105. F**K THE OSCARS!

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Speaker: This week, we discuss the 97th Academy Awards hosted by Conan O'Brien. We review the long legs director Osgood Perkins's horror comedy film, The Monkey. And we examine the recently announced updates to James Gunn's DC Cinematic Universe.

Speaker: My name is Simon Eadie. And I'm Adrian Pinter. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 105.

Speaker: Bye.

Speaker: the at all Adrian, it's time. It's time for 105, my friend. It's actually 8.25 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, man, right now. Yeah, 8.25 p.m.

Speaker: on a Thursday as we record this podcast. After the the tariffs have been begun in Canada and then removed. Oh, were they already removed? I haven't been paying attention, man. It's a roller coaster.

Speaker: It's a roller coaster. I know that I didn't go into the LCBO. I just saw the the pictures on the on the line on the on the internet. Not sure if you've heard of it. um And yeah, like all the American booze is removed from the shelves, from the photographs.

Speaker: it's It's definitely strange. It's a strange time. We're not a political podcast. We're not going to really get into that and in depth, but it is very irritating, I must say. Dude, I've never been more annoyed yeah in my life.

Speaker: Yeah. It's stupid. I don't know. I feel like it's going to materially affect both countries in a bad way, just a negative way, though. Yeah. it it just doesn't there's no There's no winners here at all. I don't think there's any winner at all. i'm I'm just shocked that they would even bother, or the one man in particular would bother.

Speaker: One man with, you know, silvery blonde hair. Yeah. You know, anyway. Yeah. Putin. Yeah. Right. Sure. Whoa. ah sure who What you trying to say?

Speaker: But yeah, no, it's crazy. It's crazy. for For those who don't know, we're in Canada. I should have said that. I'm sure there's one person listening to this that doesn't know because the rest of the people that are listening to this podcast, split focus of film and TV podcast are probably people we know.

Speaker: The yeah one person who's just tuned in for a second is like from Norway. And they're like, what the hell are they talking about? We're in Canada and we're being tariffed by the US government. Although I feel like most of the world knows about the tariffs at this point because it's just been highly publicized. but a But yeah, hopefully this ah this doesn't happen ah in the end because i think they were removed somewhat. And i don't know, there's talk of them being added again in April.

Speaker: I'm not sure. I guess we'll see. You know? Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. It's almost like they don't know what they're doing. Almost.

Speaker: It's almost. It almost seems like they're just yeah winging it. Yeah. Just a little bit. It seems like it's a bit of improv. Just just a tad. Yeah. Like part of this podcast.

Speaker: Just throwing that out there, you know? Yeah. Hot take. Yeah, I like this podcast. That's right. The the thing is, is so okay so is that you have like this tension between Canada and and the United States right now, or some would call it the United States.

Speaker: um but we're You don't even get that. I just see your face. You don't even know what referencing. Anyway, regardless of that, there's tension, obviously, between Canada and the US, but I'm literally going to the US. Not sexual.

Speaker: No, not sexual. Definitely not sexual. I'm i'm going to the US in like a few hours and I'm going to Florida, which sucks. I don't want to go, but I have to go on a work trip. I don't want to go because there's obviously tension between the two countries and i don't want to give them any fuel.

Speaker: Like, oh, look at all the people that are coming to canada fro from Canada to the United States. I don't want i know But it's a work trip and I have to go. And so I am going in like literally a few hours. i have My flight leaves at 7. So I'm basically doing this podcast at 8 p.m.

Speaker: I'm going to edit the podcast immediately after. I'm going to get in my car and then get to the airport and then take the plane to Florida. i'm I'm not going to drive it. i'm You're going to take it. No, no, I'm not doing that. You're going to take it in your luggage. You're taking the plane in your luggage on your way to Florida.

Speaker: I appreciate the childlike. Yeah, the childlike joke you went with and not a more serious one. So I thank you for doing that. But anyway, yeah, I'm gonna get on a plane and I'm gonna get to Florida and then I'm going to take a Uber to the place from Orlando to a place like two hours away at some resorts.

Speaker: And then I'm going within like four hours of that, I'm like in an award ceremony. And then after the award ceremony, it'll be like 10 PM. It's just, it's going to be hectic. It's going to be a hetic couple of hours, I guess, 12 hours, 24 hours. I'm not even sure. It's a lot. It's going to be a lot.

Speaker: That's, that's what's going on with me. I agree, man. And honestly, like, ah I mean, not to not to give you any anxiety, but like, ah I wouldn't want to be on a plane right now. yeah yeah Thanks a lot. Without ah all the shit that's been going down, literally like a plane landed upside down at Pearson, like a week and a half ago or whatever. like Toronto Pearson, the the airport in Toronto. We live outside of Toronto in Guelph.

Speaker: Guelph, Ontario, for those yeah wondering that one viewer who may have already left. The Norwegian individual. but Let's hope that there's no DEI involved in in whoever's piloting your plane or whatever the excuse is. Dude...

Speaker: you You read my mind. or or Or part of the, you know, the towers, the the the people waving down the plane. Yeah, there better not be single gay there or else. Whoa.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, no, and it's it's unbelievable. It's an unbelievable time we live in, Adrian. It is really crazy. It's a crazy time. Everything's normal. Everything's fine. speaking know everything Everything's completely normal. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Speaking of normal and fine. um Remember last week we we started talking about food for a while. About half the podcast was about food and restaurants. Was that last week? I don't think so. Was it?

Speaker: Two weeks ago, I guess. I think that was last episode. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Anyways, Jersey Mike's took the place of Burgers Priest. They are reopening the Burgers Priest. They're opening it up on Clare Road.

Speaker: They've decided? Are you sure? Because I've looked into this and I didn't find that was my fiance just mentioned it literally an hour ago. Oh, wow. So she I guess she saw it, which is unfortunate that it's opening on Clare Road because they already have a Five Guys there.

Speaker: I do prefer Burgers Priest over Five Guys, personally. But it is just like, why are you having two really good burger places on the one end of town? And Five Guys is going to eat Burgers preach Priest, the the Priest of Burgers lunch, I presume.

Speaker: I presume. I don't know for sure. Presumably ah a burger at lunch. Yeah. You know, but you know, yeah. Five guys is very popular. Yeah. It's too bad. I think burgers priest is superior. I must say I do like five guys, but the fact that they closed down like burgers priest closed down because of arguably,

Speaker: Poor, was going to say viewership, which is not the word. Poor sales. Thank you. um yeah burgerson leave It leaves some tension in my brain. It needs some worry, some anxiety that they might not stay open because I do like Burgers Priest.

Speaker: My brother thinks that Five Guys is terrible. That's crazy. Five Guys is really good. it is it Is it a little much? Is it a little expensive? Most definitely. Is it good? Most definitely. thinks it's just like for people who don't go to cottage country. Because you know the chip trucks in like the cottage country? You can go to like the chip truck.

Speaker: He thinks that the five guys is basically just the chip truck. And chip trucks are kind of overrated. So that's kind of his thought. Oh, an interesting. Interesting thought. I don't know, man. I disagree.

Speaker: i like it. I like it. I like it. I like both. Yeah. for different reasons. You can like both. You can like two things. Yeah, I know. and Things can be nuanced. You know what I mean? That's right.

Speaker: Things can be nuanced. Although the internet doesn't seem to believe that, but no, no, no, for sure. It's great. Yeah. Adrian, I made a mistake last week and I just want to set the record straight.

Speaker: We haven't had too many corrections. ah Either that's because we just didn't notice or probably because we didn't notice so or it could also be because we're not taking write-ins anymore. And Kenneth Staddlebauer always wrote in with the,

Speaker: with mistakes that we've made. Oh, geez, Louise. I forgot to check to see if Kenneth Staddlebauer wrote into us. Oh, open it up. Open up the email. He didn't. He didn't. I did open it just before we started, but I forgot to look at it.

Speaker: Okay. I was waiting for it to load. Gmail was taking forever. Sorry. Turned you away. Anyway, no, hes he didn't run into us. Anyway, he didn't run into us, but I do have a correction. I talked last week. Well, we talked about Captain America, Brave New World. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: When we talked about that movie, we we didn't love it. and There was a lot of problems with it, we found. But we also talked we talked about how certain directors in the Marvel Cinematic Universe canon, the the directors that Kevin Feige tapped to make movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe from the like the first few phases were typically...

Speaker: like They were surprising sometimes, but you can kind of see why they were chosen and then they would always succeed. It seemed like they would succeed every time. It was very rare that a director would falter. Like I guess Thor 2 was kind of a falter.

Speaker: Thor the Dark World was kind of not. The Dark Thor. Yeah. Thor, the dark Thor didn't do so well. um But Peyton Reed, I mentioned yes, man, specifically. I'm like, yes, man was a good movie. I like that movie.

Speaker: Now I do like that movie. I'm not correcting that. I don't like the movie. I like it. The thing is I checked after it because I was like, wait, maybe yes man. Isn't rated that well on Rotten Tomatoes. Now, I'll take this score with a grain of salt because I also say that I feel like comedies in general don't do well in Rotten Tomatoes. And I don't know exactly why that is. I guess comedy is more of an acquired taste than drama.

Speaker: It must be just based on Tomatoes. It is very subjective. I feel like it's more subjective than than a lot of things. I suppose I kind of find that I like most comedy though. It's like, it's very infrequent that I don't like comedy movies or TV shows if they're, but I don't know. Maybe that's not true. I guess maybe I'm trying to think about what I didn't like. I typically can see the value in most of them.

Speaker: Like you didn't like Sausage Party. I was just thinking about that. Yeah. And that's actually reviewed quite well, actually in contrast and to what I'm talking about. but anyways, yes, man, the movie with Jim Carrey.

Speaker: or I referenced it as he sings in the window with a guitar. um That movie is a 45% of Rotten Tomatoes. So it's actually not well-reviewed. and So I was talking about it like, oh, look, they got Peyton Reed because he did a great job with Yes Man. But that was a really bad example.

Speaker: A better example would have been um

Speaker: Kugler. Ryan Kugler? Is that his name? Yeah. Yeah. who Who directed Creed before he did ah Black Panther. And then when he did Black Panther, he came off of Creed and the momentum kind of carried with him.

Speaker: But he didn't do that many things before that. The point was is that Joss Whedon did Firefly and all these TV shows, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which were huge hits. And then he got tapped to do Avengers. And it's kind of almost surprising because they're not that similar, but you can see how they're similar. But those shows were hit shows.

Speaker: James Gunn did hit cult classics. Then he got tapped and he did a great job. The point was is that Julius Hona, the director of Captain America Brave New World,

Speaker: not necessarily doesn't necessarily have the best track record, especially with anything with like comedy J's, I guess. And so it didn't necessarily do so well, maybe because he was not confident going in. Maybe the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general, Kevin Feige and team are not confident right now because they've had a couple of blunders or not blunders, but like a little bit of tiny marks against them. Whereas before they, it seemed like they could do no wrong. They had such a crazy hot streak. Now,

Speaker: going into these movies, they're like kind of timid. They're a little scared. There's, it's almost 50, 50. I feel like now it's like, Oh, is it going to be really great? Or is it just going to be kind of middling or disappointing or or not that great?

Speaker: Yeah. um And yeah, we're, we're kind of in this, this awkward stage, but I mean, we, we talked about it in depth last week, you know, how we felt about, uh, Captain Falcon and, and, uh, Brady leaves the nest, whatever.

Speaker: Whatever the fuck. Wait, what? been called Are you talking about the show now or the movie? The movie. Now it's getting confusing. Okay. Yeah. ah Captain America. believe brave les and Brave Falcon. Whatever. yeah You know what talking about. He's brave.

Speaker: And he's a falcon. But I don't know. Like like like we were talking a little bit about Thunderbolts. i don't know. I'm feeling a little bit positive on that. I'm feeling a little bullish. Is it going to be good? I don't think so.

Speaker: It looks good. Yeah. It looks good. And it's from it's from Jake Schreier, right?

Speaker: beef that seems right director i keep getting these that either the the first name or the last name wrong oh no oh yeah it's jake it's jake i thought it was not ryan kugler either it is jake schreier who directed beef so that and that show very good i will say it's great very good show very good show and in jake schreier's episode of skeleton crew one of my favorite episodes of that entire show so far i i've almost finished it oh are you not done it No, did you finish it? Is that why you're asking the question?

Speaker: Oh, did you start it? I haven't watched it. Oh, you haven't? haven't even started. I was so I mean, I was telling telling you how I was like I was in a little bit of ah like a Star Wars mood post and or right. um So I like I played Jedi survivor like the the PlayStation five game and I finished that and I was like, you know, I'm not really in the mood for Star Wars.

Speaker: It's a good game. It's not technically good. Like tech. Yeah. On a technical level, it's it's it falters. Yeah, the the story is all right as well. Like I liked it. I like the characters. i It feels like a middle part of a game. Like it it kind of ends like without much climax. um So, I mean, like I'll play the next one eventually yeah ah whenever that inevitably releases. And a few years after that, because I ain't ever buying one of their games at launch.

Speaker: I mean, I got this game for free and I still felt kind of like annoyed. Free with subscription. Just because of the technical hiccups. But um I mean, i I am... Again, we don't talk about video games much, but like we talk about...

Speaker: bringing in more nuanced opinions, right? Right. into yeah Into the show. And I've been playing Dragon Age, the Veilguard, which was critically actually did quite well. Commercially did not.

Speaker: Oh, Metacritic. Yeah. um Commercially did not. And, ah you know, when you hear the online ruckus about everyone's like, this game sucks. And um it doesn't. It's actually pretty damn good. I'm really enjoying it. yeah I'm really enjoying it. Thank you. I thank you. you Because I've been saying this for a while. I didn't play it, but I had a strong feeling that it was way better than people were saying.

Speaker: Because you walk around town. I work in, again, a retail adjacent job. I work with like... in some capacity with with video a video game company and so i walk around and i talk about video games all the time and and i hear people saying all the time like oh dragon is the veil guard not good not good not good i'm like have you played it no i haven't played it i'm like okay you're just spreading this opinion okay cool next person And then the next person says the same thing. Not good, not good. I'm like, okay, interesting. You don't like it either.

Speaker: and then And then I finally found someone who played it and they're like, I love it, by the way. Unpopular opinion, but I love it, they say. And like, yeah, because I don't think it's as bad as it is. What's happening is the specific clips, there's specific clips that are very...

Speaker: Very, I guess, quote unquote, woke. And therefore those clips are floating around the internet yeah on every social media, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok over and over again. And that's the only thing ever anyone ever sees. And that's what they hate. And I'm going to assume you're about to say the writing's not perfect.

Speaker: But yeah, like it isn't like, I haven't gotten to that point where I haven't even met that character yet. Um, in my playthrough, I guess okay that they come in a little later. And I mean, again, I've seen that clip and it is a poorly written like three minutes. Like, it's just like, it's, it's so poorly executed. I find watching that. Right.

Speaker: Um, and it's like, I really liked Dragon Age, the Dragon Age series, and they've always been very open, like very progressive. Like, uh, you know, in, in Inquisition, which is like like the one prior to this came out, which one game of the year 2014, 2014, like over a decade ago, but there's literally like a party member who is gay and like, he's, he's he's like a mage and his parent and part of royalty. And then his parents, you know, find out that he's gay and they can't marry him off to a woman. So they send him to essentially like a gay conversion therapy camp that like mages go into your mind.

Speaker: So like they've touched on this, but it was done so elegantly and, and, fantastically realistically. um Whereas like when I've seen those clips circling, they just, it's, it's, better yeah, not, not well written, but so far in the game, again, I'm about 10, 10, 12 hours in, give or take a bit.

Speaker: I'm really like, I'm having a good time. Again, the writing's not perfect. There are little things that kind of annoy me about some parts. Like, um In previous games, you can give like your party members a gift.

Speaker: And like, usually there's like some dialogue back and forth and, oh, like this is sentimental to me because of this. But in this one, you literally walk up to your party members and it's like, oh, thank you. And that's it. That's like a brief cutscene. like, oh.

Speaker: So little things like that annoy me. The extra work they didn't put in. Yeah, it's it's but it's far from bad, dude. Far from it. And it's it's quite fun. The hair physics, man. The hair physics is crazy. I saw some hair physics, the hairography, I could say.

Speaker: It's crazy how the hair strands are so so individual. It's crazy. that That's like looks like the best hair in video games, I must say. It's a beautiful game. But it looks great. And it's polished for right? and it's polished for p s fivepro right Yes, the art style is a little bit jarring, like coming from the other Dragon Age games. There's a weird like almost airbrush effect on every person's face.

Speaker: Everyone's complexion is like oddly clear, which is it throws me off a bit ah because, you know, in in the previous games, like there are people that like, you know, like it's it doesn't look perfect, but everyone is like airbrushed to shit. And it's a little jarring.

Speaker: um But i don't know. It does a lot of cool things. um again we're not a video game podcast so i don't really want to stay on this too long but like the i will just say yeah on the nuanced perspective it kind of it's kind of sad what happened to this game because you didn't buy it at launch probably because of the all the negative hype you heard about it and you got it for free on playstation plus the essential tier gave you that free game i got it for free too i'm not a big dragon age guy so just i'm not going to play for that reason it's nothing to do with the hype, the negative hype, because I had a strong feeling it was way better than then than it is, but nobody bought it.

Speaker: So like I think a million people bought it or something like that. I think less, because they said like one point something million players, and you can get it with and stuff. Right, and it's free for EA Play with EA Play. It might be free with Game Pass with EA Play. I'm not sure how that works. I don't know.

Speaker: that's and Regardless of that, that was that's pretty sad, because there's so there's a full team that worked on this, and all this negative... negative talk about it kind of just killed it. It's like, it kind of sucks. Like, it's just shit.

Speaker: And you yeah again, you didn't buy it because you because you couldn't cut through the you couldn't cut through it. It's hard to cut through the internet's like, this is bad, this is bad, this is bad. I'm all i'm worried about Intergalactic the Heritage Prophet, the Neil Druckmann-directed Naughty Dog game, which is like a...

Speaker: We don't know if they're even going to make another The Last of Us now. um but But this is the next game from Naughty Dog, which is super exciting. And there's so much negative hype on the internet about it. Although Naughty Dog has a much better track record than BioWare, who makes Dragon Age. So theoretically, it will be yeah better perceived by the vast yeah audience out there. But anyway.

Speaker: I mean, to give you a quick correction, sign like I didn't not buy it because of the negativity. Yeah. um I didn't buy it at the time because I had a bunch other games on the go. Oh, yeah. I was playing Metaphor and a bunch of that stuff.

Speaker: But just imagine a world in which it was a 95, maybe 90% on Metacritic. Or it wasn't even what the score is now, but you heard a bunch of people just praising it, praising it, praiszing and praising You might have chosen that that was your next game you buy. You didn't buy it at all. You never bought it.

Speaker: Think about that. You might have played ah off, like you play Metaphor Refrontasio, which is a great game. 90% on Metacritic. And like it literally almost won game of the year. And so, because it was nominated.

Speaker: But then after that, you then buy Veilguard because you're like I know I have to get to this. Right? Because you you have the hype to buy it. Because if you purchased it, There is a difference than getting it for free. Everyone got it for free who has PlayStation Plus. That's what I mean.

Speaker: Yeah, it just it's interesting because, yeah, like I had metaphor on the go. And then I think it was like almost Black Friday ish time. By the time I was kind of getting done, I was like, oh, I'll wait for, you know, sales. And then other games went on sale for more substantial discounts. I was like, okay I'll get that.

Speaker: Veilgarden, I'm sure, will go on sale eventually again. And then went on sale, but I was playing other stuff. And then all of a sudden it's free. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. I don't have to buy. But I almost bought it like online like for like $30. And I just didn't. It was like on on this auction site that I used.

Speaker: And I just didn't. win It's not eBay. It's like a different thing. But anyways. Anyways. yeah I digress. I digress. Nuance. Nuance. Yeah. The world is lacking it right now. That's for sure.

Speaker: Bam. Okay. Yeah. All right, buddy. Let's get on to the quick bite news. The quick bite news of the film and TV industry, my friend. Let's it. The first topic is a huge one.

Speaker: and And I don't want to make this podcast go on all like all night. So I'm going to try to be quick with it. um it's ah It's very strange. Last week, we had our topic of the show be the the James Gunn, Peter Safran, DC Universe, Warner Brothers' new approach to trying to do the DC universe and film TV and potentially also can somehow connected video games.

Speaker: and And then right after that, i don't know if you saw this, but there was an article that literally came out where basically, it's not really an article, it was a presser. There was a presser that Gunn and Safran were at with a bunch of like the variety folks and the people at Deadline, these publications.

Speaker: And they started to talk about what their next plans are because it it had been two years since they had announced all of these projects with that James Gunn initial like seven minute like teaser of what's coming for the DC universe.

Speaker: So like basically what we were saying wasn't moot, but it was kind of completely like the edge was taken out of it. So I'm i'm basically going to go through the concepts of what they talked about in that.

Speaker: And then we can just briefly talk about them as we go. Is that something? Okay. Sounds great, man. All right. So here it is. First thing is, This is a crazy thing, I think. Their plan is to release two live-action films per year, one animated film per year, two live-action series per year, and one animated series per year.

Speaker: That's pretty crazy. That's a lot. Yeah. That's a little bit too much. it's It's especially crazy considering we're seeing that like a lot of people equate marvel like Marvel's decline into the access of TV and movie all coming out. like a lot I feel like a lot of people are equating to that, right? So it's almost like...

Speaker: DC, again, is a little bit behind and they're learning. They're not learning from other people's mistakes. you know Yeah, they're backward thinking here. A little bit, maybe. But I don't know if that's true, though.

Speaker: i i still I think that if you made good products, if you made products, good art in these stories and you told a good story, then you wouldn't have that issue. People would potentially go see it. Like I, I have yet to see a Marvel movie. That's at like a 90 on, on, on Rotten Tomatoes. That just doesn't sell.

Speaker: That hasn't happened. Not that I'm recalling anyway. It's typically the movie is not reviewed. Well, that, like yeah like The but best example is Captain America Brave New World. it it just didn't People aren't seeing it as much, which we'll talk about it a little bit later, because of the fact that it didn't review that well, I think.

Speaker: I think that's what kind of happened. So it's like a negative hype. and So i we'll see what happens. But James Gunn and Peter Safran's passion for this is cool. This is what they said, actually. um to talk about what they also said at the presser.

Speaker: They said, Peter Safran specifically said, quote, the DC brand was being defined by different creative teams at the company and each was puruing pursuing their own distinct vision of the characters, the stories, and it left very little room to collaborate or cross over.

Speaker: So it wasn't one DCU, but many, Safran said. Then he goes on to say, ultimately, this fracture proved very challenging for consumers and chipped away at the very identity of our brand.

Speaker: So this is part, this in part is what brought us to DC Studios, bringing a sense of unity, cohesion, consistency to this universe, not only making it Oh, wait, what?

Speaker: feel like this is written badly. or but this is i took this right from deadline. Anyway, consistency. Yeah, i was reading in the article as well. There's a couple moments where I'm like, wait, what the fuck? And I had to reread the lines a couple times. It's not you. it's weird because it's a quote.

Speaker: I think they should have read their own um transcription of the quote. <unk> But ah anyway, consistency of this universe not only makes the sense to us as storytellers, but it has to be the future of the DC brand. People want to see these iconic characters interacting. They want to experience this timeless IP as one.

Speaker: That's a cool idea. i will say that just to before I throw it to you. I will say though, it's not just about making it one, but also making it independently great in each individual TV show and movie. That's the thing that Kevin Feige said near the beginning, I think, of the MCU being successful.

Speaker: And so I hope that's what they figure as well and in the end. But I do think that based on another quote that I'm going to read soon, that I think that they do – Actually, not a quote that I was going to read soon. That was a quote from the other thing. The first thing two years ago in 2023, when James Gunn did that presentation, he said that it's really all about the stories and that's all that matters is the storytelling. If the storytelling is not good, that it's not then it's not good.

Speaker: yeah it's's That's the main focus of of making a good story. Like universe is actually just telling each story and the whole overall story he in ah in a good way that the stories is what matters.

Speaker: and That I agree. Yeah, definitely. But he said before. Yeah. Anything to add to that? oh No, no, not really. but I agree with you. outlook on that.

Speaker: Cool. Gunn also hinted at an Avengers level event project when he said, although this is not really related to an Avengers level event, this quote, but he said specifically, quote, I know what my basic plan is over the next six years, unquote.

Speaker: That to the deadline reporter, they thought that meant that he meant that in six years, we're going to have a Avengers level event. Like I assume a Justice League type movie, but I don't know what it means.

Speaker: Yeah. Well, maybe not. Maybe something random. Okay. Before we get into the the projects that are happening and the updates on them, the last thing Peter Safran said that was I thought was important was he said, everything that David Zaslav, the Warner Brothers Discovery president and CEO,

Speaker: promised us two years ago when we took the job, it's all been a relate reality since we've been in the job, unquote. That is super important because we talked about maybe there'd be studio meddling.

Speaker: I still think that if Superman fails, there'll be studio meddling. Oh, definitely. So good luck to you. But it i don't it doesn't look like it's going to fail just based on the trailer. The trailer looks great.

Speaker: Yeah, unless it's like a total dog shit movie like it's yeah like it can just be totally serviceable and good. And I think it's going to ah do huge numbers.

Speaker: i'm I'm more positive on it, though. Like, I think it's going to do very well. Yeah. Because it beat records, right? It's the most watched Warner Brothers trailer of all time, like in the shortest amount of time, something like that. Something like that. Within the, yeah, within a short span of time, it was watched tremendous amount.

Speaker: Yeah, i'm I'm a little fuzzy on the dog, but anyway. I like the dog. like the the dog. But it's just like, what is this? What is the tone here? I'm i'm just like questioning what's the tone. There's a lot of characters also being introduced all at once. There's a lot of, there's a green lantern in there played by Nathan Fillion.

Speaker: There's a lot going on. here That's the question I have is like, can you manage this, all of this, but also managed to not be completely jokey tone? Like his past movies in MCU is an example, Guardians of the Galaxy, and then his DC movie.

Speaker: DC current properties that James Gunn was directly a part of being Peacemaker and so the Suicide Squad, not Suicide Squad, but the Suicide Squad, which are both kind of a joke. And Creature Commandos. What's that?

Speaker: And Creature Commandos as well. could you commit Perfect example. Again, yeah to very misfit movies, kind of like road movie type things or TV shows where everyone's just joking around and yeah in a large way. It gets serious. there's emotional tone there but it's still different to be a superman movie so i'm that i'm so curious about but the music in that trailer the overall trailer presentation was great doesn't mean the movie's gonna be good but i think it was good i'm just i think the dog is like an indicator for me it's like do you need the dog like you've got a lot of characters how do you and also introduce this dog how does the dog have superpowers what's going on in this universe is just a lot going on as the introductory movie that's my yeah

Speaker: I think at a certain point, you just don't have to explain everything. Like, I think we're going into this universe and it's very clearly been around for many years. There's heroes about.

Speaker: i don't think they're going to be like, oh, crypto came from a meteor ah from Krypton when when it fell. and And he's, you know, they might be surprised. But like, I don't think that.

Speaker: I they might. They might. Who knows? And it's going to be the best part of the movie because it's going to be like the sad part where it's this lonely dog looking for a friend until he meets Clark Kent, you know, and and everyone's going to be crying in the theater being like, oh, this poor little dog. And then he's like, oh, my God, i just met my best friend.

Speaker: Actually, he should do that. I just made an entire idea. Yeah. Take you the idea, James Gunn. Reshoot the movie. hmm. Yeah. Yeah. You don't even have to reshoot it. Just add in those scenes.

Speaker: All right. Just like a dog bark. Yeah, wouldn't they still consider that reshoots though if they have to shoot that and then add it into the movie? Yeah, probably. for resutots anyway You're right. you're right but All right, buddy. Let's quickly, swiftly get through the what they said about the actual projects and where they're where they're at.

Speaker: First of all, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow is still coming June 26th, 2026. And it's meant to be directed by Tonya director Craig Gillespie.

Speaker: That's a pretty big name. It's a great movie. I can use you thing. Yeah. And then we also have a Clayface movie coming September 11th, 2026. Strange date to have a movie.

Speaker: yeah

Speaker: Yeah. I wonder, i wonder that anyway, quick, quick, quick, quick interruption here. I'm very curious if this Clayface movie is actually a part of like the, like DC universe proper, like this ongoing thing. Yeah, I think so. Or if it's going to be separate. And the reason I ask this It's because of creature commandos and certain things that are referenced in it.

Speaker: So creature commandos is a part of it. ah No, I'm aware. It's not Elskirlds, which is like the like the Batman. I know, I know. you think Clayface may be related to Bat-Raves-iverse?

Speaker: Clayface is directly referenced in creature commandos. Oh. Yeah. So like, yeah. And I'm just curious, like based on everything. Why that though? that That's so silly. Like why would you even draw your attention to it? Like you, you have too many Elseworlds things. Everything everything is Elseworlds. Like don't do any more Elseworlds. You know what i'm saying?

Speaker: Yeah, no, I follow you. So I'm just, I'm just curious how they're going to do it. Yeah. um This is directed by Mike Flanagan. I don't know. no, no, no. no No, directed by Speak No Evil director. oh I'm so sorry. I got the wrong name here.

Speaker: Mike Flanagan is the dude from House of Fall of the House of Usher. Why I know his name? Haunting Hill House. Hush. Yeah, yeah. Do you have that guy's name? Do you have the the guy James Watkins. The guy is Speak No Evil. Yeah.

Speaker: Speak No Evil director James Watkins. Yeah. I had Mike Flanagan here twice I was like, what? What's going on? I just copied and pasted the wrong name. Anyway. Yeah. Did you watch that? Speak No Evil?

Speaker: Yeah. yeah you yeah You like it? The James McAvoy one. Yeah. Where he's. Yeah. Seems to be. It seems to be some kind of child abuse. Yeah. I did watch it. It's pretty good.

Speaker: It's pretty good. Okay. Good. It's a fun movie. Cool. No, it's not that fun, but it's a good time. It's a thrilling movie. Yeah. It's a thriller.

Speaker: It's a thriller. Yeah, I watched that. I think I watched that with my like mom and my sister and and my fiance. We did like a movie day because my mom really likes James McAvoy. ah so okay.

Speaker: Yeah, she she loves him as an actor. Oh, all right. Sounds good. Okay. um we They also have a writer that should not be named for pressure reasons. i don't know read this.

Speaker: did. the Batman Brave and the Bold, right? And Andy Muschietti will be the first one to write the script. we're Sorry, read the script from this unnamed writer because they're worried that if they say the name of the writer, the pressure will be on and they won't be able to write the rest of the script, which Okay, sure.

Speaker: And apparently the main kind of plot point they're going off for this Batman, the Brave and the Bold story is that Batman doesn't know who know that he actually has a son. That's the premise. Like Damon Wayne?

Speaker: Yeah. Damian Wayne? Damian. Damian. Damian Wayne. Damian Wayne. Damian Wayne. Damian Damian Wayne. Damian Wayne is that actor that you're thinking of? I didn't say Wayans. I said Wayne. I said Damon Wayne. Okay. It's Damian Wayne.

Speaker: Anyway, regardless of that, that's interesting. I wonder who the writer is, but Andy Muschietti might not direct it though. I got that impression from that. i don't know if you kind of got that impression as well. It looks like Andy Muschietti will be like, we'll read the script and then you'll determine if he wants to do it.

Speaker: Yeah. He just proofreads it. He's the proofreader at Warner Bros. That's all he does. Yeah. Yep. There's no Oxford comma here. Added. That's it. Okay.

Speaker: ah The next one they talked about, or I don't know what order this is in, but this is the order of the deadline article. um that They also talked about challenge the Challengers writer, Justin Krizky's writing a script for the Sergeant Rock movie.

Speaker: the No, the challenge wait sorry Challengers a writer, you said. Yeah, that's what I said. And then you got the Luca Guadagnino. The director of that movie. ah is Also the director of Challengers. Correct. yeah The team that made Challengers, where the writer and director, are apparently writing the Sergeant Rock movie.

Speaker: Was supposed to have, theoretically, Daniel Craig in it, but that he bailed out now. So he's not doing that. um But yeah, it's supposed to be like a World War II set movie.

Speaker: And it's supposed to shoot really soon, like this summer. that's That's happening. That's that's well on its way, which is cool. We were kind of negative on our our podcast this week. We were talking about how, oh, they don't have anything together.

Speaker: But now they – that's why it was funny. We we launched this – I think even our episode launched a day after they announced that they have a lot together. Yeah. So anyway, the next thing they talked about or another thing they talked about was the Swamp Thing movie that is still happening, but they're not completely sure what's going on with that because James Mangold kind of holds all the cards.

Speaker: James Mangold is supposed to direct it. Director of Logan and A Complete Unknown, which was just nominated for Best Picture. And then i don't know if you have anything to say about that.

Speaker: Just stop me if you do. Put your hand up. hey Hey, buddy. Oh, you do have something to say. What do you have to say? No, no, no, I don't. i don't. I was just showing you an example. Okay, cool.

Speaker: ah There's a Teen Titans film from Anna Nguera.

Speaker: apparently being made but she doesn't written that much else to be honest so it's not really much to say with that i don't know i don't really have a good connection with teen titans i think it's kind of silly so and i don't care about that like the like the old like teen titans tv show sure you like it yeah i loved i loved all that i never watched teen titans go but like i watched the original what is it three seasons aired on YTV here in Canada.

Speaker: Right. Wasn't there a ah TV show? ah Sorry, a CW live action TV show? Obviously, it was a TV show. the end Yeah, I don't know if that was CW, though, or if it it was like, because like Doom Patrol, it was connected to the Doom Patrol thing, and I don't think that was technically on CW.

Speaker: I think it's like a... What's that? Didn't it star like Ian Glenn from like Game of Thrones? Game of Thrones. Yeah, he was in it. He played the Batman in there. Batman, which is really cool. I like Ian Glenn a lot. He's in Silo. He's excellent. Yeah.

Speaker: No, but it's I think it aired on like HBO Max at the time. Like it was like a streaming thing because I remember like when they released that first teaer teaser. You mean Max? Whatever the fuck. Yeah, who cares?

Speaker: ah What a bad marketing decision. Every time I think about it, I'm like, what the hell are you thinking? HBO literally holds weight. It's Gravitas. Anyway. I feel like everyone still calls it max or HBO Max, but whatever.

Speaker: They do because it's so stupid. and nobody Why would you do that? But why would you? don't know. That's so dumb. Anyway, because yeah, he's still looking at like this thing. this These Teen Titans, they swear because the trailer, the first one, it's Dick Grayson. He's like, fuck Batman or whatever. Oh, wow.

Speaker: I don't know if you remember. I watched the first season of that. It was fine. That's fine. It was an HBO Max show. I was correct. Okay. Good for you.

Speaker: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It was good for me. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so ah The Authority, that movie The Authority with superheroes I'm not familiar with it at all. ah That apparently is still happening, but it got delayed.

Speaker: um There's apparently ideas that they've used in other movies like the Superman legacy movie, and they kind of they kind of overlap in weird ways, but they're trying to like just keep kind of correcting the script to make it work in the dcu but who knows when that's coming peacemaker is obviously launching in august so getting onto the tv shows the waller series was affected by writer strikes but it's still happening apparently the lantern series we talked about and that was pretty accurate when we talked about it last week or the last bi-week i guess uh the lantern show is coming apparently early 2026 the plan the penguin series uh

Speaker: like the penguin season two is may, may or may not happen. It completely depends on Colin Farrell, apparently, or at least half depends on Colin Farrell, whether they have a good idea for it. The Themyscira game of Thrones style, HBO series, like wonder woman's home Island. It's supposed to be kind of like game of Thrones.

Speaker: That was in the works, but it is delayed. And then the booster gold, I think it's a show then. It's a show. The Booster Gold show, they changed showrunners apparently. They had somebody who they were had working on it or they really wanted to work on it. And then they that person bailed and then they picked up another showrunner apparently.

Speaker: I thought that Booster Gold was going to be played by Kumail Nanjiani. I had a strong feeling that that was what was happening. Interesting. Because Kumail...

Speaker: So Superman, apparently, it seems like, so unless you know of Kamil's role in Superman, it was it's weird. So the at the Olympics, when they were filming the Superman movie, ah the Olympics last summer, they're film there i think they were filming up, they're wrapping filming of Superman.

Speaker: And Kamil Nanjiani was with the cast of Superman at the Olympics together with James Gunn. Oh. I think James Gunn was there too. But they had a lot of the the different cast members there. Like, I think Nathan Fillion was there.

Speaker: um like David Cornswit was there, the guy who plays Superman. They had a bunch of these guys there, but Kamail was there. I'm like, hmm, that's interesting. so I thought, who would Kamail be playing? but I get this impression that Kamail Nanjani would play a really great Booster Gold, from what I understand of who Booster Gold is.

Speaker: He's just this egotistical guy. He's got like futuristic tech, and he comes into the comes from the future to the past and pretends he's this... Like this really powerful guy is just like, it's just, he's full of shit, which is cool. Like Camille plays really great full shit characters. I feel like when he, when he does them.

Speaker: So anyway, that's cool. i to them But I don't know. I thought going be Nathan Fillion, honestly, just based on initial photo, but Nathan Fillion is obviously playing ah like a pompous green lantern. So I feel like that that was fan casting from like decades ago. Like Nathan Fillion as, as booster gold.

Speaker: Maybe not decades. Dude, this guy gets fan casted in so many things that seem like they're perfect for him. And honestly, they are perfect for him, but then he never gets casted in them, even though they seem perfect. I'm like, what has this guy done? He's also a comic book nerd a little bit. He likes these types of things. He likes video games. He likes these types of comic booky things too.

Speaker: And he just doesn't like the best example of that would have been, of course, Uncharted. He was fan casted for years as Nathan Drake. And then they literally did a fan film made by a fan. That was great, by the way, like a short film, like what, 15 minutes long, 12 minutes long.

Speaker: And he's great in that, but he's just too old, I think, at this point. But by the at the time, when people fan casted him, he wasn't too old. Just no one wanted to cast him. It was very strange. I really don't understand that.

Speaker: And then I think, for me, that fan short film, that kind of legitimized to me in my mind that he's perfect for that role and they just missed the opportunity because they're just fools. But anyway, they're being foolish with their casting.

Speaker: Regardless. But yeah, the last thing here, ah Blue Beetle animated series is apparently happening from the Blue Beetle movie director, Angel Manuel Sota. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: Not necessarily interested in that, but I didn't see the Blue Beetle movie, did you? yeah No, no. I think it's on Netflix here in Canada. i just got Reviewed very well, though. Yeah. That is reviewed reviewed very well. Again, it's but this is another one of those, like, it just kind of adds to the confusion. Like, is that movie actually connected to this universe? This does add to the confusion.

Speaker: Yeah, it's like, that's the, there's so much, there's so much going on. I love it. So I read that quote in the beginning that it was Peter Safran saying like the DC brand, whatever like you're, there was too many creative teams working on it and they weren't cohesive and we're trying to make one, this timeless IP is one because that's cool, dude. But why is there so much confusion? Like that's a great example. The blue beetle movie. We don't seriously know if that is even connected.

Speaker: yeah And you didn't really make the lines clear. Like there should be like a ah website that just shows you this is included. This is not. Or this is like, this is included in our, the current timeline. Cause I'm sure they're going to do a multiverse at some point and just show that off. And that's it.

Speaker: Just make it clear. It's not that hard in my opinion. I agree. The other thing I'm curious about is how the video games are going to be connected. I did want to just throw a shout out here because I really like monolith.

Speaker: the product, the, the game studio that just got shut down. Warner brothers games has not got their shit together from my perspective, at least from a fan's perspective. I think they're not doing a great job. I don't think it has to do with the head of, of Warner brothers. Although people keep attributing to that. We listened to a podcast and they were attributing recently. Like actually two people attributed in two different versions of that same podcast network.

Speaker: They're like David Zaslaw's fault. It's David Zaslaw's fault. I'm like, I don't think so. I don't know where you're getting that from because David Zaslav didn't greenlight yeah great green light instead of another Batman game, Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League. As much as so Suicide Squad to Kill the Justice League is not a bad game from our perspective, having played it, you and I. Yeah, haven't played it in a while. We should get back to it i know we should do that. I like it and i really want to finish it so I have a good perspective on it because from my perspective playing it for six, seven hours with you, I think it's actually quite good. The problem with it is it's just...

Speaker: These kind of live service games are all about microtransactions, and this is not what fans really like. yeah yeah If you're going to do microtransactions, you got to really sneak them in. I think that's the only way that anyone's going to like it. And if you're going to use an old hat, amazing studio like Rocksteady, who's made the Arkham series, Arkham Asylum City and Knight, you kind of have to...

Speaker: um not do that actually just don't do that just make that studio make their own thing that that's very much what they like to do is single player games unless they really wanted to do this which actually is kind of evident because of how good it is but I feel like they got forced to add in more microtransactions and more replayability um because of the fact that Warner Brothers is a bit seems a bit greedy at the at the moment. But regardless of that, they just shut down three studios, the most important of which, in my opinion, is Monolith.

Speaker: Monolith made The Lord of the Rings, ah Shadow of Mordor, and Shadow of War games. I love those games because of the Nemesis system. It's just so immersive. I love the Nemesis system. I'm really disappointed. I was really hoping like I thought James Gunn would come in and say, oh, they're making a Wonder Woman game because that's what Monolith was making. I thought they would come in and say, oh, we're going to make it connected to the the universe because apparently video games are going to be connected to the overall DCU.

Speaker: But it doesn't look like obviously that happened because they shut down Monolith instead. i don't know if you have anything to say about that. We're not a video video game podcast, but I am very disappointed to hear that Monolith was shut down. That's that's what I Yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker: It's disappointing to say the least. I don't have much to add. It is. It's frustrating. I'm not as big of a fan as ah of the Lord of the Rings games as you were. I played the first one for a bit, enjoyed it, yeah had a pretty good time and then just never kind of went back to it.

Speaker: um But I don't know. i I was curious about a Wonder Woman game. But the the the iron irony is, is when that game was rebooted, they took out the Nemesis system anyways. Yeah. So even if they were to release it, we we still wouldn't have gotten anything with the Nemesis system. And it's I don't know. It's it's silly.

Speaker: But yeah, it just seems like wasted talent, wasted It's frustrating as someone that loves video games. So they could have a Batman game with a Nemesis system. Dude, it would have worked so well. you It would have.

Speaker: The Nemesis system is the star of the show, if you don't know what their audience... The Nemesis system basically is a hiary hierarchy of enemies. As your character gets defeated by any of these enemies, ah in specifically the Lord of the Rings games, you they they they move up in this hierarchy. So it's like ah kind of like ah almost like a...

Speaker: ah kind of almost like a family tree of of villains that basically move up in the world as they defeat you. And as you defeat them, they get moved down a peg. um And so that was really cool, but it was, it created these crazy emerging gameplay moments where you kind of, it's very, very immersive.

Speaker: and So that was the best part of the Lord of the Rings games, but Monolith, That was their signature thing. And then Warner Brothers patented that system for some goddamn reason. And then no one else can use it now.

Speaker: And now Monolith is shut down and Monolith wasn't even using that for the Wonder Woman game. So it's just, it's, yeah it's complete. It's a complete mess. it It kind of sucks. Regardless of that. Let's move on. Yeah. But okay.

Speaker: um According to Matthew Bologna's publication, Puck, really Matthew Bologna, because I think he's the main writer there, but it's full of Bologna. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's not very nice.

Speaker: Um, basically Puck, which follows the film and TV industry. He talked about, or they talked about Lucasfilm president, uh, Kathleen Kennedy is apparently looking to step down from her post as the steward of the star Wars franchise within the next year.

Speaker: Adrian, any thoughts on that? Oh yeah. Thank God she's stepping down and that's going to fix everything because it's her fault that everything related to star Wars is bad. Um, and she single-handedly, this one woman ruined everything.

Speaker: um So thank God. Of course. Yeah, she's coming in. ah it yeah You know, I mean, it's it's just, right yeah, it's silly. Like it it to do ah solely put the blame on this this woman that has been with Lucasfilm for many years that has released phenomenal content, including Andor.

Speaker: And just always focusing on the negativity. um I don't know. It's it's tough. um But, you know, I hope she has a you know happy retirement. And again, I'm not like i' I'm being facetious. Like I genuinely don't think her leaving is going to fix anything because I don't think she was the problem with with what Lucasfilm was doing with ah Star Wars.

Speaker: um But yeah, what's what's what's your perception on this, man? So my thought on this is that she's had a hit and miss history. She hasn't been perfect.

Speaker: And the main thing I would like to point out, and this is the thing that I really, really have a lot of issues with, is it clearly they did not plan the sequels out. And that's part of her job, in my opinion. I'm so sorry, but that is her job.

Speaker: And the fact that she didn't plan them out or help or ask someone to plan them out. Like hire someone to plan it out. i don't know. Get JJ to plan it out if you're going to get him to do it or Rian Johnson to do it.

Speaker: Whoever it is, but you need to plan out the sequels. You can't be winging it as you go. You have to have at least an idea of how it would begin, how it would have a middle and how would have an end. And that just was not planned.

Speaker: And as a result of that, they haven't really been able to get any movies off the ground because of this. And that's kind of the issue for me with ah Kathleen Kennedy. I think that that's the problem, but she's also put a lot of shows out ah since like the failure that was rise of Skywalker in my mind.

Speaker: um Actually, the failure that was Solo, a Star Wars story, which is actually a great movie. I really like that movie, actually. I don't. Yeah, I'm very lukewarm on the Han Solo movie called it Solo, a Star Wars story. I like it. But yeah, it's not the best by any means, by any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker: But I like it, though. But the point about that is that like that movie failed commercially. That's where it failed. It didn't fail critically. Yeah. Rise Skywalker failed critically, but somehow people liked it.

Speaker: That's a strange one. Either that's a lie, probably a lie. Maybe the average user, ah and like average viewer actually didn't like Rise of Skywalker, but that's not what Rotten Tomatoes shows. Is it very positive on Rotten Tomatoes? Like audience score?

Speaker: ah Positive for audience score and the reverse in in the critics score. Damn, that's crazy. And then Jedi... jedi I know people that like that movie. The Last Jedi is the opposite. Critics love that movie. It's a not over a 90. Yeah, that movie's great. I stand by that. I think Rise of Skywalker is fucking trash and it it literally just like left such a negative taste in my mouth.

Speaker: I can't think... of any redeeming things of that movie. And I know we talk about being nuanced, but I like like when I think of that movie, I just get this visceral, like sort of, there's nothing good about it.

Speaker: I can't, I cannot think of a single thing that I enjoyed about that movie. um Whereas like, I mean, again, someone that really loves The Last Jedi. I can think of things that I don't like about it, but I don't think it ruins the movie for me.

Speaker: I really love that fucking movie. I think there's plenty, plenty of great ah stuff going on. So I don't know. I and don't know. I'm trying to think of that movie and it's so forgettable. It's so.

Speaker: Disappointing. Pretty disappointing. yes that's Yeah. That's one of my least favorite movies of all time. Yeah. i'm like I'm in the same boat with you, man. You know what's good about it, though? The music's good.

Speaker: And the the sound effects are good. It sounds star like Star Wars. It looks like Star Wars. The the graphic visual effects are good. All that aspect, cool. But the plot line is so bad that it's just unredeable.

Speaker: And that's the issue. Um, regardless of that, the point about Kathleen Kennedy, I'm making though on a nuanced perspective, she is not bad. She is a sum of her parts. And I think that she's done a great job, but she also faltered with that sequel series. And that kind of set lots of things in motion of a toxic fan base that we really don't maybe could have avoided a little bit if she, if they had planned it out a little bit more specifically. Although to be honest, Star Wars is the, the fan base is always kind of an angry.

Speaker: post the original trilogy, you know? I don't know. Yeah, definitely. After the original trilogy aired, were happy, I guess. Some people didn't like Return of the Jedi, but then when the prequels came out, people hated it, and then people grew up with the prequels and loved it. I'm wondering if anyone will grow up and love the sequels.

Speaker: That's the question I have. Maybe. i Maybe. But the thing about the prequels is that they have a cohesive story because George Lucas made made sure that it worked together. like The sequels don't work because they literally retconned things in Rise of Skywalker that happened in The Last Jedi.

Speaker: So how can when you anyone watch all three and think, oh, these are all good? I don't understand that personally, but I still think The Last Jedi is one of my favorite Star Wars movies, as controversial as that may seem. No, I'm in the same boat as you, man.

Speaker: I agree. But we're not real Star Wars fans. Yeah, yeah. And I also like The Acolyte. So there's that. Yeah. Andor probably the best Star Wars thing that exists. It is.

Speaker: It is. but That I've seen, at least. I haven't i haven't watched The Acolyte. Right. um Or...

Speaker: The Clone Wars. like the Here's the thing too. this series Kathleen Kennedy's out, right? Potentially. We'll see. Maybe that's not even true, but they say it is. And so she's out. And then what if they get somebody worse?

Speaker: Like, it's like, we, yeah and she's not bad. Am I crazy? Who are they bringing in? Simon Kinberg or whatever? Simon Kinberg is doing something. He's, he's the architect. Apparently I think that's what they're saying. He's Simon Kinberg of, uh, X-Men apocalypse fame.

Speaker: God, he is. That movie made me throw a bagel out of my trunk. Onto a Cineplex wall. Do you remember that? I do remember it. You had a cream cheese bagel in your trunk. We walked over to your car. You popped the trunk, grabbed the bagel, and you threw it against the wall, the Cineplex, and then you drove away.

Speaker: Pretty much. Yeah. I did throw it in the garbage after. I didn't later. We should do a topic of the show eventually about Star Wars and how they've got Simon Kinberg... in charge of the Star Wars universe in some capacity. i think he's the architect story of the sequels, the next sequels, the you see new, sky apparently they're going back to the Skywalker saga.

Speaker: Which is a strange choice. Just do something different already. See, that's Kathleen Kennedy, though, too. See, you take the good and the bad. Like, the Mandalorian's excellent. Andor's excellent. I think Yakla is good choice. It's cool. It is something different, by the way.

Speaker: I think that it's skeleton crew takes some interesting swings. I like it. I think Rise of Skywalker takes... Sorry, not Rise Skywalker. Terrible. The Last Jedi takes really big swings. And I think they pay off.

Speaker: For people who actually like movies. is the is is the yeah Is the Acolyte during the High Republic era? Or is it just a different era entirely? like ah That's correct, I believe. Let me make sure, though, because I don't want The Acolyte.

Speaker: Yeah, because the most interesting part about Jedi Survivor is all the stuff that they reference about the High Republic. Yeah. I'm like, oh, this is cool. is the cool stuff. um and like It's the final days of the High Republic.

Speaker: That's correct. that's That's so interesting. i don't know. Maybe I'll watch the Ackline. Honestly, I'm being serious. If you're going to watch one or the other Skeleton Crew or this, maybe maybe i won't i won't say that yet. I'm almost at the end of Skeleton Crew. I've got like two episodes left.

Speaker: Once I see the end, then I can maybe give you a good... Verdict, but unless you're got a hankering to go back to Star Wars again. But I think it's worth it to watch the Acolyte personally. But the the thing is not worth it about it is it's not continuing. that We know for sure it's not continuing. So yeah, it's like, what are you going to do about that? Nothing.

Speaker: It's over. yeah That movie movie, sorry, that TV show cost, it costed too much to make. That's the issue. It costed too much to make for the amount of viewership it got and the negative hype caused cause it to get less viewers. And so how is that worth it then to spend more money on another season?

Speaker: Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, that's it. So rest in peace. Rest in peace, the Acolyte? Yeah.

Speaker: Okay. Because Kathleen Kennedy is very much alive. She's still alive, as far as I'm aware. Thank goodness. All right. Cool. Yeah, good the good and the bad. The good and the bad. like It's a 50-50. And the other one.

Speaker: The good, the bad, and the ugly. Sure. All right. Last piece of news before we move on to what we've been watching. ah Just briefly here. We both... ah you Actually, you sent me this article. There was an Entertainment Weekly exclusive that was referencing that the Punisher... They're making a a Punisher Marvel special in the same vein as...

Speaker: What's the name of that TV show? Oh, my God. Gardens of the Galaxy Christmas special. Holiday special. The Wolf. Wolves by Night. Werewolf by Night. Werewolf by Night. That sounds wrong.

Speaker: We're failing here. but anyway, regardless of that, you look that up. Werewolf by Night. But the Punisher series. It was Werewolf by Night. It was. It was. Werewolf by Night. The Punisher series. Edit it. Edit it. We got it right the first time.

Speaker: No, I'm not doing that. but I got to get out of here. I gotta get i got to fight to catch. I have no time to edit it. But regardless of that, Jon Bernthal is starring in it from the original Punisher series on Netflix. And it's going to be, I guess, an hour and a half, just like the Werewolf by Night Marvel special. It's interesting because Jon Bernthal seems to have a pretty big part in the Daredevil show, Daredevil Born Again, which has just started airing.

Speaker: I'm curious if you watched that, but the reason put this here is because I thought you maybe did watch it, and we can go right into what you watched. But regardless of that, yeah, this is interesting. It's apparently being directed by the Rinaldo, by Rinaldo Marcus Green, who directed King Richard, which is quite cool. That was the Oscar-nominated flick. That's the Will Smith slapping...

Speaker: Yeah, the one he won for. Yeah, yeah. yeah He won immediately after sla slapping Chris Rock. What ah what an emotional rollercoaster that night was, that Oscars, regardless of that. um Good times. Yeah, crazy stuff.

Speaker: But we're yeah, that's really cool though. that's ah That's a pretty big name to direct a Marvel flick. And it's Jon Bernthal writing it, at least in half, in part. So that's pretty neat. Any thoughts on that?

Speaker: I know you sent it to me, so I'm assuming you do have some thoughts. Yeah, I don't know. i i like these kind of specials. i don't know. Werewolf by Night was really fun. the Guardians holiday special was really fun and it was quite heartfelt. um So like this... I'm curious. I doubt this is goingnna be fun considering...

Speaker: Did you ever watch Punisher season two? I didn't. Me neither. I only watched the first season and I really liked it. Maybe I'm going go back and binge the second season. Problem is I think by the time I wanted to, like I got around to it, they this they determined that they wouldn't make any more seasons on Netflix.

Speaker: yeah that disney was taking it away and then it wasn't going to happen on disney so i was like okay and then then now finally it's coming back to disney yeah so it's that's what kind of turned me off of it but the second season did look appealing it's also got like uh evan moss backrat back rat back rack in it this is so interesting because he's also in fantastic four so he plays two roles in the marvel cinematic universe now technically yeah right because he's the man in the chair basically for the punisher Yeah. Which is crazy because I didn't even recognize him because he's grown. I think he's got long hair and I didn't even remember that until I'm like, I know this guy from somewhere else.

Speaker: He's got a really good part in Andor as well. Yes. I think I saw him in Andor first and then I saw him in the bear after. And so i was like, oh, that's the guy from Andor. for From my perspective, anyway. For me, when I was watching Andor, I was like, oh, that's the guy from The Bear.

Speaker: Exactly. Yeah. He's great in The Bear. He's great in Andor. He's great. He's great in everything. He's really good. He is. He's great. I hope he's a good guy. Yeah. Is he?

Speaker: I hope so. Oh, you hope he's a good guy. Yeah. Sorry. I misheard you. I'm turn up my volume. um But yeah, okay. So yeah, it's exciting. We'll see what happens. We'll see what comes of this. But I guess we can move on to what we've watched.

Speaker: and Yeah, I'm very curious because again, like apparently he's going to have a big part and Daredevil Born Again, which I have watched, Simon, the first two episodes they've released. um Have you watched it yet?

Speaker: Sorry, are you saying that Eben Moss back rack is making No, no, no. Jon Bernthal. Punisher. I said the Punisher. That clear? because we just Yeah, sorry. That's on me. That's on me. That's on me. I haven't watched them, no. So I'm likely going to wait till the end.

Speaker: Oh, okay. I'm tired of this garbage. I hate week to week. I told you this. Fair enough. I'm not sure. I'm not completely sure. We'll see how it goes. But anyway, what do you think? um I thought it pretty good.

Speaker: I quite like it. I'm into it. It's pretty intense, pretty shocking the way they just kind of go right back into this universe. um It is very mature. It is very M rated or R rated.

Speaker: um So I'm, I'm quite enjoying it so far. I was kind of hoping that, that you did watch it. Cause again, and this isn't spoilers. It's, it's all in the trailer. So I'll, keep I'll keep things brief, but it's essentially this, this season is, you know,

Speaker: Daredevil is not daredebling about anymore. Like he's like, I don't i don't want to be a daredevil. And Wilson Fisk is like, I'm a good guy now and I'm running for mayor or and I'm going to be the mayor of this town. Right. And this is all shown in the trailer. And that's essentially the setup in the first episode is, you know, Wilson Fisk is back. He's like, I'm going to be the mayor of this town. And, um you know, Charlie Cox, um Matt Murdock.

Speaker: Oh, my God. forgot his name. He's like, I'm going to be a lawyer. if If you're going to be bad being mayor, I'm going to come after you. And then Wilson Fisk is like, well, I'm going after vigilantes. So if you're going to be vigilanting about, I'm going to get you, you son of a bitch.

Speaker: And they're like, OK, cool. We got an agreement. and But the weird part about the first episode is it's literally you know Wilson Fisk becoming the mayor. And that's that's the first episode of the show.

Speaker: But when I was watching it, I was kind of conf confused as to how many – how long does that take place? Because it's very unclear. In the show, it seems like Wilson Fisk comes back to New York, says that he wants to be mayor, and by the next day, he is the mayor of the town or within a couple of days.

Speaker: So it was a little unclear of how the pacing was. And that's like the one thing that stuck out to me in that first episode. So the timeline was weird. It was. It's kind of confusing.

Speaker: um and i don't know. Maybe I missed something. That's why I was hoping that you would watch it, and I was curious if you'd agree. um But ultimately, apart from that, it's really good. You know, they they bring in a lot of new characters. They all obviously have previous characters from from from the Netflix, you know, three season arc.

Speaker: And ah yeah, they're keeping up with the brutality. um The writing is is very good. The, you know, everything about it is fantastic. The fight choreography. So I'm really enjoying it. And I'm very curious to see where the show is going to go. There's lot of episodes.

Speaker: Yeah. And it's interesting. And it seems like it's, I don't know, it's it's it's ah it's interesting. I think it's not going to be as like action forward as as the previous seasons, but I think there still will be a lot.

Speaker: It's just kind of how it's set up. It's almost going to, I feel like this is not ah really a fair comparison um because I haven't watched it yet either. But like I know Joker 2 is apparently like a lot of it takes place in like a courtroom. And I think this is kind of what Daredevil Born Again is going to be. It's going to be like almost a courtroom drama, a lot of it.

Speaker: So why are you making that connection?

Speaker: yeah It's just the only thing that I can think of as a courtroom drama. And it's a super superhero thing. Quote, unquote. so shiva Oh, yeah, shit. weirdo Yeah, I forgot about that. What's wrong with you?

Speaker: Yeah, I guess She-Hulk would have been a better connection considering Daredevil's literally in it. The Joker movie is notoriously not good, apparently. I feel like it's not bad, actually. I bet you it's not as bad as people say. I want to watch it and kind of get a perspective. Yeah, watch it eventually.

Speaker: The trailers, for me, I was like, this looks awful. Like, when I was watching the trailers, I was like, this looks like ah it's going to be intolerable. Oh, okay. Interesting. um But I don't know. I do want to watch it. i thought I'm one of the people that think the first Joker movie is so severely overrated. Like, I enjoyed it. I thought it was pretty good. got nominated for Best Picture.

Speaker: was like, what? But yeah, like the way people talk about it is like, this is a masterpiece. I'm like, this movie is fine at best. i'm like But anyways. But I'm very curious to see where Daredevil will go. But there's ah there's an actor in Daredevil Born Again. I'm not sure if you're aware of this.

Speaker: and He plays the character White Tiger in the show. um And the actor actually just passed away like back in December of of cancer.

Speaker: So in the in the second episode where that actor shows up, they have like you know dedicated to that that actor's name. I feel bad for not knowing this. I should say it. The guy's literally fucking dead.

Speaker: um White Tiger. Tiger. Daredevil. born again okay it's um

Speaker: why thanks for coming prepared adrian yeah no worries man kamar de los reyes reyes okay yeah kamar de los reyes um and yeah he he's white tiger in the show and yeah he unfortunately passed away um back in december i think from cancer that's what i read online and so it's, it's, it's unfortunate. Like it's kind of sad. So I'm curious what they're going to do with this character in the show. Like if they're like, if he's going to be a major part in the entire first season, you know, setting something up for the second season, if they're going to recast them, whatever.

Speaker: um but yeah, that, that was a little bit unfortunate because I looked into this after the fact, but you know, so far I'm into it. I'm excited about where daredevil born again is going to go. um And yeah, I kind of wish you watched it so we could talk a little bit more about it. But you know ultimately, if you want to wait, man, it's up to you. that's you know It's up to you. whoa ill I feel pressured. Dude, I just can't do it. we tweak It's not good. I don't know. I just don't like it. i don't like it.

Speaker: we We have a new way. There's a new age. There's a new way to do it. Why are we doing it this way? like i just you we Launch the episodes in batches of three, maybe. Do three week. I do like that. That's okay, too. That works.

Speaker: One a week, that's for the first episode, though. That's for the first. I wonder if they are going to do two a week going forward. Because, like, it's, what, 18 episodes? That would be awesome, but I doubt that. They want to keep people in, man. Yeah. For 18 weeks?

Speaker: Yeah. They want people in. they This is probably one of their strategies. They're like, what what show can we really do a lot of episodes so we can people subscribed to Disney Plus as long as possible? It's shocking that Netflix has even kept kept this on, like...

Speaker: this this this straight up long enough with these like dropping all the episodes at once because it doesn't help your marketing you'd rather people keep coming back to your streaming service on a repeated basis i cancel come back to netflix constantly but then again i would just cancel and come back when the show the season wraps so yeah they effect i don't know i i am curious because i mean like the second season of andor is don't know like end of april or some shit like that i can't remember um But like you, you'd assume that you wouldn't want these two shows running concurrently.

Speaker: So, but maybe they do. I don't know. Who cares? I don't know. Yeah, i I will probably start watching it at like the eight episode mark maybe and then just start to like slowly catch up as I go because I have a few shows that usually have on the go at the same time.

Speaker: So I might do that. But if you really want me to, I can do it and I can watch it so you can talk about it. But then we then again, we're not doing spoilers anyway. So what's the difference? Yeah, fair enough. Just tell me about it. I want to hear about it. Let me know.

Speaker: um mean okay you can't We never can talk about it past the first episode anyway because it it it becomes like embroiled in spoilers as soon as you get past episode two. You know what I mean? hu For what we talk about. like We don't talk about Severance specifically. Severance has been amazing. The last episode was incredible. I can't barely talk about it. Holy moly.

Speaker: Yeah. I will say, though, like the director is the cinematographer for that last episode. And that episode was amazing. And the cinematography in it specifically amazing.

Speaker: Very crazy visual effects. Awesome. Very good. amazing Beautifully shot episode. Beautiful. Look at all the eyeballs. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Anything else you watched this week?

Speaker: ah Yeah, I have also watched. another movie, Simon. This, this bi-week. I'm so sorry. Yeah. This this bi-week. Cause we launched episodes every two weeks on Tuesdays, but yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. I've, um,

Speaker: Yes. Yeah. You know what? I'll talk about it. No, no, I had to pull up my list because i watched a few things the past couple weeks. But I have watched too many things. I'm going to pretty much just glance over the things I watched. OK, fair enough. So I'll kind of glance over the these these last three things until we get to our our joint review topic. But I watched Paddington in Peru with my fiance. You did. That's huge.

Speaker: Yeah. We had a nice little date night watching Paddington in Peru, the third Paddington movie. Thanks for the invite, by the way. Hey, man, it's a date night. Every once in a while, I just got to spend time with the fiance. I apologize.

Speaker: I apologize. It's fine. It's fine. Sorry. Next date night, I'm including you, buddy. No, no, I don't want to be on back. I'm sorry. that's okay I'll bring you on my back. I'll bring you in my pocket. It's okay. I just thought we had a connection with Paddington. That's all i'm saying.

Speaker: I mean, did we... I'm kidding. I'm just making you feel bad for no reason. Just tell me about Paddington. How could you make feel bad? Yeah, is it was great. love it. Was as as episode two of Paddington? Of Paddington two? um I don't know. Like, probably not. Like, Paddington 2 is just start to finish a masterpiece. Like, genuinely, like, adorable all throughout.

Speaker: Paddington and Brews but like tonally like very similar. It's so heartfelt. It's cute. It's funny. It's adorable. and They do a lot of interesting stuff with Paddington lore as well, which is kind of crazy.

Speaker: um Antonio Banderas is in it. a, as a, person that wants to find gold and he he's really fun and over the top and how him and Paddington and the family play off each other is really great.

Speaker: Olivia Coleman's in it. She has a musical number in it and oh it's like yeah, it's like 15 minutes into the movie and then yeah, maybe 10 and there's like a musical number with Olivia Coleman. And I was like, did they make this fucking movie a musical?

Speaker: Um, they did not. It's just the one musical number, but it's really good. um and and all that jazz. But the one thing I do want to point out that I think, yes I guess, I don't want to say bring brings this movie down because I honestly feel kind of bad about it, but they replaced um Sally Hawkins.

Speaker: Oh, no. Really? Yeah. she She's Mrs. Brown in the first two Paddington movies, and she's replaced by Emily Mortimer in Paddington in Peru. Really?

Speaker: Yeah. Oh, I'm surprised you didn't know this. No. Yeah. So she is replaced. but yeah So I think that is the one thing that kind of holds this movie back because Sally Hawkins in the first season,

Speaker: two Paddington movies is stellar. And she brings like this kind of gravitas to the screen. She's so endearing and, and the way she cares about Paddington is, is so wholesome and and wonderful.

Speaker: And I don't know why she didn't come back for the sequel. Maybe it's cause like she was in Wonka with, them you know, Paul King who directed the first two Paddington movies. That that's an assumption. i don't know that for a fact, but again, she's replaced by Emily Mortimer. And I feel like,

Speaker: I don't want to discredit Emily Mortimer as an actress. I'm sure she's fantastic in a lot of things. And she is really great in this movie. But... yeah ah it's tough because like what are to do? You're going come into this role and do something different.

Speaker: Or are you going to copy what Sally Hawkins did in the last two movies? But because she's copying that, it seems like ah almost like a cheap knockoff version. And again, I don't want to be disrespectful to her because she is great. And she still is like, it it doesn't ruin the movie and she plays off the family well, but it is a little jarring watching us. And I just feel like,

Speaker: um You know, her expressions look like what Sally Hawkins would do in those situations, but it's just not as believable. I don't really know how to how to put it. But again, she is still really great. And the movie is still fantastic. I don't i don't think like it ruins the movie by by any means. um But it was something to note.

Speaker: And that is a little disappointing. But again, all in all, Phenomenal movie. Love it. I love the Paddington movies. I think they're great for kids, great for adults. You want to have a good cry?

Speaker: Watch Paddington 2. But Paddington in Peru, you wouldn't have a good cry. No, I don't think so. like I got like a little teary-eyed, but Paddington 2, I sobbed.

Speaker: you know It's confusing. The director of Paddington in Peru is Dougal Wilson. But I don't know anything else this guy's made. Am I crazy?

Speaker: But he got his first movie is a 93% on Rotten Tomatoes for tomato meter and 91% popcorn meter and he just kind came out of nowhere. How can that be? i don't know.

Speaker: That's a strange one. It is. yeah I was just looking at the box office because I was curious how it did. some after As of March 4th, it grossed.

Speaker: $32.3 million dollars in the United States and Canada. Over $165 million dollars worldwide. That seems okay. Hmm. Yeah. I'm wondering if that's what I think they greenlit.

Speaker: Did we talk about it? They greenlit like a sequel already. And i think they're doing like a TV show as well. Can we talk about that? I don't know. I don't think we talked about the TV show. Okay.

Speaker: I don't think we talked about the s sequel actually. Interesting. Yeah. I think they are doing that. I could be wrong. Maybe this is a false memory, but I'm pretty sure. Why would I strange to me, you think if you're Sally Hawkins, you would definitely do this series. I find that weird, weird. Like maybe you're right. Maybe she went along with Paul King to the one. Maybe they're filming the Wonka movie with Timothy Chalamet at the same time as they were filming Paddington in Peru. And so therefore she chose one or the other.

Speaker: So weird though, like, I don't know. Like Paddington 2 is one of the best family movies of all time. Maybe. Yeah. According to movies of all time.

Speaker: According to Nicholas Cage in no, not Nicholas Cage. It was he pesca's character character in what is it? Unbearable weight of massive talent. Yes. In that movie, he says that Paddington 2 is the best movie of all time or something like that. Something ridiculous, yeah which I don't agree with, but it is a really great movie.

Speaker: not the greatest movie of all time, but it's up there. It's incredible, though. It's a really good movie. If you made a list of the 10 best movies, it would be on that list. And like you're a part of that series. The first movie, Paddington one was really well regarded, too. And then you make Wonka instead. And Wonka is not nearly as well regarded.

Speaker: It's just still, I don't know, a little bit strange. I find that a little weird. I feel like if you're Sally Hawkins, you really try to do both. Yeah. But hey, that's just me. I'm kind of shocked a little bit. That's just like if you're in like a series that's not doing that well, you're just not feeling it like you're not liking it.

Speaker: Like, I feel like, what's Terrence Howard. I don't think he was feeling playing, being an Iron Man. But that was a successful movie, but I'm not sure he knew the the breadth of how crazy the MCU would get after Iron Man.

Speaker: Iron Man did really well, and it is really great. But I think after that, i think if he had seen the Avengers, and he he might have been like, oh my God, what if i but have I done? I feel like if I was him, I would have done But Sally Hawkins was already in the best of the series. She was in the first one, which is fine. It's good.

Speaker: It's great. And second one, which is even better by a long shot. and Although the first one's great. the second one's excellent. Yeah. And so I don't know how you back. Oh, no, i don't want to be in the series anymore.

Speaker: They're not making the movies that often. they're not they're not pattington 2 came out in 2017 i think maybe 2018 like you're not robert downey jr in a million mcu movies you've just been in like two paddington movies it seems like you're not asked to do that much anyway don't know it's just in the shape of water oscar nominated best or oscar winning best picture shape of water 2019 i think she became too good for it yeah but then again pattington 2 came out after it didn't it no before That's what it is. She got an Oscar nominated and she's like, nah, I'm too good for this now. I'm too good for one of the best family movies of all time.

Speaker: One the best movies of all time. Right. Maybe the best family movie of all time. It is. I don't know. It's a strange one. Okay. Cool. Anything else you watched? Yeah, I mean, I watched The Gorge, which you mentioned two weeks ago that you and your fiancé watched. I watched it with my fiancé. It's fun. I really like it.

Speaker: ah You're right. It kind of goes in places where I didn't expect. Yeah, not predictable, really. it's It's really good. I really, really enjoyed it. It's kind of a bummer that it's not like critically received. There's some great greatly, but had a good time. Some plot convenience issues with it that I had with it, but otherwise it's good.

Speaker: I really like it. Yeah, it's a fun movie. And um last night, as of when we're recording, I watched the 1995 flick Clueless. Oh, yeah?

Speaker: Yeah. For the first i never watched it. um Nice. Starring. ah Oh, my God. Alicia. Oh, my God. alic Alicia Silverstone and Paul Rudd.

Speaker: um It's it's hilarious, dude. I really like this movie. A lot of these like kind of rom coms in the 90s just have like such a good vibe.

Speaker: It just feels so nostalgic. um Even though I i was one year old when this movie movie came out. um But it's it's really, really good. And it just follows Alicia Silverstone's character. She's in high school. She's kind of like this ditzy, rich girl.

Speaker: She's kind of close. A um that like finds like Brittany Murphy shows up to her school. and She's like, oh, I'm going to you know make this girl like kind of more popular and and stuff. and I don't know. it's It's a lot more slapstick than I expected. There's a lot of just like really good jokes.

Speaker: um They're not afraid to use the word retarded, um like which is always jarring when you watch like movies from back then. like there's literally I think she literally says, what am I, retarded or something? thing to someone like I'm not a retard.

Speaker: It's like, oh, geez, you you don't see that too often in movies these days. um But yeah, I really like it. It's 30 years old now. um Yeah. One thing to note, though, in that movie, yeah it opens my eyes in how like,

Speaker: This is maybe – this is too much. But like, you know the 2010s craze of like, oh, step bro, like step sis, you know, that fetish culture that just like kind of built up.

Speaker: The daddy culture that built up. All that, you know, kind of girls like baby talk, like that sort of fetish. I – yeah I watched this movie and I genuinely believe this was the start of all of those fetishes.

Speaker: Just like this, this precursor. It's the kindling. It's crazy. She says daddy so often, like this little like baby voice, the stout. sexual tension between Paul Rudd, who is technically her ex-stepbrother, and her is palpable.

Speaker: The way she talks, even like shots... I mean, I guess Quentin Tarantino has been doing this forever, but like the the foot, like feet shots with foot fetishes, it's crazy. I was watching this and I was like, I think I'm like...

Speaker: I'm watching history right now. I'm watching like the beginning of of of fetish culture in a lot of ways. And it was like mind boggling. I was like talking to my fiance. i was like, oh my God, like so much, so much of this is is just so prominent in in that. Like, you know, pornography industry and fetish culture is crazy. I'm sure people were into feet before.

Speaker: I know. yeah Because of Quentin Tarantino. Yeah. no but no no i i yeah but yeah like all that stuff i was like holy moly but yeah it's great movie highly recommended loved it cool i've watched bits and pieces of that movie like a maybe probably watched the whole thing but just on tv over the years and not not ever in like in actual order in chronological order i feel like but yeah interesting okay cool man cool man sweet

Speaker: So, I mean, I guess before we get into the movie we both watched, what have you watched, man? You tell me. I watched a lot of things. i don't want to talk about them all in too much detail. I'll go over them. pretty I'll try to skip through them. Let's let's time myself here. Okay.

Speaker: Firstly, I watched Challengers, which I watched in a hotel, which i think is perfect for that movie. Yeah. Perfect thing to It's great movie. tell Because it's connected to the hotel in in the movie a little bit. Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, killer soundtrack. Just killer. They just kill it with a score every time.

Speaker: Unbelievable. Laugh from the three leads. phenomenal just great and i love the cinematographer cinematography there's certain shot composition like there's this one scene in like a parking lot with like the wind and the lights are red that part really cool there's a lot really cool cinematography with the tennis as well they do like a first person hardcore henry type situation but the hardcore henry is the ball uh i guess yeah a weird very weird way to describe that it really shot well look at guadagnino good job bro 10 out of 10. That's good. That movie's really good Yeah. Quick step back. um One thing that I don't know if you mentioned it, but The Gorge.

Speaker: When I was sitting, I was like, this has a really great score as well. I was like, i want to. Yeah. Halfway through the movie, I was like, is this Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross? And when the credits start. Yeah. It started going. And I was like, oh my God, it is.

Speaker: but I do that all the time with them. i have, I have a pretty good year for that. Cause I just been doing that for a long time. I have a, I have like a very strong affinity for really good scores and really great composers. So that's something that I I've been noticing, especially it's Michael Giacchino if it's Hans Zimmer, especially as well, or John Williams is an obvious, I feel like he's got the best scores.

Speaker: Essentially. If you like take them all together and look at them, it's like, wow, these, some of these scores are incredible, but Resner Ross, like more and more. So you can, they have a very distinct style and they're great. And I love it.

Speaker: Again, cannot believe that they got them for the intergalactic, the heretic profit video game. I'm so excited for that aspect. It's so neat. But yeah, it's cool.

Speaker: Yeah. It's really good. A good, good movie. Challengers. s snaper Barely. yeah I was going say barely nominated for any Oscars. Very interesting. I wonder, I wonder what happened anyway.

Speaker: I also watched Alien Romulus. I watched that yesterday. Also excellent. Yeah. Very good. And maybe my favorite alien movie.

Speaker: I'm not sure. I think Alien 1 from 1979 still wins. I don't love aliens that much. I i may have told you this in person. Yeah. and say On the podcast. That's a controversial take. I know people love aliens. They think it's the greatest one.

Speaker: In some way, I don't i don't really agree. I really love aliens, but I think Alien 1 is better. And i I do agree with you that i I still like Alien the most, but I think Alien Romulus is is up there.

Speaker: It's very close. It's excellent, and it takes some... Interesting twists and turns, and it makes some plot choices. I thought it was going to be a more of a rehash of a Alien from 1979, like Ridley Scott's Alien, in a lot of ways. But it really didn't just rehash. It really took the ideas from Alien and then just really amplified various things. And then they took ideas from Aliens, which is cool as well. and They took various things, and then they did original things. And took from Prometheus as well. I was going to say that that's another big thing, which I was really impressed with.

Speaker: I thought David Johnson in that movie is like – unbelievable. He's so good as the synthetic human. I thought yeah he's just so good. There was like moments I'm like, wow, this guy killed it. I thought Michael Fassbender in Prometheus also amazing in that role.

Speaker: One favorite things in Prometheus actually is that he's watching Lawrence of Arabia. I just think that that's so cool. And then he's like mirrored off of it's Sony. I love that. Anyway, regardless of that, Romulus is excellent. Kaylee Spreeny is great too.

Speaker: yeah And i think the entire cast of that movie is, is great. And cool bit of knowledge about that is um the director. um Oh my God. Why but did I forget his name? Director of the movie.

Speaker: It's – oh, man. Now I've forgotten it. Alvarez. Oh, Fede Alvarez. Yeah. So he specifically talked about how the one character, Isabella Marced's character, Kay, in that movie – was specifically inspired by a character from the last of us part two Dina.

Speaker: No way. Yeah. He's a big fan of the video games and he really made that character based off Dina from last of us part two cast Isabella Marced in it. And then she was then cast as Dina in the last of us part, like the last of us season two coincidentally, or did they connect in some way coincidental guys? Yeah.

Speaker: Completely? Completely. There's no casting director that's related? There's nobody related to Fede Alvarez to actually make that happen? From his explanation? No. Yeah, from his explanation, he just said that it was like a full circle moment for him.

Speaker: Wow, that's super cool. Yeah. That's really Because he is a big fan of video games. And again, I know you don't really love horror games, but yeah Alien Isolation, the video game, he took a lot of inspiration from that video game and brought it to this this movie.

Speaker: I highly, highly, highly recommend that game. Phenomenal. So good. Sweet. Not to me, but thank you. But also, on a technical standpoint, this movie killed it.

Speaker: Even the titling was like 1979 Alien. There's like the the cinematography. They did like filter a filter effect over the the way it's shot. like the The way it was just shot in general is like an homage to the various ways that The 1979 alien was shot. The way that technology works, similar to 1979 alien.

Speaker: Whereas in Prometheus, don't know what they're doing with the technology. It's very confusing. I know there's explanations there. I don't really want to get into that. I think it's silly. But um yeah, I love it. I love it in the practical effects in terms of the alien and the way that they shot it in a way that practical effects would have to be shot to actually do them realistically and not make you feel like...

Speaker: Actually, great example of this, Wolfman, actually. The way that they shoot the Wolfman kind of takes the steam out of that movie a little bit. In this, they don't shoot the animatronics ever so specifically so that it takes the steam out of it. And that's part of it because it becomes too hokey. If you shoot the villain, like the the horror mascot of whatever you're doing, and you shoot it very specifically, and then it's you see it holistically,

Speaker: It suddenly takes the steam out of it. I feel like that is a thing. And the way it's shot is so wise. And it's the same way Ridley Scott, I feel like, shot it in in the 1979 Alien. So, yeah, i really cool.

Speaker: Really cool. i was I was surprised at how good it was. I shouldn't have been that surprised. You said it was really good for many manym moons. And lastly, the best thing I watched this week, um this bi-week, by far,

Speaker: is Conclave. Conclave is excellent. It is really good. it's ah It's Edward Burger from, we watched together actually. From Bob's Burgers.

Speaker: Yeah. No, you actually know? No. Really? Not off the top of my head. So Edward Berger, he directed um All Quiet on the Western Front, which we saw together in the Waterloo Princess Twin ah cinemas.

Speaker: And he got nominated last year as well. And then he got nominated this year for Conclave in terms of the Oscars specifically. And this this this movie is a technical marvel. The score in this is actually is really excellent as well.

Speaker: ah That I'll say too. I'm trying to look up the name of the composer. I thought the score might win for best score. as well. I'm trying to find the name of the composer and I'm missing it. I don't see him.

Speaker: But he won't Is it on Amazon Prime? Is it on Amazon Prime? Conclave I watched. It was on something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It must have been Amazon Prime. But it's excellent. It's a technical marvel. I thought it was excellent. The the score is really good. Ralph Fiennes is so good. He's so good.

Speaker: The ensemble cast in general, they they all blend into their characters. they're like yeah they nobody's like ah They all just seem like their characters. like Stanley Tucci's in it. He's great. um as well. And I think the the the direction is like very clearly like realized. I think the cinematography is amazing. The production design, the costume design. There's some shots. There's this one shot where all these cardinals are walking through and it's raining out and they're all wearing wearing these like the the traditional garb and they're wearing, like they have the umbrellas. It's crazy though to think that I don't know if you ever had this as a kid. Did you go to Catholic school?

Speaker: I did, yeah. Okay, cool. Whenever they had to choose a pope though, and like at least when I was in school, at one point they had the we had that like you know the rolling TV with the VCR and all that.

Speaker: Yeah. So we had at one point they were choosing, I think it was after John Paul II passed away and they they had to choose a Pope. And so they they showed us the, they they showed us like the, there was just a shot, I think of the Vatican and it was just showing like the, whether the smoke was coming up or whatever.

Speaker: And it it was cool because we were just, I think it was just on 24 seven for a few days just to see if it would but would have been cho like who they chose as the next Pope. And I always wonder, like, what's going on in there? And it's just as like it this idea, like, what kind of drama is going on in there? Like, how much ambition can these guys even have? Because, of course, they they're holy. They're men of God.

Speaker: Holy men of God. And how can they really have that much ambition to try to get this mass massive role in their lives? and they society, I suppose. So I thought it was so interesting, like what kind of drama goes on in there. And it's just, there's this so, ah there's this really cool political drama.

Speaker: It's really, really fun. It's really cool. And there's a lot of things that goes, go on in this movie. And it's, it's what you would expect if you were to expect a pretty exciting, movie to exist if if you want it to be exciting and not just be boring and yeah and then and just a bunch of priests huddling together and saying, oh, I choose you.

Speaker: It's not really that. There's a lot of like... I choose you, Pikachu. Yeah, and there's also John Lithgow. John Lithgow's excellence as well in it. There's so many good acting, like good actors in this and it it is really well shot. I really recommend this movie. It's it's intriguing. It's very interesting.

Speaker: I was really happy to watch this one. This was my favorite movie of the week, but we also watched The Monkey, you and I, in theaters. We watched the monkey. Yeah. And we watched it together. I'll throw it to you because i've been talking way too long.

Speaker: So. No, man. yeah Honestly, i i don't think you've been talking for too long. I love listening to you chat with me. Oh, I love listening to you, buddy. That's nice. Yeah, no worries. A little bit condescending a little bit. No, brother.

Speaker: Yeah, i feel like Buddy can come off as condescending. I love listening to you, brother. You're like, it's okay, little Buddy. Yeah, I love listening to you. I just love it. Yeah, so we watched the Osgood Perkins directed movie based on the Stephen King short story called The Monkey. Yes. um Not to be confused with that Robbie Williams monkey movie called...

Speaker: It wasn't called The Monkey. but No. That much I know. Because we watched. What was that called? Showtime with Robbie Williams or something like that? No, it's not. Imagine. Robbie Williams movie. I'm looking that up right now. Better Man.

Speaker: Better Man. Better Monkey. And. Yeah, again, oz ah o i was good Oz Perkins directed this flick, and I really enjoyed it. I think it's ah it's a fun time.

Speaker: It's very hyper-violent, and it's interesting because this movie, although it's like an hour and a half, it feels like a short story, weirdly enough. I feel like it translates quite well to a feature length, but the way it's told and the way it's – presented to us as the viewer it felt very short story-esque and i don't mean that as as like a derogatory thing i think it keeps the pace brisk and consistent um and it gives you just enough time with each of these characters to kind of be a little bit more developed um however i don't know but i think i watched the first trailer

Speaker: I had no idea about, you know, the short story. And this movie like went places where I did not expect it to go whatsoever. um I honestly don't know if one of the main things about who Theo James plays is in the trailers.

Speaker: um So it kind of caught me off guard or even kind of this movie kind of takes place in two separate times. There's, you know, like,

Speaker: you know, a a setting that takes place, you know, back in the the mid nineties and then kind of almost present day. um And I don't know why I just didn't pick that up when I watched those trailers. Maybe I'm stupid. Maybe I just kind of forgot about it. Cause I think I just watched the the trailer, the the one or two times.

Speaker: Um, But yeah, this movie is incredibly hyper-violent. You know, it's about this monkey. It's a toy. um You know, life like or like life. And this monkey, whenever it plays on its drums, someone will die an incredibly violent death.

Speaker: um And presumably the person that turns the monkey's key in the back is not... you know, one to die. So, you know, a lot of crazy stuff happens when, you know, Theo James's character, i think it's Hal is like a kid, um you know, people die and they're like, and he's like, I got to put this monkey away and and hope it never comes back. And he, you know, grows up to be kind of like a recluse. He has a he has a son, but he's kind of, you know, not really connected to his son or his wife. And then his wife's married to um Elijah Wood's character, ah guy named, I think it's like Ted Hammerman or something, then which is,

Speaker: I think so, because he has like a bunch of books and stuff, and it's about books about being a father. And it it adds like a lot of comedy. And I really want to stress that this movie is it's, ah you know, a horror comedy, but it is far more comedy than horror.

Speaker: It's really just horror in the sense of very over the top violent and grotesque. There's some brutal deaths in it. um But ultimately, I think it is a comedy first and and a horror movie second.

Speaker: um but yeah i quite enjoyed less and less scared and you keep like you're like gatekeeping this horror uh horror genre a little bit a little bit i'm getting that vibe from you me little bit yeah because like it's a horror it's okay i know what you mean you don't get scared as much anymore good for you right yeah maybe maybe you know i'm just cool like that much too but i think still think it's a horror it's like saying get out isn't a horror it is its That's more of a psychological thriller, Simon. Oh, my God. not Yeah.

Speaker: But, yeah, I don't know. I'm curious because you're not a horror guy. You're not really – I mean, I guess – mean, you just talked about You watched Alien Romulus and Alien. You liked those movies. Those are horror. Alien is still terrifying. Not horror at all.

Speaker: um So what did you think of the monkey? He didn't even respond. but What did you say? You're not fan of horror at all? What did you say? No, that's not what I said. No, say. What did you say? No. I said I'm not a whore at all.

Speaker: Oh, you're not a whore at all. That's stupid. Don't fake laugh at my expense. Anyway, I think it's a good blend of comedy and horror. I thought it was cool. I thought that the way that each character potentially would, like if if a character might die in a scene, the the way that they showed it in the anticipation was the jump scare. like you I was always on edge because it's very violent and like what might happen to them could be like very gruesome and like very shocking very quick.

Speaker: And they did a very, he he shot it so well that he shot it in a way that you kind of feel this tension build up because you know that as soon as the monkey's hitting the drums, you know that at the end of it, somebody's going to perish.

Speaker: So it's kind of, that was really neat. And the gruesomeness of it, because you knew it was going to be gruesome each time. There's a little bit of like, I'm not that acclimatized to that situation. It's gross. It's like it. I don't want to see someone die violently necessarily, but the fact that you know it's going to happen, like if you're watching a show like The Boys, The Boys is very gruesome, but those things happen and there's no buildup because you don't know that someone's going to get destroyed by Homelander before he destroys them. You know what i mean? Like Homelander, the the villain of the the show like kills people all the time gruesomely, but you don't really... There's no anticipation for it.

Speaker: You kind of just... You see it and you're like, ah, you killed somebody again. But in this, you know it's going to come and you're not sure when it will happen. And when it does happen, you're like, oh That's again, ah, someone's got their head shot chopped off with a ah clothesline and or something like that. You know what I'm saying? so it's it's cool. I like that idea. was neat.

Speaker: I feel like it got a little, I don't feel like it did as well at the, like the three quarter mark. I feel like it's, it lost its luster and it's like steam a little bit for me. That was a problem. And I feel like it just, at a certain point it was like, right,

Speaker: Like, go it felt like the plot was not progressing. It felt like this ending maybe it it wasn't satisfying as it was to begin. I think the beginning interest was really solid. And when it got to the halfway mark, I was like, this is pretty solid. And then it started to get like, all right, sos it's getting a little bit long in the tooth. I don't know why the ideas felt a little bit less fresh as it went on.

Speaker: Interesting. But it was good. I liked it. I liked it a lot. My favorite thing about it by far, though, by far, was the prop design was so on point. Like, it's like crazy. The monkey itself, I'm talking about.

Speaker: The monkey toy is so specific. And you can tell where they put the screws in and they actually built that thing. I swear to God, that thing works. and Somebody has that somewhere in their house and it works perfectly.

Speaker: And you the the amount of detail, the the shots on that and various angles of it, you know that that prop works for sure. And that really... Rooted me into or made me feel rooted as an audience member into the story. It made me feel, feel more immersed.

Speaker: like I believe that that prop existed. That's like a, that prop team kudos to them. Cause I thought that that thing looked awesome and it worked awesome. It looked amazing. It is really cool. But yeah, the comedy aspects of it, I really liked too. i don't know that you're right. It is. It's a comedy for sure, but it's, it's a very gruesome, dark comedy.

Speaker: Yeah. It's cool. like I like, I was laughing more than I was going like, ah you know Right, but I don't think you go out anymore. I think it's it's like if somebody like eats constant sriracha and they they just start eating hot pepper juice all the time, you know as they call it, hot pepper juice.

Speaker: If you're just eating like you know really, really hot peppers constantly, you eventually get become used to it. You acclimatize your brain for it and then never – what I mean?

Speaker: I feel like that's you little bit. I guess so. I still get terrified though. and like I still get terrified constantly. like when i play like that That's the reason I like playing you know horror games or watching horror movies, because it makes me feel a certain way.

Speaker: right It makes me feel scared. and like Typically, i I want to feel scared in a safe place where I know nothing bad is actually going to happen. I don't want to be scared in real life. So it kind of like, i don't know, it, you know, lets the, but lets say the juices start flowing and I feel excited.

Speaker: um So, yeah I mean, definitely like, I think like there was a time where I feel like I could not watch a horror movie and could not handle it. But once you get over that initial edge, you know, you break through, ah you can find a lot of enjoyment being scared.

Speaker: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. But like, I, like, I don't think this movie scary. Like I genuinely do not think this movie is scary whatsoever. i'm not I'm not trying to be all hoity-toity elitist.

Speaker: But like i I genuinely don't think this movie is scary. It is gruesome. It's violent. It's you know it's it's surprising. But I don't think there's any like, oh my goodness, this is terrifying sort of thing.

Speaker: It's not like hereditary. or It's interesting. Osgood Perkins is in the movie. I'm like, i've I've seen this guy. so I've seen him in an interview. and And I'm like, oh, I know Osgood. I saw the actor in the movie.

Speaker: And I'm like, oh, this guy. I know him from somewhere. And I saw him in an inner interview talking about the movie. I'm like, I know I know this, but that's not the only place I saw him. I think I saw him a long time ago.

Speaker: Not that long ago, though. And nope, he's also a nope. I just didn't know that. I just I've only seen him as an actor. was good. Perkins. I've never I never realized i never put the two and two together. I never connected him as being a director um as well. but But yeah, I don't remember him in. Nope.

Speaker: Nope is the the alien movie or Jordan Peele alien movie. Isn't that a spoiler? No, it's literally in the trailer. It's the alien. Okay.

Speaker: I thought that was the whole the the whole marketing thing, was that it's like, oh my God, there's an alien. I mean, nope is an acronym for not of planet Earth, so I guess. Oh my goodness.

Speaker: I actually didn't know that. You just learned me something. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. Maybe it's not a spoiler. I can't remember now what's in the trailer. Oh, you're right. No, the second trailer, there's definitely a distinct... i'm just I'm just super cautious about this. I don't know what was in the trailer. You're right, you're right. and I think it's in the second trailer.

Speaker: But there's no spoilers. Otherwise, I'd have taken this out and it would have bleeped it or something. You would have been That's right. Okay, buddy. I think that's it for the monkey. Cool. think I mean, do you want to put a rating on this so we can add it to our Rotten Potatoes um website?

Speaker: RottenPotatoes.com? Yes, let's do it. RottenPotatoes.org, sorry. That's our website. You can We don't have website. can right now. It's there. Yeah, don't go there just in case there's something bad there. We have no idea what's on that website. We've never typed that into the yeah URL bar.

Speaker: Anyway, what's your rating there, bud? I would give this movie a salt 3.5. Oh, that's exactly what I'm giving it. That's weird. honest I thought we were in a different standing on this.

Speaker: but yeah Oh, no, no. I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun. um But yeah, like it's it's not perfect. ah you know I think it's a solid 3.5. It's definitely the worst thing I watched this week in terms of movies by by a bit of a margin, I think.

Speaker: I think for me too, actually. I think the next... yeah Yeah. No, definitely the best thing I watched this week was Conclave. I think that that's the new brander. Which also didn't get very much in terms of love from the Oscars. They got lots of nominations. They just didn't win a lot.

Speaker: Yeah, I don't know what my the my favorite movie of this past bi-week has been. maybe I was just trying to catch up on a lot of things. and <unk> Yeah, that's good.

Speaker: Yeah, okay. Cool, man. 3.5. 3.5. That makes it a 7. 7 out of 10 on the the potato meter. That's 100%. It's 100% on Rotten Potatoes. we Again, we're not really doing that. We're just saying 7 potatoes. RottenPotatoes.org.com.

Speaker: Dot com, yeah. Forward slash. The more ridiculous you make it, the more likely we'll be what to get the domain. But I'll rely on you for that. Okay. Sounds good. All right, buddy. It's time now.

Speaker: To move on to the montage, a sequence of our show in which I briefly present seven of the bi-weeks smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict. Okay. Number one. As announced in Disney's recently released trailer, Star Wars Andor Season 2 officially begins on April 22nd.

Speaker: Its Disney Plus final season will feature 12 episodes. Wow, I can't wait. Wahoo. Number two, as reported by Variety, Captain America Brave New World earned over $100 million dollars domestically for its opening weekend, but declined a full 68% in viewership for its second weekend, with a relatively meager $28 million dollars in box office sales for weekend number two.

Speaker: Disappointing, just like my feeling. of this movie. Number three. As reported by publication Variety, the bear actor Ayo Adebiri is set to write and star in the Barney movie from Studio A24, actor Daniel Kaluuya's production company 59%, and Barney rights holder Mattel.

Speaker: I'm curious. Color me curious on this one. Number four, as revealed in a recent trailer, Challenger's actor Zendaya has been cast as Shrek's daughter in Shrek 5. I and don't really care about this. like I don't care that she's been cast. I just don't really give a fuck about this.

Speaker: but I'll watch it. Number five, as reported by Deadline, Scream actor Matthew Lillard has been cast in Marvel's Daredevil Born Again Season 2 on Disney+. plus Oh my goodness, I wonder if it's going to be the same character, Stu.

Speaker: Will they connect the two universes? I doubt that. Number six. According to Deadline, an upcoming HBO comedy series starring Steve Carell has just cast Legion actor Lauren Tsai to play Carell's character's daughter.

Speaker: The half-hour comedy is set on a college campus and is produced and written by Ted Lasso and shrinking producer Bill Lawrence. Oh, I'm in. Number 7 As Variety has confirmed, The Office star Oscar Nunez will reprise his role in an upcoming The Office follow-up TV series from The Office co-creator Greg Daniels.

Speaker: The new series, potentially called The Paper, will reportedly be about the same Dunder Mifflin documentary filmmakers filming a documentary about a dying newspaper office.

Speaker: I guess we'll see where this goes. Hopefully it's good. And that concludes Montage.

Speaker: Interesting. I just realized something. What? I didn't use this story, but there was something about Scream. Oh, yeah. I didn't use this. ah I don't know why I didn't. I think I just accidentally maybe wrote a second one for the montage.

Speaker: it's just It's another story that was interesting, I thought. they they They hired um the guy who plays Dewey, Arquette, in the new Scream movie.

Speaker: David Arquette's in the new Scream movie. Oh, no, don't spoil anything, but that's we weird. Oh, apparently Matthew Lillard's in that too. Yeah, yeah, that much I know.

Speaker: Okay. Yeah, it's very strange. I don't know what that means.

Speaker: I don't know. We'll see. I'm curious. Maybe that's why I didn't put it in because it's bit... want to get too spoilery, but it's weird. It's strange stuff. But okay, man. It's now time to get on to the topic of the show for episode 105, a topic which concerns the Conan O'Brien hosted 97th Academy Awards ceremony.

Speaker: According to Nielsen Ratings, the Oscars this year were watched by around 19.7 million people which is about 1% increase in viewership over the year before.

Speaker: Interestingly, I would have expected it would have been even more than, than 1% just because I feel like Conan O'Brien has such gravitas. Like his, um I don't know. you You know that show where they eat hot wings, hot ones, hot wings ones.

Speaker: Yes. um I think like Conan O'Brien's episode on hot wings, like broke records. Like it was one of the, he's wacky in that though, because it was clipped to hell, man. That's why. Yeah, I watched that episode. It's good.

Speaker: Like you don't go back and watch the Oscars. You can go back and watch that Hot Ones episode many times because it's a live show, right? Yeah. I think that's the reason. But I will say – so before we get into – so what I've done here – and I'm not going into like a giant spiel this time for the for the topic of the show. It varies.

Speaker: So what we're doing, essentially, we've we've we've done the Oscars ballot in secret before the Oscars aired. So the Oscars ballot is we chose the winners we predict would win in each of the categories, and we're going to present them. Before we present them, though, I did want to talk a little bit about, um did you watch the Oscars, actually, before we get into it?

Speaker: I did, yes. I watched Okay, cool. I just wanted to talk a little bit about what I thought of the Oscars as a ceremony before we get into the winners, perhaps. um And that you can throw your hat in the ring and talk about what you thought about it as well. But you watched it post the Oscars. You didn't watch it live, correct?

Speaker: Correct, yeah. I was doing stuff. So my fiancée has, like, her her mom has, like, had the bell box or whatever. So she recorded it, and then we were just able to watch the recording. Bell, a major telecom carrier in Canada.

Speaker: They're annoying. Name based on Alexander Graham Bell, the inventor of the telephone.

Speaker: Is that true? Yeah. I was doing my best ah Nick Offerman impression because Nick Offerman was one of my favorite parts of the Oscars. That's a segue right there, folks. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: But no, Nick Offerman was the announcer for all of the anyone who won. he He threw in like the little tidbits about, oh, this person's won multiple awards or got nominated multiple times. I thought Nick Offerman was amazing because he also he played off of Conan at some points.

Speaker: And he also called Amy Poehler, Amy Poehler. Yeah, which I which i really liked. Yeah, that that was funny just because they they they were co-stars in Parks and Recreation, obviously.

Speaker: Yeah, weren't they also co-stars in like some kind of like carpentry show? Yeah, he he did. i think, like I don't know, maybe like a couple seasons where he was just doing woodworking and then she would she was there.

Speaker: I really like Nick Offerman. I think he's great. I think he elevates everything he's in. and That's my hot take here. don't know how hot of a take it is because I'm sure you agree. like agree I do agree.

Speaker: He's great. He's great in Fargo. I think he's great in that. in In season two, I believe it is that he's in. I think he's obviously amazing in The Last of Us. I think he's the best part of Parks and Recreation think overall, although that show is good in general, but he's also like one of the best parts of it.

Speaker: um I think he's great in Civil War. I think, I don't know. I feel like it's, whatever is he in, just name a thing. I think he's great. it scott It's great. Oh, show I never watched that I definitely intend to watch.

Speaker: Devs. Correct. I've been meaning to watch that forever, dude. That's Alex Garland as well. Like, I don't know why I haven't watched it. I know. I know. ands It's on Disney here.

Speaker: I know. Yeah, I will do it eventually. Yeah. But yeah, it's cool. But yeah, his announcements were Any, anything from you? Let's go back and forth. Anything you you stood out to you in this show?

Speaker: Yeah, no, no, I agree. Like Nick Offerman was great. I love his narration. He doesn't do it every year, right? Like i was, I was sitting there. Oh no. Yeah. Okay. Like it's a different announcer. No, I think Conan probably had something to do with him even doing it.

Speaker: Okay. Awesome. I think he's ever done it before. Oh, OK, because yeah yeah just has such a good voice. He just has. Well, noticed it right away. Like I don't he doesn't do this kind of gig in general. He doesn't do like voiceover announcement work just generally. I don't think I think this is God and because it would be funny because I think Offerman was on Conan show quite a bit and I think they just have a good relationship. So that's what I got from it. That's what I thought. They love each other.

Speaker: Sure. Maybe. Yeah, I do. Yeah, like I think Conan was a fantastic host. I really like him him as as a person. He's enjoyable to watch and listen to.

Speaker: um had a lot of really good jokes sprinkled throughout. I saw a couple of clips online and I don't know if it was like blocked out in the bell recording or whatever. Cause I saw the the clip online where it's, he's like, it's the halftime show or it's like, oh we're about halfway through the Oscars. Now it's about time for Kendrick Lamar to come out and call Drake a pedophile.

Speaker: No, that wasn't it. i I didn't see it when I was watching the recording. I don't know. Maybe they cut it out. Like it's halfway. Yeah. I don't know. ah But yeah, I watched through it i was like, cause I, I saw that clip before I watched the Oscars and was like, Oh, and then I didn't notice it when I watched the full thing. Maybe, maybe my eyes glazed over when it happened, but that was interesting.

Speaker: But um yeah, you had a lot of really good jokes. um The one like specific one that I really, really liked that I think was just so stupid was the, it's like in the UK, they're known as guamateur. Yes, have that one.

Speaker: Yeah. And kilometer. Yeah. that He calls it miles teller and Miley Cyrus. Yeah. I thought that joke. They're known as kilometers and kilometer. Miles teller and Miley Cyrus. And then his face.

Speaker: yeah He's just, he's, his face is just like, that's the stupidest joke I've ever told in my life. yeah That's what's great about Conan though. He's like, he's very self deprecating in like the greatest ways. So I don't know. It's awesome.

Speaker: Yeah, that was great. It's funny that you pointed that out. I literally have that here as joke of the night colon in Europe. They're known kilometers. I'm like, wow. And I told yeah i that came up again.

Speaker: i thought about it. I'm like, what were the craziest jokes? What were the funniest jokes he's told? And i was like, that one ridiculous. They're also the one about Estonia. thought that was really funny. Because he called back to it after he got back on stage again. But I told ah my fiance, Dawn, this. I was like, this will actually, I think my favorite joke is actually the in Europe you're known as kilometers and kilometry, Miles Teller and Miles myy Cyrus. And she's like, yeah, that's fine.

Speaker: I'm like, no, it's great. It's so stupid. And when you look at the look of his face, that's that's what really ties it all together, is chef's kiss. I love that. Yeah. and I love that. I was worried were going to say that because it's my main note here. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. i' No, I like it. I like that we had the same idea.

Speaker: That's so stupid. but Okay. Yeah, in terms of like how it entered, his his enter entrance into freaking from the substance is so unbelievable.

Speaker: It's so good. And his face was just so awesome. That part's so good too. I thought that the dance number is like – But it was stuck in my head a little bit. What was it now? it was like, it's not stuck in my head, clearly, because then would have remembered it. But it was like, I'm not going to waste your time or whatever. i'm not going to waste it. I can't that.

Speaker: i I watched the dance number again, and it was stuck in my head a little bit afterwards. and I was like, it's just so ridiculous. His face is so good. And the the statues of him and the gold statues of of Conan, like as an Oscar, I thought were really good too.

Speaker: But yeah, um I will say one thing, though. I think the show was largely worse than last year in terms of on a production level and the pacing. I think the pacing is actually worse.

Speaker: I don't think it's Conan's fault at all. I think I would have taken more Conan and less of the musical numbers. I don't think the musical numbers did it for me. I feel like it was really weird. You had like... Somebody singing a song from like ah an iconic movie in Skyfall, but it wasn't Adele.

Speaker: You had Ray. Who the heck is Ray? But that happened throughout. theyre like The best secret musical number is probably the Wicked musical number, I think. And then everything else got worse from there. like If you think about last year, there was some like the Billie Eilish number was really good from Barbie. And then you also had...

Speaker: and we ah like I'm just Ken. And I think that like that was one of the best musical numbers in Oscar history. I think it just was really done well. I just think that the pacing, there's a lot of these numbers that really slow down the pace pretty badly. And I don't think they pulled people out of the... And we're going to talk about that, I'm sure, later. But don't think they pulled them out of their speeches enough. like And they pulled people out of their speeches too early in some cases that didn't deserve it. And I think there was one particular person that shouldn't have spoken that long.

Speaker: and I get that it was a big award, but still it's ridiculous. And so that's kind of the thing. I felt like the pacing was worse. And I don't think that the, I think if you're going to carve out time for a musical number, it really has to hit hard.

Speaker: They do have to go in and you have to hit it hard. And I feel like Conan wasn't on stage enough for his bits. Oh, also the Adam Sandler bit was ridiculous. I like that one too. and Yeah. The production design bit with Ben Stiller.

Speaker: When he's reading that, that's so have here, best presenter, literally best presenter by far, Ben Stiller. That's amazing, but that's not what I'm talking about. Any of the presenters, that was fine. I'm more talking about like the the spots that stopped the show.

Speaker: That's my issue with it. No, any of the presenters, they always move pretty fast and rapidly, but Ben Stiller is just killing it every time he hit. Anytime Ben Stiller does any bit at the Oscars, I feel like it just does well, I find.

Speaker: like The last one I remember like distinctly was the Avatar one. He comes out with makeup on. You remember that one? Not off the top head, no. Full makeup. Like he's fully an a avatar person, whatever those people are called.

Speaker: I think it was way back. but I think he was on stage for other ones after that. But I think that Ben Stiller was by far the, that was the best presenter. And the fact that he has to climb up on stage, it's excellent. it It's just, it was excellent in every capacity.

Speaker: But, but yeah, another weird thing before we get into the awards, um the Hulu, Hulu ended the Oscars live stream before the final three awards. It was on Hulu in the United States. I just wanted to bring this up.

Speaker: We don't get that in Canada. I again found it very difficult to watch the Oscars. I must reiterate this a million times. Please just put it on a streaming service in Canada.

Speaker: I do not need cable. Why do I need cable? You have cable for some reason. Adrian, I don't know what happened to you. I don't. So it's my fiance's mom has cable. Right. And because we have the fire stick, we can log in to her bell account and watch recordings.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah. Okay. No, cool though. Yeah, you're right. want to have cable. Look, it's okay to have cable. Look, it's okay to have cable. not actually rousing on anyone that has cable. not criticizing you if you have cable. My problem is i don't have cable. I never intend to get cable.

Speaker: They need to give me an option to watch the Oscars. I have one option to watch the Oscars and it was an illegal stream. I don't want to get it illegally. Let me pay $15, $20. I will pay for it. Stop doing this.

Speaker: It's also Bell owns Crave. Just put it on Crave TV. It is not that complicated. So Bell owns the the rights specifically in Canada for the Oscars. Every year it seems like CTV has them.

Speaker: You can't get CTV unless you have a cable subscription of some sort. If I had Rogers, I'd be able to log in. Rogers is another telecom carrier here. Anyway, it's just very frustrating. I found that very annoying. And then I also found it ridiculous that Hulu cut the stream off before the three top awards.

Speaker: And there was no way for anyone to watch it at that point. For those who had Hulu in the United States, we didn't have, we don't have Hulu here. We have Disney plus, which doesn't have Hulu. But anyway, it has the Hulu content, but it doesn't have live stuff.

Speaker: Anyway, please CTV bell, please get your shit together. Crave is already bad. Just give me the live stuff and then maybe I'll think it's not horrible. Anyway. Um, but yeah, let's move to the awards. Shall we? Unless you've got more to say anything else you would like to mention?

Speaker: no

Speaker: but Okay. We're going to go. if you i don't know if you've got the winners up on your screen. I'm going to go from the bottom of that winners page. I play out i gave the link to the Hollywood Reporter. um Okay. Yeah, let's do that. i'm just going to go to the very bottom if you want to follow along where i'm going. Sure. I did little check marks on my Oscar ballot sheet.

Speaker: Check marks to show that you did it. I took photo of mine. Here's my Oscar ballot, by the way. I did a photo of mine just to timestamp it, just in case you're going to call it.

Speaker: Oh, look at that. You're using a digital one. I already trust you last year. But anyway, i took a photo I took a photo of mine to make sure that it was obvious. Yeah, because you didn't take a screenshot or anything. Did you take any evidence that you didn't just fill this out this afternoon? Let's make it look like, oh, I got one wrong. Look at me.

Speaker: Simon, I got many wrong. Why would I make up that I got...

Speaker: 13 out of the 23 awards right. many did you get right? 13 out of the 23. Oh, well, that's a spoiler. We're supposed to be comparing them and then determining who won. You just gave away what you got. Now, well I'm not going to say what I got. But anyway. Okay.

Speaker: Kind of anticlimactic. you know how build a podcast here? Come on. We're trying to build a suspenseful show. I know somebody's watching this two hours in from Nova Scotia, at least.

Speaker: Okay. Okay. Okay, so visual effects. The nominations for visual effects were all Alien Romulus, Better Man, Dune Part 2, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and Wicked.

Speaker: Yes. What did you choose? I chose Dune Part 2. That's what I chose. Look at you. Look at you go. Look at us. Look at us. Look at I see you. I hear you clicking pens. You're filling in yours right now.

Speaker: I'm actually not going to. was going to just mark down which one's one so I could mark down. But I don't need it because. Well, marked down both in my list. My fiance did a sheet as well and she highlighted it, which is nice. But yeah, Dune Part 2, of course, won.

Speaker: And it deserved it. I think it was obvious. But I think you would have wanted Alien Romance to win. So I thought maybe you i would have you would have picked that. But you didn't. I would have. Good for you. playing a tactical game here, Simon.

Speaker: That didn't seem to pan out. Well, maybe it did. Maybe you won. You never know. Maybe. Okay. the The nominations for sound. um Mixing and editing now. Because as of a few years ago, they combined those two awards. And the nominations are a Complete Unknown.

Speaker: Which is that... What's that? Oh my God. Dylan. ah Bob Dylan. Thank you. Thank you so much. Names are escaping me today. I'm very tired. I think I'm not sure, but thank you.

Speaker: You, you, you, you trust followed me and I appreciate You trust the catch to me. I caught me. chris trust I don't know. Whatever. Point is the next nominees are Emilia Perez doing part two wicked and the wild robot. And the winner is doing part two. Adrian, what did you pick?

Speaker: Doing part two. Dune part two. Yes. I don't even know where this is on my sheet. because This isn't in order. It's middle row. also pick Dune part two.

Speaker: Okay. So look at this. we're going We're doing great. Two for two, Adrian. Two for two. We're neck and neck. The next award was production design and the nominees were The Brutalist, Conclave, Dune part two, Nosferatu, and Wicked.

Speaker: What did you pick, sir? I picked Dune part two. but Good for you. um Wicked one. Yes. It was the winner for the best production design. I picked Wicked.

Speaker: Up we go. How? How would you have guessed such a thing? You didn't even watch it. I don't need to watch it. I have i i did some research. I used my own knowledge. I combined various things together to make it happen.

Speaker: Okay? Okay. Interesting. Don't judge me. I'm judging. too difficult ah too Too hard. But my fiance was in the room when we did this. So she didn't see me scratching anything out, okay?

Speaker: And and mean I have a photo, so don't you dare call me a cheater. Okay. I'm calling you a cheater right now. Cheater, cheater, pumpkin, teater. The next award is international feature film. This is not in the order, by the way, of how the Oscars was presented, but it is the order of this particular sheet. So we're going to go with that, what the Hollywood reporters are presenting. But the and best international film nominees were I'm Still Here from Brazil, The Girl with the Needle from Denmark, Amelia Perez from France, The Seed of the Sacred Fig from Germany, and Flo from Latvia.

Speaker: Adrian, what did you pick? um I picked flow for this one. Interesting. Super interesting choice. the answer The answer was, the the winner was, I'm still here.

Speaker: um I thought it was either going to be, I'm still here or Amelia Perez. I chose, I'm still here. What? That's great. I have a bone to pick with this award. Because it's like in the best international feature film, right?

Speaker: have I'm Still Here on there. But Emilia Perez, we don't have to talk about Flo, but Emilia Perez was literally nominated for best picture. Yes, I'm still here. Oh, was?

Speaker: Sure was. Okay, that's on me. That's on me. Flo was not. That's why I didn't choose... flow. That's on me. Okay. um Fair enough. like That would have been an issue.

Speaker: Had they chosen one of the ones that didn't win, like if they, for instance, the girl the girl with the needle won, then I'd be like, hmm, how does that happen? But you're right. I'm still here was nominated. And so was like for actress in a leading role. What was her name now?

Speaker: It was, it is Fernanda Torres. And she was amazing apparently. So I don't believe it. But anyway, so yeah. So international film, I'm still here.

Speaker: Next up, documentary short film, Adrian. And we got the nominees, Death by Numbers, I Am Ready Warden, Incident, Instruments of a Beating Heart, and The Only Girl in the Orchestra.

Speaker: which is the winner of that of this documentary short film award. Which one did you pick, sir? I chose The Only Girl in the Orchestra. Good for you. Really? Yeah. There's a one in five chance that I got it right.

Speaker: is that what happened or did you do any research? That's what happened. didn't do any research. I was just like, I picked I Am Ready Ward and I did not get that. I got to be real. All of the categories of like movies that...

Speaker: like Most of the categories, pretty much any of the categories of the non-mainstream movies, I guess, the more mainstream movies, I did not get for the most part.

Speaker: Spoiler alert. But yeah, anyway. next ah Next category is documentary feature film. And the nominees are Black Box Diaries, No Other Land, Porcelain War, Soundtrack to a Coup d'etat, and Coup d'etat, sorry, and Sugarcane.

Speaker: what ah the The winner is No Other Land, which I honestly should have picked, honestly. After they got on stage and explained what their movie was, I'm like, why didn't I see that coming? I should have known this. And their speech was great, by the way.

Speaker: I thought their speech was amazing. And what their movie seems to be about is really cool. Like, yeah, it's ah it's a neat idea. It seems like, from from what I'm gathering anyways, it's like we have Palestinians and and Israelis making a movie together about the conflict. And I think that that's...

Speaker: really neat and nuanced. What'd you pick for the one? I picked black box diaries because I had a planes on the mind.

Speaker: Oh, planes. Yeah. Cause don't planes have the black box in them? Yeah. Yeah. When crash. Right. Well, you got planes. There's been a lot of plane stuff. You're really, you're really making me worried. I'm getting on a plane in like four hours.

Speaker: yeah Yeah. Oh my goodness. Not four hours, like six hours, but yeah. Okay. What do pick? Cool. I picked Porcelain War. i did not get that one.

Speaker: Oh, okay. yeah i would That would have been my last choice. Whoa. Porcelain? Well, good for you, i guess. That was a bad choice, man. Thanks. All right. Next one is Music, Original Song, specifically. And the nominees are el Mal, The Journey, Like a Bird,

Speaker: Me Camino and never too late. I should say where they're from. Elmau is from Amelia Perez. the Journey is from the six triple eight. Like a bird is from sing sing. Me Camino is from Amelia Perez and never too late is from Elton John. Never too late.

Speaker: Adrian, would you pick? I picked El Mal from Amelia Perez because I'm pretty sure it won the Golden Globe. so Very good choice because it won. It won in this case as well.

Speaker: I also picked El Mal as well. And I kind of agree with that because I think that El Mal is the best song in Amelia Perez, to be honest. It's pretty great. And I think that Zoe Saldana is great in it. Yeah. So can we really quick talk about the people that took this that took the award here? Oh, yeah. 100%. Oh, my God.

Speaker: That was the most cringe thing I've seen. That was uncomfortable. oh They like took the award. I'm like, yeah it's fantastic. You know, they won this award. Good for them. Like stellar stuff. But then the the woman that that was on on stage started singing. They got, they started getting played off and she started singing in the microphone.

Speaker: Yeah. About the award. And I was like, oh my God, like, please. i was I wish they kind of just increased the the volume ah of like being played off. That was brutal. That was a rough watch. I i wonder like, was there like ah is there like a lack of social understanding in that situation? Like, I don't understand. I would never do that. I i kind of have this inkling in my my own mind. I want to get out of the way as fast as possible. Like, I would want to... I've always thought about if I won an Oscar, I've always said this. My brother said, no, you can't do that. You have to thank everyone. I've always thought I would just do kind of what Billy Bob Thornton did when he won for Fargo. He's just like, there's a lot of things I could say right now, but a lot that would get me in trouble.

Speaker: So I'm just going to say thank you. And then he walked away. that's amazing I think that was a Golden Globe at the time for Fargo season one. But anyway, I yeah, I don't know.

Speaker: I just I don't know. I would say much because I don't want to be a bother. I want the show to move on. I want people to enjoy it. That's more important to me than because I know there's producers making these shows. And i also know there's an audience listening to it. And, you know, there's an audience out there listening to it. and I don't think they care that much.

Speaker: about what i have to say but yeah like when she started singing i'm like oh my god this better not go on too long and it went on too long yeah way too long why on i mean it went on too long like two seconds would have been too long i think one second yeah any and don't do that yeah there's like a lack of like a social understanding of the our social agreement in that situation i feel yeah that's kind of what i felt like like our public social you know yeah contract we have as humans it was not a brutalist but it was a good good good song so congratulations to them next up we both picked the same one so we picked on now good for us next up music original score this time um yeah brutalist the winner is the brutalist but the the specific uh nominees were the brutalist conclave amelia perez wicked and the wild robot i'm super curious what you chose here

Speaker: I picked the wild robot because I heard very good things about it. Um, and that it had like a phenomenal score. Look at that. I never found the, this, the composer for conclave. His name is Volker Burtelman who won last year for, um, I believe that's true for, um,

Speaker: All Quiet on the Western Front, which is me. And listening to Conclave, I literally thought that he might win, but then I did research and I picked the Brutalist. It's funny because I forgot that I picked the Brutalist and I thought Conclave was going to win. i really did think it would win.

Speaker: And I was like, oh, and I picked it. I didn't pick it. I looked at it after. I'm like, how could I pick that? The Brutalist has to have a great soundtrack. And I looked down and like, oh, it is. the I picked the Brutalist anyway. So I did pick the Brutalist.

Speaker: But interesting. So why sorry, why did you say picked a Wild Robot? because I heard really good things about it. Oh, the score. Okay. Yeah. I didn't do any research, Simon. I just went into this. I was going off the cuff. I was going off what I heard.

Speaker: Sure, sure, sure. From past. Sounds good. Well, you did do research on the last one. You said you looked into the Golden Globe and you saw that the music, the original song was El Mal. Best original song for Golden Globe.

Speaker: Yeah, because i didn't I don't know. I just as I guess because I saw two Amelia Perez songs and i was like, I know one of them won. was like, which one? So I had to figure out that. The Brilis, honestly, though, from what I've heard of the score, very good.

Speaker: I actually kind of want to watch The Brutalist more so because the score is really good. It's weird. I was in the shower yesterday or two days ago, and I had this this song from The Brutalist. I was going through my brain, and I was like, one the song they were showing at the Oscars in various other places, like they kind of like the little snippet from the movie.

Speaker: I was like, that's a really awesome score from a movie. I thought it was from a movie from the 80s or the 70s or something like that, like an old movie. And I was like, oh, yeah. And then I thought about it longer, you know, shower thoughts. And I'm like, no, that was the brutalist. I haven't even seen the movie.

Speaker: And I literally just heard that snippet a few times. And I literally remembered it. i'm like, yeah, that makes sense. what It's good for them. Good for Daniel Blumberg. Yeah. Never mind.

Speaker: what What about him? What about him? Nothing. What are going to say? No, don't want say that. It's mean. I don't want to be mean. Okay, that's fair. well normally say is ta Just say it. Do what you want.

Speaker: know We were watching this. um My fiancé was like, oh, is this guy from Nosferatu? Oh, that's mean. he kind of He strikes me as like he could be like the... like Based on what he's wearing, he could be like the dude from...

Speaker: and He's like the Ratatouille critic, you know? He's like very black attire, very tall gentleman. He's very cartoon-esque in a way. no You know? Yeah. That's right. That's it. That's it.

Speaker: Wow. That is me, Adrian. That is me. no, he's very talented and clearly very skilled at what he does. Good for him. Good for him. Good for him.

Speaker: Anyway, next category is live action short film. ah The categories were... Sorry, the categories. The nominees were Alien, Anuja, I'm Not a Robot, The Last Ranger, and The Man Who Could Not Remain Silent. Adrian, what did you pick?

Speaker: I picked The Man Who Could Not Remain Silent. Good for you. I picked Anuja. And the answer was, the winner was specifically, I am not a robot. That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker: seems to be about a capture. Captcha? what gathered. Yeah. Like where you're like logging into something and it's like CPF eight, four. You got to type in the thing. I'm not a robot. That's what that is, right?

Speaker: Oh yeah. I'm pretty that's what it was about based on what I saw at the clip of it. I have no idea. Okay. I chose the man who could not remain silent. It had the longest name. Oh, so therefore it would win.

Speaker: Right. They put the most effort into the name. Yes. All right. I did research on these and I never got, again, I didn't get these categories of movies that people that don't usually watch. I just didn't get any, except for maybe the foreign film, but people watch the foreign films more so than the documentaries, I feel like. Well, maybe um maybe I'm biased just because I watch the fiction more often.

Speaker: You know, I don't know. Regardless of that, next category is makeup and hairstyling. The nominees were a Different Man, Emilia Perez, Nosferatu, The Substance, and Wicked. Your choice was? The Substance.

Speaker: Me too. We both got this one. Yeah. The Substance was the winner. That makes sense. I was tempted to do, I think, Nosferatu. Potentially.

Speaker: Because was pretty intense. Yeah. but But I didn't do it. I chose The Substance. Yeah. Okay. And the nominees for film editing are Anora, The Brutalist, Conclave, Emilia Perez, and Wicked.

Speaker: I chose Anora here. Sean Baker. Interestingly, i did not. I chose Conclave. I thought the that's why I said before, the the technical aspects of Conclave were so tight all the way through.

Speaker: I can see why sean Baker won this. it's It's very interesting what he said on stage is that he actually that was he made a funny joke about the director. he he having to recover the film because he was editing it.

Speaker: Yeah. He's I'm a bad director. don't know who directed this, but... like Yeah, essentially, like he so like, I had to save this movie with the film editing because ah I didn't do a good job directing. Yeah, it's interesting, though, he said something about directing. I think he edits all of his films.

Speaker: And there's something interesting about that concept. He says that he does a lot of his directing and editing, kind of something like that along those lines. A lot of that creative, like... aspect of how he makes movies is the editing aspect.

Speaker: And I got to say, having edited what I've edited and filmed what I've filmed, not that much, but I've done some creative projects where I've filmed it and edited it. I can't imagine not editing it, but that's not very common for anyone to be editing it and directing there's the same movie. Plus ah that movie is pretty big. i mean, it's not that big.

Speaker: The budget's not nearly as like an, it's an independent film. It's not doing part two, but still it is kind of surprising that, he does it He still does it to this day because of all the other productions that don't do it. But I would say that if I was in his shoes, I would do the same thing. It's remarkable that there's not more of more like him.

Speaker: But it's pretty cool that won that. But I did not pick that. I picked Conclave. So I was wrong. Okay, next the category is costume design. The nominees were a Complete Unknown, Conclave, Gladiator, Nosferatu, and Wicked.

Speaker: I chose Nosferatu for this one. I chose Wicked. And you were right. And you were right. That was correct. Wicked one for that one. And then we've got Best Cinematography.

Speaker: The nominees were The Brutalist. Dune Part 2. Greg Fraser. One, I think, for Dune Part 1, if I recall correctly. Emilia Perez. Ball Guiholm.

Speaker: Maria, Ed Lachman, Nosferatu, Jaron Blaschk. And the Brutalist, I didn't say it, but Lowell Crowley was the cinematographer. Laugh Out Loud Crowley. that's That's his full name, actually.

Speaker: Sure. Laugh Out Loud Crowley won, actually. He won for best cinematography for the Brutalist. What was your choice? I chose Dune Part II. Interesting.

Speaker: Interesting. I chose the Brutalist. Look at you. I sure did. Look at you. That movie seemed tight. And again, I did research, so it helped. Seemed tight three and a half hours.

Speaker: he He's not in charge of the edit. He's in charge of the cinematography. And know it was tight in terms of the way was shot. like It was very specific. He did a great job. right the The movie's runtime is not tight.

Speaker: That is correct. All right. ah Next category is animated short film. The nominees were Beautiful Men, In the Shadow of the Cypress, Magic Candies, Wander to Wonder, and Yuck.

Speaker: And i chose the winner was In the Shadow of the Cypress. You chose, sorry, what? You chose Beautiful Men here. Good for you. I didn't choose the winner. I know that for a fact. What did I choose?

Speaker: I don't remember. Animated short film? Bottom right. Bottom right. Animated. Here it is. Magic Candies is what I chose. Clearly not right. oh Clearly.

Speaker: Incorrect. No. This was a weird one, actually. The presentation of when they won this. Do you remember this? She was reading the thing off the phone and then he took the phone and said, you're not doing a good job. And he stuck it and read it.

Speaker: ah Initially, he was insisting that she would read it because there's two winners. They both came up on stage yeah to collect their Oscars and they're going to do their speech. And initially, she was going to read it. And I think they were going back and forth, but then it just didn't.

Speaker: It did work out, I guess, for him. I don't know. It seemed kind of rude on his part. I'm not sure. and don't know. yeah I don't know. Regardless of that, it was a weird, that was a weird interaction. All right.

Speaker: then i The next, the next Category is animated feature film, Adrian. And the nominees were Flo, Inside Out 2, Memoir of a Snail, Wallace and Gromit, and The Wild Robot.

Speaker: What did you choose? I chose Flo here, actually. Good, because if you didn't choose that, I would be shocked because it was coming in for, well, I guess it didn't have to coincide, I suppose, with best ah international film.

Speaker: But you did choose that for that, too. I did choose Flo as well. So we both got that one. The Wild Robot, i was I was thinking it might be the Wild Robot, in fact. um And I took a photo of it before the show started. It's time stamped.

Speaker: I crossed out the Wild Robot and chose Flo before the show started. sure took it I took a photo. No cheating. But the Wild Robot I thought might win because it's really well regarded.

Speaker: Inside Out 2 just seemed to be ignored. Not really that. Yeah. I got to still watch that movie, man. It's really good. It's excellent. But now I kind want to watch Flo.

Speaker: a cat. There's a cat in that movie. Yeah, yeah. I know you love First Man. That's not a surprise you didn't see Inside Out 2. I don't know. i just I was going to go watch it in theaters, and then just timing never lined up, and then it was out of theaters, and then now it's on Disney+, plus and then for a while I didn't think I had Disney+, plus and now it's like got to be in the mood to cry.

Speaker: Right. That's fair. anyway Yeah. I feel like it's not as much of a crier as the first one was. Yeah, probably not. Well, watched it. I didn't cry as much. it depends on you, I suppose. but Next category is the writing and this in this, in this case, original screenplay. And the, and the nominees were Anora, the brutalist, a real pain, September 5th and the substance. What did you choose, sir?

Speaker: I chose Anora here as well. Yes. Me too. And Anora won the best writing original screenplay. And to correct you there, Simon, it's September five, September five. Yeah. Sorry.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They did say that when they were reading out the award and it caught me so off guard. I was like, what? Number five. That's what it is. I don't It's, it it's, I mean, it's only up for a best writing award. Am I right?

Speaker: Grammar much? Just saying. Anyway, writing adapted screenplay is the next category. And the nominees were a complete unknown.

Speaker: Conclave. Amelia Perez. Nickel Boys and Sing Sing. What did you choose, sir? I chose Conclave for this as well, actually. Me too. Look at that.

Speaker: I would completely agree with that because I think the writing is pretty darn incredible. So I got watch it. Okay, and the next one, now we're getting into the big, ah big awards, I feel like. with them and no that's not true. I completely don't agree with that, actually. The the big awards according to the Oscars, but we're getting into the acting awards and then into the best picture, which is obviously the biggest award.

Speaker: um But the actress, best actress in a supporting role award, um The nominees were Monica Barbero for A Complete Unknown, Ariana Grande for Wicked, Felicity Jones for The Brutalist, Isabella Rossellini for Conclave, and Zoe Saldana for Emilia Perez.

Speaker: What did you choose? I chose Zoe Saldana from Emilia Perez. A good choice. So did I, and she won for Perez. She did indeed. for i The only reason I chose her is because you talked about Amelia present and you're like, so sell down. It was great. She was, she was like the main character. She's like the best. She was the main character. It's that's what I feel like she's at ah and at a serious advantage here. Cause she's, ah she literally has the most screen time of any actor in the movie.

Speaker: And she's in the, she's in the category actress in a supporting role. How does that work? I don't really understand that, but she was really great to be fair. so um her so Honestly, though, I feel like her speech, as much as she's packed a lot in there, she spoke very fast and she got through it really quickly, like in comparison to other people.

Speaker: I'll just say that. um But the the best speech of the night might go to the next next that category here. Actor in a supporting role. And the nominees were...

Speaker: Yura Borisov for Onora, Kieran Culkin for A Real Pain, Edward Norton for A Complete Unknown, Guy Pearce for The Brutalist, and Jeremy Strong for The Apprentice. What did you choose, sir?

Speaker: I chose Yura Borisov for Onora. You would be incorrect. But I did choose Kieran Culkin because he's won almost every single award in every award show for his role in A Real Pain. Although I think your poor self is incredible in Anora.

Speaker: I think he's like very, there's like some subtlety in his acting that's just so good, but I have to see A Real Pain to really give a, actual comparison. I don't know. yeah It's hard to really compare. It's kind of subjective in a way. Any of these, a lot of these categories are subjective.

Speaker: Probably all of them, to be fair. But Yoroborosov is incredible. Yeah, but Kieran Culkin won. And his speech was pretty funny. I thought it was pretty funny. ah Yeah, I do agree.

Speaker: Yeah. It was cool that you gave a shout out to Jeremy Strong, too, because I feel like they had a little bit of beef after Succession. Jeremy Strong is like the opposite actor to Kieran Culkin, I'm pretty sure. Like Karen Culkin, I think goes in and he knows the lines and he just kind of wings it. And Jeremy Strong like method acts for like, I feel like a year before he does a role.

Speaker: I'm not sure. It's probably an exaggeration, but he really does method act hard. And some people found that annoying on succession, mainly Brian Cox. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah. He talked a lot. remember that.

Speaker: Yeah. I think Brian Cox was like a try acting like, yeah, that was just kind of, his i don't know if he said that as a, as his line, but he kind of, I think felt that way just based on what he said. And Kieran Culkin, I think again was in that kind of,

Speaker: Boat. I don't know if i I don't think I told it on this podcast, but there's a story where Kieran Culkin like really stressed out. JC Eisenberg is very meticulous. Jesse Eisenberg like directed and wrote a real pain.

Speaker: and And when when he Karen Culkin came on set for the first time, he was he he started doing these improv things. like The script said what he was supposed to do like pretty specifically. And he had and Jesse Eisenberg had a whole map of what exactly he wanted in each scene.

Speaker: And Karen Culkin just came in and and he just did whatever he wanted, apparently. I saw i ah to saw him talking about this on Smartless. the the Jason Bateman, Will Arnett, Sean Hayes podcast.

Speaker: I thought it was pretty funny. And then eventually, Jesse Eisenberg was so frustrated in the beginning, but then eventually just threw the script out, the extended script out the window, like his his shot to shop blocking and everything like that. He's like, I guess I'm just not doing this.

Speaker: I guess I'm doing something else because this guy is just going to do whatever he wants. And then of course, Jesse Eisenberg didn't get many nominations, but Kieran Culkin did. So, yeah but I think that movie is just excellent in general. So, I mean, I feel like it's a testament to Jesse Eisenberg's movie that I think any best actor win is a kind of a testament to the director.

Speaker: I think, know. I think so. Definitely. Yeah. You are directing the actors. That's actually, we talked about this on Captain America Brave New World. I think that the reason why that movie is not great is because there was a lack of confidence in the writing and the directing.

Speaker: I think that like Anthony Mackie and any other Marvel movie didn't seem like a bad actor at all. But somehow you were saying when we're talking about Captain America 4, you thought he didn't, he's not a good actor. It's like,

Speaker: in this movie you said specifically it's like yeah that kind of sucks because i've never seen him be a bad actor so how did that happen it's like there was no we i made that joke about trust fall with you earlier but i feel like there's just no trust fall you can't fall back on anyone i don't know that's yeah this is it's just a disappointing it was a disappointing affair because just it just felt like don't know the people were hung out to dry like there's just nobody nobody really knew what they were doing like the cooks in the kitchen were just not really No one was, they all looking to each other like, are you going to, Anthony Mackie, you've been in many of these. Are you going hold this up and make us great?

Speaker: I think, no, it's not how it's going to work. Oh, um cause I was going to make a spoiler. So I can't say that. I was going to say there. Anyway, there's a, there's a specific scene in the movie that there's like a specific legacy type of scene in the movie that I felt like, Oh,

Speaker: I think you know what i'm I'm talking about because you were shaking your head, but if you've seen the movie, there's like this particular scene it that I'm like, ah is this going to save our movie? Is this going to do it? This will do it, right? This is like ah yeah potential callback kind of situation maybe we'll be good now i don't know the more the more time that's passed from that movie and the more i think about the less i like it and yeah my disappointment is like slowly becoming just like rage it's like yeah it's too bad it's too bad yeah it's this potential that's lost but um

Speaker: Yeah, anyway. Okay. Next category. ah Next category is Actress in a Leading Role. And I think I know you who you picked, but we'll see. Actress a Leading Role, the nominees are Cynthia Rivo for Wicked, Carla Sofia Gascon for Emilia Perez, Mikey Madison for Enora, who won said award, Demi Moore for The Substance, and Fernanda Torres for I'm Still Here. Adrian, what'd you pick?

Speaker: I picked yeah Carla Sofia Gascon. Did you actually? No, no, I didn't. No, I didn't. oh I picked Mikey Madison, of course. She was phenomenal in an aura. I really loved her her acceptance speech as well.

Speaker: She just seems like a very nice person. like Every time the camera was on her, though, I will say, she seemed pretty nervous to be there. I don't know why. and Maybe i mean so may be potentially favorite to win. The actual favorite to win, though, favorite to win was Demi Moore, actually, according to many websites.

Speaker: And so I picked Demi Moore. I was wrong. Whoa, interesting. I really want to watch the Substance. I really want to watch it. I know I would like it. yeah I got to see the substance to compare. i think and I think, to be fair, Mikey Madison is incredible in Enora. She's so good, but I wanted to win this competition here. So that's why I did that. i Wait, is that the one I crossed? Yep, that's the second one I crossed out.

Speaker: i i like I really want Mikey Madison to win, so I picked it. And I'm like, but everyone's saying it's Demi Moore. So i like, I guess I'll cross it out and pick it. So I picked Demi Moore.

Speaker: And also, I also picked Demi Moore because Demi Moore has been around the block for a long time. She's been doing this for a long time. And I don't think she's got any... matt she's not I don't think she's got an Oscar. Not that recall. I have no idea. This is like Mikey Madison's first foray into this. And I imagine she'll be up for many more of these just based on her performance in Enora.

Speaker: So I thought like Leonardo DiCaprio being... People thought, I don't necessarily think, but people thought snubbed many years for the Academy Awards after many nominations and never winning and then winning for for The Revenant. Where he's like... oh

Speaker: For about half minute. Is that a compliment or a... It's good. Yeah, he was acting just grunts. He was good. I will say, though, he was kind of... I think he was beaten in that movie by Tom Hardy.

Speaker: at the time are i Dude, I was thinking the same thing. Me and you. We're two peas and a hearty. ah Two peas and a hearty, as they say. Classic phrase. Yeah. Classic phrase.

Speaker: Speaking of Tom Hardy, just really quick segue. Did you see the trailer for that, the action movie with me by the raid? Oh, I sent it to you. Yeah, you sent it to me.

Speaker: Sorry. Yeah, of course you saw it. Yeah, that looks really cool. we We talked about that. It's funny. It's been two years since we did the podcast and we started it up again this year, but we talked about this movie from the raid director.

Speaker: It's Gareth Evans, right? Gareth Evans. Yeah. I always want to say Gareth Edwards because that's the that's a Godzilla guy, right? Yeah. Rogue one. Yeah. Yeah. Rogue one. be Yeah. Right.

Speaker: right Because we think that it's Tony Gilroy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, But yeah, no, that ah that looks really cool with Tom Hardy. I'm very curious to see what how it pans out.

Speaker: Because The Raid and The Raid Redemption are very... Oh, wait, is that the same movie? The Raid 2. Yeah, it's The Raid Redemption is the first one. And then The Raid... I think it's literally just called The Raid 2. Oh, okay.

Speaker: Anyway, they're both great. They're excellent action movies. So I'm very excited to see. Yeah, it is Yeah, The Raid 2 and The Raid Redemption. What's this movie called? Havoc? No. Yes.

Speaker: It is. Okay, thanks. Okay, sweet. So you got this. You're doing pretty well in this. I feel like you have 13. Yeah. Maybe I miscounted. I can recount it.

Speaker: Yeah, we should recount it at the end. Okay. ah The next one, the next the award is Actor in a Leading Role. ah The nominees are Adrian Brody for The Brutalist, Timothy Chalamet for A Complete Unknown, Coleman Domingo for Sing Sing, Ralph Fiennes for Conclave, and Sebastian Stan for The Apprentice.

Speaker: Adrian, your pick. I chose Adrian Brody for the brutalist. And you would be correct. So did I. And man, what what a speech. Yeah, dude.

Speaker: it's It's interesting because it's the longest speech in Oscar history. It's like five five and a half minutes. but Right. They count from when his name is called.

Speaker: to when he's like left the stage. So they count like how long it takes him to get to the stage and to start a speech and all of that. But yeah, God damn, what a boring ass speech, man.

Speaker: God, like shut up, dude. You know what it felt like to me though? It felt like he wrote it on the, like he never wrote the speech. He never prepared it, and even though he was likely to win. Like he was the one that I think everyone thought would win.

Speaker: And he just didn't come there prepared at all. And he just was winging it, but he was winging it so darn slowly that it was just so boring. And then he literally got played off and he said, I've done this before it go away. And it's he felt to me, he just came off as pretentious.

Speaker: Yeah, very much so. I didn't like it. came up with little bit of arrogant. like I don't know. I didn't like it at all. That that was like that was the worst part of the Oscars, maybe. yeah but it was maybe I'm not sure if it was worse than the singing for El Mal. Oh, no, no, no. yeah The singing was definitely worse. But I would i would argue this was brutal-est.

Speaker: yeah It was the brutalist moment. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was bad. I don't know what he was thinking. I, because it's silly. Like, and then he, he's like, he's thanking everyone. And then he, he tries to make a political, I don't even know what the statement that was. he making I was very confused. I was like, what is the message here?

Speaker: Cause it it's, not sure I can't even remember what it was. It reminded me of the ending of captain Falcon and the winter man, where it's just like, just be better. Right. can by And by captain Falcon and the winter man, you mean Falcon the winter soldier, the TV show on Disney plus. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: Just trying to clarify for if we're seeing it once on the pod, once on the podcast, you got to clarify that first time and then we can say, but yeah, fair enough. Touche, touche. Every yeah like time after that, it just, it felt like ah a political statement that meant nothing. It it was just a statement.

Speaker: Yeah, like he felt like he had to make one. I'm like, what are you talking about, dude? I don't i don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It was strange. Yeah, poor Killian Murphy. He's just standing there for fucking five and a half minutes and just from Blake staring his eyes.

Speaker: ah like Killian Murphy. Yeah, he's a good guy. He seems good. Yeah. All right. He's a good actor. That's for sure. um Okay. next ah Next award is directing.

Speaker: Best director. We've got nominated here. We did this. Did we? we didn't. Best Director. Sorry, no, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Sorry. he's won This guy had won so many times, you're getting confused.

Speaker: Yeah. We got Best Directing, which is one of the most prestigious awards. How would we have done it yet? But anyway. I don't remember. got Jacques jaques Adiard for Emilia Perez. We got Sean Baker for Enora. Brady Corbett for The Brutalist.

Speaker: Coralie Forgette. Forgette? Forgette, I think it is. For the substance. Forgette. I don't think so. I'm pretty producer sure that's not right. And then James Mangold for a complete unknown.

Speaker: And the winner was Sean Baker. I'm going to guess you picked Sean Baker. I did indeed. Yeah. That for sure makes sense. And I picked Sean Baker as well. I think that that would to me was a no brainer. I think prettyy Brady Corbett could have won potentially, but he did not.

Speaker: um Although the brutalists very well regarded. It's excellent. But regardless of that, yes, Sean Baker won. And, uh,

Speaker: Oh, that was the moment actually I was going to mention. The one thing that was really cool. So he won a lot of awards and he actually tied for the most wins by the end of it. Because Walt Disney... walt dis I think it was Walt Disney that had the same number of wins in the same night. Specifically, not in general, but in the same day.

Speaker: um But the cool thing that he did during this speech specifically was that he talked about how the theater industry is suffering. And he called that out and talked about how the exhibitionist industry like it needs support. And people need to go to their independent theaters and go to movie theaters and watch movies.

Speaker: Movies in theaters and not just on streaming. And thought it was neat because... Quentin Tarantino presented him the award. And I know Tarantino is a big advocate for this to the point where he even bought a theater, I'm pretty sure, in in California.

Speaker: I'm fairly certain. And so, I mean, Quentin Tarantino is such an interesting fellow. Like he is making one more movie, but it's like, man, is that movie ever going to come out? you know Yeah. I think he gave himself way too much pressure. I got to say, like he's claiming he wants to do 10 movies and that's it.

Speaker: And the, and like, because, and the reasoning was because you, at a certain point, you're never going to get better. He wants every movie to get better than the last. That's just a silly thing. Isn't your passion to make movies? I i don't understand that.

Speaker: ah You would think that you would just continue to make movies. It would just be fun for you. And you would just continue doing it. That seems a little strange. And like, there's no guarantee that the next one's going to be his best movie. So what happens if it's not like, I don't know you, then you're going make another one.

Speaker: and then I feel like he will. I hope so. Or going to find a loophole and do like a mini series. But I don't think he's even started the movie. He was writing one, right?

Speaker: He was. I think he started over or something. he's I think he's writing a movie about a movie critic. they go Yeah, that's what it was. And then I think he shelved that movie. He was like, i'm not going to do this. Is that the one he shelved? He was going to do a Star Trek movie too, but that's right. There's too much pressure now. He created so much pressure for himself to make the brightest movie that's ever made.

Speaker: I don't know. I just make more movies, dude. you're You're a talented filmmaker, a skilled one. You're incredible. what like I want to see more movies from you. 2019 was the last movie you made, the Once Upon a time Time in Hollywood, which honestly, i and don't know if this is a controversial take, but I think it's my favorite movie from him. I love that movie, yeah. It's fantastic.

Speaker: And it was cool because Sean Baker also thanked Quentin Tarantino for introducing him to Mikey Madison and madison ah because that's where Sean Baker saw her the first time. Right, yeah. I think that might have been one of her first major roles.

Speaker: ah It's not major, but... Yeah, she's a minor character in it, because honestly, I forgot she was in that. And I was like, oh, yeah. Because like the first time I remember seeing her, and actually the only time I remembered seeing her was in Scream.

Speaker: Scream 6. 5. Scream 5? Scream 5. You're the Scream encyclopedia, don't ask me. Yeah. But okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, that was cool. that was It was a good speech.

Speaker: I liked how he left that. he He didn't want to do it all at once. So he thanked the people he needed to in the in the and like preceding speeches and then did it after, which I appreciate because you're not going to take up everyone's time for five and a half hours, Adrian Brody.

Speaker: Like, geez Louise, bro. I don't know. No one's going to remember you for a good speech there. They're just going to think of you as the guy who spent two and a half hours on the speech anyway. Whatever.

Speaker: um And of course, the last category, the most important one of the night, of course, is Best Picture. And the nominees are Enora, The Brutalist, A Complete Unknown, Conclave, Doom Part 2, Amelia Perez, I'm Still Here, Nickel Boys, and The Substance.

Speaker: And the winner was Enora. What? Oh, Wicked. Sorry, I'm so sorry. Yes, and Wicked, of course. I thought that was part of the last line there. But yeah, and Wicked.

Speaker: 10 nominees. And the winner was Enora.

Speaker: Actually, no, there's eight nominees. Wait, how many nominees? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, ten. um Anyway, the winner was Nora. I picked a Nora. I'm sure you did, too. No, I actually picked The Brutalist. I thought it was going to be the Brutalist. It was three and a half hour long movie. Everyone was talking about it. assumed that was going to be The Brutalist.

Speaker: Why does that mean that it's going to win? i don't know. It's a long ass movie. Yeah. That was the first category I picked because it's literally in the top of our, our, our page here. yeah And I picked a norm instantly. I didn't have a second thought. I was like the brutalist could win, but honestly thinking about the movies that won recently, like Coda as an example, and like, Hmm. thinking everything, everywhere, all at once, as an example, I feel like those movies, like, I don't know, but the Brulis is almost too much. It's almost too deep. It's too, they they're kind of getting a little bit more laxed on this. They want to pull in audiences from everywhere. I know in a weird way, like what's the greatest movie that like the Brulis is almost not as accessible as it can be.

Speaker: I know Brady Corbett said like, Like, the director of The Brutalist is like, oh what does it matter how long a movie is? This doesn't matter. I can make the longest movie I want. It's like, that's cool. People will watch Marvel movies. They're three and a half hours and nobody bets an eye.

Speaker: yeah but that's you that's exciting, though. and yeah Not that The Brutalist won't be exciting. I'm sure it'll be great. But, like, Killers of the Flower Moon didn't win last year either. and it And it shouldn't win. Because it, to me, is a good movie, but it's not...

Speaker: it's It's not like the, again, it's the sum of all of its parts that makes, I think, the movie movie a best picture. And so that's why. yeah It was also interesting because apparently, i don't know if you heard this.

Speaker: I heard this after the fact. And I i think I would have changed my opinion. But the Brutalists used AI. I don't know if you heard this. What? No, I didn't. So what way apparently, um what they used ai for, because a Adrian Brody's character, it's like Laszlo Toth or whatever.

Speaker: He's a Hungarian person. And there's a part of the movie where he talks in Hungarian, but Adrian Brody apparently refused to speak the lines in Hungarian because he didn't know how to say it properly. So they used AI to make him talk in Hungarian.

Speaker: How many lines is it, though? It's very it's very small, apparently. It's like very like very brief. That's okay. I don't care about that. yeah but I don't think that would have made it loose. But I feel like just knowing that though, just because I know like everyone's opinion on AI and they even talk about it during this, this show is very negative in the film industry. So I just assume if I heard that I would have been okay.

Speaker: No, because one thing there's um what's a what's the movie that I really liked? It's a horror movie late night with the devil. Yeah. um They apparently use ai in in that movie as well. There's like I've seen that plays like on the background of like the on the TV it's like the skeleton dancing. And they apparently just used AI to make that and put that in the movie.

Speaker: That's waste of time. Why? Yeah. Just get a real skeleton. Go to a cemetery, dig up a corpse, make the skeleton move. Super easy, super simple. It's a scene behind the characters.

Speaker: Yeah, I guess you can. Alright, how many you get? Because I feel like you got way more than you said you did. I i counted 13. I recounted. It's 13. thirteen Okay, well I got 17, so...

Speaker: Sorry for loss.

Speaker: Yeah. It felt like you got a lot more than I... I know. I know. But I didn't. I had to count mine twice because I couldn't believe it was 17 out of 23. It seems like that's very high. That is high.

Speaker: My fiance got five. If you want to feel better about yourself. Honestly, that actually makes me feel worse. Why? Okay. okay um But I like that she participated because she literally did no research literally at all. she And she just checked them off and she didn't see a lot of these movies and she had no perspective on some of them at all.

Speaker: So I appreciate that, that she just did that for fun. that That's pretty awesome. Good for her. She kept track of them the whole time. She stayed and watched the whole Oscars. Usually she just bails. But yeah, that was the Oscars, Adrian. The Oscars 2025. I was entertained. i do feel like the pacing was off. I do think that they could do a better job. I think that the musical numbers, as I said before, could be better. But I thought that Conan O'Brien was great. and i thought some of the presenters were great. at and nick I thought Nick Offerman was great.

Speaker: um But yeah, that's my that's my take. That's very cool.

Speaker: Sure. So cool. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, okay.

Speaker: Oh yeah. I won't waste time. That was the name of the musical number. Yeah. I won't waste time. And he sung it. He sang it multiple times. And the funniest part about that song is that he was wasting time, which is brilliant.

Speaker: That's a joke with layers right there, man. joke There's this dune worm. The dune sandworm was playing piano. Pretty cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Pretty cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: Even the immemorial, like they usually double up the immemorial and then use that as a musical number, but they didn't even do that. And they said, they just, I feel like they added another musical number. Why not just do somebody playing the piano? Like you normally do that yeah to me is better than doing these extra musical numbers. I also thought the double was seven thing, the best thing about the double seven thing was, uh, Margaret Qualey.

Speaker: Mm-hmm. quali qualey quick yeah i think it's pronounced quali actually i feel like i heard that but either way i love margaret quali it's one of the reasons i want to watch the substance i freaking love margaret quali yeah she's great and she's a great dancer and so she's phenomenal she's a phenomenal actress like yeah that was the best part of leftovers sequence come on man but then they then they just had a bunch of singers singing and i thought doja cat was kind of a little bit pitchy don't know i want you found that it's funny uh yeah like every time doja cat comes on and i'm like oh it's this person because i always think doja cat and dua lipa are the same people and i realize every time i see them i've never confused they're totally different i think it's just the d at the start doja dua and for whatever reason it messes with my brain and i'm like oh what the hell who's that like that's not that's not doja cat yeah

Speaker: Right. i see Cool. That's Dua Lipa.

Speaker: Okay. Yeah. yeah Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it okay. and that that was a really long That was a really long segment of the show, but I felt like it didn't it didn't hit. Didn't you feel like that? Am I the only one? Yeah, I feel like it didn't hit either. I was kind of like, whatever.

Speaker: Yeah. Okay. All right, cool. Okay. Super cool. Now on to a segment of our show that I like to call Look to the Future. What? A portion of our podcast where each of us present our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between March 11th and March 2025. Adrian?

Speaker: twenty twenty five adrian I will throw this to you as is customary. Okay, Simon. What is your first pick for those dates?

Speaker: Film, TV? I'm going to start with something a little unexpected. Okay. Something that I don't think you would think that I would pick. Okay. And what I'm going to pick is actually a a live TV show that's coming out on Netflix.

Speaker: On March 12th, it is Everybody's Live with John Mulaney. Cool. Yeah, really cool. It's going to be a and like a weekly live talk show starring John Mulaney.

Speaker: Yeah, really neat. I'm pretty excited about that. i really like John Mulaney as ah as as a comedian. i think he's... but really funny guy. I like his delivery. I know he went through a lot of stuff, went to rehab and everything.

Speaker: His last special on Netflix, I didn't love. ah can't even remember if I finished it. I feel like it was just kind of sad. It's like very dark. He's talking about like how his like in um intervention was like the the craziest intervention ever because it's just a bunch of celebrities sitting him down.

Speaker: And he's like, and it was awesome because like everyone's there. And then I would I kept on sneaking away to do cocaine in the bathroom. I'm like, man, this is actually very sad. Like, it's not even funny. It's just sad. um Yeah, I heard that story from other accounts. I think Seth Meyers told something similar like on the show with with John Mulaney as a guest.

Speaker: Mm hmm. Yeah. But um yeah, so that's my first pick special. That's cool. That's a great pick. That's a great pick. Didn't even think of that. I think it was just announced though, wasn't it? Just a couple Within the last like few weeks.

Speaker: I feel like i yeah heard about it first. but I didn't know.

Speaker: Actually, do we even know about it existing? I don't even know. I like late night talk shows to be honest. I enjoy them quite a bit. I liked Conan's show. I loved Craig Ferguson's show back in the day. I still watch Jimmy Kimmel live. I watched Jon Stewart's show, like the Daily Show. I think he does a great job as well.

Speaker: colbert pretty cool yeah so i watch these things on occasion plus it gives me like ah like the news is really depressing right now so it's like a dose of the news with comedy and interspersed as opposed to just looking at the news and being depressed so it helps yeah like you know make the medicine go down as they say yeah it is so i'm curious about this it's cool this weekly most of these late night shows are um or daily other than John Oliver show, which is probably my favorite one of them all.

Speaker: John Oliver show is great. So also because he can just swear and do whatever he wants. I really like it's on HBO, so you can kind of get crazy, but yeah, that's cool. Are you going watch it?

Speaker: Yes. John Mulaney's. Oh, cool. Sweet. Did see how many episodes it was going to go? Is it going to go for the rest of the year? i have no idea. it just says weekly. Like on the Netflix write-up, it says like a live show every Wednesday at 10 p.m.

Speaker: weekly. The interesting thing about that is that like Jimmy Kimmel Live is not live. Like there's no there's almost no live shows actually for talk shows, which is quite interesting. So the fact that they're doing another live show, because they've been doing live stuff, like Netflix is being live stuff with the fight with – ah Mike Tyson is an example and they they've been doing live stuff with the WWE I guess and this is live as well but it's it's funny because it's not like the rest of the industry in which there really isn't a lot of live talk shows right now they're they're not live I think they used to be live years ago and I think even Jimmy Kimmel live used to be live and that's what was called that but it's not live so there's no live talk shows I don't think running and I can think of that are really the major ones anyway so it's kind of neat that they're doing it live it's cool mm-hmm

Speaker: ah Cool. All right. That's good choice. Thank you. I agree. Yeah. My First Choice is directed by Steven Soderbergh. Just got rated on Rotten Tomatoes as over a 90% Adrian.

Speaker: And it's the movie Black Bag with Cate Blanchett and ah Michael Fassbender. Two spies. It looks like a very ah Mr. and Mrs. Smith yeah type situation. It comes out on March 14th.

Speaker: So that looks pretty cool. I, that kind of is a funny one. Cause I was looking forward to that. Cause I saw the trailer a month ago or something like that. And I was like, Oh, this looks kind of neat. And then now that it's a 90%, I'm kind of, I'm intrigued.

Speaker: I'm intrigued. I'll watch it with you. Yeah. Yeah, it might be something I'll see. Yeah. In theaters. He just came out with a movie as well that I wanted to watch called, I think it's Presence.

Speaker: A horror movie. Right. Yeah. it didn't come out yet, though, did it? That did. it came out like a month ago, dude. Oh, it did come out. And it's horror movie. That probably won't, I don't think that was like lesser, probably would have to go to like the independent theaters for that, because I don't think I saw that. It was at Cineplex for like less than a week, if I recall correctly. Oh,

Speaker: And I wanted to watch it, but it's a horror movie from the ghost perspective. So you are literally in the ghost's like eyes, POV, watching this family like come to this house. It's it's it's it's cool that it does that.

Speaker: But yeah, I'm curious about that. reviewed very well in Rotten Tomatoes, but not by fans, just by critics. Interestingly, presence. It came out on January 24th. Yeah.

Speaker: Interesting. Okay, cool. what's your next pick? My next pick is an interesting one, actually. It is um The Day the Earth Blew Up, a Looney Tunes movie.

Speaker: And that is coming out on March 14th as well. ah t What? It's starring ah Daffy Duck and and Porky Pig.

Speaker: Okay, it's an actual animated movie. Yeah. Are you excited about that? are you big Looney Tunes fan? No, not particularly. I was when I was a kid, but I'm not really invested into it. But it's super interesting because they canceled that like kind of half that live action, like animated Acme versus Coyote movie that they wrote off.

Speaker: David Zaslav did. um Yeah, that really annoyed me. That looked really good. Little Forte stars in that. that like Yeah, wasn't it like John Cena as well? like Honestly, that that really sucked.

Speaker: Because it's funny because I like the Looney Tunes and I actually do. we We don't get enough of them. They're not like an overused property. They're barely in anything really. that that Like that in modern culture, I feel like.

Speaker: Yeah. So it's kind of shitty that that got, especially because I like the peter like the, I almost said Peter Rabbit, had the the Who Framed Roger Rabbit style animated mix with live action.

Speaker: I think that's really cool. Or actually a good example of one that came out recently, the Chip and Dale movie with John Mulaney. That's great. way John Mulaney and Andy Samberg. Yeah. And like that, though though that movie's great. I i don't know. i I was really looking forward to that Looney Tunes movie and that it was very disappointing that they decided not to do it.

Speaker: I don't get it. I feel like they would have made way more money than they would have on the write-off. I really think it would have been more popular than people think. Yeah, but maybe not. Maybe people always whine about this movie, but they wouldn't have actually watched in theaters.

Speaker: I actually legitimately was looking forward to watching in theaters when I initially heard the concept for it. I thought it was really cool and I was going to go see it. So unless it was really, really badly screen tested, like it like it just played really by all accounts, it was it was very good.

Speaker: Like that's I thought, yeah, like everything you read online was very good. Like, yeah, I remember because this was around the time of Batgirl being wrote up, like written off and everything like that. And I think people were kind of lukewarm on Batgirl. So like, I don't think anyone was really upset about that truly.

Speaker: But yeah, I remember this Acme versus Coyote thing. And they were trying to, I think, sell it like someone was going to try to buy it. I think no one wanted to pay the whatever the amount was that Warner Brothers was trying to do. it So they were just like, ah, fuck it. We're write it off, which is absurd because I think it was completed. Like it was done.

Speaker: Totally. It flies in the face of art. That's the issue with it. It's just, it's like, you're not really for, this is where Warner brothers, like Warner brothers hasn't been making to me, honestly, on a, on a film and TV perspective, they haven't really made that many bad movies. about We were talking about video games earlier. I feel like yeah it flies in the face of art. Cause that actually monolith was not making a wonder woman game. Initially they were making a game that they were making their own IP, a new IP for Warner brothers.

Speaker: They would owned it. But then they they just decided, you're not allowed to do this. And actually, i was disappointed. I forgot to mention this. Monolith is cool, but Monolith is cool because of the people and the talent, the the skilled people who work there.

Speaker: A lot of the people who left after they said, no, we won't make let you make your own IP. And then they started making the Wonder Woman game after that. That's actually what happened. So Monolith was actually potentially a ship of Theseus situation. That's like a, not really what it was before. A lot of people were gone from that studio.

Speaker: But again, that flies in the face of art. Cause I feel like i have a feeling that that Monolith game that they were making, that was the new IP was probably good. And that's probably what happened with the coyote versus Acme.

Speaker: There's for some reason they wanted the sure bet. And it's, again, it's just not about, it's not about art. It's about the bottom line. It's about shareholders and, Growing your company every year.

Speaker: Every quarter. Every month. Yeah. Anyway, that's life. Sad. Anyway, um you just went, right? Yeah, yeah. You did the new tunes. Okay. um I'm going to choose on this one. going to go with Electric State. That comes out March 14th.

Speaker: It is from the Russo Brothers. Joe and Anthony Russo. It stars Millie Bobby Brown from Stranger Things and Chris Pratt from everything, including... both Garfield and Super Mario Brothers, apparently.

Speaker: I forgot about that Garfield movie. Did you ever watch that Mario movie? Mario? Yeah, Super Mario Brothers are watched. Yeah. Not Garfield. Yeah. But Electric State looks interesting. I'm curious to see if it gets reviewed well, if it's going to be good.

Speaker: It's a Netflix movie. Curious about it. Seems like it's really high budget. But we'll see. You think it's going to be bad I think it's going to be bad. Okay. Interesting. The Roosevelt brothers are interesting because they they've released a few movies since they left the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but they're not amazing.

Speaker: Yeah, their track record's fairly poor post-MCU. like I don't think anything's rated very positively, unfortunately. Yeah, although we did like The Gray Man.

Speaker: If I recall correctly, you liked it. It was fun. I definitely liked it. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah. I'll never forget that movie. I'll never forget that movie, but not the movie, the theater experience.

Speaker: Yeah. That Mr. Stinky feet. Yeah. It was good times. Good times. Cool. Um, my final pick, Simon, not really excited for this, but Hey, it's coming. Uh, Disney's snow white remake coming out on March 21st, 2025. I don't care about this.

Speaker: I never liked snow white. Yeah. Um, I don't give a shit about the controversy. That's ah that has nothing to do with my opinion. I just don't care about Snow White. I don't think it's that great of a story.

Speaker: I didn't like the original animated movie. I still don't like the original animated movie. I don't care about this. It's coming out. It's coming out. What do you think about this movie? Are you excited? You're watch Snow White. You're to Rachel Ziegler as Snow White with Gal Gadot as um ah whatever.

Speaker: me if I got to be real with you. I don't know if I care about the live action situations. That's my issue. I don't have an issue with this. Snow White's one of my favorite Disney movies. so um i My favorite Disney movie of all time, Beauty and the Beast.

Speaker: Didn't see the live action. interest haven't seen it I watched the live action Beauty and the Beast. I think I went with my mom. Yeah, never watched it. And yet, Beauty and the Beast, my favorite Disney movie. So that should tell you whether I'm going see this or not.

Speaker: I might see it because i I think Snow White maybe is my second favorite. It's what the first movie I ever watched, I think, is that like from the Disney canon as a kid. We're like one of the first ones. I loved Aladdin as a kid. like I watched it many times, but Snow White scared me because of the first – the beginning of Snow White, there's a moment with the the woods. that like She's running through the woods in the night and nighttime.

Speaker: It's just very terrifying. and As a kid, it always – it's a core memory for me now. I always think back to that. It's like that's my first horror experience in a movie as a kid. Yeah. yeah and think nothing and That's why you don't like horror.

Speaker: Maybe. Another thing that scared me a little bit is the, you know, Dumbo. You've watched Dumbo. Yeah. I loved that. I loved Dumbo as a kid. I watched the shit out of Dumbo. Right. But there's that scene where ah somehow the, the, the alcohol is hallucinogenic.

Speaker: That also got me a little bit. I was scared. That scared me. I don't know why as a kid, the the elephants were scary. They're like the multicolored elephants and they're like, that was another scene that really scared me as a kid as well.

Speaker: Yeah. So I don't watch that live action remake either. I forgot they even made one. That was a good one though. Cause it's Tim Burton, isn't it? Do you watch it? don't really love Tim Burton movies. Again, I think I've talked about this.

Speaker: Like I, I like some of his movies, but like everyone's like, Oh my God, Tim Burton, he's the greatest. Oh yeah. He's pretty good. I like some of his stuff. I don't like a lot of his stuff. right so But yeah, I never watched it.

Speaker: Did you watch the Aladdin live like by ah Man Richard? The Aladdin live action movie? I didn't know. I haven't seen any of them. Except the Lion King. I think i think Lion King is the only one I've seen.

Speaker: Yeah, I watched Lion King too. the new I don't know. I don't know what this doesn't appeal to me. Honestly, though, I got to be real. Like, Rachel Ziegler and Gal Gadot, to me, they're really well cast. I believe that sincerely.

Speaker: There's also, like, this uproar about people, the dwarves not being dwarves or whatever. Dude, I just recently heard about that, which is fair, I guess. There was also this idea. No, I'm talking about they didn't believe that they were they were going to be dwarves. There was a picture on set, apparently, that was floating around that they were just regular people that weren't actually... They didn't use any CG or they didn't use any costumes or production to make them look like they were the seven dwarves. They were just regular tall people.

Speaker: Oh, and then there was the other thing where people were were saying that this is like you shouldn't cast like this because there's youre there's missed opportunities in the industry because you're not casting people of that stature.

Speaker: Yeah. I actually don't know what the politically correct term like is. I don't remember. So I just said people of that stature ah to make it. I think that's politically correct because it's not really the name of it.

Speaker: If you are of that height and an adult, can you write in for the correct term for us to call you? Please. And thank you. Call you on the phone. We're going to call you during the show. Yeah. Yeah. But no, no. I i mean, no disrespect. But that was an issue. There were there that was a claim there was both claims, though. Do you remember that? There was a Seth photo floating around. And there just like it was Rachel Zegler in a field. And there was a bunch of like regular adult human beings just like standing there. They were all like her height.

Speaker: No, I don't remember that. Oh, they can't even do dwarves. Oh, D-I. Oh, it's woke. That's what they were saying. It's like, I don't even think that's true. And Disney never even answered.

Speaker: Never answered. So it's a woke because they are not dwarves. Yeah. They're regular people. Yeah. Isn't that reverse DEI? don't know. No, no, they weren't.

Speaker: You know what I'm saying? They're in the movie. They were going to be in the movie as regular full size adults. Yeah. I guess it would have been reverse DEI. Yeah. I don't know. They were saying it woke in some way. I don't know, man.

Speaker: Because saying you can't do you can't do dwarves in a movie because it's disrespectful. I don't know. There was some bullshit, but that it went around. That was the main thing. And then there's obviously Rachel Zegler is not like a white person, I guess. So that bothered people. like To me, she looks like – she's a perfect choice to me. She looks like the animated character for me. I think that's really a good choice.

Speaker: Yeah. But I know. That that adam and she's got a great singing voice as well. she Yeah, she does have a really good singing voice. She was great in – the West Side Story.

Speaker: Correct. I saw it on West Side Story. Yeah. Anyway, so I'm excited for this in that i want it to do well because I like the Snow White. I like the Snow White story and I want it to be reviewed well because these these these movies don't get reviewed well very often.

Speaker: they They always do well though. They always do well which is good. That's why they keep making them. That's why they keep making them. But Snow White's one of the most classic Marvel ah marvel movies. Disney movies of all time. yeah She's a superhero. Yeah, we're going to see Snow White in the next Avengers. She's going to be in Secret Wars.

Speaker: It's going to be exciting. Again, i already mentioned this before though. I am excited for the Lilo and Stitch live action movie. going to watch the shit out of that. Okay, good for you. Yeah. I'll come with you if you want.

Speaker: Or just go on a date night and abandon me again. Oh, my God. Bring you back, baby. Bring you back. Okay. The last thing last thing that I'll bring up here is Novocaine.

Speaker: Novocaine comes out March 14th. It stars Jack Quaid. he can't feel pain He can't feel pain, Adrian. Jack Quaid can't feel pain. He gets shot and stabbed and burned and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And it somehow makes him invincible, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I feel like he just, I think he just lose all his blood and die in the first 20 minutes of the movie. But hey, is this movie going to be good? i don't actually think it will.

Speaker: I'm not sure it will. But it doesn't look bad. Jack Quaid, I do like Jack Quaid. I think he does a great job. but Yeah, it's crazy though, because like they, I think they think it's going to do well because they literally did a Super Bowl TV spot for this movie. Crazy, eh? It's nuts, dude.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah. They didn't do one for Snow White. No. Yeah. No, they didn't. But yeah, i'm I'm surprised that you didn't choose Alto Knights. That was also on my list, but I was saving that for you.

Speaker: Robert De Niro, where he's two Robert De Niros. Oh, why were you saving that for me? i don't know. i just assumed you because you like Robert De Niro. I assumed that you would have said that. That's on a March 21st. like for Robert De Niro, but you know what?

Speaker: I didn't see this. I don't know why. The list I was looking at didn't come up with Alto Knights. And it didn't come up, honestly, yeah one of the ones you said. What did you say now? i don't know. You don't remember any of the ones you picked? No, I deleted them. I deleted them. Why? would you delete them? I don't know. Just because I try to keep my phone crystal clean. is all tonates coming out? What the frick? Why didn't it come up?

Speaker: I don't know, Simon. I don't know. I'm shocked by this. deleted photos. I probably would picked that instead of Novocaine, honestly. you I think one of us have to pick Electric State though because that's going to be one of the biggest like blockbuster movies. I chose a Looney Tunes movie and the John Mulaney show.

Speaker: Those are the other two. No, it was Snow White. No, Snow White I didn't see either. That's crazy. The list I'm using is flawed. I need to look at a better list. Yeah, I just looked at Cineplex, Coming Soon.

Speaker: And then I opened the Netflix app and I hit Coming Soon. Yeah, March 21st. Yeah, it does look interesting where plays two different people. Yeah, he's, yeah I'm Robert but De Niro 1 and then the other one's like, I'm Robert De Niro 2.

Speaker: The weird thing is that they're not brothers or anything. I don't think they're related. They're just two different mobsters who are unrelated. yeah It's just the strangest part of it, which is actually more interesting because we've seen this many times. Like if we looked at like, like there's that Tom Hardy movie where plays two brothers, like twins.

Speaker: Yeah, I never watched that, but I know what you're talking about. But this is different than that. I hope it's reviewed well, Alto Nights. I hope it's not. Why? don't know. It's because.

Speaker: Why the hell not? Because it it's better to have better things. It's true. I agree. But I just hope this one this this one specific movie does poorly.

Speaker: I just hope it does. Okay. All right. Well, the last Robert De Niro thing was that Robert De Niro show, which we talked about a couple weeks ago. Which I thought was this movie.

Speaker: I thought these were the same thing. I thought that Robert De Niro show was this movie. And then I realized that it's these are two separate things. I think I even brought it up when we were talking about it. trying to find the name of it. No, I'm talking about the no and that's like the same thing.

Speaker: The Netflix show is about he's he's like he used to be the president of the United States. Yeah, i I didn't know what the premise was of that show. I just I saw the name and I saw Robert De Niro and I'm like, oh, it's the Robert De Niro being to Robert De Niro movie.

Speaker: It's doing really well, though. but Critically? That show is doing well, not critically. It's doing I think it's selling well, like there people are watching it. I think it's it's on Netflix.

Speaker: I can't find the name of it though. I don't know. Whatever. Yeah. You know what show is crazy just before we wrap this up? Paradise. People are really loving paradise. Oh yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. I kept on seeing the ads with it where it's like, I'm going to tell you the secrets. I'm, i'm the president. I'm going to tell you the secrets that nobody ever did. Right. I've never seen the trailer. don't think I've seen anything except the for the actors are really good. Sterling K. Brown and James Marsden.

Speaker: So that that looks really cool because those actors are great. But I don't really have any perspective other than it looks like it's about the White House. It's like, okay. I kept on seeing the trailer. what was watching. People were really freaking out about the penultimate episode. Like the second last episode, I'm pretty sure they were really freaking out about it. They're like, wow, this is the craziest episode of TV I've ever watched.

Speaker: You haven't heard that? No. Social media and stuff? Oh, I haven't heard that now. Okay. Yeah. I was almost tempted to watch it because people were freaking out about how good it was. Should we watch it? You want to watch it together?

Speaker: um How are we going to watch it together? Does Disney do the watch party stuff that Amazon has? Yeah, I think they do. Yeah. You can do that. No, I don't think.

Speaker: Do you really want to do that? that's That's the show you want to do it with? Do it for you. Yeah. I'm trying to find the name of that. Oh, Zero Day. There, I found it. there that i've I've brought this show.

Speaker: I'm glad that you figured that out. anyway Zero Day is the name of the Robert De Niro TV show on Netflix. Took you zero days to figure that out. That's true. Wow.

Speaker: Very clever of you. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, dude. Okay. Well, that that has been episode 105, Adrian. Do you have anything else to say the audience before we wrap this guy up?

Speaker: I think this is all done. No, other than I hate you and I don't i don't want to hear from you. you talking about the audience or Simon? the audience. the audience i i love you, dude. I love chatting with you. had get love spending time with you and talking the audience.

Speaker: Okay. yeah Good to know. What about you? Anything anything else you got to say? No, I've said a lot. I've said a lot. i don't I don't have anything else to say. I just would like to say that I won this ballot, the Oscars ballot, for the second time we've done this. We did this once before, if you remember.

Speaker: And I won it that time, too. yeah i thought you would win this time. i thought I gave you extra time. you didn't even watch it live. You had time to make the ballot. thought you would. i Well, I made the ballot, but prior to the Oscars, Aaron. I wasn't going to do it. i'm not good I'm not a cheater, cheater, pumpkin cheater.

Speaker: Right, yeah. To be honest, I don't think you could do much better than 17 out of 23. I'm surprised I did that well. No, you literally can, Simon. There's 18 out of 23. There's 19 out of 23. Yeah.

Speaker: goes up to 23 out of 23. So you can quite literally do better. Yeah, yeah, that's true. true Yeah, it's true. 13 is not bad, though. I feel like if use bet g MGM or whatever these stupid betting sites, I bet we would have made money with 13 out of 23. What do you think?

Speaker: so That's my 13th reason.

Speaker: thirty What? Yeah, I got 13 out of 23. This is my 13th reason. Lining it up. What? No, I'm just kidding. I'm not. We're good.

Speaker: Wait, is that a reference to the TV show about suicide? Jesus Christ. Did put you on a watch? Like an apple? I like how you clawed it back without really explaining it. You're already like, you know what? That was a bit too far. I don't know if this is a really a good topic. We're gonna have to put it like a suicide, like a get help warning at the beginning of this podcast.

Speaker: If you have had any thoughts like this, you should call this number 1-800. It's 1-866-433-5778. Is that true? No, that's the number for Geek Squad.

Speaker: is that true no that's the number for geek squad Best wise geek squad. Best wise good geek squad. That would be very helpful. Thank you for clarifying though, because what if somebody was in dire straits?

Speaker: they They're on this, listening to this podcast. You know what? This is really depressing. This is a depressing podcast. I got to call this number right now. And they call geek squad. you might And then they definitely would kill themselves. youre Dealing with fucking geek squad.

Speaker: Jesus Christ. You're signing their debt warrant. Yeah. just stuck on the phone for i i was dealing with geek squad actually this is why it's fresh in my mind i've been dealing with geek squad i'm sending in some routers and then i'm sending it my dual sense edge it's it's um the vibration and the triggers not working properly and they analog dual sense edge that's unfortunate wow it's two problems well yeah so i'm sending that in and and my old routers Okay. Are you going to get the Midnight Black Dual Sunset? I am.

Speaker: I am going it. good man. It does look sweet. It looks fresh. It's fresh. Fresh. Just newly released. That's cool. You're going to get new routers? No. Oh, okay.

Speaker: I got the Bell Giga Hub, which is giving me so many issues with my PS5, man. Driving me insane. That's why I'm asking you about the routers. I almost want to get a new router, but it's my PS5. I'm worried because we're going to play It Takes Two together.

Speaker: Yeah, no, and we're we're playing Split Fiction. Oh, whatever. yeah that one. We did play It Takes Two again. we're going to Split Fiction. We're getting phenomenal reviews. But I was trying to download it today because we're we were texting because it's $2 cheaper to buy it physically, which is fucking stupid.

Speaker: But I bought it digitally because you get points back. And technically, it's $1 cheaper because of the points you get back, regardless. But I was downloading on my PS5, and it kept on starting starting to download and then stopping.

Speaker: And my PS5 would disconnect. And then i I had to like reboot my modem, reboot my PS5, and it's just constant cutting in and out. And I'm very worried if we're playing it, I'm going to be cutting in and out.

Speaker: And if that happens, I'm going to bring my PS5 up here into this office. I'm to connect it to this monitor and hardwire it into this fucking router. And we're go to play that goddamn game again. Yeah, it's very exciting. Split Fiction looks really good. It Takes Two is really great as well.

Speaker: um it It Takes Two and Split Fiction, both famously, they're co-op games. You have to play them co-op. But they're also famously made by a man named Joseph Ferris with his studio, Hazelight. And Joseph Ferris was at an award show, with the Video Game Awards, and he amy not recently, but he did say something very specific at this award show. Adrian, what did he say?

Speaker: Fantastic. Fuck the Oscars. Thank you for listening to episode 105 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie, and this is Adrian Pinter, signing off.

Speaker: Take care and goodbye. Goodbye.