John Talty is an award-winning national college sports reporter for CBS Sports. He is the Wall Street Journal best-selling author of his book, "The Leadership Secrets of Nick Saban: How Alabama's Coach Became the Greatest Ever." Armen Keteyian is an 11-time Emmy award-winning television journalist, previously a CBS News correspondent and a Sports Illustrated writer-reporter. John and Armen are co-authors of their book, “The Price: What It Takes to Win in College Football’s Era of Chaos.”

John and Armen join Now It’s Legal to discuss their co-authored book that includes an in-depth dive into the “Wild West” of college athletics: NIL, endorsements, the transfer portal and the effect this chaos has on premier college coaches and athletes.
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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this summer and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

John Talty & Armen Keteyian - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale - S3E2

Diego Pavia is currently a quarterback for the Vanderbilt University Commodores. He previously played for New Mexico State, leading them to a 10-5 record which included beating Auburn. In December 2023, Diego entered the transfer portal before transferring to Vanderbilt in January 2024. He led the Commodores to the Birmingham Bowl, their first bowl game since 2018, where he was named MVP. Diego also led the team to an upset victory against Alabama — the program's first win over Alabama since 1984.  

Diego joins Now It’s Legal to discuss winning an injunction against the NCAA, allowing him to enter the transfer portal and play in 2025.

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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this spring and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

Diego Pavia - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale - S3E1

Johnny Manziel is a former NFL quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. Out of high school, he was nationally recruited as a redshirt freshman for Texas A&M. He broke numerous NCAA Division I FBS and SEC records, including being the first freshman and fifth player in NCAA history to pass for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in one season, and was the first freshman to win the Heisman Trophy, the Manning Award and the Davey O'Brien Award. Johnny was selected by the Browns in the 2014 NFL draft as the 22nd overall pick, playing for two seasons.  Johnny joins Now It’s Legal to discuss his nationally recognized and record-breaking college football career and his perspective of playing in the NCCA.  
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About Now It's Legal  
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.      
We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.      

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.      

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.      

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E10 - Johnny Manziel - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Gloria Nevarez is the second commissioner in the history of the Mountain West Conference, with almost 30 years of experience in college athletics. Previously, she had been the fourth full-time commissioner of the West Coast Conference and is the first Hispanic American to become a commissioner of an NCAA Division I conference. Prior to her WCC commissioner role, Gloria was an administrator at the WCC, the Pac-12 Conference, University of Oklahoma, University of California, Berkeley and San Jose State University.

Gloria joins Now It’s Legal to discuss her comprehensive five-year strategic plan, “Ascend Together: Our Path to Excellence”, which showcases the league’s core values-based principles: Competitive Excellence, Academic Achievement, Integrity, Relentless Drive, and Community and Inclusion.
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About Now It's Legal

In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E9 - Gloria Nevarez - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Tim Pernetti is the commissioner of the American Athletic Conference and former director of intercollegiate athletics at Rutgers University. From 1994 to 2003, Tim worked for ABC Sports and held several media positions, and from 2001 to 2009, he was a football analyst for Rutgers Football and Sports USA Radio’s NFL coverage. In 2009, Tim became the youngest director of intercollegiate athletics in college sports — overseeing 24 sports, business engagements, NCAA relationships, the Big East/Big Ten Conference, donors and alumni.

Tim joins Now It’s Legal to discuss his role as the commissioner of the American Athletic Conference, as well as his career as director of intercollegiate athletics at Rutgers University — and highlighting the importance of building these relationships in the NCAA.

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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E8 - Tim Pernetti - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Malcolm Jenkins is a former NFL player and Super Bowl champion. After earning All-American honors during his college football career at Ohio State University, and winning the Jim Thorpe Award, he was a first round draft pick for the New Orleans Saints in 2009. From 2014 - 2019, Malcolm played for the Philadelphia Eagles, winning a Super Bowl ring in 2018. He returned to New Orleans in 2020 before announcing his retirement in 2022.

Malcolm joins Now It's Legal to discuss The Malcolm Jenkins Foundation, a nonprofit charity with the goal to create positive change in youths' lives by providing resources and opportunities that will help them succeed, as well as the Players Coalition, which he co-founded with retired NFL wide receiver Anquan Boldin, to organize NFL players’ fight for social and racial equality.

Buy Malcolm's Book: https://a.co/d/eNqWEK2
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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E7 - Malcolm Jenkins - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Sandy Barbour is a former athletic director who served at the Pennsylvania State University, the University of California, Berkeley and Tulane University. In 2020, Sandy was on Sports Illustrated’s "The Unrelenting" list of powerful, influential and outstanding women in sports, and has been recognized by Forbes as one of the top executives in sports. Sandy is a member of the NCAA Football Oversight Committee and represents the Big Ten Conference on the NCAA Division I Council.

Sandy joins Now It’s Legal to discuss her involvement in the NCAA Football Oversight Committee and the NCAA Division I Council, making decisions that focus on enhancing the overall student-athlete experience and promoting athletes’ personal growth and leadership development.
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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E6 - Sandy Barbour - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Jack Swarbrick is the former athletic director at the University of Notre Dame. During Jack’s 28 years of practicing law, he was a partner at Baker & Daniels and represented USA gymnastics as general counsel. He then served as Notre Dame’s athletic director from 2008 through 2024, experiencing many on-and off-the-field athletic achievements. He was also a member of the 2023 Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing on NIL.  

Jack joins Now It’s Legal to discuss his initiatives to improve the college athletics model and overall student-athlete experience, including working with Congress to provide competitive equity across collegiate sports.
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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E5 - Jack Swarbrick - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Matt Barnes is a former NBA player and current basketball analyst. He played college basketball at UCLA, where he was an All-Pacific-10 Honorable Mention selection in 2001, before being drafted by the Memphis Grizzlies in the second round of the 2002 NBA draft. In his final season of a 14-season career, he won an NBA championship with the Golden State Warriors in 2017. Matt is currently a basketball analyst for ESPN and NBC Sports California for Sacramento Kings games.  

Matt joins Now It's Legal to discuss his basketball journey, as well as his new book, "All the Smoke: All the Stars, All the Stories, No Apologies" with co-author and former NBA player Stephen Jackson, released on October 8, 2024.
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About Now It's Legal
In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.    

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.    Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.    

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.    

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

Resources:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/research/Finances/2023RES_DI-RevExpReport_FINAL.pdf

S2E4 - Matt Barnes - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

Episode 3 of Now It's Legal takes place in Wellin Hall at Hamilton College in Clinton, NY. On Monday, September 9, 2024, Jim joined Jeremy Foley, University of Florida’s Athletic Director, and Amy Perko, CEO of Knight Commission On Intercollegiate Athletics, in a conversation focused on the uncertain future of college sports. As the model shifts from amateurism to pay-for-play, there are questions surrounding Title IX mandates and gender equity, the impact on Division III athletes and college athletics' financial sustainability.
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About Now It's Legal In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.  

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.  

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.  

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.  

Tune in to a new episode on Wednesdays this fall and join in on the conversation on Instagram with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

S2E3 - Hamilton College - Now It's Legal with Jim Cavale

In July 2021, NIL forever changed the trajectory of college athletics. It’s been a long time coming as the NCAA has long needed changes like NIL, the transfer portal, revenue sharing and other benefits for college athletes.

We introduce to you the Now It’s Legal podcast. Join us as we discuss the industry that holds the hearts of millions of fans who want to understand where its trajectory is heading. We are talking to those who are invested in and affected by NIL including: Former and current college athletes, presidents and head coaches, broadcasters and media personalities, investors and more. This is just the beginning of NIL and what it means for the future of college athletics.

Host Jim Cavale is a former college athlete and entrepreneur who has become an advocate for young athletes across the country. In 2017, he created the INFLCR app that allowed athletes to build their brand on social media, and in 2021, evolved into the NIL management technology for more than 100,000 athletes across 200 college athletic programs. INFLCR has since been acquired by sports tech titan, Teamworks.

In 2023, Jim founded Athletes.org [http://athletes.org/] which which is the players association for college athletes to negotiate the best terms for their college athletics experience. AO provides its member athletes with a free membership, empowering them with a voice, on demand support, and group licensing income in the same ways that professional league associations do for their member athletes.

Tune in to a new episode every Wednesday and join in on the conversation on social with @nowitslegalpod and @jimcavale.

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