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Season 4- Episode 39- Don’t Mess With Elephants (Premiership Round SF & Super Rugby SF)
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It is the latest from those rugby dopes in America, what do they know? Well we know that our amazing U.S. Eagles have been in action down in New Zealand, putting in a heck of a shift to upend Australia. Yes, on this episode we cover some Women's action of late, including a windback of the Premier 15s final from a couple weeks ago, and yes how the amazing players from the U.S. showed in such a match. We also look back at a batch of Semi-Finals worth of the occasion from both the Prem and Super Rugby. This, a glance at who the Free Jacks will play in the Eastern Conference Final and much more. Thanks for the patience, now kick back and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introductions and Canadian Humor
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauzer. We're in. I'll be a little bit late, but hey, that's that's life. But hey, at least we're able to sneak this one in. Sorry. Well, I was. No, you're only you're sorry that Canadians didn't kidnap you. Let's be real. Well, that's true. But I was also in Canada. So, you know, saying sorry is I'm trying to fit in like they didn't kidnap me. So if I say sorry enough times, maybe they will. Maybe they will. Maybe they'll think you're one of them. Right.
00:00:37
Speaker
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Rugby Match Speculations and Team Support
00:00:44
Speaker
All that good stuff share, as we say, as you say as well. So, yeah, definitely share the so basically the end of season is going to be basically defined on one thing and that's whether or not what the result is on Sunday.
00:00:59
Speaker
Because if the result is the wrong side, then we're done next week. If it's the right side, then you better be goddamn believe that we're going to be talking about the final. So yeah, we'll have two more weeks of of fantasy rugby. Yanks. Yep. So everybody that wants more, you're rooting for the free Jax. If you want to shut the fuck up. Well, go to hell. Also, you're probably rooting for New Jersey. Good luck.
00:01:25
Speaker
Yeah, which what's wrong with you?
International Talent Boosting New Jersey Rugby
00:01:27
Speaker
I went first off, I just don't like when we were talking about a pre-pod about how teams that you just don't like and it's not about how good they are, but it's not like jealousy. New Jersey was kind of shit until they were in like mediocre and they were like, you know what, we need to bring in some international talent right in time for playoffs. Right. Because, yeah, no, give me a fucking break. They weren't. They were not that good. They were. They were, in fact, not that good.
00:01:52
Speaker
Grab a coffee for our good friend, George, the fancy rugby geek, obviously wrapping things up, but still pay your dues, boys. Good season, George. Yeah, another successful year for the man. So yeah, grab him a coffee slash beer, however you wish to see it. TRM upgrades, I'm pretty sure they aren't running until, running through next year if you get them right now, so I don't, you know, hold it against me, don't get it, but...
00:02:18
Speaker
Next year, get it. 100%. Set aside the budget so you can get it because it's totally worth it. It is worth it.
Firm Stance Against Racism and Support for BLM
00:02:28
Speaker
Black Lives Matter on this podcast, and as always, there is no room for racism in sport or in life. You and I were talking about this thing over with the elephant over in India, like, goddamn.
00:02:42
Speaker
Right. So we talk during this segment a lot about inequity and inequality. And there's very little talk about the people who deserve it getting theirs.
Viral Story of Poacher's Fate
00:02:53
Speaker
And so I kind of wanted to shift to this one where a woman who decided to help some poachers kill some baby elephants found out the hard way from the mama elephant that that shit won't fly. I've never seen the Twitter universe so
00:03:11
Speaker
united behind like the elephant in this situation. So if you don't know, yeah, this lady was helping poachers kill elephants. And the mom elephant trampled her and threw her up in the air, killed her.
00:03:26
Speaker
and then came back and had her funeral trampled her again. So yeah, like, I know everybody was like, what, like, before we knew that backstory, people were like, okay, what'd she do? She just, she obviously had a common. What did she do? And now we know and it's, yep, she, she had a common. So fuck with elephants. So like, yeah, that's, don't help poachers. There's only one place where poaching is acceptable and that's on the rugby pitch.
00:03:52
Speaker
At rock time. Yeah. And only if it's the other team's ball and not ours. Yeah, exactly. No, they're not allowed to do that. No poaching my ball. Give me my ball. Yeah, so we got so. Yeah, it's absolutely wild. And so that they are docile creatures, too. So when you pissed them off, you've clearly done something. Right. Clearly.
Patreon Plans and Summer Content
00:04:17
Speaker
Don't forget about our Patreon. Obviously, it's probably a little too late for you all, but we'll open it up for the summer. And then, yeah, next fall, we'll be back with more goodies. Yep. Yeah. So we'll give a little bit of a... We'll try to open it up. I haven't looked into it. I will after this week to see what we can do about maybe baking it free over the summer because there's nothing new coming out. Well, there might be some content new coming out, but nothing fantasy-wise. And then going into next year, we'll close it up again.
00:04:47
Speaker
and have a lot more analytical content for you. Right, right. Absolutely. All right. So to not get to beat too many friggin heads into walls here. So we'll we will wrap up international call ups next week, either way.
00:05:05
Speaker
because we know there's going to be a lot of ins and outs as it goes. Like we've already seen like Hugh Jones and Adam Hastings got dropped from the Scotland squad for the summer because I got injured. So there's that. So things like that will continue to happen.
00:05:19
Speaker
teams are still playing for, for some competition. So there's also that. So we'll, we'll wrap up all that next week. So don't get, uh, don't get too excited. We, including the Eagles, the Eagles didn't announce their squad. And I'm sure that'll have changes too. So yeah. Um, but yeah.
Rugby Squad Updates and Injuries
00:05:35
Speaker
And we really can't talk. I mean, it's so hard to like, from an England perspective, especially how can we talk like real, really talk internationals when both Johnny May and Jack Noel are in a 23. I mean, that's not a real
00:05:47
Speaker
Yeah, that shouldn't stay that way if it is. I quit, and I hope Australia smashes them. I mean, the Baba, oh, and the Baba, I'm talking about the Babas. The Babas are going to fucking rail them. Yeah, they'll have fun. It's going to be, right. I know the cruise missile is going to be in the second row. It's going to be awesome. And their back line is so much better. I mean, you know, could you? Yes, please. I can do that. But, yeah.
00:06:13
Speaker
May back there. May and Cock and Asiga as your starters. Anyway, let's move on. I'm not hugely impressed with Coco. It's not that I don't mind him. He's certainly more acceptable than Johnny May being there. There you go. Maybe that's the term. I don't know if that's a good thing either. It's like, it's acceptable. There's better out there, but okay.
00:06:37
Speaker
In other news, so we were very neglectful of the US last week in their piss poor performance against Canada, but they got all their Allianz Premier 15 players back, which we're going to talk about that in a little bit here.
US Rugby Team's Victory Over Australia
00:06:53
Speaker
But yeah, we get, they got all their, those players back and they put in a big, they got a big result against Australia 16, 14, and all those players played huge. Don't, don't, yeah, I don't doubt it. All those players played amazingly well.
00:07:10
Speaker
Yeah, the, especially up in the pack where you had Rogers and Johnson and KZ all step in, you know, Kontorna, Deve, Deve, God damn it, I always stumble on her name and I feel so stupid. The newly capped Lottie Clap coming in to play wing, and Kitana Howard, who has actually, I think, given
00:07:36
Speaker
the US a problem in terms of selection, because now it's like, who do you pick at 12? Because you have a lot of options for them there. You know, Victoria can play 10 or 12, or Howard, and then you have a lot of Kelter who just doesn't look like she's going to come off the field right now. Yeah, why would she? So, you know, and then, you know, you have Foster and Fury on the bench in this particular game.
00:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's I mean, it's great. You know, you have Charlie Jacobi on the bench as well. Summer and Johnson were both on the yeah. Yeah, this is gonna be great. But yeah, they put in the shift. Hope Rogers. Holy shit, what a game like she got player of the match and
00:08:20
Speaker
deservedly. She got the only try, but it was it was more. It was so much
Hope Rogers' Premier 15s Performance
00:08:24
Speaker
more than that. Good carries in space. Yes, she was she was doing good prop work around the pitch. She does. Like, yeah, she does. And she's come a real long way. There was an article about her where she was saying like, I'm one of the old heads now. And it's like, well, yeah, but you're also doing the things that you need to be doing. You know, there's still I mean, there's always room for growth. We can ask Vincent Koch about that. Maybe we'll talk about that in a little bit. But
00:08:50
Speaker
Yeah, there's not much more you can ask from a prop. She played a good portion of the match, and she was an impact player on attack and defense. Right. And it took every bit of effort from them to hang on, because they only got one controller penalty after halftime. So they were digging deep after a little while there.
00:09:15
Speaker
And I'll say Bridget Kaylee played a lot better this match. Her passing was really on point, kept the pace up, and her accuracy helped set a little bit of a tone in the platform. I think she put, in some cases, like I thought Katana played well, I thought Katana Howard was
00:09:39
Speaker
Was she the one who I think she kicked a lot and I think she didn't, wasn't she like kicking directly to touch like, she might've done that three or four times. It was just, uh, yeah, that wasn't helpful even though she was getting, again, getting good ball. So that's, you know, not much of a, um,
00:09:55
Speaker
Yeah. It's not like there's, you can, you can blame the nine on that. So, um, and that's good. You know, that's, that's a step up from, from Kaylee's last match and especially against a, to my, to my mind, a tougher opponent. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's a long minds, but I think I've already seen the lineup. I think Carly waters is back in.
00:10:13
Speaker
Okay, which is what you're not gonna say no, I mean, yeah, she is the best nine the US has so right. You really can't complain about it, you know, especially after spending the final part of her year over with series, you know, it's that clearly made an impact.
00:10:32
Speaker
Kaylee, I think is especially like in just an energy player off the bench at that point. So that's all right with me. I'm good with that. Yeah, I believe she is. I'm completely fine with that. Yes, she is. Just pulled it up. Yeah, no. So big task, obviously, in front of them, the mighty black ferns face or who they face in their final match in the Pacific Four series.
US Team Prepares for Black Ferns Challenge
00:10:52
Speaker
And the highest they can finish is second, unfortunately, I wish they had gotten.
00:10:57
Speaker
some sort of bonus point against Canada that would help. But that's, I mean, we did not play well against Canada. We all know this. Not a mystery by any means whatsoever. But hey, that's all right. The important thing is not now. The important thing is we got a few months. Right. Right. This is a good test. These are tests. Right. And this is huge for them. This is huge for them so that you can see what they have in front of them and what they need to work on.
00:11:22
Speaker
yep good quality opponents too all three of them really indeed so um even canada yeah oh no no especially canada yeah the other one that's this is the good side canada rugby the other side not so much yeah that's true that's true um but speaking of the women's game um something we
Premier 15s Final Reflections
00:11:46
Speaker
slap me in the face a little bit more because I skipped out on it on our on our docket was the the premier 15th final and you know yeah so we talked about hope rogers no say i wanted to save it for this i was not overly impressed with the hope with hope rogers in the fall at all
00:12:05
Speaker
And then she got a move over to Premier 15s where she played with Exeter and, you know, I don't like Exeter, but I loved all the players that were on it because of obvious reasons. I can separate the women from the men in this case. Same, yeah. Of all, they showed that shitbag row. I was just like, ooh. Yeah. Somebody hit him in the face of the ball. I just don't want to think about that, so. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:30
Speaker
But Hope Rogers, I don't, she, she came off at like the last minute, I think she played almost 80 minutes. And that was one of my big question marks for her in the fall was what's her fitness. And she played not only a hell of a game, granted the, she was on the wrong side of the result, but
00:12:47
Speaker
she played she stood out she stood tall and really all the u.s women in this game stood tall um aleve kelter was a beast she you know if marley packer doesn't score a double she might be playing the match honestly so great for her um
00:13:05
Speaker
Yeah, you know, Lottie claps, you know, American by proxy, but she's cap. So we'll take it. But on the other side, you know, the chief can turn it played really well. Casey and Rachel, Rachel Johnson made it a point to go and face up Poppy Cleo. And
00:13:23
Speaker
stood tall more often than not. Like I think one time she got knocked off and that was it. Every other time she made a point like when Poppy has the ball, I'm tackling her. And she did, she usually did it. And this is Poppy Cleo we're talking about here. Yeah, this isn't someone to screw around with. It would be in most teams, in most people's team of, you know, the last five years. Right. For, you know, the international games. So
00:13:49
Speaker
You know, I was a big fan of Rachel Johnson before. I am a huge fan of Rachel Johnson right now. I think she's been playing amazingly for them. So excited to have her. She showed well in the Australia game as well. Her and then Kate Zachary. Wow. Just another world from in terms of back rows and who should go where and all that stuff. I don't know how you pick
00:14:19
Speaker
somebody, I don't know how somebody sits there and outright ignores Kate Zachary. She won't make everybody's back row of the 15 for the last five or six years, but her hands up, her hands up. And she deserves to be somewhere in that team, whether it's an eight or seven, um, shit, she played 13 a little bit for the, for, for accident for a minute. She's, she's a great athlete. And, um,
00:14:43
Speaker
is really leader to and she has the other thing. Yep. She and a facilitator. So it's like, like, she does her job and she helps other people do theirs, which is like,
00:14:55
Speaker
He couldn't ask for more. How do you ask for more? So, yeah, I thought she stood up well and Contorna played really well and, you know, kicked. I think she kicked all her points. So, good on her. And Tetavo got over the line as well. So, that was great. So, yeah, for those that didn't think the Americans were a threat at the World Cup,
00:15:14
Speaker
Did you watch this game?
American Players Shining in Premier 15s
00:15:16
Speaker
Because I would think we can argue otherwise at this point. Put it this way. What excites me is I heard or saw a conversation about should the Allianz 15s do more to kind of ring fence just English players. And it's like, you're only saying that because Americans are stepping up and kicking ass. Like there's no other. It's not like they're saying that in any other like in the men's premiership. They're not like. No, definitely not.
00:15:44
Speaker
Definitely not. And again, you want to develop the local talent, but I don't think you want the best. You can outright share it off either, because that's not the right message either. Right. I mean, welcome to Rugby in the US, where so many people are like, oh, really? We're calling on all kinds of 400s every time. Yeah. Like, as the aforementioned Rugby New Jersey, you know, they're caring more about trying to win than really developing a club or American talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck them.
00:16:11
Speaker
But at the same time, in this case, you still have to wait because Americans are wildly available. There's plenty of us, especially in the women's game that are of that caliber. So, as you said, with Hope Rogers and even Nick Janet, a lot of these American players, they're getting called up mid-season. It's not like they're signing early. These clubs are like, you know what?
00:16:38
Speaker
Let's check them out. And they're making contributions. They're progressing. They're getting better. It's not like they're just going in and immediately dominating. They're coming in and kind of showing their ass and then suddenly getting, well, not suddenly, but over time, getting good. That's what you want. That's what everybody wants.
00:16:55
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I, I think, I think Kelter would end up being a real X factor for share since always played a little bit of fullback played a little bit 13 and she found her home at 13 and she thrived there. She really did. So, you know, right in the midfield, whether it was 12 or 13, but yeah, it was, so
00:17:12
Speaker
I remember somebody saying that she'd slide in really well at center. I can't remember who that was. Some fuckbag. I can't. It must be a gorgeous, gorgeous human being. I'm incredibly intelligent. He's the guy who crossed me. I don't know about that one. Well, I mean, we all have our opinions. It's true.
00:17:32
Speaker
It's true. All right.
Saracens vs. Harlequins Semifinal Review
00:17:34
Speaker
Let's, let's, let's, let's go to the English semi-finals for the men. First game up, Saracens, Quins, both, you know, both games were fan freaking tastic. This obviously was many moons ago, so we won't spend too much time on it, but at the same time, it is worthy of notes here, there, and everywhere.
00:17:54
Speaker
Well, let's start with your guy, Vincent Koch. Like, wow. That is a final game for him at the Allianz. No question. Yeah, absolutely. Or at the Stone X. Excuse me, obviously. Stupid, stupid TRM threw me off. I forgot about that. Yeah.
00:18:09
Speaker
Yeah, but still, an article came out this week, too, that the cock who didn't play, you know, you've signed with Saris and wasn't really playing.
Vincent Koch's Performance Spotlight
00:18:19
Speaker
And he was like, you know, Mark, what's up? And Mark's like, you don't you don't work enough. You know, you don't do enough work like you do. You know, the stuff you do is, you know, in this from and, you know, in set piece and in some open play is great, but your work off the ball is just not that what we need. And holy hell talk about bringing players in and then improving them.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah. That, like, that, you know, Vincent Koch went from, yeah, solid international, one of the, you know, one of the better tight heads to in conversation with like how, you know, how many tight heads are better than him at, you know, in all phases of the game right now. And that you see it there, just mind break little dish off to Davis, like,
00:19:03
Speaker
What the fuck when Al Davis is the most useful thing that a lot of Davies has done all fucking year there for Vincent Cox. So fine. But like cock made that what made that happen. I mean, not that that was that daily put him through, but still to be there to be out that out that wide with your 13 and run that kind of line as a prop as a tight head problem. Yeah. Give me. Yeah, it was it was that is that is property properly.
00:19:32
Speaker
you know, so and then obviously it comes down to we Saracens did well to get themselves in front. Once they kind of weathered the storm, you know, Quinn, like I said, like I said, on Twitter, Quinn's came out with her hair on fire. And series not so much. So credit to the Quinn's and they got themselves in that position. But you can't anybody that wants to shit on the Saracens like
00:19:52
Speaker
you can't speak, you can't sit there and say that that wasn't a hell of an effort to get themselves back in the game, get themselves in front and then survive, you know, what were probably rusty and stupid mistakes made by, you know, everybody with, was it three yellow cards and all of them within like 15 minutes of each other? Pretty much, yeah. So like,
00:20:12
Speaker
Yeah, anybody that sits there and wants to shit on, you know, the team unity that this team has. And, you know, we talked about the Wolfpack defense and goddamn. Right. And they were they won those those those yellow card periods, too. So it to me. And then you can attest to this because I like I was almost relieved that Quinn scored first.
00:20:34
Speaker
Because, you know, I like when the Sarries run. And so it's like, at that point, you know, you never know which Sarries to sometimes they want to kind of, maybe they wanted to like sail it up a little bit and slow the game down. But at that point, once, once Dom Brant went over, game on, you got to, it's time to go because you can't let them get away from you. No. And so, yeah, they still kicked a penalty, but then, you know, they then they started opening it up and really running.
00:21:02
Speaker
Yes. Most of that running done by one, Benjamin Earl, who way to settle, you know, way to back it up. There's players who, you know, win that player of the year award and then lose the semifinal at home. And then there's players who, you know, throw down a hat trick and take their team to the final over the returning champions. So Earl was super immense. And I like, I could smell it coming a mile away too. I was like,
00:21:32
Speaker
Earl's going to have a day, isn't he? And I wish I had had the balls to fucking capture them in tiara. I did not have that. But yeah, and it's just. There was so much and I could I could.
00:21:46
Speaker
I conceded that when, as far as the defense goes, in this game, when we had the two in the bin, I just smelled Murley was gonna get one in the corner. And I was like, all right, this is probably gonna happen, but we were still within a good, we had a good enough cushion that it wasn't gonna worry me, especially if they made the kick tough, which they obviously somewhat in the corner did. I think Marcus, I felt kind of sorry for him. I thought he was gonna hit that. I thought, ah, that's two. When they let him in just enough, I was like, ah, I think he's gonna hit that now, fuck.
00:22:15
Speaker
so yeah that was a bit of a shocker of a miss yeah i couldn't believe it and there was a hawk too if i remember right like whoa that's not what i'd expect out of him no he's he shanken eponymous that one so dr waywright yeah excuse me dr raywright um
Ben Earl's Hat-Trick Performance
00:22:34
Speaker
So that when that happened, but you know, I was like, you know what, for all the freaking pressure that the quints put on the series with those yellow cards, that was the only thing that happened. And I was OK with that. Like I was and I kind of I can see that that was likely to happen. But as long as they give up more, which they obviously didn't, I was like, all right, we're in good shape. And they got the one at the end to just kind of cap it, which I mean, well, the team you figure Murley is going to score in that game no matter what, because that's somehow kind of what he does. And he's one of those inevitables.
00:23:03
Speaker
Yeah, he's one of those who the you know, the bigger the game, the more he shows. You see, yeah, kind of went into this expecting a try from from early and he kind of expected to try from that forward pack. I mean, you know, they said, OK, we'll talk about the other the other one later. But Fizzard, Luis Evans, Dombrandt, that is an attacking pack right there. Yeah, it's a great pack.
00:23:27
Speaker
You know, and then there were Simmons who was actually also but really only after the whistle, like of all the players that I'm not sad about retiring. Fuck him. He's the one like, you know, he, it's not even just this game. There's other games where I'm like Simmons, what are you doing? Do you helmet?
00:23:43
Speaker
He just wants to start and he wants how the hell he hasn't gotten more cards in his career. I have no idea, but he just does that. And it's like, I don't know how he didn't get carded in that game. Yeah, he was throwing punches. He was. Yeah, that was a complete twat. And OK. But speaking of the yellow cards, though, I love that they're doing the review and the Jack Walker hit on on Farrell, which I thought was appropriate. Like, yeah, I think some. Yeah, I think some.
00:24:08
Speaker
Refs would give that a red, which would be incorrect. Yeah, that was kind of accidental. But I love they're talking about, was there any head contact? It's like, well, both their heads are bleeding. I'm going to give you a fucking hint, dude. They're both bleeding for a reason. From their heads. Right. So what do you think fucking happened? Reduce that, you freaking mathematician. God damn. Yeah.
00:24:28
Speaker
So, yeah, but in the end, fantastic match overall.
Leicester vs. Saints Semifinal Analysis
00:24:32
Speaker
What else we got? We got to go. So, when Swinson comes out and Ezekiel comes in, what was Ezekiel? The first thing Ezekiel did? Stolen. Stolen, I know. Like, and that was it. That was like, yes, this is why he needs to be in, not Swinson.
00:24:51
Speaker
Oh yeah it's like this is like Swinson got us through some time and you got us through those days and that's understandable and that's kind of I liked so and we'll come back to this um
00:25:06
Speaker
that theme, I guess, for the weekend later, I liked what McCall did start. I'm fine. If you're going to play Swinson, start him and you got an Izzuka off the bench, you know, you all can always bring him in at any time. And he did. He brought it Swinson in when Swinson really started creaking. And he Swinson played out and he played his time. How much? How would you describe, I think? Yeah, I mean, that's perfect. That's that.
00:25:33
Speaker
45. Five minutes into the second. Right. That's exactly what you want. You know, give us four, five minutes in the second half. And then you bring in the fucking Haas. And right away with the steel. And he did that the rest of the day, too. Like, that's just that that's a killer. You know, Quinn's kill it off of set piece. And if you're fucking up there, set piece that that hurts. And that was that was huge. Bringing him in. That really neutered their attack in a lot of ways.
00:26:03
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was, I thought he, yeah, I mean, obviously I'm a huge, a sequel fan and I thought he should have been playing from the start, but the fact that we got away with the way we did. Okay.
00:26:14
Speaker
He's not and it's not in the team this weekend, so. Yeah, I am actually surprised that that Jack Walker is is not is playing rugby this weekend. I'm kind of. Yeah, it's a little funny, a little funny on that one. He didn't he didn't know. I mean, this coming weekend, like he's not I don't know why he's on the team. He's going for England. Yeah. All right. I just.
00:26:38
Speaker
I'm not a huge fan of him. I think that's one of, you know, of all the places on, actually, that's the one position on Quinn's that's really a hole. Yeah. I mean, I still think he's a bit of an upgrade. I like Scott Baldwin, but I think he's a bit of an upgrade from Baldwin, honestly. But, yeah, no, I mean, he's... I can... The competition at that position is low as well, though, because, like, Joe Gray's your backup. Like, when they had to bring Joe Gray on, I was like,
00:27:04
Speaker
All right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm OK with this. And they brought Will Evans off. I was like, OK, definitely. Yeah, I thought for sure. We're like, we're losing the Vis, who's good in a leader, but also not the same player as Will Evans. I thought Will Evans would have made our life way worse if he was still on the field. If I was making that decision, it would have been Simmons off. Will Evans into the second round. Yep. Yep. And Madis, you're a vicious on. And that's because you've got to score. And Simmons was given nothing.
00:27:33
Speaker
Levis was still, I know he's not 100%, but he's... Yeah. Yeah. No argument on me, man. This is the last match of the year. If you lose it, he's got a bit of a rest. If you win it, you can talk about next week. Yeah. You got to win the one in front of you and then deal with the next one.
00:27:55
Speaker
Um, I don't want to, I don't want to completely disrespect the quiz, but though, cause it's not, we've talked a lot about the series. I thought the quiz played a hell of a match. Um, you know, Marcus Smith was, was fantastic in defeat. Um, Merle again, always, as always, Esther Hazen, I thought they, they dealt with him pretty well.
00:28:14
Speaker
Yeah, he's a tough one to like every time he carried the ball. My wife's like, who's that guy? I'm like, that guy's a fucking nightmare. Yeah, I hate that guy. I love him, but I hate him as somebody that's on the other side of the coin. Right. And Tyrone Green was kind of a ghost. He was a ghost until Hugh Jones came off. And then, OK, you move him back to fullback and suddenly there. Yeah, he finally had ball in hand. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, yeah. Unfortunately, Hugh Jones didn't really
00:28:44
Speaker
He didn't play the way he has been playing. Like, it would have been better to have green back there from the start because I think like he was ready. But yeah, and green played all 80. So yeah.
00:28:56
Speaker
Yeah, he did. So at least he got 80 under his belt. Right. So that was a good one for him. All right. Let's jump over to Welford Road. As I said, not a dry eye in the house before I kicked off, obviously. Can't imagine what the hell Ben Jones was feeling as he was standing there on the field, about to go play a match and think about, you know, a person that was in his life so deeply. Yeah, sister-in-law. Yeah. Like close. I mean, I'm sure they were super close. Yeah.
00:29:26
Speaker
So yeah, you could see he was holding it back too. Right. So yeah, tough, tough situation have to go into for him. But in the game, I think Lester can count themselves a little lucky in this case.
Leicester's Risky Player Selection
00:29:43
Speaker
I really do because man, there were there were a lot of 50 50s that went Lester's way and they went the if any of them and I think any of them really, certainly a couple of the early ones had gone Saints way.
00:29:55
Speaker
We are talking more squeaky bum time and if nothing else, possibly Saints playing in the final this weekend and not them. Right. I fully agree with that. First off, just speaking of lineups and the approach to the match, I got to say it wasn't the best decision to start Dan and Kelly.
00:30:19
Speaker
Probably not. No. He's coming back from a hamstring. Like, this is totally different. They're so dicey. Yeah. They're so dicey. And, like, Porter has been playing just fine. Porter and Maroney have been fine. And what you're going to do is you're going to put Kelly in to 12 and move. And I understand keeping Porter in, but he was kind of wasted out at 11 anyway. And ultimately, how long did that last anyway? You had to...
00:30:48
Speaker
had to push him over anyway and bring in Burns. But it's like that's that's that's and that's a risk right there, because Burns is not he's really not a 70 minute player anymore. But now he had to be and like your view is such a risk to do that. And it, you know, both those lucky it paid it didn't, I shouldn't say it paid off, it didn't pay off it. It didn't burn him. No, probably the better terminology to put it in. Yeah.
00:31:17
Speaker
But it was, yeah, and I, and I agree. It was, um, and ultimately this game is this game, um, not to scapegoat anyone because, but he knows he bottled it. I'm sure. Oh, I know. If Skosan has any sort of hands, he drops like 20 points worth of.
00:31:33
Speaker
He drops so much. Like, geez, they have at least two or three extra tries easily. Right. Over one, like, fucking catch the goddamn thing and then plus the other one that you cat bottled. The Mitchell tribe being a try would be, you know, without him snacking it instead of just kicking it. Right. And then, you know, he had walk-ins. He had multiple walk-ins.
00:31:55
Speaker
And it's like, and each one you're just like, even one of the last ones I said, I'm sitting there and I'm like, don't pass it to him. And Jess is watching and he just bottles it and she starts cracking up. She's like, how'd you know he was going to do that? Like, that's because he's done that twice already. That's why she was coming into it. I'm like, yeah.
00:32:18
Speaker
He's been doing that all game. I spend this whole fucking game. Oh, sorry. I, you know, it's not the way you want to go out for a season. Nope. Your heart goes out to him a little bit like nobody. You never want to see someone have that bad a game unless you're an elephant.
00:32:37
Speaker
Yeah, about it. About it. But just, oh, yeah, frustration up and down for the whole thing. I thought, I honestly thought Pauling frickin' Sam Matabasi at the same time as everybody else was stupid. I was like, no, leave him on. Heywood gave you nothing. Leave him on. He's giving you so much right now. Stop. Bigger going out was not helpful either. So, yeah, it sucks.
00:33:03
Speaker
But at the same time, Lester took care of business. Like, you can't take that away from him. I don't know if, you know, I mean, I'm in one of those better to be a year too early than a year too late situations with Mr. Bigger. I'm not. This year has not been, he's not been good this year. He's been a little off. I'm not, you know, at both levels. I'm not sure what to do with him.
00:33:33
Speaker
Um, yeah, he's a mystery right now. Yeah. I, I, I don't really like seeing that. I don't know if he was, he was obviously banged up, but, uh, he was, he was a liability on four more than he was a help. This, this match for, for the saints. Yeah. Agreed. Um, on the other side of the coin, obviously we had a lesser team that just kept rolling unquestionably. They, they had.
00:34:01
Speaker
guys that just fronted up, Genji obviously. I thought Jasper Veese had a very, very good game. He did. He had a little bit of a shit house really. Yeah, but got that out of the way, obviously. Got that out of the way and then he just took care of business after that. So whatever, if that's what it takes, okay. Yeah. He's got to get out of his system and he got away without getting a card. That's all that mattered. Yup. He fronted up the rest of the way. Yes, he did. So there was
00:34:30
Speaker
there was that and you just, it was a really, it was a really solid performance overall from the team. And if you have, if, if you need to do one thing in semi-finals, it is find a way to get it done. Yeah. You know, cause it's not always easy as Bristol bears found out last year. Um,
00:34:49
Speaker
and a few other teams have found out in previous years, it's not always just a kit, it's always just a layup. It's a little bit more complicated than that many times. It is. And sometimes, you know, their best defense is when the other team just can't catch a ball. But then again, you know, it's like the goalie when the opposing shooter hits the post. That's all I gave him to, that's all I gave him to hit.
00:35:14
Speaker
Yes, there was no one within 10 meters of coordinates close in, but we put pressure on him or we pressured the past or something. Yeah, I mean, not really, but OK, go for it. Yeah, whatever you whatever you want to call it. Right. No, I mean, and that's not fair. Lester played it did play well. I don't think like.
00:35:31
Speaker
on the ranks of the weekend, I would put them as having played maybe 2A or 2B. It's like them and Quinn's are about on the same level for how well they played. So, I mean, they certainly played enough. They played well enough to win.
00:35:46
Speaker
as did Quinn's, Quinn's just played a much better, a team that played better. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, so it's, it, it was the final that everybody was kind of looking at down the pipeline saying, is this going to be it? It is. It is. It's, it's, it's Lester and series going forward and it'll be, and we'll talk about it in probably about 45 minutes or so when we go to the other side of this thing. Um, but overall,
00:36:12
Speaker
This is, this is the one we probably thought we were going to get. And that's just, that's where we landed. Looking forward to it. It should be, it should be a very good match. And, uh, yeah, can't wait. Same. All right. Um, sorry to do this to you buddy, but we got to go over the, over the equator here and, um, down to super rugby.
Crusaders vs. Chiefs Semifinal Recap
00:36:32
Speaker
And first thing we're talking about is crusaders and chiefs and.
00:36:38
Speaker
It was there for the Chiefs. It was. It was so there. In so many ways. No, I was about to say the Chiefs lost this game more than the Crusaders wanted. Probably true. Probably true. The Chiefs were fucking stupid. I'm sorry, like... In a lot of ways, yeah.
00:36:55
Speaker
trying to throw a looping pass out. Like he's got a, Oh, that was silly. He's got a full runners on one. And instead of doing that, he tries to fucking fling it. And it's like these first off, that guy's covered. And second off, now it's the other team's ball.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, wait a minute. What are you doing? Yeah, you dumb fuck. And like, I think he had an ankle right off his shoulder. And he's like, no, like, no, let's let's why are we going to do that? And why are we going to do that? How many times did you have to see Brad Webb or having to be the first rocker? Because somebody just was like, you know what? I'm going to pick and go for no fucking reason. And it's like, no, no, no. Get back here. They just and sometimes it worked out, but then they just were hucking the ball around and, you know. Yeah.
00:37:37
Speaker
Was it Tavel who just like bottled that pass in the loose? Or no. Yeah, they bobbled it right to the... Like, bobbled it right to Haveli, I think it was. Yeah, it was. It was just... Like, they had all these turnovers from making bad decisions with the ball. They were not settled. They were running ahead of themselves. Like, and everybody's got to that at some point. You know, you're like, the game is... We're moving this game faster than we can really handle it. Right.
00:38:05
Speaker
And it's a little scary at that point. And yeah, they just didn't handle it well. And the Crusaders, every time they got an opportunity, they were scoring. And so in light of that, like look at the scoreboard, 20 to seven, right? The Crusaders did, they scored every opportunity. Anytime the chiefs made a mistake, they got points against them. And the Crusaders only had 20 points. What is that? That tells me everything.
00:38:34
Speaker
Right. No, I totally agree. Yeah. So if you're- What do you say? You hold the Crusaders to 20 points. Yes. You hold the Crusaders to 20 points and you have the attack- You should be good. You look at the attacking numbers, you know, you look at the possession and territory battle, and you say, okay, you know, looking at just that, and then you look at the scoreboard, just the Crusader side, 20 points. Oh, Chiefs had to walk.
00:38:59
Speaker
Right. No, but no, they only scored seven points. No, no, just how so frustrating. Yeah. So silly. But that's you know what? I'm OK. It's like one of those. I'm kind of OK with it. I mean, it's crusaders. So what are you going to do? But, you know, that's to me what the chiefs are. They're so fucking like.
00:39:25
Speaker
You know, we like, there's not really a plan. There's not really a structure. They're just kind of throwing the ball around a little bit and it's fun. It's fun as fuck. But like, even though, you know, I've said before that they kind of play the same way as the free jacks, but the free jacks have much more structure to them.
00:39:42
Speaker
Like, that's the scary part. It's like, these guys are, there's no structure. The guys are just everywhere. It's very French more than anything. And that was, I found that to be annoying. Which is not how I would usually describe any team with Warren Gatlin involved. I mean, but... Right. They, like, they lost the period. Matera had a red card. And they lost that period.
00:40:02
Speaker
So dumb helmet. Oh, yeah. And fuck him. Fuck him. I was. Yeah, I was like there. And they were like they reviewed the second hit longer than the first. And it was one of those. If you give him another yellow, it's a red. Right. So just be done with this thing. He's gone either way. It's a red card. It's a citation, whatever. Either way. Like, yeah, just get on with it.
00:40:28
Speaker
We know the fuck moving. He's off. It was worse than the two pie hit. So it was obviously a red yellow. Like you set the standard. It's obviously yellow. Get off. Be done. Be done. I was happy that the two I mean, I thought the two pie yellow was harsh.
00:40:44
Speaker
But he got the same standard the whole day. Exactly. And that's all I can ask for. Which he can ask for, really. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm also glad it was yellow. Like, as much as I shit on the Southern Hemisphere referees, that was ultimately the right call. I thought it was like a harsh yellow, but at least they're like, good. Set that, like, police that. If you're going to do that, good. Yeah. Let's keep it up. Because I thought he was, he was, he was sinking, like, first off, you know,
00:41:11
Speaker
Attacker dropped because he knocked it on. Right. It was Matera, right? Yeah, I think. And he like dropped like stone and Tupiah actually tried to go down with him because he realized he was dropping.
00:41:26
Speaker
And he also wasn't, there's no force in it. I thought he, Topaya kind of held up, like, you know, cause he was going for the ball, if anything too. Yeah. I thought that was like, but good. If that's the standard, I much rather have that standard than the standard that Kiwi rest have shown previously. Right. Yeah. So, and that's all I have to say about backing. Nick Perry's Aussie. Yeah, that's true. All right. And then the other one,
00:41:56
Speaker
at Eden Park blues and Brumby's and blues just held on for the
Blues vs. Brumbies Semifinal Highlights
00:42:00
Speaker
life. What a match. Noah Lillisio is going to see that in his sleep, unfortunately. Sorry buddy. Did you see fucking, who was it?
00:42:12
Speaker
Where was he? Hold on. Yeah, it was Tunga Fasi. Yeah, that's what it was. That's exactly who it was. Or no, it was one of the two. Yeah, it was Opa. That's right. It was Opa, because I remember screaming. Right. It wasn't Tunga Fasi. And, yeah, that's a... That's a large man to see in your nightmares for a while. Yeah, it is. It is. It is. And, you know, it's...
00:42:41
Speaker
This was, this is obviously a slightly tighter match for the other one, but, and it was very different in a lot of ways for many reasons, other than the points as well. We had two teams that were, you know, they were in terms of numbers, fairly straight, fairly evened out. Um, and in terms of, you know, uh, play and who had the dominance here and there and everywhere.
00:43:03
Speaker
Yeah, it was pretty close. And, you know, I think the one thing that you can probably say really did it was just the breaks that the Blues were able to get and they capitalized on them as much as they possibly could with their eyes. Simone right off the bat. What? That way to set the tone. Like that's... Yeah. I was like, okay, game on. Yeah. Game on.
00:43:28
Speaker
I was like, that was like, oh, it was one of those like almost rocky moments. Oh, they think this is going to be a game. And they made it a game. Well, I mean, that's so much more than you could have expected, honestly, from from grumbies. Yeah. Really stepping up and showing up. Yeah. I mean, they were they were a props.
00:43:49
Speaker
pace away from from winning it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, as far out as he was, I'm not sure that was that was the option there. Because no, they hadn't said anything. They, you know, I mean, give credit to the kid taking it on himself and saying, I'm doing this. But at the same time, they hadn't set much up. So then yeah, but right, it was like, whatever what like,
00:44:13
Speaker
You know, see what happens. You never know. Stranger things have happened. And if you believe, you know, he wouldn't have done it if he didn't believe he could. It wouldn't have been like, you know. That's why I give him credit. Yeah. So because a lot of people would have questions sometimes. That's what you got to do. You know. Yeah. So and also if it wasn't for a heads up prop. Going all out.
00:44:38
Speaker
Also, so for those kids at home, you got to know when you're fucking hurt. Because Tom Hooper cost his team, you know, a turnover big time when he had his shoulder freaking popped out. And I don't remember who kicked the dropout off that, whether it was Parafetta or if it was Bodhi.
00:44:59
Speaker
They both looked at him and said, you my bitch. And they got him to knock it on. And I was just like, next time, know when you're done. Like, I understand 17 minutes to get to the semifinal, but fuck. Like, come on, man. And rhyme or shoulders totally boned. Knock it off. Right. And be a good teammate at that point. It's not about you. It's now it's about what's best for the team. And what's best for the team is for you to not be on the pitch. Right.
00:45:28
Speaker
I think who they chose to bring on for him too says a lot because people were all big about Jerome Brown. I agree. I don't like Jerome Brown a ton. So Luke Rimer was the choice. I think it speaks volumes about which one they prefer. Obviously they had to take Valentini off at halftime because he was out of gas.
00:45:48
Speaker
Um, move salmon to eight, but again, volumes about who they prefer and what they think of Jerome Brown, because people were all hyped about them. And I think there's something there's, there is something there. Yeah, it's not there yet though. It's not there yet. And that's cool. Um, yeah. How old is he?
00:46:10
Speaker
he's 25, like he's still, I mean, he's almost to that age. Yeah. And like, I think he'll, you know, maybe next season might be his, his breakout year like that. There's, if there's a lot, you know, every so often he does some, some cool shit and, and he's been solid in his tackles, at least when I've seen it in play.
00:46:30
Speaker
But, yeah, to me, though, I would bring Rymer on. I thought that was the right decision. I think he's... Yeah, I think his decision making is probably what lacks, honestly. Right. Because Rymer, I think, is a guy who's like, yeah, he's not going to fuck you. And that's really... That's what the Brumbies needed. So, that was the right thing to do for this match. Yeah. And then, the guy that was my 10th of the year for Super Rugby stood up big for the Ham and Bodhi Barrett. Just making things happen and...
00:46:59
Speaker
Yeah. It wasn't, wasn't, you know, the guy that got the job done over the line, but fuck, like really made a difference to this team. And what do you, what do you, um, just flipping field for them and, you know, deciding, yep, we're not, we're going this way, please. Let's, let's, let's go that way. He started a lot. He was involved in, I'm pretty sure the lead up to both tries. So like, yeah, that's, that's what makes him fantastic is his distribution ability.
00:47:26
Speaker
Yeah. So, but, so the guy that was your hook for the year, um, somebody else took his job and what he usually does. Yeah. In the same exact fashion, you'd expect flying God to get to, um, so, Hey, it's, you know, good, good on you. Not bad kid. Not bad at all. Um, and, uh, and one final note, I do think.
00:47:52
Speaker
For me personally, being a guy that was in second row for a long time, I thought the best second row in this match was Darcy Swain.
00:48:03
Speaker
I don't think, yeah, I can't really disagree with that. Yeah. I'm no word. I want to know. Yeah. He was, I thought he was great. You know, you could clearly see he was going to be the guy that was going to not come off. Um, even when we started approaching that, but watching out for what's, you know, sometimes deemed the time to bring on a replacement second row and nope, it was definitely not going to be him.
00:48:23
Speaker
No, Neville, Neville had already gone and, you know, right. That's that was that was kind of the same kind of thing as what we saw with Saris. Like, thank you, Neville. You didn't, you know, you didn't, you haven't caught this up yet. So let's get you off. Right.
00:48:38
Speaker
Right. And Swain was certainly putting his hand up as far as I'm not going to let the blues just go blues on us. Nope. So well done to him. I think he took both line outs on the Lonergan tries as well. So that speaks volumes to how much they trust him at least.
00:48:57
Speaker
Okay, so yeah, we got an all QE final. Sorry, Australia, you still got work to do. To nobody's shock, honestly, after the way the quarter files went, that shouldn't shock anybody. But it'll be at Eden Park and not down Christchurch. That's a big difference. That doesn't happen often. And Crusaders have found a way to get it done away from home in finals.
00:49:27
Speaker
I think this blue team is bad. I'm not really that, I know it's, it's, uh, I'm unconscionable to say I'm not that impressed with this crusader scene. They have some impressive players, but it's not like they're, they're not, you know, the mystique isn't there. It's like, yeah, they'll fuck you if you don't do your jobs, but
00:49:46
Speaker
You can you can do a job on them. It's that's there for you. Yes, it is. I think those are a team that, you know, take advantage of those opportunities more that certainly more than the Chiefs like you gave the Blues the opportunity the Chiefs had against the Crusaders. It's. Yeah, I think I think that team finishes. I think if you look a little bit at the benches that are going that we're going into this weekend with.
00:50:09
Speaker
I look at the Crusaders, McAllister not bad, and Williams not bad. Fletcher Newell is kind of a fresh face, so I'm kind of, he's a question mark in my head. Corey Kello is also another question mark. Quentin Strange only has a few minutes, and then because he just came back from a big injury. We know our thoughts on Britton Hall and Mr. Drummond. Strange? Strange? Didn't he play 80? He played last week, yeah. No, he did not. He came off the bench.
00:50:29
Speaker
Oh, OK. Oh, that's right. He came off for the Gallagher. Yeah. We know our thoughts on Hall and Drum and they're about the same. So whatever. And Orange Bridge are definitely like, whoa, names like that is like, holy shit, moments. But you look on the other side for the sake of the blues, you have two outstanding front rows that are all blacks into a new coffee and two on Ghafasi. Yeah. Luke Romano, who's got a couple of caps his name, you have Dalton Papa Lee coming off the bench.
00:50:58
Speaker
Sam Lock, yeah, he's crap, not news. You have Bryce Heem and you have Zarn Sullivan. And I'll take Bryce. I'm not, you know, Zarn, I can take the leave. Bryce Heem, I like. Yeah, I do too. So, and I actually, I do like Zarn Sullivan. Yeah, you know, most people had him penciled in starting this year as the Blue's pullback. But Parafetta has been. Stephen Parafetta stood up and said, no, I'm getting on that.
00:51:19
Speaker
That's my 15. Yeah. So, you know, credit to him. And here we are, you know, with a couple of really good lineups to start. But then you look at the depth. What happens when some of these guys need to be asked to, you know, go 80 and they can't because there's some guys that are going to be question marks. So, yeah, it'd be interesting to go see what goes down in Eden Park this coming weekend.
Preview: Free Jacks vs. Rugby New Jersey
00:51:44
Speaker
Speaking of this weekend, Prejax know their opponent.
00:51:49
Speaker
We do now. It's going to be rugby, New Jersey. Coming back to the scene of crime. But this time we're not going to pull our fucking starters at, you know, right? It's not going to be a mixed bag. It's not going to be Asian. Yeah, it's not going to be a mixed bag. You know, hopefully we leave what's his butt on the bench. Although is that is that line up out yet? Not no, not at last check. Let's have it. Let's have a look. Let's have a look. But yeah, so and I thought
00:52:19
Speaker
We talked about try scoring contests and all that stuff. Oh, and up is out. Yeah. Who we got. Oh, is he in? He's starting. No, God damn it. Yeah.
00:52:34
Speaker
Uh, center, Evy, uh, to yogurt at two and three and open, which we know. Yep. Paretti, Joe Johnson. Yeah. So like that. Oh, and walk, uh, Bella, Bella Conner, Bella Conner, Milan and Vanderbank, which is ever reliable. The new call up for Harry. It will, Mitch Wilson gets a, uh, get to try it. Not Harry Wilson. Mitch Wilson gets a, gets a celebration here. Um, five.
00:53:03
Speaker
DeWitt, Quinton. I mean, it should be Quinton starting. Yeah, it should be. But, hey, that's a guy you bring in, right? You let Zekara blow his load for 20, 30 minutes. And then, you know, when he starts leaning on the rock, the first time you see him start leaning on the rock... That should be the fucking ultimate sign. Like, you're leaning on the rock a lot, dude. Stop.
00:53:22
Speaker
You're done. Younger. So we only have two back subs because throw up heights is a back row sub. So that's the one thing kind of there. Yeah. But okay. Reusing younger. So I wonder if they're just not comfortable with leaning on some of the guys that would be in there. Yeah. Because I don't think Barlow is quite healthy enough. No.
00:53:47
Speaker
Yeah, so I still like I like that lineup. I'm happy with that overall. Despite that, but whatever that's been his. I know. Yeah, I don't get it. Yep, yep. No, so anyway, but yeah, we talked about, you know, hopefully that doesn't make too much of a difference, though, because they're New Jersey's big.
00:54:15
Speaker
draw, you know, that's their bat, you know, their wings, essentially. And yes, if he if he's in charge of being anywhere around their wings, something else has gone horribly wrong. Something's gone horribly wrong. So hopefully they can avoid giving up, you know, he gives the void, avoids giving up line breaks. That's my only concern there. Keep that to that. So that's all we like doing that. Yep. And New Jersey, I thought they they weren't that
00:54:45
Speaker
They weren't that different from it. I mean, they didn't differentiate themselves from Atlanta that much. No, but I thought Atlanta played like poop at the same time. Exactly. They were hot garbage. Like what? And it's it was the Kirk. They tried to make it about the Kirk Coleman show, but at the same time, Kirk Coleman's not that guy that you can do that with. So why the fuck did you do that? Right. Just asking, asking for a friend.
00:55:12
Speaker
So yeah, I mean, the right team is playing in the Eastern conference final, no doubt. Um, so it'll be fun to go on Sunday. And if you're all out there and want to hang out, then just come to section seven. And that's where we hanging on the other side.
00:55:28
Speaker
Sabercats and Seawolves are going to be our final Seawolves to dispense to San Diego quite easily, honestly. Really? I mean, that's kind of, I mean, surprisingly so in a way. Really? I'm not that big. We're not neither of us, I think, are too sold on Seattle, but
00:55:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That was no joke of a, of a team that went out there for, for San Diego and they, they just tossed them aside. So good on them. But so we'll see. Um, yeah, Houston coming up this weekend for them. I, yeah, I'm not sure what to think of that.
00:56:01
Speaker
because it'll be I wasn't overly impressed with the savory cats right so and actually you know they the seattle I thought they showed up against the free jacks if I remember correctly that was a they made things interesting yeah keeping Ben and Landry on the field for as long as that wasn't a good idea while he was injured but right um and then uh
00:56:23
Speaker
Yeah, I, I, I, I'm from what I call the Houston match. I was not, I was not overly impressed. Although this is a, probably a different team than the one that they faced. Probably. I think they were without a couple of people and they played here. So we'll see. Um, I think they beat them down in Texas. I don't think we had any of the Texas teams play a year. I thought we did. I would have picked all over them.
00:56:46
Speaker
Didn't I go to one of those? I don't know. Maybe. Oh, you might have. I don't remember that one. Not my, that also might've been it. Right. One of the ones that you went to and I didn't, uh, but either way, so it's the important ones that the East will worry about the rest later. Uh, let's see. Yeah. We were looking back. Find me results. Damn it.
00:57:15
Speaker
Did we not play Houston at all? Maybe that's it. Maybe you can play Houston. Okay. That's the answer. That's why I was unimpressed.
00:57:25
Speaker
Jeez. Oh, we only played one Texas team at all. That was the No Grownies. And that was the way, right? Yep. That was down there. Yeah. Maybe still one. Right. Even with your cheating team. Yeah. And by the way, I want you to shut shit too hard on that. Right. Like, people are again, still seeing people like, oh, this looks bad for like the fucking Ben Foden. Fuck you. All right. Oh, fuck him. Go fuck yourself.
00:57:51
Speaker
like don't that's that no don't don't talk bad about the family in public again like don't ever take sides against the family again like that's not what you do you don't say oh this is really bad for the no
00:58:05
Speaker
This isn't bad for the league. What would be bad for the league is if they did nothing. Like, yeah, you don't want that. It's such a bad state. You're always going to have, right. Oh, what? You're always going to have teams that are willing to push the envelope. That's the thing. Right. That's the way it is. That's what competition. It happened to competition. And when you get caught, you fucking fess up. That's all. That's the best you can do. And when you don't do it, you get punished even more. So like that's the league is doing the right thing. So don't don't.
00:58:35
Speaker
It's not bad for the league. It's good for the, it shows that the league has integrity and that's, that's, give a shit about the product in front of people. Right. And it's not a, it's, it's not built on a house of cards, you know? Right. There's, there's, uh, right. No, no room for values. There's, there's standards. Like that's what we need. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Okay. Um, so yeah, we got that, we got that covered. Sweet.
00:58:59
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So yeah, like we said, we'll talk about internationals next weekend and depending on results going on this weekend.
00:59:06
Speaker
We might have, we might be done next weekend or we might have a couple more to go find out. But either way, and you know, one or two more will give us a chance to talk about the upcoming internationals as well. So that'll be kind of nice. Not so bad, but, um, I mean, we do a short preview for the, uh, for the upcoming season too. Yeah. We'll do a little outlet for that one as well. Right. Exactly. No question. And obviously we'll do all our thank yous and all that shit as well. Um, depending on which episode that is, but you know,
00:59:35
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Well, remains to be seen. Don't look beyond Sunday right now, guys. All right, cool. So, yeah, we will. Our fancy pie will be very brief this coming this coming week here. So if you're hopping over there, we'll see you there for all of the 20 minutes that will probably take us. And then if not, then we'll catch you next week. Thanks for being patient with us. And we appreciate you all for listening. Have a good one. Later.