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Speaker: Welcome to Beneath the Evergreens, where murder, mysteries, and mayhem lurk in the shadows of the Pacific Northwest. I'm Jess. And I'm Anna. From haunted forests and unsolved disappearances, to true crime cases buried deep in the moss and the mist.
Speaker: We're digging into the dark secrets hiding under the evergreens. Each episode will explore real cases, eerie encounters, and the legends that keep the Pacific Northwest up at night.
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Speaker: welcome welcome hello hello how are we doing fantastic it is a blustery day here in the washington states it is state dark rainy feels like winter almost don't know how are you i am getting over a cold as you guys can probably hear sorry in advance if i start coughing during this episode you guys i will cut it out good good unfortunately whenever i laugh cry or feel anything other than like no emotion i um start to cough little i hate it when uh yeah the cough is the worst especially when it lingers forever and you're not really ah sure when it's gonna pop out oh my gosh it's the worst
Speaker: Well, is this is like day four of this cold. And I wasn't coughing at the beginning, but I felt like hell. And so I went to work yesterday. and People were like, oh, oh like, you look like you're feeling. Like, how are you feeling? I'm like, not great. And then today I'm coughing now. And now everyone's like, oh, my God, why are you here? speak here not Guys, no, I feel better. I promise I feel better.
Speaker: Actually, I'm feeling fantastic. You should have seen seen me the other day. i like it Yes. Well, i heard you have something special to discuss. um Yes, I do, actually. So for those of our loyal listeners that have heard Jessie make fun of my Pepsi habits in the past.
Speaker: It's disgusting. It's not disgusting. Whoa, he's... I gotta stop now. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're taking the emotions too high. So... co of blog I have a new obsession.
Speaker: okay zero sugar i am um okay obsessed obsessed so obsessed that what one i went to the grocery store last weekend and bought 12 pack can we talk about how expensive so no and these days that that is genuinely i don't understand it it's crazy 12 for a 12 pack of are you kidding me dollar it's crazy So I just got lost my mind, came home and I hate doing this.
Speaker: My, went on Amazon and okay it was $6 for a 12 pack. So you best believe I ordered two packs. get w Zero sugar. And only like, I hate supporting big, big, big businesses like that. Yeah. but my I hear my aunt in the back of my head saying, well, technically it's a local business.
Speaker: And that's how I drink it. There you go. Exactly. is it root beer or is cream soda? It's root beer. It is root beer. Root beer. Okay. i couldn't the Yeah, the can is like a little light. There is something about root beer.
Speaker: i will go through phases where it's like, i won't drink it forever. And then when I drink it, I'm like, why am I not? Why am I not drinking this? Same with ginger ale. Oh, I love ginger ale.
Speaker: Oh my God. but you forget about it. It's not like the go-to until it's like, oh, they have ginger ale. Let me taste this And you're like, it's like you met Jesus. 100%. I feel like yeah I associate ginger ale too much with like a stomach ache or like feeling sick. Yes. But God, it's good.
Speaker: It is so delicious. And root beer. Well, I'm happy that you have a new, I'm happy that you decided to get rid of the Pepsi. Well, still the Pepsi. sure. Because at Costco, it's cheap.
Speaker: I can get a 24-pack of Diet Pepsi for like $12, $15. twelve fifteen bucks That's not bad. It's not bad at all. And that's cheaper. It's cheaper than the Coke Zero. And we're all about balling on a budget over here. I always want to be the drink house where I have all of these different drinks, but we just go through it too damn fast. So we end up just being like the water house.
Speaker: ah and It's very upsetting. like go over to your house, you have all these beverages. It's so lovely. Yes, but they only last like for a very short amount of time. ah ah Because, yeah, I love to drink my calories.
Speaker: that's I've been trying to do the zero sugar, like fill myself up with chemicals as opposed to calories. um And then the fizz keeps me kind of full. which I like it.
Speaker: i don't know if you can hear this, but there's fireworks there. I'm confused. Today is November 6th.
Speaker: Okay, well, hey, teach their own. I wonder if the Seahawks are something think crazy one. I don't think they wouldn't be playing today. They played on Monday. And I'm so sorry to say this, but they haven't been doing very well.
Speaker: They have not. I haven't been following them too much. Yeah. Don't kill me. I'm not really a Seahawks fan. All right. Well, are you ready for my story? Oh, I'm so ready. Let's do it. It's going to end with like a philosophical note because I just find this case pretty interesting. ah Full disclosure, it is a murder case and I am sorry in advance.
Speaker: I'm interested in the philosophy piece of this. I think you're going to enjoy it. So in the spring of 1990, the city of Spokane, Washington was gripped by a quiet mounting terror along the banks of the cold, swift Spokane River River.
Speaker: whila Sorry, sorry. Spokane-a-weaver? Spokane-weaver.
Speaker: The bodies of vulnerable women began to surface one by one. For over two decades, investigators hunted a ghost. They thought it was the work of one mysterious creature.
Speaker: not mysterious, one notorious serial killer, Robert Lee Yates. But in truth, there were actually two serial killers going on at the same time.
Speaker: So I've heard of Robert Lee Yates before, but now I'm so'm so intrigued. Oh my gosh. Yes. So this is the story of Douglas Perry, a man obsessed with weapons and violence who later walked out of a medical clinic in Thailand as Donna Perry,
Speaker: Oh, interesting. A convicted serial killer who claimed her transition was an extreme attempt to cage the monster within.
Speaker: Yes. So I am in the wrong tab. So let me get to the right tab. Okay, so as previously previously stated, during the late 1990s, Robert Lee Yates Jr. operated as one of the most prolific serial killers in Washington state history.
Speaker: He murdered at least 16 people while hiding behind a terrible double life as a married father, neighbor, and former U.S. Army helicopter pilot. I'm sorry, quick tidbit here.
Speaker: Yeah. I will never understand how someone can have such different sides of themselves. Like this, yeah like you're murdering people. Then you immediately go home and you're love. Like you love your wife, your kids and like everything is normal.
Speaker: that You have to be able. yeah You have to be able to compartmentalize like nobody's business. Like, how does it, I'm just, I think of like so trying to equate that tos like my own life, right? Like, I wish I would take work stress home with me. Like the level of skill that these people have in car couldn' like compartmentalizing and just leaving something in the other side yeah is insane. insane.
Speaker: so insane Yeah, it's real gross. i think I might do Robert Gates, like a story on him because also the, he, he just like didn't give a fuck either. it felt like he was just, yeah, he's a gross, gross.
Speaker: Well, because of Yates, a large portion of his spree was targeted at street-level sex workers along the East Spokane Sprague Avenue, which is the exact same area where Douglas, now Donna, operated for years earlier.
Speaker: So for the purpose of this of this story, I'm pretty much just going to stick with Perry as their name. Not that it fucking matters because they're asshole, but just because Douglas and Donna, it gets a little crazy.
Speaker: um But anyways, investigators spent over two decades two decades, mistakenly convicted Yates as the responsible person for some 1990 murders, or for the 1990 murders of Yolanda Sapp, Mickey Lowe, and Kathleen Brisboe.
Speaker: It wasn't until DNA profiling came about and linked biological evidence directly to Perry in 2012 that law enforcement realized a completely different predator had been slipping through the cracks this entire time.
Speaker: Which, what a fascinating way that you being a serial killer was covered up because you have the same tendencies as another serial killer in the exact same area at the exact same time. Honestly, so terrifying for the city of Spokane.
Speaker: Literally. Like Spokane's like, it's a big city, but it's not that big. that's It's not that big. And to have, yeah. And to have two, like o I don't like it. Well, okay. So Perry was born in 1952 and this person or their life was steeped in a fixation on weapons and violence. And again, he had this weird fix, not weird. I don't want to say weird, but the transition that they went through they They did it because they wanted to cage this monster inside of themselves, as I alluded to earlier. And they felt the only way they could do that is to make themselves into what they hate so much.
Speaker: Which speaks to another level of diabolicalness. Whoa.
Speaker: Whoa. Yes, yes. i don't know how to take that, but it is it is something. So how I got I have so many questions. Sorry, I'm just gonna keep them with myself.
Speaker: No, please ask because it's a wild. How does one come to that conclusion? I I don't know. I guess like yeah you are what you hate. And so he decided to become what he is like. ah That is a sentence that I... This is part of the philosophical discussion I want to have later because it is very interesting that you hate women so much that you murder them in horrific ways.
Speaker: But then to fix the problem, you become a woman. It just... It doesn't make sense to me. Like, is the thought that you're going to have empathy for those women now? Like...
Speaker: I don't think someone that can kill multiple people is capable of empathy in any regard. Yes, I completely agree. So then, like, what what is the goal of this, then?
Speaker: I, oh, well, I think part of the goal is that they're trying to get away with murder, but we'll get, we'll get to that point. So essentially Perry grew up with showing some signs of deep seated emotional volatility. According to statements later brought forward by his defense attorney, Perry allegedly was a very, had a very troubled childhood marked by intense internal turmoil, paranoia and distress and Doesn't go really into much detail, but that is apparently the characteristics of his childhood, which I emphasize with. um By adulthood, Perry was pretty eccentric. He was also extremely dangerous.
Speaker: He had a very lengthy criminal record, stretching back for decades, littered with charges of reckless endangerment, assault, um but things escalated pretty substantially in the late nineteen eighty s In 1988, federal agents raised Perry's property or raided Perry's property because he was caught with an active pipe bomb.
Speaker: Oh my God. Yeah, just casually. yeah He was on probation. They found a pipe bomb that was like live. And when they raided Perry's property, they found a domestic armory is how would describe it.
Speaker: Among the item seized was, ah again, that functional pipe bomb. And then tucked away in the house was 49 firearms, including small caliber handguns and rifles. And anywhere reports say 20,000 to nearly 50,000 rounds of ammunition.
Speaker: Holy shit, dude. Yes, yes. And then there was the abuse of creatures, completely defenseless against his wrath. oh So long before he was killing people by the river, ah court documents and pre-sentence reports noted a chilling disregard for life closer to home. Perry had documented history of severe animal cruelty, including a violent incident where he got very mad at his neighbor and the in the neighbor's dog because the dog was barking. So he literally stepped on his front porch, pointed his gun at a dog and shot the dog in front of the neighbor.
Speaker: And then just went back inside.
Speaker: Investigators and psychologists would later point to the causal sadistic cruelty towards animals as an early flashing neon warning sign that there might be something fucking wrong. Don't make me laugh.
Speaker: Especially because he was extremely devoid of empathy and remorse. So when he did go to court for shooting this dog just in cold blood, he was kind of like, it happened, which is a wild statement.
Speaker: Look, I'm going be real honest. I have a neighbor whose dog and I are having some interesting conversations. There's no way I would do anything to hurt that fucking thing.
Speaker: Like, this is crazy to me.
Speaker: I always come back to, like, how were there this many warning signs and nothing was done? Like... ah hu I don't know. and i i've I fear when we talk about like reforming our um justice system, I feel like this is a key piece that we're not talking about. And how do we reform people? Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. Yes. And like, how do yeah, we have to have some sort of reporting system too, where it's like, as a child, this person is showing so like signs of abuse towards animals. I feel like that's a common thing, theme among all of these serial killers or people who hurt people is when they were kids, yeah they were trying to kill animals. And like, we got to put them on a list.
Speaker: And like, why are we cracking down? ah it feels like we're always cracking down on the wrong thing. Like, yeah, literally a kid can get caught with like a butt of weed and their life is over, but a kid can kill a cat and it's like, well, you know, boys will be boys. Yeah. It's like crazy.
Speaker: Crazy. All right, well, by 1990, Perry was deeply embedded into the shadows of Spokane's East Sprague Avenue, which is exactly the area that Yates was working in at the same time. And by working, i mean and killing people.
Speaker: Let's be realistic. This stretch was known as Skid Row, and this is where street-level sex workers try to survive just on the margins of society. What was really weird about Perry is that they went out of their way to only be friends with sex workers.
Speaker: Like he was walking down the street and he would give them money without sexual acts, sometimes with sexual acts. He would like go out of his way to like ingratiate himself with these women. And he became like a trusted part of this community so much so that he actually started dating and living with one of the sex workers in the area.
Speaker: Her name was Clarion Galloway and they had a very interesting relationship, but apparently it was like one of love-ish.
Speaker: But another side effect of this relationship is that it gave him direct access to and familiarity with the local community of women that were making their living on the street.
Speaker: Yes. question often have with this is like, are we noticing this, are we saying this behavior is concerning because we know what the future holds or would it actually be concerning in the moment? You know, like killing animals, 100% concerning no matter the context. Like,
Speaker: being friends with sex workers, empathizing with them, like, living with it, like, I feel like that in itself is not a concerning thing. Like, given the context, we're looking at it like, what the hell, man?
Speaker: Yeah, I think that, I think you have the nail on the head. If I I would like to think that if I heard somebody was doing this, like empathizing, living with a sex worker was like understanding of of their life. I would like to say like, i wouldn't be skeezed out by it or like weirded out by it. But it seems like he was intentionally doing this to prey upon people who potentially like couldn't say no or couldn't advocate for themselves.
Speaker: Because he i mean he has a history of like domestic violence, putting people in danger, fighting people, beating people up, and specifically women. yeah So to put him in this community of people who aren't taken seriously to begin with, that is just, I think it's like a ah red flag to me.
Speaker: For sure, for sure. So over a four-month window in 1990, three of those women that he built in his community... were brutally murdered.
Speaker: The first victim was Yolanda ASAP. She was just 26 years old. She was a mother to a young daughter named Natasha, who was so little when her mother was taken that she grew up with almost no personal memories of her.
Speaker: Unfortunately, yeah. Unfortunately, Yolanda was in this... particular trade because she had lost her job and she didn't have any other means of support she didn't have family in the area so she kind of just fell into this unfortunately um and then on the morning of february 22nd 1990 yolanda's body was found on the north bank of spokane spokane river which was also the same dumping rounds as dumping grounds as yetes ga just She had been shot three times in the back with a small caliber weapon, a.22 caliber gun, and left naked except for her jewelry, and her clothes had vanished without a trace.
Speaker: ah Next to her lay a strange chilling marker, a blanket with a flower with flower prints all over it. And what's weird about this is like, so she was completely disrobed except for her jewels,
Speaker: Next to her was this flower print blanket that was laid out perfectly, but she was like posed in a very grotesque manner.
Speaker: So like a very, like a sign that like she clearly like didn't mean anything to this person. Yeah. Then Nikki I. Lowe, she was 34 years old, and this happened just a couple weeks later on March 25, 1990. Her body was found dumped underneath the Green Street Bridge near the icy waters of the river. Like Yolanda, Nikki has been targeted while working the streets and shot to death and left exposed.
Speaker: Unfortunately, not a lot is known about Nikki. um It's one of those... victims that doesn't, like all she was really known for is that she, she worked the streets and there was not much else about her, which is really sad because I'm sure she was a wonderful person that just happened to find herself in a very unfortunate predicament.
Speaker: Then is Kathleen A. Brisbane, a Brisbane boy. ah She was a badass. She was also 38 years old. She, in this, in this time, obviously there's two serial killers that are clearly working. There's Yeats and then there's Perry.
Speaker: When the the sex workers of this area all knew that like something weird was going on, but they they had to make money. And so when people asked Kathleen, like, hey, what are you going to do if someone attacks you? She's like, I'm to fight for my life. I'm going to make sure that mother effer doesn't get me. And if he does get me, there will be my skin and everything will be all over him. Like I'm going to fight my way to the death.
Speaker: Unfortunately... she did become the third victim and Kathleen's body was found on March 15th, 1990 and autopsy and forensic forensic evidence showed that she hadn't just been shot the three times like the other two women. Uh, she had also, um, been severely beaten before being discarded in the water, but there a lot of her, so a lot of the, the, the,
Speaker: injuries to her body were defensive wounds. Like she was, she was giving as good as she got back. She had like skin under her fingernails. And this is actually the DNA that ended up catching Perry.
Speaker: So she did exactly what she said she was going to do. So I guess there's some silver lining. Like, unfortunately this monster took a beautiful person, but at least she got her, like she got him too. 100%.
Speaker: hundred percent Yeah. Yeah. What's weird about these three women, or not weird, but what police found interesting about these three women is that they all knew each other and were very close and worked actually the streets at the same time.
Speaker: Oh, interesting. All three were targeted and then hunted down and left naked and exposed, like posed in an interesting way on the riverbank. And for decades, police knew it was the work of one single predator, but they thought it was Yates for the longest time until about 20 years later where they started to say, well, Yates had a different way of killing. that He didn't shoot people per se or like pose them like that. And so questions started to be raised way later that maybe this wasn't Yates. It could have been somebody else.
Speaker: But as the 1990s rolled on, Perry's life shifted dramatically. Perry spent time in jail in the 90s after being pulled over in Oregon's red light district carrying a gun and a knife. What's eerie about that is how many other people did he kill?
Speaker: Yeah. That we just don't know about. Oh my god. During that prison stint, Perry allegedly made a chilling admission to his cellmate boasting about killing nine sex workers, though authorities couldn't yet piece together the evidence. So again, nine sex workers is who he's saying. He was only charged for three.
Speaker: Then in 2000, Perry traveled to Thailand and underwent gender affirming surgery, legally and physically transitioning to Donna Perry. In 2011, Perry was arrested again on federal weapons charges. So he had weapons. He was on probation. He's also a felon. He's not supposed to have them. yeah Yeah. 2011 is when dna started to be collected no matter what charge you were being booked for. And so his DNA was entered into the national database and matched to the 1990 crime scenes.
Speaker: Oh, Yes. And then in 2000, so he was arrested on these three murder charges. And in 2017, trial in the Spokane County Superior Court became one of the most bizarre legal spectacles in Washington state history.
Speaker: The core of his her defense strategy hinged entirely on Perry's transition. The defense attorney argued a radical separation. So Douglas Perry...
Speaker: he him as a male, was the one that frequented East Sprague Avenue and ah and was into sex workers and committed this crime committed this crime. But Donna Perry, who underwent the surgery in 2000, was a completely dis different person who bore no criminal culpability for what Doug had done decades prior.
Speaker: perry herself leaned a yes yes what yes are you easy yes Perry herself leaned into this logic, telling detectives that her gender-affirming surgery acted as a medical firewall that permanently purged male violence from her body, stating coldly, quote, I don't know if Doug did something or not.
Speaker: It was 20 years ago, and I have no idea whether he did or did not do something like that. So she lost all memory during the transition? Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Because that's how that works? Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Prosecutors and Judge Michael Price dismantled the narrative completely. They presented the undeniable CODIS DNA match, matched the blood under Kathleen's nails and the floral blanket left with Yolanda, alongside testimony from Sailmates detailing how Perry had boasted about her crimes behind bars and changed her gender in part to evade law enforcement suspicion.
Speaker: On June 29th, 2017, the jury rejected the notion that a legal and physical transition could sever accountability, convicting 65-year-old Donna Perry on three counts of first-degree murder. She was subsequently sentenced sentenced to three consecutive terms in life ah of life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Speaker: So Perry's attempts to hide behind a new identity and medical transition and twisted psychological justification couldn't erase the digital print footprint of her DNA or the devastating reality of what happened along the Spokane River in 1990.
Speaker: Yolanda, Nikki, and Kathleen were mothers, daughters, and human beings whose lives were stolen by a violent predator who spent a lifetime collecting weapons and targeting the defenseless.
Speaker: Today, Perry sits behind bars at the Washington Correction Center for Women, finally stripped of it the ah anymity anonymity she used to evade justice for over several decades.
Speaker: And that is my story for you. But I have a question. a ph ph aological phzz what is that What am I trying to say? Physiological?
Speaker: Not physiological. ah Philanthropy? No. Philosophical. Philosophical. There we go I'm leaving that in So my question is, like this brings up a this brings up a good point.
Speaker: like If someone transitions in some way in their life, how much are we willing to forgive? Like I'm not forgiving murder. That's insane. Like you have irreparably damaged people's lives because of what you've done. And to be quite honest, I think they, Perry is definitely, they're, they're boasting about killing nine people. I would not be surprised if that's true or even more. I think they've done some serious harm, but it it talks about like growth and rejuvenation and the capacity for people to fundamentally change who they are over time. Like,
Speaker: how much are we willing to forgive? So my, I guess the way that I'm thinking about it is like, it's gender affirming care, right? So like it is making you the way that you, you actually are.
Speaker: no If you were a murderer, you're still a murderer. you know For sure. Yeah. And as to like, what are we willing to accept? Like, I think that,
Speaker: you need to separate out a lot of everything things, right? Like, I think like a lot of like gender dysmorphia, you have like depression that goes along with it, a lot of anxiety and people do make Decisions they wouldn't normally make when they are extremely depressed, when they are extremely anxious.
Speaker: So I think you need to strip apart all of that and like say, okay, this was not because of gender dysmorphia or like prior to gender affirming care. That was like, the that was, this was because of the depression. This was because of the anxiety. This was because of X of whatever else. And i think your defense needs to be like centered around those different things. But i don't think yeah I don't think anything, like, no matter what is going on, like, mentally or physically, you can't hide behind any of that.
Speaker: like you Yeah, you have to face the music. Yeah. I totally am on board with that. And you get the care that you need afterwards. Yeah. this this This transition, though, specifically, i don't think it was gender-affirming. think... i truly think, I mean, she's saying herself that the reason she transitioned is one, to evade police suspicion, and two, to become her the monster inside of hers, victim.
Speaker: I mean, like the only way that makes sense is if you like you don't think about it or you're like like either you don't think about it. It is literally just to evade suspicion or you're like horribly, horribly depressed that you want to become this thing that you hate.
Speaker: We're just other like like why do you hate women so much? Yeah, it's bizarre. It is very bizarre. Have you looked up a picture of her? Yes, that's what a lot of times when you're giving the episode, I'm actually like I'm either like on Google Maps or I'm searching pictures of the person you're talking.
Speaker: She looks scary and not because she's a transition person. I'm just saying like there's this darkness about their eyes that is and the way they hold their head.
Speaker: yeah it's the like tilt. I don't like it. But it's also, yeah, it also brings up like a good point though. Like if I am a reformed, let's say I'm like a drug addict and I'm reformed. I no longer do drugs.
Speaker: But while I was on drugs, I did horrible things. I... did home invasions or stole cars or whatever, hurt people around me.
Speaker: Does me getting sober automatically erase all of the harm that I did and people should just like get over it and just and like be fine with me as I am now? Or is there like some sort of like what does that process of change really look like? And how do people, how are people supposed to like just accept that past?
Speaker: This obviously is like, diabolical. This is in it. But like, if it's a, it's a lighter kind of transition, how do we accept that their past was shit, but they've moved on?
Speaker: I think, I think honestly your example of like drug addiction is a really great one because I think it's what you do after the fact, right? Like I've known a lot of people that have like been addicted and they've done things that they're not proud of, but like they also done the work afterwards.
Speaker: They've done the work. They've made the changes that they've needed to make. Um, and you can, I feel like it's like when you see them putting in the effort every day that like, you know, they're a different person.
Speaker: Um, But again, it's, and it's taking responsibility for it, I think is a big thing too. Like admitting that, Hey, yeah, I messed up. Like, ah you can, i can explain why I did it, but i'm not excusing what I did.
Speaker: I think that part is the big one. It's like, yeah, I was, a sh i i did I was in a bad place and it was, and I did all of these things, but I'm not a, I'm not a victim. Like i I did that. Yeah. And like accepting that kind of accountability.
Speaker: Yeah, I think that's probably why a lot of people are successful in like not going back, right? Like, awesome um yeah, like, again, it's like just like accepting that was a piece of you and then saying, I don't want to be that person anymore. Like, I'm going to commit to this. I'm going to make these changes um and I'm going to be better for it.
Speaker: Yeah, I agree. Well, that's my story. That was so interesting. I, like i said, I've heard about um Yates before, but I hadn't heard about Perry. That was fascinating.
Speaker: It is I, yeah, the, the, the transition piece for me was like but very interesting. And I, and I watched the video of them or her in the interrogation room and how she was using the transition,
Speaker: as like ah like um like a complete memory blocker. Like she was like, from my transition onwards, I have no idea what happened or what Doug was doing. And I just find it so interesting, that piece. And then also so interesting that her lawyer brought that up as the defense. I feel like that's just like fundamentally wrong.
Speaker: Yeah. Like, I feel like... If you're gonna make that case, do a better job. Like, this is in no way believable, you know?
Speaker: Yeah. It's crazy. Well, that's it for today's dive into the dark corners of the Pacific Northwest. If you love the stories or shivered a little, be sure to subscribe and follow so you don't miss what's lurking beneath the evergreens next time. Thank you for joining us on Beneath the Evergreens. We appreciate you diving into the mysteries with us.
Speaker: Until next time, keep your eyes open. And your door is locked.
