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Speaker: Welcome to Elixir Radio, a podcast brought to you by Elixir Media Co.
Speaker: I'm your host, Tanya and Jane, and the founder of Elixir Media Co.
Speaker: And together with my team, we are going to journey with you on this beautiful exploration of creativity, self-expression, business strategy, and what it truly takes to embody and revolutionize your entire brand, business, and life.
Speaker: This is a podcast for the revolutionary, heart-led, God-led leader, ready to rise, elevate, dismantle, disrupt, and lead with their edge, their unique God-led brand, their soul essence.
Speaker: Let's magnify the full magnitude of your inner power, your God-given energetic signature and gifts, all of it.
Speaker: There is no hiding any part of you anymore.
Speaker: And no, you are not confusing or too much, even if they said that you were.
Speaker: We, as Elixir Media Co., are here for those who desire to harness the power of their multidimensionality.
Speaker: It is time.
Speaker: It is your biggest strength.
Speaker: We see you.
Speaker: I feel you.
Speaker: It is time to play.
Speaker: It is time to create your own stage and be the showstopper and be in deep, sacred communion with the greater collective.
Speaker: Together, we all elevate and rise and revolutionize our golden age.
Speaker: All right, all right, all right.
Speaker: Welcome to brand new podcast episodes.
Speaker: Fall.
Speaker: Fall season.
Speaker: And welcome to just being here, being you.
Speaker: However you found your way here, I'm so happy that you're here.
Speaker: And this week, we have a treat for you.
Speaker: It is actual transmissions from the workshop that came to life, the seed came to life on the heels of my miscarriage.
Speaker: And this workshop finally came to the world in June, in the last week of June, and it was called God-Led Business.
Speaker: So today, tomorrow, and for the next two days in this week, you are going to hear daily episodes of
Speaker: from God-Led Business, my workshop that I teach and taught on all things team leadership, all things communication, integrity in business, ethics, a code of conduct, something that I often see has been missing in this world of online business and especially within the coaching space.
Speaker: This isn't to say that it doesn't exist.
Speaker: It just means that there have been
Speaker: a lot of occasions and a lot of times where people truly didn't feel heard or seen or witnessed
Speaker: And, you know, I would like to believe that those tides have been turning and changing over the last couple of years.
Speaker: And especially now, as we head into the golden age, we're coming back to the roots.
Speaker: We're coming back to the roots of who God called us to be.
Speaker: You know, we're coming back to love, to oneness.
Speaker: We're coming back to being in faith.
Speaker: We are called to rise in our faith, in our leadership, in our relationship with God.
Speaker: the relationship that we have with ourselves, with our team, with our families, everywhere, right?
Speaker: So this is a conversation that is very near and dear to my heart.
Speaker: We had about 16 or 17 students enrolled in this workshop.
Speaker: earlier this year, but it is my hope that by bringing this onto the podcast, you too, wherever you find yourself, will receive exactly what you need to receive from these transmissions.
Speaker: And, you know, I hope this opens up a dialogue for you and your leadership and your organization.
Speaker: with your clients, with your team, with yourself, with your family members.
Speaker: And come let me know what you think of it.
Speaker: Come riff with us on Instagram in our inbox at elixirmedia.co.
Speaker: But for now, enjoy.
Speaker: Hello, hello, welcome to day four of God-led business.
Speaker: June and I are going to riff podcast style meets like how we always riff and talk about everything.
Speaker: Clearly the theme for everything upcoming is rebirth, change, reformation, revival.
Speaker: Any vibes of the bypassing that happens in every space is done.
Speaker: We're not doing that.
Speaker: We're not taking that with us.
Speaker: So for those of you tuning in, say hello.
Speaker: Today is day four.
Speaker: You guys have been here.
Speaker: And I know this is landing and hitting a nerve because my DMs are also full with some questions and just feedback and experiences.
Speaker: So thank you for sharing so vulnerably, so openly.
Speaker: Thank you for trusting me to hold that space.
Speaker: And thank you for just coming here and having that conversation for yourself.
Speaker: It truly is that.
Speaker: This is June Chang.
Speaker: She's the founder of Leviosa Marketing.
Speaker: And she has been, I don't even have words to describe it.
Speaker: June has been my hype woman.
Speaker: I call her Mama June because she goes into Mama June mode.
Speaker: The moment I start going into self-sabotage mode, as most of the service providers will go sometimes,
Speaker: Juna's been there.
Speaker: She's bestie.
Speaker: And not just like warp bestie or whatever, but like truly it was one of the greatest gifts ever.
Speaker: that God could send me has been the relationships, the friendships that I've made at every stage of my life and at every moment in my life.
Speaker: Last year, it happened to be June and Amanda.
Speaker: We met in a mastermind with our mutual mentor.
Speaker: And for me personally, that was the best gift to come out of that mastermind because these girls got me through the 2022 that I've already shared with you.
Speaker: inevitably June and I just continued to gravitate closer to each other and just really share we're very aligned when it comes to our faith and how we operate and function it's like I don't have to finish my sentences like we're at that mode where she'll read
Speaker: She could send me a meme.
Speaker: We talk in memes.
Speaker: Like that's a lot of language and we totally get each other.
Speaker: But all of that laughter and jokes aside, she is a phenomenal entrepreneur, CEO, mama, a badass, badass person at ads and strategy and operations.
Speaker: And it is why as Elixir continues to grow, like that's truly where I see her.
Speaker: I shared with y'all over the course of these last four days how I knew who my team would be, but I never really allowed.
Speaker: for them to come in.
Speaker: And I never really allowed for that space until the last quarter.
Speaker: And it happened so organically.
Speaker: And so for me, I see June almost being like that doe director of operations or whatever.
Speaker: Like, I'm like, doe, is that how they say it?
Speaker: Anyway, but I see June being that, like that wrangler meets strategist meets like, yeah, let's just get shit done.
Speaker: Like where's everyone at?
Speaker: And optimizing that.
Speaker: She simplified the hell out of my brain and systems last year.
Speaker: Of course, I'm not using ClickUp at the moment because I have PTSD from ClickUp.
Speaker: But the other system that she did set up for me, I love it.
Speaker: I haven't moved from it.
Speaker: It is so simple.
Speaker: I don't go create manual contracts anymore.
Speaker: Can't believe I was doing that.
Speaker: Don't even get me started on that.
Speaker: I was like, what is this, Hanya?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I would create manual contracts for everything and then send everything manually.
Speaker: And I'm like, no wonder I feel so exhausted.
Speaker: So June came in and literally kicked my ass.
Speaker: And that's also her acronym in her business of what is it?
Speaker: Ads, systems, and strategies.
Speaker: Yeah, and so June essentially has done that in my life as a friend and also as a fellow business owner.
Speaker: And if you haven't hired her, please hire her, but also she's mine.
Speaker: But no, seriously, go hire her, like truly.
Speaker: Today we're going to talk about DEI, human capital, and
Speaker: Profit equals human capital first, people first.
Speaker: Like that conversation, I thought of doing it alone and I'm like, no, this needs to be a discussion.
Speaker: This needs to be almost like a podcast riff in an episode.
Speaker: I don't even know where to start.
Speaker: However, let's start with your experience in the online space.
Speaker: Tell us about your start as an entrepreneur and then what led you to where you are right now?
Speaker: I started being an entrepreneur because I was pretty much depressed in corporate banking.
Speaker: And I couldn't imagine doing that for the rest of my life while trying to raise a family in the middle of postpartum depression.
Speaker: I probably had more postpartum anger than anything.
Speaker: But it was like, it's a real thing, guys.
Speaker: But it was just like so sick of it.
Speaker: And I was like, the worst thing that could happen is I fail.
Speaker: And I just ended up having to do corporate banking for the rest of my life.
Speaker: And I was like, you know what?
Speaker: I think it's better to just try.
Speaker: And then when I tried, it was, it came so easy for me just because I also have a sales and marketing background.
Speaker: And so my...
Speaker: I guess, going into the entrepreneur space, I did it through Facebook ads first.
Speaker: And then I realized in order to have good Facebook ads, you need a good funnel.
Speaker: In order to have a good funnel, you need to have a good backend to make sure all those leads are being, you know, optimized and organized and met and have good client delivery and all these different like aspects of it.
Speaker: And so it organically led for me to go from
Speaker: Facebook ads all the way to like full service digital marketing and then now operations.
Speaker: So I feel like the biggest takeaway from it is to just whatever kind of sparks your interest and the opportunity is in front of you, don't be afraid to take it.
Speaker: In terms of human capital,
Speaker: I think it was a little bit interesting for me because I never liked the hourly aspect of it because it reminded me too much of corporate.
Speaker: And so I always knew I was going to go through packaging.
Speaker: My first ever Facebook ads package was $500 a month, which is absolutely crazy now to think about it.
Speaker: But even then, people were telling me that I was charging way too much as a beginner.
Speaker: Because there are people out there charging like $100, $250.
Speaker: At the time, now it's $500.
Speaker: That's not even going to take care of my kids' daycare tuition.
Speaker: I had a very different mindset when it came to
Speaker: I guess valuing my time because it wasn't a matter of, oh, like my worth is in how much I'm charging, but rather this is the amount that I need to get the heck out of here.
Speaker: So I never took it personally when someone was like, I can't afford it.
Speaker: I'm like, all right, next person.
Speaker: So it was very just in the beginning, it was very just like a machine almost, I guess that's from a corporate background.
Speaker: But then as I started
Speaker: leveling up and realizing how much valuable my time was that's when I was like really picky with who I wanted to work with don't get me wrong I still get it wrong sometimes but it's a lot less likely that I'll choose someone to come invite into my space now rather than like before when it was like a shit show so now it's a lot cleaner energy for everybody around
Speaker: Which is why, if you probably heard my podcast with Tanya before, that's why I have that 30-day clause in my contract, my three-month clause in my contract.
Speaker: So I don't ever want to tie someone to me just because...
Speaker: It's just going to be on YouTube.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: Yeah, no.
Speaker: And I get that.
Speaker: And I think that's the part.
Speaker: I love that part about you and like your business model that you have, because it's still like you mean business, but there's also like business is human.
Speaker: And it's if it's really not an aligned fit, it's not an aligned fit.
Speaker: It's like staying connected.
Speaker: in an unhappy marriage, but like you guys are resenting each other, but nobody's really free to do what they want to do because they're so worried.
Speaker: And like that truly, I feel like client relationships, it is that because it is a commitment.
Speaker: It is a relationship.
Speaker: It like, you have to have such deep reverence for not only the work that you do, but also the work
Speaker: that they do because depending on what kind of service you provide, especially if you're writing copy or if you're creating graphics and you're designing something,
Speaker: It's not very cut and paste or cut and dry.
Speaker: No offense to any of my system strategists in here.
Speaker: If you're connecting things on the back end, it's not as heavily energetically heavy.
Speaker: However, if you're interacting with a client on a daily basis and that's sucking the life out of you, it doesn't matter what you do for work.
Speaker: You got it like that situation has to be exited for both people involved.
Speaker: And it doesn't have to be a bad thing.
Speaker: It could be a peaceful situation.
Speaker: Excellent.
Speaker: So I want to segue into, there's so much company culture, value and human capital.
Speaker: I think we've seen, I've talked quite a bit about this the last couple of days.
Speaker: I've alluded to my experiences in it.
Speaker: I've shared some insights.
Speaker: What do you feel and what do you find?
Speaker: One of the questions that I got actually from a friend who's, she used to do social media management before, like a couple of years ago, and then she stopped because she got burnt out.
Speaker: But she just asked me this.
Speaker: How do you still provide quality service without undercutting your value in terms of charging?
Speaker: Like, especially if a business doesn't have that budget, but you really want to work with them.
Speaker: Like where, at what point, what's the fine line of fair compensation, but also not you're undermining what you bring to the table?
Speaker: That's a good question.
Speaker: So for me, I know that I charge a little bit more than what's considered the average retainer, but that's because I know I'm better than most of them.
Speaker: But I think in this kind of situation, if it's a client that you really want to work with, maybe it's like very similar values or you really support their cause or whatever it may be.
Speaker: At that point, there's, I, this is,
Speaker: one of two ways that you could do it.
Speaker: You could either bring down your price to the average price or work for free.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: And the reason why I say this, but I tend to work for free rather than cut down my price because I find that I get resentful if there's any price involved that I had to cut.
Speaker: Whereas if it's for free,
Speaker: it feels more of like an energetic exchange that I'm like bringing to the world kind of situation, right?
Speaker: So for me, unless, if it's a situation where I'm unable to cover my bills, I would not take the client because as much as you really want to work with that client, you need to like make sure you're covered first.
Speaker: And I think that's the whole thing with like,
Speaker: Airplane safety and all of that, you need to make sure you put the mask on yourself first before even your own child.
Speaker: And I think that also, it seems like an extreme example, but I think you need to do that also when you're exchanging services for money.
Speaker: Because if you're able to cover yourself, and I think resentment is actually more insidious than guilt, because resentment becomes this like very poisonous thing that like bleeds into every part of your life.
Speaker: Whereas guilt, I feel like
Speaker: It seems it's like a lot more passive, I feel, at least for my experience.
Speaker: So I would rather feel a little bit guilty saying no than trying to forge on with the relationship and have so much bitterness and resentment that piles up.
Speaker: Agreed.
Speaker: Agreed.
Speaker: No, it's a perfect segue into and it's the whole part of do you still continue to give when how much do you continue to give when you really don't have much left?
Speaker: Why do you draw those lines?
Speaker: So
Speaker: One of the things that I talked about in Godlet and one of the main reasons Godlet even came about, and I've shared this story, I call it the bathroom story, but I remember like sharing this with you and with Alison, like the anger and just, it wasn't anyone's fault.
Speaker: It was mine in a way that I didn't hold my boundaries.
Speaker: I didn't establish the, I held what I held because that's what my system could have held at that time in survival.
Speaker: And I know that there's so many service providers, not just in North America, but there's service providers on the other side of the world that are really good at what they do.
Speaker: But for some reason, like we have this culture in this space that has, it's treated service providers like indentured labor.
Speaker: And
Speaker: What are some ways that you could stop perpetuating toxic business practices, regardless of what industry you come from?
Speaker: It doesn't matter if you're a coach, a mentor, a healer, I don't know, a graphic designer, an agency owner.
Speaker: I've seen some agency owners do some pretty shady things.
Speaker: It's not like there's an angel and a devil.
Speaker: Like there isn't.
Speaker: There's good and bad apples everywhere.
Speaker: What is the first step to stop perpetuating toxic business practices, especially for anyone that has felt
Speaker: guilty for speaking up or they feel like, holy shit, if we speak up, our jobs are on, our quote unquote jobs are on the line.
Speaker: We're not going to get more clients.
Speaker: I know because I've been that person and I know that I'm going to ask, I'm going to be that friend for all of us right now and ask that question out loud.
Speaker: What are some ways to stop that from both ends?
Speaker: I don't think I ever really stressed about it, to be honest with you.
Speaker: And I'm sure that's like a little bit different than what a lot of people might have expected.
Speaker: But I tend to just treat people the way that I want to be treated.
Speaker: And so same thing with if someone comes up to me and tells me their price for their packages, I'm not going to be like, okay, can you discount it?
Speaker: what's the lowest that you're going to go?
Speaker: And I'm not going to be like, what country are you from?
Speaker: Like who, where's your education?
Speaker: What's your, the most that I will ask is what's your portfolio and maybe what's your experience.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: But other than that, like all those other answers don't really matter to me in terms of that.
Speaker: And I don't care if it gets, if it takes you five hours to get it done or five minutes to get it done, as long as it's done in the
Speaker: in the standards and the quality that I, I want.
Speaker: So I feel to me, like the whole thing about like race and cultural that does play a part, I feel like in terms of communication, but I think in terms of disrespecting someone as a human being, like, I think
Speaker: Every human needs yourself.
Speaker: Every human deserves.
Speaker: In their country, like $2 is like $2,000.
Speaker: I don't give a fuck if $2 means $2,000 over there.
Speaker: Like there, I want to know what you think your price should be.
Speaker: And as for me, I'm going to pay it or I'm not going to pay it.
Speaker: It doesn't matter if I think it's too much or too little.
Speaker: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: Okay, this is awesome.
Speaker: But do you believe profit first is people first?
Speaker: That's hard.
Speaker: I'm talking from a company culture standpoint.
Speaker: Of course, human first.
Speaker: Of course.
Speaker: However, I'm going to put myself first.
Speaker: And in that situation, if it means that I'm paying everyone so much where I don't
Speaker: even have profit for myself, then it means that I might have to cut people off, right?
Speaker: Or I'm going to have to start doing things on my own until I get the enough profit where I could hire them back.
Speaker: Or it just means I have to bust ass to bring in more clients, right?
Speaker: One of two ways.
Speaker: That being said, is there a way to treat people a lot better when it comes to terminating contracts?
Speaker: Definitely.
Speaker: And I think that's where a lot of people miss the mark that leaves a bad taste in their mouth that it just like poisons the industry.
Speaker: And then the lack of professionalism comes into play and people just think that's why it's okay to like ghost people or avoid contracts or invoices and
Speaker: not even send them a message.
Speaker: Hey, I read your message.
Speaker: I'm busy.
Speaker: I'm going to get back to you in 24 hours.
Speaker: Just simple courtesies that gets missed so many times just because they think it's okay to just ignore it and eventually go away sort of situation.
Speaker: It just snowballs or snowballs, like whatever that analogy is until it goes pop and it bursts open.
Speaker: No, I agree though.
Speaker: I think
Speaker: I think for me, like people, I don't even know why that came through when I was writing the copy for God-led, but it was the heart for me, at least the heart of profit first equals people first is, yeah, okay.
Speaker: Like you got to look at your bottom line.
Speaker: You got to look at the business needs.
Speaker: You got to examine all those things, but there's a way to do it.
Speaker: Like you said, any very...
Speaker: You can be kind about it.
Speaker: And Gary Vee says it best, like kind candor.
Speaker: Can you be absolutely transparent and honest about things?
Speaker: Yes, that doesn't mean you need to be an asshole.
Speaker: And that doesn't mean you need to be cruel about it.
Speaker: You could be kind or compassionate because again, like you don't know what someone's going through on the other side.
Speaker: They may not want to tell you everything because again, it's we're maintaining professionalism.
Speaker: There's so many different sides to
Speaker: showing up in work and I feel like one thing flows into the next right um from a team perspective I feel and from a company culture perspective I feel like
Speaker: The best leaders actually foster leadership within their team members where it's not the horse and pony show where it's, ha, like it's, I don't know, like it's the Tanya show and you guys are all my plebeians.
Speaker: No, it's not that.
Speaker: It's we're all here together to grow together.
Speaker: I only grow when my team grows.
Speaker: I only grow when my clients grow.
Speaker: So it is in my best interest and in my client's best interest that I help them grow.
Speaker: and vice versa.
Speaker: It's that reciprocity, right?
Speaker: And that goes hand in hand with refining your craft and stuff.
Speaker: But I also feel like if you just care about people, like genuinely care about them as a human, regardless of whether you end up working together or not, or whether you renew your contracts or not, just genuinely take an interest in their life, they're actually more
Speaker: inclined to go above and beyond and take the initiative for your brand and company.
Speaker: And this isn't just something in entrepreneurship.
Speaker: This is something that I witnessed in corporate.
Speaker: I know you've probably witnessed the same thing in corporate.
Speaker: I remember I had a manager during when I first started out working at the doggy dog hedge fund firm.
Speaker: I call it doggy dog.
Speaker: Cause that's how like that world, that's what that world was to me.
Speaker: I had never went to school for any of that.
Speaker: And there I was, but anyway, I
Speaker: I remember when I first started, I had this manager.
Speaker: His name was Alan.
Speaker: Also not my husband.
Speaker: That's how we bonded actually in my interview.
Speaker: I was like, my fiance is Alan too.
Speaker: Anyway, this manager, I think he, he transferred over to Ireland after six or seven months since I joined.
Speaker: But for the first seven months that I was there,
Speaker: The entire team, like our team had one of the highest metrics for performance for everything.
Speaker: Like, and if you work in finance, any sort of finance, I don't care where that's everything, right?
Speaker: Like your performance, your KPIs, your how many things are you transferring?
Speaker: What are you moving in revenue?
Speaker: He transferred and the guy who was our supervisor became manager.
Speaker: And with this guy, it felt like it was a dog and pony show.
Speaker: It felt like a popularity contest that every member of the team started to almost feel like they had to vie for attention, vie for approval, but like, why?
Speaker: What approval?
Speaker: You're doing your job.
Speaker: There were practices that, there were things that happened that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker: Long story short, this second dude got let go, but the team also was performing poorly under his leadership.
Speaker: And the reason being that
Speaker: He actually wasn't open to discussion.
Speaker: He wasn't open to due process and diligence, even when brought forth by team members.
Speaker: It was the I know it all syndrome.
Speaker: And if you feel like it all as a leader, like it's not going to work.
Speaker: It's not going to work.
Speaker: Like I always people, I don't want to be the smartest person in the room.
Speaker: I want my team to be hella smart than me.
Speaker: There's so many things I don't know.
Speaker: I know what I know and I will go and be curious enough to learn everything and I want to learn everything to understand it because we don't ever want to sell something that we don't understand or don't have someone that knows it really well to do.
Speaker: But you should want people that are smarter than you around you.
Speaker: That's where I'm going to end my riff on profit first equals people first.
Speaker: Like just care about the woman.
Speaker: The last part that I actually wanted to segue into is the being equitable.
Speaker: And equity for me personally has so much more to do with than doing.
Speaker: race, like race is one part of it.
Speaker: Being a woman is one part of it, but that isn't the only thing.
Speaker: I think equity has so much more to do with, I don't know, are you equitable in your pricing?
Speaker: Are you equitable in how you hire?
Speaker: Are you equitable in the people in your spaces?
Speaker: Are you being intentional about learning?
Speaker: Again, all this boils down to intentionality.
Speaker: I'm curious.
Speaker: Where do you stand with the tokenism and appropriation?
Speaker: Because I'm so sick of it.
Speaker: I'm so sick of it.
Speaker: And at the same time, I like for me, I'm like, if I know someone has taken the time to understand and learn and study and do their own embodied inner work about it.
Speaker: okay.
Speaker: I remember I had a yoga teacher.
Speaker: I almost actually never attended a yoga class taught by any Indian women.
Speaker: That was a revelation to me, at least where I was located geographically at the time for school.
Speaker: And then eventually moved back to the GTA in Toronto.
Speaker: And then I saw all sorts of yoga teachers everywhere.
Speaker: But that's the first thing that comes to mind.
Speaker: Where do you stand on those types of
Speaker: practices like when it comes to like inner beliefs biases on pricing hiring all of that just free riff on it freestyle riff on it I feel like it's always like that hot button because people could easily crucify you for the things that you might have said wrong it came out wrong yeah but I think it's just easier obviously to want to be around people
Speaker: who look similar to you, who have similar cultural values or backgrounds or whatnot.
Speaker: And sometimes that may mean like for me, I want to be around Asians maybe, right?
Speaker: Or it may mean that I want to be with people who might've come from, I don't know, middle income now, right?
Speaker: Or maybe it might mean that I want to be around someone who's from California.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: It could be like very various, varied things.
Speaker: That being said,
Speaker: I think it's always, like you said, the intention behind it.
Speaker: Like, am I showing off the fact that I'm connected to various people versus, hey, here's my friend, Tanya.
Speaker: She's Indian.
Speaker: And she also happens, she's Indian and she is a creative director.
Speaker: Or is it like, hey, this is Tanya.
Speaker: She's a creative director.
Speaker: And she happens to be Indian.
Speaker: It's like, it's very different.
Speaker: But then, and I think it's also very interesting because like people will also mention like, technically you can't be racist towards white people because...
Speaker: it doesn't exist, but it's also, but it does exist.
Speaker: And I've seen that happen too.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: So I feel like it needs to be this like middle ground because I, I said this to you before, if someone comes in front of me with the same exact background and same exact experience, and the only thing that was different between the two was that one was a male and one was a female, I will obviously pick the female.
Speaker: And if they're both
Speaker: female and one happened to be white and another one happened to be a person of color, I will probably pick the person of color.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: So in that way, am I being equitable?
Speaker: Maybe a little bit, but that is given the fact that they're both coming from similar experiences and backgrounds.
Speaker: If the quote unquote white person h ad a more extensive background, then I will pick the white person.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Yeah, I think it boils down to that.
Speaker: It's like valuing I feel like when you go based off of skill set, you will automatically pick merit.
Speaker: Yes, tokenism or like just taking in your own biases.
Speaker: I try not to even look at the name or the profile picture.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, I think it's only recently that I started to like put my picture and name and everything in my business resume.
Speaker: But in corporate, there's a good reason why in corporate, if any of you have ever worked corporate jobs, which I feel like most of you have at some point, you don't put a photograph on your resume.
Speaker: Like you don't because you want to avoid that bias.
Speaker: Like you want to avoid, I can't, I will count.
Speaker: I remember the amount of times I've gone into an interview and like they look at my name.
Speaker: And so it's like, Tanya, okay, is she Russian?
Speaker: No, I'm not Russian.
Speaker: Anya, like it's derived from a Russian name because my dad liked Russian literature and all that jazz, but it's not.
Speaker: And then they look at my last name, Marias, and that's the Portuguese ancestry.
Speaker: So then they'd be like expecting someone Latino, Portuguese, like that ancestry.
Speaker: And then I show up and they're like,
Speaker: Oh, and they wouldn't say it as much as they would be.
Speaker: You could have said it.
Speaker: What are you supposed to be?
Speaker: I'm like, hi, I'm Tanya.
Speaker: And then we'd talk.
Speaker: And eventually they'd ask me like, what's your background?
Speaker: We're just really curious.
Speaker: I'm like, I'm Indian.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: No, you can't be.
Speaker: And I'm like, but I am.
Speaker: And I live here in Canada.
Speaker: And yes, we speak really good English.
Speaker: Yes, I have.
Speaker: Yes, there are camels in Dubai.
Speaker: And also it is the most innovative metropolis of this world.
Speaker: Yes, there's AC in Dubai.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And so that was the type of stuff that I would deal with, like here living in Canada.
Speaker: But I also understood moving here at 13.
Speaker: It was like, you can't fault people for it.
Speaker: If you haven't traveled outside of your country, like you don't know.
Speaker: And yes, you can say that there's Google and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker: And I get it.
Speaker: I get that part too.
Speaker: Like you should be aware of all these things, but let's face it.
Speaker: A good chunk of humanity doesn't even have the internet.
Speaker: First of all.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Or a passport or the means to travel.
Speaker: It doesn't matter what your geographic zip code is.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: And then, so I feel like there gets to be that middle ground where
Speaker: You will feel it.
Speaker: Your body will feel a resonance of that didn't feel good.
Speaker: I think that was a jab or that was a neg.
Speaker: That didn't feel good.
Speaker: Trust that.
Speaker: But most of the time people are well-meaning and they're just genuinely curious.
Speaker: That's been my personal experience.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Both in the online space as well as wherever I worked within corporate and stuff.
Speaker: And yeah, someone once told me that because of your light eyes that you get hired easily.
Speaker: And I'm like, what?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: And maybe, could there be truth to it?
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: Maybe that's a privilege.
Speaker: I know that's a privilege if I go back and visit India.
Speaker: Like, that definitely gets more favored over there.
Speaker: But my experience overall, I've had both sides of the experience.
Speaker: And I can say that biases, rejections,
Speaker: exist within our own sub-ethnic communities as well.
Speaker: Let's not get started on that shit.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: And then it also exists in the, in the bigger world and picture.
Speaker: So at the heart of it, we're all human at the heart of it.
Speaker: We're all created in God's likeness.
Speaker: We're created out of love from love.
Speaker: And so it's like coming back to that oneness in your business, in your brand, in your relationships, your leadership,
Speaker: that'll always lead you home.
Speaker: It'll never stir you wrong.
Speaker: That's where I'm going to end for today.
Speaker: Do you have any last passing words, June?
Speaker: I think it's always just, if you have an off or negative feeling about something, no matter how small it is, trust it and just don't feel like you're letting an opportunity slip by.
Speaker: Because there's always going to be something better.
Speaker: That's more for you.
Speaker: I'm laughing because that literally just happened.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: But I feel like.
Speaker: Of course you would say that, but it's true.
Speaker: I feel like it's so true for so many people because we always are so frantic to hold on to that one opportunity that's in front of us that we forget to be like, it checks off like nine out of 10 of my requirements, right?
Speaker: But why not hold yourself to a better standard or higher standard and say, no, I do want all 10 in order to be that perfect fit.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Hey, I'm going to, that just inspired like a little God-led commandment, like for service providers.
Speaker: And this is probably going to be a carousel at some point as it always is, but it's literally thou shalt not subscribe to Tinder style, fuck boy style client relationships or team relationships, period.
Speaker: No wishy-washy energy in any area of your life.
Speaker: I kid you not, the moment I ripped out the wishy-washy band-aid from a particular situation, as deeply I revere and respect and I'm so grateful for that entire opportunity and that playground because that's where I really pushed my creative edges.
Speaker: The moment I ripped that apart, everything else just started to flow.
Speaker: It was weird, but it's not because God moves in the most mysterious ways and
Speaker: A month prior, I was courting another opportunity that was very similar.
Speaker: And I poured all my heart and soul into it.
Speaker: We went on five or six dates, did all the things, whatever.
Speaker: And then all of a sudden I was like, what?
Speaker: Wait, what?
Speaker: You're not ready to commit yet?
Speaker: I'm sorry, what?
Speaker: You're actually going to go on other dates now after you told me that you're ready to like, we've planned the wedding.
Speaker: We've identified the hours.
Speaker: Like we've even bought the house.
Speaker: We've charted everything.
Speaker: That's how that felt.
Speaker: And so the last couple of weeks, I was like, what is happening with my life?
Speaker: True story.
Speaker: Like I'm very real with my team behind the scenes.
Speaker: Like it's like they literally, this is what they, which is what you get.
Speaker: There's no facade or hiding.
Speaker: So yeah, make room for the beautiful spaciousness, the gifts, make room for your best self.
Speaker: to shine.
Speaker: It doesn't matter whether you're a service provider, a mentor, a healer, like you are here because you have a calling.
Speaker: You started your business because you felt a calling.
Speaker: It is a very spiritual calling.
Speaker: And that is huge.
Speaker: Here's where I will end.
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