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Episode 060 Part 04 - One Battle After Another
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I'm joined by Ed from the Scruffies where we discuss some of this years Oscar Best Picture films. Instead of a single episode, the discussions have been broken up into individual episodes to make them easier to consume without spoiling movies you want to watch.
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Introduction to Paul Thomas Anderson's Films
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Moving forward. let's I want to pick one that... want i don't I want to save some of the the more interesting, crazy stuff. Juicy ones?
00:00:14
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The juicy stuff for later. So i'm going to pick one battle after another next. ah That is the... Paul Thomas Anderson directed. He directed that. And he's known for there will be blood, which I love.
00:00:29
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um And licorice, licorice pizza, which was a nominee a couple of years ago or last year or something, which i could take relief. Paul Thomas Anderson is. He has he has a style and it's he does what he does. yes So I haven't seen.
00:00:49
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Anything of his, I don't think. So this is my first, first one of his. So were we're first step into that world.
00:01:01
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's got, to be it's got, no, no, it's got a pretty, it's got a pretty heavy hitter cast. It's got Leah, Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, Benicio del Toro, um, chase infinity, who I was not familiar with before, but I thought, uh, she did a phenomenal job. Um, from, from Mike, my quick high level,
00:01:21
Speaker
um It was quirky, fun, and uncomfortable at times. Typical Paul Thomas Anderson. um Just like the way, like a so ah Paul Thomas Anderson story structure of just like, you kind of know where it's going, but like it's going to take, it takes some weird beats getting there. um What was your, what was your kind of high level thoughts on it?
00:01:48
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um Obviously, Acting was great. It's cool seeing Sean Penn in a weird role. yeah phily Yeah. Villain kind of crazy role.
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ah The comedy hit perfectly throughout because it's like kind of like a dark-ish comedy.
Film Style and Comparisons
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um Really well done there. ah Feels like a Guy Ritchie movie a little bit sometimes. I was just thinking that, yeah.
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You know, like Lock, Stock, Snatch, where things are happening in different spots and it all comes together. Yes, it's like a diet Guy Ritchie movie.
00:02:31
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Like, it's not quite as like chaotic. Fewer players on the on that board.
00:02:41
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um Yeah, those are those are my high-level thoughts. Alright, now we're going into spoilers, because I don't think we can... There's nothing really to say about this movie that isn't just like... oh Because if you know, because like this is one of those ones. So for for preference, this is one that I would look up absolutely nothing ahead of time.
00:02:58
Speaker
Like just that's what i did. yeah Going completely blind. I think that's the way to watch this, because I think anything else will will will taint kind of like.
00:03:10
Speaker
the the story beats, the kind of the chunks of it, like you need to kind of be with, with those moments to kind of progress. So I, but I wanted to know one thing. I knew, wanted to know one thing that it was filmed in the desert, some of it, because I'd seen some like behind the scenes of Leonardo in a desert or something.
00:03:31
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That was it i knew e leonardo the I knew Leonardo DiCaprio was in it. And like from the poster, I thought it was going to be more like a blood diamond or like any, anything like that. And it's just like bonk, bonk, bonk. Nope. It's not surprise idiot.
00:03:49
Speaker
Like, especially, especially the beginning where it's like, the hell is going on? Is this now? Is this now time? Is this this in the past? what what yeah it's like Don't worry about it. No Country for Old Men, something kind of like that. oh yeah because like Western, I don't know.
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but that it's I'm going to say kind of hits home with current events a little bit.
Character Analysis and Performances
00:04:14
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you know it does It does. It's like it did, but like there were times where I feel like I personally was taken out of the movie a little bit. I'm like,
00:04:24
Speaker
am I supposed to be like linking this with something specifically? Like I get the vibes of what they're getting at, but then other times where I'm like, I feel like the work, like they keep using words and terminology. I'm like, am I supposed to be like understanding?
00:04:41
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Like, is this an allegory? Is this like, no, it's not. I think they filmed this before any of the current shit that's going down with the border and stuff. And, and,
00:04:54
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the earlier in the movie it had a lot to do with that. Yeah. um
00:05:01
Speaker
that's But I couldn't help but think about it. And I was like, what the fuck? Well, it's like it's like it it kind of like it doesn't go hard in the paint at that But it's like, it just kind of keeps bumping up against it. Like, you know where it stands in like the themes, but it's not about the stuff that we're dealing with with modern i modern day issues and ice and those things like that. It's like, it's a part of the story kind of like, just wrap it's not the story.
00:05:31
Speaker
It's the, the, the rebellion was part of part of it, but it's more, I think it was more about the daughter, right? Following. her journey. Yeah. it's I think, I think it's mostly about Leonardo DiCaprio being like a, a, a shitty, a shitty person. Degenerate dad. Degenerate dad.
00:05:54
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Willa being ah an independent teenager and like, who's she going to become protecting her from that and her dumb ass dad. And then Sean being an Sean Penn being an absolute psychopath.
00:06:10
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closed off repressed idiot and just so good that man that his acting ah something i don't know what he's nominated for but at whatever it is he should win it is there an oscar for best villain i mean i could i could i bet he maybe got best supporting love i don't think all right uh oscar best supporting probably would be but he has to be best supporting actor because like I wanted to be like, how is he so red? like He nails that like repressed right wing, kind of like just like holding his breath, angry, and like about to cry all the time. like like just Dude, he played that so well.
00:06:56
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It's like, oh my gosh. and at the end, when his face is deformed, still portraying happiness and you know like jovialness through that because he thought he was in a good place. Super spoilers.
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That ending. like That ending ending. Not like the ending of Willa and Leo. Bob. bo think Bob's name is Bob. The ending of Sean Penn's character. whole Dude. saw coming.
00:07:26
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did too. He was walking near it. Yeah, when he was in the office and I was like, I thought in my head, I'm like, I can't say it because Madison has no idea. She's like, oh my God, he gets a corner office and it's like, no, that door had a seal. Dude, there's no one else in the fucking building. There's something wrong.
00:07:46
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Yeah. Oh my gosh, that was... I totally yeah knew it. I'm like, was going be gas or like temperature. Something's going to happen in there. So Benicio Gildoero and Sean Penn are both nominated for Best Supporting Actor.
00:08:00
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in this as they should be As they should be. Yeah, yeah because I thought Benicio also did a very good job. with a He leaned more into the comedy side of it. I thought like the things the scenes he was in, you almost laughed a little bit because he was like reacting to Leonardo's character just being a dipshit, like an idiot.
00:08:23
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Well, I believe a lot of his character was like improv'd. like ah And I think he was giving a lot of leeway with it. and i think that's where get a lot of the guy richie vibes it's like well because frankie five finger frankie four fingers is uh coming in but he's like the stable one when i thought was really good about his character was it to me i just have having these vibes of like leo and like the french 75 are like the loud outspoken ah
00:08:54
Speaker
Like kind of group that is like the face and they're like the loudest and most protesting, but like, they're also super ineffective. And like most things, they're just a cluster. But then you have like Benicio and, and like the underground movement, yeah the, the underground, the, like the kind of the Mexico underground movement. Kind of things. And it's like, and they're all regimented, structured, well put together. They have systems in place. They're like, and it's just watching these two chaotic worlds collide with like, I'm doing the right thing. I'm a revolutionary. I have a burner phone and this. And, and like, he's just a cluster. And then Benicio is just like, Nope, get these like 300 people out of here. do do do do do It's like, that's a cool, like contrast comparing trust, but still his character, the sensei is what we're talking. Benicio plays ah a sensei.
00:09:44
Speaker
karate guy. For most of it, he's the so he's he's like an embodiment of safety. You're with him, you're safe. But then they they get in that car and then he tells Bob, leonarda car ne Leonardo's character, to like just fucking jump out. and just like You're like, wait, what? like Suddenly his character, Benicio's character, is like wild and crazy. like Just fucking jump out He gets pulled over and he's giving shit to the cop. And it's like, what just happened?
00:10:19
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Well, he he very much has like combat brain. It's like, it's like he he knew what was coming. Like he, the cop, the cops were chasing him. It's like, you need like for the cause you need to get out of here. Like it was very like matter of fact, it's like, I'm in a stressful situation. I'm not panicking. It's just like,
00:10:37
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jump out of the car, Bob. Like now the jump out of the car, eventually very like jerking the jerking the wheel and flipping him out of the car. And then just like fucking with the cops. Cause he can, it's like, it's just, it's ah that it's all planned though. He's doing that all on purpose and it's great. I fucking love it.
Chaotic and Unpredictable Narrative
00:10:57
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hello It's like, Oh, it's so funny. and ah The, the part where they're running across the rooftops, uh,
00:11:04
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and like Leo falls. then he falls. That's so funny. That's like, oh, it's an escape scene. That's the definition. i mean, minus him not remembering the code on the phone. That's like the definition of his character.
00:11:21
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Bob is an idiot. well because I think that's the thing that's funny about this is like you think you know where it's going, like a typical heist style movie, kind of go go get them, rescue the the the daughter, the child kind of thing. But like Bob is so incompetent.
00:11:37
Speaker
They're like, he, he is his own problem. It's like, I'm going to, I'm going to go them. I'm going run with these people. And then I don't make the jump when I fall through a tree and man on the ground to get tased and arrested. Yeah. Like that's. And he, even when he was younger, like when they were succeeding in their little rebellion, um,
00:11:56
Speaker
The way he, cause he was like the pyrotechnics guy, the demolition guy. Explosives guy. Yeah. yeah And even the way he was doing it and they were succeeding, it seemed like, like he was being lucky. You know what I mean? Like he was just had luck on his side and he was like, Oh yeah, I'll just do this. And then, Oh, there it is. He,
00:12:20
Speaker
the character reminds me so much of like, I don't say this like, and teasing. people in my past, but it's like, it just reminds me of that friend that like, you really don't want a around when you were like in high school or whatever, but like, you can't not invite them. And like, they may be, they do bring something to the, to the group. It's like, but to you, it's like, that's not enough, but like, it's, it's not worth the hassle of like telling them to not be here. Like he very much reminded me of that. It's like, he is an absolute mess. Cause he's not even like a pyrotechnics guy. He was a fireworks. Like he shot fireworks off.
00:12:55
Speaker
Like, over... yeah Whatever. i has He has... He has... It's it's like I related to Dungeons & Dragons for the nerds out there. He has high intelligence because he's knowledgeable in what he's doing.
00:13:10
Speaker
Like, he knows yeah the facts of what he's doing. But his wisdom is fucking low. yeah He doesn't make the right choice. He's a really smart, dumb guy. Yeah.
00:13:24
Speaker
yeah Like he's not like he's. And then I did then in the later half, that like the other rest of the movie, he's just burnt out. And he had fully he fully admits it. He's like, i've been drinking and like a fried my brain. Bad choices. not doing this anymore. I'm at bad choices. I don't remember the passcode for the for the phone for the phone riddles that that might be funny.
00:13:46
Speaker
Like if I ever get tasked with like, hey, what's a. Like, can you do like an ah impromptu monologue from like a movie that like maybe somebody won't get or will get it? Like, I wish I had that whole phone conversation memorized.
00:14:01
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Like, so I could just recite it. I think that'd be so funny. That'd be one of stupid things to have memorized. Like, I don't know what time it is. Like, it's so funny. and and And what's funny is he never ends up remembering it.
00:14:16
Speaker
Ever. He does in the entire movie. it Like, there's his friend who's like, wait, you're talking to this guy? Fucking give him the info. Like, like like it's it's it's just funny. I don't know. I apologize sincerely.
00:14:31
Speaker
well ah it's it's ah It's a ridiculous movie. It's the first thing you learn when you join the rebellion. You've got to learn these three lines, and he didn't. yeah it's a it's I will say it's a stressful movie, ah like an emotionally stressful movie because it does touch on – it touches close to real-life stressful things, but I think it it does a good job at – towing that line. Sean Penn way too good in that role, so good but it is funny. It is stressful. um
00:15:05
Speaker
The cinematography in it is wild to me. like he's He's so good almost on like a Christoph Waltz level in Inglourious Bastards where like you see his mannerisms in his face and eyes and emotions and it like makes you disgusted with him a little bit.
Cinematography and Sound Design
00:15:25
Speaker
you know A lot whatever. yeah and it's just like It's just a credit to his acting. It's so good.
00:15:33
Speaker
Well, it reminded me like, like with Christoph Waltz, it reminded me of ah Heath Ledger as the Joker. It's like that too. He has, he has to be method because it just feels so ingrained and real.
00:15:47
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um Especially the stuff with like spoilers, like the weird, like Illuminati, like the white and nationalist cult thing he was kind of a part of, but not like,
00:16:00
Speaker
Christmas thing or whatever. Yeah, the the bad... there I remember what it was called, but was weird. Yeah, that's a yeah that a crazy... That leaned towards the comedy part, like the silliness, which was kind of funny.
00:16:16
Speaker
And that that ended up getting towards the end of the plot, where everything just ends up coming together. Very Guy Ritchie style of like, we're gonna... yeah but much more cinema, uh, much better cinematography. Like Guy Ritchie's like her up close, like hallways, backs of vans. Ridiculous. I think, swallow ridiculous but it was a little more. Yeah. This is like an open air Guy Ritchie kind of style. Um, the, the cinematography, especially at the end when they're doing the car chase, I don't know what it is about it, but I was like, I love this.
00:16:56
Speaker
Like, mounting the camera to like the bumper of the car and going over these like rolling hills. So you're just like right off the pavement and you're chasing the car and it's just like, whoop, whoop. Like you're on a swing set and just barely seen the car and you go back down under the hills. Like that was, I i loved that for some reason. It just stuck with me.
00:17:17
Speaker
So I could be wrong cause I'm going out on a limb here and I'm thinking I might be wrong, but, I think what made those scenes towards the end really good it also is the lack of music in the background. think there was no music. I'm trying to think.
00:17:34
Speaker
yeah i could be I think you're right. is Or like a little amount of music. And it made it feel more real. Which is weird because music does help. We love John Williams, obviously. everything all Soundtracks are awesome. But sometimes a lack of so soundtrack can really make it feel real.
00:17:54
Speaker
100% agree. Like silence goes a long way. or summer Which will come later in a movie we're going to talk about. that' boy i'm I'm so excited. i think I think I know which one you're talking about. And um maybe we should maybe we should talk about that one next. I don't know You get to pick the next one. but all right what is your or what um Any other thoughts on one battle after another?
00:18:16
Speaker
If not, recommendations and score. I do have a thought. I just wanted your take on and on Perfidio. So that was Willow's mother. Oh, I fucking hate that character.
00:18:31
Speaker
i I know. not I'm with you. I'm with you. i'm with i know I know. I'm with you. But she lives, correct? like she She just like escapes the witness protection. She's hiding. she's she's She's hiding, yeah. Yeah. Pardon me. Go ahead. Go ahead.
00:18:49
Speaker
I was bummed like she was never united with Willa when she was older. You know what I mean um I just wanted... that That's it.
00:19:00
Speaker
i'm just I was bummed about it. I thought they were goingnna like she was going to show up at the end, but never. It was just some letter she wrote like a while ago. At first, I didn't like the letter because I'm like, she was a piece of shit and like it is ingrained.
00:19:17
Speaker
It ingrained into like and And that's
Character Arcs and Potential Redemption
00:19:20
Speaker
me being judgmental. It's like ah the, the, her things that are important to her, i think or makes her a piece of shit. And like, if when first one, like the letter, I'm like, don't redeem her. Let her just be who she is. But then it's like, you know what? wanted That's what I wanted.
00:19:37
Speaker
But that, but then the more I kind sat on them, I'm like, you know, it is nice not hating her and having, Like acknowledgement. Like it doesn't, it's not a redemption. It's not a like coming back and like getting the hug and being like, I'm so sorry. I was a piece of shit. I'm, I'm, I created you, you monster. And I'm so sorry. I'm dying now. Not, it's not Frankenstein. It's like, no, I'm sorry. I'm a piece of shit.
00:20:02
Speaker
Maybe one day we'll see each other. Cause I literally can't come back home because they will get me. And I am a fugitive on the run. um I acknowledge it and maybe someday you'll come find me. I thought that was like, and you know, I like that. I'm like, I, yeah, I, I do not need a one battle after another part two at all. Please don't. No, no, no, no, no. no no I don't want that.
00:20:26
Speaker
But I do feel like they could have ended her arc a little more. ah for For like a satisfaction sake, I get it why they didn't. But like, that was the one thing at the end I was like, like hanging on a cliff for it like, i was like, come on.
00:20:46
Speaker
I would have loved it. Now that you're saying this, I'm starting to think it's like, I would have loved if they would have like, while they're reading the letter out loud, if they would have done like a a transition shot to perfidia, wherever she is. And you can just tell she has her life and shit together.
00:21:01
Speaker
Yeah, something like that. I think that or her plan to mail her something or I don't know. like Like it shows her like it maybe it shows her writing the letter like like as she's reading it And it's like but you can just visual visually tell that's like she's a different person now and not just writing the letter out of selfishness. um because maybe that's i think that's the headspace i was in for a minute and i'm like oh it's so selfish to be like oh i miss you i'm not you know i left but i'm sorry but i can't come back like it felt very much like this is about me and not about you but then the longer i sat with it the more like no maybe she did change but i wish they would have shown it more and then it was about the the only reason that she didn't come back was like because she physically freaking can't um
00:21:45
Speaker
I wouldn't have needed even that. I just needed something. Because the last time you saw her was in the first third of the movie, right?
00:21:57
Speaker
which left when When she left and when she en ratt it and ratted him out, man. Yeah. and And I was like, just look like anything. Yeah. Like like she more sheled like a visual anything, not just the letter.
00:22:12
Speaker
because i thought i that was She did a great job acting. that was ah she's and And her character was so good at leading and being the rebel and and ah pushing against authority that you'd think her character would be smart enough to come around and come back to her daughter, right? that's that's how i like She's intelligent enough to figure that shit out. like Come on.
00:22:37
Speaker
Well, the fact that we don't have like any sense of time... like Like I could, I just kept getting so confused. I'm like, what year is this supposed to be? Like, and so maybe that was intentional of like, there's gotta be technology besides those little like beeping sound one things that were pretty neat.
00:22:54
Speaker
Yeah, because how old Willa, right? Willa at that point is probably like 17, 16. She's 16 or 17, I believe. And so it had been 16 years, and then like back in before the shoot she was born was like, is this modern times? It kind of feels like the 70s and 2020 all at the same time.
Setting and Narrative Complexity
00:23:11
Speaker
ah And then now it's in the future, so like you think there'd be technology, but it's also...
00:23:17
Speaker
That's me getting into the Star Wars Rise of Skywalker and be like, I need the footnotes. I need the footnotes. Explain shit to me. um need the answers. know what I've been cool? fucking Show her in freaking Africa helping the rebels there. against the you know i mean like Show her somewhere doing something.
00:23:37
Speaker
I don't know. i'm just i'm just i'm just I don't need it, I guess. but it's It's for some reason at the end of the movie that's all I can think about is something that annoys Hey, that's what we're here to do. Otherwise, loved it.
00:23:51
Speaker
Yeah, but the movies can't be perfect. There has to be things that we think we would do differently and that would have made us feel better. But, you know. Do you think... but The thing I take away from this movie, too, is, you know, if I became an actor, if I was an actor, like Leo, bit like, bit long shot, if I just go straight to the top, do you think they have somebody that teaches you how to, like,
00:24:17
Speaker
blow smoke out of your nose and then like re-inhale it and then blow back out again or do you think that's just something people picked up in their life like hey i can already do that right like hey we need you just we need you to like smoke a lot and then they just do it or do you think it' eat that's assuming that's not cgi as well so i do not ruin this for me because i like the picture that they can all do it and it bums and it bums me out that i can't because i don't really like smoke and i'm like Dude, I... Yeah, i don't either, but it would be cool if I could. It almost makes me want to smoke because it's like, I've i've come full circle. like I'm like, dude, smoking is fucking cool in movies. Like, it's... Like, I don't want to do it. You think it's cool? Fucking movies. That's why. yeah It's like like, damn, that is... That has an effect. It's like, is there a way I could just learn that?
00:25:05
Speaker
Like, if I became an actor, could they just teach it to me? Like, I'm an extra... can you can i Can I jump in on that session and just like learn real quick? but the little With a little fake... I don't know. It's just something... that said back of my mind Yeah, all that. It's impressive.
00:25:21
Speaker
You learn how to do smoke rings. I'll learn how to do the... the the the last life the Last ah thought. I want your thoughts on this. Did you get any Andor vibes off this?
00:25:35
Speaker
Yeah, if Andor was like...
00:25:40
Speaker
Like if Andor had a flat tire, and you're just kind of going, like that's kind of that's kind of how I feel. Andor is like the F1, zip around the track, like tight.
00:25:54
Speaker
It's the story, the beats. You got the you got the guy with the manifesto, ding ding ding, ding, ding, hitting all the beats. This is like driving like a Geo Metro with a flat tire around the race course. Just like that.
00:26:07
Speaker
Yeah. bu but but bump and just That's kind of. Yeah. and Yes. no Fucks up. Also here in there. Cassian. I'm talking. Leonardo has some comparisons, but he's more of a. idiot Pretty sure.
00:26:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And or wasn't running around in a bathroom. But yes, I do get to. I mean, seriously, do get the same like vibes of like. I don't know what that kind of style is where it's a.
00:26:34
Speaker
the hunt, like there's multiple hunts going on. Like, ah it's like a a race, a race to the MacGuffin. It's not even a MacGuffin. It's like the, the race to the, the princess.
00:26:45
Speaker
Um, yeah, but she was also already captured. And also what happened to, ah Oh, the role for scary movie. Like she, she just going to jail. Like, is that, she's just gone. She's done. Right. She got arrested. That's a, that's what we know.
00:27:01
Speaker
That's it. Well, like we're, But were are they... Did they have... She was sitting with her at the table, right? and at the At the convent thing? Are you talking about her? The one that was sitting with her at the table? and was Yeah, and they showed her in the car with all the DGN paramilitary dudes. But then it kind of got into that, like, do you have jurisdiction? like is are they Do they have the ability to arrest? I don't know. I...
00:27:29
Speaker
They're kind of police, but they're also kind of like border agents. Ice. It got weird. I was like, dude oh, we just not going to come back to her. dude. Yes. She disappeared. got arrested She disappeared. Yeah. ah Scary to think about.
00:27:46
Speaker
But yeah, we don't know what happens to her. No, we don't know. Just got to wait for part two. The next battle after the other. Fuck. Please no.
00:27:58
Speaker
No, that'll make no money.
Sequel Potential and Awards Discussion
00:28:01
Speaker
That was stressful enough as was. Because this movie was bad. This movie was actually really good. I'm just saying it doesn't need another one. It's just it's a nice package on its own. It doesn't need a continuation, yeah which is fine. I know a lot of people don't like that idea, but.
00:28:18
Speaker
I think, feel pretty strongly about this one. Does not need a 2-0 part 2. It's not like a solo 2 situation.
00:28:31
Speaker
You're trying to decipher whether I'm joking or not. I can tell. No, I was trying to i'm trying to come up with a stupid title for it. like Not a bit.
00:28:42
Speaker
It's like... no can't no I recently watched Solo, Star Wars, a solo story. um It was good. I liked it. Moving on. Did you watch it on good TV? My girls watched it with me. They're 10 years old and they absolutely loved it and loved Kira as well.
00:29:01
Speaker
I love Kira too. no Me too. i would love I wish I could see the old the old villain. like The lion-headed whatever. Not Mr...
00:29:14
Speaker
Line scarred on his face, dude. Not Dryden Voss? Oh, Dryden Voss. Okay. i would yeah I would just be curious to see what the original was going to look like. the Oh, with what's his name? Michael. Yeah, before he died. he died, right?
00:29:29
Speaker
The guy from mom ah Omar from fucking The Wire. Oh, is that who it is? Right? Yeah. Yeah. Omar.
00:29:40
Speaker
He was going to be dried rough. I'm taking that as fact. Fucking awesome. Because I don't do corrections. I just stick with it and believe it. And take this just carry it forward. It's fact. Google it, baby.
00:29:55
Speaker
Duck, duck, duck. Anyway, we keep hitting Star Wars because we're both super Star Wars fans. We can go back to the Oscar shit. We got to dip our toe in Star Wars to get familiar...
00:30:06
Speaker
You know, we don't want to stray too far away from the like the familiar surroundings, you know. Otherwise, it seems like we're true shills of the Oscars and things like that. don't want to be too high minded here.
00:30:19
Speaker
We're just like general shills. yes Yeah. Yeah. Just just that. All right. So recommendation and score for one battle after another. What do you think? I can go first if you want me to No, I'll go first.
00:30:35
Speaker
I'll say definitely watch it. I think it's really good. I i think the title doesn't give it justice. Because I was thinking about the title, and you can chime in if you want and make it sound better to me, but I don't think it... I get it. It's like he is like another one after another.
00:30:59
Speaker
ah But it doesn't advertise the movie well enough to me. like because i like When it came out, I was like, what the fuck is that? One battle after another? like What? Okay.
00:31:11
Speaker
Whatever. This day after tomorrow or whatever it is? like Yeah, like what what's going on? ah I recommend it. i do. and I get it you don't When you see the trail you when you see like clips from it and you're like, what the fuck is this?
00:31:28
Speaker
I get it. Just fucking watch it and it's going to be good. and I give it 8.5. 8.5. Nice. I gave it i gave it a 7.5, which I'm starting to regret. I want to put Frankenstein down to 7.5 and I'll move this up to an 8.
00:31:47
Speaker
Oh, shit! Nice. i because i Because I think after talking about it, I think that i think that helps change it. it's like I think if somebody is interested in getting into... Like, cause some of these are pretty like Oscar best in the picture nominee, heady, weird artsy film. Like, I think this is a good entry point.
00:32:04
Speaker
Like, um, besides F1, it's like, if you want to like more than F1 and more than Frankenstein, I think this is like a step in that direction of like, I don't want to go like full weird, full whatever.
00:32:17
Speaker
Um, I think this is a good, this is a good, like, I don't know. It's approachable. um My recommendation is ah Yeah i think I think it's approachable i think you should watch it um If you are uncomfortable with Any of the current modern day stuff Like if that's just like a no go for you Then I would not watch it Cause it's Yeah it does a lot of Immigration shit that goes on in it So But other than that I think it's good i think it's I think it's a good fun watch I think it's like You don't need a lot of answers It's Leonardo DiCaprio I'm like
00:32:52
Speaker
It's Leo playing Leo, being silly. Sean Penn is phenomenal. The cinematography is pretty crazy. If anything, watch it for him. Like, goddamn.
00:33:03
Speaker
so who If you like a good villain, Sean Penn. If you like a good villain, fucking watch this movie. In the year of Our Lord 2026, it's finally nice to have a a a villain that I don't have any sympathy for.
00:33:19
Speaker
Like, I'm so... Like, i'm it's so refreshing to have a take on a villain who's just like, no, they're just a piece of shit. Like, there is no follow through. I would say in a movie, yes, there's still one villain that is just so good.
00:33:37
Speaker
And it's Anthony Starr's Homelander. He just does it so well. Oh, yeah. He's so good. Anyway, sorry.
00:33:49
Speaker
He is like, he's like the epitome. He's like the end of the number line. Like when when I have to Google whether the actor isn't a dipshit, that's how you know it's a good fucking villain and he acts it very well.
00:34:05
Speaker
He's like, he's like ah an adult Joffrey, but like. Exactly. Yes. Joffrey was so good too. Yeah.