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Episode 52 - This was Proper Head Noise HQ
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A massive week for New Zealand golf fans with three wins across respective tours. The lads also discuss a host of topics including Rory, Nick Dunlap, grown men giving high fives and is JT back?
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Introduction and Personal Updates
00:00:15
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to the After Tips Podcast. I appreciate you tuning in and AC as New Zealand, the greatest golfing nation on earth this week. Thanks for joining in from London.
00:00:28
Speaker
We've had a couple of these weeks, haven't we? Great stuff from the Kiwis. We had one close to Christmas, I think, where we cleaned up too. So, outstanding stuff, mate. How are you? Mate, going great.
Lydia Ko's Performance: Is She Back?
00:00:43
Speaker
I was just, you know, barking to 10 of my na'iwi in the office this morning when
00:00:48
Speaker
When all those results were coming across my desk, it was great to see. Especially Lydia Ko being back, but nothing's really new on the side of Tasman. It's pretty much been lock the doors and stay inside. It's just been...
00:01:04
Speaker
unbelievably. It's been sort of like so. Here's the weather chat again. Yeah, but like, it's holding me back from, you know, doing anything real exciting. But what about you, mate? Just parked up in London. I bet if we're keeping on the weather chat, I bet it's brisk.
00:01:24
Speaker
Well, yeah, I'm all right, mate. I must say I'm pretty bored at the moment. I'm unemployed. There's just not a lot going on in my life at the moment. And I don't have the funds or funds in the future to be able to go for a ski trip or do something exciting. So, yeah, it's a tough scene at the moment. Oh, why did Deb in the mood? That's all good. It'll come.
00:01:52
Speaker
No, yeah, it'll work itself out and look, we'll just rip and tear into the golf chat. Lydia Cohen's a tournament of champions at Lake Nona Golf and Country Club in her now native Orlando. Look, A.C., I just want to ask you, is Lydia back or have we said this before?
00:02:16
Speaker
Good question. I think maybe we need to see a little bit more, but it's definitely good signs, obviously. After last year. So can you explain to me how she's in the Tournament of Champions when she didn't do anything last year? It's the winners from the last two seasons. So those wins in 2022 got her in this year. And obviously if she had had another bad year this year, she wouldn't be playing it next year. So look, now that she's
00:02:46
Speaker
got the kind of monkey off her back. And in saying that, a year of not winning in golf is not a long time, is it really? Yeah, no. I think the concerning thing last year was that she wasn't contending much either. She was just way off her best. And yeah, I agree with you in that winning gets kind of blown up to be way easier than it is. It was kind of the nature of the way she was bowing our tournaments. It never really felt like she was in the hunt at many.
00:03:15
Speaker
Yeah, well her and Jason Day won that team event towards her back in the last year. And it's, and she came out and said, it gave her a little bit of that taste of, you know, being in contention and winning again. And she started to find her feet after that and a little bit of a break from pro golf. She just kept grinding and look, she'd come out in the first event of the year and one. So look, can you say she's back? Probably, probably not, but man, it's a step in the right direction, isn't it?
00:03:43
Speaker
Yeah, completely agree. I must
Kazumba Kaburui's First Win and Future
00:03:46
Speaker
say it was very hard to find coverage of this. It was and it wasn't. It was just like middle of the night sort of stuff here and kind of only three hour blocks of coverage. You don't get the, you know, the wake up in the morning stuff like you do with the PGA tour. But from what I saw, like it was pretty impressive stuff from Lydia. Just kind of didn't really look endowed on the last day and
00:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, great signs going forward. And as established, Lydia wasn't the only Kiwi triumphing around the world with Kazumba Kaburui winning the Weget Webex players series Murray River in honor of the late, great Jared Lyle and his first professional win. He's obviously won on the Aussie tour before, but
00:04:34
Speaker
What I liked is, you know, he had that lead at the Vic PGA and he kind of blew away, I think it was five or six shots. And next time he's in contention, he's just come out of one. It just shows that the scar tissue wasn't there and he just
00:04:51
Speaker
essentially got out and got the job done. A.C. I just want to get your thoughts on, I absolutely know you wouldn't have seen this because I think it was only covered in Australia and it was only late kind of Saturday and Sunday that was shown so it was hard to get a real good gauge on his entire week but my partner is just looking at the scorecards but just from what you know about him, how do you think he's going to go when he
00:05:16
Speaker
I think it's gonna happen that he's gonna make a job to one of these big circuits. How do you think he will compete? How do you think he'll compete? Yeah, that's a bit out of my pay grade, but one thing I do know about him is that he seems to front, and I know that sounds really simplistic, but
00:05:37
Speaker
He's always seems to be in contention. He's won a lot as an amateur. And I think those people tend to just continue that on. If you're a winner, it feels like a mindset. The one thing that could hold him back is distance. I haven't got to watch him play a lot, but you hear that he's not a big hitter.
00:05:59
Speaker
and obviously that's a premium unfortunately in the men's game so I don't know if if he does say get a card on the DP tour
00:06:08
Speaker
He may just have to be a bit more picky with what venues he goes to, but at the same time, he seems to make it work. Yeah, he just essentially, without taking away anything from his premium ball striking, he just puts the lights out as well. Like he's just, when he gets on these tours, you know, the casual golf fan and stuff are going to actually see just how good this guy is at rolling his rockets. Like it.
00:06:35
Speaker
I don't actually think I've, I've barely seen anyone roll it better. I'm like in person. It's just so effortless and flawless to watch whenever I've kind of followed him at events. So I think that is just what's going to set him apart when he moves into the professional level. But you're right about him picking and choosing his venues. That, that could work, but you never know. Like we'll chat about this rolling the ball back. And then there's rumors about.
00:07:03
Speaker
rolling the driver back could absolutely suit a goal like this, but not taking away from what he's achieved already at such a young age. I think we're, we're about to witness something pretty special.
00:07:15
Speaker
It's hard to argue with that. And yeah, I, I just think the weight of wins he's had is something you just can't ignore. Absolutely.
Steven Elka's Success on Senior Tour
00:07:23
Speaker
And that order of merit race is really, really tightly congested on the PGA tour of Australasia and he's riding contention and it's going to go down to the wire and the New Zealand open is one of those events that they're going to have to go to. So look, hope.
00:07:40
Speaker
Hopefully he just keeps his form up and, you know, shakes it up at the New Zealand Open like he did last year, tied for sixth, low amateur. And if he keeps, even if he does that over there, man, he's really flirting with one of those three DP World Tour cards. And then, mate, once you're over there, you're always a chance, aren't you? Yeah. Well, the DP Tour has just got so many opportunities now. Obviously the prize money is backed by the PGA Tour.
00:08:08
Speaker
And then you've also got the PGA Tour cards they give out. And then from there you've got the churn as well. So with the better players leaving, you've just got more opportunities for yourself. So I think that that pathway for Kiwis and Aussies now, obviously three is not a lot of cards, but I think it's going to be really good for people in this side of the world. Yeah, it's awesome.
00:08:34
Speaker
Like I said, I'm actually really looking forward to that race that's heading up over here. It's going to be awesome to watch the back end of the season to see who does pick up those cards. But mate, the other Kiwi that got the job done and probably has been the most consistent consistent Kiwi golfer over the last kind of two or three years is Steven Elka won again on the champions tour. And look, man, you aren't going to pretend that we tune into watching heaps of those senior tour events, but it just
00:09:04
Speaker
It just shows how fickle the game of golf is and like those courses can just get 20 to 30 yards shorter when you go to that senior tour and you can kind of be a perennial journeyman and now he's just out there absolutely flogging all of these greats. It's
Kiwi Golfers in International Competitions
00:09:23
Speaker
impressive to see and he's just going to keep doing it.
00:09:27
Speaker
Yeah, we've talked about that a lot. Just how the, yeah, the names that he's beaten is quite staggering. Like you, I actually, you put in the chat, something about Alcatraz this morning. I was still sort of a bit dazed and I didn't even know what the hell you're talking about until I finally clicked that it was Steve Alka. So yeah, that's how much I was tuning into that event. Awesome for Kiwi Golf and he's going to be back at the New Zealand Open in a couple of weeks too. And man, accuracy around Millbrook could
00:09:57
Speaker
can always help, so you just never know. The old man might front
Rory McIlroy's Comeback at the Dubai Desert Classic
00:10:02
Speaker
up. Yeah, I think he had a very good chance finishing top 20. I like that, mate. But yeah, anyway, the DP World Tour had the Dubai Desert Classic in action, and, jeez, Rory just erased a pretty mammoth 36-hole deficit to get the job done. As soon as I kind of saw him, well, I thought, bundle out of contention on that second day,
00:10:27
Speaker
I even had to ask him out cricket. I was like, did he even make the cut? And they're like, yeah. And then I'm tuning in. He's just absolutely just making birdies left, right and center on Saturday. And he's only a couple of shots back on Sunday. And Cameron Young has a poor day on the tools and Rory didn't exactly have his best day out. He's still got the job done.
00:10:55
Speaker
Yeah, interesting tournament. He was 10 shots back two days in. Obviously, shooting nine under on Saturday just got him straight back into contention. But yeah, interesting, just sort of interesting the way it all unfolded. Rory said that he thought after Friday that if he shot two 67s, he was a chance. And he proved to be right. He ended up shooting 11 under and one by one. But I think it was staggering even the fact that he was leading by
00:11:25
Speaker
three shots at some stages yesterday maybe even four at one point that's just i just don't even know it's hard to reconcile how that even happened from where he was yeah i i don't get it either and just from watching yesterday just nobody seemed like they wanted to win that event did they the course was definitely a lot trickier than it was the the first three days it was
00:11:54
Speaker
Those grains are very slippery.
00:11:56
Speaker
The rough looked very unpredictable, chipping around the greens. There was a lot of sort of head scratching. Some were coming out pretty dead. We saw Rory on 16, came out really hot. 17, sorry. But yeah, fourth one in Dubai. He's got a bit of a love affair with this place. 34th win for Rory in 395 starts. Impressive his longevity. And the fact that he wins 9% of the time
00:12:25
Speaker
is bloody good going when you think about how many eras he's played across sort of now and also just the fact that there's always a young gun chasing him and he's still managed to be one of the best in the world. Yeah just the way he's kind of progressed and looked after himself differently as he's gotten older and man he's just always adapted with the times it's just man like he doesn't even look like he's remotely aging.
00:12:55
Speaker
Like maybe to look at, but like his golf game is just continually almost improving. I completely agree with that. The final round turning point was eight and nine. So that's the first and third hardest hole on the golf course. He made two birdies there. So that was
Cameron Young's Potential: Can He Succeed?
00:13:13
Speaker
a big leg up on the field and then kind of inexplicably on 10 and 13, the 18th, the easiest hole on the course and the 16th easiest hole on the course, the par fives.
00:13:25
Speaker
he goes par and bogey and at that point I was like Rory that's just not on but he just sort of rode the ship he did get a little bit of luck I feel he made a few bad swings down the stretch off mainly just the left ball off the tee and he always had a slight opening he had to execute some shots but definitely wasn't a vintage Rory performance on Sunday but he managed to get it done not at all but that it's exactly kind of what he did last year I remember us saying on this podcast that
00:13:57
Speaker
He had a C game last year and man, it was probably fairly similar on Sunday. It was pretty close to being his A game on Saturday though. It doesn't really get much better than that. And, you know, there's Cam Young's been in contention a few times and just not wanted it. Do you think he's starting to get that reputation?
00:14:20
Speaker
Potentially, he hasn't won yet. Given the talent and how kind of hyped he is, I don't think it's concerning yet. But if he goes another year and he fluffs a few on the final round, I think it is a bit concerning. The way he performed at St Andrews though in the Open was very impressive. But there's been some other opportunities that he's kind of let slip through the fingers.
00:14:47
Speaker
That's coming up to two years ago now and like this guy was kind of pigeonholed to be almost immoral on that Ryder Cup side. And I just, I don't see why that hype is still relevant. Like he, he's a big strapping American that hits the ball really, really well. But man, there's so many of those guys out there and he just has shown that he had as incapable of getting over the line.
00:15:17
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I think you're being harsh. He's still very young in his pro career, but I do think this year's a bit of a stand-up sort of year for him. He needs to knock something off of significance. Hey, I saw him. He does nothing for me emotionally. I just feel nothing when that guy plays golf. He doesn't do it for me either, you know, the major league baseball badges on his collar. He is sporting a good mullet at the moment, which, you know,
00:15:47
Speaker
I'm always around, but yeah, just, you say you feel nothing emotionally, but it looks like he feels nothing emotionally either. He just looks like he's got the same look on his face and look, maybe one day that's going to play into his hands. But I do think you could see him getting frustrated when those putts, you know,
00:16:12
Speaker
weren't dropping and stuff like that. But yeah, as a golfer, look, there's just, I just feel like there's so many of those Cameron Young type golfers floating around and there always will be. Yeah, I
Golfing Techniques and Emotional Gameplay
00:16:26
Speaker
like golfers that express themselves. Actually not just golfers, just sportsman people. It's definitely more exciting as a fan. Hey, Rory had a few belly wedges down the stretch. Do you have that in your bag?
00:16:40
Speaker
Or see, as a man who's kind of coming out the other side of the chipping yips, a belly wedge was actually a play I opted for a couple of times. Would I say I'm that good at it?
00:16:58
Speaker
No, but I'd say I do have it in the bag if I really needed to because I started practicing it a little bit because I had so much head noise on the grains.
00:17:12
Speaker
And I even had a bit of head noise putting from the fringe. Like, mate, this was proper head noise HQ. Like, people get the Sunday scaries after I've had a few too many scares. I was getting the Sunday scaries when I had any sort of wedge in my paws. But yeah,
Fan Behavior at Golf Tournaments
00:17:35
Speaker
in short, I think I kind of have it in the bag, but like,
00:17:41
Speaker
There'd be three or four options now that I'd choose before it. What about you, mate? No, I don't. I always find you have to swing a lot harder than you think because it's not like when you knife one. It's a very different feeling. I actually have a bit of yarn, so we have belly bunion and we have this caddy and
00:18:03
Speaker
So when we were in Ireland, what would happen is the rough was so penal that you'd have like doubles and triples so easily. So I was kind of got to the point where I was like, okay, scores out the window. I just want to play like 13, 14 good holes on these golf courses and just kind of look at it like that. And if I make like one or two birdies, I'll be pumped.
00:18:26
Speaker
And so we were on 16 at Ballybunyan, par five, had a six iron in, hit this thing all over this flag but there's this false front and it probably was at one point like eight feet away from the flag and then rolled kind of forward and to the left.
00:18:44
Speaker
And so I was nestled up against the collar and I really wanted to make a birdie and I was like, this is a tough shot though. And my Caddy's instructions are I'll get an A-Tine out and like belly it. And I was like, OK, yeah, I haven't played the shot. Probably shouldn't, but I'll give it a go. Not really. Not really. Yeah. And I was like, I'll probably give it a go. And I just didn't hit it hard enough. Rolled back down.
00:19:14
Speaker
into a divot and then I was like, oh no, this isn't good. And then, so I kind of chopped down one, like half knife that went long and then three putted. And that was the angriest I've been on our island trip. Man, I was salty. I was like, why did you try play a shot you've never played before? When I could have like probably jabbed something onto the green, had a birdie putt. But yeah, that's my sort of one and only attempt at a belly wedge.
00:19:44
Speaker
oh wow um maybe that's something you can i'm i'm sure there'd be do you have a backyard where you live nah it might be i could probably do it in the hallway yeah start yeah you just yeah look i'm not going to start handing out advice on how to play those no please don't i don't want you to because uh look mate i was i don't really i don't really know but yeah the eight iron was a
00:20:13
Speaker
I don't know about adine being the club for it. The leading edge just
Nick Dunlap's Amateur Win on PGA Tour
00:20:17
Speaker
isn't big enough for me. Yeah, it was quite steep. So I think it needed a little bit more grunt behind it than a... It was just a tough, it was tough shot. Anything up against the collar of a ruff, the ruff is just yuck. Did you ever consider, you know, maybe flipping your putter over and getting the nose on it?
00:20:41
Speaker
my one's bad for that i've obviously got the honesty with like the spikes that's the other issue if you've if you've got something behind you it's those those all spiky things just grab the fangs or whatever they call them i don't know what they yeah
00:20:59
Speaker
Yeah that's some dribble but one thing just I don't know if you have anything else to add on the Dubai event but just just want to get your comms on on Grand Men getting high fives from pros. Yeah I remember.
00:21:17
Speaker
bringing this up in the group chat and look, I personally can't get around it. Well, like definitely not sober, but look man, if you've had a few and you're hanging your hand over a
00:21:34
Speaker
barricade look pass mark but yeah but but if you're going out of your way and like crawling over kids to get a to get a bit of skin from from one of the professional golfers not on absolutely yeah that is a real gripe when you see them leaning past over kids and obviously kids are gonna have much smaller reach what are you doing mate grow up yeah i couldn't agree more it's it's up there with some of the
00:22:04
Speaker
some of the worst behavior and a little bit like airports, golf courses bring out, golf tournaments bring out some of the worst kind of humans. But yeah, and I can't imagine those guys hanging over for high fives in Dubai and had that many beers behind them. I'm pretty sure it's pretty hard to get your hands on a couple of sconers around there. Yeah, I don't have a lot to add on that. I agree with you. It's not good. Well, mate, the kind of the final event of the
00:22:35
Speaker
weekend that was, turns out to be a pretty big weekend. The Gulf was the PGA Tour, the American Express, which was won by an amateur, a college sophomore out of Alabama, Nick Dunlap, first amateur since 1991 to win on the PGA Tour, since Phil Mickelson. Man, like pretty impressive, just quietly.
00:23:02
Speaker
That's an understatement. I tuned into quite a lot of the final round and it was interesting. So on seven, it's a short par four, you can hit like a driving iron, five wood off the tee. And he just wiped this thing right into the water. Never was a chance, almost looked like a shank.
00:23:24
Speaker
And at that point, I thought, oh, here we go. He's the classic where the amateur's wheels are just going to fall off. But credit to him, he just steadied the ship and he just hung around. Burns made a big mistake on 17, hitting that in the water.
00:23:41
Speaker
At that point, I was actually asleep. I thought Burns had it wrapped up, but I watched the last two holes this morning. Yeah, I just thought the way he handled himself and the same group as JT and Sam Burns, who are two established players and who both made a few costly mistakes. I just thought it was a real sign of maturity. Yeah, Chosie's made of the right stuff, doesn't he? Yeah. I was ultra impressed with what I saw, even getting up and down on 18.
00:24:12
Speaker
Look, he had a lot of green to work with and had, I don't know, about six feet for the win. Man, like that's six feet when he was standing over it. I bet that looked like about 26 feet. And he just stood up, didn't take his time and just banged it straight in the heart. And like you, you took the words right out of my mouth about holding off a couple of pretty Premier players, both Ryder Cup players, Major winner WGC winner, like,
00:24:41
Speaker
Man, and that leads me to my question here. If you're in Nick Dunlap shoes, you know, you've got a couple of years of college left, but you've now got this two-year exemption on the PGA Tour. Are you just turning pro? I think you are, aren't you? It's not something I'll maybe have to deal with, but I will.
00:25:05
Speaker
I'd be. No, you're finished. Hey, what? What happens with the money? I was thinking of that. Just goes to, where's it go? Yeah. Oh, Christian. Poseidon. Poseidon. Good. I fucking always butcher his name and he's always on leadables. I need to get better out of actually, but he, yeah, he just gets the coin. So good day. Beautiful. Yeah. Hmm.
00:25:33
Speaker
Yeah, so... A bit of coin he's missed out on though. 2.1 Australian. A million Australian is... Yeah, that's going towards your college fees. One thing, I don't know if you heard the interview, they were interviewing his parents and they were obviously quite emotional. This was during the round that he'd even kind of got to that stage.
00:25:58
Speaker
And, uh, they were like, how, when did you know he was really good? And the head goes, Oh, he shot 59 when he was 12. Wow.
Jon Rahm's Move to Liv: Impact on Golf
00:26:07
Speaker
That's, I was like, jeez. Yeah. That you'd know your son's pretty good if he did that. He won the tournament by 13 shots. He very nearly shot 59 on Saturday on the PGA. He had 60. I couldn't actually believe what I was saying.
00:26:25
Speaker
his old man dropped that so casually as well and I was there just sort of rattled like did he just say 59 oh man yeah it's I didn't I genuinely didn't think I'd ever see that in my lifetime
00:26:42
Speaker
Yeah. I, I thought like those days were so long gone, but good to know that they're not, but admittedly it's been what, 33 years between drinks. So who knows who's going to be the next.
00:26:58
Speaker
The college system is just so good at unearthing talent though, and it's... They play so... They're so professional at that age, so... You've seen a few of them make the leap. Winning is obviously another step, but you do see them kind of come out of college and getting contention. They don't seem to be scared of the big moments. A couple of other notes I had... I think JT's back. I'm declaring JT back.
00:27:27
Speaker
A couple of bad swings on the par-fives. He hit two in the drink. But they were both going for flags with long irons in his hand, which makes me think he's confident. It's a weird way of looking at it, but they were aggressive plays. They were plays that JT does when he's swinging it well. He said he feels like he can hold shots at the moment. And I'm like, that's on. Man, he just looked like he
00:27:54
Speaker
was just carrying himself a hole. He had some swagger. He had some swagger. That's the good way of putting it. He was strutting around. He was chatting shit to Dunlap today. He just looked like, yeah. Look, I want to see personally a little bit more a few maybe tournaments strung together before I declare him back. But man, like
00:28:19
Speaker
If you had a gun to my head and asked me if he was going to win again this year, I'd say yes. I was thinking during this event with the final round, Cal, how important is it that JT and Spieth are relevant this year with Rahm gone? Look, I think it's huge. Someone needs to fill that void. Man, I think they're obviously different characters to Rahm, but both
00:28:49
Speaker
both have they all three of them have that you know outspoken nature they're all always quite animated in front of the camera so losing ram is obviously a big loss not not just in the sense of being a quality golfer but i think you're right um jt and speith could be two of those guys that fill that void but you want them i i just don't see them competing as consistently as we saw john ram personally we'll speak particularly
00:29:19
Speaker
I agree with the consistency thing. I guess what I was thinking during the round is that if they do have good years, I think it will go a long way for the PGA Tour. Two really charismatic guys, they're fun to watch, they put bums on seats, and I just think it's so important they have a good year this year. For themselves and for the Tour. Do you think John Rahm was
00:29:46
Speaker
bringing in as many people to seats as maybe made out.
Player Personalities and Dynamics
00:29:54
Speaker
I actually think he kind of right with that. He's not someone I get hugely excited by. I love watching him play golf, but he's not. He wouldn't be in my top 10 favourite players probably. Yeah, I don't know about that. That's why, obviously, big signing for Liv, but man,
00:30:16
Speaker
Is that really broadening your audience? Like maybe a little, maybe obviously in Spain it probably is, but that's such a small percentage of the market for such a, a lot of money. Yeah, it's, look, it's another story in itself, but I actually, if Ram just stopped winning,
00:30:41
Speaker
PGA Tour events and kind of was just top 20 getting off. If Ram just kind of stopped winning PGA and DP World Tour events and was just consistently top 20, top 30, would we really be talking about it or would we really be missing him contending? Like me personally, I wouldn't be. Yeah, it's an interesting conversation.
00:31:09
Speaker
The thing that's kind of more compelling about Rahm is he's just got that bit of a serial killer vibe about him. He just looks like he wants to stomp on throats and that's kind of what he's exciting for rather than JT and Spieth who are quite, as I said before, charismatic. They love sort of entertaining. I wouldn't say Rahm's an entertainer.
00:31:34
Speaker
No, he's got mongrel in him and I think JT does as well. And speaking to a degree, you don't pinch three mongrels, you don't pinch three mongrels, you don't pinch three majors without having a bit of, you know, mongrel in you. So look, yeah. But in saying that, like, I couldn't take my eyes off the screen when I was watching John Rama write a cut. So look, but
00:31:59
Speaker
It can go both ways, but you're right. It's an interesting conversation that maybe we dissect on another pod. The other note I had on this event, Cal, was that much less insulting attire from Jay Day this week. Maybe it's just maybe it's rained in a little bit. The baggy pants were still worn. They still look a bit odd.
00:32:25
Speaker
Yeah, they weren't, it wasn't as egregious, I'd say. Yeah, it wasn't as provocative. I think maybe the first event that they, they kitted them out was just some ambush marketing. Just like... I think it was too. I really do. Just like, look at me and maybe Jay Day saw the, saw the zeros on the...
00:32:46
Speaker
on the page and he was like, right boys, I'll do this for one event. I'll wear these smiley faces once and get the brand out there. And then you've got to make me something a little bit normal. No, that's facts. And just, I know we talked about it about on this event last year, just the three course, three
Critique of Sports Media Interviews
00:33:06
Speaker
courses, you know, the Saturday cart, it's like,
00:33:11
Speaker
Dunlap and JT kind of made this event like it was like, man, it was a pretty shit event to get around, isn't it? Really? It's probably one of my least favorite on tour, the American Express. The three courses thing is just an invitation to watch the last round, isn't it? Oh, absolutely. Because you just can't follow it. There's no context.
00:33:36
Speaker
He's just like, okay, I'll watch it on Sunday. And I just think that's, it's not something that's sustainable. You want people tuning in as much as possible. And they barely had cameras on one of those courses. So like, Oh yeah. Blokes was just posting numbers and you're like, I haven't seen this guy had a shot today. Like Scottie Scheffler on in the opening round, like off the top of my head, he might have like 67. I was like, Oh, it's a decent round. Like,
00:34:05
Speaker
didn't even realize he was playing. I hate it. Look man, we harp on about the multi-course events, and it's not gonna change, but you know. They do make so much money from the Amateurs playing in these though. They pay massive amounts of money to actually play with the pros. So there is an element to it that we don't know the ins and outs of either.
00:34:34
Speaker
I guess you need to, I feel like I need to just get my head around that not every event's going to be great and that there's different reasons for these events. This event provides opportunities for someone like Michael Kim, for example, to get into more elevated events. It's sort of for the real badges, these ones. Absolutely. Right, mate. Let's cut the golf chat and move on to
00:35:03
Speaker
every punter's favorite part of the podcast, our playoff holes. I'm hoping you have something to tee off on. I do. I'm just teeing off on particularly the black caps recently. Some of the media has just been the driest stuff I've ever seen. And just using every cliche under the book, taking each game at a time.
00:35:27
Speaker
It's good to be back in our own conditions. Pakistan are a good side. Just, just give me something a bit more interesting, please. And the questions being asked them aren't great either. Happy to acknowledge that. I don't know. I just think as a, hey, if I was in the same position, I might do the same thing, but as fans, it's just tough. Like they might as well not even have the interviews because you don't learn anything from it or you don't laugh. So you've got to have one or the other, I feel.
00:35:58
Speaker
Yeah. I, I, you always, we talked about this the other day and then I actually heard Lockie Ferguson on the radio today and he was, he was really good. He was given, given a bit like, but you're right on the whole, it's pretty bad and it's pretty relevant through most sports like cricket and rugby union, especially in New Zealand are the absolute worst. It's like not even worth chatting into.
00:36:28
Speaker
to those in the news and look and I've actually for a story I'm writing in this the next edition of the mag I've had to kind of interview five or six pros around the Aussie tour and mate just some of the best bucket it's obviously quite early in my media career but some of the best content you can get just honestly happy to have a laugh with you and
Personal Golf Stories and Experiences
00:36:56
Speaker
the other
00:36:57
Speaker
And I feel like golfers tend to be a bit better, like individual athletes tend to, you know, they're not, they sort of constriction. They kind of market themselves a little bit. Well, you kind of have to, like surely, like, like they're not constricted by a manager. Well, they probably constrict by a manager, but not like a media manager and like, you know, not pissing off teammates. And I just, yeah.
00:37:22
Speaker
I couldn't agree more on in short on the front, but you are also, it's only, your answers are only as good as the questions you get asked at times as well. And I feel like some of those cricket broadcasters in New Zealand are fairly average with all your respect. Yeah, that's true. And you mentioned Lachie Ferguson, he's a great personality and the radio format allows you to be a bit more relaxed, I'd feel.
00:37:51
Speaker
But maybe they just pick out the wrong guys too when they do these interviews because not everyone's going to be a great interviewer. Everyone's different. So I don't know. Just something I've noticed watching when I tune into some stuff. I'm like, wow, this is just not adding anything. Absolutely. And I don't have a teeing off, but I've got a confession AC.
00:38:13
Speaker
I've been kind of waiting for TZ to come back on and feature and play our files. I thought I had them lined up for the last couple of weeks and tonight to maybe break this down a little bit more. But look, I was playing golf out of one of my favorite tracks, Amberley Beach, over summer. And I may have hooked one, well, straight bottom one left into the hazard of the tee.
00:38:43
Speaker
had to take a drop, I've got my 3-wood out, I'm having a tough day on the tools and I've hit 3-wood and it's just this leaky right piece of shit shot and I've thrown the head back and I've kind of thrown my 3-wood down towards my golf bag and it's just, it's just laid it awkwardly and snapped clean in half and
00:39:09
Speaker
Look, I'm not proud of my actions. I've never, I've never snapped a golf club out of anger before. And I wasn't, I wasn't really that angry either. I was just kind of like, oh, how are you hitting it so shit? And then, and now, now I'm a three wood in the can, but yeah, I just thought I needed to get that off my chest. TZ will hopefully come on in coming weeks and give you a better rundown of it, but yeah. So is that what he was going to tee off about? No, no, he's got a good teeing off, but
00:39:38
Speaker
I think I want him to talk about Dave's course record at Amberley Beach and then maybe some stuff that unfolded during that round. That's tough. Forking out the new 3-wood is going to be a real lesson, I feel. I've never snapped one, but I don't know how I haven't. Way better now, but I was a notorious hothead when I was sort of 14, 15 in particular.
00:40:06
Speaker
Golf, me and golf just maybe weren't mature enough at that time because holy shit, I had some blow ups. Yeah, it's all par for the course, but it's just like, it was almost, it was almost out of frustration and anger. Cause I was playing so bad. Like it was, you can't really get angry when you're just depositing it to all angles of a golf course, but you know, yeah, yeah, not my finest moment, but I also, I don't have three word a lot anymore. So.
00:40:35
Speaker
I'm thinking maybe get something a bit different in the bag now that I have to replace it. I don't know about you, but I find I get a lot grumpy when I'm playing well and you just waste around by doing something really stupid. If I just don't have it that day, I'm pretty fine. It's when you're playing so good and you just do something just inexplicable. That's when I'll start really losing my rag.
00:41:03
Speaker
Yeah, this was right in the midst of the chipping yips too, so I'm surprised that a gap wedge or something didn't find the trunk of one of those pines. But hey, we live and we learn and we don't condone that, that's what a behavior, but it is pretty funny. So like,
Closing Remarks and Upcoming Content
00:41:23
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if you got any footage, let us know. Yeah, there's just nothing
00:41:28
Speaker
Nothing can get you so emotionally wound up in golf really. Tennis is up there too. It just brings this bad side of you out sometimes where you just, the kettle just boils. Yeah, getting your front pad blown off in the first over of a cricket game also is right up there. Yeah, we play some tough sports in that regard. No, mate. We've made any kind of parting words for the listeners, the punters. Speaking of punts,
00:41:59
Speaker
Like I don't think I was punting Nick Dunlap. Do you know what Rory was paying? It must have been like $4, right? Yeah. Yeah, that was a bit of my fault. I normally remind cow and
00:42:16
Speaker
I had an interview as well and it just, the Dubai event just teed off a little bit earlier than I thought and it just, yeah, I realised about an hour after it teed off and Cal was asleep and I was like, ah, that's not gonna work. So yeah, so we promise we'll be back this week. Look, the accountant's probably stoked that we,
00:42:40
Speaker
We haven't punted these first few weeks. They'll be starting, you know, looking to mortgage off the tip studio or, or something like that with what we've done with the money they've given us to pump with. But guys, we appreciate you tuning in a little bit of dribble this week. And hopefully there's going to be a lot more on weeks to come. We've got.
00:43:00
Speaker
some more core stuff coming. The boys Monty's jumping back on, we're going to talk Ireland and hopefully a few interviews in the pipeline. I spoke to Michael Hendry a few weeks ago and hopefully going to get that out, you know, late Feb. So I appreciate you guys tuning in and being so loyal and AC made all the best over that side of the world and I'll catch you next week. Cheers my brother. Why didn't you just go home? That's your home!