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The NCAA Report for December
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Russ Robinson and I talk about the change in defensive coordinators at Illinois.
We put list our picks for the NCAA Bowl Championship
A look at Missouri Tigers in the Gasparilla Bowl and Illinois in the Reliquest Bowl
and a look at the annual Bragging rights game between Mizzou and Illinois
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Transcript
Introduction and Ryan Walters' Transition
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This is Gateway City Sports. From Talking Sports on the Bleachers, it's the NCAA Report.
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And my co-host Russ Robinson sit back and enjoy it folks
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Speaker
Welcome, folks. Glad you all stopped by. The bleachers here. We're going to have a sit down with my good friend Russ Robinson from Gateway City Sports. So we're going to talk. I think I've decided to call it the NCAA report. What do you think? That's a good title.
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that sounds pretty accurate that sounds like about what we what we've been doing okay so for the december version of the ncwa report so leading off i think what i'm going to talk on the uh new coaching hire at illinois or well actually the coaching vacancy and now new hire ryan walters took the uh perdue job i guess he was considered for colorado
00:01:32
Speaker
and a couple and I guess a couple other jobs that have come up and uh but this is the first one he said yes to or that's uh actually maybe extended an offer to him I was kind of shocked to see them go I mean I knew we were going to lose Walters at some point that was just a given after what he did this year with the Illinois defense I mean we went from we went from 49th in the nation last year to first in in a number of categories and um
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So, you know, it was just a matter of time before he ended up someplace else.
Purdue's Decision and Illinois' Defensive Changes
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I was surprised that he went to Purdue for two reasons. One, that, and I guess they can't block it anymore, but, you know, used to, coaches were kind of forbidden to go to another, to a competing school in your own league. You know, you had to go somewhere else first and then come back. So that was the first one. The second one was that Purdue was actually looking this way at Illinois. I mean, they had a couple people over there, I guess, that were supposedly
00:02:26
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next in line if you will and and they decided to go completely jump and ship and Take Walters. So what's what's your take on that? I mean, I know we stole him from you guys So I guess I guess it's payback somebody still stole him from us That's what I've been heard about when he left I thought some people thought that Coach Drake did not do enough to try to keep him out
00:02:58
Speaker
When he hired Steve Wilk from the NFL, and the defense was just awful. And under Walters, we had done pretty well. And we saw what he did in Illinois. And I heard he's a good recruiter. So he was an up and comer. He wasn't going to stay in Illinois as the defensive coordinator for the rest of his life.
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He went somewhere, so Purdue, the only thing I'm surprised about Don is that Purdue selected him because they used to go for the offensive guy, the offensive background. So I was a little surprised about that. Well, yeah, I mean, I agree. Normally, like you said, you see them go after the offensive coordinator, the quarterback's coach or
00:03:37
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somebody like that they can move up or maybe at worst they go like for an assistant head coach type. But yeah, that's the first time I've ever seen them go after a defensive coordinator. You know, like I said, I knew we were going to lose him. You know, it was just going to be a matter of when. And I was really intrigued by something that Brett Beelam has said in his press conference. I'm paraphrasing it because I don't have it in front of me, but that they knew that it was pretty much going to happen and they had been preparing for it.
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Okay was his was the take I got from it now the word around here was that you know it was going to be Kevin Kane was going to take over as the defensive coordinator because he's been a defensive coordinator before much of the same as a Andy boo the Inside linebacker coach Kane was the outside linebacker coach at Illinois
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and he was also the associate coach. So everybody had that figured that, okay, he's associate coach, he was the defensive coordinator and you know, but Bilema kind of surprised everybody and the safeties coach, Aaron Henry is now going to be the new defensive coordinator at Illinois.
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Aaron he's never been a coordinator anywhere always been a position coach and But he he played under Beelama and he's coached a couple different places So I think that I think the familiar hereti with what Aaron can do and what he brings to the program I think that's what that sealed the deal because when Beelam was first hired he made the statement when they were talking about his hiring is coaching hires that he didn't want coordinators
00:05:09
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that he had worked with because he wanted somebody that had a different opinion. And he said, if I pick somebody that I work with, that means, you know, they're accustomed to what I do. He says, I want to be challenged. And, you know, that's why he went after, uh, Tommy Peterson. And then, um, and, and when he hired, uh, Ryan, but I think he's, he's kind of switched that back as well. He's worked with Barry Lenny Jr. before, you know, now he's got, he brought, he brings in or promotes, uh,
00:05:35
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Uh, Aaron Henry. So I think he's going to go back to the, okay, I'm better off being familiar with who I'm dealing with and having somebody doesn't know my thought and scheme. So we'll see how that works out. And I don't know if it's related. I really don't, but right after, actually a couple of days after Walters took the job at Purdue and while Illinois was still in the selection phase, if you will, for D a defensive coordinator.
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Illinois Players Opting Out and Game Previews
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defensive backs have now opted out of the bowl game. And we'll get to the bowl game here in a little while. So I thought that kind of interesting myself. Yeah, well I'm sure some of your players will go with him. Probably the deeper they're used to playing deep ahead. I mean it's likely you'll lose some that'll go with him.
00:06:24
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I mean, that's just the way it is now, you know, without the transfer of the border, the way it is, it's always for these guys to move around.
00:06:32
Speaker
I wouldn't be surprised. He takes a few players with him. Oh, yeah, for sure. A couple players are going to go. I mean, one of our backup quarterbacks, I guess, is already hit the transfer portal looking at the Purdue team. But the two guys that are not going to play in the bowl game, they are turning pro.
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They're putting their name into the into the NFL draft So that you know like I said, it was kind of curious now. Here's the other curious thing about it though They're not gonna play an Illinois bowl game But they are still committed and have not said whether they are or not But they are still committed to play in the senior bowl. Okay Yeah So yeah, I guess I said different rules with the senior bowl, but yeah
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Yeah, so. Probably those guys, you know, it could have been part of the reason they went pro. They didn't want to be used to a new coordinator. Well, and that may be true too. I mean, uh.
00:07:31
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think I think I think they are both juniors. I mean, I'm not sure I think they are both juniors but Devin Witherspoon and Sydney Brown are Opting out of playing in the bowl games and are putting their name into the NFL Draft Which I kind of thought they would anyway considering the fact that Witherspoon made just about every list imaginable I mean he was first team all-big-10 and
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by the conference coaches, by the conference media, by the AP, sporting news, I think, had him first team all Big Ten, and he was on just about every All-American. Matter of fact, he ended up being a consensus All-American this year for Illinois. So I kind of figured he was gone. He was gonna go, no matter how you looked at it.
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Well, okay. Let's, uh, let's move on to the bowl championship. So we've got Georgia versus Ohio state and Michigan versus TCU, right? Right. Yeah. Let's start with the Georgia, Ohio state. You're the SEC guys. So tell me, tell me the, tell me the virtues of Georgia. Well, I think Kirby's part has created an elite program since you've been there. And he's kind of been building it up. You know, I think they've got the offense, the defense, they're a well-balanced team and they wanted last
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They won it last year? They did win it all last year? Yes. Oh, it would be something they could pull it off again. I don't know. You know, Ohio State's, you know, I don't know if I had to pick Georgia, only because I've watched the play more than I have Ohio State. But, you know, that doesn't mean I'm slammed up. I think there's no way Ohio State can win that game. So I know Missouri, I watched the Missouri-Georgia game. Missouri almost won the game. Lost and played.
00:09:22
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And they had a lead late. For one game, they had Georgia figured out. And then after that, Georgia went out of a tear. So I just think that Georgia's going to be a tough customer. They were there last year. But I don't think that's a lot of them. They've been here before, too. So I don't know. I don't know. But if I had to bet, if I was a betting guy, I would bet on Georgia.
00:09:51
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You know, that's just all I just, for what I've observed. Yeah. Well, I kind of agree with you. I've seen a couple of Georgia games and they do appear to have pretty balanced attack and they're good on both sides of the football for the most part. But the one thing that strikes me is I've been looking back over them in Ohio State.
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You know, you look at their schedules. I looked at Ohio State's schedule and I'm like, okay, who did you play? They beat Notre Dame right out of the gate. Of course, Notre Dame, I think, was ranked way too high at the start of the season. And I don't think they were a number five team in any way, shape, or form. But, you know, then they played like Toledo and the typical Cupcake customers. And, you know, the Big Ten East, I mean,
00:10:36
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Yeah, Indiana came out of the gate fairly, fairly hard. Maryland was actually a good football team, but neither one of them, um, I don't think either one, or if they had a winning record, it was only like a five and four when they played Ohio State or something like that. And Maryland actually gave them a good game for three quarters, you know, and then they had, uh, then of course then they rolled over Penn State and they rolled over this by anybody else. And then they meet, they meet up with Michigan and Michigan obliterate them.
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Ohio State. Yeah, I mean, I was watching that game. It's like, okay, this is going to be, it started out, this is that I thought it was going to be a good game. And then all of a sudden it just like, it just like Michigan hit another gear and Ohio State said, okay, we're done. And it would just, it looked that much of a difference from, because, you know, first quarter and almost into this, well, just about up to halftime.
00:11:31
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Like I said, they were, they were beating each other up. And then all of a sudden, you know, Michigan state comes out or Michigan comes out after the half and just says, okay, our ballgame now, see you later. And that was without Blake Corum. They didn't even have their top running back in the, and they wiped out Ohio state.
Georgia vs. Ohio State and Championship Contenders
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Yeah. Yeah. I was pulling together Georgia schedule and I forgot they had overran Oregon in the opening. Yeah. Yeah. There's 49 to three and Oregon at that time was, I don't know why the Oregon's rated right now, but they,
00:11:59
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I think they finished in the top 25. I think I actually I think finished around 10 or 11 maybe yeah 10 or 11 I think somewhere in there if I remember if I remember right I could be wrong I mean they they ran over LSU and the SEC championship game that's a good team and you know they struggled against Kentucky and Tennessee played them with good game but you know it just
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The only game they were scared in was in kind of, ironically, was the Missouri game. And I just think Missouri called them at the right time. They weren't expecting anything from Missouri. They got a lot. And so they, you know, they came back and rallied and won that game.
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But you know they just they just dominate other than that. They pretty much dominate about everyone they play Yeah, and it well and like I said, you know if you let me look at how they come out they get by Notre Dame 21 to 10 and then they went on this ungodly terror they beat Arkansas State by 33 they beat Toledo by 50 they beat Wisconsin by 30 they beat Rutgers by 39 and
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Michigan State by almost 30. They beat Iowa by 40. Then they ran into Penn State. They scored a lot of points but so did Penn State. Penn State put up 31 points on them. Of course they were number 13 at the time. Then the next week Northwestern held Ohio State to 21 points.
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Then they come back and they win by 40 over Indiana. And then they said like Maryland gave them a good game right before the, before the Michigan game. And then Michigan just, like I said, they, they mopped up the floor with them or Michigan. They put up 17 points in the first half and then 28 points in the second half. They held Ohio state to three points in the second half. At the, at the halftime, it was 20 to 17 Ohio state. Yeah.
00:13:53
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Well, you know, that really surprised me. I didn't think they would. I thought Michigan could win, but I just think they would. Oh yeah, I was expecting a lot tighter game than that. That's for sure. So you're going Georgia, huh? You know, as much as as much as as I'm a big 10 guy, I gotta agree with you on this one. And you know, again, I don't think Georgia is really all that in a bag of chips, because like I said, I don't think that their schedule really is any different than what Ohio State played. I mean,
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Yeah, I mean, they had a couple of tough games in there, Tennessee, obviously, and LSU, but they handled both of them well. They handled LSU pretty well. But yeah, I'm going to agree with you. I'm going to go with Georgia, because I just don't think Ohio State is as advertised. I mean, I would have almost taken a two-loss Tennessee over Ohio State for that final spot.
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play a big name schedule, you know, in terms of a big name. I mean, they played five, six top 25 teams and went five and one. The only other team that has five top 25 wins in an FBS football is Tennessee. Yeah. You know, they were kind of a team that I certainly wouldn't expect anything out of. Oh, no. And it's fair to tell they play in the big 12, the big 12 in what it used to be, you know, but they did win the games and had to win.
00:15:09
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That's just me.
00:15:29
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Uh, interesting enough, they lost to Kansas state, but they can state in a decent team this year. So here's a decent team, but you know, that beat decent teams Baylor was, was decent. Uh, they beat, I don't know how good Texas is. They probably had a bad year. Uh, you know, they beat Kansas state the first time. Yeah. Oklahoma was ranked. Let's see when they beat Oklahoma, Oklahoma was 18th. Then they beat Kansas. They were 19th and Oklahoma state who was ranked eighth.
00:15:56
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than Kent State or K State who is ranked 17th, they beat all four of those guys in a row. Now the Oklahoma State game, they did have to go to two overtimes.
00:16:17
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apparently they've been in a good team, but I sure didn't watch one of their games done. So I really can't say much. Well, I mean, quite frankly, they should have had one loss. And I don't mean to sound like a homer. They should have lost to Illinois. Illinois had them down.
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Michigan won that game against Illinois with like 30 seconds to go in the game or it was less than that. I mean it was just I again I'm not trying to I'm not trying to be the homer and say that we got robbed but you know we kind of got robbed.
00:16:48
Speaker
Of course, this is the game also where they lost Blake Coram. He got hurt in the first half of that, and they played the entire second half without Coram at running back. And you could tell, at least in that game, there was a big difference, that Edwards doesn't quite up to being the lead back, if you will. But my God, in that Ohio State game, he sure put the questions to rest on after that game, that was for sure.
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But yeah, I mean, realistically, I think Michigan should have had at least one loss. You know, it is what it is. You give them credit. I mean, they fought like hell. But yeah, Michigan, I think, above the two teams, they've got to be, as you say, they've got to be the clear favorite. They've been rolling over people, and that's the one thing, the TCU hasn't been rolling over really anybody.
00:17:37
Speaker
Uh, they've had a couple of blowout games, but they haven't rolled over anybody. And so I'm going to go with you that. So we're going to go Michigan and Georgia, Ben is the main championship game. All right. Who you liking that one? Well, you know, I, I guess I'll go with Georgia, though. I wouldn't, you know, at this, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan could pull the game out and run the game. But I've come to Georgia once again, Don, only because I've watched Georgia play a few more times than Michigan.
00:18:07
Speaker
You know, I think when you get, when you get to that level, uh, with these two teams coming in undefeated, anything can happen. It could be a close game. It could be a blowout or, you know, either one of these teams can win. So, you know, I mean, they're both well coached. I think it's going to be a high scoring affair or low scoring affair. I don't think it'd be a high scoring affair unless it turns into some sort of blowout. I don't think it will be. I don't think it'll be a high score affair. So, you know, uh, Michigan has probably played no one like Georgia.
00:18:36
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on their schedule and Georgia, you know, they, I don't know if you want to call, uh, you know, Alabama or, uh, I don't know. They play Alabama. They didn't play Alabama. They played Tennessee. They played, uh, LSU. I'd say Tennessee and LSU were the two best teams to play. Yeah. So, uh, you know, and they probably, so probably no, they haven't played anybody like Michigan either. So this will be a, it ought to be a good game. I expect a good game. I hope it's a good game.
00:19:05
Speaker
Yeah. You know, Michigan is definitely going to be probably the toughest test they've had all year. Definitely Georgia will probably be the toughest test Michigan has had all year without a doubt, without a doubt. Because like I said, even though Ohio State was undefeated when they played each other, you could tell Ohio State was just not in the same class as Michigan. So I think it'll be a good game. I'm going to go different with you. I'm going to be I'm going to be contrary this time. And I'm going to go I'm going to go Michigan. I'm going to take Michigan in the championship game. I don't think that's
00:19:39
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Yeah, either way, I think we're going to be in good shape on that, as far as that goes.
Tributes and Tennessee vs. Clemson
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Oh, one other thing we should mention before we get too far into this. Condolences, obviously, from talking sports on the bleachers to Mississippi State Coach. Mike Leach. Mike Leach and his family for his sudden passing. You talk about a shock and a half. And I say this, we'll get to that game in a little bit. I'm going to just touch on it.
00:20:06
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I think those kids are paying him such an honor to go ahead and play that bowl game after losing their coach. I think that just speaks volumes about what kind of a coach and how well-loved he was at Mississippi State. Yeah, he was a unique character for college football. I mean, Mike Leach was one of those guys who could talk on other subjects. He was well-read. And you know, in his post-game or pre-game press conferences,
00:20:38
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So he might just start talking to the media about power or something like that. I think the media really enjoyed him. I think that's why he got on well with the media. He talked honestly with him and he was easy to approach and things like that.
00:20:58
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what makes it difficult, you know, for them. Right, yeah, no doubt. I'm gonna kind of touch on the other, as they call the the New Year's six, so the other four, because the two are two of those games that, of course, the lead into the championship game, and then the other four are being the rose this year, I should say, being the rose, cotton, sugar and orange.
00:21:18
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We'll just kind of take him in order here. December 30th is the Orange Bowl in Miami Gardens, Florida, Tennessee versus Clemson. How do you see that one going? Well, that'll be a good game. I don't think Clemson, Clemson's not as dominant as it were two, three years ago when they were in the championship game a couple of times. They're still very good, but, you know, Tennessee, you know, the end of the year was a letdown for them. Okay. They had something to prove. You know, they were, looked like they were rolling. You know, they got beat.
00:21:48
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by, oh, South Carolina. Of course, Alabama, I think they got beat by, Georgia beat. You know, losing to South Carolina, you know, that was kind of a downer. They thought they might, you know, they thought they might have a shot there at the, getting into the final, being one of the final four teams. There was a talk there for a while. There might be two SEC teams in it, and they were thinking either Alabama or Tennessee. And, you know, when Tennessee got beat by South Carolina, that ain't even bad.
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So, uh, I think they'll have something to prove. You know, I can't speak too much about Clemson because I never watched him play this year, Don, but, uh, as Tennessee plays several games. Yeah. What's, what's kind of interesting about Clemson is after South Carolina beat Tennessee, they beat Clemson. Yeah. South Carolina, they lost to Missouri, but they beat, they beat Tennessee and Clemson. It's kind of a weird season. No doubt. Other than Georgia.
00:22:48
Speaker
It was kind of a weird season for most of the teams. Tennessee lost their starting quarterback. So I don't know how that's going to work out for them. We'll just have to see.
00:23:01
Speaker
I'm going to kind of go with you on this one. I kind of think Clemson, like you said, I think they're not as good as they used to be, but I think they may feel they've got something to prove as well. But I think I was on the Tennessee bandwagon earlier this year, so I'll join you in that pick and we'll both go with Tennessee for that one. Okay. Next is Alabama and Kansas in the Sugar Bowl, December 31st, New Orleans.
00:23:31
Speaker
We had Kansas State and Alabama. Or Kansas State. Excuse me. I said Kansas. Kansas State. I'm sorry. I'm going with Nick Saban. I know they're losing two games. I don't know how many coaches or how many fan bases or how many schools cause. When you lose two games, that's a disaster.
00:23:49
Speaker
disappointment you know you end up in the sugar bowl but I know they're greatly disappointed that they fell down you know they had lost two games so I'm gonna say that Sabino had his team break I just think he will and Kansas State is good but I'm just not sure they're on the level with
00:24:09
Speaker
with Alabama. I'll have to echo that I mean as much as and this is just me because it's Nick Saban and because it's Alabama. I really wish Kansas State would win but I can't see a scenario other than maybe the offensive line for Alabama gets deathly ill before the game and you have to go with all substitutes. I just I just I don't I don't see this working out well for Kansas State.
00:24:37
Speaker
You know, the thing is, I don't know all these games. We don't know how the transfer reporter has affected. I mean, you probably know how it's affected Illinois. I've got all the Missouri issues, but, you know, the transfer porters hit every team. Most teams have been, even the good programs have lost players.
00:24:54
Speaker
I haven't heard anything about any big names. If I wanted to change anything about the transfer portal, I think I would change it to the degree that you must wait until all competition is done for your team.
00:25:10
Speaker
You know, this idea of, okay, the regular season's over, I want to transfer out. You know, really? I mean, you know, it's kind of like what I'm talking about with the two Illinois players that are, and we've got a couple that are transferring out as well.
00:25:26
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It's
Transfer Portal Debate and Game Previews
00:25:27
Speaker
like, okay, really, you can't stick around one more ball game. You can't play that one last final ball game. You're jumping ship now. And like I said, with the two guys that are the two defensive backs for Illinois, yeah, they're going to the pros. I can somewhat understand them not wanting to get injured. But as I've seen a lot of people on Facebook and on Twitter,
00:25:51
Speaker
talk about over the last week, you know, you play all year, you play 12, 13 ball games to get that chance to go to a bowl game, to get that chance to go to a championship and you go walk away from it. And I just don't understand the logic in that. I really, I wish somebody could explain it to me because I don't understand the logic in that at all. I really don't. Well, as far as the transfer report, the genie's out of the bottle on that thing. Yeah. I'm not sure what they're going to do to
00:26:21
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If they can do anything, I don't know. I think the one thing they could do would be to just say, okay, no matter what season you're in or what sports you're in, you cannot transfer until your team is completely through competing for that season. Yeah.
00:26:40
Speaker
Now, for some of those people, it's going to be after the regular season's over. I mean, you got guys, you know, a guy from Northwestern, I mean, they only won three ballgames, I think, all year. So yeah, he's going to leave right after the last game of the season. That's fine, because this season's over. But for kids from Georgia, from TCU, from Illinois, from Missouri, and I granted, Missouri and Illinois are not really playing in, you know, what some people would call maybe
00:27:05
Speaker
high profile. Of course Illinois is playing December 2nd, but it's still not necessarily what I would consider a high profile. But you get some of these other minor bowl games that maybe I can see it, but if you're going to play in one of the big name games, the Rose, the Cotton, the Sugar, the Orange, the Citrus, the Fiesta, games like that, why would you not want to take that opportunity? Because you're going to be on national television.
00:27:27
Speaker
You're going to be in front. I mean, scouts are going to come to watch you play. Why would you not play in one of the bigger spotlights that you're going to have? I mean, yeah, OK, I get it. You get injured. But you know, the thing is, they go to these combines, they go to they go to the senior bowl. They can don't even have to get hit. They can make the wrong cut and their seat and their and their careers over. Yeah, right.
00:27:49
Speaker
You know, so I, so this whole engine, you know, I don't want to get injured thing. I mean, yes, I can see it as an argument. I just don't think it's a valid argument. So I don't know. I mean, you know, but you, but you're a hundred percent, right? We don't know all these trends. So we're kind of going for those people that don't realize we don't do this full time.
00:28:06
Speaker
Okay, you've probably realized that by now. But we don't do this full time. We don't have a team of assistants and interns going around finding us all these games and getting us all this news. We kind of have to catch it as a catch can. So pardon us if we don't know who's left what team. So getting back to the other two games here. The Cotton Bowl, number 10 USC, number 16 Tulane. I like USC only because
00:28:36
Speaker
I just don't know a lot about two lanes done, but you see Lincoln rallies gone over there from Oklahoma this year. He's really doing that program. Oh yeah, he's done quickly to what it was. I know he lost to Utah in the pack 12 championship game, right? They'll be coming over in a couple of years to join you guys. Yeah, thank 24. I think is what the slated is to be UCLA and USC's first season. I don't know how, but if I was going to take a bet, I'd been on Lincoln rally.
00:29:06
Speaker
I'm USC winning that game. I just think he said he said he's why he won big at Oklahoma and he's he's already he's already had success at USC. I just think he spoke about this and yeah, well, I can I can see that and and I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you on that. You know, I think
00:29:26
Speaker
You know, like you said, Riley's done a really good job over there. Tulane, I think, I think they've kind of come out of nowhere this year, really. So I'm not sure exactly how good they are. What conference are they in? American Athletic Conference. American Athletic Conference. I mean, they were 11 and two. You know, you give them credit for that. I mean, let's see who they played. They beat K-State. Houston, Memphis. They lost to University of Central Florida.
00:29:54
Speaker
They beat SMU, they beat Cincinnati, and then they turned around and beat University of Central Florida, I guess, for their championship game. Yeah, they lost to Southern Miss. Oh, I missed that one, yeah. Sorry, I missed that one, yeah. Like you said, they came back and beat Central Florida after they lost to them.
00:30:12
Speaker
But you know, I just don't know I'm just kidding. Yeah Yeah, I mean because yeah, I don't know what the what the pack 12, you know was like either I mean, it's you know, we had USC UCLA was there for what Utah has been ranked pretty much in the top 25 all year But I mean
00:30:30
Speaker
I'm looking at some of the scores for USC scores here in Oregon State. They played them to within three points. Then they turned around and they shellacked Arizona State by almost 20. Washington State by almost 20. They actually lost to Utah twice this year. They lost to them in the regular season and then in the championship game.
00:30:50
Speaker
I don't know, maybe we shouldn't underestimate Utah. I think they're coming up next. We got to think about Utah now. Let's see, they did beat UCLA, and they beat number 15 Notre Dame late in the season. So they've got some decent wins, but I'll go with them just because of the improvement they've made over the last couple of years. And it's not quite a homer pick for me, because they're not big 10 yet. So I'm safe on that one.
00:31:21
Speaker
All right, which does lead us to the final of the big four or whatever, which is the Rose and Utah versus Penn State. We just talked a little bit about Utah. Penn State, I think Penn State is, they've got a chip on their shoulder right now because I think after getting beat by Michigan and Ohio State,
00:31:44
Speaker
in convincing fashion, I think they feel they've got something to prove because a lot of people are saying, well, the only reason they're in the Rose Bowl is because Michigan or Ohio State are in the championship game. And, you know, from what I heard though, and I don't know if this is true or not, but rumor has it that Ohio State said before the, before the pairings and everything were released that they informed the Rose Bowl not to extend them an invitation.
00:32:11
Speaker
I don't know if that's true or not. That's just a rumor I heard. So I think Penn State may be feeling like, okay, look, they're out to prove they're not the third best team in the Big Ten. They're out to prove that they deserve to be in that Rose Bowl game. I think that's what's gonna be it for me. Utah, I don't know how long they've been part of the Pac-10 or Pac-12. I don't know when they joined that. They've been there for some time. Okay.
00:32:39
Speaker
with Utah in this game because they'd be USC twice. I've always been impressed with James Franklin. I mean, I know he came, he wanted Vanderbilt, but no one else really has. They've got a good program there. I mean, he's done it.
00:32:57
Speaker
I'll just take Utah for no other reason than someone needs to, probably. OK, so going over all our picks here, you like Georgia and Michigan and then Georgia in the championship series. And I'm liking Georgia, Michigan and Michigan in the championship series. OK. We both we both agree on Tennessee and Alabama and USC, I think. Right. And then you're taking Utah and I'm taking Penn State.
00:33:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You know, Utah beat USC twice, so there's something to be said for that. Okay. Well, hey, you made me right. I'll just go with that. I couldn't name you one player on the Utah team. Well, yeah, I'm the same here. I really don't think I can name you a player on the Penn State team to tell you the truth, you know, but want to get a quick little commercial in here. Hello, this is Don Glenn from Gateway City Sports. We all know how important it is to stay protected. Sometimes life throws you a curve.
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00:34:59
Speaker
You didn't want to talk about your favorite team. Well, you know, you're probably saying, I don't know, Illinois, but in the ball game, yes. Wait for us. I don't know what to expect, Don. Well, once again, I don't know much about Wake Forest, but I know they have a really good coach. You've been there for a little while and it's done a good job, but, uh, Mizzou, like we were talking about his loss and players to the transfer portal. So certainly, uh, uh,
00:35:29
Speaker
And they're the best live receiver left. Went into the portal. Dominick Lewis. They had a couple guys declare early for the NFL drive. So it's going to hurt their depth, but I don't know. I'm sure Wake Forest is having the same issues. The thing that happened this week, Don, is that we thought that Drake, who's been his own offensive coordinator,
00:35:54
Speaker
had turned the offensive call plane over to a guy named Bush Ambren. He was an experienced, he was the quarterback coach and he came over with Drinkowitz and we, I thought the way the team had responded to Hammond's play calling that maybe that he was in line to be the offensive coordinator, but he announced he took a job as offensive coordinator at Boise State. So he won't be around for the bowl game.
00:36:25
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know how that's going to affect them or not. And drink, which coach drink and said, he's going to take over for the bowl game to play calling in court, coaching quarterback. So we'll see how this works out. I'm just not sure what to expect. Um, you know, they haven't won a bowl game since 2014 when they went to the citrus bowl and when Gary Pinker was still coach and they beat Minnesota, it's the last bowl game. They'd won it in their fuses. That's the last one they won.
00:36:55
Speaker
So, it's time. So, I'm not sure I'm I'm all that confident about this game. Uh you know, you never know how teams are going to respond to a bowl game. You know, right? Let's join the big bowls. I mean, they're going to Tampa, Florida. That's a nice place to go. Uh and it's uh it's Friday night. Uh you know, it's it's before Christmas. That's one of the things that's nice about the team. We'll get all for Christmas but
00:37:25
Speaker
lower in bowls, uh, you never know how teams can respond to it. Right. Right. I picked Missouri. I'm just, I'm just, I'm having a hard time coming, making up my mind. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I've just from listening to you and reading some of your stuff that you're right. I mean, I've kind of have an idea of what's going on at Missouri. I had no idea what's going on in Wake Forest. Um, you know, and so I think I'll probably go with you on, on an Allen.
00:37:53
Speaker
A couple of questions I do have for you though, on the Missouri side of things, you say drink once isn't going to have somebody else take over at the coordinator job. Is that going to carry you through to next year as well? Or do you think he's going to get a coordinator for that spot? Well, he hadn't made up his spot. He was given an extension in the middle of the year when they gave him an extension and more money per staff. And that was the thought that he would hire an offensive coordinator. And we thought that Bush Hammond was getting a trial for the job.
00:38:23
Speaker
And then like I said, if Hammond's been with him since he got to Mizzou and he's been the quarterback coach since he got to Mizzou, you know, I, I, I expect him to hire at least a quarterback coach. I wouldn't be surprised if he hired an offensive coordinator. And I'm just wondering, um, if Hamlin knew that he wasn't going to get the coordinator's job and he had a chance to go to, he was an alumni of Boise State. That's like home for him. Uh, you know, leaving a power five job, he took a pay
00:38:57
Speaker
So I, I, I do, I, I feel like that, uh, drink has something in mind. Other than Bush Hammond, maybe someone else in my baby's gotta find someone. So that's my theory. I think with, with the way Missouri, I mean, you look at some of the games, they, like you said, we've, we already talked about their game against Georgia. Um, you know, they've given actually a fairly good accounting for themselves. Yeah. And like I said, I really can't, I don't know how much you can read into what wake forest is as, as done.
00:39:27
Speaker
Because, like you said, none of us really know what... Well, they were what? I'm looking at it now. They were one, two, three, four. They were sixth in the ACC Atlantic. Yeah. Three and five conference record. I guess what put them over the top was some non-conference games.
00:39:52
Speaker
Quick look at who they played here They played some common opponents. They've played Vandy of course who didn't beat Vandy, but that's another story They lost to Clemson by six points in double overtime 51 to 45 so they pushed Clemson and Clemson was number five at that time. They beat Florida State. They beat Syracuse They did lose to NC State and pretty handily and they lost to Louisville big time
00:40:22
Speaker
Louisville Louisville waxed him by 27 points So yeah, you don't know what you're gonna you don't know what you're facing the neck in that crew I'll tell you I think I'm gonna I'm gonna go I think I'm gonna go with with Missouri on this one Just for the simple fact of I don't know that much about Wake Forest You know Dave Clarkson is their coach. He's a veteran coach. He's been in several places and he's one where he He's been at They won 11 games last year
00:40:52
Speaker
Yeah. I don't think Missouri certainly is not over matched in this game. We'll be over matched. Well, it looks like they've got the 10th ranked passing offense and the 116th ranked passing defense.
00:41:21
Speaker
like that. So, you know, we'll see. Yeah. How's this Missouri secondary? Do you think Missouri can handle a top offense like that? Passing wise? Yeah, they've done well with defense. And I think they can. It just depends on how they motivate. Yeah. I don't know what the team's going to show, what's going to show up here. You know, it's like almost when they beat Arkansas, that was almost like their bowl game to me, it seemed like. So I don't know.
00:41:50
Speaker
You know, we'll see how the transfer reporter hit him. I think there was a couple of defensive players that left out, I think, a couple of them out going to the NFL. So we'll just have to see. One thing good about this is, and I think that's the way the coaches look at it, these lower end bowls, sort of like drink and, you know, hey, play them. You get more practice time and you get to try some people out, you know.
00:42:33
Speaker
Yeah, that's kind of interesting little, we're getting all sorts of interesting little tidbits around here, aren't we? Anyway,
00:42:38
Speaker
for
Illinois vs. Mississippi State and Season Goals
00:42:39
Speaker
Illinois, Mississippi State. Boy, I tell you what, if I feel better going against Mississippi State, if we just didn't have two of our top defensive backs say they're not gonna play. Mike Leach's air raid offense is just, I mean, that's a killer for a lot of teams.
00:42:41
Speaker
next year to see how they do.
00:42:58
Speaker
We've been very good, which surprised me because I didn't think we would, the secondary would shape up the way they had. I mean, I thought our power was going to be defensive line on our line backing core. I mean, we had some good guys in the back there like Witherspoon and Sydney Brown, but I did not expect Witherspoon to have the year that he had. I knew he was a good player.
00:43:20
Speaker
but I did not expect him to have the areas that so there's going to be a huge and I mean massive hole in that secondary trying to fill his spot. We could get exposed really quickly.
00:43:32
Speaker
if we're not able to put a lot of pressure. And I think that's where the makeup is gonna have to come for Illinois is losing the guys in the defensive backfield we've lost. I think it's gonna be very imperative on the defensive line and on the line backing core to get in there and get the job done basically. Because they're gonna have to put a lot more pressure to allow for these
00:43:59
Speaker
you know backups and and don't get me wrong we've got some good backups i mean but you know they've never been asked to play four quarters you know they've never been asked to be that primary guy and so it's gonna be very interesting how they react now offensively uh i don't know i have not heard but uh last report i've been able to find out was that chase brown was considering not playing in the bowl game but i think he is going to go ahead and play
00:44:29
Speaker
At least I have not officially heard that he's not. So that's going to be a big help. I think we've got a couple that are ready to step in, if he doesn't. Josh McCray and Reggie Love III both are ready to go in case Chase doesn't answer the call, doesn't want to play. And a lot of it is some Big Ten fans are not going to like this, but there's talk that he may try to come back next year.
00:44:57
Speaker
and play and play one more year don't know because i think he feels slighted and he really was because he was the leading running back in the nation led all running backs and rushing and did not make big 10 first team in any in any release of a big 10 ap had him second team coaches full had him second team media had him second team
00:45:18
Speaker
I think he only made a couple of All-American lists. One is an honorable mention. So I think he feels a little bit, he got a chip on his shoulder, I think. So if he does come back next year, that's why I think maybe he'll play this bowl game just to show that, hey, I'm here, boys. I'm here. Come look at me.
00:45:37
Speaker
If he does come back next year, I mean the Heisman people better be ready because he will have that kind of year I got I got no doubt my mind. I mean he's gonna have to do it with a Pretty much newer offensive line because we're gonna we got a lot of a lot of a couple of guys are gonna be going by going by by because they don't have enough years left and two of our best and I
00:46:00
Speaker
and so it's gonna be very tough I think for people not to look at this and say well what's gonna happen next year but I think Bealam is gonna have those guys ready to go I think the new defensive coordinator Aaron Henry I think he's the kids know him enough and he's been enough in enough on the game planning
00:46:22
Speaker
that I don't think the defense is going to suffer any ill effects. Andy Boo is more than capable of handling both inside and outside linebackers for a game. So I don't think that change is going to hurt us any. But the one thing I don't know, I mean, you were talking earlier about you don't know about Mizzou. I don't know how fired up and how much emotion that this Mississippi State team is going to play with.
00:46:50
Speaker
Well, I think they'll have emotion. They're new coaches. They promoted the defensive coordinator, Zach Ardent to the permanent job. So, you know, I think the new coach will, I think they'll be fired up, motivated. I just don't know that, you know, sometimes that's good and sometimes that's bad. You know, sometimes I think it's so emotional that teams don't function like they should. So, if I was betting, I'd been on Illinois.
00:47:19
Speaker
only because of the stability of having, you know, the most of their coaches there. I know Walter's won't be there, but for the most part, they have their coaches there. And well, Illinois and Mississippi State's gone through such an emotional thing. I just don't know if they're going to be
00:47:34
Speaker
how that's going to impact them. Well, I think what's interesting about it to me is that, and I kind of wrote about this in my last podcast, I talked about it. Mississippi State's known for their passing offense and Illinois has been known this year for their passing defense. By the same token, also Mississippi State has been known for their rushing defense as far as yards per carry.
00:48:00
Speaker
and Illinois is one of the top rushing offenses so it's kind of like each is playing the other's strength you know so that's gonna be I think that's gonna be the fun part to watch is even with replacement defensive backs I think seeing how Illinois reacts to that type of an offense because we haven't really faced an all-out air attack this year at all I mean really. Matt Leach won't be coaching in this game.
00:48:27
Speaker
Well, you may not be coaching in this, but I think that, I think it's still gonna be, I think their quarter best got 34 touchdowns this year, passing touchdowns. So I think, I don't, I mean, I wouldn't think the new guy would, who just says that taking over for, I didn't catch that.
00:48:48
Speaker
I don't think he'll switch from what brought him there. Especially when you look at the fact that Illinois is down to their top defensive backs. I do think Illinois will win.
00:49:03
Speaker
In realistic terms, I think they can control the clock and their defense can bother the quarterback enough to give that secondary a little bit of help, then I think Illinois is going to be fine. And I think if they can control the ball and keep Mississippi State offense off the field and give them less time to work with, I think that may help as well.
00:49:25
Speaker
I'm gonna go with Illinois on this And I think it's it's I think it's gonna be pretty people. I think I'm gonna be entertained with this game Yeah, I really do think they will yeah, you know I tell you what these bowl games of I don't know who stresses out fans coaches or players. I Really don't know Yeah, I know I know
00:49:49
Speaker
Yeah, I would say the coaches. That would be me. Yeah, well, I tell you, some of those guys, it's got to feel like buying a car. I mean, you know, you're always worried about that. But I'll tell you one place you don't have to worry about that, and that's at 5th Street Motors. They're located 2044 Rose Lane in Pacific, Missouri. And they're going to help you find the right vehicle you need, no matter what brand. 5th Street Motors believes in giving you the best price on a pre-owned vehicle that's going to fit your budget.
00:50:17
Speaker
So get Brandon or Don a call today at 573-259-1306 and tell them talking sports on the bleachers sent you. Alright now, we've pussy-footed around long enough. It is time to talk some bragging rights trash. Oh boy. You knew I was going to get around to it Russ and come on. Oh sure.
00:50:42
Speaker
Alright, well I tell you what, if Missouri's guy has had an opportunity to control and win a bragging rights game, I'm going to tell you, as much as I love what Illinois is doing, this is going to be the year. And I'll tell you why. Because in two or three games this year, when we've gone up against competition, that is...
00:51:02
Speaker
old, you know, seniors and fifth year seniors and grad guys. We haven't fared well. Virginia was a very heavy senior and grad student team and they beat us. Maryland was also in that same vein and they beat us. You got to look at that and say, okay, you know, we're going up against Missouri. I think what you've got, you guys start all seniors, don't you? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's a pretty, it's a
00:51:30
Speaker
He's a simple and a team of 10 transfers in there. A lot of them are graduates or seniors. And so there's a lot of, I guess, experience there. These guys have, of course, they've only been playing together for a short time. But there's holes in the, I mean, they're fast. If they're moving the ball up and down the court, they do fairly well. If they shoot the three fairly well,
00:52:00
Speaker
But they don't play a half course on offense very well. They don't have anybody really big underneath. I mean, they've got a 6'9, Kobe Brown, they've got another guy at 680. But you know, Kansas kind of exposed them. They got blown out by Kansas. They got their hat handed to them. And Kansas is a really good team, coached by a really good coach. And he exposed their weaknesses, took advantage of it.
00:52:30
Speaker
teams they played earlier hadn't been able. Saturday they went down to Florida and played in Central Florida and they won that game. On the last second shot they were really kind of lucky. But you know they've got some holes done so I haven't seen Illinois play but I
00:52:46
Speaker
You know, I know they played a tougher schedule than Zoo has, I think, but if I remember right. Yeah, we've had a cup course playing in that Las Vegas tournament and then, of course, the Big Ten SEC Challenge, and then we had that coaches versus cancer over in New York. So, you know, we've had our share of the big boys this year, that's for sure. Yeah, I mean, you played UCLA, you won, you lost to Virginia. Right. You beat Syracuse.
00:53:12
Speaker
and you lost to Maryland and you beat Texas, he lost to Penn State. Yeah, there's no rhyme or reason, but they've had a lot of experience playing good teams. Penn State's another one where we ran into a team that was heavy senior, heavy junior, a laden team. And I think it's because Illinois, we're starting freshmen, we're starting point guards are freshmen, two of our top reserves come out, the bench are freshmen.
00:53:40
Speaker
Um, it's really, this team is growing as they, as they play. And, you know, I think some of the problems we're having right now when we get into late January, early February, I think you're going to see a lot of those problems going right now. The biggest problem we've got is leadership.
00:54:00
Speaker
We've got two fifth-year senior, well, Shannon's not a 50, he's just a regular, but Matt Meyer's a fifth-year senior, Shannon is a senior, Terrence Shannon, junior, and then we've got our own junior Coleman Hawkins.
00:54:16
Speaker
You know, but you would think those guys would be providing some of the leadership, you know, cause they, you know, at least with like with Meyer, he's, you know, played there and you figure that he has, he knows what's going on and how to take a lead and, and.
00:54:31
Speaker
It really hasn't transferred to that really well. I know the other night when we lost to Penn State, Underwood was just beside himself. Basically said they had no leader on this team and they have a problem with leadership. Alabama A&M went on a 16-2 run against Illinois.
00:54:53
Speaker
because the guys just, they kind of lost it. And then I think Matt Meyer kicked it in and decided, you know, I'm not losing this ball game to Alabama A&M. That's just not going to happen. And he sparked basically the second half and brought them back. You just wonder against teams like that, it's fine. But when you start facing the better teams like the Missouri's, like, you know, maybe not the elite top dogs,
00:55:19
Speaker
but you're talking against, you know, your teams around your talent level, you know, like a Missouri, like a Penn State, like a Maryland, like a Virginia. You know, if they've got that leadership factor, you know, right now, Illinois, we've got all talent world. We've got a lot of athletes on that team. I mean, athletes out the butt. It's just that they don't have a direction in how they're going to go. And that's what scares me about this game coming up with Missouri.
00:55:48
Speaker
Well, I think, you know, it'll be a good measuring stick for both teams, especially if whichever team wins. I mean, you know, I know you guys have already played a big 10 schedule. Missouri has it there. The SEC schedule starts next week and they lead off against Kentucky and then they go right after that to Arkansas had to play Arkansas. Oh, lucky Missouri. A win here would be really nice, but you know, it's, uh,
00:56:16
Speaker
It's a good bellwether for both teams. It's a good, I don't know, consider where they're at. I would say Illinois is probably a little disappointed in the way they played against some teams in Missouri. Just don't know what they, how good they are. You know, they played so many mid major teams and you know, so a lot of them they rolled over and the only one they played that was a top five team was Kansas and they got
00:56:40
Speaker
they just got their hat and gave it to them. So how's the new coach going over over in Missouri there? Well so far so good I think people like him you know we'll see how they get about halfway through the SEC schedule. Right. You know the fans can turn on you pretty quick. Oh yes. He's pretty you know he's the people understand where he's at. Right. Most of the fans understand he's going to try to
00:57:07
Speaker
new scholarship players into this into this roster into lineup and they they know he's uh he's he's got but if if they can win Thursday night uh that would that sure would help the fan base a lot. Yeah. And help. Well, I'm sure give the team a lot of confidence but the last thing they want to do is get blown out by Illinois. That's the last thing they want to see happen. Um so,
00:57:37
Speaker
You know, you want to win, but you know, you just don't want to see this team get blown out again by another team. Right, right. How do you think Missouri is going to fair in the SEC this year with what you got? I think it's an 18 game schedule. I think the goal most people are hoping for. I don't know if this is the team's goal or Dennis Gates' goal. I think they'd like to see an NIT bid this year.
00:58:04
Speaker
in the first year and you know probably if they went something in an 18 game schedule they went something like 7 and 11 in the SEDC I think most people would be satisfied with that the early RIT 10 and 1 even if they lose to Illinois they'd be 10 and 2 if they could win 17 games you know that probably put them in the
00:58:27
Speaker
That probably put them in our team. I would think so. I mean, especially if they can secure a top 25, a couple of top 25 wins along the way. And like you said, beating Illinois tonight or this weekend would be something for that. I'm looking at their schedule now and I'm seeing 17 wins. I mean, that actually looking at their schedule doesn't sound like much, but then again, I don't know how strong some of these teams are basketball wise in the SEC, like a Vanderbilt.
00:58:55
Speaker
You know Kentucky strong tell you yeah, Kentucky. Yeah, Kentucky in Arkansas Everybody thinks Alabama is gonna be good this year. I'm just flipping through Tennessee. That's Auburn. So So yeah, there's some Some tough tough games they've had to face but there's a lot of winnable games on this game
00:59:25
Speaker
that aren't, you know, standouts. But the strength of the conference is probably, it's gonna be Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Auburn. Probably, they're gonna be done.
00:59:37
Speaker
Yeah, I can see that. And the same thing with Illinois, I think, you know, while I think that they're potentially, they have the, they've got the ability to win the Big 10 outright, they're going to have to start proving it. You know, because they, up to this point, they really haven't proved that they can take that league by storm. Because, you know, this is not like football where you've got the two divisions. I mean,
01:00:01
Speaker
In basketball, it's all one league. There's no east and west. Right now, we're two steps off the bottom. We're looking at 11-0 Purdue team. We're looking at Wisconsin's playing very well this year. I think up and down the line, you're seeing that happen in the Big 10. So I think if Illinois is going to get where they want, which is the outright Big 10 championship, they're going to have to kick it into high gear.
01:00:28
Speaker
And when we go up against Purdue, we're going to see what this team's really made of at that point. But I think this game here, they're going to need to beat just to prove to themselves they can beat more experienced teams. Because we've got some experienced teams in the big 10. We've already lost the two of them in Penn State and Maryland. And I think it's going to go a long way if they can beat Missouri.
01:00:54
Speaker
I'm going to say it's a close game and I'll go Illinois because that's my heart and I really do think they can win it. It would not surprise me in the least if we get knocked off. Well, you know, I feel the same way about Missouri. I'll be rooting for Missouri. I think that you win it. But, you know, it wouldn't surprise me if they lose it. So, you know, we'll just, that would just leave it that I'll pick Mizzou, you pick Illinois and then we'll
01:01:23
Speaker
though we both have reservations. We'll pick up the pieces after the game. Hey Russ, I really enjoy having you on. Tell the folks where they can find you Russ. Well on Twitter I'm Uncle Frank FR Robinson 1957. You'll find me floating around the Cardinal Facebook groups and the Mizzou Facebook groups and of course I'm blogging
01:01:50
Speaker
Mizzou Sports over at Gateway City Sports where you're at. I'm also doing right about the Cardinals at Redburg Ranch. So I'm kind of all over the place. You can find you anywhere you want to go.
01:02:05
Speaker
Hey, it's been great. And this is our final show together before the end of the year. We'll pick back up in January sometime after all the bowl games are all straightened out. And we've had a few more basketball games to look at. And we'll kind of shift from that transition from football to basketball and get ready for the March Madness. Hard to believe. I mean, you think about it. That's just around the corner.
01:02:35
Speaker
I'm telling you, it seems to go that fast, that's for sure. Hey, for Russ Robinson, this is Don Glenn, and this is Talking Sports on the Bleachers, and you can find us on Spotify, on Google Podcast, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your favorite podcasting site. You can find me, find it at Gateway City Sports. You can also look up the show's website, TalkingSports-OTB-GCS.OnPodium.com.
01:03:05
Speaker
And you can find me on Twitter at T-S-O-T-B-G-C-S. Also look up, check out my articles. I'm doing a hot stove of articles on Gateway City Sports for the Cardinals. So until next time, this is Don Glenn for my NCAA broadcast partner, Russ Robinson, wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year's. And we'll see you again when we're talking sports on the bleachers.
01:03:43
Speaker
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01:04:13
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