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Sounders FC - Whitecaps preview
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To help us get a better idea of what the Sounders should be expecting when they host the Vancouver Whitecaps, we reached out to Sam Rowan of The Third Sub, which was built from the ashes of 86 Forever. Sam explains how the Whitecaps have become one of the funnest teams to watch this year, but also shares some of their areas of struggle.
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Introduction: NOS Arietes Podcast Launch
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey, this is Christian Roldan. And Jordan Morris from the Seattle Sounders Football Club. And you're listening to NOS Arietes. This episode of NOS Arietes is sponsored by Full Pull Wines, a Seattle-based wine retailer and proud sponsor of NOS Arietes since 2011. Full Pull was founded in 2009, is based in Seattle, and is owned and operated by longtime Sounders supporters. They offer the best boutique wines of the world to members of their mailing list, with special focus on their home, the Pacific Northwest.
00:00:28
Speaker
A.O. Shen! Let's go! What a save by Fry! The Seattle Sounders have done it! MLS Cup win! Here come three years through the middle to crown it the vehicle! And now they truly can't stop the celebrations. It's the Sounders' MLS Cup! Niko Liddo leaves out!
00:01:12
Speaker
Is that what you young people call twerking?
00:01:29
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of NOS Adiatus. I am Jeremiah O
Preview: Sounders vs. Whitecaps
00:01:33
Speaker
'Shan. Joining me today to help preview the Sounders match against the Vancouver Whitecaps is Sam Rowan of the third sub. I get that right. I realized I didn't go over that we didn't go over this before he started.
00:01:48
Speaker
No, all good. Yeah, you can check us out at the third sub. And thanks for having me on the show. I really appreciate it. Yeah, always always kind of good to get the former former colleagues of the company not to be named back together. So yeah, yes, we may
Independent Canadian Soccer Media
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Speaker
as well start there. How are things going as a as an independent outlet for you guys?
00:02:08
Speaker
You know, it's fun. I mean, it's nice in the sense that you have just, you know, unrestricted freedoms. And I think also with the Canadian soccer scene developing here in Canada, it was nice to branch away from just obviously we're talking Vancouver Whitecaps, we're talking MLS today, but there's Canadian Premier League, there's League One BC, League One around the country. So yeah, creating a bit of a new platform, I think was fun to try to
00:02:36
Speaker
capture all of that as well as doing what we've done for such a long time, which is the kind of core Whitecaps coverage. So yeah, thriving and obviously super happy to see you guys doing the same down in Seattle. Yeah, absolutely. Well, so we may as well start there and get it out of the way. You guys cover, I'm guessing you have two Canadian Premier League teams that you cover. Do you only cover Vancouver FC?
00:02:58
Speaker
No, we do some, I would say it's probably more focused on Vancouver FC because, you know, writers and guys are more based here in the lower mainland than they are on the island. But, yeah, able to do some coverage of both and, yeah, making the trip on the ferry and getting out there every once in a while is a ton of fun. My colleague and friend Alex Ganiaruzek, he's doing like the quadruple this weekend. So he's going to Vancouver FC Thursday.
00:03:26
Speaker
and going to hit Pacific on the island. Then he's taking the ferry from the island down and is going to be at Caps in Seattle. And then he's taking the rain, I think, on Sunday. Wow. Exactly. So he's getting four and four. So yeah, I'm just going to be at the Vancouver FC match. So a light weekend for me, but good on Alex for that one.
Vancouver FC's Geographical Challenges
00:03:52
Speaker
So where's Vancouver FC playing?
00:03:54
Speaker
So they're playing out in Langley and I guess for those south of the border not familiar with lower mainland, greater Vancouver geography, I guess it would be akin to playing just south of Bellingham or something like that.
00:04:12
Speaker
You know, it would be 30 minutes on a good day and 55, 60 minutes on a bad day to get out there. So it's, it's not super central. That is the one thing that I think people are divided on is people that live out in the Valley where Langley is. It feels like a local community team, but for people that live in the core of Vancouver, it's kind of like, man, it's a bit of a commute out there. So that's, that's something they're grappling with as a team, but, uh, that was a great environment. I was there last weekend and it's a lot of fun. So.
00:04:42
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, while we're, I guess while we're on the subject, Defiance signed a rather, like, I guess you could say a mildly famous Canadian player, right?
Os De Rosario and Canadian Premier League Evolution
00:04:57
Speaker
Is it, it's Odaz? Is that how you say it? De Rosario?
00:05:00
Speaker
Oh, it was Os De Rosario. Yeah, sure, sure. Because I guess because of the family lineage as well, right? Right, yeah. So that obviously De Rosario is a, you know, a strong footballing name in Canadian lore. So I think that that has a bit of an impact.
00:05:17
Speaker
but he was, he had a pretty good, a couple of years ago, he was considered one of the top players in the CPL, right? He certainly, he certainly, he's got a goal scoring touch and, and he had, yeah, he had a strong season, but I also think that the league looks a lot different in year six than it did in year two and three. And so I think that, uh,
00:05:37
Speaker
Yeah, that probably has something to do with it. And, you know, it's interesting, the Canadian Premier League, I think, wants to be seen as at the same level or above certain US next pro competition, but it's not necessarily there yet. I mean, we saw someone like more Farsi go from a CPL side to then Columbus Crew next pro.
00:06:01
Speaker
And now obviously he's worked into the first team and done a tremendous job. But, um, yeah, it still seems like today in Premier League often leads to U.S.L. or next pro before guys can just make the jump straight to MLS.
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah.
Whitecaps' Season Start and Optimism
00:06:16
Speaker
Well, let's get into the whitecaps a little bit. The main reason we're doing this. The whitecaps are off to an amazing start. I guess on points per game, are they still leading the West or are they falling behind the Galaxy on points and points per game?
00:06:32
Speaker
Well, certainly on, certainly on points that are behind the galaxy now and actually have to double check on, on points per game. But I think that's the, that's the starting point, right? Is that things were going really well. And last weekend was a test of the two best in foreign teams in the West and Brian white scores, um, to tie things up, you know, just over fifth, around 15 minutes left to play. And at that point inside the stadium, it felt like.
00:06:59
Speaker
only the home side was going to go on and win the match. There really was that feeling. And I think that almost in that moment, the Whitecaps players got a little bit confident. They started to spread out. They left those spaces. And Ricky Puig obviously can play those picture perfect balls. Joseph Panthel, you know, can stretch with pace and the Whitecaps got caught out on the counter twice.
00:07:26
Speaker
next thing you know you know five six minutes after that that time goal they're down three one and I think that's left what has been yes it's been a very good start but that's left a bit of a sour taste in supporters mouths here because I think you look at some of the results and you go okay you smash Toronto probably can't really take much out of that match
00:07:48
Speaker
They almost blew a lead against Portland in a match they really should have dealt with. They drew Charlotte. They lost to RSL, again, allowing late goals, kind of like the LA Galaxy match. And they picked up two gritty road wins, but they're against FC Dallas and San Jose, who, as we've seen, they're not particularly strong teams in the West. I mean, FC Dallas, I think,
00:08:12
Speaker
people thought would be a lot better. And even San Jose, you could have made a case at the start of the year for like maybe a fringe playoff team, but they've obviously struggled. So while I, there was a very, you know, everyone's happy that the whitecaps are off to a strong start because usually they get off to slow starts. I do think there's like a measured cautious approach to how they perform so far based on all those background factors. Sure. Sure. And, uh,
00:08:39
Speaker
You know, is there, so is it, does it feel like this is a, a breakthrough season for the Whitecaps in the offing or is there still, is there still a lot of nervousness, would you say?
Whitecaps' Ambitions and Peak Performance
00:08:53
Speaker
Well, okay, so we could talk about kind of like organizationally where they're at. And I think in that sense, it is, we've been talking about it on the site since like probably early last year, that these are the push the chips into the middle of the table years, because you have Rheinwald and Brian White in those late 20s, you know, even like Alessandro Schaff, they brought in Sam Atakubi, these are all crime age players. This is not a bunch of 21 and 22 year olds.
00:09:21
Speaker
where there's Ali Ahmed, there's Pedro Vite, you're always going to have those younger guys. But the core of the squad is between 25 and 32. So these are the years to go for it. And so I think there's a lot of positivity around the team, but there's a little bit of that angst as well that it's like, man, these are the years to contend. So the standard and the bar is set high. It's not just about
00:09:48
Speaker
and we make the playoffs and oh gee hopefully we can win a playoff round. I think the the ambitions both within the club and and from supporters are have grown to be a little bit higher than that and so I think that's where I'm talking about the first the first seven games and they're second in the west and yet there's still a lot of questions. I think it's just because they're being they're holding themselves and supporters are holding them to that high standard and that's just kind of based on the
00:10:15
Speaker
the phase of the cycle that the organization is in at the moment. Sure. And I guess another positive sign though, and this doesn't necessarily apply this week, but the attendance at Whitecaps games is much better
Rising Attendance and Factors Influencing It
00:10:30
Speaker
than it has. I mean, this is, this is, I would think trending toward a, uh, not only a record attendance year, but by a significant margin. If I'm, if I'm under, if I'm looking at these numbers correctly,
00:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, it really it's been a dramatic spike. I mean, we were talking in the things were things were trending towards this kind of look.
00:10:53
Speaker
And then obviously when that happened, it derailed everything, especially because of how stringent things were in Canada and the fact that whitecaps were away for way longer than most teams. It just tanked the interest in the club. And I also think that the ticket prices were quite high prior to COVID and kind of back in that era.
00:11:13
Speaker
Now I think the combination of both lower ticket prices and just like more available for resale so you can get into the building a lot easier on match day if you want. And then also you know there is the undoubtable messy effect and he's going to be in Vancouver on May 25th so I think a lot of people purchased either like
00:11:35
Speaker
four or five game packs or half season ticket for season tickets, just in anticipation of attending that match. And then also the fact that, you know, last season was probably the best, most interesting at least season for the Whitecaps in recent memory.
00:11:51
Speaker
You know, they ended up finishing sixth in the West and they get bounced by LFC. But, but I feel like for a good portion of last year, they were, they were flirting with those, you know, kind of top, top four spots. And I think that, that created some interest and excitement and they scored a ton of goals. They couldn't, but they filled the net. Right. And I was going to say that the thing that seems to be, at least from a, like,
00:12:17
Speaker
The Whitecaps have never been a team that I get the sense that neutrals are interested in. But right now, it feels like they are one of those teams that people want to watch that, you know, it's that people are paying attention because they're fun.
Tactical Analysis of Whitecaps Under Vanny Sartini
00:12:30
Speaker
They're you know, it's not just it's not just that they're scoring goals. It's that they've got interesting players and they've got a very interesting coach as well. Vanny Sartini is
00:12:39
Speaker
It seems like every other week he's dropping some kind of quote that is, you know, interesting at the very least.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think both in terms of personality, in terms of tactics, Vanny has brought that, right? Because he's, he's both as a person and as a manager, I think very like unrelenting and uncompromising in his principles. So that goes for off the pitch, you know, and we saw the chaos last year in the playoffs. But then also in terms of his tactics, like he is absolutely resolute about this is a zonal marking team and
00:13:16
Speaker
you know, they're, they're not going to stray away from that. They're not going to let any doubt creep in. You know, he plays, it's, it's a three, four, three system defensively. And it is a true back three. Like it's not a, it's not a tuck, tuck an extra, you know, wide player in at the back. It's not a, you know, all back into a five. It is a true back three. And those, those wide center backs are asked to do a lot.
00:13:42
Speaker
And yeah, I think it's just, you know, his, his tactics, his personality is obviously, I think added to that interest significantly. And it's a big part of the reason why they were able to score so many goals last season. Now, I would say for those down Seattle that, you know, maybe only caught
00:13:59
Speaker
a match or a glimpse of what the Whitecaps have been up to this season, I would say that they have taken that like guns blazing, outscore your opponent's approach. They've taken that a few steps back this year because I think they looked at themselves and realized
00:14:15
Speaker
This is fun, but this is not a sustainable way to go deep in the playoffs or to win games consistently because last season was characterized by throwing away points from scenarios where they really should have created more. And so they've tried at least to be a little bit more tactical and clinical and knowing when to sit in a mid block, knowing when to shut the game down. And I talked about them blowing a couple of leads, but I think on the whole,
00:14:44
Speaker
this has been an improved defensive unit this season. That's been one of the early storylines. And just in terms of like performance, even if there've been a couple of late game let downs, it's last season, it was like every time there was a cross or a set piece, you felt like they were going to concede. And that's not been the case this season. It's been a much more confident unit. It's actually been on the offensive side of the ball where white and gold have taken a little bit of time to get going.
00:15:12
Speaker
Demir Krylak hasn't worked fantastically when he's been integrated up front, so that's actually the area where it's been a bit more of a mixed bag, but Vancouver still has that element where they can score in bunches when the timing's right, when they kind of get out and transition. They can still be very fun to watch, but they're not doing that from minute one to minute 90 anymore. It's a little more measured.
Brian White's Performance Evaluation
00:15:43
Speaker
So two of the players, obviously, that are driving this team, that are getting the most interest, that are, you know, the players around that are most often credited with the success they've had, or Ryan Gold and Brian White, sort of a dynamic duo of sorts.
00:16:01
Speaker
I guess they're not necessarily off to blazing starts this year, you know, but Brian White, you know, last, maybe last week was a, I don't know, was it a fair example? It seemed like he had probably four good looks. He scored one, but it's one of those things where on one hand you want him getting into these positions as much as possible, but on the other, I'm guessing you'd like him to finish a few more.
00:16:23
Speaker
Yeah, certainly. Certainly last weekend that was the that was the complaint and I'm in. Thanks Brian was the first to admit it post match that. He certainly had the opportunity to change the feeling and the way that match went if he had found a goal in the first half. I mean, he had a great opportunity at his feet and they had a basically a preheader, you know, right at the top of the six and and couldn't find the frame. And so you know those moments again when the Whitecaps are playing a little more.
00:16:53
Speaker
pragmatically, and they're not just like volume shooting, well, then there's an increased emphasis on finishing those chances when you get done. And the Whitecaps, I think, going into the LA Galaxy match, they were first in the league in terms of conversion rate. So they had been doing that up until that point in the season. They're actually, last season was very much like, we're going to have eight great chances, but we're only going to score one goal. That was the frustration. This year they haven't, the nation has been,
00:17:21
Speaker
lower event, but higher quality when they've created those chances. And this is the first match where they kind of looked a bit like the 2023 version where they played really well on the ball at times. But yeah, couldn't couldn't find a way to finish. So you know, Brian likes one of those guys that I think it does take a little bit of time for him to find a shooting boots and
00:17:46
Speaker
once he starts to find the net in a regular basis, things sort of pick up. So this is a frustration with White from time to time, but he manages to put out a great goal scoring rate over the course of the season. So I think it's one of those things you just, you know, you might get frustrated with in the moment, but you're overall, you're going to look back on the season and be pretty satisfied with its performance, I think.
00:18:07
Speaker
So one of the, a player who I imagine most people don't think of immediately as key to the white cap success. I'm, you know, I'm sitting here looking at their scoring leaders, Fafa Pico, tied with Brian white in both goals and assists. He's a, he's on five goals, plus three goals, two assists. What's he been, how important has he been and what's his situation like right now?
Fafa Picault's Role and Injury Impact
00:18:32
Speaker
Yeah, so unfortunately for Fafa, he had to come off against the LA Galaxy with some back spasms and he's not back to training this week. So I would not expect him to play this weekend and I think he will be ruled out. And so what that means for Vancouver and what it's meant for Vancouver this season is
00:18:52
Speaker
They brought in really two veteran additions to mix in the front three, Baffa Pico and Demir Krylak, as I mentioned. The problem when Demir Krylak plays is that with gold sitting underneath whoever those two forwards
00:19:10
Speaker
I can wait between them, don't have any pace. And so they don't stretch back lines. They don't, they're not a threat to running behind. You know, center backs can really just play them straight up, deny them, hold up play and that's kind of it.
00:19:26
Speaker
And so what Fafo has been able to do when he comes in is the exact opposite of that, which is be a real danger. Um, and, and also something that I think it's been really impressive about Pico so far is that, you know, he's not just a threat run at you one V one or run behind.
00:19:42
Speaker
He's chipped in with assists, like they've been high quality assists, really good balls into the box. His goals have been like really tidy finishes and not necessarily easy ones either, not all back post happens. And so, you know, he's showed kind of a complete forward toolbox, which is really valuable to Vancouver, just to give white and gold that a little bit more space, because at the end of last year,
00:20:10
Speaker
And I think LAFC was perhaps better than anyone at keying in on this.
00:20:15
Speaker
They only played with two up front. So it was really just white and gold on their own. And what other teams would do is they would just take their two center backs. They would bracket Brian White, deny him, hold up, just harass him physically. And then you didn't get that golden white magic the way you were early in the season. So Vanny decided we're going to go with three forwards to try to counteract what teams were doing.
00:20:42
Speaker
But with Krylak, they just ran into the exact same problem. So Fafa has been able to come in and provide that solution. I mean, the Whitecaps had Sergio Cordova for part of last season. I think he was supposed to play that Fafa Pico role to maybe stretch teams, give them a different attacking weapon to worry about. That didn't work out. But now they went the veteran route. And yeah, he's been working so far. And he'll certainly be missed this weekend. So I think that's something where
00:21:09
Speaker
It'll be interesting to see what the Whitecaps lineup is. Do they go back to Krylak? Do they mix a younger player in there? Or do they just change the formation to make do with who they have up front?
Whitecaps' Three-at-the-Back Formation
00:21:22
Speaker
So one of the things you said earlier, I wanted to come back to because it's kind of an interesting idea to me. You said that Vancouver really plays three in the back. It's not a five slash three. It's really a three with
00:21:37
Speaker
So what are the are they are they really playing without wing backs and what is so what is the role of those sort of wide midfielders?
00:21:45
Speaker
So I think the joke, the couple of jokes I guess in Vancouver is that first of all, like Veyi Sartini has no time for out and out wingers. Like your traditional, you know, bunch of step overs and take on a guy 1v1, like that's 433 wingers, that's not his jam. Okay. And then also he turns almost without fail, like every
00:22:09
Speaker
midfield or a guy that maybe was a number 10 and is transitioning into a number eight, everyone gets tried out at wingback at one point. So we have Alessandro Schatz, who was like a Bundesliga midfielder, used to play as a number 10. He's been playing at wingback, like in air quotes, wingback, but really, it's a midfield role, right?
00:22:30
Speaker
he's tucking inside or, okay, he comes back and he supports wide defensively, maybe picks up the ball in wide areas, but he's not doing like your Alfonso Davies wingback type things. It's a very different role. I mean, same thing when healthy Sam Attakouby on the other side, you know, it's more of like a fullback slash midfielder. The Whitecaps in general are just very, very narrow in terms of their buildup.
00:22:59
Speaker
So, and Vanny just seems to favor those players. So, yeah, there's a lot asked of, I mean, it's been mostly Matthias Laborda and Tristan Blackman this season and those wide center back roles. I feel like that's easily the most demanding position on the pitch in this Vancouver Whitecaps formation because you're asked to
00:23:20
Speaker
you know, whether it's Denny Belonga or Pantsil or Peck last weekend, you're asked to defend those guys 1v1 on regular occasion as a center back, um, and handle that. And then also be good on the ball in terms of distribution and starting, you know, phase of possession. So it's, it's incredibly demanding. And yeah, I would describe those, those wide players in the four for Vancouver as more, uh,
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, there are really more midfielders that try to tuck inside. And sometimes it can look like a diamond in the midfield. Sometimes it gets flat. Sometimes you have either gold or pico dropping deep. It's really quite fluid in that sense. But no matter what, those three are kind of on their own at the back with some support to try to protect. Their job is to protect the box and hold things down centrally. And they've done a pretty good job so far this season.
00:24:17
Speaker
So broadly speaking, how would you say what's the outlook for the Whitecaps coming
Breaking the Seattle Winless Streak
00:24:23
Speaker
into this game? Are they confident? I know Seattle is not necessarily someplace. They've had a lot of recent success. What was it like 2016 was the last time the Whitecaps? It's been almost so long. It's not worth counting at this point. I think there's
00:24:42
Speaker
I guess there's two schools of thought going on, right? There's like, man, if there's a time to try to get Seattle, it's now. That would be the one thought. And then the other thought is, man, we haven't gone in there and secured a victory in a really long time. And the Whitecaps probably don't love that.
00:25:02
Speaker
I mean, this is the best form that Seattle has been in all season so far, right? At least you're undefeated when you're asked to. Yeah, you know, but yes, low bar, but nonetheless, things at least are on a slight upward trend. So, you know, I think the goal still is to go in and get points of some variety. It's not necessarily an expectation that we're going to go in there and take all three, but I think
00:25:30
Speaker
Really in any match of the season, the right caps do rate themselves to compete right near the top of the table. They certainly have that self-belief, so I think there's no reason that they can't go in and get a result. Obviously, missing Pico is a bit of a downer, but I think especially if you're trying to play
00:25:50
Speaker
a tight, you know, 1-1 type match, maybe that that's not the end of the world. And I think for from like a pure mashup perspective, the fact that Seattle's been able to and I mean, you can correct me if you you think slightly differently, because I've always seen some of Seattle this season, but my sense is that
00:26:09
Speaker
They're able to create a lot of good possession around the box, but actually getting like those crucial chances and then finishing them has been a problem. And this, this seems like something that spans back to last year as well. Right. Oh, to me, that's music to the whitecaps ears. Cause they've done a pretty good job of, okay, you can have some possession around the box, but we're not going to allow those deadly chances. And because Seattle doesn't seem like a team that's going to like really punish you on the counter in those transition moments.
00:26:39
Speaker
I feel like stylistically that's a good matchup for Vancouver, but we also saw Leo Chu. He does have that ability to terrorize and had some brilliant moments against Vancouver in recent years. So I think that's a player they'll really focus their efforts on trying to shut down if he plays.
00:26:57
Speaker
Yeah, I would say that's an accurate read on the Sounders.
Celebrating 50 Years of Rivalry and Soccer Culture
00:27:02
Speaker
So finally, this is the 50th, or at least the Sounders and Whitecaps are both celebrating their 50th anniversaries this year. They obviously have a lot of shared history that goes across multiple leagues and obviously shared in the Cascadia Cup and everything else. But how is the 50th anniversary being treated in Vancouver?
00:27:26
Speaker
Oh, that's a, that's a good question. I mean, I think it's a, I think it's a good opportunity for, you know, certainly newer fans to embrace and understand the history of the club because realistically, how many people that were part of the club or involved with the club or supported the club 50 years ago are still going to matches now. The, the list is small.
00:27:53
Speaker
And even, you know, back to 25, 30 years ago, it was, it was, you know, more of a niche thing than it is now. So I think for those, those newer fans, those who have joined since MLS, it's a good opportunity to maybe learn a bit about the club's history. Hey, I never knew that that's cool. And then for those that have been around for a long time, it's an opportunity to kind of reminisce and celebrate some of that. And, uh,
00:28:20
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think the, I think the Whitecaps have always been pretty decent at like promoting the, the history and the, you know, the culture of the club. And it is really, you know, soccer in Vancouver is like a
00:28:35
Speaker
a small part of the sports culture, but I think those that have been invested in it for a long time are really passionate about it and feel very strongly about it. So I think it's a really good moment for, yeah, for those people. And then again, just for like the wider supporters group or someone who shows up to a random match, it's just like a reminder that this isn't a brand new expansion side. This is a club with
00:29:02
Speaker
with long history, even if it's not all MLS history. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I think like, I mean, you, they still celebrate the 86ers era. They still sell. I mean, obviously the whitecaps were, were in the U S L. Uh, it's a very, I mean, it just, I, I think it's, it's worth remembering that these two teams have a lot of shared history and, uh,
00:29:23
Speaker
and came into existence essentially together. Sam, thank you so much for joining us.
Where to Find More Canadian Soccer Content
00:29:30
Speaker
This has been great. Good catching up with you. Where can people read you and let us know what's going on?
00:29:37
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, if you're interested in any Whitecaps content, the thirdsub.ca would be the first place to go. You can always just search us up on social, you know, be it Twitter slash X or Instagram or anything like that. We're not too difficult to find. And yeah, pre-post-match coverage. If you want to tuck into some Canadian Premier League or other Canadian soccer content, we have that as well. So, Jeremiah, appreciate you having me on and looking forward to the match this weekend.
00:30:06
Speaker
Absolutely. All right. With that, I'll bid you adieu. I'm Jeremiah Sheehan. This is No Study at This, and we will catch you next time.
00:30:48
Speaker
We love you. Let's win another one!