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Adrian & Simon review director Christopher McQuarrie’s Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning. They also examine the history of the Mission Impossible franchise and rank the movies in the most haphazard way possible. Additionally, Adrian reviews horror film Bring Her Back and Final Destination Bloodlines; while Simon talks Andor Season 2. They also converse about the upcoming Warner Brothers Discovery uncoupling, Star Trek Beyond writer Doug Jung’s Mass Effect series at Amazon, childhood refrigerators with sentience, and the numerous announcements at Netflix’s 2025 Tudum event. Stranger Things, Frankenstein, and Squid Game; OH MY!
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Review of Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning
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This episode, we review the Tom Cruise starring action film, Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning, while breaking down the legacy of the Mission Impossible franchise.
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Oh. While breaking down the legacy of the Mission Impossible franchise in the most concise way possible. I feel like it was a little bit obnoxious, but you know what? I like listening to you, pal. I like listening to you.
Netflix's Tadum Event Highlights
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And on top of that, we examine the ins and outs of Netflix's recent Tadum fan event while discussing Stranger Things Season 5, the final season, Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein, Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein, and Squid Game Season 3. I still said it weird.
00:00:46
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This is like our fourth fourth attempt of reading this, and I said it weird again. Frankenstein. don't know why I said frankgenstein is it Frankenstein. Frankenstein. Frankenstein. It's Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein.
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Sorry. Well, least I don't have to read the word coyote Coyote.
Warner Brothers Discovery's Split Plans
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And we take a look at the unmerger, the unmerger, Adrian, of Warner Brothers Discovery. My name is Simon Eadie. My name is Simon Eadie. Your name isn't Simon Eadie. No. Are you serious?
00:01:16
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name is Adrian Pinter. This the fourth time. I was just reading. Why are you reading it? Yeah, was reading Do want change it in the document for you? No, it's fine. It's fine, dude. I can change. No, hold on. i'm goingnna change it.
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many times going to read my name? And you didn't do it ironically. You did it for real, I think. Okay,
Introduction to Split Focus Podcast Episode 112
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go on. My name... Sorry. My name is Adrian Pinter.
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And I'm Simon Eadie. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 112. Hello.
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have to be at audience My good buddy, my good pal, we are we're a bunch gamers, and this has been an eventful couple weeks, I must say. i just wanted to i just wanted to ask you, I'm curious what you think.
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We've had now...
Gaming Showcases Discussion
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um many showcases, many games shown. What was your favorite showcase out of the video game showcases that happened? And what was your favorite? What was your favorite game that was shown? What was your most hyped up video game? So just to give context to audience members who obviously they're tuning into a ah film and TV podcast, don't maybe understand the power of E3, but this is E3 season.
00:02:49
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You know, E3 is very dead, dead and gone, but yeah, the The big publishers, the big video game publishers like like Microsoft and like PlayStation and like, well, normally Ubisoft and various others, they like to make announcements during this time of year. Every year.
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but Like coincidentally, it's when E3 used to happen, that big conference for gaming. but But yeah, E3 is dead and now we're left with... these announcements from various publishers what did you think what was your favorite of the game shows i'm just super curious we didn't watch them together so i'm just i've just been thinking about it what what do you what do you think yeah and just just to clarify i did invite you to watch it together but you said no i don't like you i don't want to be around you you so you smell is what you said to me and i was like that's kind of rude sometimes I suggested deodorant and you said no. So I guess that's life. You know it gives me a rash.
00:03:44
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You know it gives me a rash. But um yeah, ah I really enjoyed this past weekend. My favorite showcase, Simon, was probably the Microsoft showcase.
00:03:56
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Ooh. And you're a PlayStation gamer. So look at that. I am. But the best part about that, Simon, every game they showed, it's coming to PlayStation. Eventually, probably. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:07
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Yeah, so um I think that was just like pound for pound the best looking showcase. It was a little unfortunate that they ended with something that looked really cool. And then it was like, this is actually Call of Duty Black Ops 7. And I was like, oh, it's kind of a bummer. Here's something interesting about this like Xbox showcase. okay i was listening to like I was listening to like an Xbox podcast. You listen to it too on occasion, I assume. But Defining Duke?
00:04:32
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Mm-hmm. And it's interesting because they didn't think it was that strong. What? And they, and they titled, they actually titled their end name of the episode in which they go through the announcements as a slow year. Yeah.
00:04:45
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Oh my goodness. Which is pretty cool. but But not inaccurate in comparison to the last two years, which I think Xbox had a better showcase the last two years. Especially last year. I think the last year was their strongest showcase.
00:04:58
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um it was It was excellent. This one year was good, but I i don't think that in any way was it a bad showcase. I think it was it was excellent. But it was pretty funny to see that. I was like, what? They didn't think it was bad. They just thought it was like...
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average is what they kind of interest it was as they started the podcast up i didn't finish the episode so maybe maybe they convinced themselves that it's actually better than they initially went in with uh-oh oh i'm still here you you cut out briefly you just you became i'm not sure what's going on with our recording software zen caster here but we keep cutting out and i don't know what's happening because my wi-fi is fine so i don't know same with my my wi-fi is fine as well and i'm hardwired but to be fair simon It might be me. Who knows? My computer literally crashed and I fixed it due to my software skills.
00:05:45
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But um bringing it back to Microsoft that my PC is, yeah, I don't know I respectfully disagree with them. Again, I didn't really hear their point of view. I don't really remember the last couple years showcases, but to me, this felt the strongest. And maybe it's simply because...
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I know that all these games are coming to PlayStation now, whereas before there's this level of disinterest because I'm like, oh, OK, cool. They have a lot of these exclusives. I'm not going to buy an Xbox. I could play it on PC, but I rarely if ever play on PC.
00:06:16
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Yeah, so I think this year was kind of that awesome and all these games look fucking awesome. It's coming to PlayStation. So that's a good call out too, because I feel like the other problem with the showcases of the last two years is that they did this thing where they show off games that are nowhere close. They have this, yeah they have this problem. And this year they didn't quite do that. They, they pretty much showed us games that were,
00:06:39
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more imminent which i prefer that's actually what playstation prefers to do as well so when you look at their state of plays they're like people criticize the state of place constantly but the state of place have games that are going to come out within the next typically 365 days typically not always there's a few that are like oh this is this big thing coming soon and then they kind of tease it for later but i i I much prefer that. Yeah.
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yeah So I'm, um'm yeah, that I don't know. I, I felt like the Xbox showcase was, was tighter. It was weird because they were complaining about how they split up, and had like the big executives come out and talk about various things as well at various times in the showcase. But I'm like, that's what they've been doing for three years. I don't know. Maybe they're just biased in a weird way. I don't know. But I do find that the last two years, they had really big hitter showcases. that They had a lot to show. In fact, this year, they didn't show a few things that I was shocked they didn't show.
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Gears of War Fable. I think those are the two big ones. The big one. Gears of wars of War. E day. Sorry. The. break Well, yeah. Yeah. Not the. The pre big game game that's coming and they didn't show Forza, but they teased it And it's like, what was that?
00:07:48
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And they didn't show Starfield. which is crazy because they definitely have a DLC cooking and they haven't really updated it this year. It's just like the big space game for those who don't know. Anyway, this is getting off track because we are a video game podcast, but sorry, we're not a video game podcast. We're a film and TV podcast. We're switching it up.
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Episode one, before we do switch it, switch it back to film and TV. I do want to ask though, what was your most anticipated game that was in announced? It's tough. I think over the over the course of all all the showcases. Brand new announcement?
00:08:18
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Brand new announcement. No, It could be anything that's hyped up in this in this thing. Anything that's hyped up. I think I know what it is. It's going to be a brand new announcement anyway. Let's be real. Yeah. So, so yeah. like Ironically, I think my favorite announcement was from my least favorite showcase, and it was Resident Evil 9 being announced.
00:08:33
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Yeah. And coming very soon in February of next year. I'm very excited about that. As you know, i I'm more of a recent Resident Evil fan. When I was a kid, I actually liked the Milo Jovovich movies. I watched the first three, um but I never really played the games. and then I got into it more recently, um you know, within the past 10 years, give or take a bit.
00:08:52
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And then just kind of fell in love with the franchise. And now I'm kind of day one there every single release. um So yeah, I'm super excited for Resident Evil nine. It looks really cool. Capcom, um which is the publisher and you know the mysterious developer under the Capcom wing that is making it.
00:09:10
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um I mean, they they have an amazing engine. It looks really good. And I love that sort of horror aesthetic. I'm curious what it means for the story. Yeah, I'm very excited, man. That's probably my favorite.
00:09:21
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Honorable mentions, though. ah Silent Hill F. We knew about this, but it is like a horror game set in Japan in, I think, the 50s. And you play it as, like, this schoolgirl in this...
00:09:33
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you know back in the day in in japan it looks terrifying really awesome and then final one from the xbox showcase itself because that silent hill elf was actually from the playstation show um clockwork revolution which looks really cool i feel like thats like a type of game that you like though it reminds me a lot of bioshock infinite and that's why i think it's scratching an itch and i really love bioshock him i mean it's like bioshock infinite because it's steampunk but the style of game is going to be nothing like bioshock infinite theoretically i'm curious what the style of game more like it it looks like more like um a game from obsidian like yeah like um but or more maybe deeper than that i liked in exile's last game wasteland 3 i actually oh there you go um which is really cool and and i played the outer worlds um
00:10:26
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And you liked it. Yeah, I enjoyed it enough. well they Those are actually, funnily enough, two games I played on my PC. um There you go. Now I don't have to. Now it's coming to PlayStation. Probably. It's exciting.
00:10:37
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Well, Outer Worlds was always coming to PlayStation. Yeah, I mean, ah Clockwork Revolution, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool, man. Yeah. What about you, dude? Again, I'm i'm yapping your ear off. I'm yapping away here.
00:10:49
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My favorite showcase was also the Xbox showcase. I think they just hitter after hitter. It was also like a very well paced show. I thought and like there was not a lot of filler. Although that's again what the defining dude guy said that there's a lot of filler. don't understand. It's very weird. I was like, what, am I in an alternate reality? Like, this was the best showcase.
00:11:05
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I like the state of play a lot, too. But again, it's funny. the state these like The state of play, I feel like, in terms of the types of games I play, probably had less games that I play, but I thought it was a really strong showcase. But people think that the state of play, which is PlayStation Showcase, was bad, which I don't understand either. I find that bizarre.
00:11:22
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We live in a bizarro world, is what it is. like Everything is bad, apparently. Everything, no matter what it is. You didn't like Summer Games Fest. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I felt like i was going to sneeze. I didn't want to see the microphone.
00:11:35
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That's fair. But yeah, but you didn't like Summer Games Fest, but I thought that it was just as strong of a showing as they've had. Like, like ever, because the Summer Games Fest is never that good.
00:11:46
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Yeah, I think like this was probably their best one. Like, I didn't care that much. i thought it was, oh this was good. i yeah I just, again, it's not really that like, especially the end announcement. I think that was the best announcement they've ever made.
00:11:58
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yeah like I don't know if they've ever done it like that big of an announcement at Summer Games Fest. Jeff Keighley, the host of the show, also hosts the Video Game Awards. and he tip and Canadian Treasure. Yeah, Canadian Treasure, Jeff Keighley. He typically like leaves, I feel like, his best announcements for the Video Game Awards. And he kind of really stacks that show, but doesn't necessarily stack Summer Games Fest. Anyway, point is, like the Xbox showcase the most, I feel like it felt like there's a lot of things up my alley. And as you said, all those games are going to come to PlayStation, which is my primary game.
00:12:28
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Console primary mode of play. Yeah, medium. Yeah, very good. And so my but my favorite trailer, the thing that impressed me the most, the game that I was i'm most excited for from the overall Summer Games Fest time period, the two week period here, it's actually from the Unreal 5 tech demo.
00:12:45
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The Witcher 4 looks unbelievable in that tech demo. No, it is a tech demo. Obviously. I mean, obviously it's called a tech demo, but you have to believe that a lot of what that is, that game is in some capacity will be translated into the the game. Otherwise they'd be fools.
00:13:05
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like It gets a vertical slice as they call It's, yeah it's, it's something to show off the game engine. and The Witcher, Three was the last game that CD Projekt Red created, the developer.
00:13:15
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No, Cyberpunk. Sorry, the last game in that series, the Witcher series. Oh, sorry. Yeah. and That they created for the for the Witcher. um And then now the Witcher 4 is coming. But you're right. Yeah, Cyberpunk was their last game, obviously. But both those games, the Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk, were on a different engine, not on an Unreal Engine. So this is their first big Unreal Engine game.
00:13:39
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So it's pretty exciting. and yeah It looks pretty awesome to me. It's crazy because they showed that it was playing on a PS5 as well. They specifically pointed that out. They specifically pointed out that it was it was pointed out somewhere that was 60 frames per second.
00:13:52
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Yes. um I saw that as well. Yeah. so You saw the horse's muscles. Yeah, which I loved. I love that idea. And I imagine that, at the very least, that will be in the game. Because this the idea is the devil's in the details. And I think they're focused on making sure that they make a more realistic and more immersive open world than ever before.
00:14:12
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That's the theory. Anyway, so we'll see. Yeah, most certainly, man. Most certainly. I'm glad that we're on the same page, but i thought that ah that Unreal Showcase was pretty neat as well. um I can understand why people would be like, well, there's no way this is is exactly how the game's going to look like. And it's like, yeah, probably not.
00:14:29
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I mean, it's a tech demo. Speaking of, again, the same network of podcasts, we listen to Sacred Symbols, and if you listen to them argue about that for like 20 minutes, they're like, They're like so disappointed. They're like, well, yeah, I'm not really taking it seriously. It looks fine, but who cares about it? Like over and over again, they said it like six times. And I'm like, yeah.
00:14:48
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oh Nobody had said it was the game. It isn't gameplay anyway. But yeah, The Witcher is interesting too because they got ah Liam – not Liam. No, it is. Yeah, Liam Hemsworth playing Geralt of Rivia in the next – In the next whole season, series season of the Netflix show, which is interesting. Yeah.
00:15:05
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And actually, oh actually, I should throw that in my notes. I had, we're going to talk about in like our split focus special segment later in the, in our episode here, we're going to talk about the Netflix to do the event. And I actually had a list of things that were missing from that. And I forgot to draw this down. That's one of the big things that's missing.
00:15:23
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The, the Witcher show wasn't there from my recollection. which is strange. But yeah, anyway, I'm curious what that's going to be because there's been lots of screenshots of Liam Hemsworth. Also, people are clowning on Liam Hemsworth. They say he doesn't look like Geralt or because they were used to, I think it's just because they're used to Henry Cavill.
00:15:40
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I don't know. This is a bit strange. There's like almost Dr. Who-ing Geralt of Rivia. But I just don't agree that you can just clown on the guy for a screenshot. Why does everyone do this? They did this with Ellie, like Bella Ramsey's Ellie. It's like, like let's take a bad screenshot of this actor and then yeah and and then claim that she can't do the role.
00:15:59
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I don't know. It's just ridiculous. People are haters, dude. No, no. They love to hate. yeah they want to see things fail too it it makes them pleasure what is that through them is that uh what is that what call that sch schadenfreude or whatever yeah schadenfreude yeah they take take pleasure and in in others failures yeah i think so i think that's what it is is largely that's the internet largely and the algorithm obviously is is fed by feeds i am yeah anger and hate okay hatred all right well side yeah we uh
00:16:32
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I just wanted to bring up something. we We went to a movie recently and we're going to talk you die a little bit later in the show. You and me and my fiance, we went to go see mission impossible in theaters and the simplex theater. I always want to set the record straight before we jump in, before we get into the, the news.
00:16:47
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tickets. I booked the tickets. Before anyone else in the theater. Okay. Cause I meant to say this to you before we left. And I think you might know where I'm going with this. Yeah. I booked the tickets and then, you know, we went and sat in the theater. We were one of the first like trios to sit in the theater at all. There's a few people behind us when we went to go sit down and then everyone just like filters in. And this is like the, this is like some kind of problem with, again, I've made this theory before when you buy tickets on the cheap Tuesday night,
00:17:15
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For some reason, people are the least respectful out of all moviegoers. And I think the less expensive of the ticket, the the more disrespectful. is is I think there's a correlated graph with that. But regardless of that, it's weird to me that I booked the tickets.
00:17:30
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There's like a full empty theater.
Movie Theater Experiences and Etiquette
00:17:33
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And this old couple with literal masks on, like they were wearing N95 masks because they're, I guess, afraid to get sick. We're afraid to get others sick.
00:17:42
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well I don't know which one, but either way is bad. They booked the tickets right beside you. And I don't know why, because on the other side of us, there was free space. Below us, there was free space. And I was almost like, should we just move down a row? And eventually people filtered in and they were covering that row too. But I was i was very confused.
00:18:02
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And I don't know what you thought about that, but I just want to set the record straight. I'm sorry that that happened to you, but I booked the tickets first. There was like one other couple behind us and that was it. Yeah, it's okay. Like, I don't know. There there are older people. i just kind of accepted it.
00:18:16
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I imagine. Like, don't know. Why though? If they're afraid of getting COVID or something, why would they book tickets right beside when there's mostly an empty theater? It was like 50% empty. Yeah. Do you think that they booked them? Or if they just went there and they're like, just give us the tickets at the concession?
00:18:32
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I don't know. I like, and don't know. Maybe this is me being super ageist, but I'm just like, maybe they just simply, maybe they just simply did not know how to pick seats properly. And I didn't want to hold it against them. oh they're They're older folk. I just, I felt bad. i was like, oh, and I did like the casual, like where you smile at old people. So they know that you're a good person.
00:18:51
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and Right. Mm hmm. I'm just there eating my popcorn, you know, just crunching in their ear. Probably. I kept on cracking my knuckles as I do. Simon, as you know, yeah and the old guy kept on looking over at me like, brother, why do you crack your knuckles like that, though? In situations like that, that's because I just need the instant relief.
00:19:14
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but Then why don't you just fart in public? That's an absurd reasoning. I mean, sometimes I do. don't. yeah I toot in public. i Usually they're silent. Loudly?
00:19:25
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You do it loudly? Sometimes they'll slip out.
00:19:29
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Loudly. Sometimes, man. I can't, I can't. People don't look at you like, what the hell is this guy? This guy's not following any basic etiquette of society. They probably do. They probably do. But again, you can't help it. It slips out sometimes. I'm not going to, you want me to blow up like a balloon? I'll start floating away, Simon, if I hold in my toots.
00:19:47
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how it works all right i don't think that's how works but regardless of that yeah well you go into the other room to fart in your own house so you don't fart in front of your fiance that's crazy to me it's polite i do that's nuts i'm gonna be honest steve you that is nuts and i i will stand i will die on that hill ah that's fair i'd be tooting everywhere in my house man doesn't matter it's my home Yeah, good for you.
00:20:13
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Yeah. To each their own. But that's in your home. I'm talking about in a movie theater where you're cracking your knuckles loudly. I even turned around like, seriously? just it. You crack your knuckles on camera sometimes. You can catch it in the freaking mic in in our episodes.
00:20:26
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It's too I can't crack them right now. I cracked them before the show. It's too much. I'm not a got to do it, dude. it hurt so it's and It's discomfort. It's discomfort. But I don't crack my knuckles at all. I don't have discomfort. You're causing your own discomfort.
00:20:38
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Well, it's been ingrained in my little fist. like chewing on your nails. It's like biting your nails or something. It's like discomfort. I used to chew on my nails back in the day and then I i got out of it. Yeah.
00:20:49
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But I used to smoke cigarettes, Simon, and I don't smoke cigarettes anymore. So just let me crack my fucking knuckles, okay? I see. what you're saying is you can get out of cracking your knuckles as well eventually.
00:21:01
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maybe I could, but I don't want to. Let me have my vices. i love what you said, because you didn't quite listen to what I said. I guarantee that's what happened. um Okay. Anyway.
00:21:11
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Yeah. Oh, no I was going to say also. So Martin Scorsese recently said in an interview. Did you see this? I think was for The Guardian or something. He was asked about the movie going experience. He says he doesn't go to his own movies and doesn't go to movies in the theaters anymore.
00:21:25
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That kind of explains why he's on Netflix and Apple TV Plus for his recent movies. But anyway, ah he said... He doesn't go there. You know why? Can you guess why? Based on the topic of conversation? Because I'm about to bring out ah but up another thing that happened in the theater right in front of us.
00:21:39
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People are on their phones. He said basically theater etiquette. People don't follow... like ah These kids these days don't follow proper etiquette. It's basically what he said. It's true.
00:21:50
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Without being... old man voice but yeah that's that's what he said it's interesting because again the guy in front of us eventually again they did fill in the seats in front of us so that first row at least in front of us and the guy was on his phone in the immediate beginning of the movie like it was it was crazy because they because the guy wasn't on his phone and then the movie started and he pulled out his phone and it's not like he was on like responding to a text message he was scrolling through fucking twitter dude i was like what are you doing man
00:22:21
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It's crazy. I was like, if this guy kept on going, where I was going to whack the back of his head and said, get out. Speaking of addictions, I mean, that guy's addicted to his phone. Am I right? like that's it I agree. It's nuts.
00:22:33
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I agree. I can see where Scorsese's coming from, but I feel that that's strange because that's you're being a hypocrite a little bit because he was one of the advocates for theater-going experiences, wasn't he? Maybe that's when he stopped doing that because he's like, I don't even go to the theaters. Why do I care if my movie's on Netflix?
00:22:48
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You know what I mean? Yeah. Because that might have happened. I don't know. Wasn't he like, oh, the movie theaters are Marvel movies. They're just theater. They're just parks. Well, whose fault is that?
00:22:59
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His. It's his. Because he hasn't made a good movie in years. Oh, he's made great movies. is good I'm just kidding. umm I know he has. Yearly, almost. At least maybe maybe not yearly, every three years. so How often does he release a movie nowadays? but yet When was the last one he did? The Killers of the Flower Moon?
00:23:16
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Yeah, I think that's the last one. I heard that one was good. i didn't watch it though. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Okay. I think I like The Irishman better as a more recent fare he's made.
00:23:27
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What's my favorite Scorsese movie? What's your favorite Scorsese movie? I have no idea off the top of my head. I don't know. Let's look. Let's look at his filmography. I feel like I'm forgetting which one because there's one that i always comes to mind. Oh, I think Wolf of Wall Street is pretty great.
00:23:45
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I do like that. I do like that. movie I haven't watched all of his movies. I'll be totally blunt with you. Um... I think I like the Irishman quite a bit. His movies are often fairly long.
00:23:57
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I watched Silence is a very intense movie, but it's slow. Oh, my favorite movie from him, I think, is The Departed, actually. I think The Departed is really excellent. okay Yeah. or Taxi Driver is really good, too.
00:24:12
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Oh, the ripoff of Joker? Yeah, hit right. Yeah, of course. It goes in that order. Yeah. Yeah. Games in New York is pretty good. I'll be honest with you. haven't seen a huge amount of his movies.
00:24:24
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I recently saw Goodfellas within the last two years. That's pretty great too. So I guess the Wolf of Wall Street? just think I would pick that apart for me. but Oh yeah, Wolf Wall Street for you? Yeah. Cool.
00:24:36
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I watched Shutter Island as well. Did you like that one? thought it was mine. Okay. That's fair. Cool. Okay, let's move on to the news, Adrian.
00:24:46
Speaker
A few quick bites of film and TV industry news that occurred over the last two weeks since our last recording.
Tim Miller's Marvel and DC Film Interests
00:24:54
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Thank you for the sound effects. I appreciate it. um So the first piece of news here that I wanted to talk about just briefly I know if you saw this, but Deadpool 1 director Tim Miller, he wants to direct the Marvel X-Men movie that's theoretically coming up.
00:25:10
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And or the DC film, The Authority, that James Gunn has not seemingly hired a director for that we know of. um That seems to be having a tough time getting off the ground, considering that that was like in the beginning of his initial DC slate.
00:25:23
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Matthew Vaughn in 2023 also mentioned that he wanted to potentially direct The Authority 2, which is cool. He got a bunch of... Which is interesting because Matthew Vaughn directed X-Men movies in the past.
00:25:35
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Right. And connected, dude. Right. And Matthew Vaughn also, feel like, I mean, technically kind of Tim Miller kind of directed an X-Men movie too. But yeah. um Yeah.
00:25:47
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but But yeah, Matthew Vaughn is interesting because he kind of makes he already made a kind of mixed misfit team-up movie. And that seems to be kind of what The Authority is. Not really a misfit team-up movie.
00:25:58
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The Authority seems to be, from my understanding of it, The Authority is like a bunch of anti-heroes who come together. And they they don't it's basically the ends justify the means as ah as a team. Mm-hmm.
00:26:11
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So like they'll eliminate like ah a leader of a country. They're like, well, will it'll fix the problems kind of thing. And it's kind of, it sounds like a really interesting concept. I have a feeling though, just based on James Gunn's love of this property and the fact that had never heard of it until he talked about it, I have a feeling he's going to direct it.
00:26:29
Speaker
Because I don't know if he's ever going to be satisfied with whoever he gets. Because it seems to be struggling to pick ah get a so get a script going. So we'll see what happens after Superman. I think when Superman is done, think there'll be a sigh of relief out of James Gunn and Peter Safran's mouth. They're like, oh man, we did it. If it's good.
00:26:46
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i' I'm assuming it's good though. Because those trailers that they've been launching, man, they're very good. I didn't watch the most recent one, but i'll I'm sure we'll see it in theaters soon. Mm-hmm. I don't know about you, but you you mentioned Actually, no, yeah, we were in the theater for Mission Impossible and you were like, did you see the Superman trailer? I'm like, yeah, we talked about it. Or you you said, did we talk about this?
00:27:04
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yeah um Yeah, on the podcast. And we did. but But it is an excellent trailer. this I guess the second trailer or the first official trailer non-teaser. You know how the naming goes with trailers. so Dude, I'm just going to say that you cut out about 25 times. Isn't that wild?
00:27:20
Speaker
Yeah, keep on cutting out. How broken this is? I'm looking at it. I'm like, oh, geez. I am almost like, do we pause and do I just like reset my router? I'm wondering if I should maybe, I think it's computer issue. Actually.
00:27:33
Speaker
You think my computer is an issue? It could be my computer. So we'd have to both pause, start over. Let's keep it. If it dies at any point, like for legitimately, that's more than like, cause we're cutting out for like one second or two seconds. Okay.
00:27:45
Speaker
So we cut out for more like more than like three seconds. Then yes, we will, but we'll, we'll both go back to the drawing board. I'll download this first. I don't know. What is this? A fifth of the podcast? And then we'll go from there. Yeah. Okay. So any, any, thoughts any other thoughts on that, on the, the authority or, um, it's interesting. You want to direct it? Cause Tim Miller's actually, I meant to say this, Tim Miller's track record,
00:28:08
Speaker
Not that many things. He hasn't made that many things. People love love Death and Robots. i don't know if you've watched that show. Never. And then there's the the Secret Level show that's on Amazon that he's ah he his studio made.
00:28:21
Speaker
And then, of course, he directed the first Deadpool movie. And he directed that, I think it's Terminator a Dark Fate, which I don't think was reviewed very well. I don't think so either. Yeah.
00:28:32
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Matthew Vaughn has a better track record, but his most recent movie, Argyle. Yeah. Right. And the movie before that people didn't like, but I did. I thought the King's man was great. So I don't know.
00:28:44
Speaker
I'm confused. I don't know what, I think I'd probably choose Matthew Vaughn if I was going to choose one of these fellas to do it. But whoever's the most passionate, I feel like might. Yeah. I think that's fair.
00:28:55
Speaker
ah Like it's interesting that Tim Miller is like, I want to direct the two movies that are rumored to have someone attached to them already. He's, he's, he's going for jobs. This guy. No, I don't think there is anyone rumored to be attached.
00:29:08
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Oh, with with the authority? Yeah, did you see that? Because there might be a writer attached. yeah It seems like there's a writer writing a script right now, and they're waiting for it to be done, and once it's done, they're going to hire a director. That's what looked like.
00:29:20
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I think it's maybe because also James Gunn doesn't want to hire a director because he might want to do it himself. that Understood, yeah. So I'm curious about that, but a writer, I think, is what they have. I don't think they have a director from what I've seen.
00:29:31
Speaker
Unless it's a secret, unless we don't know. Yeah, I guess out of these two, i would like to see Matthew Vaughn directed. I like most of Matthew Vaughn's movies that I have seen. Like I like X-Men First Class quite a bit.
00:29:43
Speaker
yeah um I like the the first Kingsman movie. I didn't watch the maybe I did watch the second one. I don't know. Yeah, you saw it with me in theaters. Yeah, but it was fine. I think there's some funny bits in it.
00:29:54
Speaker
um And then I didn't watch the Kingsman. um Nor have I watched Argyle. There's a really like crazy scene in the second movie. Like crazy. Also, Pedro Pascal's in that.
00:30:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Which is is really cool. Because that's like the that's like after he played Oberyn in Game of Thrones. And then he started to like just his career started to like skyrocket. It was just like getting off the ground. And now it's in the stratosphere at this point.
00:30:19
Speaker
but there's a crazy, there's a crazy scene in that like a sexual scene in that movie. i don't know if you recall that. I do. Yeah. It's wild. The finger. think back on that and I'm like, wow.
00:30:31
Speaker
yeah they We both work in a retail, well, we did before work in a retail store. And there was, to where i came in did I come in or did I learn about it?
00:30:42
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That somebody had put on the golden circle, not knowing that that scene was in it in the in the in the like the retail store that we work. It was electronics store yeah on one of the TVs. And I was like,
00:30:54
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are you serious? I was shocked. I'm like, you can put maybe some borderline, like some rated R movies. And as long as you know exactly what scenes are there, yeah but you got to be very careful.
00:31:05
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You got what? Bounty Superman director's cut. That was, yeah, that, that one's not, I almost surprised this rated R. Yeah, me too. But yeah, I was like shocked when I heard that. like are you serious?
00:31:16
Speaker
I always had a rule about not putting rated R movies on there just because you don't want to get caught. Because you're not technically, I don't think you're even supposed to put movies on the TVs anyways, because it was a licensing agreement and you shouldn't do that anyway.
00:31:28
Speaker
So I was like, when I heard the golden circle was on, I was like, guys, please don't do this. ah But anyway, okay, cool. Moving on. Let's look at the the showrunner for...
00:31:43
Speaker
The new TV show adaptation of Mass Effect, the video game, which is coming to Amazon. this The showrunner for this, the person who's just been tapped for it, just been hired on, is the show ah not a showrunner but the writer for Star Trek Beyond, Mindhunter, which I love, and Chief of War.
00:32:02
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His name is Doug Jung. and He is now apparently the showrunner. For the TV show adaptation of Mass Effect.
00:32:12
Speaker
You love Mass Effect. You just finished the trilogy. Yeah. Recently, like within two years. Yeah, within two years for sure. And yeah, so I know that you're interested in this because you also sent me this article. what do you think of this?
00:32:24
Speaker
I find this kind of neat. Again, I'm not familiar with Doug Jung's like previous... ah things that he's done. But I know you speak incredibly highly of Mindhunter.
00:32:35
Speaker
Yeah, it's not his show, mind you. He's just a writer for that. Of course, that's David Fincher's show. Yeah. It is cool that is writer for it. It doesn't matter. Yeah, 100%. I think it matters because I think the best part about Mass Effect is the writing, right?
00:32:48
Speaker
So getting someone that is an experienced writer in. Yeah. um I know he is being the showrunner, but... I would hope that he understands the source material quite well. And again, he knows how to write good quality scripts. So he's going to be overseeing what's going to be put out there. i think, yeah, I think this is a good match at the end of the day. And he has, I guess, some, I mean, he's familiar with sci-fi because he did Star Trek Beyond. I have no attachment to Star Trek. I don't know if Star Trek Beyond is viewed in a positive light, but, um,
00:33:18
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he he obviously has some has some ah background knowledge of this thing. So, yeah, I'm curious. I don't know if it's going to necessarily be good. I hope it is. um I'll definitely watch it when it comes around because I think the world of Mass Effect is really cool. And the you know this the setup for it, um essentially being that like the like humans far in the future are discovering face space travel and then they find an alien race and their first instinct is to...
Doug Jung as Showrunner for Mass Effect Series
00:33:47
Speaker
fucking attack the aliens as opposed to like have a conversation with them. And there's like a years long war. And then eventually these like alien races, you know, bring in the humans into like this galactic federation of sorts. But, you know, they were kind of against it for such a long time because ah they thought humans were stupid.
00:34:05
Speaker
And to war hungry. And I think that's just such a cool setup. And i think you can do a lot with it, even if you don't follow like the the game story, because I don't necessarily think you have to because it's such a cool universe. um You know, Drew Carpichon is the guy that wrote.
00:34:22
Speaker
the I think the first two Mass Effect games he was the lead writer on. And then he also did like a Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. So this guy, again, he knows sci-fi well and created an awesome sci-fi world. So I hope Doug Jung you know takes it and runs with it and does a really good job.
00:34:37
Speaker
You don't really have an attachment to Mass Effect though, right? You haven't played any of them yet? No. Yeah. So is there something that you would want watch or you feel like you would probably save yourself for the game? I probably play the game first. We'll see how long it takes to get off the ground though, right? You know, sometimes you tap a showrunner and then it gets like, everything just gets shuffled around five times.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. the Doug Jung's most recent thing is Chief of War, I think. It's the Jason Momoa Apple TV Plus show about like the war, like War Chief.
00:35:10
Speaker
What? I thought you were going to say about the war chief. No, it was about like wars in Hawaii. It's Tamora Morrison too. Like, but what was Interesting. Like Boba Fett's not it. The direct actor who plays Boba Fett. The character Boba Fett is in it. Yeah, yeah.
00:35:26
Speaker
Played by the same actor. Yeah, he's like way back in time in the, in like wars in Hawaii and somehow Boba Fett came down with his jet pack. It's in the 18th century apparently. Four major kingdoms of Hawaii were in a state of war.
00:35:41
Speaker
That's crazy. So this is based on real history? Yeah. Oh, cool. This is Apple TV, correct? Yeah, Apple TV. Interesting. That's cool. Quality is pretty solid with most Apple TV things. so It is.
00:35:55
Speaker
It is indeed. I thought he was a showrunner for this, but it doesn't look like he is. When I clicked around here, I'm seeing that he's not the showrunner. and Again, it's funny. There's like the the little blurb that comes up in Google. It tries to tell you something, but it's just not.
00:36:08
Speaker
It doesn't look to be correct. Anyway, whatever. yeah He was an important writer, I think, on Chief of War. So that's neat. Yeah. But yeah, where did the... What did you name the... Carpichin? What is his name? The writer for Mass Effect? Where did Drew go? where did What happened to him?
00:36:22
Speaker
He's writing a game right now. People love those two Mass Effect games and they love Knights of the Old Republic in terms of the stories, part of and partly yeah mainly why they those games are so beloved. Do you know where he's working now and what he's working on?
00:36:33
Speaker
so Yeah, there was that game. It was announced a couple years ago. it get canceled? No, and it's still coming out. It looks a lot like... Oh, is it the one with Matthew McConaughey?
00:36:46
Speaker
I think so. Or is that not know what I'm thinking of? there yeah think go They were announced at the same time. I know what you're talking about, and I can't remember what it was. what it was Game with Matthew McConaughey is what I'm typing in. What are you typing in?
00:36:58
Speaker
Drew Garbushin, upcoming game.
00:37:02
Speaker
McConaughey. Exodus. Yeah, Exodus is his game, but is that the game? um have no idea. I don't remember. Exodus it's harder to look up I feel like yeah so I I think with Exodus which is funny because Exodus it I think they made a secret level um episode about Exodus which is kind of neat bringing it all back to Amazon and everything like that um I I don't know if this was Matthew McConaughey the lead writer for the upcoming science fiction RPG Exodus is Drew Karpashen Oh, sorry. That's what I was saying. I didn't realize it. I thought you were talking about Matthew McConaughey.
00:37:36
Speaker
Sorry. Oh, no. The first thing I typed in is is game with Matthew McConaughey. And it's in again, it's Google AI certificate with a grain of salt. It says Matthew McConaughey is a major part of the science fiction RPG game Exodus.
00:37:48
Speaker
Okay, cool. then Yeah, sorry. were We were saying the same thing. Yeah, that's good. We both looked up the opposite thing that we required. We kind of wasted a lot of time talking about what we looked up, but just good it would have been perfect if we were more coordinated. alas Look at us.
00:38:02
Speaker
Look at us. couple of coordinated fellas. Yeah, sure. All right. Well, let's see here. I guess that's it for that. I am excited for it generally because I'm curious to see how I wanted to see the percentage of quality game adaptations increase over time.
00:38:21
Speaker
It seems to be like massively increased from 20 years ago. 20 years ago, video game, film and TV adaptations were bad. Just generally. You could just say like, just blanket bad.
00:38:31
Speaker
Some of them were okay. And and most of them were bad. Final Fantasy 7 had been children. bad shit oh that was good there was another one that was really bad right there was a final fantasy one that was uh spirits within that wasn't based on any of the games it was they just had the final fantasy branding on it sure i mean that you could same could be said for the super mario brothers movie with uh yeah with his name hopkins but it still had uh mario and louis louis yeah but i mean was it by name yes
00:39:04
Speaker
ah Yeah, by a name. is it What's his name? It's like the two different Ellie's from and Ellie, the last of us game versus Ellie, the last of us TV show. Hoskins, not Hopkins.
00:39:18
Speaker
Hoskins, Bob Hoskins. Yeah. And John Leguizamo. Did you ever watch that movie yourself? Did you ever see that movie You haven't seen it. I've seen it like seven times. For fun?
00:39:29
Speaker
As a kid. I didn't know that it was bad. i was so young. I was like four, five, six. That's when I watched it. Yeah. it's like, yeah, don't know. It wasn't good.
00:39:42
Speaker
would you want But I thought it was good as a kid. I thought, you know what? i used to think I was like interpretive art or something. it was like some kind of weird. It's like it's so wacky that it's like it's almost fun to watch because it's like, what how would you interpret this character? Like Bowser's just like regular dude with a weird bald head.
00:39:59
Speaker
at the age of four va you're looking at this and i'm like this is interpretive art yeah well no you're one smart little four-year-old and i was like oh this is like a spin on it i like accepted it i just accepted it you know you're not jaded when you're young kid you just don't there's no reason to judge things that harshly so yeah yeah i was just watching i was like wow that's so weird these they got like space boots that's that's not a thing in the in the game you know yeah i don't know it's what I don't know. It's wacky.
00:40:28
Speaker
It's wacky. But regardless of that, let's move on now. Adrian, to story number three. Quick news bite. Quick bite here. number Number three for the two-week period that I've chosen.
00:40:40
Speaker
And this one's more complex one, but I'm curious to see what you think about it. Three years after the merger between Warner Brothers and Discovery, so to create Warner Brothers Discovery, Warner Brothers Discovery has now set the split into two separate publicly traded companies. The primary company appears to be the studios and streaming division, which will be led by current Warner Brothers Discovery CEO David Zaslav, while the second will be led by current Warner Brothers Discovery CFO Gunnar Wiedenfels.
00:41:07
Speaker
And largely... ah will be composed of both the Discovery Plus streaming service and the large collection of linear TV networks. So this is a strange thing. For anyone who hasn't been paying attention, this the initial merger was in 2022. Warner Brothers Discovery merged.
00:41:24
Speaker
And then David Zaslav, who was in charge of Discovery, took over the overall company. So you have to think that David Zaslav was a big...
00:41:37
Speaker
proponent, he wanted this to happen. Theoretically, and was he was he was probably a driving force of the merger. huh But now he's splitting it and he says it's necessary and needed because it will make things more, which I actually probably I argue yeah agree with, like it will make things more specific and therefore.
00:41:57
Speaker
Like network TV is not really the same as. The studios division. In fact, it's kind of neat because the studios are being split off. It's almost like the creatives and then a different type of business is not related. So it's kind of cool. Oh, the gaming division, by the way, is on the studios and streaming side.
00:42:15
Speaker
Just as a note. um But even Discovery Plus being on the other side, on the global networks division, like Split, is quite strange because that is a streaming service.
00:42:27
Speaker
So you're you're meat basically unmerging. Anyway, what do you think of this? How many thoughts? I found this some wacky. i Again, because this is like this is almost like a flip-flop sort of situation, how they made HBO Max. It yeah And now, or sorry, they made HBO Max Max and now it's back to HBO Max. There's ah there's a lot of flip-floppiness amongst this Warner Bros. thing.
00:42:52
Speaker
yeah um So it's it's funky. And i I feel like I read somewhere that David Zaslav, like a lot of the debt that Warner Bros. Yeah. Yeah. It's from the linear networks. is Is from the linear network. So he's kind of taking the company, all the good shit, quote unquote.
00:43:08
Speaker
yeah I know the gaming division is not doing well, particularly, but he's taken all that and then putting all the debt onto the other company. Yeah, the the parts that have debt. He's not putting the debt on it. that it's just like it's It's like a weight. It's like a counterweight. The linear networks are getting... More and more people are cord cutting. They're not buying linear TV anymore. And so it doesn't make sense to like weigh down the overall studios and streaming services with the debt from linear networks. So they're just basically siloing off the linear networks and splitting off the company, which they're goingnna going to be two separate publicly traded companies. So they're essentially two companies.
00:43:47
Speaker
And so, yeah, it's but it it makes more sense when you think that Warner Brothers had owned linear networks as well. So it's not like it's just Discovery splitting off again. Yeah.
00:44:02
Speaker
Discovery, to be fair, Discovery Plus is actually the most profitable part of that whole other side. But yeah, I feel like isn't Gunnar Wiedenfels being screwed over? It's weird because David Zaslow, this is what you were kind of mentioning there, is that David Zaslow took over the good part again.
00:44:19
Speaker
So he took over the big company. It seems like he wanted to be in charge of like Warner Brothers. It seems like what it was. And then he finally got his wish and he got control of over Warner Brothers. Isn't that what it looks like? i mean, what else could it be?
00:44:33
Speaker
I don't know. that's That's my assumption as well. it just Yeah, it seems like there's some like crazy internal politics. I'd love a TV show based on this or or a movie based on this all whole extravaganza.
00:44:46
Speaker
His name's Aslob. Fast talker, you know? He yeah seems like he's got the he's got the goods in terms of his charisma or something. i don't know. Maybe he's great. Or he's a backstabber. Definitely is a backstabber. Definitely. yeah What do you mean definitely? Definitely.
00:45:02
Speaker
The interesting thing is like people, I've heard many things about people people saying that David Zaslav has just been bad, but I don't really necessarily agree with that. I think like he took over when HBO Max was kind of just starting and HBO Max is largely pretty successful. I just saw the numbers like it's 150 million subscribers. It's like, how?
00:45:19
Speaker
We don't even have that in Canada. Like, is that just in the United States? how many How many nations is HBO Max even in? The comparative number is Netflix is 300 million. Netflix is at the top.
00:45:31
Speaker
But like you have 150 million subscribers. I don't know. That seems high. HBO Max subscribers. If you can do me a favor and look up how many nations HBO Max is in. That's looking up right now for you, partner.
00:45:44
Speaker
Yeah, 150 million for sure what they claim. Yeah. So you can watch HBO Max in select countries. It doesn't say. Oh, It's not. it says, oh, maybe that's the AI overview. Maybe that's not right. again Let's say it's in your 150 million. Yeah, four days ago, Hollywood Reporter said HBO Max to launch in 12 countries in July.
00:46:08
Speaker
is that the 12th? But then it says as total as wd Streamer closes in markets. so oh Really? Why do we have it? What the heck is that?
00:46:20
Speaker
Because of Crave and Bell. Yeah, Bell's stopping it then. I prefer to have HBO Max probably. Dude, me too. Fuck Crave. I have the basic Crave as well. Everything's in French.
00:46:30
Speaker
Why is everything in French, Simon? ah yeah honest you having an issue? Yeah. I hate it. really annoys me. Netflix is in, apparently, according to Google AI, 190 countries.
00:46:42
Speaker
That's crazy. Oh, this is in Wikipedia, which I trust more than Google AI, which is our terribly ironic. Because what did we what do we learn in school? That Wikipedia could not be trusted. Wikipedia has never been wrong in my my experience. And i i double check I've historically double-checked Wikipedia because I was always worried that it would be wrong because that's what I was told by every teacher I ever had in high school. Don't use Wikipedia.
00:47:05
Speaker
Wikipedia is right. And then Google AI is like literally in AI in general, just forget Google AI, AI in general, chat GPT, whatever is like filling up the internet. Everyone asks the questions and no one ever questions it it. I never hear anyone say, don't worry, don't, don't trust it.
00:47:21
Speaker
It's strange. like it's just It's so ingrained in every facet. and And I heard Wikipedia is bad. Well, I'm not in school. So maybe maybe they're saying don't trust AI in school now too. it Don't trust the eye ah or don't source AI is the is the is the new don't trust ah Wikipedia, I guess.
00:47:39
Speaker
Yeah. But anyway. Yeah. Anyway, I thought this was funky. So I thought I would bring it up because I thought it was...
00:47:46
Speaker
But I do like the streamlined nature of splitting off the companies because i I like the idea of them getting focused and I don't want Warner Brothers to die off. They have a really like a lot of really cool IP. Oh, that was the other thing I was going to say.
00:47:57
Speaker
It doesn't seem Zazov was completely failed in everything. I also think like him hiring James Gunn was a really good decision. I will i will say that. I don't know yet. We'll see how it pans out. I am getting the impression based on Superman and like Peacemaker and what he's done so far. Creature commandos, dude.
00:48:14
Speaker
Yeah. He's not failed yet in any capacity. He's done a great job every ever for everything. We'll see if he keep up that track record, but I have a feeling just based on how passionate he is and based on what Superman looks like.
00:48:26
Speaker
I just love the bowl cut on Nathan Fillion. Man, it's just good. It looks great. I'm very excited. Trousers, and baby. Trunks, you mean?
00:48:37
Speaker
Yeah, sure. i Wait, sorry, you're mentioning his underwear? Yeah, Superman's trousers. Trousers are pants. Whatever, dude. I don't speak British. yeah Am I wrong about that? No, you're probably right. You're probably right. let's You want to Google? All right, let's pause the show again. Trousers. Those are pants.
00:48:56
Speaker
Those are pants, son. Google time the show. Trunks. The Google episode. When you Google trunks, it brings up trunks from Dragon Ball Z.
00:49:08
Speaker
So that must be what it is. Yeah. So Trunks is in the new Superman confirmed. Yes. Maybe we'll finally get that. Who would win Superman versus Goku? We're finally going to get that.
00:49:20
Speaker
Yeah, that's what it is. that's That must be what it is. Yeah, he's already he's already merging the two universes. He hasn't even started his own DC universe, and he's going to merge the Dragon Ball Z universe with the DC universe. That's incredibly wise. It must be what he's doing.
00:49:33
Speaker
Okay, let's now move on into our what we've been watching segment, Adrian. Sure. Before we get into the thing we watched together, which is obviously Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, which we watched together at a Cineplex near us.
00:49:47
Speaker
What else did you watch? I haven't watched too much, to be honest. So I have little to say again. I've been playing lot video games with the video game hype this week. But I ask you, what have you watched, sir? Cool, man.
00:49:58
Speaker
So funnily enough, Simon, remember when i when I told you I was going to watch Andor on the plane and I was going to finish off Andor on the plane. And then you're like, really? You're going to watch it on your tablet? going to watch it on your tablet? yeah And then I was like, i was i was on the plane and I was like, you know what? Simon's right.
00:50:13
Speaker
I shouldn't watch this on my tablet. I'm going to watch this when I get home. for my trip to from BC. Yeah. And you know what happened, Simon, when I got home, you couldn't access it. No, Disney plus fucking kicked me out. And was like, Oh my God, what the hell? so I haven't watched the rest of the indoor yet.
00:50:29
Speaker
I'm going to get a week trial of, of Disney plus um just before the bear season four drops. So I can finish and or and watch all of the bear. Um, okay. And then I'll, I'll subscribe to Disney plus once alien earth starts airing.
00:50:44
Speaker
So I watched Andor, but when I was in BC for like a work event thing, work conference, I had, you know, kind of a day where I had a little bit of extra time, Simon. I was wandering the streets of Victoria, um ate at a couple of cool food spots, but I was like, I got, I got quite a few hours because my plane left in the evening, like late at night, actually, i should say night. It left out like 1130 BC time.
00:51:08
Speaker
Yeah. i Exactly. PM. p.m. Good call. Good call. ah So i'd I had a little bit of an afternoon and I was like, you know what? I'm going to go to the movies in Victoria, you're B.C. by myself.
00:51:21
Speaker
Oh, that's some time. And I was like, i you know, what am I going to do? Just walk around. I got I got I got my bag with me. i don't want to walk everywhere. I'm tired. So i was like, going to go and watch Final Destination Bloodlines. Oh, nice.
00:51:35
Speaker
Because it was one of the movies that I know you didn't really care to watch. My fiance didn't want to watch it either. I didn't really know anyone that wanted to watch. it So I'm like, this is actually a good opportunity for me to sit down and watch this. Right.
00:51:46
Speaker
So I went in. And if you don't know, Simon, Final Destination is a franchise. This is the sixth the movie. I've only seen the first three. But you don't have to really watch them. They're not super connected. There's typically, you know, one character that's in most of them. Funnily enough, it's Tony Todd. rest God rest his soul.
00:52:05
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um He's in, I think, the first three, maybe four, and then he's like a voice in one of them. But he's he's in this and plays a prominent character. And the premise of Final Destination typically is someone has a vision that that they're going to die along with a bunch of other people are going to die.
00:52:24
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and And so like the first one, it's like a plane crash. Second one is like a highway car crash thing with logs coming out of truck. Yeah. And so someone has a vision and stops everyone from dying, but death doesn't like that. Death is like this entity. You don't see them, but they are like, Hey, you can't cheat death. You you had a vision. That's not okay. So I got to kill all these people in significantly worse ways now.
00:52:49
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Right? We all everybody. Yeah.
00:52:57
Speaker
you Did you understand that reference? face little laugher um That's from... Oh my god, why am I forgetting it? ah Simon, spit it out now. we are Lost?
00:53:09
Speaker
Yeah, okay, yeah. But you know why I'm saying it.
00:53:14
Speaker
Am I allowed to say why? No, don't say it, but you know why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Okay. I was like, it's a spoiler. um and I'm just worried that you don't know I'm talking about. it I don't know. you didn't even know. i have to say the word. It's a one-word title of a show. yeah i don't know.
00:53:30
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and Sometimes you don't get my references, and you just awkwardly laugh, so I just want to make sure that... just want to make you feel okay about it. But yeah, I know why you're saying it. It's like that, though. It's like that. It is. Yeah, it is. Okay. So...
00:53:42
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um that's typically the premise, but in final destination bloodlines, there was this woman that had a vision back in, i don't know, like the seventies or some shit sixties, fifties, doesn't matter the the year, but her vision was so severe and that it literally killed hundreds of people.
00:54:00
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Like as opposed to, you know, typical final destination fashion where, and to me be fair, the plane crash would have killed a shit ton too, but only like, you know, 10, 15 people leave those situations. So, She sees like this crazy event happen. A bunch of people are going to die. Like again, hundreds of people.
00:54:17
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And she stops it. But since she stopped it, you know, death has to go back and kill all these people. But it takes a while for death to go through all the people to kill. So while he's going through and murdering a bunch of people in brutal ways, these people are having kids and those kids are having kids, so on, so forth. So the premise of this is there's a there's a woman that has this vision But it's not a vision of her dying. It's a vision of her grandmother dying. The same vision that her grandma had back in the day, Simon.
00:54:47
Speaker
So it's now like, okay, death is coming to kill that bloodline, that family bloodline. And it's going to wipe it out because the grandma was never supposed to survive in the first place.
00:54:58
Speaker
And this franchise is fun. i liked it as a kid. It's very campy in a weird way. It's very... um Like it knows what it is. At least this one does. It knows what it is. So it's more of a horror comedy than like just a, you know, horror like gore fest.
00:55:17
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The deaths are brutal. Very brutal. Actually, they're pretty gross. um But again, there's this level of campiness and comedy layered throughout the entire movie.
00:55:28
Speaker
And when these characters are talking about the situation they're in, it's just very like, oh, like that's kind of absurd. Like that makes no sense. But when it starts happening, you know, they realize what's occurring and actively try to stop it.
00:55:40
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um And yeah, it's a good time, man. Like I, I, I, it's a genuinely fun time. The reviews of the movie are shockingly great as well. I looked at it after, I feel like I remember them being good, but I think it's like 90 something on Rotten Tomatoes, which is crazy.
00:55:55
Speaker
And I kind of get why I'm just kind of surprised because I don't think this is a movie for everyone. It's a 92 on Rotten Tomatoes, but again, it's just a movie that really knows what it is. plays up the you know ultra violent gore crazy deaths while again making the viewer laugh quite consistently um so yeah really good watch i enjoyed it quite a bit um yeah you have any experience with final destination at all no no i've watched clips lots of clips show up yeah
00:56:26
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Yeah. Yeah. you want to be scared of going on a roller coaster, et cetera. That's Final Destination 3, Simon. There you That's Final Destination 3. There you go. I just realized it's not we all everybody. It's you all everybody.
00:56:38
Speaker
You all everybody. Yeah. Yeah. You all. I feel like that's it. It's funny. I always thought about this. in For that show, you all, everybody, I feel like they didn't actually have a song.
00:56:50
Speaker
And then they they just had somebody riff that line. Yeah, Dominic Monaghan, right? Yeah, and you're right. And they just had him say it over and over again. And then later on, they're like, I guess we got to make a song now. Because Lost is full of flashbacks is like the main thing they do constantly. Yeah.
00:57:06
Speaker
So I was like, I guess we need a song now. Oh, damn. But it's not bad because it's like ah it's a cool little jingle to begin. It's a good starting spot, I guess, for a song.
00:57:17
Speaker
Silly. I miss Lost. um Cool. um Another movie I watched, Simon, is another horror movie. Okay. But very different type of horror movie. Captain Underpants. Captain Underpants.
00:57:31
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It is Captain Underpants, man. But he shit his pants the entire movie. he's He's trying to hide, like trying to rub his shit from his pants on people. And that's why it's like a serial killer.
00:57:42
Speaker
But it's just poo hands from his pants. What? You know what Captain Underpants is, right? and Yeah, I read that when I was a child. Okay, okay. Yeah, of course. I was like, what are you talking about?
00:57:53
Speaker
I'm just trying to make a horror twist of Captain Underpants. Right. Well, no, it would be horrible. Imagine that it was you. imagine Imagine you make a Captain Underpants movie, but it's in the perspective of the principal. What's his name? And then you became you're like and then you wake up and you're like you're in the middle of shopping mall in your underpants with a cape on.
00:58:13
Speaker
You're like, oh my God, how horrible would that be? How much anxiety would you have for the rest of your life? You'd just be thinking about that every time you go to bed. Because you keep waking up in these situations where you just realize you know you're not Captain Underpants and you're actually the principal of a school. Anyway.
00:58:29
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That was an inside baseball reference to Captain Underpants. Yeah, you could. He could have been arrested. Imagine he's just in jail for years. Sex offender list. Kim Kardashian's trying to get him out, you know? Yeah.
00:58:41
Speaker
That's the thing she does, right? I think. Does she that? I don't know her well enough. ah Apparently, she's she tries to get people out of jail who are like wrongly convicted. That's kind of her thing.
00:58:51
Speaker
Good for her. If Captain Underpants was in jail because he was hypnotized,
00:58:57
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you know i'm saying? It would not be his fault. It would be those children who would have to go to jail. So she'd try to get him out of out of prison. I assume. Anyway, this is really sidetracked. What were you saying you watched again?
00:59:08
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the yeah The other horror movie that I watched, Simon, is is Bring Her Back. Right. That was terrifying. That one, I would have probably gone to see Final Destination potentially. Like if I had no other thing I wanted to watch as a priority, but if, but as a priority, but like, I, I won't think I would ever, ever, ever have seen bring her back. Cause it looks absolutely terr terrifying. Like Sally Hawkins.
00:59:29
Speaker
I think she might've died at the end. I don't know. Why do you think that? Is this the movie? It looks like she's in a really bad way. That's what I mean. ah But honestly,
00:59:43
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was I going to say about Sally Hawkins? Sally Hawkins, is this the movie that she chose instead of Paddington? I don't know. i assume what she chose instead of Paddington was Wonka. Oh, yeah. 100%. Sorry.
00:59:54
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Yeah, you're right. and But... um But yeah, so bring her back. This is the second movie by Danny and Michael Filippo. Filippo, I might be pronouncing their name wrong. The previous movie was Talk to Me. Yeah.
01:00:07
Speaker
I'm a demon hand. If you if you hold my hand, ah i'm ah um ah you see demons and they possess you. Yeah. it Also looks terrifying. You ever watched? You didn't watch Talk to Me, did you? Talk to Me is... Looks less terrifying, to be honest. far less terrifying. yeah It's still like, you know, spooky, but there is like a, like a layer of comedy throughout talk, talk to me. Cause it's just a bunch of kids being a little rowdy cabin in the woods type.
01:00:33
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Uh, no tropes like that aspect of they're all alone in the basement and they're all kind of kind of, yeah. It's like, it's like these like kids being like, Ooh, it's essentially like experimenting with drugs, but the, the drug is holding a hand and like having, yeah, they're all daring each other. Yeah.
01:00:48
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Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah, Talk to Me, really good movie. Bring Her Back is amazing as well.
01:00:58
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But... I really want to stress this, Simon. i like I really like this movie. Right. But I never want to watch this movie again. This is one of the most upsetting movies I've ever seen in my goddamn life.
01:01:09
Speaker
This is actually one of the very few times, I can't even think of the other times, this might only be the only time, where genuinely felt sick to my stomach watching a movie. Oh, wow. where I was, I I'm glad I didn't get popcorn for this.
01:01:22
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um But I, I literally, I genuinely felt sick. There's these moments in it. So bring her back is so it's Sally, Sally Hawkins. She's a mother. She lost her daughter a few years prior and she becomes like a, a foster parent.
Orphaned Kids and Strange Occurrences in New Home
01:01:36
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And um there's these two kids, um Andy and Piper,
01:01:42
Speaker
I've never seen them in anything before. And Andy's like the older stepbrother to Piper. Piper, she's like half blind, like she can see colors and shapes. And they go home from school one day and their dad, um you know, presumably killed himself or or died in the shower.
01:02:01
Speaker
um And this is like within the first like few minutes of the movie. So they get put in the foster care system and Sally Hawkins adopts them. And, you know, fairly quickly, they realize, you know, Sally Hawkins is daughter passed away a few years ago. She's taking ah care of another kid named Oliver, who is a fucking weirdo ah that that is said by one of the characters in the movie and is like a mute.
01:02:25
Speaker
Right. So um Piper, she can't see properly. Oliver can't speak. And um Andy is like just, you know, he's he was kind of a shitty kid, but like he's trying to be better and wants to be, you know, Piper's guardian in a few months when he turns 18.
01:02:41
Speaker
And that's kind of the setup of the movie. But then a lot of weird shit starts happening around the house. Oliver is kind of, again, is is a fucking weirdo and starts doing weird things. And Sally Hawkins, you know, seems to be almost against Andy as a character. And I don't want to dive into this movie because the way it unfolds is genuinely amazing.
01:03:03
Speaker
But at the same time, it is so fucked up, dude. Like so fucked up. And I, again, I left the theater being like, I had like a face of like, almost like disgust for the, the rest of the evening.
01:03:15
Speaker
i felt not good. i didn't feel good internally. didn't feel good about watching it, but I didn't regret watching it. And I'm glad that I consumed this sort of piece of art that brought out such a, such a strong emotion in me.
01:03:29
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yeah, Again, if you are a fan of horror, and I highly stress this, like you have to be a hand fan of horror, be okay with some pretty intense gore, I would recommend this movie to you.
01:03:42
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In general, though, i would probably not recommend this movie to to the vast majority of human beings. it's It's fucked. um But again, I really loved it.
01:03:53
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Never going to watch it again. um I know I'm being very vague about it, but it's it's tough to talk about without really giving away kind of the plot and and premise. um There is actually one bit of the movie that I really didn't like.
01:04:07
Speaker
And again, to keep things a little vague, there's there's like a mess around the house, um like so around Sally Hawkins' house, and someone is coming over to that to to her house.
01:04:18
Speaker
And the timeline is so... unclear but it's like she cleans up her whole house in the matter of 10 minutes and it's like there's no fucking way in hell you could have cleaned up this house that quickly that is really the only part of that movie where i was like this this it just took me out of it briefly but apart from that one who made this big mess No, but it's, it's like absurd because the person like shows up and they're like, everything looks okay. I'm like, there, there was, there was damage everywhere. I don't know how you clean this up.
01:04:48
Speaker
The, the day. The clown from frigging comfy couch. Honestly, it would have taken, it would have taken days, not like minutes to clean it up. And it felt like the movie was, if anything, maybe a couple hours. I'm like, you couldn't fucking clean this up as one person in a couple hours. You could not.
01:05:03
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Um, it's absurd, but yeah, really great movie. Otherwise really enjoyed it. Um, But yeah, those are kind of the two movies I watched.
TV Show Comparisons and Preferences
01:05:12
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Yeah. Still watching the OC. And I've been passively watching one show, Simon, because my fiance has been watching it. she's She's into it. This is kind of her own show, but I'm sitting there pretending I'm not interested. But honestly, I kind of am.
01:05:25
Speaker
Okay. Vampire Diaries. Oh, empire sure. Okay. Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. It's not that bad. Yeah, it's good. i watch like oh I watched four seasons of it or something. Oh, you did? back yeah. Back in the day when it was airing.
01:05:38
Speaker
Oh, nice. That's cool. stopped watching it for some reason. I can't remember why. It's just there's so many good shows. It started to be it started to move into the territory of the golden age of TV. I feel like more so and more so like closer and closer inside like the Breaking Bad era and everything like that. And i stopped watching the more network.
01:05:54
Speaker
yeah oriented tv shows but yeah it's not bad at all it's like it's crazy because that aired around the same time that that's twilight twilight aired but this is so much better in every way in my opinion it's just more realistic it's more violent it feels like an actual vampire story as opposed to like sparkling people in the sun it also has being summer holder from lost bringing it back Ian Salmonholdy. Yeah, that was his next show after Lost, pretty much. Like, his next big, big show.
01:06:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But I really like him in the show. He's very charismatic. He's one sassy-ass bitch. Yeah. He's a sassy vampire bitch, and I like him. He's very, like... Yeah. Anyways, I feel like he's very gay coded in a weird way, just like his sass, his sassiness.
01:06:37
Speaker
But he's also just a banging women all the time. And he's also murdering so many people. He murders like 18 people in the first episode. You're like, it's crazy. He's a serial killer, man. And you're watching it and they're like, but he has good qualities. I'm like, this motherfucker killed so many people.
01:06:52
Speaker
I don't know how far you are in, but when you get to a certain point, you're like, how can you like this guy? We're finishing season one. We're finishing season one. We eventually get to points where people just accept this guy more and more and more over time.
01:07:05
Speaker
And you're just like, and don't understand. Am I missing something here? This guy's a f freaking psychopath. Dude, they already are by the end of the first season. They're like, oh, he's he's all right. He's not literally a psychopath. That is the definition, though. Yeah. He murdered so many people.
01:07:19
Speaker
Yeah. It's awesome. I don't know. By far the best character, though. As a viewer, I love watching him. I like Alaric quite a bit, actually. Who's that one? He's like the vampire hunter dude.
01:07:31
Speaker
Oh, yeah yeah. That guy also vaguely looks like Harrison Ford. And I had a theory that he could, if he ever made it, he could, he could have done the young Han Solo. Yeah. they were like casting that. I was like, i feel like he could do it, but I don't know if he's got the acting chops. You don't see, I've never seen him in anything else.
01:07:45
Speaker
So, yeah. um yeah but yeah cool that's it that's all baby that's it that's all except for what we both watch together but before we go into that what did you watch man or what did you might play moving through not this is not a video game podcast but i've been i've been moving through andor ah actually yeah and i've been playing star wars outlaws alongside that but and or i'm on episode two of season season two now So i'm not I'm not close to the end. I just watched season two earlier today.
01:08:15
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It was a funny, the the beginning of the season is pretty funny though because like just like what Diego Luna's character is dealing with, I feel like that's the funniest part.
01:08:25
Speaker
He was dealing with in those first two episodes. It's like, what? It has a little bit of the vibes of like the casino and yeah in in The Last Jedi a little bit.
01:08:38
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and in the In the way that the casino ends up playing out, if you like look at it from start to finish? Yeah, I guess so. it's like Because people don't like the casino sequence because they feel like it's kind of like there's a useless aspect of it. like Nothing happened. It's like, but...
01:08:51
Speaker
Things could happen. It's character development and it's also like stage. It stages the... Theoretically, could have staged the next movie. but but they didn't They didn't use that. Let's go with that. It's interesting. Canto Bight is actually in Star Wars Outlaws, the game I'm playing too. Canto Bight's like the beginning of the game.
01:09:07
Speaker
There's a lot of really cool... like it's an open world Star Wars games, but ah there's a game, but there's like a lot of open world environments in various planets that you've both seen in Star Wars and not seen.
01:09:20
Speaker
And one of the places is Canto Bight, which may part of the controversy because people don't like Star Wars Outlaws for, I think, stupid reasons, but yeah. Yeah, anyway, that's it. And you know I've been watching, I've been playing Expedition 33, Claire
Gaming Experiences and Comparisons
01:09:34
Speaker
Obscura. I took a recommendation. I but purchased it last episode. Was it last episode? It was, yeah, at the end.
01:09:39
Speaker
and the Yeah, i I bought it at the end of the episode. And it's been good so far. I'm only six hours in still. I really like it. I think the story is very emotional. I can see where they could make a pretty cool movie. I'm curious to see how, like, it's very, like, surrealist, or i don't know what you would call that. But it's, like, the idea, like, this, like, it's almost like a French painting consistently. Mm-hmm.
01:09:57
Speaker
And so I'm curious how they would actually make that into a live action. It's supposed to be a live action film or they didn't maybe confirm that. Maybe going to be an animated. Yeah, I don't know if they confirmed it either way. um i assume live action, but yeah.
01:10:09
Speaker
The facial animations are interesting in the game, though. Like they're very realistic. So I feel like you could easily I think live action would make more sense. Here's a question for you. Actually, that's great. This is a great good segue to film and TV. If you were going to cast the main character, at least in the beginning of the game, Gustav, who would you cast as the main character? Would you cast Charlie Cox or someone else? And the someone else that I think he looks like is Robert Pattinson. Yeah, I don't know if that's like I don't know they try to cast Robert Pattinson. I got to. like I want to clear the air on this, though. I think Charlie Cox does a phenomenal job.
01:10:42
Speaker
so like as no I have no gripes with it, but I'm kind of shocked that he looks so much like Robert Pattinson, like the character does. He does. Not Charlie Cox. Charlie Cox doesn't look like Robert Pattinson almost at all.
01:10:53
Speaker
um But it's interesting. ah I don't know if you would cast... Would you just cast the original people? like Would you cast Andy Serkis as the role that he plays, e etc., etc.? Don't spoil anything, but... Yeah, would I would cast Andy Serkis in the role that he plays. i The only character I probably wouldn't cast with the same actor would probably be Maelle, who is played by Jennifer English. And it's because Jennifer English is... She's adult woman. Yeah, she's an adult woman.
01:11:19
Speaker
um But apart from that, like I think you could honestly cast the same actors in it. I just don't really know. Apart from Andy Serkis and Brian... Sorry, not Brian Cox. Charlie Cox. um They...
01:11:32
Speaker
I don't think any of the other people have been in ah many, if any, live action stuff. so um But yeah, I do. Yeah, I think the casting is good. And I like i do agree with you. i When I started the game, I i leaned towards my fiance, Cassandra. i was like, this guy's very like Robert Pattinson coded.
01:11:50
Speaker
And she's like, yeah, I can see it. So... so Yeah. I'm glad that you're liking it though. I was. I'm liking it so far. i dont want to pass too much judgment because I'm, what am I? 10% in?
01:12:01
Speaker
Give or take. no no, no. I'd be more than 10%. yeah Like if you're looking at the story wise, you're probably like a solid 20% in. Yeah. yeah Give or take maybe. don't know. I'm loving the combat aspects of like the way the combat operates.
01:12:13
Speaker
it's It's interesting. I like how it's action. like you you you so My issue with turn-based combat is always I play video games for the immersive elements of a video game. That's kind of why I play them typically.
01:12:25
Speaker
And so you feel like you're in control. And the games you feel most in control is when you're doing action, you're're you're committing to the actions directly for the characters. And turn-based is tricky because you're you're given each character and then you're asked to do an action through a menu.
01:12:37
Speaker
So it's and obviously, there's a disjointed nature of it. But in this game, you can dodge and parry and do various actions on the fly when an enemy attacks you and you're, you're in full control of that. And you can, it it just feels, feels very in control. And the, the parry windows and stuff like that, where you're trying to block attack are pretty tight, which is pretty cool too.
01:12:59
Speaker
Like tighter than the game I just played. I, uh, parry is a huge part of kingdom come deliverance to massive part of it. It's cause you're sword fighting all the time. And so it's, it's much easier to parry in that game. Although people find the combat difficult in that game for other reasons too. But, um,
01:13:15
Speaker
Um, yeah. Anyway, i like I really like it. I'm curious to see if it will be turned into a live action film. i I hope, I hope it actually gets off the ground and it's not just sitting in a, in a drawer somewhere like, oh yeah, we, we have the licensing for this.
01:13:29
Speaker
Maybe we should do this. It's like, it's 2045. I don't know. Like that could happen theoretically, but 2033, maybe that'd be good branding. That would be great. That wouldn't, that's not so unrealistic.
01:13:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that was the crazy thing. They sold 33 million copies. Sorry, 3.3 million copies on the 33rd day. Like by the 33rd day. Yeah. Which is pretty pretty poetic. It's awesome. I'm glad that it's doing well. It's it's a really neat game. It's ah my favorite game of the year by far.
01:13:58
Speaker
Maybe that'll change with Death Stranding. Yeah, my favorite game the game I just mentioned, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. It's funny because it i went it was ups and downs for me. It's such a long game. it's like a hundred I was 148 hours in by the time I finished it. The cast of characters in that game, especially by the end, I'm like, this is like Red Dead Redemption 2 level cast of characters because you're with these cast this cast of characters for so long.
01:14:18
Speaker
It lacks the polish of a Red Dead 2. But like the characters are like, I'm like, man, I love this guy. There's like always these characters like, wow, this person's great. this' like it's It's amazing. it's It's incredible in many ways. That game is the opposite of a turn-based game, and it's incredibly immersive. You're playing first person. Your combat's like very visceral. You're playing...
01:14:37
Speaker
Every parry strike you're attacking, yeah you're parrying, whatever. Every attack you're parrying and then you're attacking the opponent, whatever, with a sword as realistically as as it could be, I guess, in a video game. Anyways, let's move on. This is not a video game podcast,
Mission Impossible Series Analysis
01:14:50
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Adrian. This is a film with TV podcast.
01:14:52
Speaker
So let's move on now to the thing we both watched this week. We both watched it in theaters. We talked about it ah a little bit briefly or experienced in the theaters, not the greatest. It was a cheap Tuesday.
01:15:04
Speaker
The people in theaters, not necessarily the in that in that particular theater, not necessarily the most respectful. But we did watch Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning, which Tom Cruise is still insisting is the final movie.
01:15:15
Speaker
We're not going to spoil anything here, as we do not, um on our podcast. I'll just throw it to you. What did you think of Christopher McQuarrie, director Christopher McQuarrie's Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning?
01:15:29
Speaker
um Simon, I thought this movie was pretty darn great. I think ah it has, in my opinion, like a breakneck speed at the beginning with, um you know, some very interesting creative choices, but where it all leads is incredibly satisfying, like high level thoughts.
01:15:47
Speaker
um I think the action in this movie is awesome. um I think the villain in this movie is pretty charismatic and kind of the way they go it.
01:15:59
Speaker
That villain is is really cool. There's some amazing, amazing stunts, um very emotional moments as well throughout the movie. This did kind of feel like a nice, you know, like swan song to the Mission Impossible franchise.
01:16:13
Speaker
But I guess kind of how you alluded to, like, I think there is potential for more like they could continue this if they wanted to. I would say there's way more potential for more than John Wick after John Wick 4.
01:16:26
Speaker
I'm kind of shocked, actually, that they're so adamant that this is the end because – John Wick 4 is somehow continuing. I don't understand how, how because even like Chad Stahelski, I think recently said, like, we're looking for a way back into the story. It's like, wait, didn't Lionsgate confirm this is happening? Like, how are you confirmed it's happening if you don't have a way into the story yet?
01:16:48
Speaker
i don't know. It's a strange one. But yeah, I'm not spoiling yeah the reasons is why yeah either of these things could continue could not. But anyway...
01:16:59
Speaker
But yeah, I thought this was a really enjoyable like three hour ah romp. i again, i was cracking my knuckles throughout the movie, but when I wasn't cracking my knuckles, Simon, I was kind of at the edge of my seat, prayer hands, you know, right up against my lips kind of, oh my goodness, what's going to happen next?
01:17:16
Speaker
You know, after eating my bag of popcorn, which I waited to finish consuming before the, you know, until after the start of the movie. didn't want Tom Cruise walking and pointing at me being like, Yeah. You ate all your popcorn already. The movie hasn't even started. Like that one kid is never going to live that down.
01:17:32
Speaker
um But yeah, again, it's kind of tough to talk about like a Mission Impossible movie high level because it's it's really like the the plot serves the action. The action doesn't serve the plot in a lot of ways. And that's kind of how I felt.
01:17:47
Speaker
I think especially with this movie, I feel like a lot of it was like, oh, man, this would be really cool to fucking fly a plane and have these crazy plane portions of this movie. And it's like, how do we get there?
01:17:58
Speaker
How do we get to that? Maybe the flaw of this movie, though. Like, isn't that the issue? Because I don't think that's the case. So. Sorry, I don't want to cut you off. I can. then No, no, no, no, no. Please, please continue. Please continue.
01:18:11
Speaker
So I watched all the Mission Impossible movies in a row. I went crazy. I got Paramount Plus as ah as ah as a free trial. I didn't end up paying for it because they I just kept getting free trials because they pissed me off so much because their customer service sucked.
01:18:23
Speaker
And it never they never fixed my problem, really. They never fixed it, and they had no they had no remorse or any any apologetic bone in their body. Nobody cared that I had a bad experience at all. And so I'm never probably ever going to get Paramount Plus and pay for it. But alas, I didn't steal it. I just got the free trials that they offered.
01:18:40
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um But i I watched all the movies except for Dead Reckoning, which was then on Netflix, and I watched Dead Reckoning. Oh, I started You, the the show. not Me? Not you. Yeah, not ah you. I started this TV show.
01:18:52
Speaker
was kind of badgily called You. Season four? Yeah, yeah. I started season four because we got Netflix, and so we watched ah one episode. So yeah, we're not I'm not far into into it. But regardless of that, watched all seven Mission Impossible movies up till eight, which is Final Reckoning.
01:19:08
Speaker
Yeah. And... It's interesting because the first three movies, I liked the first one way more than I liked it when I watched it initially, which is interesting.
01:19:20
Speaker
I had a problem with the first movie because the first movie, I mean, it's the beginning of a franchise of movies, but it's not the beginning of the franchise in general. In fact, it's a sequel to the TV show from the 1960s that was then rebooted, I think in the 80s. There's this idea that it's a team of of this IMF force.
01:19:38
Speaker
That's probably why the name of it is so cheesy. Impossible Mission Force. The Impossible Mission Force. Which I think... When do they name drop that for the first time? Is that the fifth movie? First movie.
01:19:50
Speaker
Do they say that in the first movie? maybe they don't say the name of it. They just use the acronym. I think they just use IMF. I can't remember which movie it was. I remember when they said it. yeah Because i I binged watched the first, I think, five movies leading up to Fallout 6.
01:20:03
Speaker
It might have been in Fallout. Wasn't it Fallout? don't think so. I'm not sure. There was a moment, though, in Fallout. I think it was in Fallout where... there was a comment about it, about how it's just a stupid name.
01:20:16
Speaker
Is that what you're talking about? No, I remember because I binge watched the first five movies leading into Fallout and I remember there is a part part because I actively remember, I think it was the fourth, maybe the fifth, where they say it's like, it's the imp impossible missing mission force. And was sitting there being like, wait, what the fuck? That's what I'm at stands for? It's such a horrible name. Yeah, caught me so off guard. But it's probably because of the TV show. It's got to be that. Yeah.
01:20:37
Speaker
um Because they werere just, it's cheesy. It's the nineteen sixty s and like, Yeah, it's fine. But regardless of that, my my point about it is that if you look back on that first movie, it was the whole point of the show is that you have this team, they're going on these impossible missions, and they're doing these crazy heists, right?
01:20:52
Speaker
And then the movies is like, nah, this is just a vehicle for Tom Cruise. And It just basically makes it that. And this is a Tom Cruise movie and it's like true. Like they still dabble with having a team and they eventually kind of make sure. Like Ving Rhames' character specifically.
01:21:08
Speaker
Yeah, gets introduced and things like that. But I feel like that was kind of, it really kind of pissed me off at the time. I'm like, ah of course, of course it is. Movie star Tom Cruise has to have his thing. Symmetrical face Tom Cruise. Maybe annoyed, but then.
01:21:21
Speaker
As it went on the second movie is by far the worst. And then the third third movie I find is like incredibly flawed and kind of incomplete. I found it was like I was not satisfied after watching that. But I thought that Philip Seymour Hoffman is a great villain. Like just awesome.
01:21:34
Speaker
Like he's probably one of the most compelling because he's he' such a great actor. Philip Seymour Hoffman is just a great actor. That's what He is still because he's on film. But sure, he is in that sense. Yeah, he's dead. didn't you say rest in peace or something?
01:21:50
Speaker
Was. Was. That fucking guy's dead, dude. That amazing actor is dead now. So much disrespect. yeah Anyway, so moving on from that.
01:22:02
Speaker
um Then, honestly, after the first three, then it just hits its stride. Brad Bird comes in with its Ghost Protocol. And it's just like, that movie's really good and it has elements of like a Pixar movie. And you can tell he's like a Pixar director in some way. It's Michael Giacchino doing the score.
01:22:21
Speaker
And the whole thing with... With climbing – It's the Burj khalish Khalifa, right? they He's climbing the freaking building and stuff. But there's this idea that they also – They don't have any – They have all this like faulty equipment, but they still manage to plan everything. and The heists – They make all this planning. and Largely, the thing about Mission Impossible that always strikes me is is interesting versus every other spy movie. Yeah.
01:22:44
Speaker
is that they're all it's all heist movies, and there's a little heists, and they're almost fooling the audience constantly, but it's also incredible action set pieces, and there's a little bit of quirky comedy, and there's like funny moments, especially after the third one.
01:22:57
Speaker
Yeah, I know talk about... Yeah, like the third one being flawed, but I really love the third one because that's kind of, I feel like it set the stage for every movie that comes after because that's when Simon Pegg's introduced. That's true. It is a bit funnier.
01:23:11
Speaker
Yeah, like that that's the movie where it finally feels like, okay, we got a team dynamic, right? And I think- A little bit more so, sure. Sure. Like just going right into it in the beginning of it. Yeah. it's just that does It felt incomplete. Like we don't really find out everything about it. It's it's like, I don't know. There's something about It's J.J. Abrams.
01:23:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's just J.J. Abrams. I don't know. I liked it okay. It's not terrible. but But anyway, um the cool thing is, is like you mentioned this in the theater when we left for Final Reckoning. You're like, I like three because it sets the stage for other things too. Like various characters are carried over too. That's the other advantage. like There's ah also Michelle Monaghan's character. and And so that's important.
01:23:51
Speaker
But yeah, but Ghost Protocol is I feel like when i hit the stride in that they're truly like a standalone, a really excellent movie. And when I watched Ghost Protocol years ago, i was like, oh, I like Mission Impossible. I didn't realize that. And I've seen, i think it was three, in theaters for a birthday party in a cineplex, like in my hometown, like way back in the day. And I was like, don't This seems fine. I'm not that into this. And it was it felt like that kind of like, and then I went monthed it back to one and i was like, it's fine after I saw Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation, but Rogue Nation and Ghost Protocol, killer. They did such a great job.
01:24:25
Speaker
And then Rogue Nation, again, after Ghost Protocol does great. And ah these little heist moments, again, this planning, there's these degrees of planning that all of these characters have going into their situation. They're very smart and they they're very clever in the way that they outsmart the villains. And that's a huge part of the movie. And there's the spy elements of like, there's an it's an espionage thriller. So you're constantly questioning who's the real villain and what what is their motive? And you're kind of wondering what you know what's going to happen next? we were going to discover some crazy thing like you're that's like this classic spy genre of like a James Bond movie or yeah there's a mystery element with the action and like there's like that like a little bit of intrigue which is great but Fallout is legitimately one of my favorite movies ever made
01:25:10
Speaker
And it's funny because it wasn't initially when I saw it in theaters, I don't think I gave it even the credit that it deserved, but I definitely talked it up to its prices. And I constantly said it was amazing.
01:25:20
Speaker
I said it was like like one of the best action movies ever made, but I feel like as an action movie and as a movie, it's excellent. The thing that Fallout does so well is that right from the get-go, there are so many little plot elements and little clever tricks that that the the writers are trying to fool the audience as the clever characters are fooling the villains in various ways.
01:25:43
Speaker
They still lose in small ways and they have to like recover. Because the the villain is outsmarting them a little bit too. But it's like a chess match. Like a complicated chess match. And the pacing of that movie is crazy. It's set piece after set piece.
01:25:57
Speaker
But then they like set up the next heist. and there's like heist after heist. Which is like it's crazy. It's like the best example of what a Mission Impossible movie can be. Then we go into Dead Reckoning.
01:26:09
Speaker
Sorry, you want to say something? I was going to say it also has Henry Cavill with a mustache. And he reloads his arms like shotguns as you point that. That amazing too. Yeah. That is cool. And I like Jeremy Renner in the other two, Ghost Protocol and Rumination. I thought that was great, and it was kind of sad to not see him come back.
01:26:24
Speaker
Yeah. It's because he exploded. Not in the movies. Just off off camera. That's my headcanon, is that Jeremy Renner exploded. and
01:26:35
Speaker
I had a kid. That was the reason. The real reason he's yeah he had a child. The thing is is that Jeremy Renner got run over by a snowplow. So I thought that's what you're referencing. And I'm that's also kind of disrespectful. I didn't do that. That's why I didn't that, Simon. Just say that, and so it's Seymour Hoffman and Jeremy Renner on the same podcast episode, I guess. I didn't do that.
01:26:56
Speaker
I didn't do it. I don't know why I did that voice. Yeah. Anyway. don't know if I'm allowed to see that voice. Fallout is excellent. And it's like there's like never a moment where I'm like, ah this is doesn't work. Dead Reckoning?
01:27:11
Speaker
I don't know what happened. For me, Dead Reckoning is not written well. The set pieces are excellent. The stunts are excellent. But overall, the overall ah franchise of Mission Impossible isn't just completely about stunts.
01:27:24
Speaker
And it shouldn't be just about the action. So I think the plot is served by the action and vice versa in Fallout. But I don't think that that's the case in Dead Reckoning.
01:27:35
Speaker
I don't really understand like Dead Reckoning, especially the way it – I mentioned to you in the parking lot briefly ah about Dead Reckoning and how it treats its women. It's very weird. Rebecca Ferguson such a great character as an example in Fallout and Rogue Nation, right?
01:27:50
Speaker
Yes. yep Amazing. One of the best characters in the franchise. But the way they treat her in Dead Reckoning – in favor of just like having enough. It's like, they can't have too many women as like in on screen too much.
01:28:05
Speaker
Like, I don't know what that's about because it's just not a thing. I don't like Haley Atwell is great, but I don't really understand. Like there's this element of like Tom Cruise is going to save them or something.
01:28:15
Speaker
Yeah. There's like a hero complex. It's like, you're saving the women. But in my opinion, Rebecca Ferguson's character, like is, is arguably the most strong. Like she's the strongest spy.
01:28:27
Speaker
Yeah. I would make the argument that Rebecca Ferguson's character is arguably the like the best character in the franchise apart from Tom Cruise. She's very entertaining. yeah It's excellent. And I also love the relationship Fallen as an example. yeah like there's There's almost like a platonic relationship there. It's very interesting.
01:28:46
Speaker
it's It's strange. You can't quite place it. You're like, what is this? how it's like It's cool because it's like this could be romantic, but they're putting... But but they're like, na It's almost like we got we have other shit to deal with. maybe Maybe in another life this could have been something, but it's like there's this level of mutual respect and friendship that they have that is just so palpable. Their chemistry is phenomenal.
01:29:07
Speaker
Yeah. i I really love it. Yeah, I think do agree with you. And then when you go into Dead Reckoning, they're kind of like not – they're underutilizing her. But they're also doing these the weird flashback things where it like Tom Cruise has got to like save them like as if they're not capable.
01:29:21
Speaker
and But I mean, to be fair, Hayley Atwell's character introduced as a new right away. Yeah, she's just a person. She's a civilian, essentially. So it's strange to me that, like again, what are you doing with Rebecca Ferguson considering she's a stronger character? I don't know. i'm just very It's confusing because it followed even followed at the end of the movie,
01:29:41
Speaker
They have like the women characters kind of do like they're amazing. They're really well written overall. I just I don't understand what they were thinking in Dead Reckoning. I have no idea. i still don't get it. And there was like a moment. And I think it's like when he's going off that, you know, that that famous jump that he takes the the dirt bike and goes off the cliff.
01:30:01
Speaker
He like does a flashback where he like remembers all the women in his life. And I'm like, why are you doing? It's very jarring. I can't even believe it. I don't understand it. is a corny or is a, Oh my God, I messed up.
01:30:14
Speaker
I was going to say Ethan Hunt is a horny cunt, but, um, Oh, all right. But I messed up. I messed up the perfect setup, but he, he's definitely a little bit of a horn dog.
01:30:24
Speaker
The other thing that's the problem with, that's a strange offshoot problem. The real issue with dead reckoning and then moving into the movie, we're actually, we're talking about, which is final reckoning. Yeah. take Yeah. We'll get there eventually. We'll get there eventually. You know what I'm tired. I think we're done.
01:30:39
Speaker
But no, but the issue is this. The characters, the team doesn't seem to be able to plan anything out properly or have any clever answers to the villains and they have no, there's very few reveals where it's like, you're trying to fool the audience.
01:30:59
Speaker
They're just serving the set pieces. They're just like, let's move on to the next one. Let's move on to the next one. It's like, okay, no, no, no. Like what are these characters stupid now? Do they get hit in the head? When Tom Cruise hit his head when he was parachuting off a cliff by accident or something. It's almost like they, they have like this level of hubris where they're just like, I'm going to get into this worst situation because I'm the luckiest guy alive and I'll find a out of it.
01:31:22
Speaker
yeah But that's not fun. That's not the fun part is that they're getting in these situations because they're being forced into them. And then they're figuring out a way out in the most clever way possible. There are so many clever ways to get out of the situations in Fallout that I can't even believe it. It's it's so well written. ah It's shocking.
01:31:38
Speaker
they Also, Fallout is not like super pushing their their stunts, but they're remarkable as well. Like the Halo jump, like the low alto altitude jump they do is remarkable.
01:31:49
Speaker
But that situation was again, It's bad luck, but they they're so smart. The characters are smart and the writers are so smart that they recover in these very clever ways.
01:32:00
Speaker
They just don't recover. Man, there's a moment in Fallout where they drive down a narrow alley. Do you remember this? They planned to drive down a narrow alley with a garbage truck. I don't want to spoil it because it's just remarkable. I don't remember.
01:32:11
Speaker
like They drive down a narrow alley with a garbage truck. And I was just like, this is like a great sequence. I recommend watching Fallout again. good It is a five out of five for me. It is an excellent movie. I love it. Anyway, moving on to Final Reckoning.
01:32:24
Speaker
ah How many minutes was that? 48. but forty eight We're at it. We're we're we' we're here. Final Reckoning has the same problem. They're not smart. I don't know what's going on. They all hit their heads somewhere.
01:32:35
Speaker
yeah like They were in a room with carbon monoxide for a little too long, and then they came out, and they're like not smart enough to figure anything out. This isn't really a spoiler. No, it's not. The team gets made too often.
01:32:49
Speaker
They're like getting caught. It's like six times. They're getting caught constantly. and I'm just like, did you not come into this with any planning? and Then when they get caught and they're in situations they're really caught, they're like they have no plan to get out of it. like You didn't think you would get caught here?
01:33:06
Speaker
That's in the in the first half of the movie. Essentially, I thought the movie wasn't good because there's it's just multiple multiple times. it's just like they're never planned anything out. Even the way it was shot, there's a certain sequence in like this weird basement where there's there's like a couple characters like kind of handcuffed.
01:33:22
Speaker
That sequence, I'm like, I don't know what's going on. You have no plan. There's nothing. And then the way it's shot is weird and the dialogue between them is strange. like You have no plan. In Fallout, is this Fallout? No, which one? Oh, it's Rogue Nation. there's a scene There's a scene very similar to that.
01:33:40
Speaker
Very cleverly written. And I don't know if you recall that scene. Similar idea. Characters are handcuffed and and they get out of them in a very clever way. And Tom Cruise's way, like he gets out of that scene in Rogue Nation.
01:33:53
Speaker
Crazy. one of the One of his best stunts. But again, the stunts are more subtle. Like he does them for real, but they're not like some crazy thing. Like you're going fly a biplane. Yeah. like why are there two is the question i had in this movie for final reckoning but i'm not spoiling again that's in the trailer but but i'll say to finish my thought here find that it's just not clever and the writing's not clever and you're exactly right i think that the way you the words you described that the the the plot is serving the action exactly yeah i think that's the best way to describe that in fact i'm gonna write that down plot serves the action
01:34:31
Speaker
You're going to use that in your letterbox for review, aren't you? ah No. You should do that and then quote me. Yeah. hey The plot serves the action Adrian Pinter.
01:34:41
Speaker
Yeah. yeah but but Yeah. But then, but then this is my i thought the movie wasn't that good. It was fine. i thought it was serviceable. Then we get to the midway point.
01:34:53
Speaker
There's a moment where there's an underwater sequence, approximately, not maybe midway, somewhere around the middle. And I was like, this underwater sequence is one of the most unique and awesome things and ah I've ever seen on a movie. And I was like, James Cameron, take note.
01:35:07
Speaker
And so... Whoa! Whoa! Shots fired. Yeah. But no, I just didn't love Avatar The Way of Water that much. It's called The Way of Water. And I find that this underwater sequence is is better than anything underwater in A Way Water. And I couldn't really tell that it wasn't CG in A Way of Water. That's that's kind of my criticism of it. Whereas this felt like, I'm like, how much of this was filmed practically? Because it feels like all of it. All of it.
01:35:32
Speaker
All it was filmed practically. dove 500 fucking feet into the water. No, not that practically. then he was in the submarine. It was crazy. When we say it's filmed practically, we don't mean actually the exact situation the character is in.
01:35:47
Speaker
The exact situation the character was in, it was filmed that way. What makes it even more impressive is a cameraman filmed it all. He was in the exact same situation and he was filming, dude. It was nuts. yeah But no, agree with you. don't get the details of the scene didn't, obviously.
01:36:01
Speaker
i do agree with you. that That's kind of the... I was enjoying the movie, honestly, up until that point. I was not enjoying it. That is the moment. Oh, sorry. You keep on you keep on talking.
01:36:12
Speaker
You want to talk? You want to talk? one talk yeah i'll let you talk no no please please i just didn't finish my thought no finish it finish it then you dropped me with your your thought on practical effects which is nonsense no please i love right i've been talking for way too long i explained the entire history of the mission impossible movies for 30 minutes so please go ahead it's a good scene no come on Whatever. so the the my my last moment in the slot here.
01:36:45
Speaker
That scene is incredible, but it's not just that scene. After that, it doesn't really lose a beat. And then they're they're just recovering from that scene, but they they find...
01:36:57
Speaker
Again, not very clever ways to do the next scenes, but they the the the action is really, really great. And the writing is quite emotional, actually, especially nearing the end. So I thought that that was a was a very strong payoff for what it is. And lastly, in relation to the emotionality of it, but also the stakes being high.
01:37:16
Speaker
The stakes are very high, but the stakes are higher in Dead Reckoning and Final Reckoning than the other movies on a political level. They actually show off some of the politicians and they show off the generals. They don't usually do that in Mission Impossible.
01:37:29
Speaker
And they do that in the trailer very obviously. And they show off how these characters are reacting to a very serious situation, which is weird because the other movies, they don't really react. and you don't Well, you don't see them react, so they could be reacting to it.
01:37:44
Speaker
But there's this idea that it's almost a nuclear holocaust as the plot in every single movie. Like it's always like, oh is there going to be a nuclear disaster? and and you never really see the impact of the rest of the world.
01:37:57
Speaker
Where's Tom Cruise when you need him right now? you know dear. Oh, dear. Yeah, in the real world. I'll throw it to you because I've talked for way too long. But that that's kind of my thought process is that by the halfway point, they improved it.
01:38:08
Speaker
The writing's not that tight in the beginning. It's not tight at all. And I feel like they just, they went away with the heist aspect of Mission Impossible. And they just said, well, let's just do another action set piece. It's like, yeahs that's not that good.
01:38:19
Speaker
That's not it not the point of of it. But it's it's definitely amazing because of the what you see in the last... half of the movie because it's crazy. stuff Yeah. it's It's almost like, um, it's funny that you say this because, I feel like there's a scene specifically in dead reckoning that, um,
01:38:36
Speaker
is very reminiscent of the Uncharted franchise. I think Uncharted 3 with the train. Uncharted 2. Is it 2? Yeah, sorry, 2. 3 is the plane. um But yeah, and in Uncharted 2 with the train sequence.
01:38:50
Speaker
yeah And it's it's kind of like the movies almost became like an Uncharted flick where it's all about the set pieces without any setup for the heist. So it is cool. um I do agree with you. I don't think...
01:39:02
Speaker
I don't remember Dead Reckoning much, unfortunately. Like, it's funny. I feel like I remember the other movies more than Dead Reckoning, which I guess speaks to the quality of the film. But yeah, I do love Fallout, and I think Fallout is by far the best movie in the franchise. And I think...
01:39:18
Speaker
I don't think Final Reckoning or Dead Reckoning are are close. I mean, yeah, I don't think they're close to to that quality. But I do think this is a very satisfying ending. Assuming this is the actual ending. I do also really like how um like throughout this entire movie, it felt very anime in a way where they kept on doing flashbacks to all the previous movies. They'd be like, oh, I love that.
01:39:42
Speaker
Yeah. And it like it's cool because it's like you know As someone that has watched all them all the movies, and again, this probably hit even harder for you because you watched all of them recently. it It was nice to have these like little reminders because they yeah they go in depth. There's a lot of flashback sequences in this, but it doesn't too much time. Not that, but they also do like nostalgic callbacks in a more deep way. and Again, I'm not going to spoil this at all, but that that's that's what like the there's some of the nostalgic callbacks – That's actually, again, where the middle of the movie just starts getting better.
01:40:13
Speaker
Is that they just start to do these things where they're like, we're taking the the rest of our our our history, the the nostalgia factor, very yeah seriously. which i That i really appreciate.
01:40:25
Speaker
but But I don't think I finished my thought. Just drift for one one more sentence to say. my God, are you serious? I mentioned in the beginning. I know. I mentioned in the beginning. So Mission a Impossible 1, right? I'm actually going back to that.
01:40:36
Speaker
But Mission Impossible 1. the thing The problem was it became ah an action vehicle for Tom Cruise. And then that's what disappointed me. they They filled in the rest of the movies in the center of this franchise with movies that are really clever, really well built, heist movies that are team movies that focus on the team more than Tom Cruise.
01:40:57
Speaker
Tom Cruise almost falls into the background. He's the coolest guy, but he's cool in the most subtle way, which is the best part about it. then in dead reckoning and final reckoning do you do the opposite and they go back to what i didn't like about number one which is let's make it another vehicle for tom cruise and all the other characters don't matter at all they're just not important anymore and he's the coolest guy and he's going to save the day that's not interesting it's interesting when jeremy renner is like does a badass sequence or simon pegg does something cool or rebecca furgison for sure does so many things that are cool any any scene she's in
01:41:29
Speaker
They lost the idea that like the whole, the again, it's about the team, buddy. That's what it's about. yeah Not about like Tom Cruise doing stunts. But it is when you put Tom Cruise's stunts in between it, like you did with he's hanging off the side of a, like a jumbo jet.
01:41:45
Speaker
Another, ah by the way, another sequence from Uncharted. Literally same sequence. He gets into the plane and he's fighting on a, you remember this? Yep. It's the same thing.
01:41:57
Speaker
I actually thought about this too. Like i'm trying to call it great call out because I thought about it while i was watching all the movies as it, as the middle of the movie comes through and it moves on, like there's a quirky comedy that's in it.
01:42:08
Speaker
That's similar to uncharted, but also the set pieces. We've never seen set pieces like this in any movie because they're really doing it practically and they're doing it in the most incredible way possible. So to see movie set pieces like the uncharted set pieces is like remarkable.
01:42:21
Speaker
So it is kind of like that. There's this quirky comedy. There's a spy element in Encharted a little bit. That's like the same as Indiana Jones has that kind of spy quality. And so that's that's a great call that you made. It's it's true. then there's lots of those kinds of sequences.
01:42:35
Speaker
Thank you. That's why I didn't like it is it because it goes right back to the the problem I had with number one. Yeah. um but anyway cool so if you were to rate this movie and then also rate all the mission impossible movies in order from worst to greatest how would you do it simon you actually want me to review them from worst to greatest i don't need your re-review just just give me the number order my phone's in my camera so i can't get my phone just remember go off the cuff so the best one is worst greatest worst is number two
01:43:07
Speaker
For sure. Agreed. And then if I recall correctly, second second worst is number three. Oh, interesting. And then third worst is number one.
01:43:21
Speaker
And then fourth worst his number is Ghost Protocol, so number four. And then Rogue Nation is great. Number five, Fallout's really great. Really, really great.
01:43:32
Speaker
Oh, sorry. Fall is not the next one. i'm i'm now I just went to chronological for some stupid reason. Yeah, I know age i was confused. I just got confused. I gave you the wrong order. Clearly. So it's 2-3-1. No. can't remember it. It's a letterbox. It's on my phone. Oh, my God, dude. All right. I'm going to do it real quick. All right. Mine's 2-1-7-3-4-1.
01:43:56
Speaker
three four Sorry. No. 2, 1, 7. harder than you think. 3, 8, 4, 5, 6.
01:44:06
Speaker
Boom. Boom. 4, 5, 6. Yeah, that's how mine is too. It's 4, 5, 6. Oh yeah, good for you. Good for you. 4, 5, 6, but the Dead Reckoning 7 and 8 are after 1, 2, and 3. Interesting, yeah. Mine's not bad. Approximately.
01:44:22
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But, yeah. So it's like 2, it's 2, 3, 1, Dead Reckoning 7. Yeah. seven Actually, I think Dead Reckoning is worse than one, actually. 23718456. There we go. Okay, good job. Good job. We finally got that done.
01:44:42
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We're never talking about Mission Impossible again until after we rate this movie on ah on a scale of rotten potatoes. How many potatoes out of five do you get? This one is a
01:44:58
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three Four out of five. I'm in agreement with you. Four out of five as well. yeah so Eight potatoes out of ten. That's fresh potatoes. That's eight fresh potatoes. You could make eight baked potatoes. That's one serving for an ogre.
01:45:15
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Treat the team better and it could have been a 4.5 out of five. Could have been. Treat the team better and have them actually be clever. That's the that's the key. but yeah Cool. How long was this review? 78 minutes.
01:45:29
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Oh, wow. we're See, we're not getting paid for this. we can We can make it as long as we want, Adrian. We can make it as long as fuck we want. i know
01:45:42
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is great oh my god it is great okay oh now into the segment of our show called the montage adrian a sequence of our show in which i briefly present seven of the bi-weeks smaller news stories as adrian delivers a brisk verdict number one According to publication The Hollywood Reporter, director David Fincher's upcoming sequel to Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood will begin production this summer and will star F1 actor Brad Pitt, the Crown actor Elizabeth Debicki, and Highway, ha Highway, Hawaii Five-0 actor Scott Kahn. Nice, dude.
01:46:26
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Funnily enough, Brad Pitt also starred in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, the movie that this TV show is a sequel to.
01:46:35
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Yes, that that is that is the point. yeah okay Number two, as reported by publication Deadline, Warfare actor Kit Connors is in talks to star in Warfare director Alex Garland's upcoming Elden Ring film adaptation.
01:46:51
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Amazing. I thought we knew about this, but maybe we just talked about the Elden Ring movie and not about this guy being in it. Correct. Yeah, okay. Number three. As reeled by horror studio Blumhouse, Maw 2 is in the works with Maw actor Octavia Spencer returning to star. That's awesome.
01:47:09
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You can actually say that that movie's coming out once it's the movie coming out time. Did I will this into existence? I think so, yeah. I think so. Did you see the sticker I sent you on on the iMessage? Yeah, i said we're ready to go and you sent me a picture of Octavia Spencer holding a gun from Maw too. Good times, good stuff.
01:47:28
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Number four. According to reporter Daniel Richtman, Schitt's Creek actor Emily Hampshire has been cast as A.I. Edith in the upcoming Paul Bettany starring Vision TV series from Marvel on Disney+. plus Wonderful. Good for her getting a a role in the MCU.
01:47:46
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I keep on forgetting that that this show is coming and I'm excited about it. MC me? dude. Number five. Number five. As confirmed by Black Panther director Ryan Coogler, Gladiator 2 actor Denzel Washington has been cast in Black Panther 3. Oh, I thought we already knew this as well, but maybe this was just rumored for a while. It was rumored. He just confirmed it. Number six.
01:48:10
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As announced by MGM Studios, creator Mel Brooks is developing a sequel to the 1987 Star Wars parody film Spaceballs, which is set to be directed by Stray's director, Josh Greenbaum, and launch in 2027. I never watched the first Spaceballs, but did you watch? Did you enjoy this movie?
01:48:30
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I watched it so long ago, but I remember it fairly well. It's pretty good. It's pretty pretty cool. the The trailer for this, the teaser is pretty funny. Oh, I didn't watch it. it's it's worth seeing because they just do like the star wars crawl like the title crawl but then they say this is a sequel to a movie that's a they just they keep mentioning s sequel over and over again and they mentioned how many sequels have come for every other movie franchise but this movie which was initially made in nineteen the for 40 years later. It's pretty nuts. Like when you think about it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Pretty cool. Number seven. As announced at the Anacis International Animation Film Festival, Luca director Enrico Casarosa is directing another Pixar animated film called Gato, which is set for a 2027 release, will take place in Venice, Italy, and follow a cat named Nero, who questions his life choices.
01:49:20
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Oh. Oh, I like this. I like this premise. I like Luca as a movie a lot. This is actually like ah a Pixar movie I'm genuinely going to be excited for.
01:49:31
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not excited for it yet, though. And that concludes the montage. yeah That's crazy, Simon. You only said seven stories this week. I know. That's weird. Got to keep it guessing, you know?
01:49:44
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You got to zig when they think you're going to zag. Yeah, dude. For Black Panther 3, you think they're going to make the E ah three? That would be horrible. I hope they do that. It's so bad, though.
01:49:55
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That's like a tell like a telltale of a potential bad movie, I feel like. Black Pan 3-er. Like Fantastik? Fantfortastic, yeah. That was a bad sign.
01:50:06
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That's all I'm saying. Yeah, probably. yeah Was that guy's name Josh Trank? Yeah. don't think he's done anything since. I know. That's sad, right? Yeah. It's kind of sad. Poor guy.
01:50:18
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He did that... chronicle movie i think before you think it was his fault i don't think so right it was studio meddling wasn't that what they say i mean who knows how would we ever know i do know wasn't there a lot of issues between josh trink and um miles teller yeah didn't they want to like fight each other they almost told me that so yeah if you're gonna give me more color do you remember what i told you back then when i remembered the story then i think that was all you said Okay, fair enough.
01:50:45
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Fair enough. Anyway. um Cool. All right, well. Cool. It's now time to get on to the topic of the show, Adrian, for episode 112. It's a topic which concerns Netflix's Tudum event announcements, which literally happened. it Tudum?
01:51:01
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To do to dumb to dumb. Yeah, I suppose. Sure. So if the event is the weird thing is that that this this event happened like just around when we recorded last time. So we were like two weeks and late to all of this.
01:51:17
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But who cares? Right. But thanks for accommodating me. Oh, yeah, because you went to BC. That's why that was so early. Victoria, BC. Yeah. Yeah. wasn't watching fun of this nation I wasn't trying to point out that you screwed us up.
01:51:30
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But now you are. No, I'm not. I'm never. No, it's fine, dude. I kind of did it now in passing. It's fine. Yeah, it's okay. Anyway, on May 31st, Netflix held their annual Ta-Dum global fan of event where they announced and teased many upcoming TV series or movies.
01:51:49
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Yeah. going to go through the list here and then we're going break that each one down. Okay. Do it. Just do it. And then if you don't have anything to say, he's like, I don't give a shit and we'll just move on from it. And I'll say if I have an if i have anything to say, I'll say it.
01:52:01
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But anyway, the first thing that they talked about, they showed off, or actually it's not, this is completely out of order. I think it's the last thing they talked about. they They showed off a new Stranger Things season five trailer and announced that the final season will be split into three parts, which is interesting.
01:52:16
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The four episodes of volume one will air on November 26th. The three episodes of volume two will launch on Christmas day. And the final season, So the finale will air on New Year's Day.
01:52:28
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I watched the trailer. New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve. Sorry. Yeah. New Year's Eve. What did you think of this? Did you watch the trailer for it? and Are you excited for the last season of Stranger Things?
01:52:39
Speaker
um I honestly don't even remember if I watched it. How long was the trailer? It's not long. It's like a teaser. I feel like they didn't reveal much. but Then I probably did watch it. don't really remember it, though. um I think this release schedule is kind of silly, personally.
01:52:52
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i kind of like it. November 26th, good day. Quality day to release stuff. But then three episodes on Christmas Day, dude? I guess everyone's off. Yeah. But the same time- that week, you have so much time then to catch up and then there's a little bit of hype for the finale. You like week to week for that reason, the anticipation.
01:53:10
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yeah Actually, that's the only reason I like week to week. To be fair, because there's a little bit of anticipation, but the week to week is the gap is too long in a week. I would rather like every three days or a week and or a release schedule of releasing every week three episodes. And then can kind of pace out what you want to watch like that. I would go with that for everything.
01:53:29
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um Netflix doing it all at once is fine because I can do it at my own pace, but there's an advantage of... Of kind of spacing it out because then everyone's talking about it for Christmas. They're all with their families. And then ah on New Year's Eve, everyone's maybe talking about it New Year's Eve parties. that's a That's kind of a sound strategy, on honestly. People get together.
01:53:47
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You put shows or movies around when people get together. They talk about it word of mouth. it it It travels and then people don't watch it. Marketing yeah itself kind of. Yeah.
01:53:59
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Theoretically. I guess it's good in that sense. I just don't know. Like, I don't know. There's always so much stuff going on on Christmas Day, on on New Year's Eve. You're not watching it on Christmas. It's not like you have to watch it or disappears. It's not a Snapchat, Adrian.
01:54:13
Speaker
It's going to be there after Christmas Day. what are you doing on Boxing Day? You chill out, right? Yeah. Yeah, I guess I'd be off on Boxing Day. um But I feel like Stranger Things is like something that gets spoiled like immediately. It's that cultural phenomenon where everyone's like, oh my god, it's it's fucking this guy. This person does this thing.
01:54:32
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So I don't know. i don't I feel like it was an odd choice to release it on those days personally because I don't think I'm going to find the time to watch it on those days. But who knows, Simon? I'm not on those days yet.
01:54:44
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Maybe I'll find the time. I think... I'm going to rewatch all the stranger things leading up to this. Whoa. My fiance's never watched it. Oh, that's good idea. Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm going to sit her beautiful butt down and make her watch it with me.
01:54:57
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That's a great idea. Yeah. Thank you, man. Thanks, dude. Because that's pretty good. It seems like based on the shows that she seems to watch and the movies that she seems to come to the theaters with us for.
01:55:11
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I feel like based on that, I think Stranger Things would probably be up her alley. There's only wi one season of Stranger Things in which I don't love. Is it three?
01:55:22
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feel like it's three, right? No, three is the mall one. I like the mall one a lot. Oh, three is the mall one. Okay, it's two. two Two, yeah. Two is like a rehash of one. Like they didn't have any ideas.
01:55:34
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They're like unsure what to do. And then they get a little bit more um cosmic and in in two. Like they they have like way more like supernatural elements. which I appreciated, but I could see why that may be turned people off.
01:55:46
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Yeah. Three was that. Cause that's when they introduced my Hawks character and stuff. Right. Yeah. her as well As well. Yeah. Yeah. mall aspect of it in like the style change of like the, cause they, they moved into another era a little bit.
01:55:57
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I think they moved into the seventies. that right? Something like that. That seems right. The eighties. that also sevens when did i don't know at the time oh boy i don't know the time stranger things when does it take place is what i'm typing in does it take place but uh yeah so yeah and then i think i don't know guess season four is so good so uh it's really good oh it mostly takes place in the 80s so as as the as a decade that makes sense of course it takes place in the 80s what am talking about of course it's not the 60s
01:56:30
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idiot like Just based on what they're doing. And they're playing D&D. Yeah. Yeah. Dint. Yeah. It makes sense. Just based on what they're wearing and stuff.
01:56:42
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But anyway, yeah, it's really good. i I'm excited. It's going to be the end and then they're going to have a million spinoffs. You think? Oh, yeah. They announced a bunch of them, didn't they?
01:56:52
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Yeah. They didn't talk about it the at the Tadam event, though. So that's not that didn't happen from from what mentioned. we won't get any. Who knows? I think we are. The Duffer brothers are, I'm sure, hard at work. Okay. The second thing that was revealed, and this one I don't think you have any interest in at all, but maybe.
01:57:07
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They revealed a Wednesday Season 2 clip while announcing the release dates for Part 1 and 2 of that season. August 6th and September 3rd respectively. So August 6th is part one and then the September 3rd is the airing of part two.
01:57:21
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I watched Wednesday. I liked it actually. It's pretty entertaining. I think that Jennifer Ortega. she's ah She's a good fit for the role. does a pretty great job in most things that she's in.
01:57:33
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She's pretty solid. Yeah. this is ah This is good. I'm not a big Addams Family guy. I did watch it a bit. like I think I watched that cartoon. Was there a cartoon as a kid? No. It was a live action TV show, right? i I watched the live action one. That's the one.
01:57:45
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I watched the live action TV show. with What's her name? I watched the movie as well. what with um oh That's the one I watched the most of. Addams. Family it was movie. and it was What's her name? is like a cool like It's like ah like ah like a boarding high school drama. Yeah, Christina Ricci was Wednesday. That's the one Who played Wednesday? In 91.
01:58:07
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Yeah, sorry. Christopher Lloyd. They were talking about, for some reason, the the the mother. What's her name? no No, no, no. I could have told you Christina Ricci. That's the only only actor I know from that.
01:58:19
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Christopher Lloyd, dude? Because Christina Ricci is also in the Wednesday show. Oh, is she? Yeah. In a pretty significant role, so it's not really a... Oh. She was also in 1995's Casper.
01:58:32
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I don't know why I say don't not really a spoiler. It's not a spoiler. I'm pretty she's in the trailer. She's also in Casper. Anything else? I liked the 1995 movie ah Casper.
01:58:44
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I did too. I have a story about that, actually. I think I meant to tell this as like a banter topic at some point, but... I was watching Casper, the friendly ghost at home. i don't know why I was home.
01:58:56
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I might have been homesick or something like that on like a Friday. i was just in the my basement like watching Casper. Alone? And then I watched the end of Casper. It was it was playing on Fox. It was playing on like the Fox chin like network channel.
01:59:09
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It was like just a movie of the week or something, a movie of the day. And my my dad comes home and he comes and he's like, what are you up to? And I'm just like, I'm just watching Casper. He's like, oh okay, that's cool.
01:59:19
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And I'm like, yeah, i'm just watching it on, I said on Fox. I think that I said it on Fox and I thought I said on Fox pretty much my whole life. But then I thought about it recently and I think maybe I didn't say on Fox.
01:59:32
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And the reason why i said that is because my dad then said, you watched it on what? You can't watch that channel. And like, what am I was so confused as a kid? i'm like, I can't watch Fox. Like what's wrong with others? Like it's like so it's like no i wasn't watching Fox Business. I was watching like the Fox. There was like there was many different versions of the Fox. I think it was like a Fox like family. It wasn't there.
01:59:53
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So I was watching that version of it. And I realized later in life, and I think I only realized this like three, four, five years ago, that I probably said, fucks. And i know that I did that.
02:00:05
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He thought I was watching like a porn channel on TV because he was so alarmed. I was shocked. He was like, what are you talking about? You can't watch that. Don't watch that. And he kind of laughed a little bit. Like he thought it was funny initially, but it was me as a child. I was a kid and I didn't know what I was saying. I just said the word weird in like a lispy way.
02:00:26
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Anyway, Casper getting fucking blasted. like, what kind of Casper was this?
02:00:35
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Yeah, anyway. Cool.
02:00:39
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ah Okay, well, that's it. so Let's move on to the next thing we that was ah at this event here that that i I wrote out of order. ah They they also also talked about the Guillermo del Toro fall releasing movie Frankenstein, which is starring Oscar Isaac. And I watched the trailer for this because this trailer was the best thing that I saw.
02:01:03
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I think from all everything that i watched from this. I'm very interested in this movie because of the trailer. I think it's excellent. Also, Oscar Isaac's great. So yeah, is is Jacob Elordi playing Frankenstein's monster?
02:01:16
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I believe so. Yeah, I believe so. Not in the trailer, though. I don't think you don't see him show Frankenstein's monster. It's cool. It's I like that because it shows this um ah man. What's the word I'm looking for? Like it it shows.
02:01:30
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i don't know. I can't. What's supposed to be like words? It's it. it It shows this this this holding back. They're like, yeah, yeah we're going hold this back.
02:01:40
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Yeah. I don't know what the word would Restraint. It shows restraint. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was strange from a trailer perspective because like a lot of trailers just give everything away. Yeah. A hundred percent. It's a problem in, in modern trailers, especially like we're, we're gearing up you and I to play death stranding. The trailers for that are way too long and they seem to reveal too much. And that game is going to be remarkable. I'm sure. And I'm very excited for it. But I, I, I have also had to stop watching the trailers and you stop watching them right from the beginning. Cause you're,
02:02:09
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You were smart. yeah So watch the first one. I'm like, great. I'm never watching another one again. Again, bringing up the game awards that we talked about at the beginning, there's a trailer for Death Stranding at the game awards at one of the press conferences. Summer Games Fest. Oh, Summer Games Fest. Sorry. Yeah, and my apologies.
02:02:22
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And i literally the trailer started and I ran. i ran away from the TV and I closed the door. I had people over. That's just yell when it's done. That was the best part of it is that you ran away.
02:02:33
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we um My family has a family friend. ah His name is Owen. and And whenever there would be anything, we would go to a movie together. We we went to a movie. We saw Age of Ultron together, my brother Owen and and I. And he watch we were in the movie theater watching ah watching the trailers. And then there was a trailer. I think it was for Rogue One.
02:02:54
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I can't remember quite the timeline, but I might have been Rogue One, one of the newer Star Wars movies. And he literally got up and left the theater. Like we were in the middle of the seats in like ah a very very tall, like a pretty big size theater. He got up, he like looked away and like just left. And I was like, wait, where did he go? And my brother's like, he doesn't want to see the trailer because he doesn't want to get spoiled.
02:03:15
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I'm like, oh, wow, that's incredible. But he didn't do that for any other trailer, just Star Wars. It was just like very crucial that he left. for If it was Rogue One, definitely maybe worth it. That trailer, the first trailer for Rogue One, though, just excellent because of that alarm sound.
02:03:29
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The Empire alarm sound. It just pulls a reaction out of me. It's great. It's awesome. It's a good one. feel like I nailed nostalgia the alarm, by the way.
02:03:40
Speaker
No. and That was just a knowledge about as good as your Raptors. your Your raptor noise that you make. Don't even start with me. so Sounds like a seagull, like a dying seagull. No, it doesn't. Do it. Do it and let the audience decide. The one person who decided to listen through the entire Mission Impossible history.
02:03:57
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The history of Mission Impossible by
Guillermo del Toro and Upcoming Projects
02:04:00
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Simon Eadie. Yeah, right. ah cooku yeah Okay. What are we on?
02:04:08
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Oh, yeah. So I'm very excited about this. I'm super. Is Guillermo del Toro's... it's funny. Guillermo del Toro's in Death Stranding. That's a weird coincidence. um But no, Guillermo del Toro's last movie, wasn't it the movie we saw it together in theaters? What was that called? We saw it at like a double bill. Water.
02:04:24
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No. We saw a Shape of Water movie. We saw double Wasn't last movie the Pinocchio movie? didn't watch that. Did he do Pinocchio? I thought so. Wait, no. That was still before.
02:04:36
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Am I wrong? You don't even know what I'm talking about. We went to we went to the Waterloo Theater. Remember? Remember? No. We went to the Waterloo Princess Twin Theater and we went to see we saw a movie by Paul Thomas Anderson and we saw a movie by
02:04:55
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by Guillermo del Toro. Nightmare Alley. You're right. Pinocchio was after It was a year after. Well done. Well done with your years. Good job. Look at that. and don't even watch that Pinocchio movie. And then, no, we did Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities.
02:05:10
Speaker
Yeah, the other one we watched that that that same day when we watched Nightmare Alley was Licorice Pizza by Paul Thomas Anderson. Yeah. Remember that day at least at all? Dude, i remember that day. I remember spending that time with you. Okay.
02:05:21
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I've been chasing a double feature with you ever since, but you're always like, I'm tired. it was a It was a double.
02:05:30
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It was a Bradley Cooper double time. Yeah, brad yeah it was a double feature it was a Bradley Cooper double feature. Yeah. Or is it double Bradley Cooper feature, something like that. Anyway, let's move on. um Do you think this will release theatrically, the Frankenstein movie?
02:05:44
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I'm going to assume no because Pinocchio didn't. And that was also a Netflix movie.
02:05:53
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Hmm. Interesting. That's true. That's true. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it might not. there was all I looked it up to see if they already had a plan for it. Google AI instantly said, yes, it will have a theatrical release. And I was like, hmm, I don't think that's right.
02:06:10
Speaker
And then I looked it up some more and then everyone's asking whether it's going to have a theatrical release. So people don't know. I'm smarter than Google Gemini. I would say no, probably too. I think and there'll be other probably before Narnia, but I think Narnia is the big one that's going to have...
02:06:24
Speaker
Like Greta Gerwig's Narnia will be the big IMAX release in theaters. Rock and roll. From Netflix.
Netflix's One Piece Live-Action Series
02:06:30
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But Narnia was not at this Tudem event. So the next thing that they talked about or at some point in the show was the 2026 season two of the One Piece live action series.
02:06:40
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ah They teased season two by showing the character, the strange ass weird squirrel looking character. Yeah. Tony, Tony chopper. yeah And Adrian, I'm not a big one piece guy, but I know you are. I know you watched all 1200 episodes of the animated show. And of course you watched ah the live action show, which you've said you like. So yes what do you think of, of this?
02:07:02
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Yes, Simon. I've watched, i' I'm watching One Piece right now as we're talking. It's constantly playing. That's the only way you could watch it because how yeah how would you get through that many episodes? really no No, I actually haven't watched much of the One Piece anime. I watched like the Toonami stuff that aired on my TV, but again, I don't really remember it. And then I watched the first few episodes of the anime after finishing the live action series because I really liked it.
02:07:26
Speaker
So I don't, like I've only seen this Tony, Tony Chopper fella in pictures. I haven't seen him in the show, I don't think. um but he looks like a cute little fella he's got like moose horns he looks like a bear squirrel man bear pig from south park not actually but um yeah i don't know i thought this was a cute way to talk about the second season and i feel like this tony tony chopper is going to be a welcome addition to the cast and crew
Netflix Content Strategy and Release Patterns
02:07:51
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just seems like a of friendly little fella there's something about it when i saw it it struck me as that what is that animal boy it was animal boy with uh
02:08:00
Speaker
Ooh, I know what you're talking about. Nick Forte. Will Forte? Will show? Yeah, know what you're talking about. Animal Boy. Animal Boy, the show on Netflix. Sweet Child. Robert Downey Jr. Sweet Pea. Robert Downey Jr.'s produced show. Oh, Sweet Tooth.
02:08:13
Speaker
There we go. No, can't be Sweet Tooth. Is that Sweet Tooth? It is Sweet Tooth. It is Sweet Tooth, 100%, dude. Isn't there like a a character in like Twisted Metal named Sweet Tooth as well? It's just a coincidence. Yeah, there I it's just coincidence. The clown is Sweet Tooth, right? Yeah.
02:08:26
Speaker
I think so. Something like that. But no, Sweet Tooth is the name of the show. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Because he's Sweet Tooth and then he's Big Man. I watched the first two seasons of that. I think it's done.
02:08:37
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i i don't really like season two. So didn't bother with the third season. Oh. The first season was really good. Yeah, liked the first season quite a bit. was good. Netflix has got some good shows, like overall.
02:08:49
Speaker
The problem is is they dilute it. that's That's always the issue for me. They've got great content. Yeah, and I feel like it takes a long while. And again, like when you drop all the episodes at once, the break in between seasons, that's already a few years, feels that much longer.
02:09:04
Speaker
They need to do the – this is why this is a good plan to release things in these segments. They should do they should do these half seasons constantly. I think that's a really good idea. Yeah. I mean, they did that with Arcane, right? They did three episodes, three episodes, three episodes, three episodes. That's still done too quickly, though, because it's just week on week. So, like, you kind of have to split, like, you you season major three.
02:09:24
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You season four. Sorry, we're on season five, right? No, the last season is four. Is it not? No, I think we're five. Yeah, I think we made a mistake last episode because we talked about this. Because, like, the first one is in New York. The second one is in l L.A. The third one is in l L.A.,
02:09:41
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The fourth one's in the UK. Yeah, five. Yeah, okay, it is season five. Didn't they drop all of you season five at
Upcoming Crime Thrillers and Comedies
02:09:47
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once, though? Yes, so mistake is my point. But season four, they didn't. That was my point.
02:09:52
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ah Season four, they split it into two, and it was a good idea.
02:09:58
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yeah Anyway, okay. um Out of yeah this discussion about Tony Tony Chopper, what a weird ass name. ah Number five on this my list here is ah the Daniel Craig starring third Knives Out movie where he plays the the classic detective Benoit Blanc.
02:10:16
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In Rian Johnson, director Rian Johnson's sequel to Knives Out called Wake Up Dead Man, A Knives Out Mystery. ah This was teased. It's a very small teaser. It's mostly text, honestly, from my perspective.
02:10:28
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And then they released some photos. Oh, okay, yeah. And they gave a ah release date. December 12th is the... is the day in which this comes out. Cool. What did you think of the trailer?
02:10:39
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and I mean, there wasn't much of it, but like again, the first two Knives Out movies were really good. so And again, I like The Last Jedi. um so Yeah, I like Looper too. so Yeah, I like Looper as well, Simon.
02:10:53
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i kind of although I still want to watch, although it's on CBC Gem, which isn't the greatest, most sound streaming service, but I'm pretty sure it's on CBC Gem. Maybe it's on Global. I think it might be on City. No, City We didn't even say the name of it.
02:11:07
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but Poker Face. Sorry, Poker Face. It is, it is. real We just talk about it. We just that are on the same wavelength. Nobody knows what we're talking about. Yeah, Poker Face. The peak the Peacock Show with Natasha Lyonne.
02:11:20
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I think it's on City TV, Simon. Is it? Yeah. I can't tell if you're serious, but... I am serious. Okay, okay. Well, yeah, i'll probably...
02:11:31
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Probably jump into that at some point. But tool anyway. I'm excited. I'm cool. I'm going watch this. they Oh, actually, I don't know if you ever heard Rian Johnson say this, but pretty sure he said this.
02:11:42
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So obviously, Knies Out Mysteries are whodunits. Yes. The poker face is the reverse, apparently. You see the killer. Did you hear him say that? Yeah. and Yeah. So you know who the killer is right off the bat. And it's it's not about the the end. It's about the journey to get there and the cast of characters.
02:12:00
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Yeah. It's like, how did they do it? As opposed to whodunit. Whodunit. It wasn't, I can't remember. He used some key phrase. Maybe it wasn't who how how they did it. But anyway, I thought that was pretty neat.
02:12:13
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A neat flip. Yeah. Okay. um The other thing that was talked about, and I am actually pretty interested in this because Ben Affleck and Bat Damon work really well together. um Obviously, they're friends from years back.
02:12:26
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But the crime thriller Rip was teased, and it was given a January 2026 release date. But the teaser, apparently I couldn't find it. And maybe i I didn't look now. So maybe maybe it's been released finally live to everyone.
02:12:41
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but Not live, but to everybody on YouTube. But apparently it was shown live to the audience and live on the stream. But then they removed it somehow. So the stream audience can see it, but not...
02:12:52
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Not us, I guess. I don't know. There was a scene, there with though, that they have even on the Tadam page that they show Ben Affleck and Matt Damon with the Cookie Monster because obviously Netflix just got that agreement with Sesame Street.
02:13:06
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So that was kind of fun. And the Cookie Monster is going be a main character in this movie as well, I thought. Yeah. no he's not this is a crime drama i think it's rated r so i don't think the cookie monster yeah the cookie monster is a murderer he's like a he's a psychopathic murderer in this yeah he he thinks that he starts to he takes mushrooms and starts to see other people's heads as cookies exactly human heads it's pretty crazy and he starts to eat their their limbs and faces off pcp baby yeah It's hell of a drug. Anyway, let's move on to another thing out of order here ah that I wrote down.
02:13:42
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And it's the Mike Newichuk directed sequel to Happy Gilmore, Happy Gilmore 2 starring Eminem. eminem
02:13:54
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yeah adam sandler um and is eminem also in it he could be yeah he is is he yeah he is i wasn't yeah i was making a half joke but i didn't see him in the trailer more to you yeah he's in the trailer i only know this because of memes dude eminem happy go more the second are you typing this in yeah happy go more
02:14:23
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my i um Yeah, Eminem pops up in the Happy Gilmore 2 trailer. No, I'm not. I'm just being serious. Adam Sandler about Eminem. Eminem pops up in the trailer with a full beard. Oh, it's just a clip somebody clipped. Yeah, it's came out. arguing with Adam Sandler in the new clip.
02:14:39
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Yeah. Let's look at this. Oh, it's a Facebook link. Come on.
02:14:43
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Oh, I see him. Yeah, that's so quick. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Do you think this will be good? I don't know. i I've never watched Happy Gilmore.
02:14:54
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You've never seen Happy Gilmore at all? No. Do like Adam Sandler's movies? I do like them. I don't go out to see them, but I do like them. I grew up watching Big Daddy. That was one of my favorite movies as a child. Oh.
02:15:07
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Yeah. But I never watched Happy Gilmore. Huh. Mike Mewichuk is interesting because he he directed some of the um episodes of What We Do in the Shadows, oh which I really love.
02:15:23
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Like the TV show, not the movie, obviously, because it's set up. um
Niagara Falls Pride Month Anecdotes
02:15:28
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Yeah, okay. But he also directed Murder Mystery, which I'm not a big fan of. It's not terrible.
02:15:34
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I don't think I ever mentioned this to you. Maybe I did. I must have. But I watched all of Murder Mystery except for the last maybe 10 minutes. And i just never went back to it. Okay. We watched this in the UK, strangely.
02:15:48
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We just like, we saved it on our iPad and we watched it in the UK. Oh, really? yeah Yeah. I watched it at an Airbnb. i think took like, uh, the first year me and my fiance.
02:16:01
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Yeah, dude. and my fiance. We like, I took her out for her birthday. was the first year we were dating. We went to Niagara Falls cause her birthday lands on, um, the day before ah Canada Day.
02:16:13
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we went to Niagara Falls to see all like the the the the beautiful fireworks. and I'll never forget it because it was like June is Pride Month. I don't know if i don't know if you guys know this, um but June is Pride Month and Niagara Falls has like the the rainbow colors on on on the rain, like on the on the falls.
02:16:31
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Right. As soon as midnight hit, as soon as it hit, they're like, we're done being gay. They took off all the lights. It was like literally who the clock struck midnight. They're like, we're not gay anymore.
02:16:44
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It was immediate, dude. I'll never forget that. I was like, oh, my God. And they.
02:16:51
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That's crazy. Because people always talk about that, like the corporate aspect of it. Like, oh, you know, Gay Pride Month, you got to do it for the clout, basically. Like these companies are just doing it so that they can have better marketing.
02:17:04
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yeah But that is literally an example of that in a way. Like, why wouldn't you just keep it for the night and then the next day you just don't do it again? Yeah. That makes more sense. saying No, too much gay for you.
02:17:17
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That's it. I'm so sorry. We had a whole month of being gay. We can't do it anymore. Yeah. We can't do it any longer. That's it. the The light operator sitting there waiting for the clock to strike midnight just so could hit the fucking un-gay button.
02:17:35
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It was on a timer. Imagine i was a guy. He's like the the advocate for not being gay. He's just like a really like – he's a homophobic dude and it's like who wants to do this job? And like the Gary puts his hand out.
02:17:52
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I'll do it. I've been waiting all month for this.
02:17:58
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That's ridiculous. Good shit. Good shit. One of the movies that I watched from... I'm looking through his filmography,
Adam Sandler Films and Sports Movie Appeal
02:18:05
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Adam Sandler. And one of the movies that oh always struck me as one of the most ridiculous movies I've ever seen. Probably. i can't i can't remember exactly, but there's some really ridiculous moments in it. Have you seen Billy Madison?
02:18:16
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No. Oh, man. It's crazy stuff. I wonder if Happy Gilmore wouldn't stand up as much as... it did back then. Like, what was it on Rotten Tomatoes? Like, I'm curious. I thought it was great.
02:18:28
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I was also into like sports a lot as a, as a kid and like growing up. So like a golf movie kind of like appealed to me in that way too. And there's this idea that he's ah actually a hockey player, which I am, I was at least. And so this idea that a hockey player is playing golf in the most absurd way possible.
02:18:45
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And i would I would play golf with my dad and play hockey. and i would be like, oh, I'm going to happy go Gilmore to shot. And the funniest thing is whenever I happy Gilmore to shot in golf, it always worked out. That's not bad.
02:18:56
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63%. Where is all hell? I'm assuming that's what it says. Every time you happy Gilmore to shot in golf. I actually had no idea that was the premise. he He runs at the shot. like he He does a running start. he's like he busy He's basically playing golf like a slap shot in hockey.
02:19:10
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so he's He's hitting any any drive, he drives with a slap shot. Nice. and so I did i done did that as like a joke with my dad multiple times, and it always pretty much worked out way better than anyone thought.
02:19:22
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He would be like, don't do that. and Then I would do it, and it would work. He's like, all right, I guess it's fine because it would work out. We didn't have to go search for the ball somewhere in the woods. Anyway. Okay. um Yeah, it looks cool. I'm interested in this. It's going to be cool. I think you should see it, though.
02:19:36
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i I'm curious because you saw Who Be Halloween. No offense, but that's not a good movie. It's a great movie. And I think you would like this. I think you would potentially like Happy Gilmore. Maybe. Better than Who Be Halloween.
02:19:47
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There's also that shit the classic shit for breakfast line.
02:19:53
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know if you've heard that
Squid Game Season 3 Teaser
02:19:55
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line. I don't know. Maybe I have. Can you repeat it? They reference it in the second movie trailer. Oh, okay. Like directly. Anyway, okay. Yeah, so the last thing that I noticed from the Tadam event that we can talk about here, and it's a pretty big one, I would argue.
02:20:11
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is the Squid Game Season 3 teaser. They teased Season 3 of Squid Game, and then they gave a new trailer for it as well. I'm i'm guessing you probably saw this one because I feel like this is probably the biggest, most relevant.
02:20:26
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teaser that was at the event for us just because we just talked about it on our close to the episode. But um there's a June 27th release date for this. It will have six episodes specifically. what do you think if you if you did watch it?
02:20:38
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Funnily enough, so I mean, I didn't watch this trailer because I was like, I'm going to watch the show. i was like, this is one of those situations. I'm your friend Owen that left the theater. I wasn't watching this live, but when I saw it come up, I'm like, oh cool. I can't wait. I know when the release date is. i don't need to see a teaser.
02:20:53
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I know what's going to happen. Actually, I have no idea what's going to happen. That's kind of why I'm excited about it. So I chose not to watch it. My thought is it's going to go the way of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. But, you maybe that's still my theory.
02:21:04
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This is basically it's Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory for adults. as like that. I don't know how I didn't notice that in season one. It's very. Well, he won't get chocolate. What was that? on I feel like it wasn't really on the nose in season one. like Like, I feel like there I feel like I wouldn't I wouldn't have guessed that in season one. I can see where you're coming from in season two.
02:21:23
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But in season one, I don't think I would have been like, this is what they're doing. But there's this idea that Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, that they're in this kind of weird-ass, demented game, and they keep getting eliminated. Like, he's eliminating – Willy Wonka is eliminating children.
02:21:37
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Yeah. And they got a bunch of helpers, and, like, they're little oompa-loompas, they're going around and, like, taking the bodies out. And, and like, like it's it's a strange thing. And the oompa-loomps are like, yes, this is fine, somehow.
02:21:48
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and we drew And that's the same thing as these people in the pink suits. They're, like, kind of – They're just doing the bidding of this, like – masked man you're like what the hell is happening and you're just like not and then there's really the idea of willy wonka the chocolate chocolateco factories there can only be one like there's like we're gonna eliminate everyone until the end and and don't know that's that's kind of the idea it is similar i guess it is even more similar in the second season in some way but i that is a movie maybe that's the recommendation i should make for you I really like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Sorry, am I talking about the same movie? Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The one that's good.
02:22:24
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The one with Gene Wilder. That's Willy Wonka. Yeah, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Yeah. It's really great. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is the Johnny Depp one. I watched that one. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, I don't recommend i't I don't care. watched it.
02:22:36
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I thought it was the best movie I ever created. Okay, well, then you're going like this one better because it's bad. I know. Impossible. It's also frightening. There's like scenes in it that are frightening. there was we There was a moment where it was in my elementary school, I think. They played it in like the gym, like for some reason. Yeah.
02:22:51
Speaker
And I was like, I don't know why, but I remember thinking like years later. Well, no, I know why. No, it was it was years later. Yeah, I remember thinking that it was it was quite – there's a scary scene in it. that I was like, I feel like I was terrified by this. It was seen in a tunnel.
02:23:06
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It's like a very dark, very dark tunnel where a fairy goes through. like It has no arguably no purpose at all. um In terms of a practical purpose, I'm not sure what it is, but Willy Wonka definitely likes tormenting children. Anyway, it's a very fun scene.
Notable Absences from Netflix Event
02:23:23
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It's a very fun scene to watch. But as a cut as a kid, the the scenes, like the actual imagery is quite frightening.
02:23:33
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And so thinking back, I think about how it was seen misplaced to be played an elementary school. But anyway. Okay. Well, that's it. That's all that was there um from what I ah saw anyway. But there were some things that were missing that I thought were notable. The Witcher is one I mentioned earlier in this podcast episode, which is strange.
02:23:51
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There was no Bridgerton, which I thought was really weird because they have a season coming up and they just got renewed. don't know you saw that. They got renewed for another season. and Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that weird? They didn't show the at this the fourth season that's coming up or the third season? I think so. And it's not coming out until next year.
02:24:07
Speaker
which is crazy. And then they already renewed it for the following two seasons. Like you must
Anticipation for Jason Bateman's Black Rabbit Series
02:24:11
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have a very firm plan. It must, it honestly must have so much viewership that it just doesn't matter. Yeah. That's that's fair. And then the last thing, and this is the thing that literally I care about the most because I i don't watch Bridgerton and I stopped watching the Witcher after they did a really dumb decision in season two, ah pretty much.
02:24:28
Speaker
There's a thing that wasn't there that I was shocked because I'm pretty sure it's coming coming out this year. It's Black Rabbit, which I've mentioned many times this year. It's the Jason Bateman, directed TV show with Jude Law, which which has a show runner from,
02:24:44
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I'm forgetting now. It wasn't Ozark, right? right No, because the Ozark guy is doing the lantern show, which is crazy. um But let me look this up.
02:24:56
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Let me look it up. Let me look it up. Let me look look it up, dude. But Jude Law, Jason Bateman, no, it's not going to show it to me right away. Is it? Of course not. Whatever. Anyway, that that was missing.
02:25:09
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And I thought that was strange. I thought it was weird. Yeah. So don't know you've got any anything that you thought was weird that was missing or not. I don't know. I can't really think of any other Netflix show that I'm like watching actively.
02:25:24
Speaker
I got to watch you, but that's already out. Stranger Things. They talked about. Yeah. One Piece. Squid Game. Those really the only shows I got on the go on the Netflix. I can't really think of anything else that I'm waiting for. Yeah, okay. so ah He wrote... This guy is Zach Balin.
02:25:41
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He wrote King Richard. I mentioned that before. He also wrote the Gran Turismo movie. I gotta watch that. I do want to watch that. I think it just hit a streaming service I have.
02:25:53
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and think That's directed by Neil Blomkamp too, which is interesting too. Yeah, District 9. Yeah, so that's cool. But anyway... Yeah, cool. to jump I thought it was a cool thing to have a split focus special segment for because there was a lot of and little announcements in there.
02:26:07
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I agree. This was a really cool special segment, dude. I'm glad that you brought it back. I love your sarcasm. It's not sarcasm, dude.
02:26:17
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Sure it isn't. Oh, man. I love that you brought back this segment. This was a great idea. what do you want? Is that what you want, dude? No.
02:26:28
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It's okay. What do you want? It's okay. Let's let's move on now segment of show. This was a great segment, Simon. Acknowledge it. You did a good job. I don't think it was. I think it was a failure. But let's move on.
02:26:39
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I'm going to move on now. I'm hard on myself, okay? and And I also think you're you're mocking me. So we're going to move on now to a segment of our show that I like to call A Look to the Future. Wow.
02:26:52
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It's a portion of our podcast, Adrian, where each of us present at least three of our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between June and June 30th of 2025.
02:27:05
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of twenty twenty five
02:27:08
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As this customer, I will let you pick first. What is your pick for this upcoming week? Your first pick? Oh, Simon, it's something real good. It's something really good. you know This is where you throw like throw my idea asunder and pick something different. but i think you know What do you mean?
02:27:27
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I know what you're going to pick. Do you think I'm going to pick 28 years later? That it makes the most sense. Yeah, because that's what I'm picking, Simon. It's coming out June 20th. I'm very excited for this.
02:27:39
Speaker
and Maybe I'm going to rewatch the other two movies leading up to this. Maybe I'll do it. You think 28 weeks later, though, is related? Because it's not Danny Boyle and it's not Alex Garland. You know what's crazy is I've been noticing on... She's in it.
02:27:54
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Yeah. I've been noticing on ah on various social media that there's like a scene in the beginning, I think, in the of that movie that keeps popping up. So good. Right. yeah It's the one where like the guy's running away from his house or whatever.
02:28:07
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Yeah. that Honestly, like one of the best openings of a movie. i know that I don't think that movie's particularly great, but that opening, like five minutes of that movie, terrifying. So well done.
02:28:18
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It's so good. yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's cool with Jeremy Renner in that movie. But that that's Robert Carlyle in that scene, whom I kind of like because I've seen him in a few things. and but Once Upon a Time, Simon. Yeah, Once Upon a Time is actually a thing I've seen him in the most. Most screen time. That's a lot of makeup he had to put on for Rumpelstiltskin.
02:28:36
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Pretty impressive. He does a good job. He does a good job on that show. Okay, yeah, 28 years later. we got We got to watch it. What day is it today? We're recording this on the 13th, so seven days away.
02:28:47
Speaker
So exactly next We go a Thursday night. You want to go a Thursday night? Is this something that your fiancé is going to want to watch? Because my fiancé will not want to watch this. I don't know. I'll ask her. That's a good point.
02:28:58
Speaker
Because I want to watch this. Yeah, it's exciting. Yeah, maybe I'll be a little scared. Maybe I'll hold your hand. oh Oh, okay. um The next thing, the thing I'm going to pick here is ah the June 25th premiere of The Bear, Adrian.
02:29:15
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The Bear comes back. It returns to Hulu? No, FX. Yeah, Disney Plus for us. FX, FX, FX. It's on FX, right? No, I thought it was Hulu.
02:29:26
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It's all dropping at once. No, The Bear Network. Yeah, but it's on a a linear network. Wait, wait. FX on Who? FX on Who.
02:29:37
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Yeah. Okay. Because they're dropping the entire season at once. Yeah, but they're... Like, if I... I mean, if you just look up the bear, that the the actual, like... It shows FX. as Yeah, it shows FX. It's very, very prominent.
02:29:49
Speaker
Yeah. FX is such a... intriguing network i used to at a time there was a time in which i watched a lot of fx like a lot fargo fargo was one of them trying to think of anarchy it reminds me of like amc yeah amc there was a time which i watched like almost like predominantly the good shows i was watching mad men breaking bad you mentioned actually really i really liked halt and catch fire for the time i watched it as well um The Walking Dead, of course.
02:30:18
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It was all coming out at the same time. and The Walking Dead first couple seasons, a few seasons, were really good and really like on top of everyone's mind. Yeah. but yeah Anyway.
02:30:31
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Okay. Cool. Good choice. Good choice. I'm excited for that as well, Simon. I hope it's better than the last season because the weakest season is by far season three. I don't think it's easy i agree, but I still really like season three. I do, but it's forgettable. Season two is remarkable.
02:30:46
Speaker
yeah there's I remember a lot of season three though but I guess it's the more most recent so it makes sense why I remember it. The thing about season three is it feels like it goes through the motions. like There's so much that happens in season two. like So much.
02:30:58
Speaker
The plot is moving forward. The first season is an establishing season which is great and the season two is moving forward. Characters have so much development and then season three feels like almost like a regression. like the Characters don't develop at all and then they just kind of stand still.
02:31:12
Speaker
There's good shot episodes and there's like There's one episode that's really good and they go back in time and they do a thing. The pregnancy episode's also really good. That's good. but I love that episode. Really, we're not moving. Yeah, that was good. That was good.
02:31:23
Speaker
There's like a few episodes that are great, but it's a great... No, don't get me wrong. An amazing TV show. Amazing through and through. I just think the season three is the weakest. but Yeah, but I do agree with you. think the weakest. crazy. I can't even believe That's one of the best seasons of any TV show ever.
02:31:38
Speaker
Like legitimately. There's one episode in that that like literally... The flashback one. It's incredibly relatable and unfortunately... and And it made me want to pull my hair out. and i And I love it so much. It was just so well shot and so well acted and so shockingly casted and... yeah I know. The cast of that show is fucking bananas. It's crazy. That is the one thing about the bear is the cast of that show is genuinely unbelievable.
02:32:04
Speaker
like if And it's like... It's unbelievable, but it's also, you don't even, you don't, they just fall into the character so well that it's not even important at all. That's what's, they could have like, they could like George Clooney play a prominent role in that. And it's just so well written. And and like George Clooney would be like in it.
02:32:21
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Like they're all in it. They're all like feel, you know, it's, yeah there's something neat. One of the episodes in season four is being written by both John Bernthal and Evan Moss Baccarat.
02:32:34
Speaker
Nice. Which is neat. But I'd never made this connection and I don't know how. i don't know if I made this connection to you to you before. I don't think I have. But Eben Moss, Bachrach, and and uh john burthall are in the punisher series literally the leads in that series and i'd never really connected that in thinking about the bear at any point and they're best friends in the bear so i'm like this is so weird that i never even realized it but also evan moss backtrack i didn't even i don't see him in that punisher show and he was good in the show it's just he has long hair and it's just
02:33:10
Speaker
He looks like a different human being. Yeah. And he's in like, he's Andor as well. And he's in a great role in Andor. He's so good. So, everyone's backtrack blown up, blown up like Pedro Pascal in a way.
02:33:22
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Yeah. He's in like really big stuff. Fantastic Four. He's going to be in that. Yeah. His voice. With Pedro For most of the movie. Yeah. Anyway, what's your next pick?
02:33:33
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My next pick, Simon, is M3Gin2.
02:33:37
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That is coming out on June 27th. What? It's Megan 2. M3gan 2. Oh, I don't even have that written. Crazy. yeah Usually I like have that as it would have that as a backup. Oh. Sorry, go go on. It's your pick.
02:33:49
Speaker
It's your pick. no I was just going to say, this movie looks fucking absurd, and it looks like it's going to be a really fun time. The music choices and the dancing is unbelievable in the trailer. Yeah. I like it. I like the first one. I i thought it was silly.
02:34:02
Speaker
It knows what it is. This is I really like this kind of horror where it's cut like the first one honestly was kind of like a like a slasher. But again, can't be slasher. It knew what it was. This one, it almost seems like it's got almost going the superhero movie route, which is kind of funny.
02:34:16
Speaker
And again, it's very self-aware. I'm pretty stoked for this one. I think this is going to be a really, really good time because it it honestly is kind of like a superhero movie, like a Marvel origin story movie. It's like it's M3 and fighting herself like a like a different version of herself. Ridiculous. um It's stupid. The trailer is really good, though, and they're just going right in, ah like all in on it. Like this bitch is back or whatever.
02:34:38
Speaker
um It's stupid, but I'm i'm stoked. I'm going to watch this. don't know about like day one, but there's so many good movies, man. It's Do you think if this does well enough, they'll just call the next movie again m three good three again? M3 again?
02:34:51
Speaker
I hope so. I know you do. I know you hope it. um there's ah There's something I meant to say. i forgot about this. The last time we did picks... I don't know if you you just have like a bad source or you just, you skipped a bunch of things, but I'm shocked that you did not pick predator killer of killers.
02:35:09
Speaker
I know, dude, I noticed that after, i don't know what happened. My brain wasn't functioning at that time. I must've missed it. And then there was all, there was ah another movie that dangerous animals movie with, with Jai Courtney that I want to watch, which is actually getting pretty damn good reviews. Yeah.
02:35:23
Speaker
And like we finished the episode and I like, I was taking a urine, urine break and I was like scrolling. I'm like, Oh my God. Killer of Killers. I totally forgot about that. I saw Killer of Killers, but I literally, because I usually pick six picks, although we usually present three each just to kind of fill in the gaps.
02:35:40
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But I was so sure you pick Killer of Killers that i'm like, that's a waste of a filler pick because i i it's not going to be helpful. And then when we recorded, didn't have it written down, so I forgot about it. And I just never said anything. But I was like, this is a 100% something that you would have...
02:35:54
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picked i'm a fool dude that's hulu as well right yes yeah yeah so disney plus 95 on rotten tomatoes you kicked me off your your account you know what's crazy about this my family still to this day every time i see them they think it's a funny joke to say yeah i kicked them off of the netflix account as if i chose to make the password sharing rules It's very annoying.
02:36:18
Speaker
It's not even a funny joke, but my dad, I think, said it earnestly. Like, I think initially he thought I was doing it on purpose because I also cancel come back. So he's like, oh, you just kicked this off and cancel.
02:36:29
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I'm like, dude, you can port over your stuff. Just port it over to another yeah another Netflix account. But he doesn't even want to use Netflix. He freaking pirates everything. He use a freaking Android box or whatever the shit.
02:36:41
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Yeah.
02:36:44
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Good old Android box, you know? good shit, dude. It's good shit. Honestly, like. What? I can't I can't really blame people like at this point to pirate like so much stuff. you can I mean, I can't I can't blame. I can't talk about.
02:37:01
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But I just feel like it's it's gotten so absurd. And again, like I feel like a lot of these streaming services, I'm talking about Crave, honestly, in particular, have gotten worse somehow.
02:37:11
Speaker
Why is Crave so bad? Why is Graves so Because you're spending the least amount of money on it. i The French thing is ridiculous. Again, no one wants to watch an English movie filmed in Hollywood in French, even if you're in France. Why would you need to watch it dubbed in France?
02:37:27
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It doesn't make sense. If you're in French, you're in Quebec, it doesn't matter if you're in French. If you're in French. If you only speak French, if this is what you want, I'm shocked by this because if it was a French movie made in France, I would want to watch it In French.
02:37:43
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In France. I would want to watch that French movie filmed in France, in France, in French. Correct. That's right. Nice. And then read the subtitles.
02:37:53
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Because that's the way to do it. Because that's the immersive way. I wouldn't even want subtitles. As the director intended.
02:37:59
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Actually, i guess the director intended you to know French. but Anyway, my next pick is a movie from Pixar called Elio. A June 20th release in theaters.
02:38:11
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Pixar no longer, since since the pandemic, no longer doing the old Disney Plus releases for Pixar. Like Luca. Luca was not in theaters, notably.
02:38:22
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um Oh, Gato, by the way, is going to be theaters. I'm pretty sure. would hope so. um But Elio will be theaters. in theaters on june 20th are you excited for this one i don't dude i actually have no idea what the fuck this movie is about i don't even think i'm gonna see the trailer huh pixar always kills it you know so i feel like i should know more about it yeah i don't know what happened but like at a certain point in time i was like i i just kind of fell out a i don't want to say i fell out of love Because I still love so many Pixar movies. But like, i just kind of stopped caring about Disney and Pixar animated films.
02:38:59
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and The last few. Like, I didn't watch Elemental or whatever that one was called. I didn't watch. That one was okay. Inside 2 really good, though. You should watch Inside Out 2. I do want to watch that. i don't know why I haven't.
02:39:11
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I've got to be prepared to cry. There was also, what was that one? With the star. It was like a little star. Oh. And then she's, it's like the woman. So useful. What a description. It's a woman. Couldn't be better. just Let's just type in Pixar movies and we're going to go from there.
02:39:30
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Woman with star. woman with You know what movie I really love? Soul. That's a great one. I love that movie a lot. like i think it's a Star, Pixar. Onward? Wasn't that good?
02:39:42
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It was okay. Did you watch Onward? Nah. Yeah. yeah that's Pixar is my dad's a pair of pants, right? Exactly. Coco, amazing. Wish. Wish is the movie I'm talking about.
02:39:53
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Wait, Wish isn't a Pixar movie. That's a Disney movie. I know. Yeah. Yeah, but ah yeah I love Coco. That was before the pandemic. Post-pandemic, Luca, I really liked a lot. Inside Out, I really liked a lot. Soul is one of my favorite Pixar movies ever, actually.
02:40:10
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I legitimately love it. I think it's amazing. so i do The thing is, that I've always been hit and miss with Pixar. I haven't watched all of them anyway. So for me, it's not been that big of a deal. Did you see Lightyear?
02:40:22
Speaker
Yep. It was okay. Yeah, it was okay. I enjoyed it. Turning Red, I loved. Turning Red's really good. it was good, yeah. But yeah, I didn't watch, I guess I only didn't watch Elemental and Inside Out 2.
02:40:35
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Let's give Elio, you know, it's respect. do Do respect here. I'm going to read this blurb from IMDb, okay? Elio, a space fanatic with an active imagination, finds himself on a cosmic misadventure where he must form new bonds with alien life forms, navigate a crisis of intergalactic proportions, and somehow discover who he is,
02:40:59
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Truly meant to be.
02:41:03
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Cool. Yeah, super cool. Good cast. We got Zoe s Saldana. We got Jamila Jamil from that show we both really like.
02:41:17
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You know the show that we both really like? Oh, A Good Place? Yeah, that one. We got America Ferrera from that other show that we both like. I'm looking at the directors. It's kind of interesting. is that The directors apparently are the art department our department person from Coco.
02:41:35
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Nice. It's Madeline Shereffian. We've got Domi Shi, who directed Turning Red. I'm fairly certain. Yeah. And Adrian Molina. I'm Adrian. Who was also additional crew on Coco.
02:41:50
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Coco. Coco. And he wrote The Good Dinosaur. And he was also disdainful on Turning Red. I watched Good Dinosaur. I did not watch Good Dinosaur. Is it Good Dinosaur? No, it's Bad Dinosaur, actually.
02:42:05
Speaker
Is it really? It was fine. i It's so forgettable. I feel like it's very... um Like Lion King, if I recall correctly. It almost follows very similar. But maybe not. I don't remember it.
02:42:17
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So it's Hamlet? Maybe. Is that what you're saying? It's Damlet. Dino. Yeah. Dino. okay Okay. Okay. Cool. All right, Simon. My last choice. Number three.
02:42:31
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is We're ending it here. is i'm ah I'm talking about ah won the movie. F1 the movie. It's coming out June 27th.
02:42:42
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I'm shocked you picked that, but okay. what Why? What did you think I was going to pick? Squid Game 3? Well, we just talked about that. I feel like it's... i don't Did you do it intentionally, though, or did you actually forget it? No, I did it intentionally, Simon. Respect.
02:42:55
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Respect. I did it intentionally, Simon. I appreciate it. all right yeah Are you excited for F1? Are you going to watch it? Maybe. The trailers actually kind of look pretty all right. They do look good. Well, it's the dude from the freaking Top Gun Maverick is directing. Yeah.
02:43:11
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Yeah. What's his name? Joseph Kaczynski. Yeah. I always want to say John Kaczynski, but it's Joseph Kaczynski. Kaczynski. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It does look good. There's like some quirky bits in it. Brad Pitt's a pretty cool guy, isn't he? He's just cool in things.
02:43:28
Speaker
He's just cool. He's like, he's just being cool in it. what Brad Pitt more like Rad Pitt. and I really like Brad Pitt in everything. what What is Brad Pitt? Typically, he is just not he's just not bad in anything. I love him in Inglourious Bastards. That's the role that like really sticks out to me as well.
02:43:44
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He's a goofball in like Burn After Reading. That one's good one a good one too. It's like a Coen Brothers movie. There's like... What's the movie I saw? Oh, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. He's so good in that. and That's what's so great. that He's one of the... Maybe the best character in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. So to see David Fincher...
02:44:01
Speaker
make a movie based upon Cliff Booth, his character, Brad Pitt's character. It's going to be pretty cool. I'm very excited because I love David Fincher's movies. We talked about this before, but anyway, yeah, I don't know. I think F1 could be really good.
02:44:13
Speaker
I don't know if we'll go get around to seeing it. I wonder, but, but anyway, the last pick I'm going to pick here, i won't pick squid game two then. Huh? No problem.
02:44:26
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I'm going pick iron heart. oh forgot about that airing on june 24th its premiere on disney plus don't forget simon don't forget the executive producer on it is ryan coogler the guy that did black panther and creed he's the executive producer don't forget he's his name's on this product we're gonna tell you all of the credits this guy's ever done it's really super important it's crazy but yeah dael of course is like a marvel if you don't know marvel tv show audience that yeah is uh it stars the character what's her name kiki no it's not kiki i think his name is kiki riri riri williams that's what it is riri williams from black panther 2 yeah and she builds a suit of armor just like iron and man and there's magic associated with it
02:45:20
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I don't know. You know what it is, though? It's going to live and die, in my opinion. If I watch this show, I've watched most of the Marvel shows, if not all of them. I'll say it's going to live and die based on the character development and based on the the relationships between the characters and how endearing the characters are overall. Yeah.
02:45:34
Speaker
Because that's something that I am questioning. I don't know whether that's good. Because I don't think the idea is that original. It doesn't look that original. That's the problem with it. It feels like another Iron Man story, but...
02:45:46
Speaker
in the eyes of a college kid, I guess. Yeah, that's fine. he Again, she wasn't the most. She was really not that interesting in Black Panther 2, which is largely by far my least favorite character. And that maybe not my least. Unnecessary, maybe. Yeah, she was kind of shoehorned in. I don't even remember what the fuck she does.
02:46:03
Speaker
I was kind of hoping Don Cheadle would be in this as a core character because Don Cheadle was supposed to get ah a movie or a TV show. and I think it was a TV show and then a movie and then nothing now. I love Don Cheadle and everything.
02:46:14
Speaker
So I feel like it would have been good. But I mean, then again, i love Samuel L. Jackson and that Secret Invasion show is again the worst show I've ever watched, I think. So I don't know. i guess I guess maybe that would have been bad. It depends on the showrunner, I guess, and how passionate they are for it or if they're just going to cash the cashche the checks.
02:46:32
Speaker
Yeah, i think it's interesting because like, I don't know, like it sucks because there's, I think there's like a huge amount of people that are just hating the show simply because of like racism.
02:46:45
Speaker
And I like don't want to be associated with those people. The problem is there's so many bad actors though, eh? I know. Like not bad actors in the show, that's a bad word me. know what you mean. I know what you mean. Yeah, like this is lot of like bad faith people.
02:46:56
Speaker
There's a lot of people who just, they don't have any good opinions about things and they just like, Yeah. This is woke because it's like there's a black woman. It's like, it's so much shit.
02:47:09
Speaker
The Witcher 3. The Witcher 4. Sorry. Witcher 3. The Witcher 4 tech demo. I talked to somebody today about it, okay? and At my job. And I talked about how excited I was for The Witcher 4.
02:47:20
Speaker
And they mentioned the freaking series face was changed because it was controversial that her face, she's she's like uglier now or something like that. They made her prettier in this tech demo from the trailer that they showed at the Video Game Awards in December.
02:47:33
Speaker
They made her prettier in the tech demo they just showed two weeks ago. She she looks the same. She looks identical. like, He was trying to convince me of that. I'm like, that's not true. But people online have written about this or incessantly to try and get clicks.
02:47:45
Speaker
And so therefore, it's like this thing. It's like hotness is like it's not allowed because it's woke. or so or like yeah there's like Yeah, that's what it is. It's crazy. It's crazy. We live in a weird-ass society, dude.
02:47:58
Speaker
It's messed up. Messed up. Messed up stuff. Just think for yourself. so Actually, again, it's... Yeah, like it sucks because you can't, it's almost like you can't give criticism anymore to certain things because it's like, I don't want to be lumped into those people. But this, it just simply does not look good. Like it just looks like, it looks like this was made and I'm confident it was made during like Marvel's low point where they didn't really know what to do. And I feel like this was kind of, yeah, pushed back. And I'm just,
02:48:25
Speaker
I'm not particularly interested in this. It doesn't look bad to me either, but I just don't think mediocre there's a lot of space for mediocrity in how much I watch and play. I'm playing so many games and watching so many TV shows and movies that I don't really have the time. I'm so sorry. Time is a valuable commodity, dude.
02:48:41
Speaker
Yeah, you have to blow me away. that's yeah exp Expedition 33 is an example of like a game that... like there's There are games that will fail, but that thankfully doesn't fail because it is brilliant. and I think the brilliant the really brilliant stuff also...
02:48:54
Speaker
cuts through the the crap in some capacity not saying the iron heart will be crap maybe it'll be great i want it to be good i would love to be proven wrong yeah yeah again the cast seems pretty all good like pretty decent because it has um the han solo from ha the han solo solo movie called solo a star wars story i really like that guy you don't like anton i like him his name isn't anton though visit it What is his name?
02:49:20
Speaker
ah Alden. Alden Ehrenreich, I think it is. Ehrenreich, yeah. He's got cool name, too. Where is that guy? What happened to him? He's an Ironheart, dude. Did Solo fail so badly, like financially, that he was never cast in anything like substantial again? like What happened? He was growing. He was in everything. he was like He was in a pretty solid role in Oppenheimer, to be fair.
02:49:42
Speaker
Yeah, he was. Which is cool. He's in Cocaine Bear as well. but that's a small movie. That's what I'm saying. He's Weapons. That's coming out. Oh, that that movie, as as horror movies go, I'm most interested in that movie. Yeah, it looks fucking good. Because the mystery of it, it's like the barbarian mystery, and that's the yeah same.
02:49:59
Speaker
It's Kreger. Zachary Kreger. made both weapons and barbarian. So I'm, I'm fucking stoked for this. That's cool that he's in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's one of the teachers. Oh no, he's a parent.
02:50:12
Speaker
think in the trailer, right? Yeah. He's cool though. I like him. I like the solo movie to be honest. Yeah. I know you didn't like it that much, it's fine. There's only one scene I don't like in that movie. And it's very obvious what scene is. Is it the, is it? Oh, Dan, Dan scene. There's a scene. in here um yeah It's so crazy. see I remember, a dude, I remember sitting in theaters being like, dude, what the fuck? It's so crazy. What do you mean? but ah We know who you are, man.
02:50:42
Speaker
like who we who left the theater, i was like, what was that? You're the most obvious guy. You stand out in a crowd. so sorry to say. And he's just like, just in case you don't know who I am. I was like, dude, what?
02:50:55
Speaker
That was so good. What the fuck the point of that? want to watch that movie again, actually. After I'm done Andor and Rogue One, I might go back to it. Just if I'm still playing Star Wars Outlaws, because it would just kind of be relevant to what I'm playing.
02:51:06
Speaker
Yeah. We'll see how it times out. It's so fucking dumb. It's pretty stupid. but I also don't particularly like how they name Han Solo in that movie, like how they like say like, oh, that's his name.
02:51:17
Speaker
I'm like, I don't know. was like, oh, this is kind of silly. It's kind of cool. It's silly. It's yeah, I'm OK with it. I didn't mind it. Silly, but it's kind it's not crazy. Impossible. Whatever. Who cares? Doesn't matter. All right. But I have one more pick is like a secondary kind of pick here. It's everything. Squid Game season three.
02:51:35
Speaker
No. Coming out June 27th. June 27th. Yeah. though Sir, that's in there as an honor honorable mention. But we can pick more than three, and so I picked one more here that you didn't say. i didn't think were going to say it, but anyway. It's Everything's Going to Be Great.
02:51:50
Speaker
It's Tetris director John S. Baird. It's I, Tonya, writer. Literally, his name is Steve Rogers. Stephen Rogers. And and it's ah the actors in it are Brian Cranston, Allison Janney.
02:52:06
Speaker
And it's like ah it's like a family and they're like they move away so Bryan Cranston's character can like run a theater company. But theater companies just notorious because don't make any money, it seems like.
02:52:18
Speaker
And so like there's like a rift in their family relationship because of this. The only thing I didn't like about it is the trailer is just a bit too hokey for me. It's got that like classic... like like the I don't know. It's almost like... What was that movie with Zachary Levi where the the boy is kind of like... He's got an illness or something and...
02:52:36
Speaker
Oh, where it's like, I'm going to cure my kid of autism. There's like an element of like the, the music the musical overtone, like we're going to make you feel things in this movie. And so you have this like music that's like incredibly generic. Like this isn't, this is a movie in which emotions will be felt and it's very wholesome. This is a super wholesome movie. It just announces that through the music.
02:52:58
Speaker
So that's the thing I didn't love about it. But the the people attached to it, it's kind of intrigued me. Anyway, that movie, Everything's Going to Be Great, is coming out on June 20th. And I thought I would throw that in there.
02:53:10
Speaker
It's a smaller film. That's a good little throwing. Throwing of the dice. Yeah, yeah. I wonder how much 28 years later it costs to make. I've been more curious about film budgets lately, like make three Meg Thregan, whatever you call it. like That movie is not very costly, and that's why they can make these horror movies and put them theaters so often. And that's why horror movies typically do so well.
02:53:34
Speaker
They're also often like bottle episodes where they don't have to spend so much. I'm curious, like some of these movies, like everything's going to be great. I imagine the budget's like beautiful like for the studio and for anyone involved.
02:53:45
Speaker
28 years later, the budget is apparently 75 million. Whoa, that's way higher than I thought it would be. Yeah. it's film on To be fair, to be fair, 70 million of that was just spent on the iPhones they used to film the movie.
02:53:58
Speaker
Yeah, right. You know what's crazy, though, about that? Like, realistically, though? Yeah, you know about that. Yeah. I'm doing a hand motion to show that. They have an array, yeah. Yeah. This is an audio art form.
02:54:11
Speaker
yeah But yeah, this is a, don't know if you can call it art, I suppose. Audio kind medium? Anyway. um But yeah, it's multiple iPhones on a rig that are filmed for one particular shot that's crazy. I'm super curious what that shot is. I think somebody was, i don't know if it was Danny Boyle.
02:54:28
Speaker
It might have been Danny Boyle. He said, you'll know this shot when you see it. I'm like, okay um I'll look for it there, Danny. I'm sure it's going to be like an infected going. na And then you're just going to see it from a bunch of different iPhone angles.
02:54:42
Speaker
It just keeps flipping. That's my assumption. and How much can the circle be? Because then eventually you're going to get. It's a semicircle. You'll see the other iPhone eventually, though. You're right, actually. Well, it's a deep, it's a deep cut.
02:54:57
Speaker
I guess you can cut it out with posts or something. Yeah. But OK, that's cool. I'm stoked for that movie. Oh, yeah, soon. You want to go see Ballerina tomorrow?
02:55:08
Speaker
Tomorrow? Like matinee? You want to do a matinee tomorrow? Again, if you want. My fiancé is having girlfriends over, and so I have do it like time if you want to that. Dude, I'm so down to go watch Ballerina tomorrow. Yeah. I'm not coming in exactly, but I think it's probably a good idea. Okay, shoot me a text. We can go watch Ballerina tomorrow. My fiancé, she's going to wedding dress shopping, so been...
02:55:29
Speaker
she's wedding dress shopping so she's been oh She's been ah I was going to say balls deep in the wedding. You're shopping. Yeah, that's not really the the right phrase. um Yeah, she's been looking at wedding dresses, so she's going to be going with her mom to a shop tomorrow around one.
02:55:44
Speaker
So we did. I'm all all I was going to be doing is just. hanging out on my couch looking at at my ceiling so if i could instead be that's it literally nothing else so very reminiscent of when we went to go see john wick 2 yeah right yeah we saw two together i'm like do you see john have you ever seen john wick you're like no what or what's that or something like how long those lines and you just watch the movie and said you want to go see it we just went at 9 p.m on a random tuesday or wednesday or something It's funny, every John Wick movie from John Wick 2, I watched the the other movie leading up to it. Because for John Wick 3, we watched John Wick 1 and 2 that same day. yeah
02:56:23
Speaker
And then John Wick 4, I watched John Wick 1, 2, and 3. Not the same day, but within the like a specific time frame. um And then for Ballerina, I'm going to watch all four John Wick movies tonight. i'm just goingnna I'm just going to watch it all night. i'm going to do an all-nighter.
02:56:38
Speaker
Actually, I only got to watch John Wick 3, but only halfway through 3. I told you this, I think, on this podcast, but it made me sick to my stomach to see John Wick shoot that many people in the head at a certain point. It's just too much.
02:56:48
Speaker
like It's good in small doses. It's amazing. especially I think John Wick 4 might be the best John Wick. I don't know. It's really good, man. Or John Wick 2, maybe? I think John 3 the weakest. 3, I think, is the weakest because it ends where it starts. And like I honestly don't remember what the fuck happened. was accomplished. But I think John Wick 2 had a much bigger budget, and it just felt like you could tell.
02:57:10
Speaker
like John Wick 1, when you go back and watch itre like, oh, wow, yeah. They were really on a shoestring budget in comparison. like they really They focused on the stunts, but they didn't have as as much in terms of set piece.
02:57:22
Speaker
And 2, they clearly... They're like the studio is like, Hey, but Hey, Hey guys, yeah we we have some money for you actually. Okay. All right. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. We're almost three hours.
02:57:32
Speaker
I'll see you tomorrow. I'll see you tomorrow for ballerina. I'm happy the Zencast you didn't have a conniption midway through the podcast. It's funny. Like, it's like we acknowledge that it was having issues and then it just stopped.
02:57:43
Speaker
Yeah, I know. That's like that. Oh man. i have another story again. Why do I keep coming up with stories? Spit it up. I love stories. Did I ever tell you the story about how my – this is probably incredibly boring. My family had a fridge.
02:57:55
Speaker
Like every family. Dude, my family had a fridge. What? No way, dude. Wait, are we brothers? yeah This coincidence is too deep. No, no, That's crazy, man. No, no, no. So we had a fridge. It was like a very cool fridge. It matched the kitchen. We had like black tile in our yeah kitchen.
02:58:11
Speaker
It was like – for a whole my whole life, we had black tile. It was cool. and Eventually, like a tile broke and couldn't replace it because it was so unique. Anyway. But the point is the fridge had like a black surface. You don't see this very often. Fridges now, you go get a Samsung fridge or whatever, and they all are stainless steel. They all look very similar.
02:58:27
Speaker
This had like a mirror black surface. It was very unique. It was like a French door fridge. Anyway, the fridge worked fine. It was great. Thanksgiving came around. We were hosting in my house.
02:58:38
Speaker
And suddenly the fridge, which was full of food, of course, because it's Thanksgiving, decided to break. So it broke on Thanksgiving Day in the morning before we even like started to cook.
02:58:49
Speaker
and the And the food, or it was like the day before slightly, and then we we were kind of screwed. And we're like, oh, shit, we're hosting Christmas. So Thanksgiving, we got through it. We figured it out. it wasn't too big of a deal. We're hosting Christmas. We got to replace the fridge, we thought, the next few days.
02:59:02
Speaker
But of course, the fridge began to work as soon as we were talking about it in the kitchen. We just talked about it then the fridge began to work. Worked perfectly for literally two months. And we're like, I guess we don't need to replace the fridge.
02:59:15
Speaker
It's going to be fine for Christmas. It's working fine. Nope. On Christmas Day, it literally broke again. It shut off and would not turn on. And it was really bad.
02:59:25
Speaker
It was much worse because we had more food for Christmas than we had for Thanksgiving. Because we had more people coming over. And so it was a really bad situation. And so we did replace the fridge after that.
02:59:36
Speaker
But yeah, we talked about it. We've got stuff outside. It fixed itself. Like how does a fridge fix itself? It just decided. You talk about it. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, not a good story. but On the plus side, on Christmas, usually it's a little snowy. It's a little chilly out here in Canada.
02:59:51
Speaker
So you can at least put the food outside. That is what we did, I believe. i and we we had asked to stuff We are brothers, dude. I was there. I remember. We both had a fridge. I think we had a small fridge in the basement as well that we use as a backup. Yeah.
03:00:05
Speaker
But we had a lot of stuff in there, like drinks, like for the guests. Because it was, again, it was a pretty big event. But it like it it wasn't enough. So we had to put stuff outside. It was like were really screwed. We were putting stuff in the garage and stuff. Because we want an animal to come, like a bird to take off with the freaking turkey. Yeah.
03:00:23
Speaker
So anyway. Yeah, that was the- pigeon picks up the whole turkey. A pigeon. Isn't that kind of cannibalism in some way? little bit. Maybe that, maybe it wasn't turkey. stuff It's like, it's kind of like the equivalent of if we started eating like chimpanzee, you know?
03:00:38
Speaker
Technically you could do it, but it feels wrong. Should you, but should you though? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, um, that's it for this episode of split focus of women TV podcast. Anything you want to say during before we go?
03:00:51
Speaker
You know what? No. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, Thank you for listening to episode 112 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast.
03:01:02
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My name is Simon Eadie, and it has been a pleasure to host you alongside my enigmatic co-host, Adrian Pinter. Join us in two weeks on July 1st, July 1st, Canada Day, for episode 113.
03:01:18
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Good evening to you, and good luck. Take care. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Take care.