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Daily Ipswich: Epsiode 110 - Tactics Tuesday (Villa 1 - Ipswich 1)
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Rob and Richard look back on Saturday's draw at Villa and discuss how Town's superb rearguard action helped get a positive result and how that might affect things moving forward.
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Host: Richard Popple
Guest: Rob Binns
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Introduction and Welcome
00:00:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Daily Ipswich, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. It is Tactics Tuesday. My name is Richard Popple and today I'm joined by Rob Binns. Hello Rob.
00:00:22
Rob Binns
Hello mate, nice to be back. I had to feel like I've had a couple of days off now.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, me too actually. I think you and I were on, when were but do we? Did we do the preview?
00:00:33
Rob Binns
No, I've done the crossover last I think that my last one.
00:00:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
You did the crossover. I did the preview with Tom. That's right. So, so both of us had a couple of days off because Tom, good old Tom did a, uh, a little solo one for us yesterday. Thank you very much, Tom. Very much enjoyed it. i hope everybody else did too.
00:00:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Um, and it's nice that we can all reflect on a positive result. And actually i think with my heart, I predicted the one, one, ah my head did say a defeat.
00:00:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
So
Ipswich vs Aston Villa: Match Reflection
00:01:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm delighted that the old heart won out this time.
00:01:00
Rob Binns
Mm-hmm.
00:01:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Yeah, we went to Villa Park. We got a point from Aston Villa for the second time this season. Can we play you every week as the song goes? Maybe we might stay up if we did. um But it was very impressive rear guard action, particularly in the second half.
00:01:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
And yeah, many, many plus points in the game, which obviously Tom touched on yesterday. Some great individual performances. I think collectively we look fantastic as well. And of course, Alex Palmer.
00:01:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Yeah. looks a terrific signing at the moment and has started really, really well in this first couple of games. So we're going to go through the game today, Rob and i in a little bit more detail, see how town started tactically, um obviously had to change a little halfway through with the sending off and then how they managed to see the game out. So Rob, I think both Tom and i said on Friday that we expected to go back to a, to a four, to, to to stick to a, ah a back four to, you know,
00:01:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
banish the back five to um earlier in the season. Perhaps it was beginning not to work, but we are not football managers. we ah We were completely wrong and we did go back to that back five.
00:02:12
Rob Binns
Yeah, I didn't know really know which way we were going to go with it. i was sort of I was hoping that we would stick with the four because the the five had gone fairly dry. Obviously, the the whole lot the whole point of it was meant to be pragmatic and strong defensively.
00:02:27
Rob Binns
And then we let 10 goals in in two games. So at that point, it sort failed its primary objective at that point. So you might as well mix up a bit. And... I don't I was expecting to see it, but the same time, this is the sort of game where, particularly after the red card, where it was going to be stay in the game sort of scenario, rather than a go and nick something.
00:02:51
Rob Binns
It was always going to be like Villa, as we were saying sort on the crossover, Villa were the team expected to set the pace of the game. they're the ones under um under all the pressure to go and get a result. Whereas it's almost one that's one of them games, no one expects anything from us, which once again, we pulled out one of these games with a result that we, as we've done so many times this season. But so I think it was a practical solution, especially given the personnel as well. Because naturally, if you, obviously we knew absolutely nothing as usual that Davis was injured.
00:03:21
Rob Binns
ah Nothing came out about that beforehand, but they'd have known preparing in the week Townsend, putting a very good shift, but he doesn't offer the same attacking threat as Davis does. So you're better off sitting in and being a bit more defensive with that. So if you're going to have...
Defensive Strategies: Personnel and Tactics
00:03:38
Rob Binns
It might as well was a fat five, really. like Before, sometimes with the five, we let Davis go up and down. But Johnson and Townsend, you have you there is it is two defensive fullbacks as the wingbacks. It was a...
00:03:52
Rob Binns
so it was a sort sit-in, like we said the other day, just sit-in, head balls away, frustrate Villa, don't let don't don't make it easy for them, that sort game. and so I think had we had 11 men on the pitch, I think we might have just about got over the line. say Palmer was he was not letting anything beat him. He just got a about ah hell of a hit from Rashford on that free kick and the bounce off the bar was perfect for Watkins. A bit unlucky there. A really resilient shift and like you say, ultimately, there's a reason why Kieran McKenna sat in that dugout and we're sat here trying to guess what's happening and we always get it wrong.
00:04:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, absolutely. i mean, ah yeah, you brought up obviously Leif Davis missing the game. we were also missing Sam Morsley as well. He was a fairly late scratch apparently as well during the week. Both of them we don't think are anything serious. I think the club has already said that they they expect them to be back pretty quickly, probably potentially in line for um the next game.
00:04:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
um But yeah, we we obviously were forced into into certain personnel coming into the team, Connor Townsend being one of them, of course. Calvin Phillips being the other. Tom actually mentioned yesterday that he thought that was Phillips' best game for Ripswich. How did you see it?
Key Player Performances: Phillips and Kiyosu
00:05:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
How did you see him and Kiyosu stay in the middle of the park?
00:05:09
Rob Binns
Yeah, so it's a partnership that's getting better the more the more they play together, really, I think. That's sort of the one that's had the least game time of the regular trio, is I used to in Phillips.
00:05:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it has, yeah.
00:05:19
Rob Binns
But I don't know, we've spoke a lot about Morsi in recent weeks, haven't we? They're like, very difficult conversations to have, couldn't say, about your club captain and someone who's served incredibly well over the years.
00:05:30
Rob Binns
But he has, for a solid two months or so now, he has been off the pace, ultimately. And whether that's... So whether having a little break with an injury might actually benefit him, I don't know. whether it's I don't know whether it's fatigue or if the people found out found him out maybe after the first few months where he started really well. But it's sort of like it was that that divide between Morsi Phillips with who you put in there was getting smaller every week. So it's nice to see this partnership come out. And actually thought the the game at Portman Road was probably previously the contender for Phillips' best game in Ipswich against Villa. So...
00:06:04
Rob Binns
You know, it says it's weird that these things work sometimes. Sometimes you just consistently play a well against a similar opposition. so They were set about strikers and you score goals against, don't know, but maybe in Phillips' case, there's something about the way Villa set up that allowed him to play near his best because he did have a very good game again. So good for him to get 90 minutes under his belt because he doesn't do that very often with his injury record and he's always having to have his minutes managed because he's either just coming back from injury he's coming off because he's injured again and it's nice him to get 90 minutes together and so good for his confidence as well because again, some we spoke a lot about him this year, hasn't been up the level that we wanted him to be. so this this loan was a big opportunity for him to maybe not go as far as restart his career, but certainly to give him a much needed boost because his stock's very low compared to where it was two or three years ago. And overall, he's not taken that opportunity yet, but hopefully...
00:07:01
Rob Binns
This performance is, and I'm saying a game like this where everybody's had to dig in man disadvantage for 60 minutes. He was a standout performer in a very good performance all round. He was one of the names you pick out there. I'm hoping that gives him a boost of confidence. And then, so I think Morsi, like you said, think Morsi's back soon anyway, but certainly I'll be playing him.
00:07:22
Rob Binns
I'll be keeping Phillips in the team for the time being. And hopefully, like say, if you if the ends of the season's strong, then maybe we'll look back differently on the signings of how we have done so far.
00:07:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, fingers crossed. And I mean, I think we're going to need all three of them anyway, as as we've always said, we're we're going to need all three of them. And hopefully, as you say, with Morsi having a little break, maybe he comes back a little bit fresher and he he has one final push towards the end of the season. and OK, let's take a little bit of break here for one of our sponsors and we'll be back in part two.
00:08:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back on the daily Ipswich. So, yeah, there's there was a few people that I did want to talk about in terms of and performances in the game. I think, obviously, the tactics didn't particularly change change too much. Obviously, the the situation became more difficult when Tuanzebi got sent off. Again, you know, referring back to what Tom was saying, it was a pretty straightforward decision for the referee. Would you have any grumbles about the two yellow cards?
00:08:56
Rob Binns
I would about the first one, to be honest. The second one, yeah.
00:08:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Would you? Yeah.
00:09:00
Rob Binns
yeah the the second The second one, ah put it in the same category as some of the other ones this year. that Obviously, ah we sped it we spoke about them a lot on the podcast, some about shooting themselves in the foot with certain things, particularly some of the second yellow car challenges that have gone in this year.
00:09:16
Rob Binns
Like I said, the clerk at Brentford comes to mind, just pulling somebody down when he's on a book. and and Very similar to this one, really. He's just... he's almost so he's almost jumped on the back of him and pulled him to the floor when he's on a yellow card. He was never getting away with it.
00:09:30
Rob Binns
The only hope was because the first one was harsh, maybe the referee, no, maybe there whomever he's got on his head that was it a mistake to give the first yellow card so he might have let away a blatant second one. I was able to place that one. The first one for me, I agree with what McKenna said after game, to be honest. with like the ref He couldn't get his cards out quick enough, the ref. I can't think of a,
00:09:52
Rob Binns
opportunity before that i think it might have been his first of the game i'm not 100 on that certainly his first sort of decent decent stoppage of the game with for twanzay but he hadn't really might have done a couple of little trips something he'd never done is his first proper offense of the game and like i'm saying in mckenna's words the ref had the card out of his pocket before the ball would film before the ball would stop moving ah for me that was a harsh book and and so to follow up, I can't, I can't defend the challenge that goes in 10 minutes later when he's on a yellow card because that is, that is a clear yellow card and to regardless if it's a second one or not, but yeah, I think you were unlucky to be on the book and i would say definitely, but I can't say, I can't say that's affected the game afterwards, I've got say, players get booked all the time, you've then got to have the common sense to not give the referee a decision to make when you're on a yellow card, however harsh your first one was, so
00:10:48
Rob Binns
A bit of both, really.
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:10:49
Rob Binns
I'm not going to say referee's fault.
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, I mean,
00:10:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
no. I think also, you know, that it was a dangerous situation. It was a, you know, he obviously didn't need to make the challenge. But in that situation where a team's breaking away with the pace and power that Villa have got, you understand why he made the challenge. But at the same time, you're absolutely right. If you're on a booking, you can't do it because you you give the referee very little option at that point. but to
Controversial Calls: Tuanzebe's Red Card
00:11:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
But send you off, even if the first one was marginal, as you say.
00:11:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is our third red card of the season. I think they've all been for double bookings. Was Phillips for a double booking against Leicester? It was, wasn't it?
00:11:23
Rob Binns
Yeah. yeah There's another one that's not a silly one where he didn't get a foul.
00:11:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and obviously, Clark, it was.
00:11:28
Rob Binns
wait but We he didn't get a foul. So then he got annoyed at the foul that admitted say it was a foul that wasn't given. But that was one where i just react he got annoyed that we didn't get a foul. So got up and steamrolled through somebody and got himself a second yeller.
00:11:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. And the Clark one, as you mentioned, wasn't great either. So that's three times that we've we've left ourselves a lot to do And obviously we haven't won any of those games. And, you know, the Phillips one against Leicester, you could say did cost us the two points there.
00:11:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Whether you could say this one about Tuanzebe costing us two points, I don't really know, because ultimately it was nil-nil at the time.
00:12:01
Rob Binns
Thank you.
00:12:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Obviously Villa went very, very heavy favourites, even if they weren't before the red card. But we did get to half-time nil-nil. He obviously brought Wolfenden on at that point to keep the back five, which we had for the whole game.
00:12:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
um And as we'll get to in the second half, you know, the defending really was pretty heroic and, ah yeah, bodies on the line and stuff. and there were some great individual performances. But just a quick word around N.C. So we don't know yet the extent of that, but it was obviously a blow that he had to come off sort of midway through that first half.
00:12:36
Rob Binns
Yeah, it's a real shame. on I think he's looked really, really sharp and every time he's got on the pitch so far that he was sort he's just sort of waiting for it to burst into life with him. It feels like one of them that once he gets that, once he gets the first goal, he'll just spark row ah spark some life into him he'll put, he can fully capable, put a little run together where he can say, we do need, we need some goals from other areas. We can't, we can't rely on De Lapp every week. We can rely on him this week because he got us enough for a point, but And Cito looks like the one most likely of those sort of ah those players queuing up to play behind the lap. who He looks the one most likely who could chip in with a fair amount of goals for now at the end of the year. So hopefully it's hopefully it's nothing serious to start with. And then hopefully he can regain that sharpness when he comes back. Because so we know he've he's had long-term injuries before.
00:13:29
Rob Binns
Normally that leads to sort of follow-up injuries, whether they're related or not. And so quite often can... almost say, can affect his affect your sharpness on the pitch. I'm hoping and he comes back and he continues where he left off, hopefully, i' say as soon as possible, but certainly a loss of so so early in the game as well. Never they've never got a chance to try and have an impact, really, say, 15 minutes or whatever it was. And then and and Jack Clark as well, he came on for 25 minutes and then we started to resort.
00:14:00
Rob Binns
Then the red card saw him go off again. if I felt sorry for him after he had ah it's such a good game in the cup that he's probably questioned whether he'd start this game after that performance and he's ended up coming on and then getting hooked again because of ah because of a red card.
00:14:14
Rob Binns
So hopefully Nciso is back sooner rather than later.
00:14:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Uh, we, I think there was a message from the Paraguayan team doctor that, um, it might not be as bad as first fears, but he was having an um MRI and obviously he left the pitch in tears and stuff as well. So, you know, the player might, might know how that feels, obviously having, having had problems with his knees before. So yeah, but fingers crossed he does come back and it's not another, season ending injury because we've already had obviously two of those this season.
00:14:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Um, You're right about Jack Clark. a Quick word on him because I think um he actually looked quite lively for that 20 minutes that he was on the pitch, really. he He was playing quite well. He looked a bit more confident than he has done. Obviously, that Coventry game was good for him.
00:14:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
So hopefully that's a sign that he can he can be effective moving forward. And it wasn't a reflection on his on his performance at all that he had to come off. It was obviously just a tactical thing. um And then in the second half, we we took the lead.
00:15:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
We took the lead. And it was somebody who's been maybe, maybe we've had a a bit of a controversial take on recently who we've been a little bit critical of, who actually had his best game for a while. That might not be, that could be a coincidence that he's just had a week off and had a bit of a rest. And that's Amari Hutchinson, who did brilliantly to make the goal.
00:15:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
De Lapp took it absolutely superb. I think that's, ah aside from the goal he scored against Villa, I think that's the best finish of the lot from him this season. It was really, really nice to do Because I think there were three Villa defenders in the box and he made it his and tucked it away really, really nicely.
00:15:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
But What did you think to to Amari's performance in the game?
00:15:47
Rob Binns
Yeah, thought I thought he was a four is miles better than he has been in the last few weeks. or So of back to the sort of getting towards the levels that we know he can play at.
00:15:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yep.
00:15:56
Rob Binns
We should say there's a reason why we... So you could say we picked on him maybe over the last few weeks, but the reason is because there's there's not too many players that we have really high expectation of.
00:16:08
Rob Binns
We sort of, a lot of people we accept that how how quick the rise has been and they're adapting to Premier League football, but he's one of the squad that you've always felt he's good enough to be ah top performer in the side at at this level.
00:16:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:16:21
Rob Binns
And he hasn't hit those levels a lot of the time, but he was very good this game. And and so you talk about Clark that feels harsh on him really, because he was, he did look lively in that, but ultimately we had to get a defender on, especially say somewhere like Villa Park.
00:16:37
Rob Binns
No, and you've got a full half, I just, then they're just going to keep you camped in your own half for most of it And you look at the front three we've got there in terms of the, it's Clark, Hutchinson and Dallap. There's no room for centre mentality and think, oh, Clark's come clark's come off the bench already. We don't want to hook him again. Hutchinson and Dallap have had more quality than Clark. So we'll have certainly shown it this season. They're the two going to leave on and they've shown you exactly why, haven't they? Well, the combination, that's a really good work from Hutchinson.
00:17:07
Rob Binns
Good ball in the box and say Dallap, we know he's a good finisher, but that was really impressive. The defender's flying across. He's almost like they just had to sort of, flick it back past the goalkeeper almost as he's running towards it. It's a really good finish. And the sort of thing you have to, in a game like that, like I say, 10 men back against the wall for the majority of it, you're trying to hit on the break.
00:17:29
Rob Binns
That's exactly the sort of half chance you have to put away if you're going to get something from games like that. And fortunately for us, we have a very good striker up front who does take those chances when he gets them more often than not.
00:17:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely. And it was a lovely deft touch, as you say. i mean, you know, he he's showing so many facets of his game. He's showing that he is an all-round quality striker because he's got, you know, raw pace and power. And he's obviously got ah an electric shot on him at times as well. But that was all about finesse and, you know, placement into the bottom corner against obviously a very, very good goalkeeper.
00:17:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah, it was nicely done. are Our um colleague James messaged us all when that goal went in saying, ready for the onslaught. And it looked as if the ah the the side were readying themselves for that as well.
00:18:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
After you have another quick break, we will talk about said onslaught.
00:18:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we are back for the final part of today's tactics Tuesday. So yeah, we took the lead. When was it? minute, something like that.
Goalkeeping Brilliance: Alex Palmer's Highlight
00:18:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
And basically from that point onwards, it was just a defensive rear guard trying to hold on as long as we possibly could.
00:18:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah We managed to do that, I think for about 12, 13 minutes, something like that. But it did feel, not that it felt inevitable necessarily, but Villa really were on the charge. And obviously, you know, Jacob Ramsey in particular was causing quite a few problems. Um,
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
We were defending well, for sure, but obviously the the extra man was sort of taking its toll. And we had one player in particular in in our new goalkeeper, Alex Palmer, who put in an absolutely fantastic performance and looked like for a while that we could potentially keep Villa out.
00:19:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
As you mentioned earlier, we got a little bit unlucky actually with the equaliser. Great strike from Rashford, but, you know, it did fall to Watkins and he obviously did what he did. At that point, were you... Fearing the worst, I mean, I know I probably was just because we've obviously conceded late goals and the numerical advantage. just I just thought that was going to be a very difficult 20 minutes for us. But yeah, how did you see it?
00:19:52
Rob Binns
Yeah, I always thought if we if we let the equaliser in, we'd go on to lose, unless it was literally like the equaliser itself came in stoppage time. He always felt that the buoyancy the Villa would have got from so knocking on the door, finally getting that first one to get level, you'd think they'd have kicked on a gear again and and that everyone would have had them as the heavy favourites to get ah get a third goal of the game if there was going to be one and like say, some very resilient shifts from everybody at the back. Palmer, most notably, some of the saves he made, you compare that to some of some of those saves compared to some of the goals we've let in in recent games, the the difference there that makes it a huge. You've got to start from the back and get results like this. And if we defend as well as we did there and then stuck and stick an extra man on the pitch to maybe give us a bit more of threat, well we can pick up a lot more results this year. But...
00:20:50
Rob Binns
Certainly a a performance that was needed. with it for con We spoke a lot about confidence, both at the back and just generally after the last few results. and Even though we didn't get the win over the line, I think it will be a huge boost to confidence. Like I said, the goal was unlucky in a way, but at the same time, you've got to credit Watkins for good strike good strikers getting themselves in the right place. As they say, create your curate your own luck, don't they? It's always the brilliant strikers the ball falls to for an open goal in situation like that. It's because they put themselves in the right place to be there. But it's a disappointing one to concede. When you do defend so well for such a long period of time, for it to be a rebound back off the crossbar that goes in, you see, if you're going to get beat, you want to get beat by the free kick itself. If Rashford blasts a free kick in and the top corner from miles out, you go, aren fair enough, what are we going to do? But it's a tap-in like that. It's a disappointing one, but...
00:21:44
Rob Binns
can't be shown i Can't be shaking a point away at Villa Park. Definitely say two points off Villa this season. to It's a really good going for a team who's in the top eight of the Champions League.
00:21:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, they caught they were knocking down the door, weren't they? Well, knocking at the door anyway. I think they had 25 shots in the game. you know Possession was something like 75% or something like that. So that they were really hammering it. And it it had a feel of that kind of like Brighton game earlier in the season where we again defended very strongly. Mouric that day actually had probably his best performance in a Nipswich shirt that day. Yeah.
00:22:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
So fingers crossed that Palmer can perhaps find a bit more consistency than, than Muric managed to in the first half of the season. But yeah, it was a superb performance from him. It's going to give him a lot of confidence, obviously ex West Brom.
00:22:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I'm sure he would have enjoyed the result. Same with Connor Townsend as well. I'd have thought, um, and all around the defense.
00:22:33
Rob Binns
Thank you.
00:22:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, you know, give flowers to, agree. It was very good. O'Shea was very, very good. Actually. Wolfendon obviously came on and did a job as well. And I think they, as you mentioned with Calvin Phillips and stuff and,
00:22:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
The bench had a lovely sort of championship feel about it. It felt very nostalgic. Jack Taylor coming off, Luongo, Wolfenden, all of the boys from the last couple of years were were coming off the bench for that for that rearguard action. And maybe that shows that the you know the culture and stuff at the club is still very much alive and up for the fight for the next next few weeks.
00:23:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
and We also had a bit of a rallying cry from our ah from our CEO and chairman. Master of Ceremonies, Mark Ashton, last week calling on the on the fans, on the podcasters, on the business, on everybody to come together as one final push towards the end of the season.
00:23:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
did you what what What did you find significant about that? Do you think it was just ah ah maybe a moment where the energy was dropping around the club? We'd obviously had four defeats on the spin. We talked about that. It felt like now or never, really, to start picking up points. you know You've already mentioned that a point at Villa Park is obviously...
00:23:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
a massive point and a surprising one at that, I s suppose. So what, what is that? What can that do? Can it, can it galvanize the club at this point? And, and where do you see us sort of going from here for the rest of the week?
00:23:55
Rob Binns
i think I think it was needed because, like everybody, us included, bigged up that Southampton game. yeah we We built it up all week, biggest game of the season. so i like all As much as we didn't admit it, we were all expected to win, weren't we were all sat here and we were making sure of saying, like if we win, like we've got to make sure we get the job.
00:24:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:16
Rob Binns
saying stuff like that But nobody was going into, even the most pessimistic fans going into that game expecting to win. And we picked it up all week thinking, right, number three points on the board. We'll look at the other results. This can kickstart the campaign.
00:24:27
Rob Binns
Let's try and get the boost or give us the big boost we need to go towards survival. And we lost. So when you big it up that much, thinking it's going to be the positive spin and it doesn't go that way, it hits twice hard or even more than that when we didn't get the result. that some The Coventry result was massive.
00:24:46
Rob Binns
and we If we followed that up, have been knocked out the cup. Even if we did, even with all the changes we made, would have been, and we need something to sort stop the rot and the cup done that very well. This performance has followed that up. We've had thems not over had the message from Ashton and McKenna in between and it seems to have been on and off the pitch, a real effort to sort of bring the move back up from the lowest point it's been in a long time after that Southampton game. Obviously we've had so many highs in the last two seasons that we haven't, we haven't hit a point that low for a number of years really, whether it's what the,
00:25:21
Rob Binns
a lot of people, including myself, sort thought, like, that's it. We're down now. You can't beat Southampton at home where you get the points from. But then, I'd say two really big performances to come back. and so It's just a nice touch, I think. that I'm hoping that since they say There seems to be some work on galvanising the play. I think it was you that said in one of the podcasts that after that Southampton game, it's where we go from here. Someone's got go and galvanise, whether it's McKenna or whoever, someone's got to go galvanise the squad and we have to hope they can pull it off.
00:25:52
Rob Binns
And it seems like they have done because they're two very good shifts since that game. And I think that little that little chat is hopefully going to try and galvanise the crowds back as we do. So we need it on and off the pitch if we're going to pull ourselves out this.
00:26:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, and I think it's just a reminder, isn't it? That, you know, but you're right. that's that it That probably is the lowest people have felt for ah couple of years or whatever. And we know how football is unbelievably fickle. You know, people's emotions swing so quickly within a 90-minute game. You know, you can be criticising your players or whatever and being like, you're playing rubbish and then yeah end up winning the game. it's It's kind of ridiculous when you think about it. So having a bit more of that even-keeled...
00:26:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
response to stuff and even pushing towards positivity, which is obviously what Ashton is asking everyone to do I think it was very
McKenna's Leadership Style
00:26:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
nicely timed. I have to say it was a good sort of like PR moment and they picked the moment well after the Coventry game just to kind of like, yeah, grab everyone and just say, listen, come with us again and and we'll try and we'll and we'll hopefully get there. And I think you have to give massive, yeah, massive compliments to McKenna again because he he always impresses everybody. But at the same time,
00:27:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
this is 100% his biggest challenge as a manager. He's losing far more games than he's winning. and And yet through all of it, he is still learning, still coming up with solutions to stuff.
00:27:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
And more than that, he's just carrying himself in such a ah brilliant, professional, even-handed way. He's never too emotional. He's never too kind of, you know, on the outside anyway. I'm sure he has his moments within the dressing room or whatever. But I just love the way that he exudes that kind of like calmness. And in that interview, he just had a way about him where he was almost inviting the interview and inviting the kind of opportunity to speak a bit more openly. I think he said, in fact, he was like, you know, it's nice to speak a bit more rounded about these kind of conversations rather than the standard stuff you get after a game or before a game. You know, who's injured? How did you see the result? How was the referee's performance? All of the stuff that he has to answer week in, week out.
00:27:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was quite nice for him to be able to kind of expand again and you know going back to those league one and championship campaigns where everyone was like you know the club were talking to us so much and the the collaboration was you know that journey forward was was really sort of apparent and i think the grind of the premier league and i think ashton calling it you know this got this global goldfish bowl they've had to adapt to that, you know, as much as we've all had to adapt to the change of results and stuff, they've had to adapt to a different working environment. and i thought, I thought it was a nice touch that they, that they did that at that time. And but yeah, it was, it was a good piece of timing from them. So hopefully, hopefully it pushes us all forward and we are with you, Ipswich town. We are with you here at, here at the daily Ipswich. um
00:28:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rob, anything else from you about how you saw the game, how you expect us to move forward? do you think we'll stick to, The five, again, do you think that's something that we need to continue with to keep this solidity?
00:28:54
Rob Binns
I don't know anymore to be honest because we've had we've had results with the four we've had results with the five we've had bad results with both as well that it's just going to be game by game at this point I think with Tottenham this weekend your head tells you five because that's what we played at their place and we got a result but obviously it's different it's different game away from home than it is at home where there's more pressure on you like I said about Villa to be the one setting the pace of the game and no I mean, it can work at times like it did against Chelsea, you don't want to be as a home team. You don't want to be sitting in and sort of trying to rely on the counter-attack and inviting the pressure on that you can do away from home.
00:29:36
Rob Binns
Especially Spurs. Spurs are a good side, but they're well off it this year. I mean, that that win from against United boosts them up a bit, but it's not like it is the same like when Chelsea came when they were sitting third in the league or whatever. It is effectively...
00:29:51
Rob Binns
He's a bottom half team, Colin. They are there for a reason.
Upcoming Spurs Match: Tactical Considerations
00:29:55
Rob Binns
And there is a real opportunity there, as there would have been we went to when we went to their place and we got the job done. Then it's a real opportunity for three points. It feels silly to say when you look at the upcoming games of Tottenham and Man United, but they are two very winnable games.
00:30:11
Rob Binns
And that's the way to look at it now. You almost want to be front-footed about it, but it's not going to say counter that. We play it first time we trialed a five was away at Spurs and it done the job.
00:30:24
Rob Binns
So um I'll just try, I'll stop trying to guess and just trust McKenna. I'll get it wrong if I guess anyway, won't I? So just trust him to get it right.
00:30:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, I would caveat all of that about Spurs, which you're absolutely right. They are a bottom half team this year. They've had an appalling season, but they do seem to be fractionally turning the corner.
00:30:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
They have got more players coming back. um You know, it Man United were very poor on Sunday.
00:30:47
Rob Binns
Well, it is.
00:30:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
I saw that game, but they've got some players coming back, Spurs, and they have won their last two in the league. So I don't, you know, obviously, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:30:55
Rob Binns
Oli's made a difference as well. That's one of the big ones coming back.
00:30:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely.
00:30:59
Rob Binns
because i don't The other lad who came in, that Kinski who came in, had a few decent moments. He had a few dodgy moments. I don't think he makes as many big saves that Vicario did on Sunday. So him being back will make a big difference for him, definitely.
00:31:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:31:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, and a few attacking players coming back as well. So we'll see. I don't think they have a game midweek. i think they've I think they've got a week off with the Europa League. I think they've already played the first round of that, haven't they?
00:31:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we will...
00:31:26
Rob Binns
ah Yeah, they qualified, didn't i they? They don't have to play this round.
00:31:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly. So that's a bit of a shame. But... C'est la vie. We'll see how we go. And we will we will take care of all that later in the week. We'll have the Spurs crossover, obviously, and we will have our own preview on Friday as well.
00:31:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
But that will do for Tuesday's edition. We'll be back tomorrow for Wednesday. Thank you very much, Rob, for your thoughts. Thanks, everyone, for listening. And we will see you tomorrow.