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Playoffs 2025 edition 2
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Pete and Chuck discuss the big surprises from the NFL and College Playoffs, make new predictions for the championship games and try to help Jerry decide on a new coach for the Cowboys (not that he listens to the show).
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Introduction and Launch of 'Toats and Throws'
00:00:00
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00:00:27
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Pete, what's up, my friend? What's up, buddy? It's been a couple weeks. Well, you know, a couple of weeks, some stuff's happened. We kind of knew. We probably end up doing it every couple of weeks. ah If you're listening, for those of you guys listening, welcome to Toats and Throws.
Predicting Playoff Outcomes: Successes and Failures
00:00:45
Speaker
You got my buddy Pete Hinesy with me and um Chuck Carr. And we're going to talk a little bit about ah playoffs and how terrible we would have been as handicappers for this last set of playoffs, man.
00:01:01
Speaker
Yeah, man, i we blew we definitely blew a couple of big ones with the with the Lions and the Chargers games or the two that really stuck out, at least for so the ones that we both missed. so then look yeah sort this And I think both of us agree like I would almost bet my life savings on either one of those games. Oh, yeah, straight up without the without betting the money line or or just betting the straight money line, not the spread. Absolutely.
00:01:27
Speaker
I might have bet the spread. It's the matters. I mean, yeah up legs out daniel Daniel's played about a perfect ball game, man. He's impressive from a rookie. I was going to tell you after our last episode, I got to get about it. And I think I am going to back Dan as the coach of the year.
00:01:49
Speaker
Okay. Dan Quinn. not du he He's playing like a man who knows that he's got nothing to lose. Like he is coaching like a dude. It's like we weren't supposed to do anything anyway. Go play young man. Have a ball. Let's go.
00:02:08
Speaker
Going forward on every every fourth down that you're like, oh should we go for it? There's no really thought to it It's you know, there's no really dumb decisions, but it's the ones were like, well they could go for here Well, they're gonna go for that one. Like if there's any kind of opportunity the same thing with the Lions did the same thing um Anytime there's an opportunity where they could possibly go for it. Them suckers are going for it They have, and Dan Campbell's been that way, but Dan Quinn was it i wasn't. that You talk about a guy that's coaching with house money. But anyway, well, let's we'll come back to that. But ah I just felt the need to acknowledge me and I missed out bad in in the playoffs and the NFL playoffs we have apps for the most part.
00:02:57
Speaker
Yeah, we we kind of saw it. I still I'm disappointed. Penn State didn't pull it out. Yeah, we'll talk about this. OK, let's let's do it. Let's start with Texas. Let's talk about Hitler versus Stalin versus Stalin.
00:03:12
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Texas vs. Ohio State Game Breakdown
00:03:15
Speaker
Stalin won. Yeah, I would say ah it was a close game. Both offenses, I thought, played pretty well at times. Both defenses had their moments. Obviously, the Longhorn's going down to tie it there at the end. And ah you know a controversial play on second goal, meaning you can argue till the day is gone about you know that second down pitch play after they got stuffed on first down. But when they got yeah the big negative on second down and to make it third and eight,
00:03:48
Speaker
you know, that that makes you have to throw it. And it's, in time it's hard to throw in tight. It is how how often like thinking about it. I would love to see, because we all know why people like to throw that pitch where they like to run outside to get everybody. crammed up inside, everybody thinking we're going to go low, then it's always either a seven yard loss or a walk in touchdown. Right. It's always one or the other. Yeah, it's a it's a feast or famine play. I wonder what the percentages are like. I would love to see that based on that. How often it's a walk in and how often. It was interesting to me about that call at that point in the game.
00:04:34
Speaker
was physically, I felt like Texas kind of had them. I felt like Texas was finally at a point where they're like, hey, they they look like either Ohio States get a little tired or they found something where they can, you know, when they're getting something, golly, man, you just think.
00:04:57
Speaker
is Is that not a place where I don't, I don't care about feelings. Let's put arch manning in there. If we want to run and let's, let's do the other thing that everybody does in the red zone, especially if you have a mobile quarterback and let's roll right or left and put and throw flood. And if it's not at the flat, it's not there. Make that linebacker choose. You know what I mean? And go. Um,
00:05:22
Speaker
as I just felt like they were at a point where the line was getting the job done. And it was right there. It was, of course, the game ended as a 14 point two possession game. I mean, we all wanted it, but was it, you know, that's not how the game really was, right? I mean, that game was away from being tied with two minutes left.
00:05:46
Speaker
So, you know, as a close ball game, both of them were very deserving of being in that moment, you know, and as I watched the national championship and as I watched Ohio State really just play about as good a football as you could play.
00:06:01
Speaker
during the playoffs, you really did see, I mean, I know they kind of joked about us was watching the McAfee version of the broadcast on ESPN2. You know, in the second half, they're kind of joking about, you know, this is at the beginning of the year, we talked about being the best roster money could buy. They spent over 20 million on the roster. So I mean, that talent eventually showed up and got hot. And, you know, they rode that wave all the way to the Natty.
00:06:26
Speaker
We would have macho man said the green rise. Let me tell you, though, um I did think we we were pretty on with the Texas game. It was athlete for athlete and they were a lot. of Hey, man, how many first round draft picks played that game? A bunch. I'm going to say seven or eight.
00:06:51
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First round picks probably played in that game. For sure, probably eight or nine on the first and second round, both for sure. You
Notre Dame's Championship Journey
00:06:59
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know, yeah first round shakes out with quarterbacks and stuff like that, but things like that definitely. um So it ended up and again like we've already like we've already talked about. That game was closer. The great play, the strip sack, they got returned for a for a touchdown. So make it look yeah made it so
00:07:22
Speaker
So much worse, more one-sided than the game actually was. um yep No, it ain't Penn State. I mean, Penn State just didn't have the bullets in the end, I guess. I mean, when you play an entire football game in Division I college football, and you don't throw a single reception to a receiver, that tells you the defense is taking away what they want to take away, and they're making you do What maybe you don't want to do the entire game, which is just run the ball and just so the ball the tight ends, that's going to cap your explosive plays. And so it's going to make you go on lengthy, long drives to where you can't get a penalty and get behind the sticks. It's kind of what Ohio State was doing in Notre Dame early in the game, just making them run the middle over and over and over. And you could tell it just tired Riley Leonard out in that championship game. ah Poor guy had to run nine of 18 plays, it took which
00:08:19
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and hats off to Notre Dame. That's your shot, right? 18 long to keep the ball out of Ohio State and keep generating first downs, which can't do it. in The quarterback on half your place. You know what I mean? They can't be quarterback runs, have your plays. That's just one sustainable. But but that first drive to me and we kind of blew past Penn State here. but so Let's go back and finish it. We have a blue pass.
00:08:47
Speaker
I was surprised at how physical Notre Dame was with Penn State. not It was big dudes against little dudes. Right. Notre Dame, i don't they have an offensive line factory. like They get a guy hurt and they send in an 18-year-old freshman that looks like he's 30 years old and plays for the Chiefs already. like they They, uh, they're offensive line coats. I hope it's getting paid a lot of money because he scaps. Well, he, he, he gets the guys he wants and boy, does he develop them quickly. That guy is worth his weight in gold.
00:09:24
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And, and hats off, it was said, it can't be said enough hats off to coach Freeman to be the first African-American coach to get to lead a team to national championship game. um I'm hoping I know you have the same thing that it becomes so regular by the time our kids are sitting around watching a lot of ball.
00:09:50
Speaker
But you know what I mean? Yeah, that it's not even, you don't blink an eye at it for sure. You don't blink an eye at it, but somebody's got to be the first. And I think he is a solid dude. Just everything. When I hear him in interviews, the way he talks about his team, his philosophy, the way he talks about the game, I just think that Marcus Freeman is a solid dude, a solid representative, regardless of race, for coaches.
00:10:17
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and ah And so I was really happy that he's going to have that designation at the end of this. You know what I mean? We're all smoke cleared. He still has that and he's well deserving of it. Oh yeah. And he, uh, they had every right to doubt.
00:10:34
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Themselves after that northern Illinois game and so for him to kind of get that shit Turned back the right direction and get the guys locked back in that you know the new day and age in college football well You know you can you can lose two games and still have as long as you're in a power five power four conference now Sorry, and sorry, let me back it up as long as you're in a conference and Notre Dame you can lose two games now and still really get into the get into the dance in most years. If it is on four and Notre Dame. Yeah, this is a little unfair for Notre Dame right there. Oh, for sure. It was changed. They get all the T revenue they want. No, no, no. Yeah, they they don't want to change it.
00:11:20
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i would I wouldn't put change it if I were them. They're not going to change it to somebody in the NCAA goes, wait just a minute, guys. Yeah, wait a minute. um You lost one game and you're not in the conference. You're not in the playoff. That's what it would take. It would have taken something big like that for them to go. I guess we get to get into a conference. I think the money gets
Ohio State's Playoff Performance and Challenges
00:11:41
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a man. I think eventually some and I'm going to go and say it could be the SEC that goes, hey, wait a minute.
00:11:47
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We had to split all ours like everybody else. Well, these jokers doing pocket in a clean 20 million a game. Yeah, for sure. Somebody is going to eventually money. Money is the the root of all evil, right? So the love of money is all evil. So somebody is going to get a little jealous and somebody is going to go now, not doing it, not having it. You know, they need to share that, share that wealth with somebody.
00:12:17
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But props to, you know, going back to the title game, props to how State Will Howard played about as perfect as you could play. I didn't think he should have been the MVP. I thought Judd couldn't have been the MVP. But Howard was, I mean, like 14 or 15 in the first half.
00:12:33
Speaker
So I'm with two touchdowns. So and then he played well enough in the second half to where they could really let off the gas there for a little while. And then it got a little scary because of the fumble. they' Got a little sketchy. If Ibuka doesn't fumble at the 20, they go in and scored. It's 30. It would have been like 37 to 15 or 35, 15. It would have been kind of washed by then. But that fumble let them get back in it and make it an eight point game. So that kind of made it hairy. But props to them.
00:13:02
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And, you know, yeah, can you believe Ryan Day? Listen, do you know what Ryan Day's record is right now? Oh, it's like 60 something and 10 or something like that. After the national championships game, he is 70 and 10.
00:13:18
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I don't know how to say it. It's pretty good. 70 and 10. And they want, they, the fan base, or I say they, there are considerable number of fans that want him gone because of his record against Michigan. Yes.
00:13:34
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70 and 10. I mean, I get it as a, as a, as a fan of a team that has a better rival. I get it, but, uh,
00:13:54
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arkansas right now I will go personally to Sam Pittman's house in hot Springs and deliver the bad news. Like, So so what he's been there seven years now since he's three and four against Michigan, because he's lost the last four, but I think he won the first three before that. Has he been there? I don't think he's think he's six years. I think he's two and four.
00:14:18
Speaker
Okay. So if you told me, all right, so I'm gonna go to Arkansas. Who's your biggest rival right now? LSU. Is that fair to say? Yes. All right. Texas. Okay. So let's just pick LSU out. So you're telling me at Arkansas, if a guy in six years won 70 games, but he lost to Arkansas or lost to LSU.
00:14:41
Speaker
4 out of the 6 years, but still 170 games. how but How big of a check is Arkansas right now? Gotta stay in Arkansas. Let me tell you something, man. The Waltons, the Hunts, they're opening up pocketbooks baby. Heck yeah, there ain't no doubt about that yeah do that. Jerry Jones out here writing checks. What are you talking about? that We need to put that on the docket. Let's talk some Cowboys head football vacancy here in a little bit. We can get to that. thats we can We can do that. We can get to that. um No, I did think
00:15:22
Speaker
I give kudos to Ohio State because to me, nothing, and and I know you agree with this offensive, nothing's more frustrated at the beginning of the game. It's the national championship. You want your defense to go out there and get a stop and you want the ball, man. Like you almost, it's almost everything you want. You're telling the head coach, can we please have it for like, we want to get out there and set the tone and to have somebody drive at nine and a half minutes on you.
00:15:50
Speaker
With you waiting to call plays, man, you've got your script, your game plan, you're ready to rock, and the defense can't get off the field, and third, fourth down is short conversions, and all that, it can drag it off, it's down. All the excitement, you worry a little bit about all your excitement kind of draining out.
00:16:09
Speaker
Well, and let me tell you as a play caller, so the pressure that puts on you to go back and answer. So Ohio State obviously had a script going into the game and they, I believe if I'm not mistaken, they run the ball the first two plays and it's like third and nine or third and eight immediately after that long drive.
00:16:29
Speaker
so as So as a play caller, i've got um you have to answer. They just went on that long drive. You're about to send your defense back out there if you go immediately three and out and punch the football. So I've got to immediately go to, you know, you've got your third and short, third and medium, you know third and long plays that you game plan for a week. And you you only got a handful of each one that you that you feel extremely comfortable about. I'm not saying that I can't call 10 third and long plays during the game, but you got a handful that you've repped and you've put a lot of emphasis on. You've got to pull the best one out of the bag right then.
00:17:14
Speaker
but You're right. Yeah, that's going to be your go to play. What's my best shot? ah You know, as a player and chip might have, they obviously they they get the first down there throwing the football. You have to go to you can't skip down the the list and go, oh, we're going to call maybe the fourth best one because we're going to save these other three. No, like they had to score there. So the pressure on the play caller, you know, the quarterback, the receivers making that play.
00:17:43
Speaker
You know, it's just, it's huge. I know it's just one singular play, but that could have changed the entire outcome of the ball game. If the receiver drops the ball, protection messes up, you know, quarterback does a pick on third and long, or, you know, just take a sack, whatever, they got to punt it.
00:17:58
Speaker
You know, that game might be different. You know, Ryan Leonard might keep running the ball. He didn't run the ball again in the first half. I don't think they only had like three more possessions and they didn't get get a first down. He was gassed after that first one, but he might have got some extra life of his defense went out there and gotta stop immediately. Just like you said, if and we're playing the what if game, but why not? We could do that if. They don't convert that third and long.
00:18:28
Speaker
Noted and come back out and runs another eight minutes off the clock. An entire quarter has gone by. A significant part of the second quarter, you've run three offensive plays. Even if they even they don't score, even if they you know go 30 yards and eight plays and then just punt it back and back you up. And now it's 10 minutes to go in the second quarter, seven nothing, and you have no rhythm at all.
00:18:55
Speaker
yeah Right, so I give a lot of credit to Ohio State. They came out, cools the cucumber, didn't panic on third and long, converted it, and then ah I really like what hope I had for Notre Dame, weathered away that first try of Ohio State.
00:19:15
Speaker
their first off offensive drive. They made down the field, hit what they needed to hit, made a couple plays they needed to play or need to make, and then they were off. Yeah, I think for me, obviously, I was like, oh, man, we might have a shootout here. And then Notre Dame comes out, goes immediately goes three and out. And Ohio State goes in scores. And I remember ah sitting there watching it, and I was thinking,
00:19:43
Speaker
yeah If Notre Dame doesn't go get some first, at least get some first downs here, maybe a field goal. you know It might be curtain zone because Ohio State was rolling and it didn't look like Notre Dame had an answer at that point on defense. Now it doesn't mean it couldn't come. But you could just tell once it went 14-7, I was like, boy, if Notre Dame don't score here, this thing's gonna be a two score game at half and Ohio State's gonna get it back and that's what happened.
00:20:10
Speaker
So, right. Right. Oh, yeah, that was that was definitely as the second half came down in Ohio State got that that score you really kind of felt like, oh, oh, yeah. after I thought the game was over for sure. It was. Yeah, that's it.
00:20:26
Speaker
Yep. So we, as we know, came back and made a little bit of a game of it, but Ohio state prevails and they are the reigning for this season, the reigning national champions.
NFL Playoff Highlights and Analysis
00:20:38
Speaker
So there you go. Pete, that is one section of football done. No more college football until September.
00:20:47
Speaker
Yeah, only two more weeks of football. That's kind of sad to think about. It's very sad to think about. um But let's talk about that. So like we started off the show, I said the commanders had a chance. You felt like they had a chance. I really think.
00:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, I felt like the I felt like the Buccaneers were just too hot and it was a good game It was good. Yes, it's not the shootout that we all expected. No, it's not There's great surprises Mm-hmm to plays in that game where ended up costing the Bucks the game. The missed exchange between Baker and the receiver on that little fake either a jet sweep or fake jet sweep, fumbled the ball inside the 15, gave the Bucks a touchdown in the lead, and or maybe just a tie. And then going down,
00:21:44
Speaker
to They needed a field goal to tie or touchdown and take the lead there in the fourth quarter. And the center snapped the ball when he wasn't supposed to. yeah hawk can be operateized On third and one, and nobody was ready for it, ends up being fourth and three. Well, they could have went for it on fourth and inches if they wanted to. I don't know if I would have. I probably would have still tied the game. But if Obviously, Young Center watches the snap there and ah and a handled exchange between Baker and a receiver. Those two plays really, I mean, cost the Bucks the game. I mean, you race those two plays, the Bucks probably win, in my opinion. And then honestly, I think the Lions get the Bucks, because I don't think Baker's dynamic enough to do what Daniels did, I guess, because Daniels was so good against the Blitz in the next game. I think you're i think you're right. I think
00:22:34
Speaker
That ended up costing them, but I was impressed that both defenses played as well. Whether the defense has played well, the offense has played poorly. It's really hard to say the offense has played poorly, considering what the commanders went on to do and what both teams had done leading up to the game. So it's hard to say both offenses had a bad day. So we're going to give credit to the defenses.
00:23:03
Speaker
I haven't said that. How about the Rams in nine, nine sacks? ah Sam Donald, Karen Linus, Sam Donald in full effect. Sorry, and you do get to sign your check, sir. We will be JJ McCarthy. I am sorry, but good luck with your next team, right? Oh yeah, well I felt this one coming too. I just felt like the Rams were going to have a good plan. Stafford's pretty gosh darn good in the playoffs for the Rams. Heck, he almost pulled that thing out in Philly. That's another game we'll talk about, but.
00:23:41
Speaker
yeah I had a feeling about the Rams. Obviously they beat them earlier in the year and their offensive line was rough. I think if the Vikings don't go into the draft and draft predominantly the best offensive lineman available almost every pick, then I'm not sure what they're doing. I think defensively they have enough pieces. They obviously have enough skill guys on ah offense. They gotta draft some freaking hogs up there.
00:24:05
Speaker
they did Yeah, I mean, Rams kind of walked away with this one. It wasn't even close. I just I'll tell you, I hate it for a guy like Sam Darnold, who it was so good all year and then his last two games.
00:24:22
Speaker
right back to back duds man i mean duds and it's not all on him there's you know we all know bad play calls bad line play there's a lot of things that can happen oh however i think his i still think his inability to to see what's coming at him, you know what I mean? got Almost all those sacks, almost all night were on blitzes. Six of nine had to at least to be on blitzes with man coverage. You gotta know your man, Peter, man. You know what I mean? You gotta know it. You gotta know where it's at.
00:25:05
Speaker
And then you've got to you've got to understand the game before how many plays we missed. You know what I mean? How many plays were missed against the Lions. And that's not all on him, but guess what? The quarterback gets paid $50 million dollars a year to take that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I texted a couple of buddies during the game and I said, how how much money Has this guy lost in the last two weeks? I mean, exhaust go ahead. Probably over a hundred million because he is probably about to get like a so five or six year deal somewhere for a lot of money.
00:25:44
Speaker
I think he lost 20 million a year. I kid you not. I really do. I think he went for about five years. Yep. I think he went from a $40 million dollars quarterback to a $20 million dollars quarterback. Um, and now is that fair? No, if he's smart and I, they'd be smart. He bets on himself. He takes a short deal. It's takes his time to get to the right situation, but I think it's gotta be JJ McCarthy time in Minnesota next year. That's why you drive to the guy where he did.
00:26:14
Speaker
Or Aaron Rodgers goes full Brett Favre and goes to Minnesota for a year or two. Aaron Rodgers just is not i' going. Listen, he is not going to. a so Aaron Rodgers will be lucky to get paid me to get cut by the Jets. He was awful. He was bad this year. I do wonder what he'd look like two years removed from the ACO. But yeah, he does look done. He does look done. He doesn't look like he's interested.
00:26:41
Speaker
Is it just me? No, it's not. It's the season went on. He was done and forget all the b s stuff he did was say that at the beginning of the year, right? The show was kind of which was yeah, which was ridiculous. But he wasn't interested then. You know what I mean? And anything but looking good. And he just did not look interested as the year went on, man.
00:27:05
Speaker
um They're not, you know, Tom Brady. He does not have the Tom Brady regimen or competitiveness to keep doing and at high level the way that man did. um So, yeah, the Rams Rams over the Vikings and.
00:27:29
Speaker
Gosh, Pete, I just didn't see the commanders Lions result coming at all. yeah there Yeah, obviously a lot of people know I've. I've grown a soft spot for Detroit since the Cowboys are so bad. I gotta root for somebody. oh And they just, I mean, you can't turn the ball over five times and get no turnovers and win again. I mean, it's just.
00:27:56
Speaker
your money that is this yeah It is impossible in the NFL to win with that turnover margin period. Like you said, you know, one of them was a defensive pick six. And three of them.
00:28:13
Speaker
were inside the 25 yard line. They were on the plus 25 or in. so let's just Let's just say the score touchdowns on two of those drives and they don't throw the pick six. That's a 21 point swing on three plays.
00:28:30
Speaker
They only punted one time. The first drive of the game is the only drive they punted. I mean, their offense just moved the ball the entire game, just turned the ball over. that's I mean, that's the story of the whole game. The defense the defense couldn't get pressure up front. They had so many injuries. of eight Missing Aiden Hutchinson's a huge deal.
00:28:46
Speaker
I know a lot of people a lot of people a lot of people don't realize how good he was early this year. He was like record setting pace good. So losing him made them blitz even more than they like to. And Jaden Daniels was unbelievable against the blitz. I'm talking like 15 of 17 against the blitz, which is crazy for a rookie.
00:29:07
Speaker
for a rookie and and I didn't see that. Like I saw was athleticism. You know what I mean? We saw the arm and know I expected that stuff. But let's be honest.
Dan Quinn's Coaching Success
00:29:18
Speaker
And now granted, Brian Kelly is the head coach there now. But we've seen a lot of quarterbacks come out of LSU pre now. I say that.
00:29:28
Speaker
Joe Burrow came out and I guess he's done OK for himself. Right. We've seen a lot of promising quarterbacks come out of the LSU area and not do well. Sure. Be athletic, have big arms and not do well. Of course, you see like quarterbacks anyway. um But.
00:29:47
Speaker
I saw the athleticism, I really thought he could have kind of a Justin Fields type, rookie year, you know what I mean? right That's what I expected. um No, he was so much better than that. um Anyway, yeah, i I'm just going to be honest, didn't see it coming.
00:30:06
Speaker
and the Dan Quinn has got to be having the most fun coaching of any head coach in the NFL because he's just coaching like like nothing matters. Like everything's going to go his way right now.
00:30:23
Speaker
And he's got the team to back that up most of the time is the crazy thing. He's got a pretty loaded team. It's going to be really interesting to see how they replace their coordinators. Obviously, him and Aaron Glenn have been together for a long time. They were together in New Orleans. They might have been together in Florida, I mean, in Miami as well.
00:30:42
Speaker
Obviously, they kind of have a background together. They both played for A&M. They but both played for the Cowboys. They've known each other a long time. So I'm sure a lot of their philosophies are very similar. So I think Aaron Nguyen's going to have a lot of success. It seems like he's going to the Jets. That was announced. That's official. yeah anxiety Yeah. So I think he's going to be a good culture fit for the Jets. I expect the Jets to be pretty good as long as they can figure out the quarterback situation, which has been the story for the Jets for 20 years now.
00:31:11
Speaker
um By the way, you remember where Aaron Clinton played his pro ball, don't you? And Dallas Cowboys, man. Well, he also played for a little bit there in New York. Yeah, he played for three or four teams. Yeah, I think he played for the Jets as well. But you know, it's going to be interesting to see what the Lions do, losing both coordinators.
NFL Team Strategies and Future Predictions
00:31:32
Speaker
Obviously, Ben Johnson is pretty good. And I think sneakily, the biggest loss is Ben Johnson is taking the offensive line coach from Detroit and making him the OC in Chicago.
00:31:45
Speaker
i didn' know that I think that's that's sneaky, probably the biggest deal, honestly. It's hard to find really good O-line coaches at all levels. If somebody can though, don't you feel like, I think in Motor City, Dan, I don't run the O-line anyway. He's got them tight ends rolling, man. He's got them big old tight ends. That sucker, Laporta made maybe the one of the best catches I've ever seen on that touchdown catch, that one-hander. Yeah, that was nice. Very nice. Now, the commanders, the other thing that, like, you being a Cowboys fan, it better get used to is they're young.
00:32:24
Speaker
They're young, man. They got some young talent. They added a lot of old, which I kind of made fun of it at first. They added a lot of old guys, too. They added Echler. They added Urts. They added Bobby White. And I was like, God, they're going to be pretty good in 2011. Like, golly.
00:32:42
Speaker
And obviously those old vets, man, there's a reason why they're old vets. They can play some football. And so, you know, you look at your team, you look at Jerry Jones and all the talent we lost, and we don't spend any money to replace them. So much rather bring in known commodities and veterans that know what they're doing and know how to play the game than just rely on guys that you're unsure of. So kudos to the commanders for doing that. Yeah. So then we both, so we end up with,
00:33:11
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The Eagles, oh we didn't even really talk about the Eagles Rams. The Eagles Packers, the Eagles Packers was kind of a, it's kind of a forgetful game. Love played home. It really was. Hurts didn't play good. it was just It was probably the worst game to watch in all of them. It was just kind of a slog fest. You're right. i That's unforgettable. It was that forgettable. I mean, we're sitting here going, Oh yeah, that's right. There was a,
00:33:37
Speaker
me And it was that forgettable, but I think we kind of saw that coming. Now, I feel like the Eagles played down quite a bit, you know, regardless of the victory in the in the market, they still they kind of played down. Rancid. They say Kwan, say Kwan, say Kwan, man, like it's good, man. You know, well, but how was he now? Is he twenty seven, twenty eight?
00:34:08
Speaker
Maybe I got to look it up. No, he's not that young. Sure. I mean, the Giants are unintelligent when it comes to personnel, but it can't be. They couldn't win. Go to somebody in the division that young. Right.
00:34:26
Speaker
Oh man. The race's twenty eight well he'll be twenty eight oh he'll be twenty eight he's about to be twenty eight um Rams had their chances. they ah i don't think I think they were scared to go full on, forget the run passing attack because of the snow until they had too late. And then they're like, oh, wait a minute. We probably should have been doing this way earlier.
00:34:49
Speaker
Kyron Williams kept fumbling, Kyron Williams kept fumbling the sinking ball. They weren't getting any traction in the run game. And in those last three drives or so, man, they just move the ball like nothing, you know, through the air, even in the snow. So by the way, I want to thank God for the amount of snow games we have had in the playoffs. Right. I love snow games, man. Absolutely love snow games. You're right. I mean, the Rams didn't
00:35:21
Speaker
They this didn't look, of course, it's the conditions because. Legal's didn't look that in sync. The Eagles are going to. and They can get by the commanders playing it like they did. I think they can anyway. We'll get to that in I guess a little bit. Playing the game that they played thus far, but they will not win a Super Bowl as they don't figure out how to get their receivers involved. You've got these very talented receivers and.
00:35:50
Speaker
At a time, yeah, and the Goddard got, do they have two catches? I'm not sure. AJ Brown's blocking. He might as well have been lined up at tight end. He's blocking for Saquon. You know what I mean? Donte Smith gets, they got to get their receivers involved, man. Yeah, I mean, a lot of that, obviously a snow game, but a lot of that falls a little bit on Hertz. And if he's going to be gimpy,
00:36:14
Speaker
The commanders might get after him a little bit if he's gimpy, and they might become really one-dimensional with Saquon. Now, the offensive line is good enough, and Saquon's good enough to still win that game. Their defense is very good, so their defense might keep them in the game. I think, you know, we'll talk about it later, but obviously, I think Philly's probably gonna win that thing, but it's gonna be a, I think that's gonna be a kind of a sloggy game, too. That's the kind of game that Philly honestly wants to play at this point.
00:36:42
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think Billy wants to get in a shootout with the commanders right now. No, I definitely don't want to, especially if hurts his knee is any kind of gimpy. They definitely don't want to get in a shootout with him. So, yeah, I think that's but. Yeah. um So let's talk about it. Let's say it's it's really interesting. Let's go ahead and talk about our industry championship game.
00:37:06
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um
00:37:10
Speaker
I think yeah obviously the Eagles have the edge on defense and the Eagles defenses is much better. ah Man, they just I don't know if they played. I don't know if they're plateauing. You know what I mean? I don't know if they've if it if it is just Hurts being limited a little bit, but they have not looked impressive outside of the line of Saquon. They have not looked impressive to me at all in several weeks offensively. Yeah, defensively they're really good. um Yeah, ill I'll get down to the point. I think if Hurts plays and you know isn't either severely limited or doesn't have to leave the game, I think Philly wins. I think it's going to be close.
00:38:01
Speaker
um ah yeah um I mean, we saw Jay Daniels light them up and that come back earlier in the year. So I think they have a little bit of a blueprint of what they want to do. um Now the money is the the line has moved from Eagles favored by six to favored by six and a half. So the money's flown in on the Eagles. I would take the commanders with the points, but I think the Eagles are gonna win the game.
00:38:25
Speaker
I think I'm with you. um I think I would definitely take the points. It's six and a half. You're talking about they know each other. You know what I mean? They obviously know the ins and outs, good to bads, you know, strengths and weaknesses. So that's a matter of what match ups. And again, right now, I don't have confidence that on the outside They've shown me nothing that they can take advantage of those matchups. Right. And then the commanders can get pressure on the quarterback. I mean, they affected Goff a little bit. Obviously, they affected Baker. So it's going to be an interesting game. I think it's going to be close. But i yeah it's hard to pick against the Eagles the way their defense has played for the majority of the season and with the way their off offensive line plays.
00:39:14
Speaker
at some At some point, you think the experience has to like take over, right? At some point, you think the fact that they've been here before has got to mean something. And if it's ever going to mean something, it's got to be in this game. iron um So I really take them to some experience. And I'm with you. I think it'll be a fun game. I think it'll be close. ah Definitely one score, which surprised me if it's a last minute field goal.
00:39:41
Speaker
Philadelphia better hope not, because Jake Elliott's been up and down, man, for several weeks now. So, but it could happen.
00:39:50
Speaker
All right, on the AFC side, the only one we got wrong in the wild card round was that Chargers game. They just... Dude, oh again, how many turnovers? Four turnovers. That's true. but you You can't. The NFL, you can't do that. There's no place to win a game. And Stroud looked horrible the first quarter. Oh, yeah. I texted my buddy that's a Texas fan. I was like,
00:40:18
Speaker
Now, I don't know the game started today, like it's horrible. And then all of a sudden, Herbert throws five picks or four. Yeah, that was that was a strange one. um I will say the Chargers are kind of the opposite of ah the Vikings. They have no weapons, have a decent o-line, but their weapons stink. I mean, a huge, terrible. I'm just trying to make Dobbins.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yeah, he's had four AKIRA's injuries. They're running backs are the least explosive with him and Gus Johnson. And the only receiver they have that's really good is McConkie. The rest of them are not. Quentin Johnson of TCU is horrible. he's He's bad. He's just inconsistent. They don't have a good tie.
00:41:07
Speaker
Yeah, like they need to draft nothing but skill guys and give him some help. They Ashton gente would be awesome in that offense. I, you know, Judkins would be great in that offense. You know, get one of them legit explosive backs.
00:41:25
Speaker
and put in there with Herbert and Harbaugh's offensive scheme and they'll be just fine going forward. they will I think you're right. I think that's the that's the big thing they missed. It is interesting to me just you know you talk about scheme and fit. Austin Eckler is the light.
00:41:41
Speaker
case in point for scheme and fit, right? Like think about all the years, catch your passes out of the backfield and in ah and then San Diego now, yeah I guess Los Angeles, but he was in San Diego most that the time. Um, anyway, it didn't him being, I think all of us, when he went to the commanders were like, um, no.
00:42:03
Speaker
But he's old and slow and he's got to check down, dude. He should have been with Alex Smith back when he started with the Chiefs. He would have had the same kind of career. But um but I just did not look at all like Justin Herbert.
00:42:21
Speaker
No, which the Texans pass rush is unbelievable. It is. They've got good defenders. I can't believe I honestly, when I look at the Texas team, the Texas team, like their defense is very talented. Yeah, they have pass rushers everywhere. So yeah, they can get after the quarterback.
00:42:41
Speaker
and good But good on them, they were playing like crap going into the game. Chargers are playing good and it just completely flip-flopped and we'll see the other way. So we both miss that one. We both miss that one by a mile. And then it was the Ravens. Ravens Steelers was never announced.
00:42:59
Speaker
dealers was exactly what we thought it would be. Yeah, um the bills bills. And we stopped the Broncos. Broncos was what we thought it would be. I actually know I'm going to back it up. I got to take a little crow on that one. I thought that was going to be a game.
00:43:16
Speaker
I thought Denver, I didn't know, I didn't think it was necessarily gonna be one possession, but I thought Denver would hang in there for a while. I thought they would have hung in there at least for a half or three quarters, but after that first drive, I was like, oh man, Denver might have something. They went down like five plays and scored. I was like, ooh, I mean, this might be the big upset of the wild card deal. No. No, Josh Allen said this.
00:43:40
Speaker
Josh Allen said, good job, young man. Now sit down and let me show you how it's done. yeah ah just and you know as he and It's easy to sit here and play armchair quarterback, but man, it was like... 24 to seven in the third quarter, and the Broncos are still turning handed off first down, turning handed off second down. Now we can pass it on third and eight. Like, golly, he's a rookie quarterback. Quit making him try and make every play on third and eight. Like, let's throw the ball a little bit on the early downs. It looks like the Cowboys with Kellen Moore and and Jason Garrett. Oh my god.
00:44:15
Speaker
Hey, man, you can kill him or may end up a head coach of your cowboys. we We'll get to that conversation in a few. That may be your next guy right there. I'll have to stop Pete from like jumping in the lake. No, it'll be such an easy to decision. If they make a dumb hire, it'll be so easy to just say, well, you know what? I'm going to root for the Lions for the next 10 years. like Until, yeah well, we won't go until what happens. I'll just come back. But something will happen eventually, and I can be a cowboy fan again.
00:44:46
Speaker
Oh, don't say it, you can't say it. I know exactly what you're getting at. It's one of our fine Arkansans right there, man. Come on. He got to hand A&M that trophy like 11 out of 12 times. You know he hated that. You know he hated that so much.
00:45:06
Speaker
Oh, and anyway, yeah, the bills just just took it to. And then you. to Yeah, poor Sean Payton didn't have much of an answer after that first drive. All right, let's do the bills, Ravens, because I'm going to I'm going to rant for a minute on the on the other games. So let's say those ratings. Game of the year to this point, after the bills, Vikings to end the season, which was the game of the year at that point.
00:45:36
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um
00:45:39
Speaker
Bills Ravens was what what it was matched up to be. It was a really cold game, snow flurries, beautiful game to watch as a As a NFL fan, as a football fan, that isn't necessarily a fan of those teams or a fan of the rivals of those teams. You got to really just sit there and enjoy the game. And those are really nice as a fan to just sit there and just enjoy the football being played. I thought the Ravens left a lot of meat on the bone. I agree. I agree. And honestly, I thought in the second half, the Bills left a lot of meat on the bone. I thought they got really
00:46:15
Speaker
secure with the way their defense was playing and they they let off the gas a lot. I see that a lot of these coaches and I'm i mean i'm i'm guilty of it too but because you feel like you have to because you don't want to make the dumb mistake. But gosh, sometimes the dumb mistake is letting your foot off the gas. i Yeah, the the play not to lose kind of. play here like yeah I felt like um I felt like the fact that that game came down to the two point conversion, the the jock two point conversion to go in overtime. The fact it was even in that spot to me tells you that the Ravens probably outplayed the Bills in that game.
00:47:01
Speaker
They were, they were definitely on the wrong side of the turnovers. They were definitely on the wrong side of the timely turnovers. Um, and so, and I should have had my stats. I apologize to be unprepared there Pete, but they're on the wrong side. They didn't look particularly sharp. You and I were texted during this game first and go on the one they run four plays. Not one of them is a handoff or even a zone read.
00:47:28
Speaker
Yeah. so da da Five Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson. I'm running some form of power read. Yes. Zone read like four times in a row. Exactly. and it And if I'm an NFL team where we get under center for a heavy percentage, just the amount of plays, I'm running a quarterback sneak four times in a row. or and It's so unbeatable now. The quarterback sneak is unbelievable how how effective it is. Or how about the dad gum flood route that you ran for the two point conversion? That play let Lamar get out there. If again, if the backer closes our quarterback, hit the flat, maybe he stays with the flat, let Lamar run it in. It's not. I mean, rocket science, man. I agree. um That to me is among the most questionable coaching decisions of the year to have Derek Henry. But I really felt like.
00:48:26
Speaker
Except for that little step and really it was only about a drive and a half in the third quarter. The Ravens running game was severely and it's like they were scared that. Buffalo was prepared for it when bubbles defense hasn't played that well anyway. Well, in Buffalo's defense predicated on stop in the past, they they run so much nickel defense. Yeah.
00:48:52
Speaker
It almost felt like the Ravens were worried they were going to run out of time. Or they were worried they were going to, it was going to limit the possession so much that they didn't want to do it. I couldn't, I know I would love to hear, like I would just, just if we could have John Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, I've done that twice now, one, two, three episodes. We can have him on this, but dude, I just want to know, like, was this part of your game playing coming in?
00:49:20
Speaker
that, hey, we're going to be a little more and then you decided to ignore the the field conditions. and others I mean,
00:49:31
Speaker
another thing I saw somebody was like, why is Todd Monken's name not being thrown out for head coaching jobs? And then I'm like, well, I've watched about eight Ravens games and there's about four of them where I'm like.
00:49:43
Speaker
God, those answers seem to be so simple with what the talent they have, and they make it so hard on themselves. Like that's why Todd Monckett's not getting head coaching. Outsmarting. Yeah, just trying to outsmart. Sometimes, dude, you just got to go beat that guy, and you only got to beat one of them. And when the guy that is running the toe in the rock is Derek Henry,
00:50:08
Speaker
He's going to win. but you got it You just can't let him get in the backfield. Derek Henry before he gets rolling, like it seems like he has a lot of negative plays because if you can get him before he starts running, he he's not his shoulders turned. yes He's not. He's not elusive enough to make you miss in the backfield, but once he hits the line of scrimmage, you're not tackling him before he gets three or four yards, right? Just yeah, I don't know man that to me.
00:50:39
Speaker
But it was, right that that to me was just, I'm like, I don't know how you win. If if you're not gonna win that possession or you're not gonna go at it in that way, I don't know. And I don't know their game plan, those guys, you know what I mean? But it blew my mind. I thought watching it ah just as a coach's perspective, I really thought Buffalo just,
00:51:06
Speaker
For a lack of a better analogy, they just put the anchor down in the whole second half. They scored 21 in the first half and in the second half they were like, when we get the ball, we're going to milk as much time as we can possibly milk. We're not going to try and throw it down the field. We're not going to let Josh really run the ball unless it's like third and one.
00:51:29
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and
00:51:32
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We're not gonna, you know, I don't know, we're not gonna, not necessarily not try to score, but we're not pressuring ourselves to go score. And they only ended up with two field goals in that second half, whole second half.
Chiefs' Playoff Strategy and AFC Championship Outlook
00:51:45
Speaker
So I thought that was a little, I thought they parked it a little early, I guess. I think so. I think so. I think it would be i'd agree with you there. Or it could be, I mean, combination of conditions and adjustments. right And they were like, you know what? We're not going to turn it over. We're going to let them make those mistakes. I mean, I understand it. I just thought it was a little early. Go get another touchdown. Then you could have really parked it. Right. you I gotcha. But they did what they had to do, got that right got out of there with the W's, get to hop on a plane, fly over to Kansas City, which we'll talk about that game.
00:52:21
Speaker
um If I hear any more whining, about two calls, one of which was fine. It's touchy. I get it. The rough in the pasture call was fine. It was facemask to facemask. That's technically helmet to helmet. No, a lot of quarterbacks don't get that call. Yes. My homes gets a lot of attention. Yes. He's probably the Tom Brady of this time. As far as that goes. so No, I didn't like it when the Patriots were getting those calls. So I understand all that. Okay. However,
00:53:00
Speaker
That's not why the Texans lost this game. No. That's not. They scored 12 points. In the playoffs, you will not beat Patrick Mahomes with 12 points. Period. ah they they are The first half, especially the first half, they they lost their chance. They moved the ball so well in between the 30s.
00:53:27
Speaker
and then they would take a sack and get them on a frugal range every time. By the way, eight sacks, not that that had any bearing on the end of the game, you know, that we sacked. P.J. Karloff just had three sacks. yep I mean, like, come on, man.
00:53:43
Speaker
that's fun That's what I mean. I'm still sick so sick of it. of it. You got to just revel in it. That's just what it's going to be until you all start losing again, which I mean, you know, that might be another decade.
00:53:58
Speaker
i picture decade It's about the end of that Pat Mahomes contract, I'm afraid. I think they find another quarterback by then. Yeah, but I think Pat and Andy, I don't think they'll do the Belichick Brady thing in part ways. I think they'll write off together. Oh, for sure. That's what I think is going to happen. I think Andy's kind of told Pat, hey, man, as long as you want to keep doing it, I'll keep doing it. You know, kind of thing, little elbow, elbow rub. um That's what I feel like. they can Yeah, I still feel like They have so much in the tank offensively that they're just not showing um The only one receiver to get any meaningful touch if any touch was Xavier worthy, which by the way I'm gonna go ahead and throw this out there if you if you're a Chiefs fan and you watch this the last six
00:54:53
Speaker
roughly six games last year, of going into the playoffs where she rises, touches you know way up. It was like the kind that made it a point. We're going to make sure we know what this kid does by the time we get to the playoffs. Then he was great in the playoffs. They've done the same thing with Xavier Worthy this year.
00:55:13
Speaker
The last six or so games his touches have been way higher than they were the previous Again, we got talking about this. We decided to record today and it's on me. I didn't I Really wanted to stat that his status touches in Weeks one through ten versus eleven through eighteen, you know what I mean to see because I feel like just watching he's gotten so many more touches and I think It's the same thing they did with their sheet rice last year. Okay. Now we're starting to forget how we can use this kid. how did They throw in that little screen where they orbit return screen, you know, with the two guys out there, it's good for seven, eight yards a pop. And you know, he's one must tackle for a house in it. Um, that's what Andy Reed does. Well, is Andy Reed takes the time to figure out
00:56:10
Speaker
what people can do. And it just, I'm telling you, DeAndre Hopkins didn't, I guess his old team didn't have a reception, I don't think. I don't think he had one reception. Well, it's like, uh, it's like the guy who, uh, our biggest mentor told us it's about the players, not the plays.
00:56:29
Speaker
what What position can you put the players in to be the most successful? When the players are their most successful, the team's going to be the most successful. Yeah. Andrew, he does obviously an elite job of doing that. Absolutely. And then as a Chiefs fan, it makes you really excited, man. And I know she rises going to have to pay the piper for some bad decisions when he comes back from injury. Eventually, that's going to catch him. It should. and not yeah I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying that shouldn't happen.
00:56:59
Speaker
But then you're going to have two very promising young receivers and a couple of crafty bets. Hollywood Browns going to be in the country. It's going to be around a little bit. The office is on Twitter going, hey. Get used to seeing 15 throwing my way, you know, so he's hinting that he plans on trying to stay around.
00:57:26
Speaker
um So that could, you know, we've heard people say that, well, this ah offense isn't the same offense it was. It's not. But that's could be changing sooner than later. It almost reminds me of. And don't get me wrong, I'm going to have to preface this a little bit, but it almost reminds me of the early paths, the paths where it was really the defense.
00:57:56
Speaker
that that was the catalyst to all of it, because the Chiefs played more, so much more of a complimentary game now than they did a few years back. ah that you know Brady at that point wasn't the Brady that we all think of. For those first three Super Bowls, Brady was not the catalyst to those teams. I'm not saying that, so that's that's kind of the the weird part, but Mahomes is the catalyst to the team.
00:58:21
Speaker
he yes but But I think the defense is the motor of the team. I really do. That defense gets after the quarterback. There's sound in the back end. Spagnola does a good job with this blitz packages.
00:58:36
Speaker
They never seem to give up just huge, multiple big plays in a game. Right. And so they just strangle you defensively and they know my homes, even on a bad day, is going to get you 20 points. Sure. If they can hold teams like Texas to 12, then they're not going to win. i No matter if my home's as a home's game or if he has off game. He's going to win because he's going to at least find a way to get to 20. This is the other thing I do like about this use team. um was it the case they were very finessy just three years ago you know what i mean yeah that's kind of i guess what i'm what i mean yeah they're very finessy i wanted to get in shootouts at least offensively they kind of they thrived in that shootout atmosphere kind of old greatest show on turf sort of mentality yeah you know we'll just get it we'll just outscore people
00:59:27
Speaker
Well, the middle Patriots see the middle kind of kind of the Colts see in the, with, uh, era, like we're just going to get the offense of of the chief seaman. You know what I mean? back in that and And the Rams before that, obviously, but, uh,
00:59:45
Speaker
This is a tough team, man. We're talking defense for next year. We're an off season like you guys are, right? and You're building toughness. That's a big thing. Not just bigger, stronger, faster mental toughness. And and um and I'm literally going, OK, who can I like for my corners? We're probably going to go do a cover two shell. And so I'm like, OK, we're going to spill. Corners got to tackle. Who can I put on? Man, McDuffie.
01:00:15
Speaker
Mcduffy is so good. You know, you hear the term willing tackler to come out of a corner. And I always think that means that guy will come up and make the play. It has to. Mcduffy looks like he wants to hit your knee. He wants to just like think he's not my chance. You know, I want to come up and just pop somebody. And it's not just willing. It's wanting, you know.
01:00:38
Speaker
um And so they all kind of had that. They had this gritty kind of, you know, you worry about most Christian Jones going to go diva and he has it a little bit, you know, he deserves a little, but then you got guys like a minute who and Carlottis and naughty, you know, and these guys on the T line, Nick Bolton, who's never gone to even drew tranquil, who's never gone to you on you. And it's like, they all.
01:01:06
Speaker
Justin Reid, you know what I mean, veteran, crafty veteran back there. And it's like they've all been together long enough. They know spags, they know their stuff. And they're like, hey, let's get a little mean right here. And I feel like when he calls blisses, they smile. They're like, heck yeah, let's go.
01:01:37
Speaker
But it's like I think they're so used to each other. They're so used to spags that man, I say that defense is hitting on all cylinders. That's anyway, that's what I think I i like. I like the Chiefs. Obviously, I really like the Chiefs at home. I think the biggest is going to like it up at one point. It opened as a one point.
01:02:02
Speaker
spread and has moved to a two-point spread and a lot of people will tell you, at least in college football, that home field advantage gives you a three-point bump. so So I guess they're saying on neutral field the bills would be favored by a point. um It's essentially a toss-up. Everything in my o It's so hard. I got to tell all the kids are asking me today at school, who's going to win? Because obviously there's a lot of cheese fans.
01:02:34
Speaker
ah You know, there's girls who are Swifties and stuff like that in sixth grade are all cheese fans here in Rockville. So I got to answer that. Are the cheese going to win? And obviously a few scattered Josh Allen fans and Bill's fans. But anyway,
01:02:50
Speaker
a I told him it depends on who wins the middle, the middle eight, so the last four, of the second, first four, the third, and whoever has the ball last. And when I mean last, I mean not with five seconds left. Whoever legitimately has a drive last is going to win. My mind just tells me you can't pick against Kansas City until somebody does it. I mean, just like the Bengals did it a few years back.
01:03:18
Speaker
but my My heart wants to see the Bills do it just because as a Ranger fan, as a Cowboy fan who's never seen them win one, as obviously an Aggie fan, as ah you know to a lesser extent a Bobcat fan, though they just got the FBS. It's fun to watch those cities win the first one.
01:03:43
Speaker
and And so now with the Lions being out, i' kind of the Bills are kind of the team I'm rooting for through this thing. I love watching Allen play. understand If I could pick a quarterback to come get in my high school offense out of the NFL, it'd probably be him to run a high school around.
01:04:00
Speaker
um So obviously I'm a Von Miller guy to be nice to see Von Miller kind of right off into the sunset with another one. okay So I will pick the bills. I don't feel good about it. I mean, um I wouldn't lay money down on this game if you're wanting to waste money, I guess, but I would pick. I would go with the bills in my heart brain wise, I'd go with the Chiefs, I guess, but I'm picking the bills for this for this sake.
01:04:33
Speaker
For the sake of this, um you guys can't see me. I'm decked out right now and she's had Derek Thomas Jersey. um ah t have Not a bandwagon. No, I've been a fan since Marty Steinheimer days. um So, pete I have exciting news.
01:04:59
Speaker
You're going buddy Jan and I as soon as we're done here are going to choose tickets to Go to this game and so it is gonna be Complete Jan has never been to a juice game never Yeah, the hurt this is gonna be her first one So it's going to be off the chain in Kansas City. It's going to be all hundred and forty, whatever it is, decibels galore. So it should be an absolute blast. But yeah, yeah like that kind of makes me want to root for you. You can be at least you can climb on, man. You can climb on. You know, the last Tim brought this up, the last AFC Championship. No backup.
01:05:56
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Gosh, was that the AFC Championship game or not? Anyway, he and I went and it was Tim's first Chiefs game and it was Chiefs Titans. Oh, yeah. yeah And It was the game that Kelsey got knocked out of in the first half. And Marcus Morayota had a pass about in the air by Derek Johnson from about the five-year-old. And he caught it, yes, and scored, yeah which what ended up being the game-winning scorer.
01:06:30
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um I need to look that up. Was that a UFC championship games? The Titans didn't make the Super Bowl with Mariota. It had to be a division. It had to be a divisional game anyway.
01:06:43
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um So tim or a wild car yeah Tim was a little concerned that we lost the last playoff game we went to, but. Well, it's going to be hard to live up to this when you take her to a preseason game or regular season game. It's not going to feel the same. It's got to be starting at the top here. to It was a wild card round. It was a wild card round. You're right. OK. So anyway, yeah, so we're going to the AFC Championship
Cowboys' Coaching Search and Speculations
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game. I think she has it completely stamped off on it, but
01:07:19
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I threw some financial numbers at her. And ah anyway, Pete and i I had a deal kind of in the works that he was like, I'm not sure if I want to do that, which freed up. So I was like, look, hey, this is what we can do. And yeah, man, I'm going to be that worked it for sure. Well, that's where we'll be.
01:07:51
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Yeah, that's ah and what a time that'll be. That's going to be awesome. ah So to finish off here before we talk about Glazer a little bit, the Cowboys coaching search. I just want to say this. I don't know who they're going to hire. But right now, there's a lot of smoke coming from the Brian Schottenheimer thing. And if they hire Brian Schottenheimer, I'm just telling you right now, um I will not Be a happy Cowboys fan. Well, I think that'll make it easy to not care for a while. I do. I will say that. That'll make it pretty dang easy to know your fan. I know your fan, but try to put just your analytical hat on. is the Cowboys job now, a good enough job to leave one head coaching job to go to it. No, no, it's not a good job right now. That's a problem. so hold That's going to be their problem. Yeah, that's a horrible job. Yeah, that's a horrible job, but they could find somebody other than Brian Schonheimer. I think, I think more, I think Kelly Moore has got a legit shot.
01:08:56
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I think he does, too. Honestly, out of the people they've interviewed, I'd want i'd want it to be Robert Saleh. I agree with Saleh, and not with him not having a circus at quarterback and just let him deal with the defense and bring in an actual OC. I mean, even if it's a college guy, bring in somebody, just a young guy that has some, I don't know, some
01:09:21
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wildness to him instead of just this retread set. Bring the enemy up there. Let him get his good name back so that he can get a head coaching job.
01:09:33
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Because um I think the talent's there, especially if they can get a receiver. I know everybody's clamoring for running back, but you can handle that in free agency. If they can draft a legit receiver early in the first or second and draft a couple offensive linemen, the talent's there to win ballgame. I mean, I'm not saying they're Super Bowl favorites, but um health permitting, they have the talent. But that's not what makes it unattractive to coaches. What makes it unattractive to coaches is,
01:10:01
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the Arkansas Razorback sitting up in the box. I'm suggesting that maybe the organization above is part of the problem, maybe from general manager up to, own oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. So. yeah that will yeah so The problem is I don't think it's going to get any better when Steven takes over. I think Steven is as inept as ever. There's a video. So what I found funny, there's a video of, uh, it's talking about when Jerry signed Dion way back in the nineties.
01:10:34
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And it cuts to a young Steven Jones is like, you know, I'm the cap, I'm the capologist. You know, I've been the last few years I've been really learning the cap and I'm getting pretty good at it. Like it's taking you a couple of years to study it. And I was like, fast, fast forward to 2024 and we are the worst team at manipulating. that steve He still ain't figured out the cap. We got plenty of room to to spend money, but we act like we're capped out. Like, no, son, we got a lot of money, Steven. Figure it out. You're still figuring out the cap. It's been 30 years.
01:11:11
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Yeah, at least I don't know. the only The only hope I have is eventually, let's just keep it Pete, when Steven takes over the Cowboys, maybe, just maybe he gets a GM. Maybe, I'll tell you the hottest name floating around the state of Arkansas right now.
01:11:35
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hot His name floating around the state of Arkansas. They want him to hire Dion Sanders. It's still bad. and want It is. It's insane. All your talk radio around here and all that stuff is like, go get him, go get Dion and see if he's going to be any good. Well, I think that's a possibility because, look, the hourglass is running down.
01:12:03
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on jerry yeah so what you think about okay i'm being essential it so what you go ahead Does he want his lasting memory being hiring Brian Schottenheimer as the head coach? Or is he one of the last memories of, imo make i' du I'm make the splash you can make as a Dallas Cowboy? I'm going to go sign Deon said, Coach Prime is going to come coach with the Cowboys.
01:12:38
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Just saying. That's what I'm saying. That is a big possibility. I think Deon's also trying to get a little payday again from Colorado. Don't get me wrong. But I think if i think if Jerry called him tonight and said, Deon, I want you to be a head coach of the Cowboys, I'm pretty sure Deon doesn't say no. Well, I mean, I would i wouldn't think so. But I'm going to promise you that if Deon's going to be the guy that Jerry's already talked to,
01:13:06
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There's no way. for five and den i yeah Now the ah the thing with Dion is I just don't see it happening with him specifically. I thought he had a better chance of getting the Raiders job.
01:13:21
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I thought, I thought out Mark Davis was going to get, which Tom Brady being in there and their owners group probably nixed because Brady's not dumb. But I feel like even though I'm not a Brady fan, but Brady's not a dumb guy. I feel like if it was just Mark Davis making the decisions there and ah in Las Vegas, it would have been a package deal. They would have drafted.
01:13:45
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the should son and they would have they and they would have hired Dion as a package deal and that would have been the big attraction. That would have been an Al Davis sort of move. Yep. And so I really thought that was going to happen. Really, really thought that was going to happen because I don't, and I had this conversation with people. Dion has coached his, has coached his son the whole way through. He created a private school in Dallas, if I'm not mistaken.
01:14:14
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and coached his son in high school. Then he obviously went to Jackson state and then he went to Colorado. and So I don't, I mean, sure. He might coach a Colorado for a few more years. I don't think it's a law. I don't think it's a super long-term thing for him. I think he just wanted to coach his kids and I can't blame him for wanting that. But, and so and if he was going to go to the NFL, I would think it would have been a package deal. And i good I think that's fair. That's fair to, but would you rather go to Vegas or Dallas if you're be ice there's coach fun
01:14:48
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ah I'd rather good obviously as the cowboy found really go to Dallas. I think Dallas has a better baseline of talent. Yes, what I agree. um And he lives in he has his home in Dallas. He's lived in Dallas for over 20 years. I mean, obviously he doesn't now coach in Colorado, but Obviously, he's familiar with Dallas and everything that comes along with it. and But there's just no way yeah there's just no way we could we could take the cap hit to get rid of Dak and take on his kid. So i don't I don't think there's a way to make that package happen. So that's the that's what's really kept me from believing fully in the Dion stuff. Hey, I really think I think the inside track probably belongs to Kelly Moore at this point. Unfortunately, I agree with you because and not that I think more is our good coach. I just don't. I haven't seen enough from him that makes me say that he can put a staff together. The players will look at him. You know what I mean? I don't know that which I've not been. on silent So I don't know how to look at him.
01:15:51
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ah I'll say this, Cowboys fans were happy that he left. Chargers fans were happy that he left to go to Philly. And as he sits in Philly, they're very good. But what did we just talk about for 30 minutes? Their offense just slogged through our whole game. They're passing efficiency. If I remember correctly from today, it's like 28. There's no creativity with all those receivers. It's just.
01:16:18
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I don't want to say no creativity. There's not enough creativity for me to just go, wow, man, that guy's Ben Johnson. Right. You know, like, you know what I mean? So I think he's very uninspiring. Now, if Pierce is listening to this, I think him and Gunner were in that text. As soon as McCarthy got fired, somebody sent me a text and I already saw it, but I was, you know, I didn't text him yet. He said, who do you think is going to get it? And I said, well, if I had to bet on it today, it'd be Kelly Moore. Yeah.
01:16:43
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And this was literally 30 minutes after they fired McCarthy. So if I was a if I was placing a bet on it when it happened, Kelly Moore would have been the bet I would. have I think I'm going to tell you, I think if it's killing more. That is a very damning piece of evidence that your concerns are league wide concerns. Thinking how many coaches must have not shown interest or been approached and been like e to get to Kellen Moore. There's a lot. There's a lot solid. I mean, very flashy, even.
01:17:28
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ah Candidates out there right now, and if Jerry's unable to get those guys and he's got to go with all familiar.
01:17:40
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You know, and Jerry, if if he believes that, hey, we've got the talent, old familiar is what we need. You know what I mean? We don't need to to blow it up. He's liable to do that. But I think that ah that's a damning piece of evidence. If Jerry really wanted Kellen, he would have had Kellen already.
01:17:59
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I know there's still plans, you can't officially, you know what I mean? I feel like something will leaked out. Now, maybe the second the Eagles ceases over, it's announced. That could be. And that's been sitting in his back pocket for weeks. Could be that. um But it doesn't. It didn't feel that way in the beginning. Let's just put that. I say enjoy that way. You obviously disagree. You felt like it could have been that from the start.
01:18:28
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No, I feel like it was that way just because of Jerry's ineptitude, I guess, for lack of a better word. he He wants that comfortable person that he knows isn't going to buck the system and that he can control. Yeah. And who fits who fits that more than somebody who played there, coached there for the majority of his career, just like he's a Jason Garrett 2.0. Yes, that's true. Yeah, Jason here 2.0 and it's already been rumored and multiple different people for multiple different coaches that Jason Witten is going to have a spot on the staff. Witten was going to get there. they wanted That's let me tell you it been around here a lot too. And so what's what what the theory is, is that whoever gets it
01:19:15
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is basically a two or three year stopgap until they can justify giving wit in the job, just like they did with Jason Garrett over Wayne Phillips. They need somebody to coach here for a couple years to justify the guy that they want to have it. Well, we will find out.
01:19:35
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We'll find out soon. Yeah, we'll find out. Can't wait to see it, Glazer. Glazer, so you're going with this weekend, right? To Houston? I'm going this week. I just talked to Damon on the way home. I have a basketball game tomorrow night, so I can't get in to help him set up Thursday. I'm ah i'm either going to head there and and roll in about midnight Thursday night, so I can be there to help with everything Friday morning, or I'm going to wake up about 4-4.30.
01:20:00
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and get there a little before seven so I can get things rolling. ah Down there with him, I'll stay through Sunday. A couple buddies will be there and and it's always good to see those guys and see the coaches. yeah All kinds of sticks that show up to these things. Shout out to the Glacier Clinics. They're great. I really enjoy working them. We need a lot more helpers.
Benefits of Networking at Glazier Clinics
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We're going to have some QR codes and stuff up for some information to ah for people to fill out if they're interested to to come help out. It's always a great time. We put you up in a hotel, you know, we put you up in a hotel room. You can hang out and talk ball for a few days. The thing, if you're listening, if you're a coach, just listen. The thing you may not know about is your clinics.
01:20:40
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you you You buy the Glazier Vault, which is loaded with top shelf-like strategies, drills, I mean, just hundreds. and instant yeah just All kinds of stuff. All sorts of great, great, great materials from great, great, great coaches. um Small school, all the way up, large school, and and even college coaches. um And then once you've subscribed to the Vault,
01:21:08
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You can go to the clinic. It doesn't cost you the the clinics that are free with the vault subscription. So and let me tell you, you know, Pete and I have both been working since we've been coaching. um And ah man, it is a good time. It's a great time in networking. And you always been.
01:21:31
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I'm going to tell you the napkins that come out of the, uh, foyer there in Dallas and they're probably worth something, man. There's some good stuff written on a lot of napkins sitting around a lot of tables, um, late at night. Pete, if we can, I don't know if we get to do it or not, but I won't be with you in Houston. It'd be the first Texas Glazer I've best actually since I started coaching. But, uh,
01:21:58
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I'm thinking about carrying my setup with me to Dallas and seeing if we can get a couple of these guys to sit and talk ball with us while we're in Dallas. That sounds good. I'm not making it so Dallas we have our junior high district tournament Saturday morning. So I'm going to coach that tournament and then me and Mackenzie are both coming up. I think there's a there's a couple guys that are going home Saturday afternoon, so we're going to get a room.
01:22:27
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um from those two guys instead of Damon turning it back because he said he said if it wasn't coming, I might stay with you to give that room back. right But I think she's going to come help us out and we're going to we're going to show up Saturday as early as we can. We're going to have everything ready to roll. We're going to leave straight from there.
01:22:43
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And ready to see you guys, help you guys out. Hopefully get there plenty of time to help out. With those last few sessions, get everything closed down. And then Sunday, everybody kind of clears out. And so it's kind of a struggle packing everything up. So help you all pack up and just visit and stuff.
Super Bowl Predictions and Farewell
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So we definitely didn't want to miss out on going up there and seeing everybody. And if we want to carry all this stuff, I'll definitely pack it. We'll talk about it. Throw away what you need to do. Yeah, we'll talk about it. It'd be kind of fun to do that. All right, man, so we're going to let's cap off our playoff section. And next edition will be Super Bowl edition, buddy. Yeah, so I've got Bill's Eagles. You've got Cheese Eagles. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, we'll see what I want. I understand. I understand. Just like you want the Bills to get it, but I get it. I get it.
01:23:36
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All right, brother. Hey, always great talking to you um to our dozens of listeners. I hope you enjoyed this episode and we'll catch you next time on to the throws. Sounds good, man.