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A Solid 4 Beer Thoughts - Indy Week 2025
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Tonight we have AS$ race correspondent Bryce Dinninger and spotter for the #14 car, plus special guest Byar (friend of the show Bryan) talking about the Penske bombshell as well as all things racing! RIP Jim Irsay, we love our Colts! Joke of the week with Brett and some Indy 500 trivia with Lynk!
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Introduction and Guest Introduction
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A solid four beer thoughts. Pop a cold one and get interactive with us on YouTube, Facebook, X, or Instagram. Hey, and away we go. Another episode of a solid four beer thoughts. Welcome. Glad you joined us. um We're in Speedway with the garage door closed because it actually got a little bit chillier than Jeff's mom's basement this week. So Jeff didn't want to have hard nipples all night.
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So he closed the garage door. But ah anyhow, a table full of guests. And so tonight we're going to be talking to Bryce Dininger once again, a solid four race correspondent, as he's been officially dubbed, getting ready for the big day this Sunday.
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And we'll be talking a lot about that. These guys are like having watch sex over across the table there. I don't know. Wonder Twin Towers. That's kind of weird shit. Wonder Twin
Breaking News: Jim Irsay's Passing
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Towers. And then, of course, ah a friend of the show by our better known as brian um but we we call him by our because a long time ago a fifth beer thought and uh uh matt the big cat um decided to start calling him by our so it's stuck like so many things do around here i thought if i was quiet about it long enough it would pass but apparently that no that doesn't work around here oh don't you know that by now
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don't you know tom denit uh this is why this is why it doesn't end it never ends anyhow we will have a brief uh this week in history but for the first time ever i think in the history of this podcast oh we actually have breaking news oh yes oh yeah cold vote yeah it did just just moments before we started recording this episode colts owner jim ursay passed away quietly in his sleep taking a nap up in carmel apparently so uh Yeah, big big hit to the Colts organization, and I'm sure there's going to be more to come on that, but... ah
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not Not always do we get a breaking news story just as start recording. As a matter of fact, not ever until now. Since this isn't live, it won't be breaking. Well, it's breaking for us as we're recording. so Usually we're the ones broken. Yeah. that's Now we're breaking the news. so Look at us go. So anyhow, but here we are.
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Norm died, too. Well, we'll talk about that. Isn't that part your this week in history? Nope. Nope. Left it out? Let's do it. Nice. This is May, dude. Anyhow, so are we going to go straight into this week in history?
Weekend Activities Recap
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We could. Jeff, did you do anything fun over the weekend? Oh, I had a blast this week. What'd you do?
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He listened to this week in history. Yes. He made it up. down ah Flew down to Fort Myers Beach. Oh, you did? For a long weekend, yes. Oh, wow. Flew out on ah Friday about noon.
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Yeah. Was on the beach by about five. My high club? ah No. Sorry, Link. Sorry, Link. Link looked the other way. I was, I got a question for Jeff. I was flying jump. Uh, yeah. So a good friend of mine is jump.
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is that and then That's also called bitch. coppiott yeahpilot whatever Yeah. Yeah. Handy. Yes. So we, would a friend of mine two or three weeks ago says, Hey, I want to go down the weekend before the race.
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He's having some small health issues. He says, I just want to go down there, sit on the beach for three days. so short joke no Yeah, ah drink beer and do nothing, and we're go out eat good food, and that's what we did. got down there Friday at about...
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Five? Yes. Did you eat octopussy down Yes, we did. Yes. He's not going to stop. You know that. Yes, we that. Yeah, he's in his element right now. He is absolutely... He's on go.
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iss It's race week. He's on go. So Tom wasn't with you? No. Okay. This is going to be him until like Tuesday of next week. Hotter than three hells down there. Yeah. Oh, good. ah But it was awesome. Oh.
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Sat on the beach Saturday, Sunday. Oh, you should have seen me. I don't want to. And and I usually... tan very well sun doesn't sure you do but really not the first time every year saturday i didn't lather up the second time i was toasted uh so yeah we went down there for a long weekend flew out on monday it was a perfect amount of time on the beach and yeah it was good time fort myers is still devastated yeah yeah it's still still mess from that hurricane right it's yeah but yeah it's going to be a while before they get back to get it back
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Hey, Jeff, can I ask? Sure. Is it Lonnie Kai still? Yes, it is still standing. Oh. It is still standing. So we usually went down. Whenever we went down on spring break, we always went over the bridge, turned left.
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Lonnie Kai is right there. This time we went we went towards the pink shell, went down, turned right. And there was nobody down there. it was It was nice. Walked into restaurants. There were eight of us at 5 o'clock, 6 o'clock.
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No wait. Got seated. got seated me Yeah, food was good. Sun was good. Yeah, a good time. Awesome. Awesome. Anything good for you? Nope. Nope. Had nothing. Bryce had a qualifying weekend, so that was half the weekend.
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Yeah, part of it. I went and golfed on Sunday. I got off the golf course. Breakyard again? I missed a lot. No, can Twin Bridges out in Danville. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I avoided the Speedway on Sunday, and so we can get into that a little bit. That's a good choice. I missed a lot on Sunday.
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Yeah, you did. Sounds like you did. It was a full day of information. Bob. yeah yeah yeah ye How about you, Brett? Anything good? Yeah, we... I went to track. It was painful on Sunday. Yeah.
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I mean, always a good time, but... Somehow I knew you were going to be there. Let's let's wrap that into a three-hour segment, not a 19-hour segment. It's ridiculous. Bayar. Bayar, how about you? I'm still working through my spring to-do list.
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i've got Since I live in India, I don't get to take a race trip in May. Who's on that, Bayar? So I... On what? you On your to-do list. It's an endless ah list. Whoa, I'm sure it is. Not too detailed here. yeah Okay.
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Wow. So I've got a super late model dirt race trip coming up in a couple of weeks after. are you going? ah We've got a 10-day series up in Pennsylvania, Maryland, New York.
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So we'll be headed out there early in June. And I've got a list of things to finish up before I can go. good man all right tell me what'd you do i played golf on saturday no i played golf on saturday yeah that was fun where'd you play uh out at uh saddlebrook how many people died uh zero how many houses hit hate it hey i netted this is how we this is 56 yes yeah ball football football no no no thank you sorry west chase that's where we play um we're We played at West Chase. um
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I don't know why I had Saddlebrook in my head. but Because you found a Saddlebrook ball and you played it. No, what's funny is I did find a lot of balls. um because Yeah, you did because you don't eat octopus. We were keeping track.
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We were keeping track, and ah I actually went home with two more than I started with. That's a good day. so there were We were finding random golf balls like just left there and... normal place and was like that's how i judge my golf experience how many balls did i go plus yeah yeah and then we took the kids to back nine saturday night oh wow and yeah sunday i just sat around and ached i was gonna say that's all your back your back was sore i know my shoulders hurt like okay swallowed a bunch of tylenol and no i didn't take any time i just sat around are you toughed through it i don't take a lot of painkillers stuff i those aren't painkillers but well they're pain numbers but yeah yeah i'm not i'm just not that guy so yeah
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yeah got it suffered through it it was good so good but it's now time for whatever but so kidding i mean technically it's this month in history well it is now i've got said so i got a bunch of trivia questions oh oh so i gotta think it's not really i mean it's so oh anyway are they all in utah No, they're off to do an Indy 500 racing
Indy 500 History and Trivia
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history.
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Oh. So we all we all know the first Indy 500 was in 1911. Yeah. Won by Ray Haroon. Yeah. Anybody know the winning average speed? In 1911? 1911. 79.07. 669 miles an hour. it. 57.6. A little faster than the Lotus a few years ago.
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miles and hour got it fifty seven point six a little faster than the lotus a few years ago
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Yep, I think the answer is close. Yep, that's it. price hit it. 74.6. There you go. Cool. Very first Indy 500. Wow. 500 miles is what they average. That was lightning fast back then. Hell yeah, it You better have brought a big cooler out there that day. Yeah, right? So, here's the thing. going to run through some of these, but... ah if you want to know answers because i've got a i've got a bunch of stuff okay so i'm just gonna let's go go let's go let's go the the first first four original owners of the racetrack yeah chevrolet nope allison yep wheeler they're all street names and yep and their school names i believe too which is which yeah cool
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yeah so james allison uh frank wheeler arthur newby and carl fisher right so yeah um but but then who purchased the speedway in 1927 eddie rickenbacker yep there you go uh what year tony holman purchased the speedway you the year 46 it's close 46 47 45 yeah it's been the 40s yep the first event
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yeah ah the first event ever no held at the hot moon race not blue Did you guys know the, uh, so it's weird though. We're sort of minimizing this cause we, we know this, correct but it's crazy that they build a two and half mile track.
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for car testing purposes and the first thing that happens there is a hot air balloon race is before the track was finished yes they originally wanted a five mile course uh so then they i think they went with they said okay how about a three mile course with a five mile road course on the inside And then the three-mile course would have put it up to the edges of the property.
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yeah So then they said, let's dial it down two and a half. Then we could put grandstands around the so main straits and the outside. And that's basically what it ended one these guys was a bicycle guy.
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had none I believe so, yes. So the the balloon race, three competitors took off at 3.45 p.m., followed by six more at 5 p.m. They covered 378 miles from Indianapolis over to Fort Payne, Alabama.
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Wow. That's what the balloon race is. What? I didn't know. Holy cow. It wasn't around that time. Well, you can't go around in circles. Well, you could. Okay. You're a victim of the wind. Hang on. wasn't a So you sign up. I'm like, I'm gonna buy a ticket to this shit.
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You see him take off and that's it. And then they're gone. You can go to the airport today for that. You don't see the finish. That plane left. It's gone. It's gone. Can I ask you, how the Chinese balloon do?
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but It stayed up forever. Until until the U.S. shot it down, yeah I believe. Right? And that's the way it went. Still going up and down the East Coast, taking pictures. yeah the So in December 1909 is when they opened. That before the first 500. How many bricks did they? 3.2? Yeah, exactly right. 3.2. Yeah.
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and I knew that one. Look at that. ah to to to to but But they put bricks down for a reason, for safety. It was originally crushed stone and tar, and it didn't go real well. didn't work out. So, yeah. Yeah.
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they uh yeah was it the cars not politically in fact they were going to pull pull their whatever you call it racing license or whatever they're like yeah you're not racing here anymore so was it the culver brick company i believe so yeah well they're all made in there's a there's a brick inside the house here um from yeah yep cool uh the museum building and turn one racetrack varies so how anybody know how wide the track is it's it's two It's two. So straightaways are one. About three cars?
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Used to be wider. yeah Yeah. Wide. Not white. Because technically asphalt. So it's insane. yeah Now it's 50 feet wide in the straightaways, 60 feet in the turns. That's all. Really?
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Wow. So, yeah. And then I get... Sit down. Relax. ah what What about the banking? You may know the banking. Thirteen. Thirteen. but What's that? Nine degrees. Yep.
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Nine degrees, 12 minutes, according to Brett. Two car numbers have won the race 11 times each. Which two car numbers have won the race? That's the most of any car number.
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Three is one of them.
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Fourteen. Fourteen. No. no um That's what my current wife said, too. I wish it was 14. That was just AJ. It just seems like an easy answer. absolutely He's won four times, and he's had 14 forever. 22. One? two one No.
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it Close. Close. Two? Yep. Two and three. Two and three. Two and three won the race 11 times. Okay. Which driver had the most starts before their first victory?
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You guys care about any this at all? Yeah, absolutely. This is good stuff. This is good. and so um Sam Hanks. i have Very good. Sam Hanks had 13 starts, and his first victory was in 1857. Tied for second were Tony Kanaan, Joseph Newgarden.
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Kanaan had 12 starts. Well, yeah, they both had 12 starts. ah Most races between victories. Juan Pablo Montoya. Exactly.
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Did Kanaan pass inspection that year? He said that so definitively. Wow. you killed one pablo mine boy yeah You killed my father. Prepare to death. He won in 2000 and then not again until 2015. He went to NASCAR for a stretch.
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Formula One as well. Yeah, he he was a dick. Okay. and Like the autograph line. He's an absolute dick. do do do do um this remember If you're listening, sorry, JPM.
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yes I'm not sorry. I'd say it to his face. He was a dick. I'll say it to his face, Donnie Baker. Swear God, I will. That's state law.
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If you call somebody a dick on the podcast, you got call them a dick to their face. To their face. Most poll positions for the Indy 500. Rick Mears. Yep. How many? Six. yeah Eight.
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oh Scott Dixon, five. uh so we all the re lion deck had the fastest uh yeah fastest one lap in was that the domino's pizza car no no that was a different it was the uh irl 96 oh gosh the heating and cooling brian brian brian yeah yeah so he had the fastest practice lap at 239 crazy crazy Fastest one lap in qualifying, fastest four-lap average.
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Who had the fastest lap in a race? Tom Sneva. Happened in the last few years, didn't it? Same year, 96. now Buddy Lazare?
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Nope. a Eddie. Underachiever? Eddie Underachiever? He ran a 236 mile. Three laps down?
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236 miles an hour he's always running from behind had do something most okay here we go most most laps led uh in a career in the career uh i'll see you there's two stats here it's a with winning or without winning is it just most laps period this is most laps led in the indy 500 i'll see i'm going dixon Al Senior was twice. Scott Dixon, yes. Number was 677 laps left. And he's only won Wow. That's incredible.
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Incredibly consistent. So here's here's the thing ah about this stat here. So Dixon, he led 677. He ran little over 4,000. 16.5%. he ran little over four thousand so sixteen and a half percent ah He leads? He leads. Shit. 16 and a half. Also, in the autograph line, great person. Not ah not a big Great person. So, i Al Senior was second.
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yeah He led about almost 15% of the time. Ralph De Palma led 612 laps. Nearly killed her. six hundred and twelve la nearly killed her But he only ran ah career laps about 1,600. 38% of the time that guy was leading the lap led the lap.
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That's nuts. Crazy. So anyway, I got a bunch stuff more. I mean, I got a few more things, but it's good. A lot of research here. Nice. Yeah. yeah You had free time this week, huh? That new job isn't getting in the way too much.
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you eight most laps led by a winning driver. Ooh. Emerson? It's Al. It's Big Al. It's Big Al. Most laps led by winning driver in one race. Say it again. Montoya? No. Actually, I've got Billy Arnold in 1939, 198. Oh, that race was great. That race was great. How many other cars were running by time it was over?
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I don't know. 1953. nineteen thirty hundred and ninety eight ah that race was great yeah race was how many other cars were running by the time it was over i little ninety two but two So, yeah, top top three, Billy Arner, Bill Bukovic, and Jim Clark.
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Wow, I was way off. Fewest laps led. By a winner? By a winner.
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Eddie Sheaver? Joseph Newgarden. Dan Weldon. Dan Weldon, yes. Ooh. One lap in 2011. That was the rain short, wasn't it? No, that's the Hilderbrand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. and When he whacked the wall.
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Yeah. i've got a Montoya was nine nine laps in New Garden, five ah five laps in to to allest Oldest driver. Oldest winning driver.
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47 years. Bobby Unser, his brother, was just just underneath him. 47 as well. youngest driver Troy Ruttman. Yeah, Troy Ruttman, 22. So, I thought Stingray Rob was younger than that.
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Well, he didn't win. We never won it. No, the one. okay. Young is the winning driver. Got it, got it. Good kid, though. Yeah. I like him. So, the the youngest starter and the oldest starter.
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AJ's? No. Both. Yeah. Both AJ Foyt. Yeah. But. A.J. Foyt that we know, junior, he was the oldest in 1992. A.J. Foyt IV was the young youngest. Really?
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Officially. We still don't know if Jose Le Garza yeah in 81, he lied on his birth certificate. ah Okay. Well, there you go I got couple more, but so that's about it.
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Those are good stats, Lincoln. Those are good stats. He didn't bring your chip bag. didn't bring my chip bag. Nothing to...
Race Preparations and Strategies
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All right, so that brings us to the meat of the matter. And so um a lot going on this week. Sunday was an exciting day ah at the two-and-a-half-mile oval.
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And then the fallout from Sunday got even more exciting as the week went on. And ah so, Bryce, while you were playing golf... um
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You missed all the fun. And so what? OK, so on the other side, we know um two car two Penske cars got caught in tech inspection.
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If you're messing with the attenuator, um we know the reason it became a thing was because it was brought to the attention of the inspectors by another team.
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So the fallout becomes people lose their jobs, say have to save face, obviously. I mean, Penske right now is just damage control.
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Yes. And so today it was announced that what I would consider key people in that organization that are probably fairly important to this weekend, no longer there.
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so Put it all together. What's your take on everything? What, you know, just as much as you can talk about and feel comfortable talking about. Jesus Christ, Jeff. Can you state this question? Jake Query, get to the question. What what does ah what does that look like out the Motor Speedway? What's the scuttlebutt? What's, you know, what does that look like going on for the, for Sunday?
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I think you can't look at it individually without thinking about the push to pass issue from last year. i honestly, it's like, okay, if this was a one-time thing, you're like, well, what were you thinking? This was so blatantly obvious. It's it's exposed.
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The attenuator is right there. And then they put silver paint on top of it to make it look Right. right So it's like, okay, that's whatever advantage that is. I don't know. And and the other thing too, is I don't want to throw any driver under the bus. Cause I don't think they knew. yeah I'll be honest. I don't think they did. right But let's go beyond that.
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You throw this on top of the push to pass from last year. And for a series that is trying to grow again, and Fox is a great partner, as we talked about last week. right You cannot, this cannot happen. This kind of stuff can't happen.
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And you that you own the series. And to me, as someone who, as we were talking about with the history, this place is my mecca right i love indianapolis i love indy car racing i love racing in general in fact br when it's all said and done and i'm no longer spotting gonna join you on some of those late models to me that's that's the grassroots and that's what i love um but no going back to it it's just one of those things where It's surreal.
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I can't believe we're going through this again. Right. This was a no brainer that they had to make. It went deeper than I thought. I thought maybe one or two people. Right. I didn't realize all three um race strategists at different positions, whether it was a president, vice president, director.
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Before the biggest race in the series. Yeah. Like three days before. And and it is it is a tremendous black eye. We all know in racing that you push the envelope on legality. Everybody cheats.
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Yes. Well, it's not... Okay, you can say it that way, and you're not wrong, but it's more or less of, hey, hey let's try this. Let's try this. What can we get away with? We're trying to innovate. Innovation. Yeah.
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Well, there's so many little things that you can do now, but I also look at it like, how did it pass tech in one of the cars or whatever? But at the same time, it's just a black eye, and it's embarrassing.
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Right. I'm embarrassed because now I look at was last year legit? Yeah. And you got question that pains me. some yeah That pains because im i know I'm going to hear it from friends like, hey, is your your sport legit?
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Right. You know, I mean, it it it's painful. Go ahead So so if you could just in layman's terms, tell us exactly what happened, what what they did to screw with that.
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It's attenuator. so and And what effect does that have on the car? Okay, so first I will preface to say that I'm not an engineer. I'm not a mechanic. But this was something that an attenuator, I'm going use my hands, which I can't do pretty much, but ah you can. yeah yeah you can your camera It bumps up to the back of the car, and it's not supposed to be adhesed or sealed.
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Maybe bolts, but there's so so supposed to be a gap. What Penske was doing, it was shaving it down and making it flat. okay Now, I don't know, and Pat O'Ward, think, said it perfectly.
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What advantage that has, ah who knows? i mean get That's beyond me. sure But the fact that it is a rule violation and it didn't get caught... And then they went and looked at the cars in the museum from last year that are sitting there and they see it on those cars. It's like, well, wait a second.
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Yeah, should open that museum a month later. Again, it's so we forget in layman's terms, it was a rules violation that they obviously looked at it and said it's a whether it's a fraction of a second.
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Look at the qualifying speeds. sure Look at how mr we missed out on the um the top 12 by just a fraction. Yeah. And you look you're saying, it's all it takes. Turn three pass to win the Indy 500 last year, which was amazing.
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Was the car legit? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But it raises that question. That's what we don't need.
Controversy and Car Modifications
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Yeah. We don't need to question. We don't have to be legit. Because 225 miles an hour, those cars are going a football field every second.
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So, I mean, even if you get a a ya tiny, tiny. Yes, it doesn't take much. A a foot, really. I mean, up part part of a second. Multiply that by 200 laps.
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I mean, I know qualifying is different, but we're I'm not talking race. Multiply that by 200 laps, that tiny little fraction of a second, it's going to add up. It's huge. so and mean And Bayar sent me ah an article yesterday.
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And in theory, with where the attenuator is, all the air around the Is it by the taint? No. um All the air around the car. taint-uator.
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wouldn't It wouldn't affect it, right, because of where it's located. Maybe in the terms. But, yeah, and that so then then that's like— It turns where you lose in speed, right? so as you're but as But as you're reading that article, you're thinking, then why would you fuck with it, right? I mean, you're not going to fuck with something that, eh, it's not going to matter. if you're If you're strategizing a race and you're trying to win— you have some knowledge that that is helping you at some level or you don't even, you don't even give it a second thought, right? So all those guys, all those engineers, all those guys that, that do that, somebody figured out, Hey, maybe we can gain a hundredth of a second if we do this. And so it's all it takes and get and get away. So the other spec series, right? That's all it takes. Right. And in the other part of that is,
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racing has always been about the gray area and the rules so all that gray area is where the cheating to win whatever you want to call it it's not necessarily cheating it's hey here's the rule um but this isn't this isn't really what the rule says and and kind of try to play into that area to gain an advantage and in a spec series that Like Link said, that advantage doesn't have to be huge. It doesn't have to be three miles an hour.
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right It has to be fractional. Two one-hundredths of a second. Just enough. yeah I think what's most upsetting to me as a fan of the sport, beyond what I do as a spotter, but as a fan of the sport, I thought what Penske did 94 was genius. was the last really true...
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ah with the pushrod engine, that that was that was ingenious. But you had people still say, oh, the cheater moer or motor. No, it wasn't. The beast. It was not a cheater.
00:27:39
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They found a loophole in the rules, took a huge chance, and built a pushrod engine you to race the Indy 500 and absolutely dominated. even Roger Pinsky said that he didn't feel like it success because only one car won, but right the other two cars didn't finish.
00:27:55
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or Or Tracy was couple laps down. But this is not that. This is just embarrassing. And I don't know how else to say it. And and i i I feel like I feel dirty.
00:28:11
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yeah Being a part of it, I just feel dirty. And I i don't like that feeling. Well, you're on the right podcast. yeah so We're all dirty around here. So the firings came down. Doug Bowles came out said what he said on Monday.
00:28:23
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What did he say? you know I hear that. Sorry. Well, I mean, he's the one that came about the— The fine and the— explain it better than I do. He's he's over the IndyCar racing, but he's also IMS. Right.
00:28:36
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bla bla Blah, blah, blah, blah. That has to be difficult for him because the guy he's hammering is signing his checks. So that's where the question came up. Should there be a third party that ah that oversees these rules and forces the rules, that type of thing? Seems like a little bit, ah and not a little bit, lot it kind of conflict of interest. Sure. Absolutely. Sure. Well, there's been discussion about a third party running tech.
00:29:01
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That was in racer.com, and I believe ah Marshall Pruitt wrote about it, yep and they squashed it. um I think this is going to raise that right to the forefront.
00:29:12
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yeah um Again, it goes back to Doug Bowles, by the way, was very good in his answers. he lot He answered some tough questions from Kevin Lee on Sunday. yeahp That dude's really good in general. I've never been so proud. There is a person that, again, I've only met him a few times, but ah Doug Bowles is such a great guy.
00:29:32
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And you can just see he, the lawyer came out in him. That can be good. And that can be bad. Yeah. But he said, here are the facts that we know we could deal with Induendo forever. And that that's, that's an endless pit.
00:29:44
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no But he said, this is what we know. These cars are going to go back to 11th and 12th. And then on Monday, he's like, no, wait a second. These cars are going to go back and 33rd. Right.
00:29:56
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and thirty third right Which, you know, for us, we moved up to 15th on the outside. I'm selfish. And then Malukas moved up too.
00:30:07
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No, he was already ahead of him. Was he already there? Yeah. It's funny. I made that same mistake. yeah I went to the crew chief of that car. I go, hey, you moved up. He goes, why? I go, oh, shit. I thought he was back. no we're the He qualified seventh.
00:30:19
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so yeah Speaking of qualifying, rookie Robert Schwartzman. that was fun what That was fun on Sunday. First time since 83 with tail. yeah oh bobby okay I did not have that. Green home a green green cars don't win.
00:30:36
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Green cars don't win. Green's like a bad... and It's supposed to be a cool day on Sunday. Remember what happened to Tao at the start of the race. That was a 15-cent piece. that hit Hit the wall.
00:30:47
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Yeah. Now, Teo. Teo. No, Teo didn't. He wiped out on the first lap. Oh, no, pace lap. No, that was Roberto Guerrero. That was Roberto Guerrero. In 92. Well, I thought Teo tapped out pretty early, too, I thought.
00:30:57
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No? Well, he did. He led for a while in his first pit stop. Some, what was it? Oh, okay. Again, this is my Donald Davidson coming out. His, like, there was a small 50. A gasket or something. Yeah, something broke and the fuel's spilling out.
00:31:09
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And as an 11-year-old kid, I'm like. Yeah. Or 12. Yeah, it was 12. Yeah. This is how my home improvement shit goes. I'm like, ah, we need another 15-cent gasket. I'm going to Menards. And then 19 trips later, we have 22 gaskets, but none of them work to solve the problem. And you finish 15 laps under.
00:31:28
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Yes, yeah I've been wrong sized my whole life, Lanko. ah Got it. So what's that do, Bryce, for the two-time past champion coming from the back without his race strategist?
00:31:40
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Was Sendrick on his car? ah Yes, Cendric. Cendric was on his card. I mean, it's like losing your head coach three days before the big game. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, some NFL teams, that could be a good thing. That's what I thought.
00:31:54
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No, I mean, in all honesty, I mean, New Garden won last year with with with ah actually the guy who's going to be our turn three spotter for Malukas called New Garden's race last year because our four cars obviously were associated with and not that way, because that was my first question, is like, how associated are we? And I don't know that, and I don't even want to get into that, because I don't know, it's none of my business.
00:32:17
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But that turn three spotter for Maloukas for this race called the strategy for Newgarden last year to win. He's been with the Penske forever. So, no, he'll call this. They have people in line to do it. sure um you And by the way, it's not just one person calling strategy. You have a lot of engineers, they have a lot more yeah that are going to help them. I think it's more along the lines of the trust.
00:32:38
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um and then in this kind of series you better count on a yellow that helps you out if you're starting that far back you're not gonna mean he's fast you guys saw it probably on sunday sure i mean they have some fast cars they're just gonna have to so is tracy chapman well are they gonna slow down with the the right attenuator or good call by the way luke colp's got in trouble for right now never mind but yeah But again, it's it's it's the same thing. The comment I was about ready to make was head coach like going in three days before the Super Bowl.
00:33:11
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I mean, ah a crap ton of coaches on an NFL team, right? I mean, you've got all kinds of coaches at all different levels. So a bunch of other people there that that the players trust and know and everything. But that's head voice the head coach then goes away. and So we're talking about the head coaches of three different racing teams.
00:33:30
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True. So... I mean, yes, you have other people in line. You have other people that the drivers know. But, I mean, a different voice in your ear. yeah i mean, I don't know how how much that would affect. who you said You said trust, right?
00:33:45
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That's what it comes down to. That has to be they the biggest thing. so Because they're still going over 225 miles an hour. right As a spotter, i mean as a spotter you're you're going into turn one as a driver, and I hear your voice who I've been with for a while.
00:34:02
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and then that voice changes, that has to be a different emotion. It can if you don't have any kind of rapport. um yeah Yeah, you know, Brett, you're right. I mean, you look at it and you say, okay, you want consistency. But I also say this is an opportunity for people in the organization that are under, I mean, next man up.
00:34:21
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And I know that's a cliche. It's like, you know, I'm mean just here to help the team and, you know, Boulder, whatever. But at the same time, it's real. Yeah. It's like, all right, who can now? And to me, if I was in that position, I'm like, sweet, I have an opportunity move up and I can prove myself because I think I'm better than guy anyway. And so if you look at that way, I don't I don't know.
00:34:43
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It's going to be interesting
Race Strategy Influences
00:34:44
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on Sunday. There are so many storylines. Absolutely. Which is great for the sport. Absolutely. but like ah But, New Garden was on Fox News this morning in New York City. Oh, yeah.
00:34:53
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You know. Oh, that's nice. It was what? It was on Fox News this morning. Oh, okay. Fox and Friends this morning. In New York City. And, yeah, and they're going to be here the live this weekend. The whole crew is. um shows you what I watch in the morning. New York City. Trump's not coming. That's probably a good thing because of what we found out in Daytona, regardless of somebody's politics, regardless of that shit, but the delays. Traffic was insane. Oh, you were the one who told me that.
00:35:23
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ah Oh, I don't know. yeah I don't know. I'm going to give you credit for it. My golf partner in our golf league that we played before the podcast every wednesday uh he actually still works at the motor speedway which you want to deny and i talked to him about about trump coming to the race he's like no don't i don't think so anymore and i was like well that's good because delays traffic it's like traffic is a nightmare yeah And then they'll shut down roads and go in and out. and i it's yeah It would be a frigging nightmare, logistically.
00:35:56
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Yeah, we have enough firepower coming into the race. It's going to fantastic anyway. So for gambling purposes. I cannot touch that. Would you put money New Garden? Bryce has hopes of making the ball game. That is one thing I cannot do. I signed something that cannot touch that. Or will to make the top ten.
00:36:17
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ah I cannot touch that. Okay. Next question. will power No, it's all good. No, actually, we have to, and and NASCAR is even more stringent on it, is anyone that works for the team, you cannot yeah you cannot even talk about it. Willpower makes the top ten. Bad question. I'm sorry. No, no, no. It's it's a great question. yeah will Willpower makes the top ten. Because he takes care of his shit. He takes care of his. Consistency. As long as he doesn't get caught up. cause He's going to get. It's going to be somebody else's.
00:36:44
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Correct. Fuck up. His calculation. Fuck up. That's going to. Yeah. Guys, I think the other thing that this is the first 500, and I think it caught everybody off this year. You have 70 or so extra pounds with this.
00:36:55
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Yep. Hybrid. And I think everyone is wondering. does Jeff. yeah Are you hybrid? Wow. Wow.
00:37:04
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he's ah He's an equal opportunity jabber. Good night. What the? And he's reveling in it, too. You can make short jokes, but can't make a hybrid joke. Come on now Come on now.
00:37:19
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Wow, that's a horrible slide whistle. Yeah. You got to go slower. Go ahead, Brad. No, that was fantastic. 70 extra pounds with a hybrid car. So I think everyone is just wondering cooler temperatures. Yep. Not like 92. Right. Which, by the way, they wouldn't run that race today.
00:37:34
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What? Really? If that happened today, those temperatures are too cold, Firestone would say, we're not running. And I would 100% agree with that. We shouldn't have ran that race in 92. We should have waited.
00:37:46
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But. It is what it is. That race was awful. So is 70 pounds going to matter? Speaking of tires, tire wear and stuff like that? No, no. It's not a lot. Firestone's incredible. You'd have to ask my wife.
00:38:00
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Firestone's absolutely incredible. So going back to... ah so Stop. It's my sister. He's not allowed to be on top anymore. So going back to the 92 race... a lot of wear?
00:38:13
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Our guest about three weeks ago. Get off of me. You're heavy. That was one of his favorite races. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, wait. 92? Yeah. John, our guest, John, about two, three weeks ago. don't know if it's John or Dave, but yeah. Was he sober? Michael Andretti led every lap to like 189, and then it got exciting. He said there was so much that happened that race. Yeah. Every time he went back to green and turned four. Yeah.
00:38:40
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Yeah, it was awful. He point Blake said that was his favorite race. I swear. You know, it was Ricky of the year that year. ninety two ninety two ninety two two it's a good one ah give you hint okay he she lived in arizona anna no no no no no no no no no ah oh oh gosh um she's saw awesome katherine like no no no a um okay you you hold on fuck guess somebody completelyr i guess some might close say famous nine and save james yes wednesday james yeah's over paul tracecy
00:39:11
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oh And when I see them both in Arizona, would kind of tell Paul, hey, you didn't have that. That's hilarious. Is that the year Stan Fox? yeah thats didn't turn No, no, that was 95. That was actually my first year working in racing.
00:39:27
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so it's crazy i set was right I skipped commencement at IU. That's the worst fucking thing ever. and so I went right to work for Goodyear Racing Tires. That was scary. I mean, we could see his legs playing his day. ah That was ugly. So, ah not to name drop, but I'm going to it.
00:39:45
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When I see Paul Tracy and Lynn St. James to this day, yes I still say Paul Tracy looks better from behind.
00:39:55
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I don't even have to respond. None of us There's no answer. There's no answer. are Are we ready for joke of the week? Let's go. But I will tell you, Paul looks like he could race again. If you've seen him, look pull him up on Instagram. down oh my Are you kidding me? He is fit.
00:40:10
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Is he cut? He's cut. The dude looks like he could get back in the car. He raced. He's reverse Axl Rose. Didn't he do the Baja stuff and all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.
00:40:21
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Paul was a stud. Oh, my God. He's ripped. I told you. Yeah. yeah and Tom's going to crank one off to later. yeah Which one is did he? You're not going to crop the right part of that picture out, are you?
00:40:33
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show Show me that guy. didn't see Paul Tracy in that picture, Tom. I'm sorry. I didn't see Were you distracted? No. yeah He got screwed in what year was that? Lisa Rich. That was is his ah third wife. honey Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, but hey, I'm a twice loser, so I'm sorry. Hey, but no, in all honesty, yes. He's in good company with Tom. It was 2001. Jacques?
00:40:52
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No, Elio. Elio. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't spotting then, i was actually sitting in turn three. In fact, a few PacWest guys were around me.
00:41:04
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PacWest, wow. Old champ car team. And I think I ah was yelling so much, like this isn't NASCAR, we just saw... you know i was Some bullshit. yeah ah I was not pleased with my behavior at that track. It happens.
00:41:22
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we We've all had. can't all had i'll be great all the time. I say that every Wednesday night, honestly. it wasn't my finest moments almost every carb day too just because laurent fignon wrecked or whatever his name was and then the yellow came out when castron was running out of fuel anyway but i digress sorry so lanko though my worst day at the track ever was not carb day was fast friday oh that was fast for that was fast okay okay gotcha gotcha I showed up drink drunk at Link's office. Hey, buddy. he thought He thought it was carbon. He thought the walls of the Edmond building were going to fall down, and he needed to he over and hold the walls up. so Like a champion, the way. Well, yeah, you did. I was very good at that. Walls are still standing, by the way. you Because of me.
00:42:11
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So I got to ask you, it's been a tough week for the 14 car, right? um i would I would say— Was it expected or was it were there some surprises in there? I think last week it was tough to find what we had the previous two years. Right.
00:42:26
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ah But what's great about Santino, and i think I said it last Wednesday night— is if the car's not right, he's gonna pull it in. right You can only do so much in the cockpit. He's like, nope, nope, I'm pulling it in.
00:42:36
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Okay, so then we got to qualifying. we were We were good. We weren't as good as the last two years, but we were close, really close. ah he got He caught a wind ah gust on Saturday when his first lap was plenty fast fast enough.
00:42:51
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ah He caught a wind gust in turn two, and which a lot of people did. right and But he's smart enough to say, you know I'm not going to put this in the damn wall. yeah And so we ran 228 that lap, and and then I like what the officials are doing now. They're not wasting time.
00:43:05
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Bring it in. sure Okay, so at the time, we're going to start 17th. Okay, I mean, and i won in 2014 with Hunter Ray starting nineteen Different cars, but you can still do it. Sure. You can still do it. Yeah.
00:43:15
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So, yeah, to go back to your question. To be in the middle of the pack is not a bad place to We were a little bit behind the eight ball, I'd say, on things we wanted to get done. But come Monday, we were in the top 15 in speed.
00:43:29
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Right. Which means, and i'll I'll take Santino over a lot of the guys when it comes to racing and traffic. Sure. ah Elbows out. Yeah. Yep. Let's get to the front. Now we're starting on the outside. Yeah.
Santino Ferrucci's Race Strategy Insights
00:43:40
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<unk> I wouldn't be surprised to see us in the top 10 within a few laps. So early last week, I saw an interview Santino after you guys had been out um the week before qualifying and he had made a comment. He said, no, I told him we need to go back to last year's car.
00:43:57
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And he said, I've got it all in my head. And I remembered what you said on the podcast. The kid is just dialed in. He knows, he knows what's going on. He understands the vehicle, you know, and, yeah and it's just so, so ingrained in what it is.
00:44:13
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i could just picture him being in the garage saying, no, we're, we need to do this, this, this, and this, and just kind of supervising the activity. He's got an incredible engineering mind. um where if you see him out personality wise where he he does have a great gregarious personality. right And he's fun to be around.
00:44:31
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sure You get him in the engineering room, you would think he was an engineer. In fact, we have race strategy meetings and I'm thinking, I'm like, wow, this is impressive. ah Very impressive. sure And I've seen it now for the last three years and that's why he has the record he does. right he So,
00:44:48
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well so So allergies are absolutely killing me here in Indiana. That's how it works. As far as ah qualifying goes, are you actually doing spotting? Like, are you? Absolutely not.
00:44:59
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If they use spotters in qualifying, we are trouble. You're fucked. Yeah. I was, what but I mean, well later you said you were at the track on Saturday. Yeah, it's more team support. Okay, okay. More support for my guys, the crew.
00:45:12
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um You want to be a part of it because, well, you want to be part of the team picture, too. Come on, sure. I thought I knew the answer. i just wanted to make it clear. Someday when I'm all dead and buried, someone might go, i think i knew that i knew that guy. I don't have any kids to pass on to.
00:45:30
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when they are running down the track, i we saw, obviously, Washington from Florida. They're dicking with buttons, pushing buttons on this. Unbelievable. wait That's going to be one of my questions. Weight jackers. Weight jackers.
00:45:42
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What can and they do? What is that? So, okay, you can now, you have three things you can work on. You can work on the weight jacker. As a driver. Fuel mixture. And now the hybrids.
00:45:53
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on when to deploy the extra energy. I may be missing one, but those are the three big ones. So Marco just had an interview the other day and goes, man, these kids have a lot of, they have a lot going on the steering wheel.
00:46:04
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So, you know, they always say you're never really multitasking. I call BS. They're definitely multitasking. At 220 miles an hour. And it is,
00:46:15
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again it's guys the the the normal human You have to be abnormal to be able to do this. Sure, it sure. Oh, hell yeah. It's fantastic. So what's a weight, Jack? Yeah, yeah yeah so yeah what exactly? Transfer of weight ah from left to right.
00:46:30
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So you're you're basically you're you're moving the weight around in the car. It's just like being on top. Stop. what Again, my sister. i would No, I didn't say with him. I'm just saying in general. when you I dropped to my left hip.
00:46:43
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Weight shifted to the left. Left to right, front to back. it on a slide bar? Yeah, and again, that goes beyond just to me, it's all about balance of the car. So if he feels like he needs a little bit more, he might mess with the weight jacker a little bit.
00:46:56
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It's more fuel mixture along with when to deploy the hybrid, especially in qualifying. So, you know, you you might mess with that a little bit less in the race. ah But in qualifying, when everything is trimmed out, what I mean by that is yep so little downforce, where some people are even running a negative on the wing, which basically the wing would make the car almost take off.
00:47:16
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um And that, Cajones, unbelievable. Yeah. so the weight yeah so the weight jacker is basically weight distribution within the car i can shift it right or left or yeah for front mine actually yeah i didn't know it go front to back i think it's i think it's left or right more than is it in the front wing is ah maybe i mean i know we're probably asking yeah we're getting we we can probably google it Probably. You're right. Because I don't want to say anything wrong. Tom, careful. While Tom's Googling this, here's what frustrated me Sunday. Make sure you put Wade in front of Jack. Yeah, make sure how you Google that, Tom. And add the word off at the end, I think. um
00:48:00
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What needs to happen with this series, if anybody wants to understand what hybrid really is, because it was just it's just a word. There was no stats. There's no, and like, oh yeah, he's coming off turn four. He's he's using a hybrid. and That's what the announcer is saying, but there's no video stat that, because push to pass used to have that.
00:48:19
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It's like, boom, he just hit it, right? And it's like, oh, he's coming off turn four. He's using a hybrid. And like, Whatever. It just seemed like like it was ah pre-written in their script that they have to say that every time. I get so tired of hearing it. It was a ridiculous. So the weight jacker is located in the right rear damper. Yep.
00:48:41
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Correct. Just past the tank. Adjust the car's weight distribution. That was tank. Yeah, tank. ah yeah Yeah, yeah. By adding weight to the front left or front right corner.
00:48:54
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Correct. Okay. i I wasn't too far off. So it's not the front of the car. It's not the rear of the car. It's the tank. It's by the tank.
Understanding Hybrid Systems in Indy Cars
00:49:01
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reckon Right in the middle of two holes. Two holes that Penske violated, actually. my answer My answer pretty much equals my high school ah GPA. Education level. Just got by.
00:49:16
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We're going to pass him because he knew a little bit about it. So how are you feeling about Sunday for Santino? I'm excited. I mean, it's in the 500. And when you have a driver that were waiting will go to the front, yeah we're we um you know, again, this place chooses you. I know that's an no cliche, but it really does. yeah and But you look at Santino's finishing position and what the team we have around him, our pit stops have been fantastic this year.
00:49:40
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we you know That car is been is up here now, ah taking nothing away from the Houston guys that we had. But these guys are young. They are um working their asses off to to make sure every pit stop.
00:49:53
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I think now we're we're in the – I think we're close to the top 10 in overall pit stops, on time on pit lane ah over all the races thus far. And that's that's significant. That's huge. That's huge. In this series, that is absolutely huge. It's critical. and And that's what's going to hurt Schwartzman.
00:50:10
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yeah And I don't mean to be mean when I say that. Yeah, a rookie team. Rookie driver. They can pull off a miracle. sure Here we go, Santino. It's going to happen. Yeah, we're moving up. But a lot of shit has to go right in 500 miles. you need Everything has to go right. Not a lot of shit.
00:50:25
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Everything has to go right. You got to have a you gotta have some luck. I mean, always yeah anyway. a 14 eighth in pit stop. Yeah, sounds of the season okay top sure. It feels like top Tom. points.
00:50:40
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Yeah. the So he it was kind of cool. On Monday, I went to pick up my wife's ring. We had it cleaned at a jeweler's up there northwest side of town. And there was a woman that had the... Cubic Zargonia?
00:50:50
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Big tits. You had big tits up there. you are so west side. love that. Our watches are better. She she she had... my God. what's the team that won the poll for for me for Prima primima Prima Prima she had Prima jacket on talking to the owner who so I said know the owner she was just there chit-chatting with and I saw the Prima jacket so I went picked up my wife's ring and I went over to her I said congratulations I said we were down in South Florida rooting for you bigger than shit we were in a bar people were looking at us like we were crazy when would he won that well
00:51:25
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And she turned around. She goes, well, thank you very much. And the owner of the place goes, yeah, he, she was the wife of the chief engineer of that team. She goes, thank you. were're We're very, and you could see that excitement. Anybody would be excited about winning the poll at Indy. Of course. But they, they had to party their asses off Sunday. day yeah I would hope so. and yeah The kid is incredibly talented. I mean, he's a Ferrari reserve driver.
00:51:53
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Oh, shit. Okay. I mean, Schwarzman is stud. Okay. And there's no doubt about it. And the funny, I shouldn't say funny thing. You can either adapt to ovals or you can't. This is the only super speedway we run now.
00:52:07
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Yeah. So right you can either. he didn't even run on the first day of practice, did he? No, no. They didn't bring cars out. No. It didn't matter, I guess. And won the pole.
00:52:17
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Yeah. Saved tires. And won the pole. That's crazy. No, it's really incredible story. um We'll see what happens yeah on race day. and That front row is with Takuma. No.
00:52:29
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Well, I mean, my my thought was, okay, who's going to lead? so People always ask me, who do you think is going to lead lap one with that front row? Takuma. Or he'll die trying. Godzilla? Godzilla? I put Pato.
00:52:44
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You think so? Coming from third? You think Pato's going to come out hot? I would think he would just kind of hang around. You don't you don't want to... fall behind two people that haven't been running up front or have a series good call i mean come on let's think about it then when you get to lap three or four then you can settle in and say okay what fuel number do we need to hit right lot of people don't like that right i know so many race fans say why as soon as the race starts all of a sudden you start to hit the fuel number yep because you win and lose in pit lane. ye yeah
00:53:15
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And so that starts from lap one or two, whether people like it or not, whatever. That's just the way it is. That's strategy. you know I've always said this, if I owned a two car team and we were both up front, I'd want one car to say,
00:53:28
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You're going all out. Different strategies. I want you to be the rabbit. you are You are not even going to lift at all, and if you put a half a lap on the field, you do it. Wasn't it Rossi's? Alexander Rossi, the 100th running.
00:53:39
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In Andretti's? He came out of nowhere. I think i say nowhere. it was incredible. That was a team effort. that was they They pulled him through with draft and everything. The last rookie to win it.
00:53:52
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Yeah, you're correct. Nice. yeah All right. ah Jeff, that was awesome. I'm going to to change gear. um I'm going to put Bayar on the spot. Oh, he's been awful quiet. He's been quiet. well it's He brought a fancy microphone and he hadn't said shit.
00:54:05
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Have you guys ever tried to horn in on... this conversation with the four of you around the band? Yes, I have. Link has. Yes, I have. I try every week. are BR, just jump in, buddy. It it it seems like there's 12 people sometimes, right you know, when I'm trying to talk. So, Bayar has his own race tradition thing, right, for Carb Day, right?
00:54:27
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what's What's your weekend look like? So, yeah, so we'll we've got a family and friends group. We'll go out Friday morning and and park typically in turn four. You say carb day?
00:54:37
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Yep. I said the weekend because you don't go the race. I typically don't go to the race. I've i've been to probably 20. yeah The race is tough. right It's a commitment. here It's a commitment, man. It's all day.
00:54:49
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It's all day. It is. ah So, yeah, we'll be turn four, carb day, um bright and early. Yep. a concert in the afternoon come hang out in speedway on saturday night okay lots of so how how early so you'll be back here saturday night i'll be back here nice okay good you say bright and early how early you get out there on carb day on friday uh will well i don't know this will be interesting because i've been trying to find this fucking information out all week well if you shut the hell up maybe he'll tell us he doesn't know that's actually a good career advice tom
00:55:22
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ah He doesn't know. you you ah You get a police escort, so you have to know what time you're coming in. So so we we get a police escort or have had a police escort in the in the last couple of years. ah A friend has – a friend who works for the – one of the motorcycle police for IMPD, and between their assigned escort services, they can – apparently pick up but and you know when you say escort services what do you mean by not what you're to the track eric okay wow so you know if another guy can get squeezed into the the rotation john his name was john john wilcox punch and john john wilcox all right so br i am totally with you on race day and i will tell you why the day i'm no longer spotting you will not see me at the race
00:56:09
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We've had this conversation. It is painful. ah you know But it's fun. But you will see me at a short track with you. Let's go, man. We we always need somebody else to change a tire. And we're going to go to Oswego?
00:56:20
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so Absolutely. You bet. Jimmy Champlain? Joe So what I heard is Bryce likes the short ones, yes guys? just He does. That's what I just heard. Bryce likes the short ones. Dude, I'm 5'10". Of course I do. Why do you think Brett and I are friends? Yeah, 5'10 is on my mother's side. yeah We can barely ride roller coasters.
00:56:43
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You must see this all. But, BR, I'm with you on that. Hey, here's something I thought would come up tonight that has not come up yet. Oh, okay. We have an official set of yard yards. Oh, yeah.
00:56:59
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i I was go letting you, because it is your official set yard jarts, to bring that up. we're we talking about that aren't they real Aren't these illegal now? Yeah, they are. They're nearly they're literally against the We have contraband in the in the garage. They're frowned upon. we literally have No, they're illegal.
00:57:18
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So if you have them, like what's the penalty? I don't know, but they are ill. you can you Hang him. Yeah. hey yeah Hang Hang him. Until he is dead. you you You literally cannot, you can't sell them. Well, no, he's not selling Legally on any. no we're going to play with them. Can you play with them? we're playing with them. Supposedly not. Are we on the Jertz conversation? yeah They are ill eagle.
00:57:45
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Got it. I'm serious. I read that somewhere. but we're saying how you've read that somewhere, so on the interwebs? Yeah. No, you like so it's go to be that's goingnna be real you can't buy them anywhere. You can buy, you cannot you can buy the box. They came in.
00:58:00
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correct true without Without the Jarts. Ken and Barbie also play that game, sure. Correct. Okay, so are you okay telling us where? Oh, yeah, yeah absolutely. okay So I'm doing some fundraising with wrestling kids.
00:58:16
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This is ah actually a funny story. I've been in this garage, and I might say a thousand times, probably least 200. Maybe, whatever. Closer to a thousand.
00:58:28
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Probably closer to a thousand. Got it. And I look up. So it's Coach's garage. So i I'm with Barbara. I'm like, hey.
00:58:40
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what What are those up there? Those jarts? a We're doing some shit. We had to have ladders climb through. So I put a ladder back. And as I put the ladder back, I look up there. I'm like, what the?
00:58:52
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in In the package, it clearly says, it's in the original fucking package. That's unbelievable. It says, ah yard Franklin Yard Yards or whatever. Yeah. I'm like, Barb.
00:59:03
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Lawn darts. I'm like, hey. Are you going to use these? What are you doing with these? this I'm like, I need these next week for the podcast.
00:59:16
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I'm like, you could probably sell these for $600 probably. Right now. Technically, according to my attorney over here, who's not really an attorney. You can't sell them. You just can't sell them publicly. You can't tell anybody. Let's call Jay. Barb just...
00:59:35
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if barb just maybe kind of sort of wanted to sell them. On the slot. What was she, $100 for them?
00:59:46
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I'm willing to go $150. Here's where got a little crazy because I busted these out as my kids are doing the fundraising. Those look brand new, dude. They're in great shape. We got play before. There's no mud. No. The ends usually get split. I was going to say the plastic is probably so hard by now they'll split. Only one of them split.
01:00:08
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Okay. And I've actually researched already. There's an Etsy site that will give you the the wing. The wing. Yeah. Wow. Nine bucks wing. So you can buy the wing. Sorry, the wing. The slider. There's nut. Yeah.
01:00:24
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can that Can that be adhesed to the attenuator? Yeah. Probably. Wow. That's why they're illegal. You've got to have one for each side. Of course. Build a gap. Ferrucci wins the race on a jerk wing. That's why they're illegal. Yes.
01:00:39
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but So I bust this out. I'm like, I put the circle together and threw a couple. and And then my kids that were doing the yard work fundraising. They had no idea. It's like, what are you doing? That looks fun. I'm like, dude, these are illegal.
01:00:53
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Yeah. I can't let you participate. Yeah.
Nostalgia: Childhood Games and Injuries
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But did. I could lose my job. But I did. um i took pictures of us playing, and, like, I can't post these because I actually might in trouble.
01:01:07
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But that that's the coolest thing that's happening to me in a bit. That's twice, by the way. So I can tell you why these are illegal. But nobody's counting, Bryce. We didn't bring a towel. Bryce, you said you had a story about George when we were talking. this is good stuff.
01:01:21
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Yeah, this Get that away from him. well He spilled his beer twice. No, it's a koozie. That's the problem. so okay I think it's your watch, actually. hitch stuff It's that big giant watch that you and Jeff were making. Gotta support the Indy 500 and tag lawyer. That's right.
01:01:37
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So, a plug for the show. All right, so when we were growing up, my two older brothers, that we had a game where you had two trees and you'd run between it, ah kind of like, um and what was the baseball name? Oh, ah pick and the Pickle the Middle. Suicide. So the oldest brother, of course, he was the one. yeah he would say, okay, you got to see how many times you can run and tag the tree without getting hit.
01:02:03
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through the brain. So somebody threw it straight up air. Yes, and you had to And you back and forth. And sometimes you would dive. You know, Pete Rose. We'd always call it the Pete Rose. that Yeah, Headford Starr. Ooh, Hall of Fame eligible now. And I recall that my middle brother caught one in the shoulder. Oh, shit. Well, I mean, just a graze. Sure, yeah.
01:02:22
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But guys, we all, I mean, this is how we grew up. No one wore helmets. From a three-pound piece of metal that was sharpened to in. Yeah, but that's not three pounds. And it's not that sharp. I think the jarts were sharper.
01:02:33
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No, they No, you make them sharper. These are original. These original. Yeah, no, that is really not that sharp. No. It's not dangerous. So, again, now I'm looking at it, and I'm thinking, this sort of not this is why we are soft in this country, because this should be legal.
01:02:47
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Absolutely should be. Okay, that's all I agree with that. It weeds out the, it's the Darwin theory. Yes. i agree with that. It's the absolute Darwin theory. yeah And, yeah, so I do recall that, and and it was it it happened at my grandma's house, and I just remember...
01:03:02
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i guess I think it was my little brother. Yeah, it had to have a scratch or a big gash. Was there a scene on Grown Ups? Is it the movie Grown Ups with ah Adam Sandler? i won't no That one. where they Where they shoot an arrow in the air?
01:03:14
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like yeah Oh, yes. They shoot an arrow in the air? Yes. I'll top the Dininger middle brother's shoulder injuries. Oh, boy. He put an eye out. Here we go. here We couldn't have been missed by an inch.
01:03:27
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like I couldn't have been more than five years old. And we're in my backyard, family Sunday cookout or whatever. And we get the big idea. We're going to play blind. We throw them backward over our shoulder.
01:03:40
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Oh, shit. And then same rules, right? Whoever gets closest, whatever the points scoring system was. This is why they're illegal. And at some point. This is why we're friends. We're winging them backwards over. We might be related. My cousin wasn't paying attention to the game going on in the yard and walks across the field of play and catches one on her eyebrow.
01:04:00
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On her. On her eye. I mean, literally, to this day, a scar. so this that'll tell I'll tell Tom yeah it's Parnelli, so you can give her a little brief on Saturday or Friday. Yeah, we will.
01:04:13
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You were always afraid to ask her about her eye, weren't you, would go up there and go, hey, what's up with your eye? ah Wow. Would I? Looks lazy. Were the one that threw it? i was might have been the one that threw it.
01:04:24
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Boy, did I get in trouble that night when the family was gone. It's a five-year-old kid. That's bull. Suddenly, the jarts were no longer in the garage. Oh, yeah, yeah, gone. Gone. So, yeah, when I saw him in the box over there, I texted my cousin, Kim. I was like, hey, I've got a surprise when we go Carpe on Friday. Yeah, you sent her back into Toronto on Friday. We're playing. but I look back on it. I don't think that was your fault.
01:04:45
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Why didn't she know where the field of play was? Well, we're five. Agreed. Yeah, but you should still know. oh five yeah yeah You got to meet Kevin. We're playing this this week. You were five, dude? Oh, yeah. For sure. Oh, 100%. You should play it all weekend. and And it was it was the happiest thing that's happened. I'm not i'm not trying to minimize. i have a lot of good shit in my life. life love my kids love a lot thing this was the happiest thing that happened to me in the last i texted the group i didn't even tell you guys i wanted to i really want to i said you were excited i have a surprise for you guys wins that's like finding gold he's mentioned it twice we went on a stretch where we were seriously looking yes and the cheapest set we found was like 275 dollars
01:05:30
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So I went. You found the box. I found the box. Yeah. That's so weird because three months ago I was looking for one. box? No, these. Oh, I've been looking for box for a bit. Stop.
01:05:42
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No, I have not. Okay, sorry. Stop, Bryce. Just ignore him. It's because you wrestle. Ignore him and just keep talking. I want the box and the George. I'm sorry, George. yeah And the George.
01:05:54
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I'm sorry. You took me on a tangent. The George are what you wear. They will sell the box, yeah but not these. No. yeah This is impressive. It is. There was a lady in Brownsburg. I feel like I'm holding contraband.
01:06:06
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I think it was last summer and she wanted 295 bucks for the set. I would have paid. i would probably pay that. yeah I would probably. I was so close. As long as there's sliders.
01:06:16
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I don't think so. Hang on. What is Barb? What is Barb? What is Barb going to do? Why did she just give them to you? Well, she did. Okay. But here, here, here's the kicker.
01:06:27
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and No, just here's how it goes down. I'm like, okay. I cannot believe I've been in this garage. I've been to that beer fridge seriously 500 times. I've been in that garage since coaches passed. That's in the last two months. Yeah. Yeah. To to do different things.
01:06:44
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And like, how did these just show up? Cause I have a pretty good inventory that garage for, I mean, there's a lot of wrestling gear there, whatever. I'm like, Barb, where'd these come from?
01:06:55
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It's like, They've been there forever. the whole time. yeah Do you remember? Coach just happened. We set them up there in 1983. But they weren't there. Yes. It's like, I haven't moved them.
01:07:06
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um Were these under your bed and you just put them out here last week? That's kind of what I thought. like They're top of the shelf, like right in plain sight. I'm like, oh my God, this is awesome. That's crazy.
01:07:16
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Remember, they went from slider to the non-slider jerk. yeah And that chairable that changed the whole effing game. Those non-slider jerks. slider's part of the skill. slider's all part of it.
01:07:27
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Yeah. and We're playing this all weekend. I'm just saying. I would also. That's fantastic. It's gorgeous. It is. I i would say it's a little piece of our childhood. This brings back so many memories. He's so happy. I mean, I feel like Burger Chef is next. Burger Chef.
01:07:45
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wow Without the bombing, though. Oh, yeah yeah. Okay, just checking. Or the one here, the the murders the murder. The murder. The murder. The murder. The murder chef wasn't bombing. True. True. We were down at Lake Lemon. Where was on the bombing?
01:07:59
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That was at Speedway. Speedway. Speedway. High school. It was around Speedway. A couple of Strange story. Everybody was afraid to kick paper bags for a while. yeah They were playing Greenwood, that that game, and my cousin was on that team from Greenwood. that Really? yeah Yeah, but anyway, we were down at Lake Lemon on a family vacation.
01:08:21
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Good place. And the Jarts came out. I was 11, 12 years old My older brothers and my dad were playing and they they were sitting there, you know, you throw and then you stand around and you drink beer. Oh, sure. And wait for the jars to come back. Well, my brother had ah sandals on.
01:08:39
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And he wasn't paying attention to when the jerk came back. Jerk hit him on his big toe. Oh, wow. Shaved off, slid off of his toenail and shaved off. He had he had to go to the hospital.
01:08:53
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Oh, my God. Now, did he have to go or he want Well, he bled like a stuffed pig. Oh, yeah, yeah. He was bled like a stuffed pig. yeah So a Sergeant Holka got hit yeah by a jar. Yes, in his big toe. In his big toe. Oh, yeah. He's our big toe. Yeah, we to launch those things.
01:09:11
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Oh, yeah. Across yards. Well, it's the same way with three-wheelers. We grew up with a Honda three-wheelers. Sure, sure. I mean, think about that design. And then the outlawed those. Oh, it was terrible. But we're all here. Yeah. Everybody lived. We made it.
01:09:23
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Everybody survived. Everybody lived. yeah yeah I used to sit in the front seat between mom and dad on vacations all the way. The seatbelt was this. a thousand i'm still I'm still going back to BR throwing these things at five years old. yeah yeah Out to Colorado. Out to Denver, Colorado. thousand miles in front seat. No emails about my parents because they didn't know. We might have we snuck them out of the garage. Yeah, but someone bought them. They brought them for the adult parties. Are they sure they're not at the house? oh yeah they're long gone oh they're out there though they're somewhere well we know with every we know who has one set yep can we check was pretty happy about that i'll be honest man that that that's a that's good fun that yeah that's it's like uh american pickers would be like yeah i'll give you uh 10 bucks for it yeah they start low right yeah
01:10:19
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I kind like them. Well, only one of them. But they're not in great shape, so we'll give you $22. The box has got some broken edges. Is that something you can put on Etsy or something like that? You're telling me that it's illegal. It's illegal. You can buy weed. A fabricator can make that. I mean, seriously, you buy...
01:10:38
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and get it So jeff i whatever online um Jeff, why can't you Jeff effing? This is a true statement. So I post pictures of of the kids that do fundraising stuff. Sure. Sure.
01:10:48
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Yeah. We played jarts for about five minutes. I'm like, I can't post these pictures because legitimately these are illegal. so i could i could I could lose my coaching job, which is so very serious.
01:11:03
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Yes, I probably
Race Driver Profiles: Takuma Sato Discussion
01:11:04
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could, man. I'm glad you're telling the story. then yeah Well, he didn't. film Brian, it literally. So it didn't. know like list of this body that It literally says on the word on the wing of the Adult game not recommended for children's use.
01:11:20
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Just saying. So your five-year-old self? Especially if you're throwing it backwards. I'm not sure I could read at that point. But you could throw a jar backwards.
01:11:31
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Almost on the tarp. Hey, by the way, can I just go back to VR in the cousin's her name is parnelli which is by the way probably one of the greatest drivers of all time that's a hell of a name well no her nickname is parnelli yeah given to her by our host okay esteemed host tom oh you were you drove her from behind 16. whoa no she was leaking oil at 150.
01:11:56
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ah' price well come on b r i mean that's that's a great nickname it was it was more i think it was more of a reference to her driving skills at that time well parnelli was one of the best so she has to be damn good um okay maybe not you might have made tom pee in the car little so from a from a 16 year old in the car no from a 16 year old kid's standpoint and running around and in a car with somebody who's just just about a little bit older than you she was not the safest driver um and everything was a very aggressive she was she was a very understood aggressive nothing wrong with that no i was she asian so
01:12:41
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So out at the track, I think it was actually on Street when we nicknamed her Parnelly. They lived in the neighborhood yeah right there. Yeah, so it was a race weekend, and that was that became her nickname, and it's kind of just stuck.
01:12:56
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I don't like Mario anything or anything? So quick question. Outside of Santino, who's your race winner this weekend? Oh, shit. Tommy, we're going to start with you.
01:13:08
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Who's your race outside of Santino? I got to tell you, I really want to see Pat O'Gill. Okay. I really would. I like i like that kid. That's a good call. I think he's good.
01:13:20
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I think where they fuck up his strategy in a lot of cases because he's always there, but then something... It's been your second the last two years. something kind of goes sideways and he doesn't quite...
01:13:34
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get enough he's never won i would i would like i mean i would love to see santino read he's never won an over i would love to see santino win but santino doesn't win then pato i would like to see him get one by our and at at the risk of sounding redundant i'd go okay big fan but my heart i'd like to see kyle larson win okay we've we've raced with kyle you know in the dirt tracks for for a long time okay nice awesome i'd like to see kyle pull it in Brett?
01:14:02
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oh So you said i can't vote for Santino. You can. if if I mean, i said outside of. because I would go Dixon. Okay. Dixon, Santino, Dixon.
01:14:15
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I think, yeah. That's where I go. But also... really think Tracy Chapman has a really good chance. She's got because she's got a fast car. She has a fast car. I have a fast car. Well, you skipped Bryce.
01:14:28
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Well, can't. I keep you know i you know i like know who he wants to win. Well, course I know who I want to win. My driver. And obviously, if santino ah my teammate would be one I'd also like to see win as well. but she yeah take your team Outside of my team. Malukis is the teammate, right? yeah Yeah. And so outside of my team.
01:14:45
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So for me, it's more along lines of spotters. Okay. and we're a fraternity up there. Sure. And one of my dogliest small my dearest friends, and he's who I spot with on the IMSA Wayland Cadillac team, the 31 car, is Robbie Fast.
01:15:00
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He's won everything but Indy. He came to Dixon after. Robbie Fast Car? Robbie Fast. In fact, we always say it's Robbie Fast Friday. He's got fast car. He's on Dixon. He stands next to me at the Indy 500 in turn one. has forever since I moved but from turn three to turn one. Does he hold your hand every?
01:15:17
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Pretty much. So yeah and we sing that too. Oh, no, we sing everything. But we also quote st Stroker Ace and Smokey and the Bandit there. So again, you want to hear about stories from the spotters band. Yeah, let's go. So it used to be Robbie Fast on my left, Buddy Rice on my right or left rather.
01:15:35
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Now Buddy's is back home. He's not doing anything. ah So anyway, so we got Lucas, the spotter and next to me. But anyway, so I would, I would, I would outside of my team kind of cheering for Dixon.
01:15:49
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um He's one of the greatest drivers yeah ever in IndyCar. Nicest guys. His wife is absolutely incredible. I mean, just a nice person. It's not just what you see. She's awesome. He's awesome. they What you see is what you get. yeahp So if it wasn't our team, and I know I should be pulling for Chevrolet, Paddle would be good. Don't get me wrong. for sure Kyle, I get it.
01:16:11
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Awesome. Not good for the series. But Dixon needs to win another. Yeah, not untrue. dick buttonneys But when I'd like to see him back in the in this series full time because what else can you prove in NASCAR?
01:16:22
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Yeah, exactly. I'm just glad he's not still driving dirt cars. Well, mean, he wins a chili bowl. It's pretty freaking awesome. But no, no, going back to it, I'd like to see Dixon. Linko.
01:16:33
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ah so Who do I think is going to win or who would I like to win? thank Who do I think is going to win? Who you think is going to win? That's a different answer. Go with different go you say bow hang a go with one each.
01:16:45
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ah one so ah honestly ah I personally would like to see Ed Carpenter win for whatever reason. I've been an Ed fan for a while. It's a good story. He seems like a good dude.
01:16:58
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He's always fast. he's he always does He always seems to run well at Indy, and this is the only race he runs. He's not a full-time driver. So, I don't know. For whatever reason, I'd like to see Ed ed pull one out.
01:17:12
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um so But who do I think is going to win? ain't Ed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pillow has been so freaking good. ah i mean, I guess I think he's going to win.
01:17:24
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So those are two different answers. But, yeah, let's go. Jeffy? I'm going, and I'm dead serious about this. no Ready? Ready?
01:17:36
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You think Sato's going to do it, huh? Takuma is so good on this track. yes he should have won he He should have won three. He fucked up in in the race he didn't win. He trusted us. When he when he stuck in, what was that, first turn wall? Whatever. Turn one.
01:17:56
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I think he's going to be very... yeah Everybody, everybody ah always says. Zyrtec just quit on that joke. a ah He is very into... He's just faster than shit. He knows the time. D-Day can fix it.
01:18:12
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What's that? D-Day can fix it. yeah D-Day, yes. But here's the thing about Takuma. When he wanted... He's just too reckless.
01:18:22
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I don't think he's a good ah um PR person for the Indy 500. For whatever reason, I just don't think he is. That's what a good friend of mine's wife said. I hate him. He's a fuck. And I'm like, I don't know i think he's hate him.
01:18:35
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I think he's great. hates Takuma. I will tell you this. I said Takuma is one of the greatest guys. will send you guys a picture and I'll tell you the Takuma story. This is a couple years ago and he was still racing full time.
01:18:50
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there were six of us just happened to be talking six spotters just happened to be talking at gateway over there in st louis yep and he comes up he goes oh all my former spotters he takes a selfie with us he had the wherewithal the know-how to know that every single one of the people talking has been a spotter for him at some point and he takes a selfie with us that's awesome i will tell you before santino I had, I enjoyed, I only spotted for him for one year in a couple tests out in Phoenix when I lived out there, where I live out there and he was racing for Foyt.
01:19:27
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Besides Santino, he was the most fun person personable hu to spot for. I've never had a driver come into the garage and apologize after he screwed up and said, I'm sorry. That was Takuma.
01:19:38
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Really? That was a your Rossi one. yeah And I will tell you, so, and and in I understand people's thoughts, but there has never been, a Am I shocked that he's won two Indy Yes, because of his style.
01:19:53
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He is... Banzai. No, well, yeah, but he's he's one of those... Racist. Think about this. Think we know you have it think about this. The Rahal team is not good no right now.
01:20:05
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And I don't mean to have some friends over there. And I'm sorry that this is that the where they're at. But Sato comes in, qualifies second. no Again, like he's the fastest qualifying Rahal car. He gets this plane.
01:20:19
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He gets this place. It's not a different Honda engine from Japan. That's that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. He is just badass. He is badass. And so... I'm shocked to hear people don't like him because you'll never find a more personal guy, maybe Castro Nevis, but those guys are good for the sport.
01:20:38
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yeah right Now again, if either one of them win the Indy 500, how do you promote that to Detroit? Here are all the guys that didn't win. but you know Again, but this is the Indy 500. Correct. correct yeah It's a worldwide event.
01:20:50
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It's a worldwide event. I've always liked him. Always liked him. And now that he's starting second, I'm like, that's a good it's it's game on. Again, this is not a full-time crew. correct That's what you got to think about yeah in the pits. Now, they're good, but you've got to be good, what, five times? Six six or six. You've got to be on. how me Jeff, why does he not have a Godzilla card?
01:21:17
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Yeah, it's good call. That would be badass. That would be awesome. But that gives me a question for you. ah with all the With all the fanfare that goes on around the known drivers, you know, the premier drivers, Pato, Joseph, Colton Hurd, you know, all these guys that get all the press and all the all the hoopla,
01:21:42
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There's a whole bunch of other guys out there. Do you see personalities different from the guys that are always in the spotlight versus the guys that are doing the exact same things, grinding like everybody else that are just, oh, that's that's another driver?
01:22:01
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Yes. Different personalities. um Different. Everyone's different to a degree. Right. um I think Fox is doing a great job of promoting um drivers. i I think they can do more.
01:22:14
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Right. I think... so So people don't know Malukas. Right. Kid's hilarious. True. h true yeah Well, I mean, but he's not HMD anymore. Right. I mean, that's that's the Indy Lights program program. It's always going to be Indy Lights.
01:22:26
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um yeah Now, he is funny, and he's also very Scott Dixon-like. And... and and I'd say it if he was right here. I can't tell if he finished 18th or second. Right. You said that last week. Yeah, I did.
01:22:40
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Yeah. i'm I'm getting older. No, no. But that's what makes him a great guy. Yeah. And it's funny. And he also, he does these, you know, he'll do these. I don't do TikTok, but he'll do these social media posts, maybe Instagram, TikTok, that are just him being him. And like last year when he was out with a wrist injury and he was doing all those interviews on people.
01:23:01
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He gets it. Right. and And he's also majorly talented. So um he's one that I think, guys, you can promote him. You can promote, you know. Have him be a face. The new newer face. You can do that.
01:23:15
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um And you've got to go to the drivers and say. You've got to make stars. you You have to. have to make stars. Yeah. in the In the past, the stars, they just created themselves because they were around for 20, 30 years. Right.
01:23:26
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Right. These guys, it's like you, you have to hit the iron where the iron's hot.
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Right. And Fox, again, i said it last week, thank God they're our partner as well. Sure. Because they get it.
01:23:36
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They have a fresh, now you can say, well, it's the same, you know, people. Well, but, but their approach is different. Approach is different. Yeah. You know, it's not the NBC, Hey, we got to shape everything around the Olympics, which I get. that Right. I totally get that.
01:23:50
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Fox is saying, Let's go. yeah you know We're to do this. we're gonna We're going to lead in with NASCAR stuff. We're going to I don't know why pointed at UBR. ah wrong Wrong series. Yeah. I think it was a Kyle Larson thing. ah Probably.
01:24:04
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Yeah. I'm waiting for Dick Trickle.
01:24:08
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Why were you looking at me when you said that? I actually just had Dick Trickle, so we're good. It's because I think you threw a jar at him. um hit him in the eye. right so And it didn't hurt, hey Bryce but Bryce it didn't hurt that Fox host had the Super Bowl this year and they promoted it. I the Super Bowl party watching that and i'm thinking That's a sport that I'm in. five months away. And I'm thinking, I'm at a Super Bowl party there in Arizona, and everyone, you know, i'm there with Eagles fans, Chiefs fans, or whatever.
01:24:46
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And which I can care less than either team. I'm a Bucs guy, by the way. We can talk about it later. I know. You got that throwback, like, 78 jersey. That's sweet as shit. The orange one? The creamsicle? Yeah. When I was a kid, that's the first game we went to. The Doug Williams, right? That's sweet as shit. The creamsicle?
01:25:02
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Yeah. yeah So, no, going back to it, it was like that that is the partner you want that says, hey, if we're going to invest this money into it, let's promote let out of promote and and put it on one network. Okay, and FS1 or FS2, but it's all right there.
01:25:17
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yeah It's not on, hey, we're going to go to this network. Oh, we're because it's delayed or whatever. Yeah. i'm excited about yeah what's that do this this year's weather we we're not absolutely sure about it right now it's colder than bowls out there um it's gonna be like sunday's yes what what's that do to a race team like last like last year it got delayed what three four hours longer than that like whatever it was it got pushed back way what
01:25:47
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What is the race team doing during that? Tom, rephrase that. Are you are yeah preparing any differently? What fuck's going on? Are you preparing any differently or are you just going, fuck it, we're running at 5 instead of running at 1 o'clock? Edith, we appreciate that question. there's only There's only so many. Once the cars hit shit, it lands. There's only...
01:26:08
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so some There's only so many things you can do once the car gets the Yeah, but the weather changes, the way the is. Right, if you pull them back in the garage. Changes, i mean, everything changes. i I think if you are starting to second-guess yourself race morning, then you know paralysis by overanalysis.
01:26:24
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And that has happened. I will tell you, two years ago, we did a gear change on pit lane when we started fourth. And I remember being in the team meeting. Those those engineers are now gone.
01:26:36
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um but it was no but it's that's scary as hell bad choice but they did a gear change on and rocket was looking at him
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like okay and so they had rock the wheels back and forth rolling the dice right because that could that could be that could be that could be embarrassing all of a sudden your car doesn't even start starting forth and again someone who's non-engineer i'm looking at saying guys what the fuck we doing no well i again i'm looking at saying aren't we good yeah we should this should have been done we felt okay good we're p4 yeah and it turned out all right ended up third you know um that controversial restart whatever yeah and now you know it and we got relegated back to third which was the right to be honest it hurt but yeah it hurt When when you say Rocket was looking at you, IndyCar official? Yeah, cause they're coming out like, what are you guys doing? yeah And they're like, we've got a gear change. It's okay. It's legal.
01:27:27
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But you can't go out and do an install lap. You can't really yeah fire up the engine. So you're rocking it back and forth, changing the gears to make sure everything is going to work. that Man, that's dicey as shit. If I own a team, hell no. But again, I'm i'm so smart.
01:27:42
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Sure, sure. But okay, so that worked out. But okay, so talking about to do you answer your question. is I think the engineers are playing out every scenario saying, okay, if we have this, is our car ready? We've had all these days.
01:27:56
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Let's see how Friday goes. right you know a few years ago, in fact, that same year, we had an issue with the Chevy engine and we were we were like 30 seconds quick.
01:28:08
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And we were like, what's going on? I mean, Santino was freaking out. I was like, what'd you guys do to my race car? Getting power. And as a spotter, I'm thinking we're getting blown by. I mean, this is not good So anyway, there there are so many things that can happen. I mean, I try to decompress these last three days to try to get myself away from the race um as a spotter, because again, you're a caddy at 230 miles an hour. All you're doing is giving me information.
01:28:36
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no You didn't set the car up. You're not driving it. you're not um You're not the mechanic. You're not an engineer. You're just making sure you're giving him information. But but But you're in there with them. Right. And so to me, you you you feel it. So in other words, if those changes are made, they won't be made race morning. It's a good question, but it's one of those things where I think some teams are saying, right, this is what we have.
01:29:00
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Yeah. Right. And let's see where it goes. I mean, the forecast is what they're calling for early morning rain, potentially. Yep. Cooler temperatures would be great for the engines. you know yeah Mid 60s. That's cool. Quick race.
01:29:15
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Well, I think with this field, it'd be a quick race. I mean, again, i said it last Wednesday, this the talent of the field right is unbelievable. Sure. Yeah. Anyway, that's about that. Same question, different aspect. When you're going into... Let's see what happens here. That's what we asked you to do, Tom. As a part of that strategy, though...
01:29:37
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Do they scenario everything out before they go into race day in the event of this, in the event of this? yeah I guess that was my question. yeah they They have all those scenarios already planned out. How they're going to handle those situations. There's always some overpaid person. like, oh, here's the five things that might happen. Right. it's like Well, they're not overpaid. Yeah, we don't need you.
01:30:00
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and We need those with the five words. yeah we no They're overpaid in my world. They've run through every scenario. Our race morning meeting, actually it happens in every race. We'll go in
01:30:16
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And sometimes I guess I could consider myself not just a fly on the wall, but there's if there's information I hear like, hey, we're looking to pit between this lap and that la this lap and the next lap. And by the way, we're going to start on the primary tires. This is on a road course or the alternate tires.
01:30:31
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So then I look and I already know who's around us. So it's like, okay, in my mind, i can relay that information in my okay so in my headset this will kind of give you a little bit of it how that all plays out in my headset i have one channel to the race strategist and santino can't hear that he and i talk oh okay and then i have the other channel another button which is to the car which everyone can hear right so we are going back and forth And so if he says, hey, we're looking to pit in the next two laps, let me know you know if it's clear or not, who's around him, if we're losing time on the track.
01:31:10
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So those things all play out into strategy. So there's times I'm like, don't say anything if he's by himself. Now on an oval, he'll know. So they're playing out every scenario.
01:31:22
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If there is a yellow between this lap and this lap, we're going to do this. if there's a yellow between this lab and this lab, we're gonna do that. So they are they are playing out all these scenarios. yeah And then it's a matter of on the fly, what adjustments can we make?
01:31:37
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And I think where we're worse starting, more than likely, you follow the leaders. Follow, say, okay, who's in the top 10? This is, and hopefully we're there. This is what we're going to do. Oh, they pit.
01:31:49
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We're pitting. You know, and there's going to be, that's why there's times where you had a Wilson lead. Yeah, there's a Wilson lead for 30 laps. For Stingray last year, led for 30 laps. Right. They were an alternative strategy. They were hoping for another yellow.
01:32:03
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Could have worked out well for him It didn't. You know, and we got a bad set of tires in our third stop, relegated us back to 15th, moved up to 9th or 8th. yeah So all those things play out.
01:32:14
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and And the engineers are already, the race strategists, they're literally looking at all these scenarios. i mean, it is it's amazing. I mean. How much information is happening so quick. Right. I mean, it's still the driver's still driving the car. At the end of the day, it's him.
01:32:29
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Right. men And the crew. don't know about that. I have navigated ah like 19 beers at hooligans at IU and still figured out how to piss in the trough at that bar upright.
01:32:47
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It's not that hard, man. But at what time did you end up at Night Moves? But you weren't going 230 miles an hour to get to the trough either. He might have been going 230 at Night Moves. There's a lot of shit.
01:32:59
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last shit spent him when i was peeing that night but it might have been last shit spent might have been 2 30 a.m in the morning does that count yeah i don't know it's 3 a.m bitches was la bomba you must be lonely do you you weren't that much older than me yeah a bit disappointed so price you said you said in the meetings you know kind of leading up to you're a fly on the wall you're just trying to listen to what the strategy is going to be and what's going to come down
01:33:29
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up at the top yeah in the in the race day talk about the relationships that you have with the other spotters oh that's a great question and yeah i said it there go it a great question pr i love it sorry man i didn't buy our shows up for one fucking episode as the only one one question so at indy i will tell you this one thing we do talk about the strategy meetings like calling the green so i will call the green so i'll let them know you know pace car's you know, off of four pit lane, you know, leaders out of four, get ready, get ready, get ready.
01:34:02
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And then I'll hear it in my ear, but I also see the flag green, green, green. Now on the initial start, then I'm going to call it from then on. This is at Indy. So i'm going to call the traffic from then on because he's right in front of me on the restarts, my turn three spotter, or should say the team's turn three spotter,
01:34:17
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uh dane carter who's one of poncho's kids punch first kids he will call the restarts because the the restart zone is further back between three and four right but going back to your question um i gotta think about how so the relationship between other spotters is if during during yeah it is during practice you'll let people know you're pitting by waving your arm Okay, I'm definitely not doing that during the race. As a spotter? Yeah, during practice because you don't want to get run in the ass.
01:34:48
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yeah So you you let people know you're waving, basically saying, hey, we're pitting on this next lap because we hear it. Everybody pay attention. But in the race, we don't do that because i don't want to know. I don't want any other team to know we're pitting at all. Now, some people do it.
01:35:01
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I just, and then I'll go on the back backup channel they like you know to the crew chief and say, so-and-so's pitting. yeah Now, on other ovals, I'll see them laid out. like you know what I mean by that is the tires are all laid out and I will let them know and say, you know, Hey, the, uh, the 20 cars laid out, yeah eight cars. looks like they're coming in Yeah. They're coming in like at Milwaukee, Iowa, uh, you know, what, what have you on the short of Nashville, by the way, you guys need to get down in Nashville.
01:35:27
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I've heard that. some smell okay I've been an na that. Is that road course? No, no, no. It's the best thing that happened is the fact that they redid the Titan Stadium. So it put us back on the oval where we should be. It's where the series should finish. I got a two-seater ride down in Nashville several years ago.
01:35:46
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Yeah, I made a good one. It was fun. It was good time. do you guys go over the bump? and turn That was the start of the race, though, right? no uh is it different that was actually the same weekend i was in uh one of one of the pace cars yep in front the field yeah yeah yeah know that was a good weekend lincoln it it's a good track yep yeah i mean it's good what 30 minutes from nashville but no to go back br to your question is i really think that um yeah the communication between other spotters is if if we're off pace if something's wrong
01:36:21
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I can look at somebody, but we're tight in turn
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01:36:24
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one. There's 33 of us and it's a tight and an official. And so if I, I'm not going to run down and tell somebody, you know, Hey, you know,
01:36:32
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But there are times where if someone is does something stupid, I can look and like, yeah what have well, but at the same time, we're not driving the car. Have you ever wanted to fight somebody up there? Yes.
01:36:44
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Okay. Nice. So you let you also. Let's go. Were you going to box or wrestle? Yes. Well, of course I'm a wrestler, so I know my advantage. He's a wrestler. If I get them on the ground, they're toast.
01:36:59
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There's no reason for me to spar. so So you said your race strategist is in one year. Correct. Right? So so do you do you have a button? Have you ever... have you ever fuck did definitely hit the wrong button oh yeah it'd been like shit i didn't want to tell santino that well it it happens more along the lines where i'll hit the wrong button it happened more last year where i'm like all right copy that santina goes yeah copy what and then i just come back i'm like don't worry about it yeah you know like you're gonna keep driving because an engineer would tell me because i was really keep turning left the uh our engineer last year who's now on malucas's car and so at the milwaukee race i was really pushing santino to make some moves which i knew he could because the car was set up what i didn't realize on our last pit stop our tires did not they were not they were they were used tires yeah and on the
01:37:54
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the left channel, James came on the, on the radio and said, Hey, look, um, these tires, no, we need to hang out where we are. And remember we had a race the next day. And the last thing I want to do is have a tire go out. Cause I'm pushing him to get another position.
01:38:08
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Yeah. And so I go, yeah, copy that. And I said it in San Diego's copy. What? I go, yeah, that we're all good. Yeah. You know, like in other words, it's like, man, we're in the the moment. The worst thing that happened up there, to be honest with you, is your battery dies.
01:38:21
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And that happened to me in Milwaukee. Oh, wow. So again, and when I mentioned Robbie, fast. you got to yell really loud. So for some reason, I had i had older batteries and I didn't realize it.
01:38:33
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and And I put my, i put, they were all new, but they, or i'm shouldn't say they were charged, but I had my backup battery in my backpack in the back part of the upper deck. That's brilliant.
01:38:44
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Yeah. but not you know it's like what am i thinking but it wasn't the longest race and never ran out of batteries even though you're talking a lot you never run out of batteries right and like nassberg guys do and so all of a sudden i hear this beep beep and i just go on the crew channel larry was called larry foy was calling the strategy i go changing batteries taking for two laps and and i'm like this and robbie luckily robbie fast had a battery the same kind of radio and he goes he saw me scrambling plopped it right in i'm like that's awesome and i looked down like Thank you.
01:39:14
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And I go, all right, I'm back. And he goes, cool. That's all Santino said. Cool. yeah I was like, all right, we're good. So, and i yeah. That's awesome. I'm i'm proposing this as a group on the fly.
01:39:27
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Yeah. So we do joke the week. Yeah. I think we cut this because we're about an hour 45. Yeah. about an hour 45. Play Jarts in the Dark? Is that what you're proposing?
01:39:38
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Then we go another another segment like ah favorite track memories. Ooh, I like it. Yeah. Yeah. and I gotta find joke of the week though.
01:39:48
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I feel like I need an intro. We gotta announce this formally. feel like need an intro. oh oh Do you need an intro? feel like It is now time for the ever popular part of the show.
01:40:10
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joe This is why I told you you didn't want to see it in person. do ah
01:40:22
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All right, here we go, boys. Fresh off a listener line. oh Uh-oh. And straight out of motherfucking Utah. Was it a party line?
01:40:34
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No, ah Big Cat has listened to a year's worth of episodes in the last two weeks. Oh, no way. That poor guy. he has Is he that fucking bored?
01:40:44
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Apparently. He's got free time with the job. Yes. And also has opinions. Okay. but Surprise. So we're we're going here. ah Fresh off the Listern line.
01:40:58
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In Utah. yeah For Joke the Week. Yes. also looked up some stats on this. It's probably a good thing you're sleeping here tonight. Can you get to the joke? No, I can't.
01:41:11
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ah What does a lesbian pirate say? In Utah. In Utah. So while you think about that, Oh, okay.
01:41:21
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I'm going give you some. You cannot throw us two jokes at one time. No, this isn't a joke. What does a lesbian pi pirate say? No, no, no. Arr. It's not arr. It's not arr.
01:41:32
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Subaru. This isn't a joke, but to help you think a little bit, ah from 2023 census in Utah, two point eight percent Of the population are lesbians?
01:41:46
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Or pirates. Identify themselves as gay. It's pirates. Okay. but But that's boy and girl, so it's not oh so not straight and lesbian. It's probably 1.9% lesbian. What's that got to do with the joke of the week?
01:41:59
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6.9%. No, I was just trying to... What the fuck does that have to do with talk of the week? I don't know, Jeff. There's a percentage of lesbians in Utah. Tone down the dick here a little bit so we can get through the joke, man.
01:42:09
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In Utah. what does a lesbian What does a lesbian pirate say? What does a lesbian pirate say? Instead of R, goes blah, blah, blah, blah. We'll just end this right now.
01:42:21
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ah Okay. I can't wait. Scissor me timbers. Yeah.
01:42:27
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Wow. And just think, you hung out all this time. Helen Keller also did that. Yeah, I'm sure she did. And her dog. it's wild first Thanks for hanging out with us.
01:42:40
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I hope if you're going to the Indy 500, you have the time of your life. If you're not, make sure you watch it on TV because no matter where you're at, you're going to be able to see it even live at Indy. Oh, that's nice.
01:42:51
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So cool. Until next week, I am Tom. RIP, Jim Mercy. RIP, George Wentz. Bryce, I'm here. Go Santino. There you go. Let's F a go Santino.
01:43:08
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Apparently, I'm by our enjoy the race. Apparently, you are. You survived another episode. Send us an email at foursolidbeers at gmail.com for show ideas and input. Until next week, cheers.