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Speaker: Welcome to Beneath the Evergreens, where murder, mysteries, and mayhem lurk in the shadows of the Pacific Northwest. I'm Jess. And I'm Anna. From haunted forests and unsolved disappearances.
Speaker: to true crime cases buried deep in the moss and the mist. We're digging into the dark secrets hiding under the evergreens. Each episode will explore real cases, eerie encounters, and the legends that keep the Pacific Northwest up at night.
Speaker: So grab your flashlight, lock your doors, and join us Beneath the Evergreens.
Speaker: Welcome back everyone. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Jess, how are you doing on this fine morning? Glorious, one could say. Oh, would would you say or just one could say that about you? I'm just going to say one could say.
Speaker: Okay. Okay, we'll take it. I feel like the older I get, this the the relationship I have with sleep is such an interesting and unique beast. Oh my. Yeah.
Speaker: Do you ever just feel like you hit your head hits the pillow and then all of a sudden you're awake and you're like, wait, it's been, it's been six hours already. Like, um, not often once in a while. Oh, me every night. That's me every night.
Speaker: I as I'm getting older I'm like really appreciating a good like wake up early have a slow morning um freak especially like I get up pretty early for work so my like sleep in time is still relatively early yeah and so I kind of got kind of woke up this morning and I got to like watch the sunrise a little bit had a coffee and I was like this is this is perfect I love a bathrobe you gotta have a fluffy bathrobe oh my gosh yes I actually yes I took a shower I had my bathrobe I was like, this is this is what life is all about, actually.
Speaker: I was going to say, I was going ask you how your morning's going, but it sounds like it's going swimmingly. Oh, it is superb. I think I've alluded to this previously, but I'm really into like lifting and strength, and there's a really big strongman competition going on this weekend. so um It's literally on it in the background we're recording this.
Speaker: My husband is watching with headphones on. I love it. Are you going to watch also when you're done? Yes. Yeah. okay um It's taking place in Scotland, so there's already a pretty big time difference. So we're just like watching recordings.
Speaker: Yeah. So look, me and Scotland, we've got to link up at some point in my Next October, I will go with you to Aberdeen to watch the Strongman meet, and then we can go explore afterwards or before.
Speaker: I'm holding you to that because I was going to do that for my 40th birthday, but now... I'll just move it up. Perfect. It's fine. Perfect. Alrighty. Well, have you been to the pumpkin patch yet?
Speaker: No, I have not. I think we're actually going to go this evening. go Ooh, I like that. Yeah. Mine, I did go and we carved them and it's been two weeks and mine have already decomposed.
Speaker: Oh, that's sad. Isn't it? but I don't know if it's too hot or if the pumpkins just gave up the ghost or what? feel like the lifespan of a pumpkin isn't super long. Like you gotta carve it pretty close to Halloween.
Speaker: What did you carve into yours? Of course, Dracula, my man's. more Amazing. ah Yes. I, uh, sorry. My child did a really funny one. Whereas she has these like tiny little circles for eyes and then this Big ass. Oh, no, that I think that was her friend. And then she did one that was.
Speaker: Let me rewind. Tiny little circles and a big ass mouth. Like I'm talking gaping wide with just one tooth. Hilarious. Then I think my daughter did. ah i think she has a really, really tiny mouth.
Speaker: And these big old eyeballs. Oh my God. It's freaking hilarious. I loved it. They did a great job. That is amazing. Yes. Are you carving yours or no? No, we're not going to carve them.
Speaker: One of my favorite things to do actually at pumpkin patch is get like a good butternut squash and then come home, cut in half, throw like butter and brown sugar on either side and then roast it for like a long period of time.
Speaker: I think that's actually how I won my husband's affection when we first met because first I took a new pumpkin patch. I, I, my daddy used said when I was kid. Yeah. Oh, Hey, could squash like or eight acorn squash. excuse me Yeah.
Speaker: And I was like, okay, I'm going to grab this. And he's like, what do you, what are you doing? I was like, no, trust me. It's delicious. yes we like get get it i call my dad i'm like hey how do i do this and he's like i don't remember call your grandma so i'm calling my grandma and i'm like hey how do do this and she's like i but she's like it's super simple just like put throw some butter and some sugar like what don't need yes and just roast that roast that bitch yes yeah and so i did that and he was like this is the greatest thing i've ever eaten squash is delicious i think it's the most slept on food oh 100 it's so versatile too yeah it really is especially in a curry oh my gosh like it's sweet it's savory like you do good zucchini bread oh my oh my god oh my god get out of here
Speaker: Well, I have a story for you today. Are you ready for this? am so excited to hear it. It's going to be kind of a sad one. It's not a historical one. It's kind of sad. So just set the tone. All right. So today I'm going to tell you about the disappearance of Logan Schindelman.
Speaker: Oh, I don't. I don't recognize that name. Okay. I'm intrigued. Just off the top. He is still missing. Still unknown where he is. So set expectations that you're going to be frustrated when we leave this episode.
Speaker: Did I ever tell you that I actually, when I'm looking at new podcasts, I've gotten too tired of the ones where i don't where we don't find the person at the end? And I had to stop listening to them because I get so frustrated. Well, I'm here to frustrate you today.
Speaker: And you're welcome. So excited. Stoked, Jessie. Thank you. i am here for you. And this truly is a conundrum. I don't even know. like There's not even a person that I'd be like, for sure, they...
Speaker: year gonna be thinking about this for the rest of today and i'm just gonna be completely useless to everyone around me yes well it's by a place that i would like to to hike soon but anyways that's besides the point may 20th 2016 we're in tumwater washington okay tumwater i know the name that's like kind of down by like olympia it's like the city past olympia okay so you like pass the state capitals then you you're on the if you're on i-5 you can hello I don't know if everyone heard that, but my mic, I just hit my bike and it said, no, thank you. Stop talking. We talk with our hands here, actually. Too much.
Speaker: Too much. So you can. anddy to be don think
Speaker: So you're on I-5. If you're going on I-5, you get to that section when you get past the state capitol where you can take a right and kind of go up towards Capitol Mall. or Or you can continue to go straight, which kind of curves to the left. And that will take you to Tumwater. You go past the Deschutes River.
Speaker: All that. i Yes. Okay. So we're in Tumwater. Tumwater starts to be where it's, um, we get out of kind of suburbs city type thing. And we're starting to head more into farmland and it gets yeah real farmy real quick.
Speaker: Noted. Okay. So it's 3 PM and it's Friday afternoon. ah Everyone knows I five at 3 p.m. on a Friday afternoon. Sucks ass.
Speaker: And but everyone it's also that sweet spot where it's like it's not quite backed up yet. So everyone's trying to haul ass down the freeway. You know what I mean? Everyone's like, OK, it's kind of a scary place. It is a very scary place. Like you need to be on your shit.
Speaker: When out of nowhere, drivers start to witness something kind of bizarre. There's this 1996 black Chrysler Sebring. that And it's a convertible with like one of those soft tops.
Speaker: It starts to do these weird like drifting in the lane situation where people are like, are they drunk? Are they texting? What's going on here? Yeah. And then it moves from this kind of gentle drift in its own lane to start to like going diagonal, like diagonally right. Oh my God.
Speaker: Across lanes in this like slowing down diagonal situation. So it was in the far left lane and it's now in the right lane. And then it keeps going.
Speaker: Everyone being like equal parts concerned, equal parts like for the love of God, I just want to get home on a Friday. like Literally, don't make me stop. Don't make me stop. I swear to God.
Speaker: Yes. Yes. So then it crashes into the concrete center barrier. Oh my God. This part of the freeway that it impacted, there's a concrete barrier on both sides.
Speaker: Okay. So he's going, he's fully into the right. Okay. And then that's when it comes to a dead stop. The reports are no one really saw anyone in the car, except for one person thought he saw someone left the car after it made impact from the passenger side door.
Speaker: Was he like head on to the barrier? Like how did how would you like hold that thought? So naturally Washington State Patrol responds thinking that someone has probably had a heart attack in the car or something has happened where someone's going to be slumped over the wheel.
Speaker: There's some sort of medical issue. But when they pull up and peek inside, there's no one there. Literally no one is in the car. Hmm. In fact, the car is totally deserted. You can tell that no one's been in there for a while because the food bags that were on the floor were quite old. But they did find a wallet and a cell phone.
Speaker: But they um ah essentially just towed the car immediately without any further investigation. What? what which that isn't That really pisses me off, too.
Speaker: How... how How do they think it got there? Like, did they think a ghost drove it? Like, i I don't understand why there's not more concern over the person that was clearly driving this car into the barrier.
Speaker: That is my question as well. And something with all of the reports I looked at, no one seems worried about. What? i don't understand that. If I...
Speaker: If i get calls, and I'm a and a state patrol officer, that a car has drifted diagonally and hit a center concrete stand, I show up there and there's there's no evidence that anyone was driving that car.
Speaker: I'm looking for the person who was towing this to say, hey, you need to make sure like you're getting a fine because you could have killed someone. like People are going hauling ass on the freeway. Yeah.
Speaker: Or I'm like... their Ghost can't drive. Someone has to be responsible. did Did they hit their head when they made impact and had a concussion and got out and started wandering away? Like, I'm trying to figure out who this car belongs to.
Speaker: Yeah. And like, figure but nope, that didn't happen. ah I feel like this is a bad start. In my brain, I'm like, nothing good is coming after this. like If you if you we're not concerned about step one, step 10 is out the window. Yeah. yeah so Inside the car, officers find a wallet.
Speaker: Okay. And a driver's license, a debit card, a cell phone, and even cash sitting neatly inside a food bag on the passenger's floorboard. at Just all right there.
Speaker: Even more concerning. Someone was clearly there at some point. Exactly. And if you thought someone stole this car and this was their way of leaving it, that kind of blows it right out, right? Like his wallet is still there. The cell phone's still there. The month cash is still there.
Speaker: Neatly packed away for someone to find, essentially. Yep. Turns out that this convertible belonged to a 19-year-old named Logan Schiedelman. But Logan, Logan was nowhere to be found.
Speaker: And at this point, his family had no idea where he was and were getting ready to submit a missing persons report. Well, it's kind of, I'm trying to piece up timelines. On some timelines, it states that he was reported missing before this, but because he's 19 years old,
Speaker: police didn't take it seriously and like 19 year olds are allowed to run away they're allowed it to be missing and that's if you don't if you can't point to foul play like we're not going to report them as missing on other timelines i've seen that this car was found and then three days later that is when logan was reported as missing either way this is problematic yeah yeah So anyways, just let's hear about people reporting their loved one missing and police not taking it seriously.
Speaker: The problem solving part of my brain is like, okay, clearly there's some gap here that we need to address. And like definitely there are cases where people report missing when maybe they they do just not want to be found. But do we don't really have the statistics. At least I haven't heard the statistics on Facebook.
Speaker: How often that happens. And why don't we just have like two different categories, right? Like, Hey, this seems suspicious. They might turn back up, but we'll still take the report in case like, you know, a month from now they don't, um, or whatever yeah time period, you know?
Speaker: My question is why can't we just report them missing? Yeah, exactly. Like what is the, even if there wasn't these two different categories, what is it actually like your job is to listen to me as a police officer. And if I'm saying someone's missing, i feel like take me fucking seriously.
Speaker: Yeah, because it feels like we always hear in ah like so many cases that, oh, yeah, police didn't or didn't take it seriously until a body was found. And then it's like, oh shit. You know, like, let's stop with the oh, shit and be a little bit more proactive. Yeah. It's like the same thing with stalking. I feel like when someone's getting stalked and they go to the police and be like, hey, like this is escalating. I'm feeling unsafe.
Speaker: And there's like there's really nothing we can do. It's like, well, at least write it down. So there's some sort of track record of like, I, for years now, I've been saying something or for months, I've been saying this person is escalating.
Speaker: Yeah. Like, why should someone have to die for that to be when we take it seriously? There should be like, hey, this person has reported this person eight times. Let's actually take this seriously and go look into it. But yeah. What makes this case worse for me, I was going to leave there.
Speaker: race out of it but logan is also he has some sort of middle eastern roots and then black and then he's white but he he presents as black okay and part of me is like hmm hmm does that have something to do with this as well but again i can't point fingers because i wasn't there but it is an interesting data point Yeah.
Speaker: So it was just like that. This mystery is born one that would baffle seasoned investigators and haunt a fan, haunt the family forever. I mean, could you imagine this person is missing and all of a sudden you find out that their car just drifted into center? Yeah. Yeah. It would just be awful.
Speaker: So to begin to understand what happened on Friday in May, we have to look at who Logan actually was. He was raised in Tumwater by his grandmother, Jenny Schiedelman.
Speaker: Logan was the kind of kid where people just naturally gravitated towards him. He was kind of bubbly. And I feel like that's always the case. Yeah. He was charming, friendly, bright. Everyone said he he kind of lit up the room. He was the one that kind of always got the jokes going, all that other kind of stuff.
Speaker: He was on the varsity football team as a defensive back, and he was very good. He kind of held the team down, and their mascot were the Thunderbirds.
Speaker: I don't know why I needed to say that, but I freaking love that. And his number, his favorite number was 29, so that was the number that was on his ah jersey. Everyone thought he had a really bright future, um specifically in in athletics. They thought he was going to get a scholarship.
Speaker: But unfortunately, something happened towards the end of his high school career that really kind of threw things for a loop. Apparently, he went to a big bonfire out in the country. And he had a very close group of friends, right? So also being on the football team, I feel like you make...
Speaker: stronger connections and so he goes but all all of his friends according to jenny were were white they go to this bonfire together and apparently there's this girl that starts calling logan very disrespectful names very racist names and is and he's looking at his friends to be like hey jump in yeah and his friends just sit there and let it happen and kind of are like laughing along with this Which the level of betrayal, i would feel, is wild. Absolutely. Particularly because Jenny had said Logan was kind of struggling with his background. So Jenny herself is like the white side of his family. And it sounds like...
Speaker: Jenny and Logan's mother, who who was kind of the black side of the family, they didn't speak ever. And he rarely saw his mom. So I think there was this identity thing happening in the background where it's like, I'm not fully white, but like everyone around me is white. And how do I identify with this other part of myself? And he he was really struggling with that. And then he goes to this bonfire and he's like, oh, wow, these people don't actually care about me at all.
Speaker: Yeah. And apparently this night hits like heart so hard that he just stopped talking to all of his friends. Oh my God. And so, so something severe must've happened at, yeah. To when you're that age to just quit talking to your friends, it's kind of crazy. For sure. And it got to the point where he was actually supposed to go to um the University of Washington in Seattle with like a large group of his friends, but he changed his plans at the last minute and he enrolled at the Washington State University over five hours away in Pullman.
Speaker: So far from home. He did that specifically because he didn't know anyone that was going there. Okay. So he's in this place of kind of self-isolation. i think he's had a big revelation of like, who can I trust and who actually will...
Speaker: I think we all kind of go through that at some points, but I think this in particular might've been a little hard because it's got that race component, which I will never rather than understand. And that would just, it would break my heart too. If someone, I feel like it's really hard going to a big school like that in like the area that you're from, because it's I it's really hard to meet people. And so you're kind of naturally going to stay with the group that you already know.
Speaker: Yeah. Um, but Yeah, I mean, it feels like Seattle would have been a really cool place for him to like experience a lot of new things. Whereas I feel like Pullman, it's I imagine it's more similar to like Tumwater.
Speaker: Yes. um Yeah. Maybe not in like the way that he would have thrived in, you know? Yes, it is a very isolated campus. Like that it's pretty much Cowfields and then there's Pullman and then there's more Cowfields.
Speaker: And there's Idaho. Yeah. Yeah. So when he got to university at WSU, also WSU is known to be a party school. I don't know if I'm the only one that's heard that, but it's.
Speaker: Oh, my God. no Yeah. I feel like everyone. Everyone. Yeah, everyone does. So when he got there, he did make some friends because he has this charming personality. But he seemed to prioritize that party lifestyle over his academic relationship.
Speaker: And he, his first semester, he got put on academic probation. Second semester, nothing was resolved. So he ended up being asked to leave the school. And so he came back home to Tumwater to live with his grandmother again.
Speaker: And he starts picking up local shifts at fast food restaurants, at a laundry service for a hospital. So they send their sheets in. He's doing that and just trying to catch his breath and figure out, okay, what do I want to do?
Speaker: yes I think also, i just want to point out here, this is a very smart individual and also he's very athletically inclined. And I feel like, i feel like a lot was missed and I'm not pointing the finger at his family. I'm just saying, i think they, a lot was going on emotionally. And I, and I think that gets buried in this story a lot because he just reconnected with his mom's sister.
Speaker: Okay. He's asking a lot of questions about what it's like to be black, essentially, from my understanding. And he's, he's trying to reconnect with that side of his family. and I don't think Jenny is super ah thrilled about that.
Speaker: Yeah. And I allegedly, this is what I'm getting from like interviews that I've, I've listened to. And i think he's in this headspace. I think he might be a little depressed.
Speaker: Again, this is alleged. This is just my point of view from like listening to where he was a little depressed. He's also getting into drinking and smoking marijuana a little bit, maybe too much. He also doesn't have his friend group.
Speaker: That's very good. And then he also, um, doesn't know what's coming next in his life. So he's in this, he could have probably used some therapy. He probably could have used a little more support to be like, Hey, let's sit down and like let's talk about your future and and what's going on.
Speaker: Yeah. So anyways, he's in this mental state and two days before the car is found, it's Wednesday morning, May 18th, and Logan walks into the kitchen to talk to his mother, Ginny, his grandmother, Ginny.
Speaker: m He says, hey, i might be gone for the weekend. I think I'm going to go out of town. i had an epiphany and I'm going to leave.
Speaker: That scares me. Yeah. Instead of her saying, Let's talk about this. She's running a little late for work. She's like, okay, let's talk about this when I get home and she leaves. That's the last time she sees Logan.
Speaker: Oh no. Oh no. Yeah. ish So no one really knows what happens from here. Essentially he, when she gets, when Jenny gets home from work, Logan's car is gone and he is also gone.
Speaker: She usually gets text messages or some sort of phone call from him just to like check in, let her let her know that he's okay. But Thursday passes. It's in silence. So he leaves Wednesday, probably midday at some time.
Speaker: It's now Thursday's gone through. No, both days, no contact. Friday rolls in and Logan still hasn't called and he hasn't come home. She's been reaching out to him too. And he's non-responsive.
Speaker: oh Yes. So she starts, she has location share on him. So she opens the app and she's like tracking him and she sees that the car is close to where his biological mom lives. So she's thinking, okay, maybe he went to go see her. Maybe I don't need to worry about it too much. Is she close is it close by?
Speaker: It's in Olympia, like down downtown Olympia. So she's like, okay, he's close. It's fine. When investigators later pull his cell phone records, the picture kind of gets even weirder. His phone isn't sitting somewhere in a drawer. It's actually crossing, like on a cross-state journey. So it goes all the way down Interstate 5 to Vancouver and then is coming back up and then back to Thurston County.
Speaker: So back into the Olympia Tumwater area. So... It's really weird. So she is saying that when she, Jenny is saying when she looked at his, where his phone was on Friday, it was in Olympia. Investigators are saying, nah, it's not quite true because during this timeframe where he was gone, the phone was in Thurston County, went all the way down to Vancouver and then back up to Thurston County.
Speaker: Was it in a reasonable amount of time? Like, could it, was it like pinging off towers along the way or did it just like all of a sudden he's in Vancouver and then he's back up in Thurston County? From what I was able to find, it's pinging all the way down. So they were able to track his actual process down and all the way up.
Speaker: And so on the way back up though, it drives around Thurston County. And then at 3 PM is when the car crashes into the center crashes on the freeway into the cement he northbound on I-5 or southbound? No, now he's going southbound.
Speaker: So it came all the way back up, went into Olympia and then came back down the freeway. And that is when the last ping of the cell phone and where the cell phone stays is when the car crashes. Weird.
Speaker: Yes. And so
Speaker: Jenny also said that on Saturday morning, which would be After the crash. Friday was a crash. She said on Saturday, she pulled up the records and was trying to find him.
Speaker: She's saying that she's driving around Olympia. okay To find the car, which I'm kind of confused. I'm like, wait, how did you, then how did you, how did you have a pinpoint? But he's like, the car is already crashed.
Speaker: Yeah. Anyways, unless, unless the phone is in the car at at the, like the lot. Yeah. Yeah. That would make sense. Okay. So ah she is essentially she, she is trying to look for him, but I think she's also trying to give space and she's also thinking that, Oh, he's probably with like his other family. Like I won't worry about it too much, but she asks Logan's sister to text his mom and say, Hey, have you seen Logan? And if you have, can you tell him to reach out to to grandma?
Speaker: The mom is like, what are you talking about? Logan hasn't been here. i haven't seen him in weeks. Oh my God. So again, just goes to show, have good relationships with with your in-laws, even if they're your ex-in-laws. Because if something like this has happened, I'm calling you and saying, hey, have you seen my child or have you seen this person? But yeah.
Speaker: Anyways, so-
Speaker: I don't know. I just feel like there's a lot that could have been done differently here. So anyways, um the phone is found. And so now investigators like, why would he drive all the way to Vancouver? That doesn't really make sense. yeah Turns out he was talking to a girl on um a dating app that lived in Portland, which Vancouver, Portland, yeah sister cities pretty much.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. So they're thinking, oh, he must've went down there to visit this girl. So they get in contact with this girl and this girl's like, um, no, he was talking about that. There was some epiphany that, so again, this word epiphany is coming up.
Speaker: He was talking about this epiphany that he had and we were going to make plans to meet up, but we never actually did. So again, why did he go to Vancouver then? If he's not even like, that's the only reason why he would go down there. And so everyone's just a little confused. Yeah.
Speaker: So back to the car crash. If you think about it, this is what the eyewitnesses saw because the story of how the car ended up on empty on the side of the highway gets ah murky real quick.
Speaker: A truck driver calls 911. He says that he, while the car is in the left-hand lane, it's in the median. He sees a white man step out of the car.
Speaker: And that is when the car starts to drift over. and then go into the center aisle. So the first, this doesn't make any sense to me either. So it's in the left-hand lane.
Speaker: This truck driver sees a man get out and then the car starts to drift. The car then goes across all the lanes and then hits the concrete barrier on the other side of the freeway. Where the hell's the guy then? the The guy jumps the barrier and then goes into the woods.
Speaker: On the other side. Yes. So there, you know how that section of the freeway has like areas kind of on both sides of it. Kind of. Yeah. He jumps into the woods essentially. And then kind of takes off.
Speaker: I mean, this is more plausible than like a ghost and him yes like running out. But like, yeah, this, thats I mean, I guess he's athletic. If anyone could do it, maybe it's ah you're young. Here's the key though.
Speaker: It's a white man that gets out of the car. And they're like, well, he, they're like, well, Logan's mixed. Maybe he just misunderstood. No, they showed the detective showed the picture of Logan to the truck driver and they said, is this the guy you said you saw? he said, no, that's not even close to the guy that I saw.
Speaker: So it's like a a true, like a different person got out of Logan's car and ran into the tree. What the heck? And it doesn't stop there because 10 hours after the crash at 105 in the morning, another caller reports seeing something really unsettling. An unidentified white man walking completely without pants along the shoulder of I-5 right next to the area where the guy that jumped out of Logan's car and went into the woods.
Speaker: Like that's the same area that this guy is walking. What? ah They find this guy? Canine search teams and ground... Crews kind of swarm this forest and roadways, and they tear apart everything. They can't find the man who's walking down the road with no pants. They also don't find any clothes, no footprints, no footprints and no traces of Logan.
Speaker: What the heck? What the heck? Yes. Adding to the fire, the initial investigation hit some frustrating roadblocks because that convertible that was impounded, okay It was in the lot for three full days being touched by who knows what before technicians start to process it.
Speaker: So it's in like an impound lot.
Speaker: And by this time there's dust, grime, like people have been in the car to tow it. It's been wiped like This is ridiculous.
Speaker: how is How is this just being treated like a normal abandoned vehicle? If everyone saw it slowly roll across I-5, crash, there's clearly something suspicious going on.
Speaker: Yes. So... it's Yes. And the car story does piss me off. Actually. yeah It's actually really infuriating. So the car's textured interior surface, they have all been wiped away of usable fingerprints at this point. So there's not even fingerprints that we can try to, to gather and any fingerprints that we do get, like who you can't point to it. Cause it's just been sitting in this lot for whatever. Also his phone and all this other kind of stuff. It's been in the car the whole time.
Speaker: Yeah. you kidding me? You kidding me? Yeah. So According to other reporting, detectives did everything else by the book. So they grilled friends, acquaintances, and even as her even his sister's boyfriend at the time. The boyfriend fully cooperated and passed a polygraph test with flying colors and was completely cleared. So why is the sister's boyfriend being talked about? Because apparently the sister's boyfriend moved into Jenny's house with his children.
Speaker: This boyfriend has a long, lengthy list of domestic violence charges. And is rather aggressive. Logan hated this guy, which if my sister was dating someone that was like a a DV, had a DV background, i ah I too would hate them. And also if you're moving into my grandma's house with your children, I'm also going to have a problem with that. And so there was a lot of animosity between those two. And so they were like, maybe they got in a fight and something happened. And this is the guy that was on the side of the road, but he was cleared. Yeah.
Speaker: So the question remains, who the hell was driving Logan's car? Was it Logan? Was it somebody else? And where is Logan? Yeah. So to figure out where Logan's head was at, investigators investigators had to dig into the heavier parts of his world. So again, that that issue that happened with his friends it really devastated him. And investigators are connecting the dots that maybe the reason why he didn't do so well in in university is because he's still kind of having to deal with these ramifications.
Speaker: um And again, it comes back to this girlfriend that was living in Portland and they they interviewed her. And she said, the last thing he kind of said to me was he had an epiphany. They look at the the records of the conversations that they were having on the phone.
Speaker: And the last thing he said to her was, I hope to survive this week. end quote but there was no context to that like no one knows what he was talking about see I sometimes I feel like oh I'll say things like that after a really bad work week or something um and I hope no one takes it in a weird context something were to happen to me but like that's cost that's some scary stuff to say for yeah it's like kind of like that catch
Speaker: catch 22 or maybe that's not the term, but like, yeah, at the time I'm not going to take that seriously. But then when you go missing, I'm like, fuck, I should have pressed harder on that. Like, yeah, yeah. I should have tried to ask what's going on.
Speaker: So fast forward to May, 2026. It's 10 full years since Logan walked out of the kitchen and vanished into thin air. ah Just recently, family, community members and law enforcement gathered in tht Thurston County for an anniversary vigil.
Speaker: But there's nothing. there's a $15,000 reward still sitting on the table for anyone that has information to to find this man, his great aunt, Mary where,
Speaker: ah Put it heartbreakingly during the gathering that the family remains trapped in ambiguous loss. It's cruel, perpetual grief, a wound that will never quite heal because there's no body, no finality, no answers, just a giant echoing question mark of what happened to Logan.
Speaker: So again, Logan was last seen in May 2016. He is five foot 11 inches tall, weighing about 160 pounds. He has very striking black hair and brown eyes, and he was just 19 when he disappeared.
Speaker: If you have any information about Logan, no matter how small, no matter how insignificant you might think it is, please don't keep it to yourself. Call Thurston County Sheriff's Office at 360-786-5500 or reach out anonymously to Stoppers at 1-800-577-8477. So if there's anything know, let's to bring the family some peace. That is the story of Logan. Absolutely.
Speaker: five seven seven eight four seven seven so if there's anything you know let's try to bring the family some peace that is the story of logan Infuriating.
Speaker: Absolutely infuriating. Yeah. No, I'm going to be thinking about this all day. done That's so sad and it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. It doesn't at all. I want to know who this man with no pants was and why are you walking down the road like that?
Speaker: Absolutely. Yeah. All right. ah Well, that's it for today's dive into the dark corners of the Pacific Northwest. If you love the stories or shivered a little, be sure to subscribe and follow so you don't miss what's looking beneath the evergreens next time. Thanks for joining us on Beneath the Evergreens.
Speaker: We appreciate you diving into the mysteries with us. Until next time, keep your eyes open. And your doors locked.
