's like the very, like with our IPM, right, integrative pest management, that's going to be our, our last option that we choose to use and, um,
00:34:10
atack2010
Yes.
00:34:13
atack2010
Because what if you do a good job and you kill them? Guess what? You're still going to have to remove them. if you And I really caution people about setting off. I mean, like, there's many reasons why you would not like to set off a fogger inside your home.
00:34:25
atack2010
But let's say that you did something and killed a lot of lady beetles in a wall void. And that smell is going to stick with you for a while.
00:34:32
Jessica
Mm-hmm.
00:34:33
Alexis
haunt you.
00:34:33
atack2010
And um i ah yes, it will haunt you.
00:34:34
Jessica
It's oh
00:34:36
atack2010
And I've had that situation from a honer moment homeowner, they did a great job and then they opened wall voids and there was just tens of thousands of in all of their walls like these dead lady and they actually made the problem worse by killing them when normally that would vacate the premises when it warmed up.
00:34:44
Alexis
but
00:34:50
Jessica
As somebody through grad school who had to go through like jars and jars of dead insects, that's a whole different smell that you do not want in your house.
00:35:00
atack2010
The smell is pretty rank.
00:35:03
Alexis
m
00:35:03
atack2010
Yeah, it is. It was awful. The the smell was awful. for Yeah.
00:35:06
Brett
Well, I would say, you know, within, you mentioned IPM, you know, one of the, one of the questions that we even evaluate with a pest or disease in IPM is like, is it, is it causing some sort of, is it, is it overcoming the economic threshold of damage that it's, it's, is this a real problem or not?
00:35:06
atack2010
Yeah.
00:35:21
Alexis
Yeah.
00:35:21
Jessica
Right.
00:35:24
Alexis
Uh-huh.
00:35:25
Brett
And I think, you know, the first step in not to, not to, you know, down talk anybody's feelings is maybe just chill out about the bugs

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00:35:34
Brett
in your house a little bit.
00:35:34
Jessica
good
00:35:35
Alexis
Chill dude!
00:35:36
Brett
You know, just there are things to panic about and there are things that are, you know, it's kind of an inconvenience.
00:35:36
Jessica
Right. There are bugs to panic about in your house. Don't get me wrong.
00:35:39
Alexis
Yeah.
00:35:39
Jessica
There are ones.
00:35:43
Brett
It's kind of, but like the idea of we're going to, I like your comment earlier, Jessica, that like.
00:35:43
Jessica
There's annoyance.
00:35:49
Brett
Insects and arachnids and others are all around us all the time. And sometimes it's just our awareness of it that makes us freak out about it. And it's like, imagine if you didn't know, if you didn't worth thinking about it.
00:35:58
Alexis
and
00:36:00
Brett
And so the scorched earth policy to me, a lot of the stuff is just like not that big of a deal. So, you know, if you can't chill out, then you move forward and and address it and with all the things we've talked about.
00:36:07
Jessica
Right.
00:36:12
Brett
But there is a part of you that can just be like, it's okay, this actually isn't harming anything. and
00:36:17
Alexis
Yeah. Learn or go learn a little bit about it. I think that's what like helped me with a lot of insects was when I was like forced to take an entomology class and learned a little bit more about them. And some of that fear kind of subsides when you learn, you know, hey, they don't actually bite or they do, you know, help there. Those wolf spiders might be eating some of those stink bugs in your house, you know? So ah that can be helpful as well, I think. And I mean, if you're here, you're already If you're listening to this, you you are wanting to learn, but that I know that can be really helpful in scary situations for me.
00:36:55
Alexis
Yeah, sweet.

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00:36:56
Jessica
Pressure. sure
00:36:57
Alexis
Any other lasting thoughts about your fall invaders? I feel like I need to put like a picture of an alien um like or a stink bug coming down from a UFO.
00:37:06
Jessica
no
00:37:09
Jessica
Well, army instinct bugs coming in.
00:37:09
atack2010
Is she inspired?
00:37:11
Alexis
Yeah. as As our Instagram photo, which you can go follow if you are an Instagram and you can send us messages there. If you would like at hort culture pod, if you are of an interest and you can look for said UFO stink bug thing.
00:37:27
Alexis
I don't know. I'm going to figure it out. i'mnna I'm going to, I'm going to find it. I'm sure it's out there. Dr. Larson probably has one of the, a photo like that on his phone.
00:37:33
Jessica
Oh, he probably does.
00:37:35
Alexis
If I had to guess.
00:37:36
atack2010
Has his wallpaper.
00:37:37
Alexis
as this wallpaper on his phone.
00:37:37
atack2010
Sure. Absolutely.
00:37:42
Brett
Yes.
00:37:42
Alexis
Well, cool. Well, thank you, guys. Brett, anything? Sorry.
00:37:44
Brett
No, no, that's okay.
00:37:45
Alexis
I cut you off. OK.
00:37:46
Brett
That's okay.
00:37:46
Alexis
Well, thanks for joining us. We wish you luck with your fall invaders. And maybe this has helped you chill a little bit. And if not, you maybe learned a new way to deal with them and ways to not let your vacuum stink.
00:38:00
Alexis
So thanks for being here with us today. And we hope that as we grow this podcast, you will grow with us. Have a great one.