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Star Wars The Bad Batch S2 E11: Metamorphosis
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The full Animation Deliberation trio is back in full swing to break down the monster mayhem of the Bad Batch's newest entry.
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On another exciting episode of the Animation Deliberation podcast, the force has given us two shows this week. Not only are we continuing coverage of Bad Batch, but we have season two, episode one of Mandalorian. Not going to go too much into it, but we're excited. We're going to talk about that much more about these ads. We have no control over. Season three. Just leave it in there just like that.
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Hosts Introduction and Star Wars Discussion
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Sing along if you know the words. Animation, deliberation, a conversation, and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, welcome back to another episode of Animation, Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously. We are your hosts, the three of us. I'm Zuharli.
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My name is Jay Scottie Sinclair. And I am Andrew Rogers. And we are back talking Star Wars, talking Bad Batch.
Pokemon News and Netflix Collaboration
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Got a lot of things to get into, but first we have a little bit of news. Andrew, what do you have for us in the Pokemon department? Yes, it was Pokemon Day, the anniversary of the initial release in Japan. I believe it's the 27th year that was
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the 27th as well, funnily enough. And they announced that they have this ongoing deal with Netflix and they are producing the first show from this deal. It is a Netflix produced show called Pokemon concierge that will be produced with the help of dwarf studios in a stop motion animation style and they didn't show very much of it. But even just the singular scene that they gave us. It just looks like it's already going to be very, very pretty.
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I can't necessarily say I'm super intrigued by the concept, but I think I'm going to give it a shot just because they're coming out with something unique. And I think that's awesome for an anime that has arguably been stuck in a rut for the past 20 years. Yeah, agreed. Pokemon has been one of those things that has the potential to diversify and do things outside of Ash trying to be the best there ever was. But so whether it's a success or not, I'm glad they're actually like, giving it a try.
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Yes, and they kind of teased in that announcement that they said this is the first thing we are doing. So it seems like there are more things going on behind the scenes with Netflix's animation and Pokemon working together. The stop motion angle definitely gets my attention. Like as soon as I read that description, I was like, ooh, stop motion. That'll be really cool to see some of these like beloved and iconic Pokemon rendered in that style. But also the title concierge, like I don't really know
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anything about the show other than what we've discussed right here but the title concierge has me like curious is this going to be like a different type of show that maybe focuses on like a shopkeeper or something than that or like that rather than like you know the traditional trainer like going out into the field or maybe I'm just ignorant to like what the role concierges serve in the world of Pokemon.
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No, honestly, Jay, Scotty, you bring up a very good point that I kind of forgot. Not everyone watched the half hour Pokemon presents presentation like I did when this all happened. Because they they go into this. The plot of the show is there's a Pokemon resort, wherein Pokemon come and they stay and they do whatever little adventures they have. And it's going to be something about the misadventures that the Pokemon specifically are having at this resort. So I don't know how many trainers are even going to be involved. But it
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You are correct. It is surrounding a resort with the concierge department, probably, you know, poking fun at whatever they're doing. But yeah, that's kind of the synopsis they gave us. It wasn't much to chew on, but it's at least enough to know that something is coming. But I did want to talk to your point of rendering beloved characters. They had Psyduck as the first one. And he just looks so cute in this picture. He's just returned and shiny. And I love him. That's awesome.
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Yeah, what you mentioned about the Avengers kind of reminded me of like the Pikachu shorts that used to come on before every Pokemon movie that came out. Really, Pikachu and the Avengers would go like get into trouble while Ash and all of them were out without them. So I'm kind of hoping Elise gives me that vibe. And Pokemon also has reached that point where it's like there's over a thousand now. So it kind of like there's an attraction to new viewers that
Zoids Nostalgia and Merchandise
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It's understanding if they don't know each one, like there's more of like the fascination of design more than like the intensity of like needing to know each one. Like that's what playing the games has been like. I was like, I don't know what the hell that is. Is it useful? Okay, it's in my Pokedex. I'm not going to use this again. Let me go back to what I know.
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Um, so I think there's like a little fascination to draw in a new audience with that as well. But speaking of anniversaries, we have the 40th anniversary of Zoids and they haven't given out too much information outside of a small trailer, but there is going to be a reemergence of that. That was one of the shows I absolutely loved on Toonami, you know, in my, in my exposure to anime that's ruined me for life, but I'm very proud of it. Uh,
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I'm intrigued with that. I don't want to say I'm excited yet, but I am intrigued with this. Yeah, I don't know if I'm as big a fan of Zoids as you are. I definitely watched a handful of episodes when I was growing up and we were kind of talking off air. One of the big things that stood out to me about Zoids at the time it was coming out is it was one of the first shows to really incorporate 3D models and computer animation into a traditionally animated show.
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It's got a fond spot in my memory for that reason, so I'll kind of be Checking in on it, and I did actually have a few of the like the toys like the models They were some of like the easier models to put together when I was when I was younger It didn't require like the exacto knife or the superglue so
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If we get a new line of merchandise out of this, I'll kind of be paying attention to that as well. Wallets beware. Yeah. I don't like or zero action figures sitting on that shelf somewhere back there from when I was like 10. Nice. On the cool things that I'm glad that I still kept.
Spoilers and Merchandise Leaks Debate
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Well, on the subject of merchandising, this next piece of news here, we will not spend very much time on it all. But what if season two is coming out, we still do not have an official release date for that, but there are spoilers out there via Funko merchandising. So if you're very wary of spoilers, like most of us are, go ahead and mute the proper terms on your social media, your Twitter, your news sources and whatnot. And I have read the spoiler
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And I'm not upset about what I read, but I would caution everyone. You probably, if you're sensitive to spoilers, just don't want to know. So tiptoeing around that as much as I can.
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It's like you're bummed that you do know. It doesn't affect you that you knew you know, but you wish that you didn't. Yeah. This is a whole nother conversation. Spoilers, I don't know if I'm as sensitive to spoilers as either of you. I hate it.
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It depends on what it is. For example, spoilers for in-game. Had that moment with Cap holding Mjolnir, had that been spoiled for me, I would have been livid. Yeah. But other smaller... Of course, the family's generations. Yeah. Exactly.
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I really think my biggest thing with spoilers and again, it's a bigger conversation is the way in which they are approached. Like the fact that these toys have come out and every single person has written an article on this. I'm like, yeah, some people don't want to see that. Maybe we just don't need to report on this 70 times. Whereas like if I stumble upon it because it was a small leak or because like, you know, someone told me a thing
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in passing, you know, it is what it is. It's when it's deliberate that people are reporting on it that it bothers me. Yeah. Or like you, for whatever reason, like you haven't seen a movie that's in theaters, and it's been like a month or two, like just kind of like that little statue of limitations. Like, it's, it's annoying all the same. But yeah, especially when it comes to merchandise, like you have control over when that comes out. And if we don't even have like a definite date of a show when you're showing me the stuff that's going to be in it, like, screw you for that.
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Yeah. And just a quick aside, like speaking to the way articles are like written and just the way the 24 hour news cycle works
AI Animation and Corridor's Project
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these days. And like a lot of these, like, I don't even know the way to describe them. Clickbaity doesn't seem right, but just like.
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any website can like write articles nowadays and they can make whatever headlines they want. But as I was searching for animation news this week for this show, Andrew, I know you're a big fan of Corridor as well. So they had their like they've been building up to this viral video that they did where they used AI generated art to like convert
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a short film they did into like they made themselves anime characters and it's rock, paper, scissors. It's really good. I definitely recommend checking out YouTube corridor. But I saw this article and I'm not even going to give credit to the website or the journalists because I don't want
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to give them any attention or anything like that. But they were basically saying, like, corridor's latest viral video is morally reprehensible in terms of animation and what animation really means. And I'm like, if you watch the video at all or knew all the work that went behind it, it's completely untrue. But anyway. They are also on the forefront of understanding the rights and laws around AI generation. So this person very much is
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not informed, but we digress. Go check them out because it is a very fun video.
Bad Batch Episode Analysis
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I also have seen it. Yeah. Well, any last minute thoughts before we dive into this synopsis for Bad Batch? Yeah, everything else I want to talk to is anime related. So I will save that for the My Hero episode, which you guys should check out.
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Cool. All right, well, let's kick it off with the synopsis here, season two, episode 11 of The Bad Batch, titled Metamorphosis. Dr. Royce Hemlock travels to an Imperial facility on Mount Tantus to meet Nala Se. He tries to persuade her into taking part in the Emperor's cloning projects, but she refuses. Meanwhile, a covert transport bound for Mount Tantus ends up stranded, and Sid assigns The Bad Batch to recover its cargo.
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While exploring the wreck, they discover the cargo is an immature Zillow beast, secretly cloned away from Kamino to serve as a living armament resource. An Imperial Strike Force is sent to recover the beast and capture all nearby witnesses, forcing the Bad Batch to retreat. Shortly after, Lama Su is brought to Mount Tantus to persuade Nala Se to cooperate. He divulges Omega's existence to Dr. Himmlock in return for his freedom.
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I kind of want to talk about bad batch as a whole for a second.
Storytelling and Character Development in Bad Batch
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Okay, we're gonna jump right in the deep end.
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Yeah, I can't shake it. I've been thinking about it since yesterday. So Mandalorian dropped yesterday. Yeah. And I only had time to watch one show before I went to bed. I was really tired and I was like, I'm committed to Bad Batch. I'm going to watch it first. Everyone's like, Mandalorian's back. Mandalorian's back. And the animation side of me is like, but Bad Batch is still going on. Let's be excited for that. And the logical side was like, have I been happy with Bad Batch? Like, do I want to really be promoting that? So.
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We talk week in and week out about how these feel episodic and which ones are foundational pieces and where is the season going. And this episode has kind of been like the tipping point for me, because with the success of Mandalorian, we instantly went in Favreau we trust and Filoni we trust.
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A few of Filoni's backgrounds, give me a thumbs up, a thumbs down, or a meh for the shows I'm about to mention. Star Wars Clone Wars. Thumbs up. From what I've seen, thumbs up. Okay. Star Wars Rebels. Thumbs up. Never seen it. Avatar The Last Starbender. Thumbs up. Two thumbs up. Legend of Korra. Thumbs up. Never seen it, but I hear good things.
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Does Bad Batch feel like it resonates the same as those shows? And does it live up to Filoni we trust? Because now I'm at the point where the episodic stuff doesn't feel meaningful, which in all the shows that I just mentioned, that seems to be the Filoni effect. Like, where are you guys in episode 11 and the grand scheme of season two of Bad Batch in regards to the Star Wars universe?
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Yeah, you weren't here for our discussion last week, but I think last week was when we kind of came to the realization like, okay, we need a little bit more from this show or things to start paying off sooner to really be satisfied. And I liked this week's episode more than I liked last week's episode, but it was still very much a lot of highs and lows for me.
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I found myself really enjoying the homages to the classic sci-fi horror film, Alien. I liked the creature design of the Zillow Beast. It sounded like it made an appearance earlier on in the Clone Wars with an attack on Coruscant, but it was my first time seeing it. I have a ton of arc. Okay. Okay.
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suggested with some of these episodes. I like action, but if it's just action for action's sake with no real character development or story development, I find my attention kind of waning and I find myself getting a little bored. And that's where I landed with this episode. My attention was kind of coming in and out. I was like, why is this happening? Why is it not grabbing my attention like that? And I found myself ultimately, like I said, oh,
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I can't believe I almost forgot this up, left this out, but when we saw these new Imperial Commandos and I was instantly reminded of like the Republic Commando video game from the mid 2000s, I was like, oh yes, that was really cool. That was a good look. Yeah, but other than that, it was kind of like the bookends of this episode with this new character, Dr. Hemlock, and that's what ended up sticking with me more than anything else in the episode.
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The fact that Lama Su is still around, I was kind of like, okay. I kind of verified what I said in the previous episode where the door slid shut and we didn't know that he died, but it felt like it was implied. But I found myself kind of being like, oh, that makes it feel like the stakes aren't quite there.
Zillow Beast and Bad Batch Future
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But I feel like I've said a lot, so I'll cede my time here.
00:15:58
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No, you're good. And I kind of am happy I let you go first, because we have three very different opinions. It feels like Zuhair is on the lower end. You were kind of in the middle. Uh huh. I hesitate to say this is my tipping point in the other direction.
00:16:13
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Okay, I'm in. I did this episode did it for me. I like all of the complaints that I feel like I have levied over the past 10 weeks that we've been doing this. A lot of them were answered in this episode. Now, I only say that I hesitate to say that it's my tipping point because we there's a lot of setup that still happen that I need those payoffs for.
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But what have I been talking about? Well, where's Lamassay and the Kaminoans and what's going on with the clones? Boom, we got that answered. This reminder of, hey, Omega's a clone. Boom, we got that. Last week, I was like, why did we not get this payoff of Cid betraying them? We got mention of that, that they're not going to be with Cid. So there's just so much of that growth and development, it felt like the ball was rolling. And this also might be a personal thing of seeing the Zillow Beast back on screen was amazing to me.
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Because like Sue Hare mentioned, that is a whole arc in Star Wars, the Clone Wars, where they have to fight the Zillow Beast, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And then at the end, this is like the second season of the show.
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Well, yeah, they brought it back to Coruscant, but I went back and double checked. At the end of the last episode of the arc, Palpatine takes a scientist to the side and says, here's your new orders. I want you to go through with this without anyone knowing. And the scientist looks and says, wait, you want me to clone the beast? And Palpatine doesn't say anything. And he gets the sinister grin that is trademarked to him and just walks off screen. And that's how it ends.
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And this character's never mentioned again for the entirety of Clone Wars. It's that throwaway, hey, I want you to clone this. We might come back to this. And I thought it was gone forever. So to get that thread pulled from gotta be at least 15 years ago almost at this point.
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Um, is just awesome to me. So I feel so much resonating out of this episode that I'm like, they did it. They're bringing things together. It feels like this story is back. You know, we're talking about Tekken or not Tekken Echo, Echo and Rex at the end.
00:18:08
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If they keep up this momentum, like I said, it's the tipping point for me because they answered my things and gave me a little bit more to chew on. It's just if their track record is anything to go by, I'm not hopeful that next episode we're going to get those payoffs. And I think that's why I'm hesitating. I love the episode as a singular piece, but please make it a bigger piece of the puzzle.
Character Stakes and Story Expectations
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That's all I ask.
00:18:32
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Both of you said two very important things. Scoots, you said steaks. I had my dinner, so I'm not talking about food right now. Aside from all the character development that they're giving tech, I'm wondering, oh, there's a big monster in a scary tunnel. Is one of our heroes going to die this week? I didn't feel that at all this week.
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And Andrew, I share your sentiment of the excitement of grabbing something from Clone Wars and mentioning Rex, but because we've had so much fillerish nonsense that we're still questioning what it leads up to, when they mentioned Rex and Echo, I wanted to be excited.
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My instinct was like, make me care. Like, is their appearance going to matter or are you just going to do a one off and then go back to like the weekly adventures of the bad batch? They have the potential for the next few episodes to give me a storyline that I care about. But like, I have my doubts now on if they're actually going to be able to do it. Now I'm at the point where it's like prove it to me that you actually have a plan for the season and you're not just throwing out Disney XD storylines every week.
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Yeah. And I'm reminded like this whole conversation about whether or not the story thread is going to be continued or not. Like I certainly think with Dr. Hemlock learning about Omega, that's going to be followed. But in terms of like this Zillow Beast, I do remember a line, I believe it was Hunter to text said, Oh, just send that to Echo and Rex and they'll, they'll follow up on that. So then, um, I dunno, we'll, we'll see.
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But the other thing that came to mind as you were kind of like, you know, watching this and wondering about whether or not characters were in jeopardy and what the stakes really were. I did find myself, the camera kept focusing on this one Imperial Commando, the one with like the orange color accents. And I was like, why does the camera keep like going back to him and lingering on him for a little bit?
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And I was I was expecting some kind of character reveal, like maybe even crosshair until he spoke. And it was just, you know, Dee Bradley Baker doing his his typical clone voice there. And then I found out, you know, the whole point was just to like have this character that was like, oh, we saw we saw people there. We saw another party there and they left and got away. So the fact that the bad batch will be pursued in that regard, it was
00:20:53
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kind of a mixed bag for me. I was like, okay, that's why they kept going back to that character. But I don't know, I kind of wanted something more substantial there. Yeah. Yeah, like the Imperials being involved in that chase scene. It's one of those things where it's like, I caught myself just trying not to get my hopes too high for something impactful.
00:21:12
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Yeah, and I think all of your complaints are, you know, relevant and proper. I think I'm just still on the optimistic side. I don't know why it might want to be with you. And I think it might just be my love of the Clone Wars in
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general like I I think it might be just protruding that I'm holding out hope a little longer and Also, just trying to remember back like the first two seasons of rebels I was never really in the first two seasons of Clone Wars I was never really in so there is that bit of Filoni storytelling that I'm like, okay Maybe maybe there's hope of we get that character development and we get that little bit more to grab on to
Bad Batch Animation and Viewer Engagement
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But yeah, I can't argue anything against your points other than it's preference. I still had a great time. I think that's what's cool at the end of the day is that we could all three have
00:22:07
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relevant things to say that are all true like none of us can argue any of the others point yeah it's back to the the gunky episode where i was super excited and scoots didn't like it very much and you were in the middle it's just yeah yeah like it's star wars and i love it and like i know i like every time i start my little monologues it's talking about how incredible the animation is and i don't want to forget to say that because like again the lighting was incredible like
00:22:32
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They know how to build a horror scene. I just I just wasn't scared for anybody. This episode was gorgeous in that. And that alone holds my attention so well. And I just I know that they're capable of good storytelling.
00:22:48
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The first two episodes of season one, the middle two of season one, like the last two were absolutely incredible. We had our awesome crosshair episode. We had the two in the middle with Rex that I really enjoyed. So it's like, I know what you're capable of and I just don't want filler nonsense. Like just give me eight bangers or ten bangers, like with like one like slightly above exciting or slightly below exciting episode.
00:23:20
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It's just tough, man. It's tough. Especially because I feel like as us as animation fans, we have to defend it a lot. So when we have Bad Batch coming out in the midst of Obi-Wan and Boba Fett and Mandalorian and all that stuff, it just makes our jobs harder when they don't give us something to consistently defend.
00:23:39
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When we're having to defend it to ourselves internally as the three hosts that love animation, I can only imagine what, for lack of a better term, the common watcher is thinking. The people who are just casual Star Wars fans are probably not consuming this because we're having to force ourselves to hit play.
00:23:59
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They're binging it while they're cooking dinner or something. Yeah, I feel like that's your line because like you said, the lighting was amazing. That cold open knocked my socks off of that one commando running around. It was fantastic. And then Jimmy Simpson, he deserves credit for coming out and delivering just a sinister villain. He was the one that played Dr. Hemlock.
00:24:21
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And for any of you who have seen Westworld, he is a main character in the first season of Westworld. I'm not going to say who he plays. You'll have to watch the show and figure that out. But like just he has such just venom in every word that is coming out of that doctor's mouth. And the whole time I was like, I don't know who this is, but they're killing it.
Episode Pacing and Series Structure
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It's Jimmy Simpson, J.I.M.M.I.
00:24:45
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Yeah, if a lot of people recognize him from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, I don't know the character's name on that show. But he was also in like season three of House of Cards, I want to say. He played like a hacker where you got to see more of like a tortured performance from him. But I like Jimmy Simpson a lot and I had no idea that he was doing the voice there.
00:25:09
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Definitely appreciate that call out there, but Zuhar- I'm gonna be wearing my power. Okay, nice. Oh, he's a green arrow, excuse me. Oh, green arrow, okay. Zuhar, when you were kind of talking about like, you know, maybe give us fewer episodes and get to the point a little bit faster, I started like kind of going on this mental tangent where I was thinking about, yeah, what like-
00:25:29
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It reminds me of like kind of my complaint with some of like you know the marvel netflix shows when those were kind of like in full swing they always felt like they were a few episodes too long and now with some of the shows on disney plus it's like uh like six episodes it's too short it always feels like we're rushing to get to this finale so i know it's not you know cut dry every show is different and has to like
00:25:50
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find its own pacing and get there. But I'm finding that I think the eight to 10 episode range is really kind of the sweet spot. And I'm thinking of WandaVision. That was nine episodes. And that felt like perfect. Having been watching Game of Thrones here recently, most of them come in right around 10 episodes. I watched, now I'm forgetting the name of it. Was Vox 10 or 12? Well, Vox was longer. Vox was 12, yeah. Vox was 12.
00:26:19
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Well, and it wasn't even animation. It was Severance, Severance on Apple TV. Oh yeah. It was nine episodes and it was perfect. Watchmen on HBO Max, I think that was like a 10 episode season and it was a perfect season of television. Obi-Wan Kenobi was six. Yeah.
00:26:37
Speaker
Yeah, it was also six. I don't know what you're trying to say. Well, I, I know there's a lot of business things going on behind the scenes. But I really question why it wasn't shorter, because they are 120% getting overshadowed by the Mandalorian right now, if they cut off four episodes and finished last week, instead of crossing over with the Mandalorian, they
00:27:07
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be in a slightly better position than they are. I can guarantee that their viewership is going to be dropping due to the Mandalorian coming back. And that, that does suck. I am very surprised that the mastermind of the Disney schedule does not have every Star Wars Marvel thing mapped out so that they're not overlapping. We have five more episodes of Bad Batch. Correct.
Narrative Opportunities and Star Wars Lore
00:27:30
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Okay. Yeah. I mean, I hate to be like the joy kill of the episode, but at the same time, it's like,
00:27:37
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It sucks that we know the potential of the show and we just love the Star Wars universe and it's kind of like, put the resources into this that you're doing to Mandalorian. Give us the big picture stuff more often.
00:27:53
Speaker
I love tech, but I don't need any more tech character development episodes. I need meaningful storyline, please. Well, I'm okay with the tech character development if it like pays off in the big story. And I feel like it sucks. I just feel like it really sucks.
00:28:12
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Because of how much in our defense we've been able to come up with intriguing stories for them to tell They have laid the groundwork. They've proven it out. There's an entire story of hey Palpatine mysteriously came back. I wonder if he was cloned
00:28:27
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Let's just tell that story of these clones fighting against that cloning process and boom, there you go. Cut dry, you've explained away the weirdest decision you've ever made while making a good, intriguing show. Like, it's right there on a silver platter. I'm just trying to figure out why they're not taking it.
00:28:44
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Yeah. Shrugging to the most that my shoulder will allow me to do.
Listener Feedback and Episode Conclusion
00:28:47
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Yes. Hands up. Yeah. That was someone who wants to be positive. That was like, Michael Ogg shuts it down. I agree, though. It was a fun episode. We sung its praises for animation and stuff. But even the guy who enjoyed it is out of things to say. We have a lot of people who drop into animation deliberation when we cover specifically Marvel, DC, and Star Wars. So it's like, I really want to hear from those people.
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Thank you, first off, for coming back just to listen to us because we're covering this content, but are you happy with the series? Do you expect more? Did you expect less? What are your thoughts on this? Are we all in the same... I mean, the three of us already been in the same boat, but what boat are you guys in? What episodes have made you happy? What episodes have just really frustrated you? Are you happy with the progression of season two, or do you think it's not lived up to what we know Star Wars is capable of?
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I'm on the Black Pearl, personally, that's the boat that I choose to be on. As I'm just thinking about myself in like a rowboat going down the river by myself, just like, doo doo doo. Crap the frog just down the creek by myself. Though I was rewatching Attack on Titan and like Armin was just like in the little boat by himself. It's like, what are you doing down there? Don't you know there's ships going around? Then he turns to Colossal Titans. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get rekt.
00:30:16
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All right, well, sounds like we have exhausted everything we have to say about this one. Anything that we'd like to let the listeners know about plugs or upcoming appearances on other shows? So much animation to talk about. Please keep up with our episodes and make sure you're subscribed.
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Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing that I was going to say quick is just a schedule update for all of the listeners. We don't know when the episodes are all going to come out, but today we are recording for this Bad Batch and My Hero Academia. As always, currently our schedule is looking like Monday is going to be our recording for the premiere of Attack on Titan and the Demon Slayer movie. So get your tickets, see that over the weekend, and then we will have something coming out for you content wise next week, and then hopefully still do our normal Bad Batch My Hero recordings.
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And we'll figure out where Attack on Titan fits into this mess after. But there you go. That's what we're currently looking at over the course of the next week. Yeah, yeah, anime. Yeah, and we didn't have any feedback for this episode. So if you know the prompt for your thoughts on Bad Batch, or if you're watching Attack on Titan, or going to see Demon Slayer in theaters this weekend, please let us know what you thought so we can share your thoughts on the show. Animation deliberation podcast at gmail.com is the place to do that.
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